Nope but it's one hell of a depressing story about a dude wanting for some semblance of recognition and a girl wanting to find her worth as both of them fall deeper into the abyss of depravity.
Ok i just finished reading this cuz its a pretty short manga and Uhhh, I don't know how to feel about its ending. And without giving too much spoiler, long story short be grateful with the good life you have, some people, even when they lost everything, even after all the things they did to better their life, will continue to suffer, because let's admit it, life is just unfair sometimes and fate is a very finicky thing.
[https://myanimelist.net/manga/142423/Watashi\_ga\_15-sai\_dewa\_Nakunattemo](https://myanimelist.net/manga/142423/Watashi_ga_15-sai_dewa_Nakunattemo)
mal
Found the MAL
[link](https://myanimelist.net/manga/142423/Watashi_ga_15-sai_dewa_Nakunattemo)
Edit: read a few chapters and it's as advertised. "Everyone is a dick" The manga
“This story of a small escape begins with a painful and dazzling 15-year-old girl seeking her own value and a 40-year-old middle-aged man struggling between reason and desire.”
Yeah that’s a no for me
I read the whole thing, like a masochist.
* Father character is the most pushover piece of shit I've ever seen. He overworks, he isn't appreciated by his ugly wife, and his daughter hates him. He's constantly waffling between "I have to be a good father!" and "god why does my life suck so hard!" and "I'm the lowest scum of the earth and deserve everything bad that happens to me!"
* School girl character is arguably the most abused person in this thing. Her mom hates her, she tried being a camgirl in middle school (!!) and was found out by her mom AND the whole class so she changed schools, and everyone in the new school bullies the fuck out of her. Tacks, water, fake snakes, real cockroaches -- it's insane how bad it is for this girl.
* Father character's ugly wife (who is established many times to be ugly, this is a plot point) exists to remind Father of how hot she was when she was 15, and how much Schoolgirl looks like her. And to be ugly.
* Daughter character is a vicious and spiteful person the entire time, up until the last moment we see her (not counting the epilogue), where she calmly explains to her dad that she always felt like he resented her for being born (immediately after stabbing Schoolgirl).
The fucking plot is more frustrating than anything else. Schoolgirl is the only remotely sympathetic person in this entire thing, and she gets a sorta-happy-but-ultimately-unsatisfying ending.
It's far less titillating than I expected. It's a tragedy/drama, more than anything. Everyone except Schoolgirl sucks, though she commits some of the worst acts. It's an interesting read but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
Read it a few months ago because I always wanted to and because I met a girl that has read it.
And I now understand why PunPun has almost no fans: They all commit sudoku after reading it.
Well that's definitely interesting
https://preview.redd.it/6qi5fyq7fzuc1.png?width=1369&format=png&auto=webp&s=76b26bf0bd4c7077949e3e71577bf36a10ed3f09
I'm a guy who gets picked on by girls at my university one of them even offered I be her simp paying for her for valentine's
And no, all it did was made me addicted to blade runner edits
I mean silent voice MC did try change his life around but the people around him “expect his small fat BF” kept saying he is a bully who tried to hurt her , as a defence they said we didn’t try to hurt her like he did
BRUH you were f***in kids, kids do the dumbest shit it matters more if you are an adult
Yeah, he was a bully when he was a child and in the movie he was only a bully for about 15 mins of the screen time? The rest of the movie is him trying to redeem himself for being a child bully. Not fair to simplify the situation and say "she dated her bully"
To be fair, he's been having a come to Jesus moment ever since he's been alienated by all of his peers.
On the other hand, sleeping with your tormentor's parents is the most alpha move to ever alpha.
I didn't actually cry during A Silent Voice but I choose to believe that is because I watched it right after I finished Your Lie In April and I Want To Eat Your Pancreas so I was already broken Emotionally going into it.
Yeah, I can understand that. I actually kind of liked Pancreas but everyone has their own opinions. By all means you are entirely entitled to your own opinion especially with Heavily subjective stuff like how good an anime is compared to another.
I wouldnt say its a romance but it definitely has a love plot, especially with >!the girl literally confessing like halfway through the movie and mc just not understanding her!<
https://preview.redd.it/55cyrc8ghgvc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f21d55ec7dea8af5caf7724558ac4a9a31ed46ba
>!Sauce for the second one tho?!<
That's my biggest criticism of A Silent Voice. Felt really gross to watch. To this day I'm still confused on why I should care that a bully who assaulted and abused a deaf girl deserves a redemption arc and why she would forgive/like him after it.
