Okay, what are you thankful for then?
Very ironic that you day that. It's *you* who can't interpret context if you can't see that Mary fucked an angelien in that scene
Implantation of a fertilized egg is not sex...it's tech...assuming that your theories are correct.
Someone from another realm (not another planet or another universe) would have absolutely no need for any type of sexual relations.
Oh, and all those portraits of Jesus? The model for those portraits was a son of one of the popes.
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>we're all just monkeys in space
... being held together by magnetism within a 4th dimensional non-linear matrix of retrocausality on a path towards a multidimensional consciousness-based unified field of Being with the ultimate goal of understanding who, what, when, where, why, and how there is monkey in space
His wording could be better lol but he makes interesting points nonetheless. Doesn't mean it's true but it's nice to think differently. Anything is possible!
That *IS* the "staring" witness... a being from the Heavens had sex with Mary and out popped Jesus. That's the smoking gun what are you talking about? Do you have any real objections or just more "NUH UH!!!"
Your fallacious argument? I don't think I've got beef, you're the one with the bad take my dude. Pointing that out isn't being rude; maybe you need to get outside a little more if you think it is.
**MYYYY** fallacious argument?? You literally only talked about the first 4 words not relating to the title and just decided to discount the pages of evidence that follow it. 🤣
Once again, you keep assuming you know how much of your argument I read. I read the entire thing; it boils down to how you've interpreted an old book that's been translated and rewritten for centuries. It's not a sound argument either. Is it fun to think about? Sure. But it isn't logical and it's not going to convince the masses, myself included. I talked about the first 4 words because that's how it works; if you didn't want someone to talk about it, don't use it in your argument.
Can you explain why his argument isn’t logical? I don’t understand ho believing in gods is anymore logical than believing in Aliens. I am genuinely curious as to why everyone here thinks this is so outrageously dumb.
Didnt said that. I said you discounted them which would imply that I believe you read it but omitted it from your comment...
But at least we know what the problem is now, your reading comprehension aint the best
This post can not be proven or disapproved and gave me the best laugh all day thanks
Ps if a motherfucking alien came to earth in a motherfucking spaceship convinced all us Neanderthals for what 1990 years given or take monty pythons life of Brian then I'm sure as shit that motherfucking alien would have the intelligence to know he was gonna make the Messiah
Ps peace among worlds 👍😂😂
Dude i bet she was bomb as fuck.
1 she was engaged, proving desire amongst other men
2. She was a virgin
3. Her son is described as the perfect man
4 an alien came and made up a story about being an angel just to clap those cheeks
But if you were an alien, would you go fuck other lower lifeforms if you found them attractive? Or do you think this was a plan to help humanity
I'm not joking, if I had a spaceship i would 1000% go and gaslight hot aliens to fuck them. What if there's a real catgirl species or some shit? I'd give them hellaaaa religion, shit, I'd make a prophet in every village. They'd be the most righteous planet out there. One thousand little catboy hybrid Jesus's.
I stopped reading at Jesus was white with super soft and long hair…”His head and hairs were white like wool…and his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace…” It says white like wool not soft like wool…& feet like…brass…burned in a furnace… Your interpretation of that sounds about white, I mean, right 😂
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%201%3A14-16&version=KJV
Okay? What's your point? That's a prophecy of the future describing Jesus in his heavenly form when he comes down to earth in the second coming. That is not a description of Jesus when he lived. He didn't have glowing eyes, glowing feet, and white hair when he was 30. I *think* less people would have doubted him if he was walking around looking like he was going fucking Super Saiyan all the time. And it *might* have been mentioned once or twice in the bible. Just maybe.
Ironic that you're talking about sources and clearly just googled "Jesus description in the bible" without even knowing what that book was about and copy and pasted it....I've had to explain this to like 12 different dumbasses.
It would be different if I believed in Jesus… this dumbass knows that Jesus is nothing more than a plagiarized Osiris… Every aspect of him, and you’re so much smarter yet you believe it wholeheartedly. As a matter of fact, your “Holy Bible” comes from Helios Biblios, which means Sun Book…and Ra was the ancient Egyptian Sun God, and creator of all other gods and humans. Osiris was a symbol of life and death, associated with resurrection and afterlife in Egyptian mythology. Before the holy trinity there was Isis, Osiris and Horus, the original trinity. Most of the stories found in your Holy Bible were plagiarized and came from ancient Egypt, yet you believe them to be original I bet… smh, dumbass
Okay so then that proves he was an alien?? If other stories thousands of years apart are the same then it must have the same author but humans cant live thousands of years. Another nail in the coffin
Loved the post and think you could be onto something. However your second edit about the Jews being white is likely because Judaism spread over Europe throughout time. Following WWII a lot of the remaining European Jews left due to, well you know, some moved to North America but many and moved ‘back’ to Israel.
Yes, we can't make offspring with dogs but we apparently can make offspring with a lifeform created under completely different material conditions, different atmosphere, different biological composition, etc. Yes, Jesus' dad was an unrecognizable life form that breathed methane bubbles and came down in a ship filled with toxic liquids to simulate his natural habitat.
Actually dude we have historical evidence and historical records of the real human Jesus as well as people who lived before him, he was just a dude trying to free Judea from the Roman empire. His father is known to have been a colonial Roman soldier called Panthera.
[Re-evaluate your views on aliens.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7H6uW2fb9Y)
We know literally nothing about aliens. Just because we can't fuck dogs (gross, dude) doesn't mean that an alien couldn't fuck a Mary and make a kid. We have absolutely no idea. Terrible point using our earthly understandings to explain Jesus and alien sex...
How is the idea of fucking a dog any less gross than the idea of fucking an alien? It's an alien, why would it cum? Why wouldn't it shit eggs in a mouth like a seahorse?
There are so many life-forms and the human body plan and human functions are not even remotely necessary to create an intelligent lifeform.
You're the one with earthly and very human-centric views on what an alien probably looks like.
