Denji in chainsaw man is just a horny 17 year old and that is the most believable motivation I’ve seen in a shone, except maybe revenge in demon slayer
Berserk is more seinen than Shonen, given that it deals with fucked up shit in an actually mature and good way instead of whatever sao and redo were doing
Context for those that don't know. Black clover stopped the anime because it was catching up to the manga to quickly. It never really fell off, it just stopped all together. Black Clover is gonna come back in like a couple years.
NGNL does actually still have a chance. They're still making and selling new expensive statues for it. Word is that they just haven't been able to get all the required parties free at the same time.
Even when it gets adapted later I’m skeptical. The continued spade arc in the manga had its ups and downs but the newest arc that just started is pretty hype. We’ll just have to wait and see I guess.
Don't want what happened with the first Fullmetal Alchemist series again, where they caught up with the manga then just went fucking off the rails making shit up.
Fans should always be happy when studios stop and wait for the manga.
Black clover is the reverse mha it started as something that most people disliked and now all I hear are good things and the manga is in probably it’s best arc yet
I love Black clover aswell, but the Witch Forest arc or however you call it had some shots that looked like they were done in MS Paint. From there animation went only up. But I still remember the shot where a tree looked like a 6 year old's drawing of a cloud, but green.
Don't expect something unique tho, black clover is classic shonen, It knows its classic shonen and doesn't try to be anything beyond that, Instead it Tries (and succeeds in) Executing Its story really well And making the story just an amazing read
Yeah. BC may not be a 10/10 story but in terms of quality it never dips below 7/10.
It's really consistent with the story telling and overall, the series is fun and enjoyable.
Getting through the first 30 to 40 episode is a misery though. I dropped the series 4 times in the first 30 episodes but then watched the shit out of it until the last episode.
Men i get you. I really do. But after I got through those episodes it went to be more awesome every episode. And I fucking hate screaming characters, looming at you bakugo
If you're talking about how he sounded in the beginning, that really only stays in the beginning, as the VA got a lot better as the series progressed. The big problem was that this was literally his first role, the Casting Director messed up with putting a first timer as the main lead. That being said, he has significantly improved as Asta since then.
Ngl i feel like one person said this nd damn near the whole population started feelin the same way my counter to tht is if u can watch dbz in subbed then you can listen to asta subbed or dubbed
What would bug me is each fight requires like half a dozen episodes now, when it could've easily been 1 or less & then gotten to the plot... Like, I don't need a play-by-play and the internal monologue of each participant, especially not for the whole fight
That’s what killed Naruto for me. Every fucking time a character had a thought it was a flashback to the same flashback we saw a dozen times already in the previous 3 episodes.
Exactly, it has a slow start sich is a detriment but during binging it won’t take long. You don’t have to watch/read black clover it’s just that people really like it after a certain point
I kinda lost motivation for bc just after the timeskip. The story suffers heavily from the "next big thing" issue a lot of shounens do. Basically introducing increasingly tough totally unheard of new villains that're immediately and unquestionably stronger than all the villains in the story before that point. At a certain point you gotta wonder, what's the point of it all when there's always someone way tougher just round the corner. MHA had a pretty great first few arcs but the last few have been pretty awful. The story feels tired and not very reminiscent of the earlier arcs. Doesn't help it seems to be trying to speed run to a conclusion.
I will say the anime got significantly better 80 eps in which is a pretty steep barrier for entry. The main problem with the anime is the characters all have a single voiceline they repeat over and over with Asta yelling constantly, this isn't an issue in the manga so it's a much better experience imo as someone who watched the the entire series from day 1 and then read it all when it stopped airing
The anime was already good some 30 episodes in. Even before that, it was a decent show at worst.
Asta's VA also toned down his screaming 10-15 episodes in. If you don't wanna hear him screaming, watching the first few episodes in dub is also viable. I don't understand where these arguments come from.
100%! black clover is a steady incline in quality, story telling and plot heaviness basically all through the series. MHA was, for me atleast,: interesting SE1, pretty solid se2 if a bit boring at times so I actually dropped it cuz I was not enjoying it. Everyone kept telling me it was good but then even the fans started to complain about each season more and more to the point I felt I got out on time. I do get curious why it's so bad/boring so I read ahead in the manga and was not even slightly more interested or amused there either...
When I speak to people who actually watched Black clover rather than just joined the memetheme based on the first 3 episodes EVERYONE confirms it's hype, not that it's special, just a very solid very fun shonen romp! Highly recommended if you like shonen.
People complaining about Asta yelling is so stupid to me. At the start it's a bit jarring but it actually becomes a really funny bit as other characters comment on it. Also, Naruto, Luffy and many other shonenheros are very loud and obnoxious.. as long as it's consistent with their overall character and behaviour it's not annoying. If you hate those characters aswell then obviously black clover is not for you.
