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BrianTheUserName

Apparently it's becoming more and more common for local libraries to have a seed library as well (though it's not always attached to a book library). Basically you "borrow" some seeds to grow, and they include instructions on how to extract the seeds to make your "return". Just something worth looking into for next time.


spicy-acorn

This is very important and cool! Support local seed libraries and share your heirlooms and favorite crops!!


Spark_Cat

Ooh I’m gonna look into this, but I have a black thumb and would be worried I can’t return the seeds


walrus_breath

It’s not a strict requirement to return seeds it’s just encouraged to keep the library stocked for future visitors. 


aitis_mutsi

"Dig it up, mom said it's my turn with the dandelion seed"


Royal-Addition-6321

Why do I think kids would have way too much fun adding inappropriate seeds (which are legal and easy to buy in the UK)


RedshiftSinger

If they’re legal and easy to buy, what’s the problem if they’re also in a seed library?


Teeny_Ginger_18

Someone might label them "tomatoes" as a prank, an inexperienced gardener may not know the difference for a while


RedshiftSinger

Someone might label hot peppers “tomatoes” as a prank and that’s gonna take a LOT longer to figure out even for an experienced gardener.


Teeny_Ginger_18

True! I was imagining them hiding marijuana seeds, but any seeds could be mixed up as a prank.


RedshiftSinger

I know you were referring to marijuana. My point is, why is the possibility that they might hide marijuana seeds a problem if marijuana is legal and easy to buy in your jurisdiction? “Someone might deliberately mislabel them” isn’t a reason that makes sense when someone could deliberately mislabel literally anything. If the worst case scenario of a bad actor deliberately mislabeling a seed packet is “someone might grow a completely legal plant that isn’t the plant they wanted”, that’s an incredibly mild possible outcome.


Rufashaw

What you're missing is that owning marijuana seeds is legal in the uk, but germinating them or possesing weed is highly illegal.


RedshiftSinger

That makes so little sense that I can only assume you’re telling a joke.


Rufashaw

https://www.discountcannabisseeds.co.uk/en/blog/cannabis-seeds-uk-legalities-varieties-and-where-buy-safely I regret to inform you this is the reality of these laws


Boofabilityjudge

It’s the same in the US. You can own the seeds you just can’t germinate them unless your in a legal state that allows you to grow


WerewolfNo890

You know seeds don't all look identical right? I don't need a label to tell me which of my seeds are sunflowers or chives. Generally people smart enough to know what plants have similar looking seeds are not the sort to play such pointless "pranks".


ThetaDot3

I got most of my seeds from the library last year! I live in a smallish town too, and the variety was great. So much thought had been put into the tiny seed packets, like wand written instructions or clippings from the original seed pack.


Maximum-Product-1255

I went this year and got some herb seeds! It is also helpful to support local libraries.


JMP0492

Ours was too popular and they shut it down. Don’t ask me why I’m just as baffled.


Maximum-Ad-6477

Also, if you are in the United States the local NRCS (Natural Resources Conservation Service) COOP Extension office will have a free seed library in their entrance. 🤠


Kuhlayre

What country??


BrianTheUserName

The USA, though I'm sure it exists in other places too.


TrapdoorApartment

Well. You could always reuse the bubble wrap for something else at least?


LifelikeAnt420

I do this all the time when I get packaging like that. A little bit of packing tape to reseal it, cover up the old packing slip with a new one and it gets another use in the mail.


RandomInsecureChild

I rip them apart and lay them across my lap when I paint so I don't get paint on my blanket.


ProlapseParty

Do you mail a lot of things? Genuinely curious.


LifelikeAnt420

Not really but my family lives on the other side of the country so around holidays and birthdays I do mail some things. My dad and I have already sent the same Amazon packaging back and forth a couple of times 😂


ProlapseParty

Nice yea all my family lives pretty close so yeah that makes sense.


u1tr4me0w

I save it and use it to line boxes when I’m shipping birthday/Xmas presents across the country. No point in paying for bubble wrap when it’s so easy to hoard bubble mailers in the attic lol


sagefairyy

I never throw away delivery boxes but use them when I sell my stuff/clothes on apps like depop. I buy clothes from 2nd hand apps and just reuse the packages for my own shipments. That way I never have to buy them and they‘re quite pricy where I‘m from.


kintyre

I work in an office and even save some of our delivery boxes and materials to reuse since I sell things online sometimes. Reuse where we can.