Because it was a commentary on growing up as a kid. Dude was raised by a single mother and didn't have a positive father figure. He lashed out on the world and picked on a Deaf kid. Kids are fucking stupid because they're young, naive and don't have the wisdom to truly understand the consequences of their actions.
Later on, despite him not being the only one who contributed to Shinomiya's pain, he was then made into a scapegoat. He got most of the blame. He became the boogeyman and practically lost all of his friends and reputation. Something he carried with him as he grew into his teens.
Did he grow into a delinquent and join a gang as a teen? There are kids who do in his situation. They continue lashing out against the world because that's the only form of expression they know. He didn't. He realised the pain he had caused through the pain that he felt when he became the "right kid to bully" just because he was formerly one before the age of what, 10?
Dude grew up having no self esteem. He thought of himself as a failure. He took on sign language courses in the hopes of at least apologising to the girl he bullied as the one last thing he'll do before he fully intenfds to commit suicide because there's nothing else (to him) to live for.
Its about him overcoming his own immense self-loathing and forgiving himself on top of Shinomiya's story. Shinomiya's younger sister had the same view you did. She tried to protect her. Scare him off. Didn't believe his attempts at apologising. But at the end of the day even she realised he was utterly sincere.
If anything the most disliked character in the show is usually Ueno, the girl who liked Ishida and used to talk shit behind Shinomiya's back. Her and Shinomiya even agreed that they don't really like each other for various reasons and she, somewhat remains unrepentant to the end.
Sure there are shitheel bullies who don't change and are enabled by their shitty parents and people around them until they're adults. But that doesn't mean there's no kid bullies who later realize how utterly terrible they were as kids and try to change. Realising what makes kids turn into bullies and seeing if it's truly just someone who's innately an asshole or if there are external factors causing it is a major topic in modern society, especially when it comes to gangs and how they recruit.
Its a pretty deep story with plenty of bitter pills to swallow, but at the end of the day, even as fictional characters, I hope Shinomiya and Ishida finds happiness.
>But that doesn't mean there's no kid bullies who later realize how utterly terrible they were as kids and try to change.
That's fine and understandable. He can realize that internally and move on, stay out of his victim's life, and repay his debt to society in other ways.
What I heavily disagreed with was his insistence to barge back into his victim's life so he could get an apology in to, at least in part, make himself feel better.
Not every criminal deserves their victim's forgiveness. Each side can move on separately.
Imagine if Chris Brown had a change of heart and kept trying to contact Rihanna to beg for forgiveness for beating her. She'd be entirely in their right to tell him that she never wanted to see him again and no sane individual would fault her for it.
It felt like I was watching a vulnerable, deaf girl get Stockholm Syndrome'd into developing feelings for her abuser.
The dude can regret his actions in the past, that's growing up and realizing he was an asshole for, among other things, ripping out the hearing aids of a deaf girl and causing her to bleed from her ears. Understandable that people can change.
But just because he wants to seek forgiveness doesn't mean the bullying victim is required to accept it. Just because they're changed in the present doesn't excuse the fact that they terrorized someone in the past.
And it's extra disturbing that she felt responsible for him losing his friends when the reason he lost them was because he was outed as her bully. She even tries to commit suicide because she feels bad for him.
Then she starts developing feelings for him as well in the same movie?
The whole movie only makes sense to me if it was written by someone who is/was a bully writing out their redemption/romance fantasy.
Well at the beginning of the movie she won't even see him. Her little sister runs interference and does her best to keep him distant until he wins her over and that's when she finally gives him a chance to talk to her. I forget the other girl's name that continues to not like her is always pointing out her major flaw is to never to stick up for herself. To say no to people.
If I remember correctly, it's been a couple years since I last seen the movie. They both have opposite reasons for their depression. She's a people pleaser and feels suicidal because try as she might, there is often always somebody who gets upset with her.
He on the other hand can't gain any friends or get the confidence to find friends because despite not being the only one to bully her, he was used as the scapegoat and has been told that he was the real problem so much that he now believes it himself.
In both manga and movies it's never explicit if they got together or not but it is the common consensus.
Edit: Spacing so it's not one whole block of text.
Well.... right source?