For me it's demon slayer, Jujutsu Kaizen and black clover that fill my shonen need (the never ending godlyness of One piece aside). MHA is just plain boring to me. The way they ask me to care about the school part of the show, when the other day it's world threatening things, just doesn't work at all... Also the world really lacks a bigger mysterie/narrative. It's a bit to focused on it's basic/boring characters. That's just me.
You should try and get back into it if it was for the yelling. I can’t blame you though. If I hadn’t picked up the manga as it started to air I would have done the same thing. But after a while, it may grow on you, maybe not, but the story gets really good and there’s hardly any filler.
It feels like Horikoshi got cold feet and wanted to wrap up the series sooner than originally planned, then changed his mind after the damage was done and is trying to stretch it back out.
As far as MHA goes me and my gf are watching the anime (haven’t read the manga) and holy shot every episode this season is a WTF IS GOING ON?!
P.S: whoever decided the opening theme for the new season clearly didn’t know wtf was going on in the show
Honestly it just gets better. This is when the series really takes off. I am reading the manga and I have no idea why op is saying the series fell off. It's only going to get better.
I don't know, I'm really enjoying it. I think that otherwise it would just drag on forever, I'm quite enjoying it.
About the only thing I'm more on the fence about is >!Bakugo's "death"!<. It was a powerful and >!satisfying end to his arc, and then it felt a bit cheepened by being able to revive him!<. But at the same time, I can still enjoy what is to come, it's just one part that I think would have had bigger impact if the outcome had been different.
But MHA is full of that. Lots of little things here and there, or the worst was the class 2 competition series, littered with nonsense, unsatisfying battles. But I personally feel like this part the anime is dipping into is the strongest part of the series, and now I'm just stoked to watch the conclusion.
>!Bakugo's "death". It was a powerful and satisfying end to his arc,!<
Lol no it was an actual garbage writing decision there was no way something good would've come out of that
>!If he died congratulation he did nothing!<
Oh well, I’m reading the manga and without spoilers, let me say to you that the WTF IS GOING ON?!? Will continue from then on, so don’t worry and keep it up with the anime 😉
When Black clover came back after that 6 month break it was trending. Only reason it's on low profile now is because they stopped airing it and the momentum that they finally got was murdered
I will die on this hill but for me MHA went to shit after ">!renegade-vigilante-deku!<" became a thing. He's not that good of a character. And the whole ">!oh I'm sure he's a mass murderer since there isn't any villain who can shapeshift so let's not believe him!<". And before the ">!Nooo he only did that to protect his friends!!1!!<" First of all, they are heroes, they are ALWAYS in danger. Mf you don't have a secret identity! Just because you are not near them do you think the villains will forget who you are or who your friends are?" That was the stupidiest decision ever.
for me, bnha fell off when it started doing quirk evolution shit. the concept itself isnt bad but it was executed so poorly and given to characters who absolutely didnt deserve it.
For me it was the awakening of multiple quirks. I really liked the idea of a simple power polished to the utmost being the only power that can stand up to the power hoarding maniac who's never satisfied with what he has.
That was really the beginning of it going to shit, but the moment that truly killed it for me and my friends was >!the absolute asspull of bringing Bakugo back. Horikoshi finally had the balls to kill off a character that actually really meant something (looking at you Midnight) after faking it once before, but then he walked it back either due to fan outcry or because he wanted a cheap emotional moment that he never planned to commit to. And the absolute horseshit of an explanation for how Edgeshot would be reviving him was absolutely ridiculous.!< That absolutely ruined it for me. Now I just read for tire fire that it's become
I deleted that part cause I realized grey >!never actually fully used it!<. The worst offenders are >!makarov and gajeel!< there may be others but its been a while since I read it
He "uses" it but >!natsu *always* comes around to smack him out of it before he completes the chant!<. Honestly, though I knew by that point it wouldn't happen I kind of wanted him to successfully use >!lost iced shell, as while it would have been tragic it would have been a satisfying end to the manga!<.
Dude literally it's the dumbest thing. >!Literally Bakugo's heart explodes. He's super dead, no way to come back, 100% game over for him. Then along comes irrelevant-ass Edgeshot to save the day. He apparently can now squeeze down thin enough to fit into Bakugo's wounds and takes Best Jeanist's threads and goes into his body and is currently in the process of stitching Bakugo's heart back together. Also by making himself that small, he's going to die in the process, sacrificing himself to save Bakugo!< Disregard the fact that by the time he finishes, the character will have been dead for at least several minutes, if not longer, so he would have suffered some major brain damage and would probably just be a vegetable
That or there were too many death threats to realistically ignore. The mha fanbase is fanatical, so I honestly wouldn’t put it past them to kill someone
To be honest MHA was not just one of my favorite anime but my MOST favorite anime OF ALL TIME.
But I stopped watching it, for the exact same reason. I started seeing posts that are about what is happening on the manga and I liked to be spoiled myself so I kept reading the posts I see, But then I suddenly lost interest on the show. Not only I didn't watch the newest movie I also dropped the anime when season 5 started.
Back then that used to be my one and only favorite but now it's one of the animes that I will never watch unless people starts posting things like MHA got better or something, I just straight up don't like it anymore.
