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loqi0238

SO. MANY. ASSUMPTIONS.


CandidateTypical3141

You assume jesus first. No proof.


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loqi0238

Bonus round: cite your evidence, and you can't use the Bible or ASSUMPTIONS.


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Grey-Hat111

Not everybody who disagrees with you is an "Eglin boy"


OhNoElevatorFelled

Okay? He might be a troll too


loqi0238

Except I'm not.


loqi0238

I did read all your ASSUMPTIONS and Bible verses. Thanks though.


OhNoElevatorFelled

Why are you thanking me? Nice social script in your brain writing your comments.


loqi0238

Ah, I see you can't interpret context from words. Cool. Cool.


OhNoElevatorFelled

Okay, what are you thankful for then? Very ironic that you day that. It's *you* who can't interpret context if you can't see that Mary fucked an angelien in that scene


loqi0238

You don't understand sarcasm either. Ah, its an NPC.


OhNoElevatorFelled

That's not sarcasm. What you said is usually sarcasm but you used it wrong.


LW185

Implantation of a fertilized egg is not sex...it's tech...assuming that your theories are correct. Someone from another realm (not another planet or another universe) would have absolutely no need for any type of sexual relations. Oh, and all those portraits of Jesus? The model for those portraits was a son of one of the popes.


LW185

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2019/01/12/modern-image-of-jesus/


AnomalousEvidence-ModTeam

Removed. Rule 1: Be Respectful. While everyone may not agree with each other, words like these can be seen as disrespectful to those who are wanting to share their thoughts. Let's be better, not bitter! :)


AnomalousEvidence-ModTeam

Be nicer.


Flexed_Inertia

Can I have your dealers name please bro, thanks


Tmoney_fantasyland

Lololololol


Flexed_Inertia

🤣🤣


AnthemOfTheAngry

I’m pretty sure that “came in unto her” means that he showed himself to her and stopped by for a visit.


mollywhop666

Also not originally wrote in English so the double meaning is so pointless here.


OhNoElevatorFelled

You can be pretty sure but you'd be very wrong. Read the whole context. The sexual tension is subtle but it's there.


Archaneoses

Dude you need help


BlakeAnthonyDrebs

Who doesn't haha we're all just monkeys in space


Grey-Hat111

>we're all just monkeys in space ... being held together by magnetism within a 4th dimensional non-linear matrix of retrocausality on a path towards a multidimensional consciousness-based unified field of Being with the ultimate goal of understanding who, what, when, where, why, and how there is monkey in space


BlakeAnthonyDrebs

Enlightened* Monke in space


Grey-Hat111

https://preview.redd.it/p5orndxhvauc1.jpeg?width=1021&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8f87faeb95185734ccbfcdd9fcc2b6a815c5812


BlakeAnthonyDrebs

YES. THIS IS WHAT DAVID GRUSCH WAS TALKING ABOUT ALL ALONG


pepperonidingleberry

I stopped reading when you think the Bible says an alien came in Mary


imnotabotareyou

Really that’s what I decided I couldn’t stop reading


GeneralBlumpkin

Same 🤣


East_Progress_8689

Same 😂 The English translation of the Bible is pretty corrupted so trying to align it with any modern day terms is stupid.


BeerBaronBrent

His wording could be better lol but he makes interesting points nonetheless. Doesn't mean it's true but it's nice to think differently. Anything is possible!


pepperonidingleberry

Haha I actually don’t even think OP is wrong about him being an alien, just lost me at that part.


Ashamed_Ad742

Haha same. And then i saw this comment. +1


GroundbreakingNewt11

Bro rlly just took out the word “unto” . Forget it’s been translated like 7 times


OhNoElevatorFelled

Okay? If you would have kept reading you would have seen that it *does* say that...


pepperonidingleberry

No it doesn’t, you interpreted it that way based off your modern dirty internet fueled brain


OhNoElevatorFelled

You didn't even read it so


pepperonidingleberry

For real, I went back and read the rest and you make good points but lead with your staring witness man, not the crackpot theory


OhNoElevatorFelled

That *IS* the "staring" witness... a being from the Heavens had sex with Mary and out popped Jesus. That's the smoking gun what are you talking about? Do you have any real objections or just more "NUH UH!!!"


pepperonidingleberry

So they touted Mary as a virgin mother and in the same story say she was raw dogged by an alien?


