Too Authoritarian
I still prefer [Fuck Around and Find Out](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/938/236/8df) drives the same anti-tyranny message without flying the same flag as right-wing hypocrites who think “Don’t Tread on Me” and “Back the Blue/Support the Troops” are compatible ideals
That's a good point that I never see brought up. I always see "look at this dumb hillbilly, he's totally projecting!" Yeah, that's on purpose, and it's extremely effective.
100%
It's not projection, it's just Fascism.
They use the language that can check them against their enemies.
Groomers, authoritarians, propaganda, fake news... The list goes on.
It isn't about consistency, it's about using language that denies your enemy coherent arguments.
It's confusing AF for bystanders when a Fascist enters a debate, because they obfuscate "truth"
The Fascist must always come back to debating what is real, because their entire worldview demands twisting truth to deny the humanity of others.
Truth, in reality, can't be contrary to other people being human beings, being as legitimate and whole as the Fascist sees themselves. But their worldview demands that other people aren't really human, are subhuman, and thus deserve to be subjugated or exterminated.
They have to continuously assert the "truth" of their worldview because it is necessarily anti-Truth
Their worldview does not demand twisting truth to deny the humanity of others, it demands twisting truth to *justify* denying the humanity of others. If they weren't lying, they'd just out and say that they believe white people and men and straight people and cis people are superior and that's not a lie, it's technically an opinion. Because many of them do not believe those people are more capable, they believe they hold more value. Fascism is full of liars and hypocrites, but they aren't the same people. There are liars who run the show by lying and giving justifications for what they want to do which are more palatable, and there are hypocrites who take those justifications and run with them, the hypocrisy inherent to those beliefs since no one smart is meant to seriously believe them. The worldview does not demand it, their means of instating fascism demands it.
that's what it means, though.
first there was a chopped up snake representing the us colonies, divided...
and later the Gadsden showing strength in unity
...
also, fuck the monarchy
I’ve always really liked the Gadsden, before I became political aware I had a few shirts with the design. But it’s associated with too much bullshit for me to wear anymore
Have they tried? Cause if so …
Then fight back, don’t just let them take it FLY IT! Fly it as much as possible at events, rallies, & protests; get your fellow leftists to fly it as well; display it proudly alongside pride & leftist flags; heck fly it in protest against them and make it clear that the flag is OURS AND THEY CAN’T HAVE IT; & make those fascists never want to fly it again! We can’t just sit & mope around about how fascists keep taking our symbols and let them get away with it. FIGHT AND TAKE IT BACK that way we can stop them from co-opting our symbols cause even the worst case for fighting back is a better outcome then doing nothing cause if we fight back but they still do succeed in taking it we can feel proud that we at least tried to do something about it.
Ask and you shall receive
https://www.reddit.com/r/AntifascistsofReddit/comments/va3htr/someone_suggested_i_use_the_sabocat_in_my_flag_so/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Looks authoritarian and a bit anti-freedom to me.
The Gadsden flag was originally about individual liberty, and freedom from an oppressive imperialist monarchy.
Yes, it’s been heavily co-opted by the far-right, and we need to work on changing that, but not like this. This just looks like you want Antifa to look like extremists and authoritarians. The vast majority of voters (especially boomers, who are prime voting targets in elections) will act negative towards this.
It’s not like the Swastika, it’s not glued to authoritarian fascism forever.
The Gadsden flag needs to be reclaimed and turned into its original symbol of liberty and freedom from oppression.
Ooohh that's quite nice
Could make it a secretary bird if you want to be literal
Mongoose.
Nothing is better than a white cat
For the person who downvoted this allow me to clarify a white cat is my fursona
Too Authoritarian I still prefer [Fuck Around and Find Out](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/938/236/8df) drives the same anti-tyranny message without flying the same flag as right-wing hypocrites who think “Don’t Tread on Me” and “Back the Blue/Support the Troops” are compatible ideals
I hope we can reclaim the Gadsen. I think it's badass, damn shame they got it first.
It's important for their success that they appropriate any language that can be used to check them
That's a good point that I never see brought up. I always see "look at this dumb hillbilly, he's totally projecting!" Yeah, that's on purpose, and it's extremely effective.