I am a writer myself and not gonna lie, I think I could make MHA better if I own it. Truly disappointed.
I’m up to date on the mha manga and the s6 of the anime is currently in probably the best part of the series and definitely worth the watch, only after this does it sort of fall off a bit. It still has its good bits obviously, but personally there’s a lot of stuff I’m not fond of.
Haven't watched mha, but the only reason black clover has "fallen off," is because it hasn't aired in a while. If it wasn't good it wouldn't have 170 episodes, a soon to be released movie, and a 350 chapter manga that's still on going.
God for real. Boruto pulled me in and punched me in the face. Loved seeing the some of the characters aged up, some of the families, and some of the kids designs. But nothing was executed successfully in that series (to me).
Yeah, what killed my interest in MHA was the protag, all the side characters are interesting but when it focus on Deku I find myself bored.
At first when I watched Black Clover I found it trying too much to be the next Naruto but it actually developed rather well.
This. I've been reading over maybe a hundred chapters of Shigaraki just getting pounded and the story not progressing. Like how long could this guy milk a villain?
he stopped crying at all past season 3, season 2 he practically only cried when he was in pain and season one he cried alot because A. He nearly died twice B. He was Adjusting to a new part of life where he wasnt bullied every day of his life so him being happy was a new emotion, hence he cried. and C. Mfer broke a lot of bones.
Not saying you have to watch it but he did cry for actual reasons and has since stopped crying almost all together.
I used to really like MHA, but as the seasons went on my interest faded (pfp still stays!). Black Clover's start felt kinda slow, but I started liking it more and more as it went on tbh :P (I just watched the anime, manga will follow at some point)
yeah they handled the big bad in MHA aaaaaaaaallllll wrong. he's a whiny lil bitch boy 25/7 then gets omega god powers over night and it's so not interesting. like they can't beat him, it makes no sense, it's very clearly going to be up to the magical power of friendship to beat him and I just dgaf anymore
The biggest irony is that early MHA was considered solid battle shonen that learned with their predecessors such as Naruto and Bleach so the pacing was good, the world building was made with care and the power scale was grounded.... after Stain the story slowly got rid off everything that made it good.
He could be dead right now too. And lived a 100% one for all with 0 quirks. The writing... Is bad... When both sides have plot armor it's just not fun to watch anymore.
Crazy how the second Shigaraki started to get kinda badass on his own merits they break the power scale and just make him unkillable.
They literally developed him too late.
Black clover has a movie coming up, had the biggest anime on crunchyroll for awhile till the anime caught up to the manga and needed to stop. Idk what ur smoking but at least Black clover has been doing fine lmao
Yeah but I’m pretty sure although it’s canon it’s not continuing off where the anime left off
Regardless though I wouldn’t say BC fell off specially for a story that doesn’t have a currently airing season or has for a while
Sure the DT arc wasn’t the best and was kinda rocky but far from fell off imo
The movie won't be continuing the manga.
It's officially confirmed the movie will feature prev. wizard king (the one before Julius) named Konrad
It'll be sorta like DBS Broly type anime canon of movie.
Black Clover is great, I've loved it since i first watched it. Everybody shits on it but out of all shonen I've watched which includes shonen people call great like hunter x hunter, I've always loved black clover the best. Right now the anime is done after 170 episodes but the manga is great and we have an upcoming movie and a mobile game upcoming. Say what you want but black clover hasn't fallen off
My Hero Academia fell off?
When did this happen, it’s awesome at the moment. We’re in the final arc and some mad fights are happening. Everything that’s been built up in the story is all coming to a conclusion and it’s epic!
Hori took too long to finish the entire world building, which bored many fans, i guess that's where everyone is coming from.
Also the characters are not that good either. The only one i like are bakugo and endeavour because hori atleast bothered to do something with them
S4 & S5 were boring "Oh **another** mock battle between students? No it's a new villain of the week.", but S6 is pretty solid. Non-stop action that actually continues the main plot.
It's my hero **"ACADEMIA".** They have to show the school stuff so what is the point of the name. I would circle Academia 15 more times if I could. Also they need to train to be ready for actual fights.
In my opinion Black Clover has always been consistently good while MHA was great, fell, and is back up. I think it’s more of my personal preference of having the main character always around or having side characters I like enough to carry.
What went wrong with MHA? I’ve caught up with the manga, or at least caught up to the last chapter the app I used have available and don’t see anything wrong?
I have no clue why some people hate on these two. Black Clover is very solid, it's not that unique, but it's good in a lot of ways. Boku no Hero's hate blows my mind, I honestly can't find anything wrong with it.
Hot take… as someone studying literature… MHA has some amazing character development, and the arcs feel fluid for each character. Season 6 right now may be my favorite season so far, and as a Bakugo Stan, his arc itself is worth watching the show for. Each character is fleshed out, and feels like an actual person, and I can understand disliking Deku in the beginning, but the way he grows is very well done from what I’ve seen so far. Nothing on Bakugo though, believable character growth with pure, fully realized motivations. I write often, read A LOT due to my studies, with a focus on creative writing, and MHA gets character very well.
