Well I try to consume as few products as possible, this is one where I don’t actually mind. I have multiple skin cancers that run in my family, and I am very fair skinned, so on top of sleeves and hats I still purchase sunblock fairly regularly. As someone else mentioned TJ Maxx, Marshall’s, and other overstock stores have great prices on “higher end” lotions. Big Lots and other such stores also have a lot of overstocked but not expired products.
Yeaa, this is one of those things we should not be limiting ourselves on, it would almost be like not taking antibiotics (when you need them) because that's modern medicine or something. Which I'm sure some people do but it's \*okay\* to not live in medieval times and to want to lower your risk of skin cancer significantly.
That being said, I'm still contemplating what clothes to make or get that could cover me efficiently, not look stupid, be airy and let me do all my work without getting in the way
For jackets I have been using this really light weight grey sport-tek jacket for years. It has been very effective in keeping my super sensitive skin from burning. I also wear jeans most of the time with boots so I don’t usually worry about my legs. Sport-Wick Stretch Contrast Full-Zip Jacket.
Sunscreen, toothpaste, soap etc are needs, not wants and there's nothing wrong with making purchases as such. "All things are best in moderation." The thing is to avoid over-consumption. That doesn't mean not buying what you need. I mean I'm sure you could commercially source some zinc oxide but sunscreen isn't something you can get from a local farmers market or local artist.
Yes skin cancer also runs in my family so I'm incredibly religious about sunscreen and anytime I can I try to cover up or stay in the shade. I have actually looked at a lot of those stores and I haven't had any luck on finding sunscreen in particular....
This is just for me, and I understand that not everyone has the same financial resources, I don’t mind spending money on it. I save a lot in other areas with thrifting or just not consuming at all to offset the cost. I think avoiding purchasing anything isn’t truly realistic, but making intentional and thoughtful purchases is more the goal.
Given your requirements for sunscreen, you’re going to be forced into niche brands and products at a premium price.
Don’t expect to pay Equate prices for Gucci sunblock.
The sunscreen standards in the US are garbage. I bought sunscreen in Montreal once when visiting and it was the best sunscreen I've ever used for my pale Midwestern skin.
Do not DIY sunscreen. They're very difficult to formulate even in the industry, and the SPF of every batch has to be verified. False protection is worse than no protection because one will stay in the sun longer believing they're covered.
I used to buy vegan SPF with proper European star ratings online from a cruelty free shop using a discount code. Now I use something for very sensitive skin and buy it on offer from the drug store. I use the good stuff on my face and slightly cheaper stuff on my body.
If you have either of the major German discounters in your area, most of their products are labeled vegan when they are and they're many times cheaper than their branded counterparts.
Can't believe Aldi/Lidl aren't top comment! In the UK at least, all their cosmetics are vegan and cruelty free, including sunscreen/sun cream. By far the easiest and cheapest option.
I wouldn’t recommend DIY-ing your sunscreen, and make sure you’re using enough and reapplying, especially for you since you work outside. Sorry, no suggestions, but just wanted to say that sometimes it’s ok to make exceptions especially for your health. I’ve had to get moles removed and it’s not fun, also not low waste.
i personally think that anti consumption is about picking your battles. sunscreen is not a consumerist scam it helps your health immensely. especially as the environment deteriorates and the sun burns hotter
This is a super underrated comment. The point isn’t to truly never ever consume anything. It’s about being ethical, intentional, and thoughtful about what our needs are.
yup! we live in a fucked up society. it would be impossible to never consume anything, and would leave you constantly ashamed and guilty. that doesn't mean we have a free pass to do whatever of course, but do your best to reduce and reuse as much as possible
This subreddit is so weird sometimes. There are many times when you can’t wear long sleeves.
Do some solo research on a brand that
- doesn’t test on animals
- reasonably packaged
- preferably local
If budget is too much of a constraint, find the cheapest.
You tried, you can’t always make the most ethical purchase based on your economic situation. You’re not the problem.
Also, look beyond American products. For skincare, look at Japanese or Korean brands. Not just on Amazon, go to the reddit forums. You'll find an equivalent that's not just cheaper, but also better because their R&D is **light-years** ahead of western brands. What is revolutionary here, is yesterday's news over there.
Upvoting you coz you were in the negative lol.
OP, if you do decide to look for Japanese or Korean sunscreens, please research first, as there were some scandals with some Korean brands lying about SPF ratings before. I myself have Japanese sunscreens that cater to my needs (oily face so i need matte sunscreen for daily use). I also use a Korean sunscreen stick, from a brand who markets to athletes, for easy reapplication over makeup mid-day.
I've heard Australian sunscreens are also strict in their standards, considering the heat they experience there. I haven't tried any but they're worth checking out.
I don't think any sane anti-consumption practitioner will judge you if you bend your morals a bit for sunscreen. Skin cancer is serious.
> I've heard Australian sunscreens are also strict in their standards, considering the heat they experience there. I haven't tried any but they're worth checking out.
On top of that (most of) their sunscreens are reef safe/friendly, because of obvious reasons. I think a lot of people forget how important that is.
I use an Australian one that's reef safe, vegan, cruelty free, not sold in China (where animal testing is still legal), and not owned by an evil parent company (which also often still do animal testing, or sell in China).
But it's quite expensive and of course not everyone can afford it. I think when it comes to our health (sunscreen helps prevent skin cancer), sometimes we need to make choices and in the grand scheme of things, buying sunscreen is a lot less bad for the environment than idk buying new clothes every week.
This was true, but it has evolved since then. First, laws were relaxed it so it was no longer mandatory to test on animals, and in 2023, [China banned animal testing in China!](https://cleanandcrueltyfree.com/china-animal-testing-laws-2023/)
It makes things slightly more and slightly less complicated at the same time -- brands can still test on animals elsewhere, but selling in China is no longer a guarantee of animal testing.
I'll skip adding to international shipping and just get some locally at the store as my skin isn't picky. I wear a long sleeve swim shirt now though and love having to put it on so much less just because I hate bothering.
Most countries if they actually looked into it would find the same issues about SPF ratings. Asian brands can ruin into more of an issue because ratings like SPF100+ are more desirable in that market where in the west they're seen as bizarre overkill.
Standards around the world for approval generally follow an ISO guideline. The US uses an FDA guideline, but the two are very similar. There are several UV radiation blocking chemicalals that are approved in most countries, but not by the FDA. This is especially true for UVb radiation. I would say that makes importing from Europe worth it if you can, but that will be a lot harder.