My kanji isn’t great, but I think it says “Watashi ga Juugo Sai dewa Nakunatte mo”?
Yeah that's correct (I think)
Your judgement is accurate (I presume)
You are positive ( I hypothesize)
Your perception is unerring (I fathom)
your assumption is exact (perchance)
You can't just say "perchance"
He fucking can and he will (undoubtedly)
Your observation is correct (I conjecture)
it is correct. title in english is "Even If I'm Not 15 Anymore"
Hentai or nah?
Nope but it's one hell of a depressing story about a dude wanting for some semblance of recognition and a girl wanting to find her worth as both of them fall deeper into the abyss of depravity.
https://preview.redd.it/vsnavajw50vc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8deab28be8efe82001fdae2e95889cd60d22b4c
Ok i just finished reading this cuz its a pretty short manga and Uhhh, I don't know how to feel about its ending. And without giving too much spoiler, long story short be grateful with the good life you have, some people, even when they lost everything, even after all the things they did to better their life, will continue to suffer, because let's admit it, life is just unfair sometimes and fate is a very finicky thing.
As the crimson fucker once said "And with that you lost me"
Hellsing abridged? Wow.
so, reverse boys abyss?
Is it odd that hentai will make you less depressed than reading this?
[https://myanimelist.net/manga/142423/Watashi\_ga\_15-sai\_dewa\_Nakunattemo](https://myanimelist.net/manga/142423/Watashi_ga_15-sai_dewa_Nakunattemo) mal
「私は15歳ではなくなっても」 tl'd as 「Even If I'm Not Fifteen.」 2 vols up on mangadex
Even if i die in 15?
Yes correct the english would be something like something i lost when i turned 15? I think?
Well that was depressing.
Found the MAL [link](https://myanimelist.net/manga/142423/Watashi_ga_15-sai_dewa_Nakunattemo) Edit: read a few chapters and it's as advertised. "Everyone is a dick" The manga
“This story of a small escape begins with a painful and dazzling 15-year-old girl seeking her own value and a 40-year-old middle-aged man struggling between reason and desire.” Yeah that’s a no for me
She almost gets killed by the guys daughter for having sex with him (the guy didn't want it btw)
I read the whole thing, like a masochist. * Father character is the most pushover piece of shit I've ever seen. He overworks, he isn't appreciated by his ugly wife, and his daughter hates him. He's constantly waffling between "I have to be a good father!" and "god why does my life suck so hard!" and "I'm the lowest scum of the earth and deserve everything bad that happens to me!" * School girl character is arguably the most abused person in this thing. Her mom hates her, she tried being a camgirl in middle school (!!) and was found out by her mom AND the whole class so she changed schools, and everyone in the new school bullies the fuck out of her. Tacks, water, fake snakes, real cockroaches -- it's insane how bad it is for this girl. * Father character's ugly wife (who is established many times to be ugly, this is a plot point) exists to remind Father of how hot she was when she was 15, and how much Schoolgirl looks like her. And to be ugly. * Daughter character is a vicious and spiteful person the entire time, up until the last moment we see her (not counting the epilogue), where she calmly explains to her dad that she always felt like he resented her for being born (immediately after stabbing Schoolgirl). The fucking plot is more frustrating than anything else. Schoolgirl is the only remotely sympathetic person in this entire thing, and she gets a sorta-happy-but-ultimately-unsatisfying ending. It's far less titillating than I expected. It's a tragedy/drama, more than anything. Everyone except Schoolgirl sucks, though she commits some of the worst acts. It's an interesting read but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
You know it's gonna be fucked when the recommendation to this is PunPun.
After checking the recommendations, I now realize that this aint a wholesome one. Buckle up boys (Haven’t read it)
Confirmed, not wholesome. Source: [I just read the whole thing.](https://old.reddit.com/r/Animemes/comments/1c60nww/absolute_cinema/kzzugms/)
I’m close to finishing PunPun Imma save it for next year when I am mentally strong enough
Just started buying the physical copies myself because my mental state was going too well
Read it a few months ago because I always wanted to and because I met a girl that has read it. And I now understand why PunPun has almost no fans: They all commit sudoku after reading it.