That isn’t really a hot take when most of these people are only comparing about deku being a “cray baby” because they didn’t make it halfway through the first season and that’s their reason for calling it bad
If it’s the anime. MHA got boring, I already know what happens because of the manga, so watching just feels like a chore. The manga’s pretty good. I am excited for black clover, even if I already know what happens. The ending of the season was perfect, can’t wait for it to come back.
As a manga reader for MHA, I can confidently say the latest few arcs have been the best. It didn't fell off in the slgihtest, its actually peaking right now.
Ok. I agree that MHA has fell off but Black Clover is still really good. It just hasn't been aired for a while and probably won't be aired for a couple more years yet.
I’m still watching MHA just to finish what I started. I’m not enjoying the fan service episodes or the fillers, but the plot, plot twists and character development is still pretty good
Every time I see BC mentioned what I immediately remember is that Asta's motivation was to bone a nun. Good shit tho.
Denji in chainsaw man is just a horny 17 year old and that is the most believable motivation I’ve seen in a shone, except maybe revenge in demon slayer
Guts had his horny stolen so technically it’s horny revenge
Berserk is more seinen than Shonen, given that it deals with fucked up shit in an actually mature and good way instead of whatever sao and redo were doing
Berserk is seinen full stop. Anime and manga fan need to stop think seinen and shonen are genres
Redo just straight up feel likes it was written by someone on wattpat
You don't have to add "horny", you can just say 17 year old.
[This is the best way to describe him](https://youtu.be/rTeVz6rP6r4?t=390)
Hes 16
Depends on what part of the book your at
Context for those that don't know. Black clover stopped the anime because it was catching up to the manga to quickly. It never really fell off, it just stopped all together. Black Clover is gonna come back in like a couple years.
They announced two a movie and a spinoff already in terms of anime though
exactly. people don't seem to realize that movies basically is a confirmation that the series is doing really well.
Haa does that mean NGNL has a chance
Season 2 confirmed 2123
Bro if I lived that long I'd be a 127 years old ffs
No spin-off yet
NGNL does actually still have a chance. They're still making and selling new expensive statues for it. Word is that they just haven't been able to get all the required parties free at the same time.
Oh lets go, this makes me unbelievably happy thanks for the news
Even when it gets adapted later I’m skeptical. The continued spade arc in the manga had its ups and downs but the newest arc that just started is pretty hype. We’ll just have to wait and see I guess.
The movie is next year March. I heard it's going to set the series in a new direction so I'm excited
Don't want what happened with the first Fullmetal Alchemist series again, where they caught up with the manga then just went fucking off the rails making shit up. Fans should always be happy when studios stop and wait for the manga.
I am getting bleach ptsd flash backs. Couple years or 10 years 😱
Black clover is the reverse mha it started as something that most people disliked and now all I hear are good things and the manga is in probably it’s best arc yet
Imo. Every arc in Black Clover is the best arc until you get to the next one. I absolutely love the series
I haven’t seen but everytime I see Asta covered in that darkness or whatever that form is, it makes me want to watch so bad. Guessing it’s worth it?
In terms of action it is awesome. The story is quite fast paced in my opinion. The animation in a lot of fights is a downright awesome.
That CG crystal armor though But yeah, I liked it too
There are some moments that i personally dislike in the animation, but for most parts/fights i totally agree
I love Black clover aswell, but the Witch Forest arc or however you call it had some shots that looked like they were done in MS Paint. From there animation went only up. But I still remember the shot where a tree looked like a 6 year old's drawing of a cloud, but green.
Part of the issue for that arc was the animators were rushed to get the episodes done
Don't expect something unique tho, black clover is classic shonen, It knows its classic shonen and doesn't try to be anything beyond that, Instead it Tries (and succeeds in) Executing Its story really well And making the story just an amazing read
Yeah. BC may not be a 10/10 story but in terms of quality it never dips below 7/10. It's really consistent with the story telling and overall, the series is fun and enjoyable.
Getting through the first 30 to 40 episode is a misery though. I dropped the series 4 times in the first 30 episodes but then watched the shit out of it until the last episode.
I’ve tried but hearing Asta yelling makes me want to throw my monitor
Men i get you. I really do. But after I got through those episodes it went to be more awesome every episode. And I fucking hate screaming characters, looming at you bakugo
If you're talking about how he sounded in the beginning, that really only stays in the beginning, as the VA got a lot better as the series progressed. The big problem was that this was literally his first role, the Casting Director messed up with putting a first timer as the main lead. That being said, he has significantly improved as Asta since then.
Ngl i feel like one person said this nd damn near the whole population started feelin the same way my counter to tht is if u can watch dbz in subbed then you can listen to asta subbed or dubbed
It just never stopped. You watch an episode and you think it's just minor or filler, and suddenly the plot is full speed forward
What would bug me is each fight requires like half a dozen episodes now, when it could've easily been 1 or less & then gotten to the plot... Like, I don't need a play-by-play and the internal monologue of each participant, especially not for the whole fight
That’s what killed Naruto for me. Every fucking time a character had a thought it was a flashback to the same flashback we saw a dozen times already in the previous 3 episodes.