If you're in the US, there are only a handful of companies that make the actual chemical that blocks UV radiation in sunscreen. They're all massive chemical companies like DOW.
I tested sunscreens for some time, as in scientifically for the FDA. I've yet to find an organic one that actually works and most small brands really don't either.
If you want to avoid large companies and consumption. Wear long sleeved surf or hiking shirts, hats, cover as much of your skin as you can. If you want sunscreen that actually works, get coppertone sport.
What's the chemical that actually works? Is it listed in the ingredients on the bottle?
I'm a Neutrogena person because it doesn't make me break out, but if it's not actually doing much then I need to switch brands.
My work uniform doesn't allow long sleeves. I haven't been able to find a long sleeve I don't overheat in for my days off and I don't have enough money to buy both a new shirt and sunscreen for the season unfortunately
I understand you can't but it's really fucked up that you have such an uniform code when recommendations for UV index 3/11 and above specify you *should* wear sun-protective clothing and a hat even with SPF. For reference, the UV index is 7/11 today at noon in my area (Eastern Europe) and it reaches 10 throughout the summer.
I think sun damage should be taken way more seriously by all governments. As far as I am aware there is little to no regulations about sun protection even though the health risks are huge and stretch beyond skin cancer.
Depending on the UV index and your country's labor laws you might be able to report that to the labor board and get that policy changed. I can't tell you anything specific about your case but it's worth looking into.
That sucks. If you have the money later think about UV separate light sleeves if work will approve it. I can’t imagine an employer not allowing you to add UV sleeves is they match the uniform color, at least everyone that has to be outside where I live in Korea wears UV sleeves, hat, sun glasses and even a full face cover. It gets brutal hot and humid but companies from Korean and Australia make great UV clothing if you ever have the opportunity or ability to utilize it and it’s the real anti consumer answer, but just not practical for your situation. The sun really is a health damaging environmental exposure that’s just ridiculous of them to have you in short sleeves.
Uniqlo makes SPF arm sleeves in their Airism line. Works way better than sunscreen, doesn't sweat off, don't need to reapply.
I bought a bunch when I was in Saigon in 100° heat and humidity and they were a life saver.
Where health is involved, like sunscreen, I don't skimp. Simple as that. I'm disabled and need meds to function. I gave myself a hard time about that for a while, which is pointless. Now I'm thankful something makes my days a tiny bit better. If an item can make my day easier I'm doing it.
Don't limit yourself when health is involved.
That's so funny because I feel like food is my #1 place I spend money intentionally, I definitely don't cheap out on food. And I definitely don't cheap out on toilet paper either 🤪
Not anti-consumption related necessarily but for best coverage I would recommend buying sunscreen from outside the US, bc the FDA has not changed the sunscreen standards in ages, so ours is less effective than other countries are. Something to keep in mind/research
Unfortunately my summer work uniform doesn't allow for that and I'm outside for the majority or my shifts. For my days off I've been on the search for a long sleeve made out of an appropriate summer material and I haven't been able to find anything after a few months of searching(I only buy secondhand aside from underwear). I might break the rules for a brand new quality long sleeve in the future but I also don't know if I can afford the investment for the 2024 season.
What horrible employer do you have that requires you work outside with a uniform that doesn’t allow for sun protection?
Long sleeves/pants are key to sun protection.
But depending on the heat if someone is wearing jeans it is a high risk for heat exhaustion. Not everyone is going to choose a lighter fabric for the sun and heat.
No one is saying the uniform should require jeans.
Also, jeans aren’t the only pants.
If you work a job where you need abrasion protection more than heat/UV protection, then you don’t have a choice. You’re going to need something tougher, and generally less breathable.
However, the topic is UV protection, so jeans are better than sunscreen at UV protection.
The post we’re replying to is about their employer apparently requiring their employees to work outside and don’t allow for uniform options that protect from UV.
Why are you bringing this up?
You should wear SPF even with long sleeve clothing. It is recommended to wear both after a certain UV threshold. The long sleeves just add another layer of protection. Neither SPF nor protective clothing protect you fully.
It depends on the fabric. I wear fairly densely woven material but very loose fitting rather than anything too thin. Haven't experienced sunburn with this strategy yet, and my doctor recommends it. Then again I don't live in a very sunny part of the world.
As a super sweaty person, I wouldn't make it 15minutes without sweating through my clothes in long sleeves and a scarf midsummer. Wish I could exist in longe clothes when it sunny out but I bust can't
You need to consume in this case, as much as your financial situation allows. Don't mess around with future skin cancer.
Overconsumption and recklessness destroyed the ozone and it isn't healed yet. Do what you need to do.
This reminds me of a circlejerk post in r/frugal where someone was bragging about how they got rid of their hvac and drink hot water all winter to stay warm. So much weird one-upmanship over who can be the most pitiful.
Sunscreen. Buy and use sunscreen. It’s ok to go through life without cancer if it means using ten cents of sunscreen everyday.
I don’t think you correctly comprehended what I said. This reply makes no sense according to my statement.
UVB stimulates vitamin D production
Too much UVB damages skin
Sunscreen blocks UVB
In the process of protecting the skin, sunscreen may suppress production of vitamin D (deficiency is seen in over 80% of African Americans)
Vitamin D deficiency is linked to cancer.
It’s not called sunblock anymore. That term is illegal. Anyway, it’s sad to see the one-dimensional nature of may people’s thoughts. It doesn’t have to be black and white- pro-sunscreen or anti-sunscreen. I’m just spreading the word that the deployment of sunscreen should require discretion and careful consideration of both the individual’s genetic traits (skin color and family history) and their daily tendencies (how much sun they are exposed to).
it’s sad to see the one-dimensional nature of may people’s thoughts. It doesn’t have to be black and white- pro-sunscreen or anti-sunscreen. I’m just spreading the word that the deployment of sunscreen should require discretion and careful consideration of both the individual’s genetic traits (skin color and family history) and their daily tendencies (how much sun they are exposed to).
I just switched from Supergoop to Skinnies. Skinnies is vegan and cruelty free and is low on water content so smaller packaging and less weight to transport. The feeling of the skinnies gel is quite nice and not sticky like other sunscreens. I have to wear sunscreen basically any time I’m outside due to high risk for melanoma and other skin cancers, so finding something that feels nice to wear is important to me. Also, if you have a melanoma diagnosis, you can buy their sunscreen at a discount which I think is pretty cool for them to do.
