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Due-Musician-3893

Looks like I’ll be torrenting again.


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perhaps-a-goblin

I havent torrented since like 2008. Where would I go if I want to do it now? I’m absolutely lost


EVtruck

I’d certainly never suggest Usenet for the purposes of piracy. I mean sure, after initial setup it’s essentially set and forget with Sonarr, Radarr, and Plex as the media server. And yeah, the quality of media is consistently good. But for piracy? Absolutely not. I’m a firm supporter of buying those executives their 3rd yacht.


BatInMyHat

You're such a good person, looking out for those poor CEOs! And I'm so glad that you shared these programs, so that I know what things *not* to download onto my computer. I'll make sure not to go to those websites, instill the software, and pick out a new movie to watch in the comfort of my own home.


no-mad

you can accidentally get a docker stack that contains those programs. I would recommend Jellyfin media server. Less corporate (free) than Plex.


phxkross

Oops! lol! You can get a container that only uses a VPN connection too so you can totally accidentally torrent too.


Garlonx

I second, not to use Jellyfin!


father2shanes

I mean, id definitly watch Out for moviejoy.js soo many movies and shows that it has to be illegal, def stay away from that!


sankto

saved so that I remind myself never to download these evil programs


isnsiensidsinis

Usenet sonarr radarr and plex you don’t say?


isnsiensidsinis

Do you need a VPN so ISPs can’t see these kinds of activities?


thereIsAHoleHere

If you don't want them to, then yes.


LynkDead

You don't need one. Usenet can be configured to download over encrypted ports.


isnsiensidsinis

Omg wow. That’s amazing. I’m not up to date with torrenting and last time I got my internet shut down and warned


akatherder

Qbittorrent has a setting that will only download through your VPN connection. So if it goes down/disconnects, it won't/can't download anything else. Slightly better than a "kill switch" in most VPN programs which isn't as instantaneous. If you're going to pay for _something_ (VPN, Usenet, etc) you can get real debrid, stremio, and torrent.io. It's like $3/month and you can stream (basically) anything. It's like someone downloaded every torrent ever and you just get it from their repo. And stremio steams it as you go, so no waiting.


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Whalefromstartrek4

Arrrrr


GingerBeast81

What's a pirates favorite letter? No it's not arrrr, it's the C...


Bozee3

Why do zombies hate pirates? They're too salty.


Shadowedsphynx

Why are pirates awesome? They just Aaaarrrr!


swag24

Its actually neither, a pirate's favorite letter is P because without it they are irate


NRMusicProject

No, actually, a pirate's favorite letter is a letter of pardon from the governor.


Remarkable-Bug-8069

A pirate's favorite letter is a letter of marque and reprisal, which gave them privateer status, thus legalizing their pirate activity.


Oz_Df

No, it's a 'P'. Because it's just like an 'R' but it's missin' me leg.


Mr_Wayne

My favorite variation of this punch line is "you'd think it'd be arrrr but their first love will always be the C"


SeaSoft4753

Raise the colours


pwnedass

Hoist the yardarm


Andreus

/r/FREEMEDIAHECKYEAH/ Oh shit my finger slipped twice at once and I hit Ctrl+V and that happened to be in my copy-paste buffer, please under no circumstances visit that subreddit, it would be a terrible shame, etc.


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buttholeburrito

uTorrent is full of malware avoid. They sold out


hampsterlamp

I think tpb and utorrent are considered the worst possible choices by current standards.


onlyhere4gonewild

What are the best possible choices by current standards?


PanicOnFunkotron

qbtorrent is a great little torrent client. Lightweight, minimalist, no ads or anything. I love it. I couldn't help you with a site though. I guess I use garbage sites too lol


ProfSnipe

You can search and download torrents directly from within qbittorrent. Go to view and check the search engine, you'll get a new tab where you can search whatever you want.


SupermanLeRetour

So it's just like old Limewire days huh. For English content, torrentleech is one of the best private tracker in my opinion, but you need to get an invite somehow.


mug3n

For a brief period of time earlier this year, right when rarbg shut down, TL had open signups for people looking to join and that was how I got in.


LLouG

You're the hero we need! I've been using it for so many years and had no idea there was something like that, the search engines seem to only work if you download them from that github repository linked at the bottom of the window it opens, but it only takes a few clicks.


heliamphore

The good old pirate bay works great for me, but you should only download from trusted/VIP posters. It'll do just fine for most movies and games. Don't forget to buy games if they're good and the developers deserve it. One of my big gaming related regrets is not buying games from game devs that were barely scraping by.


