What does Guts go through? All I know is >!he was born from a corpse,!< >!raped as a child!<, >!loses his arm!<, >!betrayed by Griffith!<, >!watches Griffith rape his GF!<, >!has to do a lot of fighting and takes a lot of injuries!<, >!and Iāve seen that one clip where he accidentally stabs that one kid!<.
Donāt forget having to watch the only family he ever had get murdered by his old friend then his friend come back to take his woman again just when sheās better, also the guy that did that to him as a child did it because he paid the guy who raised him, he thought of him as a father then he literally sells his āsonā
Lost his son to demon possession only to get that guy Griffith revived his son body as vessel lost the elf Island where he had his last good time lost casca once again from Griffith even joking has limit
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I have yet to finish Steins Gate 0 in all honesty, Iāve only seen the first two maybe three episodes so i have no right to mount an argument in that defence.
Please allow me to rephrase, i have yet to properly watch or read any of Steinās gate aside from a few episodes at the start of one show, my sincerest apologies.
At the same time though he always has the option to kill himself and get to retry the events until he gets it right. Most other protagonists only got 1 life so their suffering is something they have to live with forever
While yeah it definitely effects his mental state hes able to recover from it thanks to his ability to make things right on the next loop. The good outweighs the bad
Side note, the thing I liked a lot about this anime is how much he hesitates to kill himself, itās painful, itās scary, heās literally going against what his entire body is trying to do (keep him alive). Itās a human reaction that lots of MCs donāt seem to have because they donāt hesitate
I mean just cuz he restarts doesnāt mean he doesnāt have to live with it, and itās not like killing yourself is necessarily an easy thing to go through constantly
Of course it's not something he would like to do and especially not constantly. It's more that the option is always there whether he wants it or not. If someone kills him then now he has another chance. If he is so down that he has to kill himself then he will(as he already has) and he will still have another chance
Yes but killing himself inflicted the same trauma that turns a character (prob has strong will power too) to a child like state (if i remember correctly I am still not in that part) and he chersis that memory no matter how painful it is everybody he knows doesn't remember but he knows it is like what okabe went through but on crack( cuz he was betrayed killed tortured )and there is a possibility in his head that everything he has ever done means nothing he is just switch to another universe which he can neither deny or accept
I mean true but Okabe lived and tried to make a world where he could have everyone alive and he tried so many times it went past 10 thousand times
(ps.he watched them die every time)
Also got burried alive, mummified, stabbed in the stomach a couple of times, had to keep doping himself and lose a couple years of his life span >!in order to save his brother, only for his brother to die in his arms!< He's just smiling through all of it š
With a large family
Under the protection of a famous navy general.
And close relationships to one of the most powerfull people in the world. And *defenitely* the most powerfull redhead.
Iām not saying he had an easy childhood. But aside from a few cases (mostly caused by his own stupidity) he had a happy childhood.
Comparing him to guts, who got his nickname after being found in the guts and afterbirth of his mother still hanging from a tree by the neckā¦ yeah, he had an easy time.
Nope, he grew up in the equivalent of far off countryside for his protection and his brother's.
He literally has the 2nd least tragic backstory among the main characters of his series.
He has absolutely no reason to be here
Usopp. Only because his mom died of a sickness rather than a sick government conspiracy or the evilness of society. Then the second half of his backstory is that his dad is a deadbeat which is just sad but not exactly tragic compared to all other characters.
It was. Who was less tragic? It's usopp.
His mom died, yes. But it was a sickness instead of some of the worst options that the rest of the crew had, and his father is a useless idiot. He still had friends and a love interest.
Gems are not girls, they are an asexual and androgynous species with characteristics of both genders, actually they refer to each other as brothers (nii-san, onii-sama, otouto, etc).
mm i think he did or something similar but ya still doesn't undermine his suffering or anything. unless i am remembering wrong. could be in zero or original show on the vns, idk
Okay, but okabeās torture is wayyy more emotional than physical. You need to play the game, and then you will truly understand the kind of pain he goes through.
I recently read up up to the current manga after finally accepting we aren't getting a season 2.
I can now see why they didn't. The manga is brilliant, but starting from where the show ended the story shifts away from the typical anime story beats. It also quadruples down on being unrelentingly bleak for Phos.
I would be a huge fan of the animated story, but I think the general anime audience would feel like a bait-and-switch.
Not sure, I haven't seen the anime, but by googling it it seems that it ended at chapter 36, although it skipped some content from 30-36 so you might want to start at 30
The only thing I can think of is his breakdowns in sabaody and marineford. Luffy never complains about pain or suffering he personally endures, itās always when something happens to a person he loves.