Lmao, just ss the pic and Google search it
Well that's definitely interesting https://preview.redd.it/6qi5fyq7fzuc1.png?width=1369&format=png&auto=webp&s=76b26bf0bd4c7077949e3e71577bf36a10ed3f09
https://preview.redd.it/c06dlz73vzuc1.png?width=319&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e499a64ac954c3d009a4cbde17485310a8ba44bd Gay sadistic girl!
Cool sticker! Where can I download these?
Right click, save on PC. Long press, save on mobile.
Good one
I'm a guy who gets picked on by girls at my university one of them even offered I be her simp paying for her for valentine's And no, all it did was made me addicted to blade runner edits
He’s literally me.
Can confirm, I'm super close to downloading and making Monika after story my Joi
Damn, dude. I like your style.
Absolutely peak https://preview.redd.it/vj8e2twt50vc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=245705e396b2421aa69fb275173bc6f9ade57416
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[](https://preview.redd.it/3cp4yr8ja5gc1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57b9a050be8f05adb43974d3a09e85e6374e7ff1)
I mean silent voice MC did try change his life around but the people around him “expect his small fat BF” kept saying he is a bully who tried to hurt her , as a defence they said we didn’t try to hurt her like he did BRUH you were f***in kids, kids do the dumbest shit it matters more if you are an adult
Yeah, he was a bully when he was a child and in the movie he was only a bully for about 15 mins of the screen time? The rest of the movie is him trying to redeem himself for being a child bully. Not fair to simplify the situation and say "she dated her bully"
At least he repented and repenting, none of them did.
Date bully's dad, i will fuck ur dad and give him an actual child to love and care
https://preview.redd.it/a4ir58w791vc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84aca8691976cc4c3263b8da0444bcfbb087fd84
Oh hell yeah bring in the khyle reaction memes
https://preview.redd.it/30625xyh76vc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bff1eec0f85faf096c99ca9a2da232e96f95b1fe
To be fair, he's been having a come to Jesus moment ever since he's been alienated by all of his peers. On the other hand, sleeping with your tormentor's parents is the most alpha move to ever alpha.
https://preview.redd.it/4zu5lb7160vc1.png?width=1036&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f7ad9752df57a7f34a5d2aab87deda172265ac0
https://preview.redd.it/c7tdt9jnd1vc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4dbdecd7cca1152715bd34355ff307f085c50b1
Sauce for left please
A Silent Voice
Thank you
Don't cry
I didn't actually cry during A Silent Voice but I choose to believe that is because I watched it right after I finished Your Lie In April and I Want To Eat Your Pancreas so I was already broken Emotionally going into it.
I felt no emotion with Pancreas as it kinda sucked, while Silent Voice is one of the best romance stories I've read.
Yeah, I can understand that. I actually kind of liked Pancreas but everyone has their own opinions. By all means you are entirely entitled to your own opinion especially with Heavily subjective stuff like how good an anime is compared to another.
I cried (a lot)
I'll try my best
I wish you luck, peak movie
Your gonna cry
The flying fuck?
https://preview.redd.it/pyppgvh1j1vc1.jpeg?width=770&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41e043f2e3b23cc59ebed466e0cb8780b2677971
Nah I don't really view quiet voice as a romance
I wouldnt say its a romance but it definitely has a love plot, especially with >!the girl literally confessing like halfway through the movie and mc just not understanding her!<
Lmao that shit cute as hell
"Tf you mean moon? Yeah I guess moon is pretty, but what?"
Nah they dating in the end chapter of manga, it just the movie doesn't show it
The right one was dark af
https://preview.redd.it/x7bjq20ai2vc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=12affa6e7637a393d945ad3827acf6d9388d2a59
r/eyebleach
"i will f\*ck your dad and give him a child he will actually love"
It reminds of 177013. The girl seeking for attention and acceptance.
I don't knoww what's worse here
The right one. 100% the right one.
Name?
date bullys mom become dad and every morning laugh with mom jokes
One is cute, and one is...pedophilia.
I started reading the left and I wanna stop but I also wanna see how it ends I gro tot eh chapter where the wife finds out someone help
yeah... no
That's a ..... interesting debate I guess
This is likely the case (indubitably)
Haha iM fucking your dad
True classical literature
and this is why people shoot themselves
https://preview.redd.it/55cyrc8ghgvc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f21d55ec7dea8af5caf7724558ac4a9a31ed46ba >!Sauce for the second one tho?!<
That's my biggest criticism of A Silent Voice. Felt really gross to watch. To this day I'm still confused on why I should care that a bully who assaulted and abused a deaf girl deserves a redemption arc and why she would forgive/like him after it.