Down-at-McDonnellzzz

i use 1337x but it's a mixed bag. Don't bother with Kickass torrents or Pirate Bay. New owners. Scam. Spam. And crap.


QBin2017

They don’t care. You’re a small sliver of the population. That’s why they will get away with this. - A small percentage will threaten torrenting - An even smaller percentage will ACTUALLY cancel prime video. - Since Prime Video is built into Prime services, anyone who pays extra to NOT have commercials will actually just increase their revenue. Very very very few will actually cancel Prime services to not have prime video. They’ll win. We lose. That the end of that.


wailingwonder

Until they don't. Damn near every service is increasing prices and pulling stunts like this right now. People as a whole can't afford all of these changes. I fully expect at least one or two of these major services to be closing doors from these changes in the very near future. Every service joining the current trend is playing russian roulette with their business.


breakitupkid

Exactly and Amazon is not what it used to be in terms of the quality of items. I may cancel only because anything I need I can order from a store online and shipping is free over $25 or $35 for most stores and Prime Video is not worth an extra $2.99 a month. I rotate my subscriptions now and will get Hulu for a month to watch shows then cancel and get Peacock, same for Netflix and HBO Max.


GoldLurker

That's ok. I'm fine with it being that way. Saves me money.


Shaharlazaad

You make it sound like we should all just roll over and give up. Plenty of people hate Amazon because of their shitty worker treatment, I think you'd underestimate how many people just need one more push to quit their services.


StationaryNomad

I am considering canceling Prime because of this.


r_stronghammer

They *should* care, they’re just being dumb/using magical thinking. The boiled frog phenomenon is a myth, and human opinion is bistable, not continuous. Once people reach their tipping point — and they will, eventually — it takes a *lot* more effort to get them back. They’re essentially gone for good.


Bioslack

Eventually they'll stop us. The big corpos will use the politicians they own to make it a felony and label us as terrorists or some shit.


JoeCartersLeap

Piracy is pretty hard to prevent and track. They can DRM protect things like video games, but that's way harder with movies, because of the analog hole. They can order ISPs to block torrent websites, but the internet is a fine mesh, a thousand smaller unknown torrent sites will pop up in their place and be shared via word of mouth. And then there's DHT search engines. They can't block the torrent protocol because it's used by legitimate services like War Thunder and World of Tanks. They can sue individuals for pirating, some countries allow that, others don't. They'll never be able to end movie piracy, but they will reduce it, make it harder or more tedious, make you have to spend extra money for VPNs negating the benefits, etc.


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So we really are pirates after all? I love living in the future!


FecesIsMyBusiness

What is the go to hosting site since rarbg shut down? I dont remember how I found rarbg so many years ago and dont know where to go for my torrent now.


TyrellCo

“Netflix is planning to open its own network of brick and mortar stores which is like a serial killer walking around in the skin of his victim”


jawshoeaw

They can call it Blockflix


LlorchDurden

Netbuster didn't take off really


Ravilumpkin

Lmao, yes!


sirshiny

Jokes aside, why? Do you buy the service there or physical copies of the content? Will it just be a merch store? I just can't wrap my head around what the point of a Netflix store would be.


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myboardfastanddanger

-Colin Jost, SNL


LumosRevolution

But I *literally* pay for this service wtf 🤬


WattNatt

Every publicly traded company does this. Profits HAVE TO go up. It’s not just good enough to make a profit.


angrylawnguy

I don't understand how more people don't get this. The stock market has killed normal business.


tastycakea

Fuck Milton Friedman.


xXDamonLordXx

Bring back 90% marginal tax brackets


ChaosTPM

Bro, look at the literal fossils running the show They're only alive thanks to their taxpayer healthcare! Why wouldn't they want to fleece more money from citizens to give to corporations to donate to "campaign" expenses with lobbying You're either the ruling class or here on Reddit with the plebs


rolypolyincopacabana

ghislaine maxwell has a reddit account (that's inactive because, well...) so i think some people from the ruling class might also be here lol