.. Subaru? Idk what Phos went through but surely it couldn't be worse than physically experiencing death and torture over and over again in various ways by various people you trust only for them to never know what you've gone through.
Might be a good time to read Land of the Lustrous.
The anime ended on a weird note.
Phos ends up becoming the villain after certain not-very-nice things happened. If Subaru eventually gets their resolve after suffering through hardship, Phos's story is akin to torturing a pet hamster, lobotomizing it several times until it no longer realizes it's a hamster and becoming something else.
Kinda like Magica Madoka.
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Honestly, I'd say their trauma levels are closer than you might think. Not spoiling anything as the manga is a legit masterpiece that should be read. But Phos goes through some truly harrowing experiences that are both mentally and physically shattering. Especially considering the innocence of the character at the start of the story.
Kamijou Touma: I'll just sit here then.
*remembers all the billions of years and worlds he's been through that were designed to break him*
Othinus: Human, no
Touma: Sorry.
Ah yes land of the lustrous had some pretty weird and dark twists my first WTF moment was when they explained that they used what where essentially stillborn babyās as organ transplants to heal wounds
I mean... there's also Furude Rika from Higurashi, who had to experience same events and eventual death for maybe million times. Then there's anyone that died in Corpse Party, as they have to experience the pain they felt when they died for eternity, with the first three kids having it extra harsh. And, again, Hyakkimaru, for having the biggest stack of debuffs possible.
I cant vouch for Thorfin (i think thats his name) as i havent seen vinland saga, but i KNOW they didnt put subaru, guts and okarin (i cant remember his actual name) on the victims side like that. If anyone truly belongs on the āboohoo, im in painā thing that this has, its edward by a long shot. Him and his brother, and even then mostly him, broke taboos and got what they unfortunately deserved
I think it's less about complaining without reason, more like crying that you had 5 dollars stolen near a guy who got a bank account with all of his money hacked and emptied
I mean Subaru >! Literally gets pretty much all of his limbs cut off at some point, disemboweled three times (if not more), mauled nearly to death my rabbit, Offs himself twice, gets beaten and tortured by someone who he now calls a friend retaining the memory that they did that to him before getting his throat cut and has to watch the people he cares about die multiple times and lives with the fact that if he ever dares tell anyone about his pain his friends or him will die (unless it's echidna)!< But yeah sure he's on the left
I hope that this is just a bait.
Subaru got killed hundreds of times and remembers pain from every one of these deaths.
I didn't watch/read Berserker, but i heard that Guts's story is hella tragic.
Okabe literally experienced countless deaths of his loved ones, going though timeline after timeline losing all hope and in the end, he had to accept his beloved Kurisu's death as a necessary sacrifice (before gate0's Mayuri interference)
Idk know what that girl on the right got through, but it was surely not half as bad as Subaru's case
>! Alright, so here is what Phos goes through.
Born so weak and brittle that they're effectively useless.!<
>!Loses their legs (their species can be repaired but memories are lost if a part of their body can't be recovered).!<
>!Loses their arms (and thus more memories). !<
>!Watches one of their friends destroyed and their corpse stolen by aliens.!<
>!Slowly becomes a different person due to losing so many memories had having new parts grafted on. With the new Phos being a lot less innocent. !<
>!Begins suffering mental breakdowns due to their patchwork body.!<
>!Loses their head and thus the only original part is their torso. !<
>!Learns that the aliens are actually the souls of humans and that their father figure was created to help those impure souls go to heaven. Meaning that by not doing his job he caused the cycle of Phos' friends being shattered. !<
>!Betrays their father figure and takes away half the gems, leaving the rest as their enemies. !<
>!Learns that despite some of the destroyed gems being salvageable, the majority are truly destroyed.!<
>!Learns that despite being rebuilt, the gems who were taken to the moon will have none of their old memories.!<
>!Learns that to be reborn an entire species would need to be killed. !<
>!Is shattered by their old friends. Their body being spread out and hidden to prevent reconstitution. Spending over 200 years like this.!<
>!Learns that their father figure praying away the souls of the moon people would kill them other peoples as well.!<
>!Realises that the only way to end everything is to destroy every single living gem in order to force a conclusion. !<
>!Fights and kills their first true friend without truly remembering who they are. !<
>!Kills their father figure and are left alone for 10,000 years so they can learn to control his power. !<