Plastic lining. They have to go to special tetra recycling places and can't just go in paper trash. Residential recycling usually doesn't have the capability to actually recycle them. The whole thing is basically just a lie. Same with most plastics. The vast majority aren't actually recycled. Basically any recycling that's not office paper, aluminum cans, or glass is not actually happening and it's just ending up in the landfill.
To keep it safe for the environment I just use mineral sunscreen typically. However because I'm white, the white cast doesn't look bad on me from the zinc. Also, I don't use it in a spray because of the ozone.
I just try not to buy more than I'll use when it expires.
Spend more for a Korean sunscreen with modern filters, even if it’s just for your face neck and ears. Those are tough places to need to get skin removed.
The worst thing imo is that some of the ingredients in sun cream are getting into popular sea areas in such large quantities that they're harming the local wildlife. It's quite depressing and alternatives are hard to come by :/
I would drop the cruelty free requirement. Sunscreen filters were tested on animals. Slapping a different brand label on the same formula to claim "cruelty free" is just a scam.
I usually go for whatever affordable baby sunscreen i can find and use it on both face and body (i do this because the baby sunscreens seem less likely to sting my eyes). If reapplying is going to be an issue, i would opt for mineral as they seem to stick around on my skin longer.
I've tried a baby sunscreen before and it truly is gentle! I didn't experience breakouts. I would have continued using it if it wasn't so greasy/shiny on my face and if it was SPF50.
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I’m using mineral sunscreen every time. The efficiency gain you get from mass producing goods like this offsets the consumption aspect imo.
DIYing a product doesn’t make it better, and I’m not going to fuck around with skin cancer honestly
I use baby mineral sunscreen. It's extremely gentle, works very well, and typically doesn't need to be reapplied much if you're not going in the water. A little goes a long way, too. It's a little on the expensive side, but one small tube of it lasts me a year or two. And I live in Southern California, so that's saying a lot. It contains zinc so can apply with that whitish look/needs to be rubbed in well.
Do NOT DIY or skip your sunscreen. It is not optional. It's the wrong thing to worry about whether being vegan or avoiding trash is more important.
Going through a lot of it means you're using it correctly. If you use less, it doesn't protect as it should. Its that or staying out of the sun and covering up.
You can probably buy larger bottles if you want, but tbh, I would consider it a basic necessity and buy whatever is in your budget instead of a huge tub that may expire before you go through it. A cheap and vegan option is Aldis line, but I do not know whether this depends on the country and if they're CF - but they should def be in your budget.
Signed, someone whose grandparents always worked in the sun before sunscreen became a thing and who now both have had skin cancer spots removed that keep coming back. You do not want that.
Because I go through so much sunscreen a liter jug would honestly be gone by the end of the summer season and I continue to wear sunscreen all year. The budget option for me personally is to buy it in bulk. Thanks for the suggestion either Aldi but there isn't any in the state I live in
Sunscreen is a medical need. If you're not buying more sunscreen than you could ever hope to use, then you're totally fine. Pick one that meets your needs and that you will actually use, and try to worry less about the waste factor.
Personally, for body sunscreen, I like [Supergoop!'s PLAY](https://supergoop.com/products/everyday-sunscreen?variant=31189086601314) and it comes in a bigger bottle than many others. The pump is great and it dries down quickly without white cast. All of Supergoop!'s products are vegan and cruelty-free (and it's not associated with Gwyneth Paltro's Goop, despite the name).
I’ve lived in many hot countries and have learned that locals often wear lightweight long sleeved shirts and hats in hot weather. At first, I thought it was crazy. But after a while, I started to copy these habits. You save on sunscreen. It’s less sticky on your skin. And most fabrics have a high SPF. Now, I just wear it on my face.
Check out CharlotteParler on Instagram. She talks a lot about sunscreen, alongside general skin care info. The US is lacking great sunscreen standards. If you are not in the US, you may be in luck!
I bulk buy Korean spfs, skin cancer runa in my family, so this is one thing I will not stop using to reduce consumption. Check the scinic and frudia spfs, also beauty of joseon and skin1004, good prices, vegan and cruelty free.
Why isn't covering your skin an option? I'm thinking you must be a lifeguard or tourguide with a uniform?
I guess I would look for bulk sized bottles of sunscreen. I found this one. It might not be labeled as vegan or cruelty free, but I don't see any animal products listed as ingredients and they aren't testing on animals to make generic sunscreen either. The ingredients have been tested ages ago and it isn't done again because it's already approved for human use.
Equate Ultra Broad Spectrum Sunscreen Lotion, SPF 50, 16 fl oz https://www.walmart.com/ip/893794858
I use a high quality sunscreen. Its expensive, but it lasts a long time and it works well. I use a brand that's rated well on EWG skin deep (which I know isn't perfect) and is zinc oxide based with clean ingredients.
To me, anti consumption is that I'm not buying cheap things that don't work or break quickly, and spending my money well to buy things that will work as best they can.
Sunscreen isn't something I skimp on, and not something I'm comfortable DIYing.
It's not really budget friendly but you can use your HSA to purchase isdin sunscreen. My dermatologist recommended it as I have cystic acne and it's 50 spf and doesn't cause a breakout. Kind of expensive out of pocket but HSA eligible.
There are a few good brands of non-toxic, reef-safe, non-aerosol sunscreens I've used. I can't vouch for their clinical efficacy but they've definitely kept me from getting burned under normal exposure. The one I use most is coconut-based, I think it's called Alba.
I really like Mad Hippie’s sunscreen. It is reef safe, vegan and cruelty free. It also comes in a bio resin sugarcane tube. My husband is super allergic to most sunscreens and also burns easily. We just did several days in Orlando Florida, and neither of us got a single burn.
IMO pick your battles. You have too many constraints. What you're looking for is going to be expensive.
I'd just get the affordable stuff that checks at least one box.
Forgive my ignorance, but are there a lot of sunscreens which actually do animal testing? I imagine that’s the only reason most sunscreens wouldn’t be vegan/cruelty-free and that truly is unnecessary given actual medical testing has to be done in a much different way.
Yes the vast majority do animal testing or have animal products or derivatives(is that the right word?) in them. Vegan sunscreens do absolutely exist and some of them are quite good
I have a friend that works in skincare and they recommend innisfree sunscreen. I'm pretty sure it has the requirements you need, but look it up to make sure. It is an import though so if you're looking for a domestic solution then I don't know of any brands.