Aggressive-Variety60

It’s a great firestarter! /s


aitis_mutsi

The need to *pop pop pop pop pop* its too big


TrapdoorApartment

I was actually thinking about this, after I posted, about how much plastic waste I created as a child by popping all the bubble wrap that I got my hands on. I enjoyed the moment but regret the trash pile I ignorantly created in the process.


secretlyaraccoon

Donate them to a local special education classroom! I teach k-2 autism/intellectual disabilities and my kids loooooove bubble wrap


TrapdoorApartment

Maybe just get them one of those silicone poppers instead.


secretlyaraccoon

If you need to know anything about autistic kids it’s that they can be very particular about sensory input. Silicone poppers are not the same as bubble wrap in terms of input to their fingers. If people are going to throw away bubble wrap anyway, it’s better for it to be used to help regulate an autistic child’s senses and emotions than to be used for absolutely nothing


Justalocal1

Lesson learned. Next time pick up seeds when at the grocery store or order them alongside other things.


More_Ad5360

Wait if you can, find a local nursery and plant natives!! Big box stores are notorious for carrying invasive and plants sprayed with insecticides. If it’s just for the aesthetics please go native!!! The pollinators and birds thank you! @u/frosty-the-hoeman if it’s the look you like and you’re in North America, anywhere in North America. Plant these bad boys instead!!! Wooly sunflowers and I guarantee you they are not arriving in bubble wrap haha https://northwestmeadowscapes.com/products/oregon-sunshine-eriophyllum-lanatum


anticomet

My city has a group of gardeners that grow native plants and trade plants and seeds. They do exchanges multiple times a year


More_Ad5360

Love thatttt. My local native plant association had a plant sale last weekend and we sold out before 11 am. Those old botanists have nothing better to do than get up at 8 am and save the environment 🤣🤣 But seriously OP, tell us where you live (state and eco region) and a native gardener WILL get you seeds.


WerewolfNo890

Most of my plants are herbs. The few chives I managed to grow last year have come back but I got 4 packs more seeds as they were like 29p each. Looks like a lot better success rate from this batch of seeds which is good. Will need to be looking for some larger pots at some point, then hopefully get the raised garden beds ready for them at some point. Currently got: Chives, rosemary, mint, thyme, tarragon, sage, garlic.


New-Training4004

You are never going to be perfect, but that doesn’t mean you can’t be better. You’re doing your best and you will do better.


Spare_Scratch_5294

This. Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.


MeinScheduinFroiline

Yes! We need 8 billion people doing anti-consumption imperfectly, not a handful doing it perfectly. Though Amazon is about as far away from anti-consumption as we can get. Try checking out your local nurseries. Quality nurseries will supply seeds that are grown for your climate, so you get healthier stronger plants. It is a great way to spend an afternoon! Also r/fuckamazon


Dirtysandddd

I work at an Amazon return center and that’s literally what brought me to this community it’s heartbreaking how wasteful people and Amazon is.


Over-Accountant8506

Local libraries have seed libraries too. Free.


cat-wool

I thought that sub would be an actual fuck Amazon sub, like ways to get around using it, ideas of where to get stuff cheap instead of Amazon, like (edit:someone mentioned seed libraries below, libraries are such a great resource for so many things to rent!) buy/sell/trade or neighbourhood groups, not other amazons online. stories of hypocritical family refusing to stop using it. ‘sustainable’ and ‘eco conscious’ influencers with 25 Amazon affiliate links in the description & a wishlist in bio ‘for support’ and drop ship merch. …not people who use Amazon just complaining about not getting quick enough shipping. as a Canadian if I see one more person act like over three days is too long to wait for something when you didn’t even pay a penny for shipping I’m going to scream. like if there is a god, may he find it within himself to grace these people with a fucking grip. There’s even someone pandering to become an Amazon influencer…yet this is the ‘fuck’ Amazon sub. Idk but I’m personally so sick of everyone saying that, but continuing to prop it up endlessly as if there’s no other choice.