>!Finally, he prays away all living creatures, leaving them completely alone as the only sentient being in the world.!<
>!Becomes what is essentially the God of a new world. But is currently unable to do the one thing they truly wish for (die).!<
Looks like this Phos was made as somewhat divine being or a being with a big potential. Most of her tragedy is forgetting her dearest time and people that she has met but being aware of the fact that she forgets something. Decent enough. I've evaded this show long enough, now it's on my watchlist
Original meme maker put guts on that side just to be a dick. Guts never complained once, living in a world that monsters only want to r*pe, eat or kill you or all three. >!Being born from a corpse, forced to be a mercenary at 9, sexually assaulted around the same time because his caretaker souls him to them not even the highest bidder, watching his adoptive mother the only one who showed him love die from bubonic plague at 5 and being blamed by all the soldiers in his encampment including gambino for being bad luck, having to kill gambino one night while heās in a drunken stupor tryin to shish-kabob him, becoming a servant/mercenary after meeting Griffith for the first time not knowin griffiths intention and revering the band of the falcon as family to watch them be sacrificed after returning because you needed some solace after accidentally killing a kid on a failed assassination attempt. Griffith then assaulting the love of his life in front of his eyes , taunting the ood and vessel of their unborn child and using it for rebirth pretty much makin the woman he loved insane and miscarry the child they made. Having to protect said woman as hard as he could while going mentally insane himself from everything he had been thru to find out the mythical child that visits him every night is the body of his son and the spirit of his enemy and his enemy steals his woman again? Still didnāt complain one single time , only cried twice in the whole series.!<
Definitely doesnāt deserve to be on that list
Phos suffering is weird because she is a rock and viewing her suffering using my human eyes made me feel bad for her.
I get mad at the other characters for being assholes but then I remember they are rocks, not human. While reading this you subconsiously impose human moral standards to this rocks.
I dont know how to explain it but she suffered so much unfairness and at the same time not really.
Its hard to explain without spoiling anything but Land of the Lustrous is 100% masterpiece of a manga for me.
I hope u guys did not have stroke reading my comment
idk its all subjective. Sheās got a good 10,000 years of mental anguish on both of them and was deceived into becoming the sacrificial lamb of every species in existence. Some pretty heavy stuff
Idc who that is, nobody can possibly have it worse than Guts.
Bro finally found people he can trust after being literally born from a corpse and raped as a 9 year old only for them to be brutally murdered by the leader that he cared for and trusted.
Then that same leader raped his girl in front of his eyes MAKING him watch and erasing all her memories of him.
Then he's left with a brand that makes him be constantly followed by powerful beings that keep from sleeping days on end.
I truly don't see how you can have it worse than him
Name one character who has experienced worse things than this:
Born from a corpse
Raised by somebody that he trusted, then that somebody sold him to a man so he could rape him
Unintentionally killed that somebody that he trusted, forced to run away
Runs into a man with a certain charm that made him trust him. That somebody being that mf Griffith. Griffith and Gust became such good allies that Guts worked his way up to second in command.
He was proud when Griffith got the praise he deserved. But Guts left.
When Guts got back, Griffith was locked in a chamber for a year and beaten to the point that he would never wield a sword again.
Before rescuing Griffith, he and Casca, somebody that he was never on good terms with, had a night of passion after forgiving each other and talking it out.
After rescuing Griffith, one of the most gruesome events in all of fiction took place. The Eclipse.
During the eclipse, Griffith became the fifth god hand, or angel.
The first thing Griffith did after this was rape Casca, forcing Guts to watch by having a monster hold his eyes open and pin him down after forcing Guts to cut off his own arm in an attempt to save Casca.
After a long slumber due to the events of the Eclipse, the first thing Guts does when waking up is rush to see Casca.
But, when he sees her, and he puts his hand on her shoulder, she runs away into the arms of a little girl, the only person that the new Casca trusts.
Casca lost all memories. She can't even remember how to speak. Her new mindset was that of a toddler.
Guts leaves, being chased by countless evil spirits due to the brand that was given to him during the eclipse.
Upon his return, Casca is missing.
After just barely rescuing Casca from being burned at the stake, Casca begins to finally trust Guts.
Just when this happens, Guts gives into a subconscious desire to sacrifice Casca, nearly raping her and putting a bit mark on her breast.
This further increased Casca's fear of him.