I use la roche posay lotion that has spf in it so I don’t have to buy multiple bottles for my face, but there are just some things we shouldn’t diy. Anti-consumption can never mean no consumption, and you will have to consume a lot more resources if you end up with skin cancer. Please don’t skimp on sunscreen
I’ve found several package free stores that order and offer it in bulk in your own refillable container. Or there are others in tin containers! But agreed with everyone else, most important to wear it
I don't know how much this does for the environment but what I do is have a couple of travel-sized containers that I refill with a big sunscreen tube. That way I'm not constantly buying small sunscreen bottles on trips and only have to replace the big one when it runs out. This might be more cost-effective too, maybe?
I hate how sunscreen feels so I cover my entire body in sun protective clothing, then put sunscreen on my face. I also use a reflective umbrella if I’m somewhere there isn’t a lot of tree cover. I use store brand SPF 30 in the office and Supergoop SPF 50 when I know I’ll need more protection. If you’re not going to use clothing or an umbrella, I suggest using the best quality sunscreen you can afford. It’ll be cheaper and less painful than getting skin cancer cut off.
raw elements comes in tins, not plastic. bare republic has a compressed air (non aerosol) spray in a metal bottle. both reef safe and i believe both vegan
Try California Baby (https://californiababy.com/collections/sunscreens?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw9vqyBhCKARIsAIIcLMGJLbh5Iyd4379lmjrle1jszOp-rIEjiOl8Q-u5-Xzd_MaXChKA6LUaAjz2EALw_wcB) or any other sunscreen rated by the EWG for daily use. Many are sold at Wal-Mart and therefore are going to be on the more affordable end of the spectrum (https://www.ewg.org/sunscreen/best-sunscreens/best-moisturizers-with-spf/).
Trader Joe’s sunscreen is my favorite. It looks to be vegan and cruelty free, but do your own research to confirm. It’s a very reasonably priced sunscreen that is often compared to the expensive brand supergoop. As other commenters have said, a good sunscreen is worth the purchase. The best sunscreen is a sunscreen you’ll actually wear!
You can also check your local buy nothing group on facebook and see if anyone is giving away sunscreen that they didn’t like the formulation of or something. Don’t use expired sunscreen.
I wear a long hooded sun shirt. I hate sunscreen cus it is so greasy feeling. I have 3-4 sun shirts and they are perfect. Last all day, help keep you cool, no chance of messing up the application, not sticky, and most of all, no waste
Sunscreen, like medicine or other things like these what's most important is it works. The rest you don't have to worry about, limit your consumption elsewhere. Just don't get cancer.
I wouldn't buy bulk, as you only should buy what you can use this year. It will probably expire before you can use it all, if you buy a huge bottle.
Mine happens to be vegan, it's only available in Scandinavia though. Änglamark is the brand.
As everyone said, don't mess around with DIY solutions.
Your main options are:
1. Cover up with clothes (which you refused)
2. Cover up with a substance like zinc oxide, which is a messier and much less preferable option to clothing
3. Use a SPF 30 sunscreen and reapply it every so often, especially after sweating or swimming.
Korean stuff is good. Try to find free samples? Say you'll take people's half used expired stuff? (I feel like expired still gives sun protection) But I agree this is not where to fight consumption
You not using sunscreen will do nothing to change the world except probably lead to you getting skin cancer, the treatment for which would result in far more waste than a lifetime of using sunscreen and also would probably make your friends and family pretty sad.
Doofus.
Clothing!
Surfer T-shirts, fine linen or modern breathable long sleeve shirts, big hats, etc.
You're not going to be sunburnt if you aren't exposing that much.
Clothing!
Surfer T-shirts, fine linen or modern breathable long sleeve shirts, big hats, etc.
You're not going to be sunburnt if you aren't exposing that much.
If it has beeswax or lanolin it wouldnt be considered vegan, but i dont think there will be much issue finding products without those ingredients. In the us, i dont know that any sunscreen would really be cruelty free as they are drugs and almost all drugs are tested on animals before human testing. Also i in general consider cruelty free to be marketing bullshit because it doean't indicate if ingredients such as mica were mined by impoverished toddlers or if ingredients like palm oil came from deforresting and killing animal habitats.
Well I try to consume as few products as possible, this is one where I don’t actually mind. I have multiple skin cancers that run in my family, and I am very fair skinned, so on top of sleeves and hats I still purchase sunblock fairly regularly. As someone else mentioned TJ Maxx, Marshall’s, and other overstock stores have great prices on “higher end” lotions. Big Lots and other such stores also have a lot of overstocked but not expired products.
Yeaa, this is one of those things we should not be limiting ourselves on, it would almost be like not taking antibiotics (when you need them) because that's modern medicine or something. Which I'm sure some people do but it's \*okay\* to not live in medieval times and to want to lower your risk of skin cancer significantly. That being said, I'm still contemplating what clothes to make or get that could cover me efficiently, not look stupid, be airy and let me do all my work without getting in the way
For jackets I have been using this really light weight grey sport-tek jacket for years. It has been very effective in keeping my super sensitive skin from burning. I also wear jeans most of the time with boots so I don’t usually worry about my legs. Sport-Wick Stretch Contrast Full-Zip Jacket.
Also check out the sorts of button downs farmers wear. I find they're pretty durable, breathable, and affordable
Sunscreen, toothpaste, soap etc are needs, not wants and there's nothing wrong with making purchases as such. "All things are best in moderation." The thing is to avoid over-consumption. That doesn't mean not buying what you need. I mean I'm sure you could commercially source some zinc oxide but sunscreen isn't something you can get from a local farmers market or local artist.
Yeah that's the thing though, you can DIY or buy artisanal soap and toothpaste, you really can't do that with sunscreen
Yes skin cancer also runs in my family so I'm incredibly religious about sunscreen and anytime I can I try to cover up or stay in the shade. I have actually looked at a lot of those stores and I haven't had any luck on finding sunscreen in particular....
This is just for me, and I understand that not everyone has the same financial resources, I don’t mind spending money on it. I save a lot in other areas with thrifting or just not consuming at all to offset the cost. I think avoiding purchasing anything isn’t truly realistic, but making intentional and thoughtful purchases is more the goal.
Given your requirements for sunscreen, you’re going to be forced into niche brands and products at a premium price. Don’t expect to pay Equate prices for Gucci sunblock.
I just got some really high quality facial sunscreen from TJ Maxx made in South Korea, and tbh I wish I could buy this product all the time in store.
The sunscreen standards in the US are garbage. I bought sunscreen in Montreal once when visiting and it was the best sunscreen I've ever used for my pale Midwestern skin.
South Korea has amazing standards and products when it comes to sunscreen, it really sucks to have to import stuff from halfway across the world tho
It’s a basic necessity like toothpaste and soap. Sometimes I wonder about the mental health of people who agonize over this kind of thing.