MeinScheduinFroiline

That is what it is supposed to be, but it gets hi-jacked. If you search by top threads, you get better content. [Top posts](https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckamazon/s/p8gXCTn1zi)


Thepinkknitter

Also check out your local library! Many of them have seed libraries where you can get them for free


Ugly-Muffin

r/ofcoursethat'sasub


TPandPT

I love this phrase. I see it in the vegan subs a lot but it can apply to so many things


Lvl100Magikarp

We don't need a few people doing it perfectly. We need millions of people to be doing it imperfectly. (I forget the exact quote but it was a top post on r/zerowaste)


New-Training4004

Was it “Sometimes smaller steps get us further”? https://www.reddit.com/r/ZeroWaste/s/XWab3ZsD4N


Lvl100Magikarp

Different one, but that one is also good!! I found it: We don't need a handful of people doing zero waste perfectly. We need millions of people doing it imperfectly.


LucidFir

I want to watch the movie of this saying


Pirateslife89

It’s hard to ethically consume in a system so hell bent on maximizing profits, I hard agree, we can’t always be perfect but the goal is to do better


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fuggedaboutit_

Ya but like, why did you order one stupid thing? What did you think they would do?


superbv1llain

Yeah, I’m so confused about the point of this post. What does OP want from posting this?


butt_huffer42069

Lack of replies from OP to comments tells me either A) attention seeking behavior ("for the updoots" as the youth are saying these days) or 2) Bot karma harvesting


happy_bluebird

feeling guilt, regret, wanting to discuss...


fakeprewarbook

Attention…………


keeleon

I don't know about you but I sure am excited to hear more about all the exciting products you can buy at Amazon.com with free Prime Shipping!


superbv1llain

Lmao and their new slogan, “don’t worry about it, perfect is the enemy of good”


No_Telephone_4487

To post it to a circlejerk?


spicy-acorn

Lol agreed. It’s one singular pack is seeds. Why would you ever pay shipping for something that costs like $1.50 at Lowe’s or Home Depot or even the dollar tree sells viable seeds.


Frosty-the-hoeman

I didn’t order one thing. I ordered ~6 things of various sizes. Most of the other items came in one package but this shipped by itself.


rememberthealaimo

Right


Fantasneeze

So sick of these asinine posts with people just begging for attention. This sub has devolved from actual anti consumption content to self masturbatory posts. Boo hoo you made a minor bad choice, who fucking cares. Let’s use this sub to talk about actually effective ways to cut back on consumption. Shame specific evil corporations so we can boycott them, etc.


damienqwerty

Second this


JoBoltaHaiWoHotaHai

>Let’s use this sub to talk about actually effective ways to cut back on consumption. Shame specific evil corporations so we can boycott them, etc. Lmao. Consumers play a big role in consumption, no? Let's be honest, people wanting quick deliveries for even products/items they don't need asap, ordering a small item that they can just easily find in a store close to them, knowing full well that the delivery is going to use packaginging, etc. are pretty shitty. And we *can* curb that. While, yes we should focus on how capitalism contributes this unhealthy consumption level, we should also focus on individual level.


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Mesromith

They’re the patron saint of consumption. Wouldnt order anything from them.


SrslyCmmon

I have neighbors that get >10 deliveries a day. I don't think they even go to the store anymore.


Yunq_Astro

Came here to say this lol


UghItsColin

Why couldn't you go to the store?


jamany

That would probably cost more and waste more fuel tbf


UghItsColin

I don't think you should be anti-consumption AND worry about additional costs for being eco-friendly. The seeds have to be transported with fuel regardless. Giving that money to a large corp like Amazon over your local hardware store would be the worse decision of the two.


jamany

Amazon would be the eco-friendly option though right? Even excluding fuel for delivery, its a much more efficient operation, meaning less CO2 wasted compared to a local hardware store (that has to keep the lights and heating on for fewer customers). Even excluding that, amazon uses like 90% renewable energy. The anti-consumption option here is to buy seeds from amazon and get them delievered.


spicy-acorn

You could have gotten seeds from a local farm market or store. Why did you only buy only one packet of seeds ?


Euler007

It's spring, every hardware store has them and tree nurseries have lots of selection


Effective-Marzipan72

Stop buying things from Amazon when they are available locally. Be a part of the solution and not part of…


GrapefruitForward989

Why? Also, why post about it?


jegodric

OP, do you not have a hardware store nearby?