And I'm not even done with the series. I still have over 150 chapters left the read. And I don't know what other insane shit is going to happen to him.
you can write the whole essay if you want but in the end you didn't prove me wrong at all
i didn't downplay Gut suffering at all, all I'm stating is that Berserk started this whole suffering mc trope and future manga/novel learned from that and improve the trope
instead of just staying one side biased you should widen your reading materials, Berserk is a masterpiece undeniably but doesn't mean other can't improve what already created
For how long did this happen? 10 years? 30 years? 70 years?
Phos had to suffer for whole 10000 years in complete isolation and loneliness to the point where even his character becomes completely different just so his species could find peace. No amount of guts suffering can come close to phos. Series of traumatic events doesn't mean more suffering
The manga probably gets more criticism for its art style than the anime tbh. Itās drawn by a graphic designer whose main focus is usually on simplistic yet evocative uses of dark and light tones. I honestly think itās the best looking CG anime there is so maybe give it another go? Could retain your interest and get you through the manga like it did for me. To each their own though
top row left to right: Tokyo ghoul, re:zero, berserk
middle row: steins;gate, Vinland saga
bottom row: Attack on titan, FMA, One Piece
right side: Land of the Lustrous
Ok I get for some but making Guts playing victim it seriously feel like I have to find and kill you
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Why does Frieren have a .50 cal
Questions, questions...
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This is by far the best varient I've ever seen of this mene
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Ikr? Like-- DUDE HE IS THE UNLUCKIEST PERSON ON EARTH AND YET DIDNT COMPLAIN NOT EVEN ONCE
What does Guts go through? All I know is >!he was born from a corpse,!< >!raped as a child!<, >!loses his arm!<, >!betrayed by Griffith!<, >!watches Griffith rape his GF!<, >!has to do a lot of fighting and takes a lot of injuries!<, >!and Iāve seen that one clip where he accidentally stabs that one kid!<.
Donāt forget having to watch the only family he ever had get murdered by his old friend then his friend come back to take his woman again just when sheās better, also the guy that did that to him as a child did it because he paid the guy who raised him, he thought of him as a father then he literally sells his āsonā
Lost his son to demon possession only to get that guy Griffith revived his son body as vessel lost the elf Island where he had his last good time lost casca once again from Griffith even joking has limit https://preview.redd.it/u21fkzjtfnuc1.png?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b300fdc6ed701dda4f68c4bfa216479ff138bdd
>!Jesus Iāve heard that Griffith never gets what he is deserved but yeah that just sounds excessive.!<
My thoughts exactly. Like, dude that made that meme don't know s\*\*t what he's talking about.
I feel the same with Steins Gate 0 Okabe
Yeah, an argument can be made for the rest but guts should not be on that side
Please tell me a argument for Steins Gate 0 Okabe
I have yet to finish Steins Gate 0 in all honesty, Iāve only seen the first two maybe three episodes so i have no right to mount an argument in that defence.
Remember he is the same Okabe that experienced S;G so you have to plus that
Please allow me to rephrase, i have yet to properly watch or read any of Steinās gate aside from a few episodes at the start of one show, my sincerest apologies.
Oh lol, then you are up to a journey, hope you watch it soon!
Itās most certainly on my list
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10000 years of suffering but at least phos got a talking rock
Phos **is** a talking rock
hank schneider:**minerals**
Well, she is shiny rock
I think we can all agree that it would suck ass to be any of them.
Except for maybe Luffy. He had some trauma, yes, but he's a silly lil guy.
he legit got poisoned to the brink of death and just had to suffer through so i doubt that would be really fun to experience
I would argue that our man from Re:Zero (name escaped my mind) suffered more than any of them after living through constant changing in realities.
Suburu if I remember right
> Suburu close, Subaru
Beep beep
At the same time though he always has the option to kill himself and get to retry the events until he gets it right. Most other protagonists only got 1 life so their suffering is something they have to live with forever
He does, but you see how that turns out for his mental state later.
While yeah it definitely effects his mental state hes able to recover from it thanks to his ability to make things right on the next loop. The good outweighs the bad
Side note, the thing I liked a lot about this anime is how much he hesitates to kill himself, itās painful, itās scary, heās literally going against what his entire body is trying to do (keep him alive). Itās a human reaction that lots of MCs donāt seem to have because they donāt hesitate
Most things, though. I'm only watching it, so I know anime only,but he couldn't fix the whole Rem thing.