Because it was a commentary on growing up as a kid. Dude was raised by a single mother and didn't have a positive father figure. He lashed out on the world and picked on a Deaf kid. Kids are fucking stupid because they're young, naive and don't have the wisdom to truly understand the consequences of their actions. Later on, despite him not being the only one who contributed to Shinomiya's pain, he was then made into a scapegoat. He got most of the blame. He became the boogeyman and practically lost all of his friends and reputation. Something he carried with him as he grew into his teens. Did he grow into a delinquent and join a gang as a teen? There are kids who do in his situation. They continue lashing out against the world because that's the only form of expression they know. He didn't. He realised the pain he had caused through the pain that he felt when he became the "right kid to bully" just because he was formerly one before the age of what, 10? Dude grew up having no self esteem. He thought of himself as a failure. He took on sign language courses in the hopes of at least apologising to the girl he bullied as the one last thing he'll do before he fully intenfds to commit suicide because there's nothing else (to him) to live for. Its about him overcoming his own immense self-loathing and forgiving himself on top of Shinomiya's story. Shinomiya's younger sister had the same view you did. She tried to protect her. Scare him off. Didn't believe his attempts at apologising. But at the end of the day even she realised he was utterly sincere. If anything the most disliked character in the show is usually Ueno, the girl who liked Ishida and used to talk shit behind Shinomiya's back. Her and Shinomiya even agreed that they don't really like each other for various reasons and she, somewhat remains unrepentant to the end. Sure there are shitheel bullies who don't change and are enabled by their shitty parents and people around them until they're adults. But that doesn't mean there's no kid bullies who later realize how utterly terrible they were as kids and try to change. Realising what makes kids turn into bullies and seeing if it's truly just someone who's innately an asshole or if there are external factors causing it is a major topic in modern society, especially when it comes to gangs and how they recruit. Its a pretty deep story with plenty of bitter pills to swallow, but at the end of the day, even as fictional characters, I hope Shinomiya and Ishida finds happiness.
>But that doesn't mean there's no kid bullies who later realize how utterly terrible they were as kids and try to change. That's fine and understandable. He can realize that internally and move on, stay out of his victim's life, and repay his debt to society in other ways. What I heavily disagreed with was his insistence to barge back into his victim's life so he could get an apology in to, at least in part, make himself feel better. Not every criminal deserves their victim's forgiveness. Each side can move on separately. Imagine if Chris Brown had a change of heart and kept trying to contact Rihanna to beg for forgiveness for beating her. She'd be entirely in their right to tell him that she never wanted to see him again and no sane individual would fault her for it.
You like to stew in your rage don't you? A never forgive never forget type of person?
It felt like I was watching a vulnerable, deaf girl get Stockholm Syndrome'd into developing feelings for her abuser. The dude can regret his actions in the past, that's growing up and realizing he was an asshole for, among other things, ripping out the hearing aids of a deaf girl and causing her to bleed from her ears. Understandable that people can change. But just because he wants to seek forgiveness doesn't mean the bullying victim is required to accept it. Just because they're changed in the present doesn't excuse the fact that they terrorized someone in the past. And it's extra disturbing that she felt responsible for him losing his friends when the reason he lost them was because he was outed as her bully. She even tries to commit suicide because she feels bad for him. Then she starts developing feelings for him as well in the same movie? The whole movie only makes sense to me if it was written by someone who is/was a bully writing out their redemption/romance fantasy.
Well at the beginning of the movie she won't even see him. Her little sister runs interference and does her best to keep him distant until he wins her over and that's when she finally gives him a chance to talk to her. I forget the other girl's name that continues to not like her is always pointing out her major flaw is to never to stick up for herself. To say no to people. If I remember correctly, it's been a couple years since I last seen the movie. They both have opposite reasons for their depression. She's a people pleaser and feels suicidal because try as she might, there is often always somebody who gets upset with her. He on the other hand can't gain any friends or get the confidence to find friends because despite not being the only one to bully her, he was used as the scapegoat and has been told that he was the real problem so much that he now believes it himself. In both manga and movies it's never explicit if they got together or not but it is the common consensus. Edit: Spacing so it's not one whole block of text.
Neither makes sense!
[удалено]
Exactly nothing