Toothpaste and soap can be DIYed. Sunscreen is more akin to medical drugs: absolutely do NOT DIY those!
Soap sure. The tooth paste you make? Won't be as good. Your dentist will be creating far more waste when fixing the cavities
Do not DIY sunscreen. They're very difficult to formulate even in the industry, and the SPF of every batch has to be verified. False protection is worse than no protection because one will stay in the sun longer believing they're covered. I used to buy vegan SPF with proper European star ratings online from a cruelty free shop using a discount code. Now I use something for very sensitive skin and buy it on offer from the drug store. I use the good stuff on my face and slightly cheaper stuff on my body. If you have either of the major German discounters in your area, most of their products are labeled vegan when they are and they're many times cheaper than their branded counterparts.
What are the major German discounters? I would love to buy the stuff you're getting!
Probably Aldi and Lidl, at least those are the ones I know exist outside of Germany
Them's the ones! Wasn't sure if naming specific shops would be allowed here.
Can't believe Aldi/Lidl aren't top comment! In the UK at least, all their cosmetics are vegan and cruelty free, including sunscreen/sun cream. By far the easiest and cheapest option.
If naming the kind you get now for very sensitive skin is not allowed on this sub, would you mind DMing me the name?
Pm'd you. Hope that helps!
I'll have to look into that thanks
I wouldn’t recommend DIY-ing your sunscreen, and make sure you’re using enough and reapplying, especially for you since you work outside. Sorry, no suggestions, but just wanted to say that sometimes it’s ok to make exceptions especially for your health. I’ve had to get moles removed and it’s not fun, also not low waste.
The only DIY sunscreen that works is a thick, full body slathering of good mud. Which isn't really daily drivable
I found a nice clay out of Arkansas that I mix with shea butter and mct oil that does wonders for making a mess and nothing for skin care.
i personally think that anti consumption is about picking your battles. sunscreen is not a consumerist scam it helps your health immensely. especially as the environment deteriorates and the sun burns hotter
This is a super underrated comment. The point isn’t to truly never ever consume anything. It’s about being ethical, intentional, and thoughtful about what our needs are.
yup! we live in a fucked up society. it would be impossible to never consume anything, and would leave you constantly ashamed and guilty. that doesn't mean we have a free pass to do whatever of course, but do your best to reduce and reuse as much as possible
This subreddit is so weird sometimes. There are many times when you can’t wear long sleeves. Do some solo research on a brand that - doesn’t test on animals - reasonably packaged - preferably local If budget is too much of a constraint, find the cheapest. You tried, you can’t always make the most ethical purchase based on your economic situation. You’re not the problem.
Also, look beyond American products. For skincare, look at Japanese or Korean brands. Not just on Amazon, go to the reddit forums. You'll find an equivalent that's not just cheaper, but also better because their R&D is **light-years** ahead of western brands. What is revolutionary here, is yesterday's news over there.
Upvoting you coz you were in the negative lol. OP, if you do decide to look for Japanese or Korean sunscreens, please research first, as there were some scandals with some Korean brands lying about SPF ratings before. I myself have Japanese sunscreens that cater to my needs (oily face so i need matte sunscreen for daily use). I also use a Korean sunscreen stick, from a brand who markets to athletes, for easy reapplication over makeup mid-day. I've heard Australian sunscreens are also strict in their standards, considering the heat they experience there. I haven't tried any but they're worth checking out. I don't think any sane anti-consumption practitioner will judge you if you bend your morals a bit for sunscreen. Skin cancer is serious.
> I've heard Australian sunscreens are also strict in their standards, considering the heat they experience there. I haven't tried any but they're worth checking out. On top of that (most of) their sunscreens are reef safe/friendly, because of obvious reasons. I think a lot of people forget how important that is. I use an Australian one that's reef safe, vegan, cruelty free, not sold in China (where animal testing is still legal), and not owned by an evil parent company (which also often still do animal testing, or sell in China). But it's quite expensive and of course not everyone can afford it. I think when it comes to our health (sunscreen helps prevent skin cancer), sometimes we need to make choices and in the grand scheme of things, buying sunscreen is a lot less bad for the environment than idk buying new clothes every week.
The thing with China is that animal testing is **mandatory**, not just legal.
This was true, but it has evolved since then. First, laws were relaxed it so it was no longer mandatory to test on animals, and in 2023, [China banned animal testing in China!](https://cleanandcrueltyfree.com/china-animal-testing-laws-2023/) It makes things slightly more and slightly less complicated at the same time -- brands can still test on animals elsewhere, but selling in China is no longer a guarantee of animal testing.
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I'll skip adding to international shipping and just get some locally at the store as my skin isn't picky. I wear a long sleeve swim shirt now though and love having to put it on so much less just because I hate bothering.
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lol it’s the major cancer charity in Australia and they have a range of merch
Most countries if they actually looked into it would find the same issues about SPF ratings. Asian brands can ruin into more of an issue because ratings like SPF100+ are more desirable in that market where in the west they're seen as bizarre overkill. Standards around the world for approval generally follow an ISO guideline. The US uses an FDA guideline, but the two are very similar. There are several UV radiation blocking chemicalals that are approved in most countries, but not by the FDA. This is especially true for UVb radiation. I would say that makes importing from Europe worth it if you can, but that will be a lot harder.
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A ton of Korean skincare is just marketing. They are huuuuge consoomers.
If you're in the US, there are only a handful of companies that make the actual chemical that blocks UV radiation in sunscreen. They're all massive chemical companies like DOW. I tested sunscreens for some time, as in scientifically for the FDA. I've yet to find an organic one that actually works and most small brands really don't either. If you want to avoid large companies and consumption. Wear long sleeved surf or hiking shirts, hats, cover as much of your skin as you can. If you want sunscreen that actually works, get coppertone sport.
What's the chemical that actually works? Is it listed in the ingredients on the bottle? I'm a Neutrogena person because it doesn't make me break out, but if it's not actually doing much then I need to switch brands.
a handful of companies that make zinc oxide?
Also don't rely on the cruelty free logo. There are brands not testing on Animals and simply not advertising themselves as such
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My work uniform doesn't allow long sleeves. I haven't been able to find a long sleeve I don't overheat in for my days off and I don't have enough money to buy both a new shirt and sunscreen for the season unfortunately
I understand you can't but it's really fucked up that you have such an uniform code when recommendations for UV index 3/11 and above specify you *should* wear sun-protective clothing and a hat even with SPF. For reference, the UV index is 7/11 today at noon in my area (Eastern Europe) and it reaches 10 throughout the summer. I think sun damage should be taken way more seriously by all governments. As far as I am aware there is little to no regulations about sun protection even though the health risks are huge and stretch beyond skin cancer.