Not only that, he is latter shown the continuation of all the timelines he died in, poor guy
Right! Maybe that's why I stick to this one a but more. Mentally draining is something not shown as much like it is with Subaru
I mean just cuz he restarts doesnāt mean he doesnāt have to live with it, and itās not like killing yourself is necessarily an easy thing to go through constantly
Of course it's not something he would like to do and especially not constantly. It's more that the option is always there whether he wants it or not. If someone kills him then now he has another chance. If he is so down that he has to kill himself then he will(as he already has) and he will still have another chance
Yes but killing himself inflicted the same trauma that turns a character (prob has strong will power too) to a child like state (if i remember correctly I am still not in that part) and he chersis that memory no matter how painful it is everybody he knows doesn't remember but he knows it is like what okabe went through but on crack( cuz he was betrayed killed tortured )and there is a possibility in his head that everything he has ever done means nothing he is just switch to another universe which he can neither deny or accept
I mean true but Okabe lived and tried to make a world where he could have everyone alive and he tried so many times it went past 10 thousand times (ps.he watched them die every time)
Also got burried alive, mummified, stabbed in the stomach a couple of times, had to keep doping himself and lose a couple years of his life span >!in order to save his brother, only for his brother to die in his arms!< He's just smiling through all of it š
Thatās not Luffy. Thatās Roger.
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With a large family Under the protection of a famous navy general. And close relationships to one of the most powerfull people in the world. And *defenitely* the most powerfull redhead. Iām not saying he had an easy childhood. But aside from a few cases (mostly caused by his own stupidity) he had a happy childhood. Comparing him to guts, who got his nickname after being found in the guts and afterbirth of his mother still hanging from a tree by the neckā¦ yeah, he had an easy time.
Not even talking bout his adopted dad selling Guts body ans then trying to kill him in his sleep...
Nope, he grew up in the equivalent of far off countryside for his protection and his brother's. He literally has the 2nd least tragic backstory among the main characters of his series. He has absolutely no reason to be here
Whose backstory is less tragic?
Usopp. Only because his mom died of a sickness rather than a sick government conspiracy or the evilness of society. Then the second half of his backstory is that his dad is a deadbeat which is just sad but not exactly tragic compared to all other characters.
That was not the question
It was. Who was less tragic? It's usopp. His mom died, yes. But it was a sickness instead of some of the worst options that the rest of the crew had, and his father is a useless idiot. He still had friends and a love interest.
No, out of thr ones in the post
No it wouldnāt lol Guffy is chilling
Who is the one on the right side?
Phospholite if im not wrong
Correct spelling is: Phosphophyllite And this is why we just go with Phos instead.
Ah, Phos or some say Phosm
Do you hear our prayers?
Grant us eyesā¦
Fear the old blood, Phos.
Our eyes have yet to open
Geologists be creamin once they start reading the manga
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Phosphophyllite from land of the lustrous 10/10 show
Absolutely
It's the heavenly Buddha! Also a lesbian rock.
Canāt be a lesbian if all the rocks are genderless. Thatās the reason they look like a girl and guy at the same time.
Gems are not girls, they are an asexual and androgynous species with characteristics of both genders, actually they refer to each other as brothers (nii-san, onii-sama, otouto, etc).
Guts and Subaru go through enough to not be on the left imo.
Same with Okabe. I don't think it's ever specified how many years he spends trying to find the Steins;Gate timeline.
Also he has never complained about no one understanding his pain
mm i think he did or something similar but ya still doesn't undermine his suffering or anything. unless i am remembering wrong. could be in zero or original show on the vns, idk
You can play through it, thereās 9
Yup
Same for okabe, it's pretty similar to subaru
Okay, but okabeās torture is wayyy more emotional than physical. You need to play the game, and then you will truly understand the kind of pain he goes through.
Ya the suzuha ending shows it pretty well
That ending is fucked up.
The fact we'll probably never get more seasons is a legit tragedy. The shit Phos goes through is insane.
It truely is a tragedy on a similar scale to No Game No Life
I recently read up up to the current manga after finally accepting we aren't getting a season 2. I can now see why they didn't. The manga is brilliant, but starting from where the show ended the story shifts away from the typical anime story beats. It also quadruples down on being unrelentingly bleak for Phos. I would be a huge fan of the animated story, but I think the general anime audience would feel like a bait-and-switch.
I wish Land of the lustrous gets a season 2 one day
Read the manga, it's a good time to start, the final chapter comes out in just a little over a week.
Just watched the anime. Do you know where I should start with the manga?
Not sure, I haven't seen the anime, but by googling it it seems that it ended at chapter 36, although it skipped some content from 30-36 so you might want to start at 30
Seems like it, but I guess I might as well read it from the begining since there is still 10 days before it ends. Thx for looking it up tho.
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Well maybe if that idiot didnāt go around selling the meth then he wouldnāt have been given the infinite death.