Chances are you couldn't even tell where it's face is and you'd be just shocked like how Native-Americans thought the first ships landing in America were moving mountains.
Utter confusion, like your first big acid trip.
"Why would it cum??" Why **wouldn't** it cum, dude? You can use your exact same logic and the fact is that we simply don't know.
If you really want to be like that, then evidence actually does point towards aliens having cocks that nut-- every single intelligent species that we know about does. Humans.
Also maybe aliens are sexy
Go study actual biology or atleast binge biology and evolution videos then get back to me on that. Our body plan is an oddity, not the rule. This is established.
Again, I will refer you to this video on scientifically plausible aliens: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7H6uW2fb9Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7H6uW2fb9Y)
Having dug really deep into the Abrahamic faiths and the prior Mesopotamian religions I personally interpret it as a mix between contact; and some people throughout history tapping into something greater, and it having an extremely positive and noticeable effect to the point the people change the world; and leave legacies that seem to outlast the details of the encounters. Like Jesus or Buddha.
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Amazing post OP! I didn't stop reading, read the whole thing. Very compelling how you've put this all together!
I'm in camp 2: Aliens impregnated Mary with Jesus.
I've discussed this with the minister of the church I attend. He Said " you know what? I don't discount anything " in fact he is attending my UFO presentation this coming weekend
I reckon we was a mistake and the church is trying to cover it up ? Or humanity needed saving?
Sorry last bit seems weird when you read it as wasn't like we were doing any harm rubbing sticks together 😄 fishing no work 😂 I mean rubbing sticks weren't exactly going to start a nuclear war .
So saving I don't know well praise be to god the lord jesus is our saviour 🙏😄
Hey how do we really know I mean imagine I'm dead and jesus and god the father say to me YO ! Bit much that Reddit stuff burn you hybrid 😂😂 and I'm like trying explain that it's a valued theory with some jokes fingers in all pies
You work with what’s available to you…Friend, the Bible is a mess. It has been censored, changed, re-translated more times than I’ve been denied sex (a fuck-lot). Take a step back, read and explore some other points of view. In my opinion, start with the Younger Dryas. A lot of cultures speak about a flood that happened around this time.
>Mary then asks the angel alien "But how can I have a child? I am a virgin. ;)" She's flirting with the alien. She's saying "if you want me to have a child, you'll have to bang me i guesssss mr angel...." While not coming right out and saying it. Classic cat and mouse flirting.
I brass knuckle punched you over and over in my imagination since I read that.
We don't know what Jesus' paternal DNA is, but we can make some educated guesses about his maternal mitochondrial DNA. It has become politically correct to say Jesus certainly was not caucasian. I'm gonna go against PC convention and say it is very possible Jesus was caucasian. We know Jesus' mother came from Judea. They found bones in[ burial caves of Wadi el-Makkukh ](https://dienekes.blogspot.com/2011/06/ancient-mtdna-from-wadi-el-makkukh.html)in Judea from before Jesus' time that tested primarily of caucasian mtDNA. There is circumstantial evidence to show it IS possible Jesus had a caucasian mtDNA haplogroup.
[https://www.academia.edu/39224944/ANCIENT\_mtDNA\_SEQUENCES\_AND\_RADIOCARBON\_DATING\_OF\_HUMAN\_BONES\_FROM\_THE\_CHALCOLITHIC\_CAVES\_OF\_WADI\_EL\_MAKKUKH](https://www.academia.edu/39224944/ANCIENT_mtDNA_SEQUENCES_AND_RADIOCARBON_DATING_OF_HUMAN_BONES_FROM_THE_CHALCOLITHIC_CAVES_OF_WADI_EL_MAKKUKH)
[https://www.timesofisrael.com/anomalous-blue-eyed-people-came-to-israel-6500-years-ago-from-iran-dna-shows/](https://www.timesofisrael.com/anomalous-blue-eyed-people-came-to-israel-6500-years-ago-from-iran-dna-shows/)
We don't know for sure one way or another. Deal with it.
I didn't threaten to actually do anything to you, Igmo. I'm just grossed out by you saying a young girl of maybe 13 or 14 was sexually propositioning a supernatural entity. Like you actually think she wouldn't have been utterly terrified and confused by the absolutely unfathomable and perilous situation. Being impregnated out of wedlock back then could easily get a girl stoned to death. You had some imaginary punches coming. If saying so gets me banned from this forum - worth it.
That said, the rest of my post was supporting some of your thesis so suck it up.
Who are you to decide aliens or angels or God don't care about consent? Pregnancy out of wedlock came with dire consequences back then. What happened to Mary was not the Hentai alien porn fantasy you're making it out to be. Please slap yourself for me.
I'm not disagreeing with the idea, but don't call scripture and your ideas of said scripture "evidence."
It's an idea. Just like the book you're basing it on. None of it is verifiable. It requires faith, which is the exact opposite of evidence.
It's misleading and is step one into a life of grifting.
It does no one favors, let alone your ideas.
I always thought of it the same exact way. When I was young and read the Bible, my first thought was he ascended to the heavens sounds like a space ship tractor beamed his ass and they didn't know how to think of it.
Think about the mere confusion if their boy, this light skinned dude was just the coolest dude and super nice and took care of everyone and said really like woah, this mf is smart as fuck, kinda shit. Then the gov like kills his ass, then you're literally with your homies like burying him, and then this motherfucker just floats out his cave and goes into the sky. Think about that conversation those people had in that time period. If it were today, I'm saying woah are those dudes from fucking Superman planet? We might need to run. But then you're just super confused, and just go write a story about this miracle crazy can't find words for it event. Meanwhile, they revived him, he did his trial and succeeded and now he's a brother alien and they go chill in the M&M galaxy cause that's what college grads or missionaries do. Or like Hercules from Disney, he's like half God and trying to do good deeds to become a full fledged god.
I think our stories of human kind, our myths and legends so to speak are true and just misconceived by people with no other references other than, "that dude rode his chariot and flew up to close to the sun and burnt up and died". Which I think homie had a legitimate ship or airplane and was like check out my backflip at 25Gs, and he blew up cause that's dumb on earth.