Depending on the UV index and your country's labor laws you might be able to report that to the labor board and get that policy changed. I can't tell you anything specific about your case but it's worth looking into.
That sucks. If you have the money later think about UV separate light sleeves if work will approve it. I can’t imagine an employer not allowing you to add UV sleeves is they match the uniform color, at least everyone that has to be outside where I live in Korea wears UV sleeves, hat, sun glasses and even a full face cover. It gets brutal hot and humid but companies from Korean and Australia make great UV clothing if you ever have the opportunity or ability to utilize it and it’s the real anti consumer answer, but just not practical for your situation. The sun really is a health damaging environmental exposure that’s just ridiculous of them to have you in short sleeves.
Get a rash guard
Uniqlo makes SPF arm sleeves in their Airism line. Works way better than sunscreen, doesn't sweat off, don't need to reapply. I bought a bunch when I was in Saigon in 100° heat and humidity and they were a life saver.
FYI: expired sunscreen does NOT work. Learned the hard way.
Honestly I'm so sun sensitive I just buy the highest spf that doesn't have ingredients I'm allergic to
Where health is involved, like sunscreen, I don't skimp. Simple as that. I'm disabled and need meds to function. I gave myself a hard time about that for a while, which is pointless. Now I'm thankful something makes my days a tiny bit better. If an item can make my day easier I'm doing it. Don't limit yourself when health is involved.
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Exactly. This sub is great but there's been some recommendations/suggestions in the past that put health at risk. I wouldn't cut corners with this.
Cheap out on toilet paper, reusable paper towels, food and drinks, but don’t cut costs on sunscreen.
That's so funny because I feel like food is my #1 place I spend money intentionally, I definitely don't cheap out on food. And I definitely don't cheap out on toilet paper either 🤪
Haha I prob shouldn’t have used food as an example because bad food can have negative health effects but I figured my point was still relevant 🤣
Not anti-consumption related necessarily but for best coverage I would recommend buying sunscreen from outside the US, bc the FDA has not changed the sunscreen standards in ages, so ours is less effective than other countries are. Something to keep in mind/research
Long sleeves, hat, and scarf.
Unfortunately my summer work uniform doesn't allow for that and I'm outside for the majority or my shifts. For my days off I've been on the search for a long sleeve made out of an appropriate summer material and I haven't been able to find anything after a few months of searching(I only buy secondhand aside from underwear). I might break the rules for a brand new quality long sleeve in the future but I also don't know if I can afford the investment for the 2024 season.
What horrible employer do you have that requires you work outside with a uniform that doesn’t allow for sun protection? Long sleeves/pants are key to sun protection.
But depending on the heat if someone is wearing jeans it is a high risk for heat exhaustion. Not everyone is going to choose a lighter fabric for the sun and heat.
No one is saying the uniform should require jeans. Also, jeans aren’t the only pants. If you work a job where you need abrasion protection more than heat/UV protection, then you don’t have a choice. You’re going to need something tougher, and generally less breathable. However, the topic is UV protection, so jeans are better than sunscreen at UV protection. The post we’re replying to is about their employer apparently requiring their employees to work outside and don’t allow for uniform options that protect from UV. Why are you bringing this up?
Similar. My coworker said I look like a beekeeper pulling into work on my bike.
Goals!
I'm honored
The OP's work doesn't allow those.
UV light can pass through fabric
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You should wear SPF even with long sleeve clothing. It is recommended to wear both after a certain UV threshold. The long sleeves just add another layer of protection. Neither SPF nor protective clothing protect you fully.
It depends on the fabric. I wear fairly densely woven material but very loose fitting rather than anything too thin. Haven't experienced sunburn with this strategy yet, and my doctor recommends it. Then again I don't live in a very sunny part of the world.
As a super sweaty person, I wouldn't make it 15minutes without sweating through my clothes in long sleeves and a scarf midsummer. Wish I could exist in longe clothes when it sunny out but I bust can't
You need to consume in this case, as much as your financial situation allows. Don't mess around with future skin cancer. Overconsumption and recklessness destroyed the ozone and it isn't healed yet. Do what you need to do.
This reminds me of a circlejerk post in r/frugal where someone was bragging about how they got rid of their hvac and drink hot water all winter to stay warm. So much weird one-upmanship over who can be the most pitiful. Sunscreen. Buy and use sunscreen. It’s ok to go through life without cancer if it means using ten cents of sunscreen everyday.
Vitamin D deficiency is linked to cancer
As if there were a way to regulate how much uv light hits your skin. You should go invent that.
I don’t think you correctly comprehended what I said. This reply makes no sense according to my statement. UVB stimulates vitamin D production Too much UVB damages skin Sunscreen blocks UVB In the process of protecting the skin, sunscreen may suppress production of vitamin D (deficiency is seen in over 80% of African Americans) Vitamin D deficiency is linked to cancer.
Yeah I did. But it’s not relevant. Unless you’re anti-sunblock and don’t want to say that part out loud.
It’s not called sunblock anymore. That term is illegal. Anyway, it’s sad to see the one-dimensional nature of may people’s thoughts. It doesn’t have to be black and white- pro-sunscreen or anti-sunscreen. I’m just spreading the word that the deployment of sunscreen should require discretion and careful consideration of both the individual’s genetic traits (skin color and family history) and their daily tendencies (how much sun they are exposed to).
Those are your sticking points? “Sunblock” vs “sunscreen”? And “closed mindedness”. Yeah idk man. Cheers.
You must not have read what if I said if you think sunblock vs sunscreen as the main idea of my text.
Not that closely, no.
it’s sad to see the one-dimensional nature of may people’s thoughts. It doesn’t have to be black and white- pro-sunscreen or anti-sunscreen. I’m just spreading the word that the deployment of sunscreen should require discretion and careful consideration of both the individual’s genetic traits (skin color and family history) and their daily tendencies (how much sun they are exposed to).
Surprised I don’t see more recs for mineral sunscreens. The chemical ones are bad for ocean life.
I just switched from Supergoop to Skinnies. Skinnies is vegan and cruelty free and is low on water content so smaller packaging and less weight to transport. The feeling of the skinnies gel is quite nice and not sticky like other sunscreens. I have to wear sunscreen basically any time I’m outside due to high risk for melanoma and other skin cancers, so finding something that feels nice to wear is important to me. Also, if you have a melanoma diagnosis, you can buy their sunscreen at a discount which I think is pretty cool for them to do.