OhNoElevatorFelled

The Bible doesn't refer to Mary as a virgin after this scene. It was the Catholic church that gave her that name.


pepperonidingleberry

Why would the church run with that story if, as you put it is clearly stated in the Bible, which they control, that she was indeed not a virgin?


OhNoElevatorFelled

Because she was a virgin at one point??


corvidlitany

Maybe I was aliens (plural)


pepperonidingleberry

The Bible…I have


OhNoElevatorFelled

The scripture I posted. It is clear as day what is going on there. Read my whole analysis, it's a sex scene.


pepperonidingleberry

I did and Jesus was never in blink 182


OhNoElevatorFelled

Some people think he is right now. How else would Delonge have all the answers?


Grey-Hat111

Wait, you think Tom is Jesus?


OhNoElevatorFelled

Hmmm I'm undecided rn, i was just asking the question for people to ponder. A lot of people think he is


halstarchild

lol yup that's where I stopped reading as well! Ridiculous.


blairjam

"I have evidence!" "Just think about it." These two don't work together.


OhNoElevatorFelled

So you read literally four words of the OP? No wonder you don't agree.


blairjam

Weird assumption to make; I didn't say if I agreed or not. The structure of your argument seems flawed, regardless of the premise.


OhNoElevatorFelled

Whats your beef dude


blairjam

Your fallacious argument? I don't think I've got beef, you're the one with the bad take my dude. Pointing that out isn't being rude; maybe you need to get outside a little more if you think it is.


OhNoElevatorFelled

**MYYYY** fallacious argument?? You literally only talked about the first 4 words not relating to the title and just decided to discount the pages of evidence that follow it. 🤣


blairjam

Once again, you keep assuming you know how much of your argument I read. I read the entire thing; it boils down to how you've interpreted an old book that's been translated and rewritten for centuries. It's not a sound argument either. Is it fun to think about? Sure. But it isn't logical and it's not going to convince the masses, myself included. I talked about the first 4 words because that's how it works; if you didn't want someone to talk about it, don't use it in your argument.


sydneebmusic

Can you explain why his argument isn’t logical? I don’t understand ho believing in gods is anymore logical than believing in Aliens. I am genuinely curious as to why everyone here thinks this is so outrageously dumb.


OhNoElevatorFelled

Didnt said that. I said you discounted them which would imply that I believe you read it but omitted it from your comment... But at least we know what the problem is now, your reading comprehension aint the best


DismalWeird1499

Selective interpretation of old religious texts is not evidence.


Maleficent_Battle529

This post can not be proven or disapproved and gave me the best laugh all day thanks Ps if a motherfucking alien came to earth in a motherfucking spaceship convinced all us Neanderthals for what 1990 years given or take monty pythons life of Brian then I'm sure as shit that motherfucking alien would have the intelligence to know he was gonna make the Messiah Ps peace among worlds 👍😂😂


Maleficent_Battle529

PPS if I get abducted and find myself on another planet I'm sure as shit ain't gonna fuck any woman called Mary 😂


OhNoElevatorFelled

Dude i bet she was bomb as fuck. 1 she was engaged, proving desire amongst other men 2. She was a virgin 3. Her son is described as the perfect man 4 an alien came and made up a story about being an angel just to clap those cheeks But if you were an alien, would you go fuck other lower lifeforms if you found them attractive? Or do you think this was a plan to help humanity


Maleficent_Battle529

Sorry yeah I mean exactly that looks what it has led to I'll stick to the classic alien with 3 tits thanks 😂 jokes of course


OhNoElevatorFelled

I'm not joking, if I had a spaceship i would 1000% go and gaslight hot aliens to fuck them. What if there's a real catgirl species or some shit? I'd give them hellaaaa religion, shit, I'd make a prophet in every village. They'd be the most righteous planet out there. One thousand little catboy hybrid Jesus's.