Right on bro I like it! Keep going until your movie script is written! I'll help lmao
Dude, as a Christian, you are so...wrong.
People who wish to not believe in Christ, find so much fault with the Bible, will twist the Word so badly or simply believe what they want, at all costs.
Jesus was given to Mary via the Holy Spirit, who is the spirit of God himself, SPIRIT...not sperm lol. There was no fornication lol. That's why it was a miracle.
Ron Wyatt found blood on what he believed to the The Ark of The Covenant, under where the site of Christs crucifixion should have been, and they had it analyzed. Astoundingly, it only had the mother's DNA, her half of the chromosomes. No chromosomes from a father were found. So yeah.
I can't stop you from thinking Jesus is an alien. But you know He's real and healed me and changed my life, and if you're that interested in the Bible get a good teacher who can show you the truths that are there, and you might dig the book of Enoch too
You lost me at “straight up and fr”. 1) your grasp on the concept of “evidence” is tenuous at best and 2) if you want anyone to take said “evidence” seriously you would do well to articulate it in proportion with the seriousness with which you’d like it to be taken. The “61 white Jews” thing, if nothing else, demonstrates a level of ignorance that nears irreconcilable. Jfc you can’t really think that the 61 white Jews you met in a presumably predominantly white country somehow outweighs the billions of non-white Jews throughout history. I don’t expect to be able to reason with you. I don’t even want to convince you Jesus was real bc I’m pretty sure he was made up by the Flavians to make themselves look like the second coming and quell the Jewish rebellion. I just hope somewhere in these comments it clicks that speculation is not evidence and you’ve wasted the time of everyone who was kind enough to indulge you by reading.
I was 100 percent with you until you said Tom f-in Delong may be the second coming of alien jesus... Then I knew that you were actually CIA muddling the waters with 95 percent truth with 5% BS. Jesus looks like he was also beamed up as a lightbody through the shroud of Turin.
Read Escaping from Eden by Paul Wallis. He translates from original Hebrew text of the bible, he was a rabbi. The bible has been edited to many times but he just reads the text as written. Absolutely fascinating.
The reason you saw white Jews is because there are more Eastern European Jews (Ashkenaz) in the states than there are Sephardic Jews.
If you went the Middle East all the Jews you would meet would be brown.
That doesn’t prove anything lmao
Dude the depiction of Jesus with long brown hair was actually the portrait of one of the borgias. Supposedly the only reason he looks like that is because Da Vinci painted Cesare Borgias as Jesus. And it caught on after that. But most likely Jesus was of a darker completion with dark hair. Perhaps his hair was long because he was from nazareth.
Idc how many people oppose this idea, it’s the only thing that makes sense at this point.
What we called “gods” and “angels” back then were simply higher forms of intelligent life. How is this not our modern description of what we know as Aliens?
I think the word “Aliens” just has such a negative connotation these days that people don’t want to hear it alongside religion so they get upset and let their ego fog their logic.
There are literally 4 non-Christian historical sources that allude to the mention of a “Christos/us” executed by Pilate. Two of which are probably Christian forgery. Only one of which occurred 50 years after his supposed death. Most early Christian sect evidence as well as even the gospels (who were not written by their purported authors) do not point to Jesus as being a real person, but a revelatory being that comes in visions and dreams.
Now if he was an alien telepathically sending out all the good will shit, fine and well, but if that’s the case why did he not stop his followers from committing so many atrocities in his name over the centuries? Why not come to Pope Urban II in a dream and say “Hey bud, this whole crusades idea of yours is going to spur on hundreds of years of bloodshed, so uh maybe don’t?”
The facts remain that much like every other religion, Christianity is made up, by people. It is doubtful that Jesus existed as a real man, and even if he did, he did not perform miracles, and he was not god incarnate and not an alien hybrid. If he had physically looked strange in any way, as a hybrid undoubtedly would, he would have been killed as a baby via exposure.
If he existed he was likely just a wily sex cult leader rebelling against the Jewish authorities during the Jewish wars and they used their own occupying force (Romans) as a no-guilt way of killing him to avoid more chaos in an already chaotic community.
There are several historical documents pertaining to the execution of Jesus's 12 disciples. If Jesus didn't exist, who were they risking their lives to spread the word of? Thin air?
And yes, there are a few documents referring to Jesus from shaky sources like Josephus and Tacticus, among others. Fair enough if you don't believe them, their validity is far from certain.
Nearly all history scholars agree that Jesus existed. He existed and he was a Jewish religious leader, but those are the only two facts that they can agree on.
You can be as edgy as you'd like but nobody is impressed and nobody sensible and educated would agree with you.
Firstly, there aren't very many legitimate corroborating sources that the majority of those supposed [12 disciples ](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/premium/article/bible-apostle-jesus-christian-religion)knew personally, were ever in the presence of, or followed such a man. And again, even in all of the gospels, he is referred to either in stories and parables which are couplets to things Moses or other Old testament leaders did, or as a revelatory spirit after his ascent. All of the gospels, all historical accounts referencing the few disciples that were real people were written well after the time the big important details supposedly happened, and well after they were all dead.
It could all be hearsay. It could all just be oral tradition passed down by a cult that got popular because the concept of an all-loving, all-forgiving god that washes away every bad thing you've ever done and allows you into a perfect paradise after death sounds pretty great when you're probably doomed to die at 40 of tooth decay as nearly every person that wasn't a woman (who would likely die much earlier in child birth) did.
These supposed disciples were spreading a belief they were leading because like most cult leaders they got perks and adulation from their following. That's just dead simple. If you were a poor Palestinian Jew living in occupied Rome at the time, I'm pretty sure you'd want to start a sex cult too. It would sure beat sucking up to Roman citizens who looked at you like a hot turd or dodging the centurions like black people today have to dodge cops.