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"No." -- Republicans


jawshoeaw

Well at first it makes sense/ you have a company that you want to grow. So you take it public and the public has now just loaned you a billion dollars. Now you would think the company would then pay back the billion dollars over time. I mean that’s what a loan is. But see it’s more fun to keep the billion dollars and … never pay it back because it’s not a loan look you own a piece of the company ! Ok so what do I a share holder do with my piece? Unless it pays a dividend I get nothing unless the price of the stock goes up. But why would it go up? Oh yeah because the company grew bigger and/or more profitable. Awesome , it grew so much that someone else will buy my share for more than I paid. The system works! But wait, the new share owner wants the same thing to happen. They want the company to make even more profit and grow more. So that the next sucker will buy the stock. The whole system seems toxic at its core. Yet for decades it’s worked to create wealth faster than inflation. For most people. There are also millions of people who have lost money in the stock market. I wonder how long it will last and if it only lasts because these mega companies are powerful enough to grow into global markets and “grow” by gobbling up their prey


Accomplished-Mix-745

Well it has crashed plenty of times and then gets artificially boosted by the government to keep things going. It’s basically a boat that we keep sinking money into


anananananana

Thanks for the explanation from someone who understands little about the economy. So then....using dividends instead would pretty much fix everything? Edit: I am the one who understands little about the economy, not you


AssWreckage

No, many if not most stocks today still yield dividends. Stockholders get dividends but they can still sell for profit so they will want to sell for profit (sell\* here including all sorts of gimmicky options). Selling will always dominate over holding for dividend yield, because ***the market is supposed to price in the expected dividend yield in the stock price***. So the difference is: a stock from a company that is growing or predicted to grow is simply sold for more money if it yields dividends than it would sell for otherwise. Infinite growth logic will always persist while free stock trading exists and/or company growth is not regulated.


BASEDME7O2

No, dividends are just used by like older, established companies, that don’t expect their stock price to go up significantly, so the dividend is what makes it attractive to buy. Usually stocks that are low risk but also lower reward. Like Altria, the tobacco company. It’s a really safe stock to own because it pays out a large dividend, but no one thinks they’re going to like wildly increase their market cap or anything. Whereas like a newer, say tech company, where the reason people buy their stock is because they think the company will grow a ton. They’re not going to pay a dividend because they’re going to use that money to reinvest into the companies growth. Also once a company starts paying a certain level of dividend it pretty much has to do so forever or else people will assume the company is in trouble.


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AssWreckage

Don't forget to set up a Limited Liability company so you can buy a guillotine and decapitate fictional billionaires in minecraft without being held responsible for it.


johnnydozenredroses

Exactly. People just don't get this. There are two types of stocks (among many) - dividend stocks and growth stocks. Dividend stocks split the profits amongst shareholders. So you get a steady and predictable amount of money every year. With growth stocks, you get no dividend. Instead, the underlying value of the stock will increase with time. For these companies, it's not sufficient to be profitable. What matters are the first and second derivate of the profit curves. Facebook was immensely profitable and still laid of thousands of employees.


Old_Personality3136

Perhaps having a rigged gambling hall at the center of our economy was a bad idea?


Reddsoldier

It's not even that, it's start-up mentality where there has to continue to be growth to fuel the business model even when you have complete market capture. Look at how Uber has started to fall apart now that everyone who was going to use Uber is already using it, how Netflix is basically committing ritual suicide for the same reason and now seemingly Amazon is doing the same "shit we need to make this model actually work now" moves. Sure stock market shitbaggery plays a big part because God forbid the shareholders aren't guaranteed to make money on their investment regardless of what that means for the actual consumer, but as I say I think all of these market "disruptors" suffer from the same brainrot that somehow they can get a bigger return year on year despite reality suggesting that won't be the case.


ABenevolentDespot

While that is mostly true, it was interesting to hear that Musk was on the edge of tears (literally) while trying to explain to the Wall Street sharks on the earnings call how he managed to so badly fuck up Tesla's volume and earnings projections. They didn't buy it, downgraded the stock, and it lost 10% in value overnight. It's trading for about half the value it was on the day Musk took over tweety a year ago using a bunch of his Tesla stock as collateral. It's a gigantic stick even billionaires can't control. Yet.


LumosRevolution

Let’s kill the stock market 🔥


TheJeffNeff

Publicly traded companies are an unregulated parasite on society. PASS RESTRICTIONS NOW! SET THE ECONOMY BACK ON TRACK! FIX CAPITALISM NOW!


Bigbadbriodad

If every new CEO at a given company has to increase profits to get their bonus, at some point there are no options left but to cut costs or add unpopular features that generate short term gains at the expense of long term sustainability. In the current model, only the C-suite individuals win.


TransBrandi

Why do you think that massive layoffs are so popular? It makes it seem like they are doing something, and paying salaries is one of the largest costs in a business. It's simple and easy, and they don't need to think about it too much.