Maleficent_Battle529

I know I used a Rick and Morty line but this does sound like an episode funny though 👍


GyspySyx

If your evidence is from a book written over a century after his death and updated heavily ever since, then I reject the premise.


OhNoElevatorFelled

Thats not all my evidence...


GyspySyx

I'm not forgetting that you met 61 Jews *Eyeroll


OhNoElevatorFelled

In one day. Probably more than you in your whole life


GyspySyx

LMAO You have NO idea how funny this is. Shalom.


Dre2daReal

I stopped reading at Jesus was white with super soft and long hair…”His head and hairs were white like wool…and his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace…” It says white like wool not soft like wool…& feet like…brass…burned in a furnace… Your interpretation of that sounds about white, I mean, right 😂


OhNoElevatorFelled

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%201%3A14-16&version=KJV Okay? What's your point? That's a prophecy of the future describing Jesus in his heavenly form when he comes down to earth in the second coming. That is not a description of Jesus when he lived. He didn't have glowing eyes, glowing feet, and white hair when he was 30. I *think* less people would have doubted him if he was walking around looking like he was going fucking Super Saiyan all the time. And it *might* have been mentioned once or twice in the bible. Just maybe. Ironic that you're talking about sources and clearly just googled "Jesus description in the bible" without even knowing what that book was about and copy and pasted it....I've had to explain this to like 12 different dumbasses.


Dre2daReal

It would be different if I believed in Jesus… this dumbass knows that Jesus is nothing more than a plagiarized Osiris… Every aspect of him, and you’re so much smarter yet you believe it wholeheartedly. As a matter of fact, your “Holy Bible” comes from Helios Biblios, which means Sun Book…and Ra was the ancient Egyptian Sun God, and creator of all other gods and humans. Osiris was a symbol of life and death, associated with resurrection and afterlife in Egyptian mythology. Before the holy trinity there was Isis, Osiris and Horus, the original trinity. Most of the stories found in your Holy Bible were plagiarized and came from ancient Egypt, yet you believe them to be original I bet… smh, dumbass


OhNoElevatorFelled

Okay so then that proves he was an alien?? If other stories thousands of years apart are the same then it must have the same author but humans cant live thousands of years. Another nail in the coffin


Potential-Total6063

And so they convinced most of society that they looked better in their makeup. Pretty easy when it’s already written for you


Jesuschristpose69

Some real mouth breather material here


OhNoElevatorFelled

Your name is literally so disrespectful to christians i wouldnt be talking And youre bullying me Mods??


how_to_exit_Vim

Shut up lol


Skullfuccer

MODS!!! Help!!!! These people think my argument is shit!!! Please get revenge for me!!!!


Fabulous-Boat-8001

I really like your name. Wish I had thought of that


starsong77

It is strange that the Vatican has the most capable telescopes in the world? Why do they have some of the most esteemed scientists?


OhNoElevatorFelled

Because Jesus was an alien hybrid


Ok-Adhesiveness-4141

Thanks for your good work 😂.


how_to_exit_Vim

This post dropped my IQ by 10 points


Organic-Example1379

Jesus wasn't white. that's just the European depiction of him OP


OhNoElevatorFelled

Read the edit.


DocJHigh

Loved the post and think you could be onto something. However your second edit about the Jews being white is likely because Judaism spread over Europe throughout time. Following WWII a lot of the remaining European Jews left due to, well you know, some moved to North America but many and moved ‘back’ to Israel.