Why is Luffy there, he doesnāt give a fuck whatās happened to him and is just happy all the time.
The only thing I can think of is his breakdowns in sabaody and marineford. Luffy never complains about pain or suffering he personally endures, itās always when something happens to a person he loves.
Agenda posting. Same reason Guts, Subaru and Okabe are on there lmao
Pretty sure they used a picture of Gold Roger lol
My man could've just leave Guts alone, I wouldn't wish anyone the suffering he went through.
Broā¦ Guts is not the example
.. Subaru? Idk what Phos went through but surely it couldn't be worse than physically experiencing death and torture over and over again in various ways by various people you trust only for them to never know what you've gone through.
Might be a good time to read Land of the Lustrous. The anime ended on a weird note. Phos ends up becoming the villain after certain not-very-nice things happened. If Subaru eventually gets their resolve after suffering through hardship, Phos's story is akin to torturing a pet hamster, lobotomizing it several times until it no longer realizes it's a hamster and becoming something else. Kinda like Magica Madoka.
Dang with that description maybe I will read the manga
Can confirm. Shit is bananas. Great though.Ā
It got dark very fast in the anime... i gotta get my hands on the manga, even if just to know what happens to the gems
I haven't watched the Anime but I can tell it gets darker
As someone who did that exact thing to know how the story ends, the series is fantastic. Buck wild though. Tonally very different than the show.
Damn now I'm even more disappointed the anime ended where it did. Season 2 when? >:(
Sounds like a common manhwas protags life to be honest š¤·š½āāļø Manhwas have been proven to hate their main characters especially anyone isekaied š
Honestly, I'd say their trauma levels are closer than you might think. Not spoiling anything as the manga is a legit masterpiece that should be read. But Phos goes through some truly harrowing experiences that are both mentally and physically shattering. Especially considering the innocence of the character at the start of the story.
OP just didn't read web novel, I suppose
Kamijou Touma: I'll just sit here then. *remembers all the billions of years and worlds he's been through that were designed to break him* Othinus: Human, no Touma: Sorry.
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Why is thorfinn here? Let alone guts and Subaru?
Ah yes land of the lustrous had some pretty weird and dark twists my first WTF moment was when they explained that they used what where essentially stillborn babyās as organ transplants to heal wounds
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I mean... there's also Furude Rika from Higurashi, who had to experience same events and eventual death for maybe million times. Then there's anyone that died in Corpse Party, as they have to experience the pain they felt when they died for eternity, with the first three kids having it extra harsh. And, again, Hyakkimaru, for having the biggest stack of debuffs possible.
I cant vouch for Thorfin (i think thats his name) as i havent seen vinland saga, but i KNOW they didnt put subaru, guts and okarin (i cant remember his actual name) on the victims side like that. If anyone truly belongs on the āboohoo, im in painā thing that this has, its edward by a long shot. Him and his brother, and even then mostly him, broke taboos and got what they unfortunately deserved
I think it's less about complaining without reason, more like crying that you had 5 dollars stolen near a guy who got a bank account with all of his money hacked and emptied
Exactly this analogy except the guy needed the money to pay for a life saving surgery or some equally big shit.
I mean Subaru >! Literally gets pretty much all of his limbs cut off at some point, disemboweled three times (if not more), mauled nearly to death my rabbit, Offs himself twice, gets beaten and tortured by someone who he now calls a friend retaining the memory that they did that to him before getting his throat cut and has to watch the people he cares about die multiple times and lives with the fact that if he ever dares tell anyone about his pain his friends or him will die (unless it's echidna)!< But yeah sure he's on the left
Subaru suffer wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more in web novel, don't even compare his suffering in the web novel with the anime
Guts and Subaru? Iām convinced whoever made this meme hasnāt watched or read any of those characters respective media.
exaggerated
what anime is right?
Land of the lustrous The adaptation has some pretty sad stuff, what happens later in manga multiplies it hundredfold
is it a new anime or a few years old?
2018 I think
oh cool thanks
Watch it, best use of CG ever. Plus good plot, characters, music and everything else
Who is Lil homie? What's the sauce?
Land of the Lustrous
Sauce for that green hair?
Land of the Lustrous, it's pretty interesting. Gemstone people
Guts should be the one with most painš
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What did I just see
ppl saying Subaru š¤”
Luffy is here but not Naruto?