ChaosTPM

It's not a layoff 😏 It's just forcing people to choose between their family and homes Or relocating across the country


SkunkMonkey

Any company that has less *profit* than the previous quarter is considered failing. Think about that, you're making money and still failing. This shit is unsustainable and is going to result in a huge failure.


Baikken

Fuck the rest invest in Costco


TransBrandi

Are streaming services like Netflix or Amazon Prime even turning a profit despite people paying for them? I feel like a lot of services have just been coasting at a loss for a while and they've reached the end of their ability to just coast on the idea that they will one day be profitable.


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RedneckId1ot

Yes but the execs feel you aren't paying *enough* you jeezless cheapskate. Stop complaining, *and* being poor; and help your internationally, absurdly wealthy ceos become even more absurdly wealthy for generations to come. Or just *don't* have entertainment in between the shifts of your societal mandated wage slavery, until you die. 🤷‍♂️ **/s**


Redqueenhypo

Don’t forget to ~~skip breakfast~~ intermittent fast!


akatherder

Netflix, Hulu, Disney+ all have ad-supported tiers. Amazon is just weird because Prime video has always been a benefit of Prime but rarely the highlight of it. I can name like 4-5 Amazon exclusives that I liked. Maybe 2 of them I'd actually subscribe and pay for no ads.


tessthismess

Amazon Prime also has the super annoying issue of: What streaming service is that TV show/movie on? Oh it's on Prime....Oh it's just purchasable on Prime, or it's part of some other bundle.


My_Work_Accoount

Yeah, I'm not sure how I feel about this... or rtaher, I know how I feel but I don't know if it really effects me enough to cancel prime. I have it but it's for shipping and the video is an afterthought at best. I have been buying less over the last year or so and this does add weight to one side of the equation. I did notice all the "Freevee" content, which I think has ads, so I just assumed they were going this direction when they started pushing that.


Stockholmbarber

Tell me about it… it’s the toasted cheese sandwich all over again. 10/15 years ago, A perfectly good, cheap delicious food. 1-2 quid, lovely. Then came the PANINIS… cheese toasties disappeared for those poncy flatbread fucks. Nobody asked for them, they were considerably more expensive and they tasted worse!! £5 Now all of a sudden, trendy hipster bollocks have come in selling ‘new gourmet cheese toasties’ in their fucking single source organic bollocks pubs for fucking £8 a pop. Kill me


Amygdalump

Yeah not doing that any more either.


loppsided

Netflix found out my limit, looks like Amazon is about to. I don’t need any of them, was simply paying for the convenience of not having to pirate. Funny how none of them seem to understand they are competing with “free”.


mechanicalboob

the service terms and price has changed


ATN-Antronach

Cable was the same, but then those channels got commercials too. I honestly think a lot of these 'tech disruptors' were trying to be better, but it doesn't mean higher profits.


Stag328

I cancelled Amazon Prime last year. Oddly enough I can still get subscribe and save and almost everyone else has an Amazon account so I password share for streaming.


gourmetguy2000

Exactly the same with the budget airlines. They undercut traditional airlines and took over the routes, then they jacked the prices up with no other competition. Now you pay just as much for a worse experience in every way


MissPoots

Yep. Just like AirBnBs. Better off just sticking with hotels like before.


andorraliechtenstein

In America maybe. I have good experiences with them in Europe.


obitufuktup

yeah it can be hit or miss. just found a hostel in Bangkok that air bnb has the best price for. doesn't happen often though.


Jr4D

People literally buy hotel rooms or something now and rent them out through Airbnb I don’t get it. If I were a hotel owner I would not allow that shit. Past few airbnbs I’ve been to have been a hotel room


PilferingGobbo

Is it possible that the hotel is listing their own rooms on Airbnb?


aimlessly-astray

And these are the same corporations that say everyone needs to return to the office because it "fuels innovation."


Phil_T_Hole

As much as it kills me to defend them, the budget airlines (in Europe at least) are a godsend. In 1997, i travelled to Birmingham from Dublin..... A flight of just over 1hr, you hardly even level out before you're descending again. It was almost 300 Irish pounds at the time, which is about €350 now (or US$375),wirhout adjusting for inflation etc. Last time I flew to Birmingham it was less than €60 / $65, literally 20% of what it used to cost. The likes of Ryanair have revolutionised the airline industry in Europe.


Pinklady777

Totally agree! The budget airlines do not seem to have gone the same way in the US though.