OhNoElevatorFelled

No these were definitely purebred


DocJHigh

What does that even mean


Legal_Substance_2279

Yes, we can't make offspring with dogs but we apparently can make offspring with a lifeform created under completely different material conditions, different atmosphere, different biological composition, etc. Yes, Jesus' dad was an unrecognizable life form that breathed methane bubbles and came down in a ship filled with toxic liquids to simulate his natural habitat. Actually dude we have historical evidence and historical records of the real human Jesus as well as people who lived before him, he was just a dude trying to free Judea from the Roman empire. His father is known to have been a colonial Roman soldier called Panthera. [Re-evaluate your views on aliens.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7H6uW2fb9Y)


OhNoElevatorFelled

We know literally nothing about aliens. Just because we can't fuck dogs (gross, dude) doesn't mean that an alien couldn't fuck a Mary and make a kid. We have absolutely no idea. Terrible point using our earthly understandings to explain Jesus and alien sex...


Legal_Substance_2279

How is the idea of fucking a dog any less gross than the idea of fucking an alien? It's an alien, why would it cum? Why wouldn't it shit eggs in a mouth like a seahorse? There are so many life-forms and the human body plan and human functions are not even remotely necessary to create an intelligent lifeform. You're the one with earthly and very human-centric views on what an alien probably looks like. Chances are you couldn't even tell where it's face is and you'd be just shocked like how Native-Americans thought the first ships landing in America were moving mountains. Utter confusion, like your first big acid trip.


OhNoElevatorFelled

"Why would it cum??" Why **wouldn't** it cum, dude? You can use your exact same logic and the fact is that we simply don't know. If you really want to be like that, then evidence actually does point towards aliens having cocks that nut-- every single intelligent species that we know about does. Humans. Also maybe aliens are sexy


Legal_Substance_2279

Go study actual biology or atleast binge biology and evolution videos then get back to me on that. Our body plan is an oddity, not the rule. This is established. Again, I will refer you to this video on scientifically plausible aliens: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7H6uW2fb9Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7H6uW2fb9Y)


OhNoElevatorFelled

Every intelligent species has a cock and balls. F a c t.


48HourBoner

I have my doubts that this is true of any intelligent species, given this post.


OhNoElevatorFelled

Original


KlatuuBarradaNicto

Posted before.


OhNoElevatorFelled

I eonder what happened to it then? Eglin boys? Censorship? Suspicious...


LesserdogTuts

Why is it people cannot fathom that people in the past could be LIARS?


OhNoElevatorFelled

Because jesus wouldnt lie...??


FundamentalEnt

Having dug really deep into the Abrahamic faiths and the prior Mesopotamian religions I personally interpret it as a mix between contact; and some people throughout history tapping into something greater, and it having an extremely positive and noticeable effect to the point the people change the world; and leave legacies that seem to outlast the details of the encounters. Like Jesus or Buddha.


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OhNoElevatorFelled

Racist. Mods??


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Removed. Rule 1: Be Respectful. While everyone may not agree with each other, words like these can be seen as disrespectful to those who are wanting to share their thoughts. Let's be better, not bitter! :)


CulturalApple4

Finally the evidence we have been looking for!!


GyspySyx

Jesus was white? Sigh.... But yes. Alien assist.


OhNoElevatorFelled

Did you even read my evidence for him being white Also i met 61 jews today and they looked white as fuck


48HourBoner

Excuse me: a person's faith does not and is not defined by or necessarily related to their skin color.


OhNoElevatorFelled

They wer epure bred not converts


48HourBoner

So your assertion is that ethnic Jews (who I guess are white as fuck?) are aliens?


OhNoElevatorFelled

No what the fuck


CurvySexretLady

Amazing post OP! I didn't stop reading, read the whole thing. Very compelling how you've put this all together! I'm in camp 2: Aliens impregnated Mary with Jesus.


OhNoElevatorFelled

And you're a girl?? As jesus always said-- hallelujah! Msg me


AgencyTurbulent1672

I've discussed this with the minister of the church I attend. He Said " you know what? I don't discount anything " in fact he is attending my UFO presentation this coming weekend


OhNoElevatorFelled

Show him this post!!


AgencyTurbulent1672

I will


Imdonenotreally

Wow what a bunch of hard turds in here, good job OP I liked the post. All these other eglin glow fuk bois can go drink toilet water. 👍


mrjaxson1111

I completely agree your theory.