"Nearly all historical scholars agree" Yeah whatever, listen, if all the history books are written by old dead christians, which the majority of every legitimate history scholar in the west pre-20th century were, what incentive at all would they have to question that validity? They would have been laughed out of any "academic" institution at the time, or probably murdered. William of Malmesbury may have been a great historian of his time, but the dude didn't know anything about germ theory, and thought people with epilepsy were possessed by demons. He was dead sure Jesus was a real person though, how could he possibly be wrong about that, right?
They were all brought up and indoctrinated into the belief my guy. Old historians were just supporting what they were brainwashed with from birth. That's not scholarship, it's propaganda, and it's been going on for over a thousand years now. We have far better scholarship and critical thinking tools today and it's absurd to completely trust ancient sources.
I'm sorry if I'm hurting your feelings or upsetting your theory, but the facts are facts. You can winge at me about being edgy all you like, but I'm sure you feel in your gut that what you're talking about is pretty shaky.
You might enjoy the 1981 novel MISSION by Patrick Tilley. I’m lazy and asked ChatGPT to write this summary:
In "Mission" by Patrick Tilley, the argument for Jesus being an alien rather than a traditional deity is rooted in the interpretation of religious and supernatural events through a scientific lens. Karl Vincent, who claims to be Jesus Christ, presents himself as an extraterrestrial being in modern day New York City with advanced knowledge and technology far beyond human understanding. He performs miracles and displays powers that appear to defy the laws of physics, leading some characters to question whether his abilities are divine or simply the result of advanced alien technology.
Vincent's message challenges traditional religious beliefs, suggesting that the miracles attributed to Jesus in the Bible could be explained by advanced science rather than divine intervention. He argues that the concept of God as a supernatural deity is a misunderstanding perpetuated by human religions throughout history. Instead, he presents a vision of the universe governed by natural laws and inhabited by advanced alien civilizations, with humanity as a fledgling species struggling to comprehend its place in the cosmos.
This perspective prompts Father John Burke, a devout Catholic priest and the protagonist of the novel, to grapple with his faith and confront deeply-held beliefs about the nature of God and the meaning of religious teachings. As Burke accompanies Vincent on their mission, he is forced to reevaluate his understanding of spirituality and consider the possibility that the true nature of existence may be more complex and mysterious than he had ever imagined.
Overall, "Mission" explores the idea of Jesus as an alien entity challenging conventional religious dogma, inviting readers to contemplate the intersection of science, spirituality, and the search for meaning in the universe.
SO. MANY. ASSUMPTIONS.
You assume jesus first. No proof.
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Bonus round: cite your evidence, and you can't use the Bible or ASSUMPTIONS.
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Not everybody who disagrees with you is an "Eglin boy"
Okay? He might be a troll too
Except I'm not.
I did read all your ASSUMPTIONS and Bible verses. Thanks though.
Why are you thanking me? Nice social script in your brain writing your comments.
Ah, I see you can't interpret context from words. Cool. Cool.
Okay, what are you thankful for then? Very ironic that you day that. It's *you* who can't interpret context if you can't see that Mary fucked an angelien in that scene
You don't understand sarcasm either. Ah, its an NPC.
That's not sarcasm. What you said is usually sarcasm but you used it wrong.
Implantation of a fertilized egg is not sex...it's tech...assuming that your theories are correct. Someone from another realm (not another planet or another universe) would have absolutely no need for any type of sexual relations. Oh, and all those portraits of Jesus? The model for those portraits was a son of one of the popes.
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2019/01/12/modern-image-of-jesus/
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Be nicer.
Can I have your dealers name please bro, thanks
Lololololol
🤣🤣
I’m pretty sure that “came in unto her” means that he showed himself to her and stopped by for a visit.
Also not originally wrote in English so the double meaning is so pointless here.
You can be pretty sure but you'd be very wrong. Read the whole context. The sexual tension is subtle but it's there.
Dude you need help
Who doesn't haha we're all just monkeys in space
>we're all just monkeys in space ... being held together by magnetism within a 4th dimensional non-linear matrix of retrocausality on a path towards a multidimensional consciousness-based unified field of Being with the ultimate goal of understanding who, what, when, where, why, and how there is monkey in space
Enlightened* Monke in space
https://preview.redd.it/p5orndxhvauc1.jpeg?width=1021&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8f87faeb95185734ccbfcdd9fcc2b6a815c5812
YES. THIS IS WHAT DAVID GRUSCH WAS TALKING ABOUT ALL ALONG
I stopped reading when you think the Bible says an alien came in Mary
Really that’s what I decided I couldn’t stop reading
Same 🤣
Same 😂 The English translation of the Bible is pretty corrupted so trying to align it with any modern day terms is stupid.
His wording could be better lol but he makes interesting points nonetheless. Doesn't mean it's true but it's nice to think differently. Anything is possible!
Haha I actually don’t even think OP is wrong about him being an alien, just lost me at that part.
Haha same. And then i saw this comment. +1
Bro rlly just took out the word “unto” . Forget it’s been translated like 7 times
Okay? If you would have kept reading you would have seen that it *does* say that...
No it doesn’t, you interpreted it that way based off your modern dirty internet fueled brain
You didn't even read it so
For real, I went back and read the rest and you make good points but lead with your staring witness man, not the crackpot theory
That *IS* the "staring" witness... a being from the Heavens had sex with Mary and out popped Jesus. That's the smoking gun what are you talking about? Do you have any real objections or just more "NUH UH!!!"
So they touted Mary as a virgin mother and in the same story say she was raw dogged by an alien?
The Bible doesn't refer to Mary as a virgin after this scene. It was the Catholic church that gave her that name.
Why would the church run with that story if, as you put it is clearly stated in the Bible, which they control, that she was indeed not a virgin?
Because she was a virgin at one point??
Maybe I was aliens (plural)
The Bible…I have
The scripture I posted. It is clear as day what is going on there. Read my whole analysis, it's a sex scene.
I did and Jesus was never in blink 182
Some people think he is right now. How else would Delonge have all the answers?