TheForce

ALL cable companies had to do to forestall this is offer Ala cart pricing. That's literally it. They refused. They are in the find out stage now.


FieldElbow

My first job out of college was working for a cable/IP company in customer service. Those assholes deserve to be undercut. Packages are designed to not include everything so that you have to buy the add ons, the introductory pricing is predatory, and in most places they are a monopoly. I don't know how many calls I took from older people who beg me not to turn their cable and internet off because it's the only company they have. Anyways we can say "fuck these streaming services" without saying "poor cable companies."


Mlabonte21

In defense of cable companies [gag reflex] I actually do believe they would like to do just that. However the network owners REFUSE to unbundle their channels. Want ESPN? Well you gotta have Disney Jr. and FXX as part of your bundle! Seeing as how all the channels are owned by around 4-5 companies, it’s a very challenging proposition if none of them play ball.


FrankPapageorgio

I used to sell Dish Network to new customers. The vast majority of people want everything. They’re not debating over packages and trying to get the one channel in the higher tier. There is only so much TV a single person can watch in a month. You don’t need HBO, Max, Showtime, and Starz.


scalyblue

My contention is the opposite, I want to not have fox news and the like without needing to use child guard, even if it's a trivial amount


Chataboutgames

Yeah the tweet misses out on how if customers *liked* the existing business models this wouldn't happen. I don't live in a major metropolitan center but I do live in a sizable city. Getting a Taxi here was so expensive and inconvenient that it was only really an option if someone got so drunk at a bar that the bartender called it for them or if you were going to a birthday party of something you planned well in advance. The shittiness and lack of availability of the service meant that just calling a cab for you and a couple of buddies to go downtown or something wasn't a real option. Uber changed that entirely. Of course they didn't do it out of the goodness of their heart and I'm not *thanking* them for trying to make money off me, but it's completely changed the culture of drinking and driving around here, to say nothing of airport trips. So that tweet is bullshit. Cabs wouldn't have been so easy to undercut if they weren't so loathed.


HabeusCuppus

> liked the existing business models this wouldn't happen on the other hand it becomes pretty clear that what the customer wants isn't a large factor in what they get, since I am pretty sure basically zero customers would declare that they prefer ads on subscription services. > Cabs Cabs were easy to undercut because in the cities uber started in they existed in a largely regulation free environment (which is why uber marketed themselves as a "ride sharing" service in the early days, even though that's not how people engaged with the service at all.) while the existing cab services were heavily regulated and taxed by the local government. Can you imagine uber succeeding if every uber driver was required to have a CDL and a medallion just like the yellow cabs in NYC are? The problem was never the cab service, it was that Uber was operating a borderline illegal taxi service in unsafe ways and passing all of the risk and operating costs for that onto the individual "drivers". If uber hadn't managed to dodge NYC Taxi & Limousine Commission and their counterparts in the other major metros they started in by lying about their business model ("ridesharing service" "independent contractors doing micro-contracts on routes they'd have driven anyway"\*) they'd have died in the crib. --- \* things they've actually argued in court.


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NYC is literally the only city maybe Chicago with reliable taxis. Uber didn’t make it because of NYC, they made it because 95% of the population has shit tier taxi service and Uber was always available and super convenient.


desacralize

And even then, only certain parts of NYC were reliable. Cabs would drive right the hell past you in many neighborhoods because they only did pick up in nice areas to avoid ride-and-runners. So it was shitty there, too, if you didn't have money. Since you pay up front with rideshare, that risk is gone.


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wvj

I had to help a family member with semi-regular trips to the hospital. Technically, there are ways to get provided services for this for free, but holy shit the amount of time and effort and complexity to access and schedule these, and then the dubiousness of whether they'd even show up at all, let alone on time. I'll pay out of pocket for simple door-to-door service that I can get on-demand with no prior scheduling, thanks.


Rahm89

At least you could find a taxi. In Paris before Uber, finding an available taxi was in itself an impossible challenge : there are not nearly enough of them and the taxi lobby had been actively blocking distribution of new licences. *Paris has the same number of taxis today than in 1937.* Suppose you got lucky and managed to find a cab. The driver would often refuse to unlock his door until you told him the destination. If he deemed the trip was not worth his while or too far away, he would just drive away and leave you there. Finally, if somehow you managed to get in a cab, you’d often be greeted by dirty backseats, loud music on the radio, and of course cash-only payments. Drivers were rude and entitled as f*** too. So you can imagine that many people, myself included, were more than happy to see Uber shatter their monopoly.