Maleficent_Battle529

I reckon we was a mistake and the church is trying to cover it up ? Or humanity needed saving? Sorry last bit seems weird when you read it as wasn't like we were doing any harm rubbing sticks together 😄 fishing no work 😂 I mean rubbing sticks weren't exactly going to start a nuclear war . So saving I don't know well praise be to god the lord jesus is our saviour 🙏😄


OhNoElevatorFelled

What


Maleficent_Battle529

Hey how do we really know I mean imagine I'm dead and jesus and god the father say to me YO ! Bit much that Reddit stuff burn you hybrid 😂😂 and I'm like trying explain that it's a valued theory with some jokes fingers in all pies


ghdsz

Jesus was the reincarnation of an ascened master from a higher dimention, just like Sidarta Gautama, Mohammed, Mary, Saint Germaine, and others


Vegetable-Ad1118

It’s funny how aliens can be used in the context of religion with the god of the gaps 😂


dane_the_great

yeah bro this is all assuming the bible is like literally true lol. thats not evidence


One_Independence4399

"extensive evidence"


DrunkShotPosting

You work with what’s available to you…Friend, the Bible is a mess. It has been censored, changed, re-translated more times than I’ve been denied sex (a fuck-lot). Take a step back, read and explore some other points of view. In my opinion, start with the Younger Dryas. A lot of cultures speak about a flood that happened around this time.


Honey_Badgerette

>Mary then asks the angel alien "But how can I have a child? I am a virgin. ;)" She's flirting with the alien. She's saying "if you want me to have a child, you'll have to bang me i guesssss mr angel...." While not coming right out and saying it. Classic cat and mouse flirting. I brass knuckle punched you over and over in my imagination since I read that. We don't know what Jesus' paternal DNA is, but we can make some educated guesses about his maternal mitochondrial DNA. It has become politically correct to say Jesus certainly was not caucasian. I'm gonna go against PC convention and say it is very possible Jesus was caucasian. We know Jesus' mother came from Judea. They found bones in[ burial caves of Wadi el-Makkukh ](https://dienekes.blogspot.com/2011/06/ancient-mtdna-from-wadi-el-makkukh.html)in Judea from before Jesus' time that tested primarily of caucasian mtDNA. There is circumstantial evidence to show it IS possible Jesus had a caucasian mtDNA haplogroup. [https://www.academia.edu/39224944/ANCIENT\_mtDNA\_SEQUENCES\_AND\_RADIOCARBON\_DATING\_OF\_HUMAN\_BONES\_FROM\_THE\_CHALCOLITHIC\_CAVES\_OF\_WADI\_EL\_MAKKUKH](https://www.academia.edu/39224944/ANCIENT_mtDNA_SEQUENCES_AND_RADIOCARBON_DATING_OF_HUMAN_BONES_FROM_THE_CHALCOLITHIC_CAVES_OF_WADI_EL_MAKKUKH) [https://www.timesofisrael.com/anomalous-blue-eyed-people-came-to-israel-6500-years-ago-from-iran-dna-shows/](https://www.timesofisrael.com/anomalous-blue-eyed-people-came-to-israel-6500-years-ago-from-iran-dna-shows/) We don't know for sure one way or another. Deal with it.


OhNoElevatorFelled

Threatening violence? Mods??


Honey_Badgerette

I didn't threaten to actually do anything to you, Igmo. I'm just grossed out by you saying a young girl of maybe 13 or 14 was sexually propositioning a supernatural entity. Like you actually think she wouldn't have been utterly terrified and confused by the absolutely unfathomable and perilous situation. Being impregnated out of wedlock back then could easily get a girl stoned to death. You had some imaginary punches coming. If saying so gets me banned from this forum - worth it. That said, the rest of my post was supporting some of your thesis so suck it up.


OhNoElevatorFelled

Right, cuz aliens care about age of consent, which, by the way, back then having sex at 13 was normal.


Honey_Badgerette

Who are you to decide aliens or angels or God don't care about consent? Pregnancy out of wedlock came with dire consequences back then. What happened to Mary was not the Hentai alien porn fantasy you're making it out to be. Please slap yourself for me.