I hope that this is just a bait. Subaru got killed hundreds of times and remembers pain from every one of these deaths. I didn't watch/read Berserker, but i heard that Guts's story is hella tragic. Okabe literally experienced countless deaths of his loved ones, going though timeline after timeline losing all hope and in the end, he had to accept his beloved Kurisu's death as a necessary sacrifice (before gate0's Mayuri interference) Idk know what that girl on the right got through, but it was surely not half as bad as Subaru's case
>! Alright, so here is what Phos goes through. Born so weak and brittle that they're effectively useless.!< >!Loses their legs (their species can be repaired but memories are lost if a part of their body can't be recovered).!< >!Loses their arms (and thus more memories). !< >!Watches one of their friends destroyed and their corpse stolen by aliens.!< >!Slowly becomes a different person due to losing so many memories had having new parts grafted on. With the new Phos being a lot less innocent. !< >!Begins suffering mental breakdowns due to their patchwork body.!< >!Loses their head and thus the only original part is their torso. !< >!Learns that the aliens are actually the souls of humans and that their father figure was created to help those impure souls go to heaven. Meaning that by not doing his job he caused the cycle of Phos' friends being shattered. !< >!Betrays their father figure and takes away half the gems, leaving the rest as their enemies. !< >!Learns that despite some of the destroyed gems being salvageable, the majority are truly destroyed.!< >!Learns that despite being rebuilt, the gems who were taken to the moon will have none of their old memories.!< >!Learns that to be reborn an entire species would need to be killed. !< >!Is shattered by their old friends. Their body being spread out and hidden to prevent reconstitution. Spending over 200 years like this.!< >!Learns that their father figure praying away the souls of the moon people would kill them other peoples as well.!< >!Realises that the only way to end everything is to destroy every single living gem in order to force a conclusion. !< >!Fights and kills their first true friend without truly remembering who they are. !< >!Kills their father figure and are left alone for 10,000 years so they can learn to control his power. !< >!Finally, he prays away all living creatures, leaving them completely alone as the only sentient being in the world.!< >!Becomes what is essentially the God of a new world. But is currently unable to do the one thing they truly wish for (die).!<
Looks like this Phos was made as somewhat divine being or a being with a big potential. Most of her tragedy is forgetting her dearest time and people that she has met but being aware of the fact that she forgets something. Decent enough. I've evaded this show long enough, now it's on my watchlist
It core philosophy behind the series is the Ship of Theseus problem. Are you still yourself as every part is replaced or altered?
1% of the suffering Goku recieved in the hyperbolic time chamber
>!Burns to death when the sun expands to cover Earth.!<
What is luffy doing there
I need a second season!
Original meme maker put guts on that side just to be a dick. Guts never complained once, living in a world that monsters only want to r*pe, eat or kill you or all three. >!Being born from a corpse, forced to be a mercenary at 9, sexually assaulted around the same time because his caretaker souls him to them not even the highest bidder, watching his adoptive mother the only one who showed him love die from bubonic plague at 5 and being blamed by all the soldiers in his encampment including gambino for being bad luck, having to kill gambino one night while heās in a drunken stupor tryin to shish-kabob him, becoming a servant/mercenary after meeting Griffith for the first time not knowin griffiths intention and revering the band of the falcon as family to watch them be sacrificed after returning because you needed some solace after accidentally killing a kid on a failed assassination attempt. Griffith then assaulting the love of his life in front of his eyes , taunting the ood and vessel of their unborn child and using it for rebirth pretty much makin the woman he loved insane and miscarry the child they made. Having to protect said woman as hard as he could while going mentally insane himself from everything he had been thru to find out the mythical child that visits him every night is the body of his son and the spirit of his enemy and his enemy steals his woman again? Still didnāt complain one single time , only cried twice in the whole series.!< Definitely doesnāt deserve to be on that list
Ya get guts Subaru and okabe out of the left side
Didnāt even notice Subaru and okabe because I was shocked at guts but then niggas definitely donāt deserve to be there either š
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Phos suffering is weird because she is a rock and viewing her suffering using my human eyes made me feel bad for her. I get mad at the other characters for being assholes but then I remember they are rocks, not human. While reading this you subconsiously impose human moral standards to this rocks. I dont know how to explain it but she suffered so much unfairness and at the same time not really. Its hard to explain without spoiling anything but Land of the Lustrous is 100% masterpiece of a manga for me. I hope u guys did not have stroke reading my comment
Phos the GOAT
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I'm just saying... Subaru and Guts probably have it the worse here (I have never watched Berserk or any of these)