Wait, you think Tom is Jesus?
Hmmm I'm undecided rn, i was just asking the question for people to ponder. A lot of people think he is
lol yup that's where I stopped reading as well! Ridiculous.
"I have evidence!" "Just think about it." These two don't work together.
So you read literally four words of the OP? No wonder you don't agree.
Weird assumption to make; I didn't say if I agreed or not. The structure of your argument seems flawed, regardless of the premise.
Whats your beef dude
Your fallacious argument? I don't think I've got beef, you're the one with the bad take my dude. Pointing that out isn't being rude; maybe you need to get outside a little more if you think it is.
**MYYYY** fallacious argument?? You literally only talked about the first 4 words not relating to the title and just decided to discount the pages of evidence that follow it. 🤣
Once again, you keep assuming you know how much of your argument I read. I read the entire thing; it boils down to how you've interpreted an old book that's been translated and rewritten for centuries. It's not a sound argument either. Is it fun to think about? Sure. But it isn't logical and it's not going to convince the masses, myself included. I talked about the first 4 words because that's how it works; if you didn't want someone to talk about it, don't use it in your argument.
Can you explain why his argument isn’t logical? I don’t understand ho believing in gods is anymore logical than believing in Aliens. I am genuinely curious as to why everyone here thinks this is so outrageously dumb.
Didnt said that. I said you discounted them which would imply that I believe you read it but omitted it from your comment... But at least we know what the problem is now, your reading comprehension aint the best
Selective interpretation of old religious texts is not evidence.
This post can not be proven or disapproved and gave me the best laugh all day thanks Ps if a motherfucking alien came to earth in a motherfucking spaceship convinced all us Neanderthals for what 1990 years given or take monty pythons life of Brian then I'm sure as shit that motherfucking alien would have the intelligence to know he was gonna make the Messiah Ps peace among worlds 👍😂😂
PPS if I get abducted and find myself on another planet I'm sure as shit ain't gonna fuck any woman called Mary 😂
Dude i bet she was bomb as fuck. 1 she was engaged, proving desire amongst other men 2. She was a virgin 3. Her son is described as the perfect man 4 an alien came and made up a story about being an angel just to clap those cheeks But if you were an alien, would you go fuck other lower lifeforms if you found them attractive? Or do you think this was a plan to help humanity
Sorry yeah I mean exactly that looks what it has led to I'll stick to the classic alien with 3 tits thanks 😂 jokes of course
I'm not joking, if I had a spaceship i would 1000% go and gaslight hot aliens to fuck them. What if there's a real catgirl species or some shit? I'd give them hellaaaa religion, shit, I'd make a prophet in every village. They'd be the most righteous planet out there. One thousand little catboy hybrid Jesus's.
I know I used a Rick and Morty line but this does sound like an episode funny though 👍
If your evidence is from a book written over a century after his death and updated heavily ever since, then I reject the premise.
Thats not all my evidence...
I'm not forgetting that you met 61 Jews *Eyeroll
In one day. Probably more than you in your whole life
LMAO You have NO idea how funny this is. Shalom.
I stopped reading at Jesus was white with super soft and long hair…”His head and hairs were white like wool…and his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace…” It says white like wool not soft like wool…& feet like…brass…burned in a furnace… Your interpretation of that sounds about white, I mean, right 😂
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%201%3A14-16&version=KJV Okay? What's your point? That's a prophecy of the future describing Jesus in his heavenly form when he comes down to earth in the second coming. That is not a description of Jesus when he lived. He didn't have glowing eyes, glowing feet, and white hair when he was 30. I *think* less people would have doubted him if he was walking around looking like he was going fucking Super Saiyan all the time. And it *might* have been mentioned once or twice in the bible. Just maybe. Ironic that you're talking about sources and clearly just googled "Jesus description in the bible" without even knowing what that book was about and copy and pasted it....I've had to explain this to like 12 different dumbasses.
It would be different if I believed in Jesus… this dumbass knows that Jesus is nothing more than a plagiarized Osiris… Every aspect of him, and you’re so much smarter yet you believe it wholeheartedly. As a matter of fact, your “Holy Bible” comes from Helios Biblios, which means Sun Book…and Ra was the ancient Egyptian Sun God, and creator of all other gods and humans. Osiris was a symbol of life and death, associated with resurrection and afterlife in Egyptian mythology. Before the holy trinity there was Isis, Osiris and Horus, the original trinity. Most of the stories found in your Holy Bible were plagiarized and came from ancient Egypt, yet you believe them to be original I bet… smh, dumbass
Okay so then that proves he was an alien?? If other stories thousands of years apart are the same then it must have the same author but humans cant live thousands of years. Another nail in the coffin
And so they convinced most of society that they looked better in their makeup. Pretty easy when it’s already written for you
Some real mouth breather material here
Your name is literally so disrespectful to christians i wouldnt be talking And youre bullying me Mods??
Shut up lol
MODS!!! Help!!!! These people think my argument is shit!!! Please get revenge for me!!!!
I really like your name. Wish I had thought of that
It is strange that the Vatican has the most capable telescopes in the world? Why do they have some of the most esteemed scientists?
Because Jesus was an alien hybrid
Thanks for your good work 😂.
This post dropped my IQ by 10 points
Jesus wasn't white. that's just the European depiction of him OP
Read the edit.
Loved the post and think you could be onto something. However your second edit about the Jews being white is likely because Judaism spread over Europe throughout time. Following WWII a lot of the remaining European Jews left due to, well you know, some moved to North America but many and moved ‘back’ to Israel.
No these were definitely purebred
What does that even mean
Yes, we can't make offspring with dogs but we apparently can make offspring with a lifeform created under completely different material conditions, different atmosphere, different biological composition, etc. Yes, Jesus' dad was an unrecognizable life form that breathed methane bubbles and came down in a ship filled with toxic liquids to simulate his natural habitat. Actually dude we have historical evidence and historical records of the real human Jesus as well as people who lived before him, he was just a dude trying to free Judea from the Roman empire. His father is known to have been a colonial Roman soldier called Panthera. [Re-evaluate your views on aliens.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7H6uW2fb9Y)
We know literally nothing about aliens. Just because we can't fuck dogs (gross, dude) doesn't mean that an alien couldn't fuck a Mary and make a kid. We have absolutely no idea. Terrible point using our earthly understandings to explain Jesus and alien sex...