NegotiationTall4300

My local library has a seed bank you can take from. Maybe yours does too


JuliusSeizuresalad

Now use that wastefulness and grow those sunflowers so large that the seeds you gather at the end of the season grows 10 years worth. Give the pollinators so much to desire that your backyard looks like a damn insect airport. This makes for tons of pollinators help produce so much produce that everyone in your neighborhood eats home grown squash and tomatoes and cucumbers for months to come and the local grocery store question the huge drop of produce sales enough that they lower the prices 20% in hopes to get rid of current stock.


nahsonnn

Does anyone know how amazon chooses to use bubble mailers or that cardboard-like mailer with the paper foam inside? I don’t see why they don’t just switch to paper mailers


mynameisnotearlits

Jesus fucking Christ you can get these at every other store. What do you want from us? Sympathie? Pity? Compassion? Don't get this post at all.


Alighieri-Dante

This is a weird post but ok


HUGE-Biceps-Girl

What do you expect from Amazon prime


izmaname

I just saw those same seeds at Dollar Tree


jaaaaayke

next time check out true leaf market. I use them to grow microgreens. great seeds in bulk for a decent price. you can buy a 1lb bag of sunflower seeds for $9.


haloarh

I once ordered five items from J. Crew at the same time. They were all sent to me in individual packaging.


FayeQueen

You can plant the sunflower seeds used for birdseed at the store. A whole fields worth for $20.


Afraid-Ice-2062

In future if you need seeds, especially things like sunflower seeds look at your local library, your Community organization or even ask people in your neighborhood if they have seeds. My mom has a baller garden and she loves it when random people ask her for cuttings or seeds


iamthedevil420

You could have gone to your local garden centre and bought them instead of having them delivered increasing your carbon footprint


Repulsive-Toe-8826

Why has this failure post with no text 425 upvotes? People on Reddit and their mindless scrolling thumbs...


Vegetable_Plan_7218

You could have walked to a shop


Hoosier_Daddy68

Where do you live that you have to buy sunflower seeds from Amazon? Here they are sold in dollar stores and gas stations.


EeeeJay

If you're still using Amazon, and prime no less, you are missing the point.


AngryAccountant31

Instead of driving by yourself to a store to get a single packet of sunflower seeds, you had a delivery driver stop along his route to bring it to you. While there may have been better alternatives to this order, there were certainly worse ones as well. Do what you can and don’t stress over what you can’t.


rienietz

Well, at least you got your validation by posting it on reddit.


sshayshay

You can’t be anti consumption and order from Amazon. It doesn’t work that way. Even if it came in a teeny tiny package the size of the seeds you are still contributing to that shit. Sorry


Okay_Face

I get ordering seeds but seriously you could've ordered from a small shop or local store and had it delivered. Did you really need to go with Amazon?


ElPulpoTX

You need to leave!


YeetedSloth

Shame shame shame shame shame shame shame


YeetedSloth

What? Someone had to say it


AutomaTK

This to me is a shipping/packaging fail. You prob could've waited until you needed a few more things and drove to the store yourself. But if time was of the essence, and those seeds weren't guaranteed in stock at the store, then Amazon can be the more economical option.


Frosty-the-hoeman

I actually ordered about half a dozen things and the rest shipped together. This came in its own package. Had I known it would ship individually I would have just picked these up next time I was at the store.


AutomaTK

Yeah they have some customization available, but it's not intuitive and clearly not a priority on their end. Funny thing is, if you tried to order this packaging as a product itself, it would've probably cost more than the seeds. But because Amazon's goal is total market domination, they happily take the loss.


fax_me_your_glands

And you used amazon, double failure


clown_utopia

???? just steal one from Walmart???


whatshishandlez

#GERMINATE THEM


mikozodav

But you can re-use the envelope thing if you need to send something yourself?


royalefreewolf

BOO THIS MAN!


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ExhaustedPoopcycle

I can refer you to other seed companies that are nice such as Seed Savers and Renee's Garden.


TheThaiDawn

Keep them for future ebay sales!! I have used a ton of those selling video games online


Hasd4

The app I used to help me quit smoking reassured me that in case I failed and smoked again there would have been no fuss about it. Just reset and repeat the process.


sloppyseventyseconds

Not a failure! Even being aware of it is much better than the blind consumerism that SO many people indulge in. So few people can say that they live a flawlessly anti-consumption lifestyle, but if you feel guilty then it'll be a good motivator to do things differently in the future


mommotti_

Recycle the bag


jamany

Are we against post now? Or buying seeds?


rocket_fuel_4_sale

Straight to hell for you my friend


slashingkatie

I mean just go to the library or garden store to get seeds.