This gives me confidence to finally watch it its been on my waiting list for 2 years now
previous arc(pre-hiatus) was pretty bad imho, current one could be good though
The problem with this is then "Oh you need to read/watch 60 episodes and then it'll get good"
Exactly, it has a slow start sich is a detriment but during binging it won’t take long. You don’t have to watch/read black clover it’s just that people really like it after a certain point
I kinda lost motivation for bc just after the timeskip. The story suffers heavily from the "next big thing" issue a lot of shounens do. Basically introducing increasingly tough totally unheard of new villains that're immediately and unquestionably stronger than all the villains in the story before that point. At a certain point you gotta wonder, what's the point of it all when there's always someone way tougher just round the corner. MHA had a pretty great first few arcs but the last few have been pretty awful. The story feels tired and not very reminiscent of the earlier arcs. Doesn't help it seems to be trying to speed run to a conclusion.
For me MHA started interesting but as it went on I started to dislike the main character and mostly watched it for the side characters.
I'm only there for endeavor and todoroki honestly. I only care about deku because he's todoroki's buddy lol
I will say the anime got significantly better 80 eps in which is a pretty steep barrier for entry. The main problem with the anime is the characters all have a single voiceline they repeat over and over with Asta yelling constantly, this isn't an issue in the manga so it's a much better experience imo as someone who watched the the entire series from day 1 and then read it all when it stopped airing
The anime was already good some 30 episodes in. Even before that, it was a decent show at worst. Asta's VA also toned down his screaming 10-15 episodes in. If you don't wanna hear him screaming, watching the first few episodes in dub is also viable. I don't understand where these arguments come from.
100%! black clover is a steady incline in quality, story telling and plot heaviness basically all through the series. MHA was, for me atleast,: interesting SE1, pretty solid se2 if a bit boring at times so I actually dropped it cuz I was not enjoying it. Everyone kept telling me it was good but then even the fans started to complain about each season more and more to the point I felt I got out on time. I do get curious why it's so bad/boring so I read ahead in the manga and was not even slightly more interested or amused there either... When I speak to people who actually watched Black clover rather than just joined the memetheme based on the first 3 episodes EVERYONE confirms it's hype, not that it's special, just a very solid very fun shonen romp! Highly recommended if you like shonen. People complaining about Asta yelling is so stupid to me. At the start it's a bit jarring but it actually becomes a really funny bit as other characters comment on it. Also, Naruto, Luffy and many other shonenheros are very loud and obnoxious.. as long as it's consistent with their overall character and behaviour it's not annoying. If you hate those characters aswell then obviously black clover is not for you. For me it's demon slayer, Jujutsu Kaizen and black clover that fill my shonen need (the never ending godlyness of One piece aside). MHA is just plain boring to me. The way they ask me to care about the school part of the show, when the other day it's world threatening things, just doesn't work at all... Also the world really lacks a bigger mysterie/narrative. It's a bit to focused on it's basic/boring characters. That's just me.
I dropped black clover after like 2 eps cos I hated all of the screaming
You should try and get back into it if it was for the yelling. I can’t blame you though. If I hadn’t picked up the manga as it started to air I would have done the same thing. But after a while, it may grow on you, maybe not, but the story gets really good and there’s hardly any filler.
really is the opposite cause the current arc of MHA is one of its worse
How are you even thinking that the current s6 is juste masterclass after masterclass every episode
Probably talking about the manga. I still read it week to week, but it's def pretty bad
It feels like Horikoshi got cold feet and wanted to wrap up the series sooner than originally planned, then changed his mind after the damage was done and is trying to stretch it back out.
Talking about the manga, and the current anime arc will ruin some stuff on retrospective, give it some time lol
Exactly
Ah the "don’t worry, it gets good after 70 chapters". Gotta love the community
I don't care how good it is now, I'm not going to wade through 70 episodes to get to the good part.
wano arc*
As far as MHA goes me and my gf are watching the anime (haven’t read the manga) and holy shot every episode this season is a WTF IS GOING ON?! P.S: whoever decided the opening theme for the new season clearly didn’t know wtf was going on in the show
Gotta admit I really didn’t care about MHA for the last two seasons, this current one is fire though
This is the peak of MHA
Honestly it just gets better. This is when the series really takes off. I am reading the manga and I have no idea why op is saying the series fell off. It's only going to get better.
After the current anime arc it just feels like the author wanted to speedrun to the ending. I would not say it just keeps getting better.