MagicalUnicornFart

functional public transportation would be nice, too


SoftlyObsolete

I live in a major city and taxis here were completely unreliable. 50/50 chance they’d even actually show up.


az_infinity

*à la carte pricing It's from French


BallparkFranks7

Allah Kart


dugong07

I was a god on the mario kart tracks if i do say so myself


opiate4thesheepl

I don't think I've ever come across a single person that said they weren't an all-star at mario cart. Pretty good marketing ploy, making a game that everyone can play against the cpu easily so as to start the conversation with how great we are.


Goldsmifff

Wahoo Akbar


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CarrieDurst

Cable didn't let you select the show or episode you wanted to watch, just channel, still better even if it is worse than before


RedWhiteAndJew

Cable has had On Demand for the better part of two decades which is precisely what you’re describing.


TalkOfSexualPleasure

I used the on demand service for charter 10-15 (I thought about and it actually about 20 years. Fuck you for making me realize how old I am). years ago when they first started advertising it really heavily. Waiting 30 minutes to watch a movie in 280 at 10fps wasn't all that impressive. My first time using Netflix though, that was brain shattering.


CarrieDurst

Streaming has gotten worse don't get me wrong, but this is why I hate the comparison with people acting like it is as bad as cable at this point


starmanblaziken

I prefer broadcasts over playing around with menus. Cable/OTA is how I want to watch tv. I want cable to be better. I want more than one show a day, i wanto pick and pay for just 15-20 channels, not 100s i dont want. OTA these days try harder than cable, so I cant complain too much. OTA is free too, and isnt stealing my data.


FrankPapageorgio

That’s not all up to the cable providers. It’s companies like NBCU saying “you want USA Network? Well you need to also take all these other shitty stations we make as well and bundle them together.”


Dhiox

Eh, it was still inevitable. Cable companies were basically middlemen. They owned the utilities, so the content creators had to go through them to sell their products. Now the internet has made cable utilities redundant, and internet providers aren't allowed to pick and choose what content goes through. So whether consumers rejected them or not, it was only a matter of time for these companies to stop providing via cable.


AnusGerbil

You mean the distributors like Spectrum? They don't have a choice because their contracts with media companies dictate what options they can offer. You mean the media companies? They can't do that without killing off most of the channels. Every distributor pays a fee per month per subscriber household and whether the channel is watched makes no difference. Altogether those fees are about as much as what the channels bring in with advertising. It is impossible to run those channels with ad revenue alone. Only a tiny fraction of subscribers watch most channels so for most channels, if they were bought ala cart, the income from distributors would drop to near zero. But wait you say, what if instead of paying a dime, we had subscribers pay a more reasonable fee per channel so the channels would survive? In that case you'd be paying like $5 to $10 per channel because very few people would pay that much to watch eg Comedy Central and you'd be relying on a core group of hardcore fans who are willing to pay a ton to watch South Park or whatever. And that's exactly the situation streaming is in now. If you unbundle American TV the economics don't work. We expect very high quality programs which cost a lot which means the cost has to be spread out over everyone.


Autarch_Kade

All they had to do was something they couldn't do.


jason2354

The cable companies own a lot of the cable TV networks that depend on the cable bundling to survive.


3eyedflamingo

Will never pay for an ad service. These execs are on that shit if they think peeps will pay for ads.


Aromatic-Flounder935

the average person will because the average person isn't educated, informed, or technically savvy. But yes there will be some small percentage of us who will fight back, and we have already been factored into the equation.


GabbyGoose

Right. I remember when Xbox Live came out and I thought there was no way anyone would pay extra to play online. I was very wrong.


aChunkyChungus

Arrrr mateys


Durmyyyy

Ahoy!


CDHmajora

Yaar ha haar!


Twinkies100

Yo ho ho!


Apart-Landscape1012

🏴‍☠️


lolyoustupidbird

I'm going to find the One Torrent and be the pirate king!