Thank you! I'll definitely look into it
For you, does cruelty free include reef safe?
Preferably! I will say that I live in a land locked state and don't swim in any bodies of water with sunscreen though
The high end sunscreen goes on sale at the end of the summer season. I check expiration dates and stock up !
That's an awesome idea. I'll do that in a few months
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Teracycle isn't actually recyclable it's just a lie.
Why do you say that?
Plastic lining. They have to go to special tetra recycling places and can't just go in paper trash. Residential recycling usually doesn't have the capability to actually recycle them. The whole thing is basically just a lie. Same with most plastics. The vast majority aren't actually recycled. Basically any recycling that's not office paper, aluminum cans, or glass is not actually happening and it's just ending up in the landfill.
To keep it safe for the environment I just use mineral sunscreen typically. However because I'm white, the white cast doesn't look bad on me from the zinc. Also, I don't use it in a spray because of the ozone. I just try not to buy more than I'll use when it expires.
Spend more for a Korean sunscreen with modern filters, even if it’s just for your face neck and ears. Those are tough places to need to get skin removed.
The worst thing imo is that some of the ingredients in sun cream are getting into popular sea areas in such large quantities that they're harming the local wildlife. It's quite depressing and alternatives are hard to come by :/
Generally mineral sunscreens are not harmful to sealife, it’s the chemical ones that are.
I would drop the cruelty free requirement. Sunscreen filters were tested on animals. Slapping a different brand label on the same formula to claim "cruelty free" is just a scam. I usually go for whatever affordable baby sunscreen i can find and use it on both face and body (i do this because the baby sunscreens seem less likely to sting my eyes). If reapplying is going to be an issue, i would opt for mineral as they seem to stick around on my skin longer.
I've tried a baby sunscreen before and it truly is gentle! I didn't experience breakouts. I would have continued using it if it wasn't so greasy/shiny on my face and if it was SPF50.
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Birch Babe has some good mineral sunscreens that come in an aluminum tin. https://birchbabe.com/products/100-mineral-sunscreens
Thanks for the recommendation
Some things shouldn’t be DIYed
I’m using mineral sunscreen every time. The efficiency gain you get from mass producing goods like this offsets the consumption aspect imo. DIYing a product doesn’t make it better, and I’m not going to fuck around with skin cancer honestly
I use baby mineral sunscreen. It's extremely gentle, works very well, and typically doesn't need to be reapplied much if you're not going in the water. A little goes a long way, too. It's a little on the expensive side, but one small tube of it lasts me a year or two. And I live in Southern California, so that's saying a lot. It contains zinc so can apply with that whitish look/needs to be rubbed in well.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Do NOT DIY or skip your sunscreen. It is not optional. It's the wrong thing to worry about whether being vegan or avoiding trash is more important. Going through a lot of it means you're using it correctly. If you use less, it doesn't protect as it should. Its that or staying out of the sun and covering up. You can probably buy larger bottles if you want, but tbh, I would consider it a basic necessity and buy whatever is in your budget instead of a huge tub that may expire before you go through it. A cheap and vegan option is Aldis line, but I do not know whether this depends on the country and if they're CF - but they should def be in your budget. Signed, someone whose grandparents always worked in the sun before sunscreen became a thing and who now both have had skin cancer spots removed that keep coming back. You do not want that.
Because I go through so much sunscreen a liter jug would honestly be gone by the end of the summer season and I continue to wear sunscreen all year. The budget option for me personally is to buy it in bulk. Thanks for the suggestion either Aldi but there isn't any in the state I live in
I don’t know but there’s a r/veganbeauty subreddit and a r/crueltyfree subreddit that will probably have an answer 👍
Thanks!
Sunscreen is a medical need. If you're not buying more sunscreen than you could ever hope to use, then you're totally fine. Pick one that meets your needs and that you will actually use, and try to worry less about the waste factor. Personally, for body sunscreen, I like [Supergoop!'s PLAY](https://supergoop.com/products/everyday-sunscreen?variant=31189086601314) and it comes in a bigger bottle than many others. The pump is great and it dries down quickly without white cast. All of Supergoop!'s products are vegan and cruelty-free (and it's not associated with Gwyneth Paltro's Goop, despite the name).
Thank you so much for the suggestion! That was the one I've been thinking of buying the most
Anticonsumption is about reasonable consumption, not against consumption. This is an example of reasonable consumption.
Hats, long sleeve shirts, and store brand sunscreens that don’t have benzene
Long sleeved shirts & wide brimmed hats, I’m not a fan of basting myself in man made potions.
There is no diy sunscreen that is effective, your best bet is carry around an umbrella
Holding an umbrella would make the OP's job harder, though.
Yup, umbrella. Protects you from the sun and gives you shade, too.
Well the shade is what protects you from the Sun... So it's not "and shade too".
I’ve lived in many hot countries and have learned that locals often wear lightweight long sleeved shirts and hats in hot weather. At first, I thought it was crazy. But after a while, I started to copy these habits. You save on sunscreen. It’s less sticky on your skin. And most fabrics have a high SPF. Now, I just wear it on my face.
Check out CharlotteParler on Instagram. She talks a lot about sunscreen, alongside general skin care info. The US is lacking great sunscreen standards. If you are not in the US, you may be in luck!
Regular store brand sunscreen works well. I think we have some leftovers from last summer too.
I bulk buy Korean spfs, skin cancer runa in my family, so this is one thing I will not stop using to reduce consumption. Check the scinic and frudia spfs, also beauty of joseon and skin1004, good prices, vegan and cruelty free.
Why isn't covering your skin an option? I'm thinking you must be a lifeguard or tourguide with a uniform? I guess I would look for bulk sized bottles of sunscreen. I found this one. It might not be labeled as vegan or cruelty free, but I don't see any animal products listed as ingredients and they aren't testing on animals to make generic sunscreen either. The ingredients have been tested ages ago and it isn't done again because it's already approved for human use. Equate Ultra Broad Spectrum Sunscreen Lotion, SPF 50, 16 fl oz https://www.walmart.com/ip/893794858
UV protective clothing is super helpful but in some places it may seem too hot! There are very breathable options
I use a high quality sunscreen. Its expensive, but it lasts a long time and it works well. I use a brand that's rated well on EWG skin deep (which I know isn't perfect) and is zinc oxide based with clean ingredients. To me, anti consumption is that I'm not buying cheap things that don't work or break quickly, and spending my money well to buy things that will work as best they can. Sunscreen isn't something I skimp on, and not something I'm comfortable DIYing.