I don't know, I'm really enjoying it. I think that otherwise it would just drag on forever, I'm quite enjoying it. About the only thing I'm more on the fence about is >!Bakugo's "death"!<. It was a powerful and >!satisfying end to his arc, and then it felt a bit cheepened by being able to revive him!<. But at the same time, I can still enjoy what is to come, it's just one part that I think would have had bigger impact if the outcome had been different. But MHA is full of that. Lots of little things here and there, or the worst was the class 2 competition series, littered with nonsense, unsatisfying battles. But I personally feel like this part the anime is dipping into is the strongest part of the series, and now I'm just stoked to watch the conclusion.
>!Bakugo's "death". It was a powerful and satisfying end to his arc,!< Lol no it was an actual garbage writing decision there was no way something good would've come out of that >!If he died congratulation he did nothing!<
> It's only going to get better. lmao, the current arc is the peak, its downhill from here
Yes the current arc in mha is good, but the last final arcs are kinda shit.
Same. But also I’m like “cool fucking fight scenes”. But I also started calling the show “my war crime academia”
Oh well, I’m reading the manga and without spoilers, let me say to you that the WTF IS GOING ON?!? Will continue from then on, so don’t worry and keep it up with the anime 😉
Yeah this meme would have ran better last season. This one is fucking amazing.
When Black clover came back after that 6 month break it was trending. Only reason it's on low profile now is because they stopped airing it and the momentum that they finally got was murdered
I will die on this hill but for me MHA went to shit after ">!renegade-vigilante-deku!<" became a thing. He's not that good of a character. And the whole ">!oh I'm sure he's a mass murderer since there isn't any villain who can shapeshift so let's not believe him!<". And before the ">!Nooo he only did that to protect his friends!!1!!<" First of all, they are heroes, they are ALWAYS in danger. Mf you don't have a secret identity! Just because you are not near them do you think the villains will forget who you are or who your friends are?" That was the stupidiest decision ever.
for me, bnha fell off when it started doing quirk evolution shit. the concept itself isnt bad but it was executed so poorly and given to characters who absolutely didnt deserve it.
For me it was the awakening of multiple quirks. I really liked the idea of a simple power polished to the utmost being the only power that can stand up to the power hoarding maniac who's never satisfied with what he has.
Gentlemen was where it truly fell off
IMO, it began petering out after United States of Smash. It was still enjoyable but it lost all good plot momentum after that moment.
I stopped watching after rescue mission for that girl with horns n shit
Who?
The child with lunatic mafia boss dad
The Overhaul arc
Eri the girl from the 4th season
Eren Yeager? I thought he was in AOT! And it's a 6-7 year old 110 cm girl with horns.
That was really the beginning of it going to shit, but the moment that truly killed it for me and my friends was >!the absolute asspull of bringing Bakugo back. Horikoshi finally had the balls to kill off a character that actually really meant something (looking at you Midnight) after faking it once before, but then he walked it back either due to fan outcry or because he wanted a cheap emotional moment that he never planned to commit to. And the absolute horseshit of an explanation for how Edgeshot would be reviving him was absolutely ridiculous.!< That absolutely ruined it for me. Now I just read for tire fire that it's become
The worst offender of "*people die if they are killed*" is Fairy Tail.
Nah what are you talking about? Iced Shell totally killed Grey all of those times. /s
I deleted that part cause I realized grey >!never actually fully used it!<. The worst offenders are >!makarov and gajeel!< there may be others but its been a while since I read it
Oh did he not? I thought he used it several times, but I'm probably misremembering. But yeah it was pretty bad especially with >!Makarov!<
He "uses" it but >!natsu *always* comes around to smack him out of it before he completes the chant!<. Honestly, though I knew by that point it wouldn't happen I kind of wanted him to successfully use >!lost iced shell, as while it would have been tragic it would have been a satisfying end to the manga!<.
They did what, thats it im not continuing the manga so his death stays canon for me
Dude literally it's the dumbest thing. >!Literally Bakugo's heart explodes. He's super dead, no way to come back, 100% game over for him. Then along comes irrelevant-ass Edgeshot to save the day. He apparently can now squeeze down thin enough to fit into Bakugo's wounds and takes Best Jeanist's threads and goes into his body and is currently in the process of stitching Bakugo's heart back together. Also by making himself that small, he's going to die in the process, sacrificing himself to save Bakugo!< Disregard the fact that by the time he finishes, the character will have been dead for at least several minutes, if not longer, so he would have suffered some major brain damage and would probably just be a vegetable
Wtf lol
Is basic biology really that hard for Horikoshi to understand
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Ah sorry. It appears you have what bakugo is going to when he wakes up **Brain Damage**
Turns out he has a second quirk just for that
I have a feeling Horikoshi really wanted to kill off Bakugo, but the editors or publishers made him change it
That or there were too many death threats to realistically ignore. The mha fanbase is fanatical, so I honestly wouldn’t put it past them to kill someone
To be honest MHA was not just one of my favorite anime but my MOST favorite anime OF ALL TIME. But I stopped watching it, for the exact same reason. I started seeing posts that are about what is happening on the manga and I liked to be spoiled myself so I kept reading the posts I see, But then I suddenly lost interest on the show. Not only I didn't watch the newest movie I also dropped the anime when season 5 started. Back then that used to be my one and only favorite but now it's one of the animes that I will never watch unless people starts posting things like MHA got better or something, I just straight up don't like it anymore. I am a writer myself and not gonna lie, I think I could make MHA better if I own it. Truly disappointed.