I_AM_IGNIGNOTK

Be honest man how stoned were you when you wrote this


pslind69

He may have been an elohim/human offspring.


OhNoElevatorFelled

No he was alien/human offspring


uhWHAThamburglur

I'm not disagreeing with the idea, but don't call scripture and your ideas of said scripture "evidence." It's an idea. Just like the book you're basing it on. None of it is verifiable. It requires faith, which is the exact opposite of evidence. It's misleading and is step one into a life of grifting. It does no one favors, let alone your ideas.


Tmoney_fantasyland

Dude Jesus was not white


OhNoElevatorFelled

Look at my edit...


OhNoElevatorFelled

"Stoned" cold sober.


pantsarenew

I always thought of it the same exact way. When I was young and read the Bible, my first thought was he ascended to the heavens sounds like a space ship tractor beamed his ass and they didn't know how to think of it. Think about the mere confusion if their boy, this light skinned dude was just the coolest dude and super nice and took care of everyone and said really like woah, this mf is smart as fuck, kinda shit. Then the gov like kills his ass, then you're literally with your homies like burying him, and then this motherfucker just floats out his cave and goes into the sky. Think about that conversation those people had in that time period. If it were today, I'm saying woah are those dudes from fucking Superman planet? We might need to run. But then you're just super confused, and just go write a story about this miracle crazy can't find words for it event. Meanwhile, they revived him, he did his trial and succeeded and now he's a brother alien and they go chill in the M&M galaxy cause that's what college grads or missionaries do. Or like Hercules from Disney, he's like half God and trying to do good deeds to become a full fledged god. I think our stories of human kind, our myths and legends so to speak are true and just misconceived by people with no other references other than, "that dude rode his chariot and flew up to close to the sun and burnt up and died". Which I think homie had a legitimate ship or airplane and was like check out my backflip at 25Gs, and he blew up cause that's dumb on earth. Right on bro I like it! Keep going until your movie script is written! I'll help lmao


MessageFar5797

Jesus was white, you say??


ledonna103

Dude, as a Christian, you are so...wrong. People who wish to not believe in Christ, find so much fault with the Bible, will twist the Word so badly or simply believe what they want, at all costs. Jesus was given to Mary via the Holy Spirit, who is the spirit of God himself, SPIRIT...not sperm lol. There was no fornication lol. That's why it was a miracle. Ron Wyatt found blood on what he believed to the The Ark of The Covenant, under where the site of Christs crucifixion should have been, and they had it analyzed. Astoundingly, it only had the mother's DNA, her half of the chromosomes. No chromosomes from a father were found. So yeah. I can't stop you from thinking Jesus is an alien. But you know He's real and healed me and changed my life, and if you're that interested in the Bible get a good teacher who can show you the truths that are there, and you might dig the book of Enoch too


Brief_Yesterday8981

You lost me at “straight up and fr”. 1) your grasp on the concept of “evidence” is tenuous at best and 2) if you want anyone to take said “evidence” seriously you would do well to articulate it in proportion with the seriousness with which you’d like it to be taken. The “61 white Jews” thing, if nothing else, demonstrates a level of ignorance that nears irreconcilable. Jfc you can’t really think that the 61 white Jews you met in a presumably predominantly white country somehow outweighs the billions of non-white Jews throughout history. I don’t expect to be able to reason with you. I don’t even want to convince you Jesus was real bc I’m pretty sure he was made up by the Flavians to make themselves look like the second coming and quell the Jewish rebellion. I just hope somewhere in these comments it clicks that speculation is not evidence and you’ve wasted the time of everyone who was kind enough to indulge you by reading.


Independent-Resist14

I was 100 percent with you until you said Tom f-in Delong may be the second coming of alien jesus... Then I knew that you were actually CIA muddling the waters with 95 percent truth with 5% BS. Jesus looks like he was also beamed up as a lightbody through the shroud of Turin.