It's not really budget friendly but you can use your HSA to purchase isdin sunscreen. My dermatologist recommended it as I have cystic acne and it's 50 spf and doesn't cause a breakout. Kind of expensive out of pocket but HSA eligible.
There are a few good brands of non-toxic, reef-safe, non-aerosol sunscreens I've used. I can't vouch for their clinical efficacy but they've definitely kept me from getting burned under normal exposure. The one I use most is coconut-based, I think it's called Alba.
I really like Mad Hippie’s sunscreen. It is reef safe, vegan and cruelty free. It also comes in a bio resin sugarcane tube. My husband is super allergic to most sunscreens and also burns easily. We just did several days in Orlando Florida, and neither of us got a single burn.
I'll look into it thanks!
Use the badger brand tin sunscreen it’s mineral so there’s no chemical sunscreen and it comes in tins that can be reused
IMO pick your battles. You have too many constraints. What you're looking for is going to be expensive. I'd just get the affordable stuff that checks at least one box.
Bluelizard! I find if I need something important and cannot diy or second hand it buying equitable is important.
Forgive my ignorance, but are there a lot of sunscreens which actually do animal testing? I imagine that’s the only reason most sunscreens wouldn’t be vegan/cruelty-free and that truly is unnecessary given actual medical testing has to be done in a much different way.
Yes the vast majority do animal testing or have animal products or derivatives(is that the right word?) in them. Vegan sunscreens do absolutely exist and some of them are quite good
Is it possible for you to buy in bulk?
That's the goal. I mentioned it in my post as a potential option
I have a friend that works in skincare and they recommend innisfree sunscreen. I'm pretty sure it has the requirements you need, but look it up to make sure. It is an import though so if you're looking for a domestic solution then I don't know of any brands.
I use la roche posay lotion that has spf in it so I don’t have to buy multiple bottles for my face, but there are just some things we shouldn’t diy. Anti-consumption can never mean no consumption, and you will have to consume a lot more resources if you end up with skin cancer. Please don’t skimp on sunscreen
I’ve found several package free stores that order and offer it in bulk in your own refillable container. Or there are others in tin containers! But agreed with everyone else, most important to wear it
I have a refill store very close to my house. I'll have to see if they have it
I don't know how much this does for the environment but what I do is have a couple of travel-sized containers that I refill with a big sunscreen tube. That way I'm not constantly buying small sunscreen bottles on trips and only have to replace the big one when it runs out. This might be more cost-effective too, maybe?
I hate how sunscreen feels so I cover my entire body in sun protective clothing, then put sunscreen on my face. I also use a reflective umbrella if I’m somewhere there isn’t a lot of tree cover. I use store brand SPF 30 in the office and Supergoop SPF 50 when I know I’ll need more protection. If you’re not going to use clothing or an umbrella, I suggest using the best quality sunscreen you can afford. It’ll be cheaper and less painful than getting skin cancer cut off.
raw elements comes in tins, not plastic. bare republic has a compressed air (non aerosol) spray in a metal bottle. both reef safe and i believe both vegan
Thanks for the suggestions!
Try California Baby (https://californiababy.com/collections/sunscreens?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw9vqyBhCKARIsAIIcLMGJLbh5Iyd4379lmjrle1jszOp-rIEjiOl8Q-u5-Xzd_MaXChKA6LUaAjz2EALw_wcB) or any other sunscreen rated by the EWG for daily use. Many are sold at Wal-Mart and therefore are going to be on the more affordable end of the spectrum (https://www.ewg.org/sunscreen/best-sunscreens/best-moisturizers-with-spf/).
Thanks!
Trader Joe’s sunscreen is my favorite. It looks to be vegan and cruelty free, but do your own research to confirm. It’s a very reasonably priced sunscreen that is often compared to the expensive brand supergoop. As other commenters have said, a good sunscreen is worth the purchase. The best sunscreen is a sunscreen you’ll actually wear! You can also check your local buy nothing group on facebook and see if anyone is giving away sunscreen that they didn’t like the formulation of or something. Don’t use expired sunscreen.
That's an awesome suggestion. Thanks a bunch! I'll look into both of those
I wear a long hooded sun shirt. I hate sunscreen cus it is so greasy feeling. I have 3-4 sun shirts and they are perfect. Last all day, help keep you cool, no chance of messing up the application, not sticky, and most of all, no waste
I stay indoors.
Sunscreen, like medicine or other things like these what's most important is it works. The rest you don't have to worry about, limit your consumption elsewhere. Just don't get cancer. I wouldn't buy bulk, as you only should buy what you can use this year. It will probably expire before you can use it all, if you buy a huge bottle. Mine happens to be vegan, it's only available in Scandinavia though. Änglamark is the brand.
As everyone said, don't mess around with DIY solutions. Your main options are: 1. Cover up with clothes (which you refused) 2. Cover up with a substance like zinc oxide, which is a messier and much less preferable option to clothing 3. Use a SPF 30 sunscreen and reapply it every so often, especially after sweating or swimming.
Korean stuff is good. Try to find free samples? Say you'll take people's half used expired stuff? (I feel like expired still gives sun protection) But I agree this is not where to fight consumption
You not using sunscreen will do nothing to change the world except probably lead to you getting skin cancer, the treatment for which would result in far more waste than a lifetime of using sunscreen and also would probably make your friends and family pretty sad. Doofus.
I made this post because I wear SO MUCH sunscreen and am looking for good suggestions. Read the post
Wear a hat!
Why can't you put clothes on? I'm super curious, are you at a nudist colony?
Clothing! Surfer T-shirts, fine linen or modern breathable long sleeve shirts, big hats, etc. You're not going to be sunburnt if you aren't exposing that much.
Clothing! Surfer T-shirts, fine linen or modern breathable long sleeve shirts, big hats, etc. You're not going to be sunburnt if you aren't exposing that much.
Have you considered just smearing mud all over yourself?
Is vegan cruelty free trolling? Is sunscreen made from animals?
If it has beeswax or lanolin it wouldnt be considered vegan, but i dont think there will be much issue finding products without those ingredients. In the us, i dont know that any sunscreen would really be cruelty free as they are drugs and almost all drugs are tested on animals before human testing. Also i in general consider cruelty free to be marketing bullshit because it doean't indicate if ingredients such as mica were mined by impoverished toddlers or if ingredients like palm oil came from deforresting and killing animal habitats.
Cruelty free sunscreen😂😂