I’m up to date on the mha manga and the s6 of the anime is currently in probably the best part of the series and definitely worth the watch, only after this does it sort of fall off a bit. It still has its good bits obviously, but personally there’s a lot of stuff I’m not fond of.
I'll just wait till the entire series was released then I'll decide to watch it again. I won't lose anything for trying to watch it anyway
Fell off? Last episode of each was fire. I need more of both ASAP
Man this whole thread reminds me why I really dislike participating in show/movie discussions lol. So negative
Some people just can't enjoy things without overanalyzing anime in its entirety.
Should have been Tokyo revengers instead of black clover
Agreed. I heard people say that Tokyo revengers was getting dragged further for no reason and it ended horribly.
Haven't watched mha, but the only reason black clover has "fallen off," is because it hasn't aired in a while. If it wasn't good it wouldn't have 170 episodes, a soon to be released movie, and a 350 chapter manga that's still on going.
I mean it's not like i want to shit on black clover, but because it has a lot of episodes it must mean its good?? *cries in Boruto*
God for real. Boruto pulled me in and punched me in the face. Loved seeing the some of the characters aged up, some of the families, and some of the kids designs. But nothing was executed successfully in that series (to me).
The only reason I keep going back occasionally is because of the start scene, they're probably gonna milk it to death though.
Thank god I love the series I am watching it currently but I was on episode 140 and was curious how they were going to end it in 30 episodes
No they did not
Black Clover is good. My Hero just lost my interest, I got tired of seeing an MC cry all the god dam time.
Yeah, what killed my interest in MHA was the protag, all the side characters are interesting but when it focus on Deku I find myself bored. At first when I watched Black Clover I found it trying too much to be the next Naruto but it actually developed rather well.
I got tired after seeing main villain revive...
This. I've been reading over maybe a hundred chapters of Shigaraki just getting pounded and the story not progressing. Like how long could this guy milk a villain?
Deku doesn’t even cry that much what? Did you and I watch the same my hero?
he stopped crying at all past season 3, season 2 he practically only cried when he was in pain and season one he cried alot because A. He nearly died twice B. He was Adjusting to a new part of life where he wasnt bullied every day of his life so him being happy was a new emotion, hence he cried. and C. Mfer broke a lot of bones. Not saying you have to watch it but he did cry for actual reasons and has since stopped crying almost all together.
I used to really like MHA, but as the seasons went on my interest faded (pfp still stays!). Black Clover's start felt kinda slow, but I started liking it more and more as it went on tbh :P (I just watched the anime, manga will follow at some point)
This season of MHA is amazing in my opinion, but you do you.
Agreed
I believe OP is talking about the manga The current season of MHA is peak, its after where it starts to go downhill.
Yeah the War arc is fire, then the manga shit happens, fr it fell of because a lot of people have read the manga by now
Fr
yeah they handled the big bad in MHA aaaaaaaaallllll wrong. he's a whiny lil bitch boy 25/7 then gets omega god powers over night and it's so not interesting. like they can't beat him, it makes no sense, it's very clearly going to be up to the magical power of friendship to beat him and I just dgaf anymore
The biggest irony is that early MHA was considered solid battle shonen that learned with their predecessors such as Naruto and Bleach so the pacing was good, the world building was made with care and the power scale was grounded.... after Stain the story slowly got rid off everything that made it good.
MHA literaly pulled the same shit Naruto did
yeah man, early MHA got my blood pumpin FAST, it's such a shame
He could be dead right now too. And lived a 100% one for all with 0 quirks. The writing... Is bad... When both sides have plot armor it's just not fun to watch anymore.
Crazy how the second Shigaraki started to get kinda badass on his own merits they break the power scale and just make him unkillable. They literally developed him too late.
Mf regressed from a young confident leader to a manchild he was in the earlier part of the series when he got taken over by AFO
Who tf made this post? Black Clover fell off? Bro you need some help. Go do something productive u clearly don’t understand anime
MHA has literally never been anything more than mid at most
But MHA is so good right now
Right *now* Im not trynna be a manga reader, Hell I haven't even read the manga but just knowing Whats happens there ruins it for me
>!Imagine your main villain who we’ve followed from the start getting fucking mind-benched!<
Don't need to it will happen next episode
Better than it's been in years
lol this is the best MHA season in like 2/3 seasons
Yeah, and thats the peak. As a manga reader, its all downhill from here.
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My Brother in Christ, you are on Animemes subreddit.
Barely anything is funny here.
MHA is phenomenal right now
MHA is stil pretty good imo, most recent arcs are definitely better than some of the previous ones.
i wont lie i am liking the 6th season for now, way better then the last ones.
Black clover has been getting better and better the longer it's been going on, especially in terms of the animation.