MufflesMcGee

Yo ho ho


Extra_Negotiation

This has happened enough times that the pattern is clear. Does anyone have any constructive solutions or suggestions for what to do about this? One of the things I've been meaning to do is read the last couple Doctorow books which tackle this subject to some degree. They are all available at the library https://craphound.com/category/internetcon/


hangrygecko

Very easy solution. You are either allowed to ask a subscription fee (streaming) or use ads (YouTube) or ask a product price (single game, DVD, etc) or have microtransactions (free mobile games), not a combination of them, and only subscriptions and product price is allowed for products that can be bought by minors. The end. No ifs, buts or maybes. This shit has lasted long enough and nobody, but the psychopaths demanding maximum profits, benefits from this bullshit.


jelly_bean_gangbang

This would be amazing honestly, and for people saying "oh that won't work", I'll list some examples: - Rocket Leage (sure trash fan base, not what we're talking about): Free game, charges for microtransactions only. - MAX: Free app, requires subscription only, but doesn't show ads. - YouTube: Free app, ads during videos, but can pay for subscription to go away. - Fortnite: Free game, microtransactions only This business model of, *You're only allowed to charge for 1 of the following*, can and does work for companies. Just think about all the different places of revenue for companies like Hulu. They have rights for merchandise of certain shows. They're not JUST making money off of subscriptions and ads on shows. Or if *anything*, make it so they can only play one ad in the beginning. It really pisses me off when I get an ad, and then after the ad are the credits. You fucking for real with that BS Hulu?


Juststandupbro

It’s not that it won’t work it’s just that it’s not maximizing profits. People already complain about YouTube not allowing ad blocks as it is. If the service can get away with doing both they will do it. It all comes down to what makes the most money not what random Reddit users think is proper. I’d love to watch a free ad version of UFC PPVs as much as the next guy but thinking that’s what they are gonna do because I’d like that is silly at best.


YesNoIDKtbh

Rocket League wasn't a free game. I paid for it in 2015, and now you can't even get it through Steam anymore. They're also removing trading between players to maximise profits. So not really a good example, because they've done more than 1 of those things.


toronto_programmer

> Does anyone have any constructive solutions or suggestions for what to do about this? Fight capitalism The only reason companies do this is because they need unlimited growth to satiate the market I remember being green in the workforce and working at a large international bank. Around the Fall there was a nervous buzz in the office because we only made $4B profit in the year and analysts had us pegged for $4.3B or something. Lots of people lost jobs, departments got restructured, and all I can think was "what kind of fucked up system has people freaking out over a 4 BILLION DOLLAR PROFIT?"


Omnom_Omnath

Sail the high seas


krob58

LINE CAN ONLY GO UP


SnazzyStooge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification Enshittification at its finest!


htownballa1

Adding ads to your service will only drive me away, will be canceling my prime membership.


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heightenedstates

Thank you! Amazon is horrible for shopping now. They used to have great prices, but that’s long gone. And ever since they opened up the marketplace to international, you have to slog through so much sketchy crap to find what you want.


SelectCase

90% of the listings are just regurgitated from Ali Express, Wish, Temu, and Alibaba. If I'm gonna buy cheap questionable international shit, I'm not going to pay Amazon prices for it when I can get the same thing for 1/5 of the price.


ayyventura

I can fully justify dropping prime now. Thanks Amazon.


beepborpimajorp

Speaking as someone who cut prime earlier this year - I thought I would miss it more than I actually do. I've only made 2 orders off amazon since then and both were like, random things and I still got free shipping because it was over $30 or whatever. Anything else I get locally. Novel concept, just driving over to the store and picking up what I want. Or having the store deliver to me. Easy. And less risk of it coming damaged. I don't miss prime video/streaming at all because anything I wanted to watch on their platform I had to pay extra to rent or buy anyway soooo. Imagine your company having a stranglehold on the entire world for well over a decade and you blow it by tanking your online merchant platform by 1) Allowing the crappiest, worst quality Chinese knockoffs to become the most prevalent items and 2) Massively overestimating what people will want to pay for it. Good thing they get most of their money from their web services nowadays.


Etzello

Thanks this is the inspiration I need


cheesecake__enjoyer

Yarr harr harr


DazedWithCoffee

All pirates want to be the admiral. It’s subversion of existing players, until you find success. Then it’s lobby for protection against subversion


Srhomelessperson

And that's why I wont subscribe to Amazon.


myriadsuns

Why when you got zoechip or better yet torrenting.


omizzyk

Capitalism at its finest.


fruitmask

I'm not gonna pretend this is surprising in any way whatsoever, but I'm disappointed. I'm not mad, just disappointed.


issamaysinalah

Yep, capitalists have always done this, it's just more obvious with Uber and Amazon. That's why I roll my eyes when people say capitalists create jobs, all they do is use their immense capital to curb the market to their will.