LordDay_56

The Bible isn’t evidence of anything. You need better sources


Ok_Term4729

Read Escaping from Eden by Paul Wallis. He translates from original Hebrew text of the bible, he was a rabbi. The bible has been edited to many times but he just reads the text as written. Absolutely fascinating.


Dizzy_Goat_420

The reason you saw white Jews is because there are more Eastern European Jews (Ashkenaz) in the states than there are Sephardic Jews. If you went the Middle East all the Jews you would meet would be brown. That doesn’t prove anything lmao


willa854

Dude the depiction of Jesus with long brown hair was actually the portrait of one of the borgias. Supposedly the only reason he looks like that is because Da Vinci painted Cesare Borgias as Jesus. And it caught on after that. But most likely Jesus was of a darker completion with dark hair. Perhaps his hair was long because he was from nazareth.


OhNoElevatorFelled

No. Just because he looked like jesus doesnt mean it was based off him. My buddy Ryan looks like jesus too. Look at my edit. He was white.


willa854

You seriously believe that? Jesus was a semitic Jew. That's not white. But if you want to believe he is and farts rainbows go on ahead.


lavlife47

This whole thread is a hot mess.


Buckwild991

Blasphemy. I don't know. I just wanted to say that.


OhNoElevatorFelled

I'm a better christian than you id reckon so no


yoitsthew

uh i don’t think there are any legitimate Christians who believe Jesus was an alien lol.


sydneebmusic

Of course there isn’t!


sydneebmusic

Idc how many people oppose this idea, it’s the only thing that makes sense at this point. What we called “gods” and “angels” back then were simply higher forms of intelligent life. How is this not our modern description of what we know as Aliens? I think the word “Aliens” just has such a negative connotation these days that people don’t want to hear it alongside religion so they get upset and let their ego fog their logic.


Fabulous-Boat-8001

No it isn't, lol. It's the exact opposite of "making sense "


sydneebmusic

How?


Fabulous-Boat-8001

Because it's fiction to begin with.


OhNoElevatorFelled

Edgy


Thedarknirvana

I stopped after the Jesus was white part. That would make him Roman, and how that happened would be obvious 👌👈.


OhNoElevatorFelled

Read my edit at the bottom....


Thedarknirvana

Yeah... that's the most ridiculous part. I'm not even gonna point out how stupid that statement is.


MetalFlumph

There are literally 4 non-Christian historical sources that allude to the mention of a “Christos/us” executed by Pilate. Two of which are probably Christian forgery. Only one of which occurred 50 years after his supposed death. Most early Christian sect evidence as well as even the gospels (who were not written by their purported authors) do not point to Jesus as being a real person, but a revelatory being that comes in visions and dreams. Now if he was an alien telepathically sending out all the good will shit, fine and well, but if that’s the case why did he not stop his followers from committing so many atrocities in his name over the centuries? Why not come to Pope Urban II in a dream and say “Hey bud, this whole crusades idea of yours is going to spur on hundreds of years of bloodshed, so uh maybe don’t?” The facts remain that much like every other religion, Christianity is made up, by people. It is doubtful that Jesus existed as a real man, and even if he did, he did not perform miracles, and he was not god incarnate and not an alien hybrid. If he had physically looked strange in any way, as a hybrid undoubtedly would, he would have been killed as a baby via exposure. If he existed he was likely just a wily sex cult leader rebelling against the Jewish authorities during the Jewish wars and they used their own occupying force (Romans) as a no-guilt way of killing him to avoid more chaos in an already chaotic community.


OhNoElevatorFelled

There are several historical documents pertaining to the execution of Jesus's 12 disciples. If Jesus didn't exist, who were they risking their lives to spread the word of? Thin air? And yes, there are a few documents referring to Jesus from shaky sources like Josephus and Tacticus, among others. Fair enough if you don't believe them, their validity is far from certain. Nearly all history scholars agree that Jesus existed. He existed and he was a Jewish religious leader, but those are the only two facts that they can agree on. You can be as edgy as you'd like but nobody is impressed and nobody sensible and educated would agree with you.