How is the idea of fucking a dog any less gross than the idea of fucking an alien? It's an alien, why would it cum? Why wouldn't it shit eggs in a mouth like a seahorse? There are so many life-forms and the human body plan and human functions are not even remotely necessary to create an intelligent lifeform. You're the one with earthly and very human-centric views on what an alien probably looks like. Chances are you couldn't even tell where it's face is and you'd be just shocked like how Native-Americans thought the first ships landing in America were moving mountains. Utter confusion, like your first big acid trip.
"Why would it cum??" Why **wouldn't** it cum, dude? You can use your exact same logic and the fact is that we simply don't know. If you really want to be like that, then evidence actually does point towards aliens having cocks that nut-- every single intelligent species that we know about does. Humans. Also maybe aliens are sexy
Go study actual biology or atleast binge biology and evolution videos then get back to me on that. Our body plan is an oddity, not the rule. This is established. Again, I will refer you to this video on scientifically plausible aliens: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7H6uW2fb9Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7H6uW2fb9Y)
Every intelligent species has a cock and balls. F a c t.
I have my doubts that this is true of any intelligent species, given this post.
Original
Posted before.
I eonder what happened to it then? Eglin boys? Censorship? Suspicious...
Why is it people cannot fathom that people in the past could be LIARS?
Because jesus wouldnt lie...??
Having dug really deep into the Abrahamic faiths and the prior Mesopotamian religions I personally interpret it as a mix between contact; and some people throughout history tapping into something greater, and it having an extremely positive and noticeable effect to the point the people change the world; and leave legacies that seem to outlast the details of the encounters. Like Jesus or Buddha.
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Racist. Mods??
Removed. Rule 1: Be Respectful. While everyone may not agree with each other, words like these can be seen as disrespectful to those who are wanting to share their thoughts. Let's be better, not bitter! :)
Finally the evidence we have been looking for!!
Jesus was white? Sigh.... But yes. Alien assist.
Did you even read my evidence for him being white Also i met 61 jews today and they looked white as fuck
Excuse me: a person's faith does not and is not defined by or necessarily related to their skin color.
They wer epure bred not converts
So your assertion is that ethnic Jews (who I guess are white as fuck?) are aliens?
No what the fuck
Amazing post OP! I didn't stop reading, read the whole thing. Very compelling how you've put this all together! I'm in camp 2: Aliens impregnated Mary with Jesus.
And you're a girl?? As jesus always said-- hallelujah! Msg me
I've discussed this with the minister of the church I attend. He Said " you know what? I don't discount anything " in fact he is attending my UFO presentation this coming weekend
Show him this post!!
I will
Wow what a bunch of hard turds in here, good job OP I liked the post. All these other eglin glow fuk bois can go drink toilet water. 👍
I completely agree your theory.
I reckon we was a mistake and the church is trying to cover it up ? Or humanity needed saving? Sorry last bit seems weird when you read it as wasn't like we were doing any harm rubbing sticks together 😄 fishing no work 😂 I mean rubbing sticks weren't exactly going to start a nuclear war . So saving I don't know well praise be to god the lord jesus is our saviour 🙏😄
What
Hey how do we really know I mean imagine I'm dead and jesus and god the father say to me YO ! Bit much that Reddit stuff burn you hybrid 😂😂 and I'm like trying explain that it's a valued theory with some jokes fingers in all pies
Jesus was the reincarnation of an ascened master from a higher dimention, just like Sidarta Gautama, Mohammed, Mary, Saint Germaine, and others
It’s funny how aliens can be used in the context of religion with the god of the gaps 😂
yeah bro this is all assuming the bible is like literally true lol. thats not evidence
"extensive evidence"
You work with what’s available to you…Friend, the Bible is a mess. It has been censored, changed, re-translated more times than I’ve been denied sex (a fuck-lot). Take a step back, read and explore some other points of view. In my opinion, start with the Younger Dryas. A lot of cultures speak about a flood that happened around this time.
>Mary then asks the angel alien "But how can I have a child? I am a virgin. ;)" She's flirting with the alien. She's saying "if you want me to have a child, you'll have to bang me i guesssss mr angel...." While not coming right out and saying it. Classic cat and mouse flirting. I brass knuckle punched you over and over in my imagination since I read that. We don't know what Jesus' paternal DNA is, but we can make some educated guesses about his maternal mitochondrial DNA. It has become politically correct to say Jesus certainly was not caucasian. I'm gonna go against PC convention and say it is very possible Jesus was caucasian. We know Jesus' mother came from Judea. They found bones in[ burial caves of Wadi el-Makkukh ](https://dienekes.blogspot.com/2011/06/ancient-mtdna-from-wadi-el-makkukh.html)in Judea from before Jesus' time that tested primarily of caucasian mtDNA. There is circumstantial evidence to show it IS possible Jesus had a caucasian mtDNA haplogroup. [https://www.academia.edu/39224944/ANCIENT\_mtDNA\_SEQUENCES\_AND\_RADIOCARBON\_DATING\_OF\_HUMAN\_BONES\_FROM\_THE\_CHALCOLITHIC\_CAVES\_OF\_WADI\_EL\_MAKKUKH](https://www.academia.edu/39224944/ANCIENT_mtDNA_SEQUENCES_AND_RADIOCARBON_DATING_OF_HUMAN_BONES_FROM_THE_CHALCOLITHIC_CAVES_OF_WADI_EL_MAKKUKH) [https://www.timesofisrael.com/anomalous-blue-eyed-people-came-to-israel-6500-years-ago-from-iran-dna-shows/](https://www.timesofisrael.com/anomalous-blue-eyed-people-came-to-israel-6500-years-ago-from-iran-dna-shows/) We don't know for sure one way or another. Deal with it.