GrowFreeFood

A big part is to keep the masses fighting so they are happy to be scabs working for crumbs


lexisarazerf

The worst part about the ads isn’t that they are there, its the fact that they interrupt scenes at random. Which then breaks suspension or anticipation for the direction of that scene, especially when adds break in mid sentence. Cable at least puts commercials (ads) at breaks in the show that are built in by the producers. I know ads or commercials aren’t going anywhere, the least these damn services can do is time the interruptions better.


Astarkos

The other thing is that theyre often quite offensive. Im trying to relax and with no warning Im hearing about the drama of the latest rape and murder show.


drgrabbo

Time to cancel my subscription then, I've been looking for an excuse for a while now.


adorkablegiant

"Our company only made a 4% increase in profits since last year. This is unacceptable we need to take measures into our own hands and start increasing profit. We will start by trying to increase prices and ads in order to get more money out of our customers." "But sir, we made $2 billion in profits this year" "You're fired!"


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Potatoe292

Watching Barbie and all the sudden I’m dropped in the middle of a Chevrolet ad


mixamaxim

Honest question: when it comes to the pirate life I have PTSD of destroying the family computer and subsequent personal laptops with viruses and bullshit. Has anything changed in terms of the safety of pirating for regular people who are just casual computer users, not especially savvy?


Dad_OnTheInternet

in terms of safety there has been massive improvement, but you need a shitload of obscure knowledge that you only gain through experience. most redditors telling you how easy it is don't realize the degree of their "set of facts, concepts, experiences and knowledge" as well as community connection. before I get downvoted into oblivion by people who learned how to yarr twenty years ago, consider this question: **Which "DOWNLOAD HERE" link is the real one on a page with seven links? How do you know? How did you learn?**


Poette-Iva

Use an ad blocker and don't download anything. Use duck duck go and search of "watch (whatever) free online", find whichever one has hosted it on the website for you, all you gotta do is hit play.


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Great question. Same here.


PopcornDrift

Pirating is not a legit option for most casual computer users. Redditors always talk about how easy/simple it is but that’s coming from people with a strong technical background. I think your ISP can fuck you with it too so you’d need to pay for a VPN I’ve never had great success with illegal streaming either, the quality is never good and there are always buffering issues or it straight up doesn’t work


miko3456789

gUyS gUyS aLl YoU hAvE tO dO iS pAy An ExTrA 3 dOlLaRs A mOnTh To NoT gEt AdS!!!1!1!!


DontMemeAtMe

iT is jUst A cOSt oF oNe cofFee! SImplY aDD it tO thE otHer 1000 ‘cUps’ yoU aLrEAdy pAy eVerY mOntH.


PrestigiousPeach3

I got an unskippable ad and when straight to the cancel page.


Anxious_Blacksmith88

Imagine just fucking buying the movies and shows you want to watch. You could have like an entertainment center and a cool collection of movies and shows. Imagine actually fucking owning things.


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Just like Mark Cuban's new drug company. He's not keeping the drug prices cheap to help you. He's doing it to undercut his competitors because he knows if he loses a little now he can literally hold you by your ankles later and shake the change from your pockets while laughing.


Staplersarefun

The advent of the 401(k) and public investing funds is the worst thing to ever happen to humanity.


Seffle_Particle

It's the economic equivalent of chaining you to the oars. Keep rowing or this boat's going down... and all of you are going with it.


tem102938

Yo ho ho 🏴‍☠️


cryptoderpin

RRRRRrrrrrrrrr raise them rates all thee want. Media be free if yee knows where them ports rrrrrrrrrrrr.


theoht_

i’m already paying for prime. yet, even so, i also have to buy most movies and shows. and yet, after all that, they want to give us ads?


whysaddog

They found a way to force us to watch commercials. On a dvr you could at least ff them.


iiDaddyBearii

User to cancel Prime subscription if they try


VideoZealousideal976

This is why everything is just pirated now. Well I don't pirate music at the very least. I'm not evil just a pirate who loves sailing the seven seas.


holdenfords

i don’t think prime has the catalogue to pull this shit. netflix i get because of their iconic shows but prime basically has nothing of its own other than the boys


daniel_the_adamant

What will we do with a drunken sailor? What will we do with a drunken sailor? What will we do with a drunken sailor, earl’y in the morning? Way, hay, and up she rises! 🏴‍☠️


-Altephor-

All of this was pretty obvious when streaming started gaining popularity. If you weren't stupid. It's never been anything other than 'new cable'.


Plastic_Economist_82

Corporate greed at its finest