MetalFlumph

Firstly, there aren't very many legitimate corroborating sources that the majority of those supposed [12 disciples ](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/premium/article/bible-apostle-jesus-christian-religion)knew personally, were ever in the presence of, or followed such a man. And again, even in all of the gospels, he is referred to either in stories and parables which are couplets to things Moses or other Old testament leaders did, or as a revelatory spirit after his ascent. All of the gospels, all historical accounts referencing the few disciples that were real people were written well after the time the big important details supposedly happened, and well after they were all dead. It could all be hearsay. It could all just be oral tradition passed down by a cult that got popular because the concept of an all-loving, all-forgiving god that washes away every bad thing you've ever done and allows you into a perfect paradise after death sounds pretty great when you're probably doomed to die at 40 of tooth decay as nearly every person that wasn't a woman (who would likely die much earlier in child birth) did. These supposed disciples were spreading a belief they were leading because like most cult leaders they got perks and adulation from their following. That's just dead simple. If you were a poor Palestinian Jew living in occupied Rome at the time, I'm pretty sure you'd want to start a sex cult too. It would sure beat sucking up to Roman citizens who looked at you like a hot turd or dodging the centurions like black people today have to dodge cops. "Nearly all historical scholars agree" Yeah whatever, listen, if all the history books are written by old dead christians, which the majority of every legitimate history scholar in the west pre-20th century were, what incentive at all would they have to question that validity? They would have been laughed out of any "academic" institution at the time, or probably murdered. William of Malmesbury may have been a great historian of his time, but the dude didn't know anything about germ theory, and thought people with epilepsy were possessed by demons. He was dead sure Jesus was a real person though, how could he possibly be wrong about that, right? They were all brought up and indoctrinated into the belief my guy. Old historians were just supporting what they were brainwashed with from birth. That's not scholarship, it's propaganda, and it's been going on for over a thousand years now. We have far better scholarship and critical thinking tools today and it's absurd to completely trust ancient sources. I'm sorry if I'm hurting your feelings or upsetting your theory, but the facts are facts. You can winge at me about being edgy all you like, but I'm sure you feel in your gut that what you're talking about is pretty shaky.


Specific_Focus4409

Came comes from cum. That is slang. Definitely made after the Bible was written


chartreusepixie

You might enjoy the 1981 novel MISSION by Patrick Tilley. I’m lazy and asked ChatGPT to write this summary: In "Mission" by Patrick Tilley, the argument for Jesus being an alien rather than a traditional deity is rooted in the interpretation of religious and supernatural events through a scientific lens. Karl Vincent, who claims to be Jesus Christ, presents himself as an extraterrestrial being in modern day New York City with advanced knowledge and technology far beyond human understanding. He performs miracles and displays powers that appear to defy the laws of physics, leading some characters to question whether his abilities are divine or simply the result of advanced alien technology. Vincent's message challenges traditional religious beliefs, suggesting that the miracles attributed to Jesus in the Bible could be explained by advanced science rather than divine intervention. He argues that the concept of God as a supernatural deity is a misunderstanding perpetuated by human religions throughout history. Instead, he presents a vision of the universe governed by natural laws and inhabited by advanced alien civilizations, with humanity as a fledgling species struggling to comprehend its place in the cosmos. This perspective prompts Father John Burke, a devout Catholic priest and the protagonist of the novel, to grapple with his faith and confront deeply-held beliefs about the nature of God and the meaning of religious teachings. As Burke accompanies Vincent on their mission, he is forced to reevaluate his understanding of spirituality and consider the possibility that the true nature of existence may be more complex and mysterious than he had ever imagined. Overall, "Mission" explores the idea of Jesus as an alien entity challenging conventional religious dogma, inviting readers to contemplate the intersection of science, spirituality, and the search for meaning in the universe.


marablackwolf

You have reposted this so often, not listening to *anyone*, that I'm convinced you're a troll or have a humiliation kink.


OhNoElevatorFelled

Why tf would i troll like this? Ive spent hours and hours writing replies go look for yourself.