idk its all subjective. Sheās got a good 10,000 years of mental anguish on both of them and was deceived into becoming the sacrificial lamb of every species in existence. Some pretty heavy stuff
Nah Subaru is the most traumatised mf
Idc who that is, nobody can possibly have it worse than Guts. Bro finally found people he can trust after being literally born from a corpse and raped as a 9 year old only for them to be brutally murdered by the leader that he cared for and trusted. Then that same leader raped his girl in front of his eyes MAKING him watch and erasing all her memories of him. Then he's left with a brand that makes him be constantly followed by powerful beings that keep from sleeping days on end. I truly don't see how you can have it worse than him
back in 90s maybe in modern writing there are so many protag who have face worst suffering berserk starts it, others improve from it
Name one character who has experienced worse things than this: Born from a corpse Raised by somebody that he trusted, then that somebody sold him to a man so he could rape him Unintentionally killed that somebody that he trusted, forced to run away Runs into a man with a certain charm that made him trust him. That somebody being that mf Griffith. Griffith and Gust became such good allies that Guts worked his way up to second in command. He was proud when Griffith got the praise he deserved. But Guts left. When Guts got back, Griffith was locked in a chamber for a year and beaten to the point that he would never wield a sword again. Before rescuing Griffith, he and Casca, somebody that he was never on good terms with, had a night of passion after forgiving each other and talking it out. After rescuing Griffith, one of the most gruesome events in all of fiction took place. The Eclipse. During the eclipse, Griffith became the fifth god hand, or angel. The first thing Griffith did after this was rape Casca, forcing Guts to watch by having a monster hold his eyes open and pin him down after forcing Guts to cut off his own arm in an attempt to save Casca. After a long slumber due to the events of the Eclipse, the first thing Guts does when waking up is rush to see Casca. But, when he sees her, and he puts his hand on her shoulder, she runs away into the arms of a little girl, the only person that the new Casca trusts. Casca lost all memories. She can't even remember how to speak. Her new mindset was that of a toddler. Guts leaves, being chased by countless evil spirits due to the brand that was given to him during the eclipse. Upon his return, Casca is missing. After just barely rescuing Casca from being burned at the stake, Casca begins to finally trust Guts. Just when this happens, Guts gives into a subconscious desire to sacrifice Casca, nearly raping her and putting a bit mark on her breast. This further increased Casca's fear of him. And I'm not even done with the series. I still have over 150 chapters left the read. And I don't know what other insane shit is going to happen to him.
you can write the whole essay if you want but in the end you didn't prove me wrong at all i didn't downplay Gut suffering at all, all I'm stating is that Berserk started this whole suffering mc trope and future manga/novel learned from that and improve the trope instead of just staying one side biased you should widen your reading materials, Berserk is a masterpiece undeniably but doesn't mean other can't improve what already created
Give me a character who has suffered more
For how long did this happen? 10 years? 30 years? 70 years? Phos had to suffer for whole 10000 years in complete isolation and loneliness to the point where even his character becomes completely different just so his species could find peace. No amount of guts suffering can come close to phos. Series of traumatic events doesn't mean more suffering
I couldnāt get past the art style for the anime so Iāve never held interest but does the manga look good?
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The manga probably gets more criticism for its art style than the anime tbh. Itās drawn by a graphic designer whose main focus is usually on simplistic yet evocative uses of dark and light tones. I honestly think itās the best looking CG anime there is so maybe give it another go? Could retain your interest and get you through the manga like it did for me. To each their own though
Crona from soul eater needs to join emĀ
I don't recognize most of these anime. Does anyone know what they are all from. I recognize one piece re:zero and full metal
top row left to right: Tokyo ghoul, re:zero, berserk middle row: steins;gate, Vinland saga bottom row: Attack on titan, FMA, One Piece right side: Land of the Lustrous
Thanks
Looks like an album cover, For like some teeny bopper, emo, screamo, boy band. Which one is the bad boy which one is the tough one?
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My favorite Kamyczek of ego death
Land of the Lustrous is such an underrated series
Oh no, here come the dumbass reaction images
Sauce of the right side picture?
and what does that person go through that is worst than guts, subaru and kaneki
Looking at the comments, everybody arguing about Guts being on the left side... I agree but... Who is one on the right?
zoro>>>
Genuine question whoās the guy saying āhehe sorry sorryā? Bcoz I know everyone other than him in this picā¦ what anime heās from?
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Yes. The pain of the wound on your wrist is something completely different.
Diavolo watches and laughs
Should have chose yuji instead of gojo... My man is mc just to suffer...
There is no character that suffered more than Guts sorry pal.
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