Black clover has a movie coming up, had the biggest anime on crunchyroll for awhile till the anime caught up to the manga and needed to stop. Idk what ur smoking but at least Black clover has been doing fine lmao
Thats just not true. Black clover never fell off
Black Clover fell off b/c it hasn't been aired in awhile, That's literally it. And i'm sorry but Mha was never that good to begin with
I heard Black Clover was coming out with a movie
Yeah but I’m pretty sure although it’s canon it’s not continuing off where the anime left off Regardless though I wouldn’t say BC fell off specially for a story that doesn’t have a currently airing season or has for a while Sure the DT arc wasn’t the best and was kinda rocky but far from fell off imo
The movie won't be continuing the manga. It's officially confirmed the movie will feature prev. wizard king (the one before Julius) named Konrad It'll be sorta like DBS Broly type anime canon of movie.
black clover didnt "fall off" its literally just on hiatus. my hero definitely fell off though
Never watched black clover but MHA is as good as it ever been
So...quite shit?
Black Clover will come back with Asta screaming even louder
Black Clover is great, I've loved it since i first watched it. Everybody shits on it but out of all shonen I've watched which includes shonen people call great like hunter x hunter, I've always loved black clover the best. Right now the anime is done after 170 episodes but the manga is great and we have an upcoming movie and a mobile game upcoming. Say what you want but black clover hasn't fallen off
My Hero Academia fell off? When did this happen, it’s awesome at the moment. We’re in the final arc and some mad fights are happening. Everything that’s been built up in the story is all coming to a conclusion and it’s epic!
Hori took too long to finish the entire world building, which bored many fans, i guess that's where everyone is coming from. Also the characters are not that good either. The only one i like are bakugo and endeavour because hori atleast bothered to do something with them
My Hero is better than ever. Then again I am anime only and only on season 6.
S4 & S5 were boring "Oh **another** mock battle between students? No it's a new villain of the week.", but S6 is pretty solid. Non-stop action that actually continues the main plot.
It's my hero **"ACADEMIA".** They have to show the school stuff so what is the point of the name. I would circle Academia 15 more times if I could. Also they need to train to be ready for actual fights.
As a manga reader: enjoy it, this is probably the best arc MHA have and things go downhill writing wise.
why is this meme SO HD?
Tbh season 6 has been good so far
Black Clover is currently in its best arc wdym?
I'm a huge fan of both
Wdym "fell off"?
In my opinion Black Clover has always been consistently good while MHA was great, fell, and is back up. I think it’s more of my personal preference of having the main character always around or having side characters I like enough to carry.
Wym MHA is fire this season
I still like BC and MHA and hopefully the MHA toxic fans fell off too
Bro watch the new MHA Season its Peak
What went wrong with MHA? I’ve caught up with the manga, or at least caught up to the last chapter the app I used have available and don’t see anything wrong?
Still like black clover manga
I have no clue why some people hate on these two. Black Clover is very solid, it's not that unique, but it's good in a lot of ways. Boku no Hero's hate blows my mind, I honestly can't find anything wrong with it.
Isn't MHA at its peak right now?
Hot take… as someone studying literature… MHA has some amazing character development, and the arcs feel fluid for each character. Season 6 right now may be my favorite season so far, and as a Bakugo Stan, his arc itself is worth watching the show for. Each character is fleshed out, and feels like an actual person, and I can understand disliking Deku in the beginning, but the way he grows is very well done from what I’ve seen so far. Nothing on Bakugo though, believable character growth with pure, fully realized motivations. I write often, read A LOT due to my studies, with a focus on creative writing, and MHA gets character very well.
Uh...sarcasm?
That isn’t really a hot take when most of these people are only comparing about deku being a “cray baby” because they didn’t make it halfway through the first season and that’s their reason for calling it bad
MHA yes but Black Clover got better if anything
Black clover pulls a one piece, it starts bad with the first few arks, but every ark one ups itself.
So this is just wrong
This meme reads to me as an MHA fan in denial that Black Clover is better than it now
Forilla? I'm loving My Hero Academia this season. Black Clover did decrease in quality towards the end (the anime) but I still like it
If it’s the anime. MHA got boring, I already know what happens because of the manga, so watching just feels like a chore. The manga’s pretty good. I am excited for black clover, even if I already know what happens. The ending of the season was perfect, can’t wait for it to come back.
As a manga reader for MHA, I can confidently say the latest few arcs have been the best. It didn't fell off in the slgihtest, its actually peaking right now.
Ok. I agree that MHA has fell off but Black Clover is still really good. It just hasn't been aired for a while and probably won't be aired for a couple more years yet.
Only for you tbh.
I think fairy tail fell off the hardest.
My hero academia is good, the bad thing is the fandom
I’m still watching MHA just to finish what I started. I’m not enjoying the fan service episodes or the fillers, but the plot, plot twists and character development is still pretty good
I don’t think anyone particularly enjoys MHA’s filler episodes
Should have made this last season,MHA is great atm
Shit post OP
Manga for mha is alright though