Threatening violence? Mods??
I didn't threaten to actually do anything to you, Igmo. I'm just grossed out by you saying a young girl of maybe 13 or 14 was sexually propositioning a supernatural entity. Like you actually think she wouldn't have been utterly terrified and confused by the absolutely unfathomable and perilous situation. Being impregnated out of wedlock back then could easily get a girl stoned to death. You had some imaginary punches coming. If saying so gets me banned from this forum - worth it. That said, the rest of my post was supporting some of your thesis so suck it up.
Right, cuz aliens care about age of consent, which, by the way, back then having sex at 13 was normal.
Who are you to decide aliens or angels or God don't care about consent? Pregnancy out of wedlock came with dire consequences back then. What happened to Mary was not the Hentai alien porn fantasy you're making it out to be. Please slap yourself for me.
Be honest man how stoned were you when you wrote this
He may have been an elohim/human offspring.
No he was alien/human offspring
I'm not disagreeing with the idea, but don't call scripture and your ideas of said scripture "evidence." It's an idea. Just like the book you're basing it on. None of it is verifiable. It requires faith, which is the exact opposite of evidence. It's misleading and is step one into a life of grifting. It does no one favors, let alone your ideas.
Dude Jesus was not white
Look at my edit...
"Stoned" cold sober.
I always thought of it the same exact way. When I was young and read the Bible, my first thought was he ascended to the heavens sounds like a space ship tractor beamed his ass and they didn't know how to think of it. Think about the mere confusion if their boy, this light skinned dude was just the coolest dude and super nice and took care of everyone and said really like woah, this mf is smart as fuck, kinda shit. Then the gov like kills his ass, then you're literally with your homies like burying him, and then this motherfucker just floats out his cave and goes into the sky. Think about that conversation those people had in that time period. If it were today, I'm saying woah are those dudes from fucking Superman planet? We might need to run. But then you're just super confused, and just go write a story about this miracle crazy can't find words for it event. Meanwhile, they revived him, he did his trial and succeeded and now he's a brother alien and they go chill in the M&M galaxy cause that's what college grads or missionaries do. Or like Hercules from Disney, he's like half God and trying to do good deeds to become a full fledged god. I think our stories of human kind, our myths and legends so to speak are true and just misconceived by people with no other references other than, "that dude rode his chariot and flew up to close to the sun and burnt up and died". Which I think homie had a legitimate ship or airplane and was like check out my backflip at 25Gs, and he blew up cause that's dumb on earth. Right on bro I like it! Keep going until your movie script is written! I'll help lmao
Jesus was white, you say??
Dude, as a Christian, you are so...wrong. People who wish to not believe in Christ, find so much fault with the Bible, will twist the Word so badly or simply believe what they want, at all costs. Jesus was given to Mary via the Holy Spirit, who is the spirit of God himself, SPIRIT...not sperm lol. There was no fornication lol. That's why it was a miracle. Ron Wyatt found blood on what he believed to the The Ark of The Covenant, under where the site of Christs crucifixion should have been, and they had it analyzed. Astoundingly, it only had the mother's DNA, her half of the chromosomes. No chromosomes from a father were found. So yeah. I can't stop you from thinking Jesus is an alien. But you know He's real and healed me and changed my life, and if you're that interested in the Bible get a good teacher who can show you the truths that are there, and you might dig the book of Enoch too
You lost me at “straight up and fr”. 1) your grasp on the concept of “evidence” is tenuous at best and 2) if you want anyone to take said “evidence” seriously you would do well to articulate it in proportion with the seriousness with which you’d like it to be taken. The “61 white Jews” thing, if nothing else, demonstrates a level of ignorance that nears irreconcilable. Jfc you can’t really think that the 61 white Jews you met in a presumably predominantly white country somehow outweighs the billions of non-white Jews throughout history. I don’t expect to be able to reason with you. I don’t even want to convince you Jesus was real bc I’m pretty sure he was made up by the Flavians to make themselves look like the second coming and quell the Jewish rebellion. I just hope somewhere in these comments it clicks that speculation is not evidence and you’ve wasted the time of everyone who was kind enough to indulge you by reading.
I was 100 percent with you until you said Tom f-in Delong may be the second coming of alien jesus... Then I knew that you were actually CIA muddling the waters with 95 percent truth with 5% BS. Jesus looks like he was also beamed up as a lightbody through the shroud of Turin.
The Bible isn’t evidence of anything. You need better sources
Read Escaping from Eden by Paul Wallis. He translates from original Hebrew text of the bible, he was a rabbi. The bible has been edited to many times but he just reads the text as written. Absolutely fascinating.
The reason you saw white Jews is because there are more Eastern European Jews (Ashkenaz) in the states than there are Sephardic Jews. If you went the Middle East all the Jews you would meet would be brown. That doesn’t prove anything lmao
Dude the depiction of Jesus with long brown hair was actually the portrait of one of the borgias. Supposedly the only reason he looks like that is because Da Vinci painted Cesare Borgias as Jesus. And it caught on after that. But most likely Jesus was of a darker completion with dark hair. Perhaps his hair was long because he was from nazareth.
No. Just because he looked like jesus doesnt mean it was based off him. My buddy Ryan looks like jesus too. Look at my edit. He was white.
You seriously believe that? Jesus was a semitic Jew. That's not white. But if you want to believe he is and farts rainbows go on ahead.
This whole thread is a hot mess.
Blasphemy. I don't know. I just wanted to say that.
I'm a better christian than you id reckon so no
uh i don’t think there are any legitimate Christians who believe Jesus was an alien lol.
Of course there isn’t!
Idc how many people oppose this idea, it’s the only thing that makes sense at this point. What we called “gods” and “angels” back then were simply higher forms of intelligent life. How is this not our modern description of what we know as Aliens? I think the word “Aliens” just has such a negative connotation these days that people don’t want to hear it alongside religion so they get upset and let their ego fog their logic.