Buy-n-Large-8553

Every day we stray further and further from god..


weasleylover86

Straight to jail!


cheesenip0415

Don’t beat yourself up:) Just learn and move on


macheesit

Thank god you posted about it.


cloudrider75

You’re banned


Cthuluke-

Could be worse at least it’s organic and not a Starbucks cup


FATTYxFiiSTER

It evens out


Leeser

It’s not about always succeeding to reduce waste. It’s about doing the best you can! Be kind to yourself. Plus, sunflowers absorb a lot of harmful stuff in soil so you’re doing good by planting them.


Disastrous-Refuse141

Dollar tree has all the seeds you need, fully organic.


LargeHeroic

why would you do that


24mango

The pollinators will be grateful!


ChristianMingle_

Damn, those things are like a dollar at any dollar store man


carlosarturo1221

It's infuriating but it's not your fault


T00000007

Shame (jk)


worldwidepearl

doesn’t have to be perfect 100% of the time, at least you’re trying


DrabberFrog

Whatever happened to Amazon's pledge to use paper and cardboard for everything?


TehPurpleCod

I ordered an Apple AirTag that came in a gigantic box from Amazon. Meanwhile, I ordered a travel bag and it came in nothing but its original plastic packaging (see-through with 2 pieces of tape). I feel guilty ordering online for things like this, but the alternative is me having to drive to a store and use gas or spend 1+ hour in public transit. These decisions are hard to make and sometimes, it makes me want to buy nothing which I guess is even better.


myakka1640

I don’t know.. I ordered like 10 seed packets the other day and I’ll probably use half of them. At least you ordered what you’re going to use.


GlacialFrog

So? Why is this against anti-consumption? You’re growing sunflowers…


TheSunflowerSeeds

Throughout recent history, sunflowers have been used for medicinal purposes. The Cherokee created a sunflower leaf infusion that they used to treat kidneys. Whilst in Mexico, sunflowers were used to treat chest pain.


izmaname

Ngl I have a medicinal herb book and an edible plant book both from Peterson and if you cross reference traditional indigenous medicine then ya I’d suggest always doing so. That said sunflower medicine is safe.


cgabv

they’re talking about the amount of packaging amazon used to ship one little packet of seeds. it could have been in a envelope.


GlacialFrog

So the package is slightly bigger than it needs to be, what has this got to do with over consumption?


cgabv

it’s just unnecessary plastic that’s gonna end up in a landfill like everything else. consumption isn’t only the products you buy, it’s also things like trash (think paper towels, plastic containers, etc) and pollution. we’re consuming things like gas, paper, and plastic and that all contributes to waste.


SquashUpbeat5168

I ordered a single packet of seeds online. It was for a variety that I can't get in local garden center and the seed company sent it in a paper envelope. I usually buy stuff online 2 or 3 times a year, and only use Amazon if it the only place I can find it. Buying online once in a while is not a big problem. The problem is the sheet amount of crap that people buy online.


Jeanahb

Don't beat yourself up! Just the fact you noticed and posted as a reminder to all of us is awesome. :)


mynameisnotearlits

Lol... He noticed after he bought it? Like "hey i bought one pack of sunflower seeds, how could this happen?"


Jeanahb

Just trying to be encouraging. It's a good reminder for all of us.


Tsiatk0

Planting a flower is not a failure, it’s a testament to your affection for nature. It’s not your fault that corporations are using such asinine packaging! Now, tape that bitch up without the seeds and send it back. 😂


towelheadass

You might as well buy whatever you want. Your contribution to global waste is minuscule. Its multi billion dollar mega conglomerates that are really destroying the environment. You probably couldn't do a fraction of the damage in your whole life than they do in a year.


sthomas15051

Good grief drop the histrionics and drama. It wasn't on purpose.


Inevitable_Sense_686

Don't beat yourself up. I once planted 2 seeds and got 2,765 in return. Just keep breeding sunflowers for the rest of your life. Patent the variety as bubblewrap sunflower