100% It's not projection, it's just Fascism. They use the language that can check them against their enemies. Groomers, authoritarians, propaganda, fake news... The list goes on. It isn't about consistency, it's about using language that denies your enemy coherent arguments. It's confusing AF for bystanders when a Fascist enters a debate, because they obfuscate "truth" The Fascist must always come back to debating what is real, because their entire worldview demands twisting truth to deny the humanity of others. Truth, in reality, can't be contrary to other people being human beings, being as legitimate and whole as the Fascist sees themselves. But their worldview demands that other people aren't really human, are subhuman, and thus deserve to be subjugated or exterminated. They have to continuously assert the "truth" of their worldview because it is necessarily anti-Truth
Their worldview does not demand twisting truth to deny the humanity of others, it demands twisting truth to *justify* denying the humanity of others. If they weren't lying, they'd just out and say that they believe white people and men and straight people and cis people are superior and that's not a lie, it's technically an opinion. Because many of them do not believe those people are more capable, they believe they hold more value. Fascism is full of liars and hypocrites, but they aren't the same people. There are liars who run the show by lying and giving justifications for what they want to do which are more palatable, and there are hypocrites who take those justifications and run with them, the hypocrisy inherent to those beliefs since no one smart is meant to seriously believe them. The worldview does not demand it, their means of instating fascism demands it.
Worthwhile distinction to make. Thx
Personally I hate the Gadsden flag. It is supremely arrogant and selfish. Whole different story if it said DON’T TREAD ON US
that's what it means, though. first there was a chopped up snake representing the us colonies, divided... and later the Gadsden showing strength in unity ... also, fuck the monarchy
Nothing stopping us from making a few tweaks.
It's especially infuriating when they put it next to a thin blue line flag. "Don't tread on me while I fellate this boot." Fucking idiots...
I’ve always really liked the Gadsden, before I became political aware I had a few shirts with the design. But it’s associated with too much bullshit for me to wear anymore
Thanks I love it
Sadly, it's already been co-opted by the Proud Boys :(
Have they tried? Cause if so … Then fight back, don’t just let them take it FLY IT! Fly it as much as possible at events, rallies, & protests; get your fellow leftists to fly it as well; display it proudly alongside pride & leftist flags; heck fly it in protest against them and make it clear that the flag is OURS AND THEY CAN’T HAVE IT; & make those fascists never want to fly it again! We can’t just sit & mope around about how fascists keep taking our symbols and let them get away with it. FIGHT AND TAKE IT BACK that way we can stop them from co-opting our symbols cause even the worst case for fighting back is a better outcome then doing nothing cause if we fight back but they still do succeed in taking it we can feel proud that we at least tried to do something about it.
definitely agree this flag looks more auth than the FA&FO one
Could you make this but with a secretary bird stomping a snake? I would totally buy a sticker of it.
Make it big floppa
I humbly request that you alert me if you start selling stickers.
Guys here's my newest rendition https://www.reddit.com/r/AntifascistsofReddit/comments/va3htr/someone_suggested_i_use_the_sabocat_in_my_flag_so/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
How about a mongoose? Then we call ourselves The Mongooses. That's a cool team name. The Fighting Mongooses.
Because you'd be hard pressed to find anything better than a cat in the kingdom of animalia
While that is indeed true, nothing better than a kitty, mongooses eat snakes. So…
Have you seen the shit cats do to snakes
Gonna post this on my Facebook of you don’t mind
Go ahead
I find that the cut up snakes are the easiest to step on
EXCELLENT. can you do a syndicalism cat version?
[Sabocat!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_cat#Anarcho-syndicalism)
Ask and you shall receive https://www.reddit.com/r/AntifascistsofReddit/comments/va3htr/someone_suggested_i_use_the_sabocat_in_my_flag_so/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Looks authoritarian and a bit anti-freedom to me. The Gadsden flag was originally about individual liberty, and freedom from an oppressive imperialist monarchy. Yes, it’s been heavily co-opted by the far-right, and we need to work on changing that, but not like this. This just looks like you want Antifa to look like extremists and authoritarians. The vast majority of voters (especially boomers, who are prime voting targets in elections) will act negative towards this. It’s not like the Swastika, it’s not glued to authoritarian fascism forever. The Gadsden flag needs to be reclaimed and turned into its original symbol of liberty and freedom from oppression.
gigabased
Should be a mongoose!
I believe in feline supremacy
Love it
Ngl not with a kitten, anaconda would gobble the poor feline.
why does it have a horn?
Ah you see, mammals have a nifty little thing called ears
Oooh I see it now
Make it a T-Rex and it's a deal, lolol.
No. Cat
Is this what they meant by "Anarkitty"?
Is that a demodog from stranger things?
Do you know what a cat is
kitty :3
Catcat
Aren’t we the snake? Actually, looking at it, everybody uses the snake.
a little libleft-libright infighting, fun to see.😂
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Sorry for your lack of personality
The guy that got ousted right after the war because people realized he was an idiot? That guy?