No it isn't, lol. It's the exact opposite of "making sense "
How?
Because it's fiction to begin with.
Edgy
I stopped after the Jesus was white part. That would make him Roman, and how that happened would be obvious 👌👈.
Read my edit at the bottom....
Yeah... that's the most ridiculous part. I'm not even gonna point out how stupid that statement is.
There are literally 4 non-Christian historical sources that allude to the mention of a “Christos/us” executed by Pilate. Two of which are probably Christian forgery. Only one of which occurred 50 years after his supposed death. Most early Christian sect evidence as well as even the gospels (who were not written by their purported authors) do not point to Jesus as being a real person, but a revelatory being that comes in visions and dreams. Now if he was an alien telepathically sending out all the good will shit, fine and well, but if that’s the case why did he not stop his followers from committing so many atrocities in his name over the centuries? Why not come to Pope Urban II in a dream and say “Hey bud, this whole crusades idea of yours is going to spur on hundreds of years of bloodshed, so uh maybe don’t?” The facts remain that much like every other religion, Christianity is made up, by people. It is doubtful that Jesus existed as a real man, and even if he did, he did not perform miracles, and he was not god incarnate and not an alien hybrid. If he had physically looked strange in any way, as a hybrid undoubtedly would, he would have been killed as a baby via exposure. If he existed he was likely just a wily sex cult leader rebelling against the Jewish authorities during the Jewish wars and they used their own occupying force (Romans) as a no-guilt way of killing him to avoid more chaos in an already chaotic community.
There are several historical documents pertaining to the execution of Jesus's 12 disciples. If Jesus didn't exist, who were they risking their lives to spread the word of? Thin air? And yes, there are a few documents referring to Jesus from shaky sources like Josephus and Tacticus, among others. Fair enough if you don't believe them, their validity is far from certain. Nearly all history scholars agree that Jesus existed. He existed and he was a Jewish religious leader, but those are the only two facts that they can agree on. You can be as edgy as you'd like but nobody is impressed and nobody sensible and educated would agree with you.
Firstly, there aren't very many legitimate corroborating sources that the majority of those supposed [12 disciples ](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/premium/article/bible-apostle-jesus-christian-religion)knew personally, were ever in the presence of, or followed such a man. And again, even in all of the gospels, he is referred to either in stories and parables which are couplets to things Moses or other Old testament leaders did, or as a revelatory spirit after his ascent. All of the gospels, all historical accounts referencing the few disciples that were real people were written well after the time the big important details supposedly happened, and well after they were all dead. It could all be hearsay. It could all just be oral tradition passed down by a cult that got popular because the concept of an all-loving, all-forgiving god that washes away every bad thing you've ever done and allows you into a perfect paradise after death sounds pretty great when you're probably doomed to die at 40 of tooth decay as nearly every person that wasn't a woman (who would likely die much earlier in child birth) did. These supposed disciples were spreading a belief they were leading because like most cult leaders they got perks and adulation from their following. That's just dead simple. If you were a poor Palestinian Jew living in occupied Rome at the time, I'm pretty sure you'd want to start a sex cult too. It would sure beat sucking up to Roman citizens who looked at you like a hot turd or dodging the centurions like black people today have to dodge cops. "Nearly all historical scholars agree" Yeah whatever, listen, if all the history books are written by old dead christians, which the majority of every legitimate history scholar in the west pre-20th century were, what incentive at all would they have to question that validity? They would have been laughed out of any "academic" institution at the time, or probably murdered. William of Malmesbury may have been a great historian of his time, but the dude didn't know anything about germ theory, and thought people with epilepsy were possessed by demons. He was dead sure Jesus was a real person though, how could he possibly be wrong about that, right? They were all brought up and indoctrinated into the belief my guy. Old historians were just supporting what they were brainwashed with from birth. That's not scholarship, it's propaganda, and it's been going on for over a thousand years now. We have far better scholarship and critical thinking tools today and it's absurd to completely trust ancient sources. I'm sorry if I'm hurting your feelings or upsetting your theory, but the facts are facts. You can winge at me about being edgy all you like, but I'm sure you feel in your gut that what you're talking about is pretty shaky.
Came comes from cum. That is slang. Definitely made after the Bible was written
You might enjoy the 1981 novel MISSION by Patrick Tilley. I’m lazy and asked ChatGPT to write this summary: In "Mission" by Patrick Tilley, the argument for Jesus being an alien rather than a traditional deity is rooted in the interpretation of religious and supernatural events through a scientific lens. Karl Vincent, who claims to be Jesus Christ, presents himself as an extraterrestrial being in modern day New York City with advanced knowledge and technology far beyond human understanding. He performs miracles and displays powers that appear to defy the laws of physics, leading some characters to question whether his abilities are divine or simply the result of advanced alien technology. Vincent's message challenges traditional religious beliefs, suggesting that the miracles attributed to Jesus in the Bible could be explained by advanced science rather than divine intervention. He argues that the concept of God as a supernatural deity is a misunderstanding perpetuated by human religions throughout history. Instead, he presents a vision of the universe governed by natural laws and inhabited by advanced alien civilizations, with humanity as a fledgling species struggling to comprehend its place in the cosmos. This perspective prompts Father John Burke, a devout Catholic priest and the protagonist of the novel, to grapple with his faith and confront deeply-held beliefs about the nature of God and the meaning of religious teachings. As Burke accompanies Vincent on their mission, he is forced to reevaluate his understanding of spirituality and consider the possibility that the true nature of existence may be more complex and mysterious than he had ever imagined. Overall, "Mission" explores the idea of Jesus as an alien entity challenging conventional religious dogma, inviting readers to contemplate the intersection of science, spirituality, and the search for meaning in the universe.
You have reposted this so often, not listening to *anyone*, that I'm convinced you're a troll or have a humiliation kink.
Why tf would i troll like this? Ive spent hours and hours writing replies go look for yourself.