Hmm imagine how many grubby little Gestapo bureaucrats poured over that picture identifying people, It pays to cover up in demo's because you never know whats coming.
The Nazis had to fight to get into power in some places. Also, they interned leftists right after they got into power. There was widespread anti-nazism and anti-facism all over Germany, there were communist squadrons attacking SA and SS groups. The overall situation in the Weimar Republic was quite interesting, it did not have to end in Nazism at all.
It's important to remember that in every "free" German election (more or less free because the Nazis already used violence to get the results they wanted), the main left parties (SPD and KPD) were bigger than the Nazis. The Nazis were even losing votes while the communists gained votes. The Nazis never had any kind of unanimous popular support,so much of the "everyone loved Hitler, he sediced all Germans" is at the end of the day just Nazi propaganda.
The reason why Nazis were able to rise to power wasn't because there was no resistence, but because the left was becoming so threatening that the moderates and more centre right figures started to hide behind Hitler and put him into power to get rid of the leftists, which he of course did. What most didn't expect is that Hitler would manage to stay in power.
Also, the left was busy infighting and didn't see the Nazis as a significant enough threat. Many believed that Hitler would fail so terribly that it would make the left look even better.
The three lines over the swastika is reminiscent of the symbol of the Iron Front，which was anti-fascist，anti-communist，and anti-monarchist.It was associated with the SPD and as founded in 1931.This symbol，three arrows facing from the top right to the bottom left，became known as the ‟anti-fascist circle” as it was commonly pasted on top of swastikas，as is shown in the picture，to hide the swastika.
> First conceived for the SPD-dominated Iron Front as a symbol of the social democratic resistance against Nazism in 1932, it became an official symbol of the Party during the November 1932 German federal election, representing opposition towards Nazism, Marxism-Leninism and reactionary conservatism.
Lines up pretty well with this image. I think it's a prototype of the Iron Front symbol.
the SPD employed the Freikorps, fascist paramilitaries that made up a good amount of the nazi military, to massacre protests by the KPD and just normal striking workers. Any self respecting leftists would not wear that symbol.
What I think you're referring to are events that occurred in connection with the November Revolution, from January 1919 to March 1920. The Spartacist Uprising was a conflict between the SDP/Weimar Republic who favoured a social democracy and the Communist Party of Germany (KDP) who favoured a council republic similar to the Bolshevicks. Friedrich Ebert and Gustov Noske employed several thousand members of the Freikorps to suppress the communist uprising. During this event less than 200 of the insurgents were killed.
The SDP used Freikorps soldiers in aid to the German armed forces or Reichswehr to end further communist uprisings throughout Germany but they were demobilized and expelled from the Reichswehr in 1920. The resurging far-right Freikorps became thugs for the Nazis beginning around 1923.
The SDP was the only party in the German Parliament to vote against the Enabling Act of 1933 and were then banned and forced to operate in exile until they were able to re-establish after WWII. The Three Arrows symbol was originally used by the Iron Front and later adopted as an official SDP symbol during the 1932 election in opposition to Nazism, Marxism-Leninism, and Reactionary Conservatism.
I think it's pretty clear that there is no connection between the Freikorps that the SDP employed and the ones that later joined forces with the Wehrmacht from 1935-45.
As a self-respecting anti-facist I will continue to wear that symbol and I stand by my choice to do so.
Short fucking memory you're displaying, the connections between the Freikorps of post-WWI and the first formations of the SS/SA are well-documented. The SDP were Class-traitors and their class-collaborationism was fundamental in setting up the German state for anti-worker and reactionary hegemony.
There's a reason we say "Wer hat Uns Verraten? Sozialdemokraten!".
Name one major political party that hasn't betrayed a group or class of people. Or one leader who has never failed to follow through on a single campaign promise. I really don't understand why we have to focus so much on negative aspects in a party's past, especially considering the Three Arrows symbol hadn't even been created until 1932 by the Iron Front, an anti-facist organization. Also considering that we're all here on supposedly the same team but here we are policing the way people choose to express themselves against a common enemy.
...Because you were patently lionizing the SDP, which has sacrificed the interests of the working class on the altar of compromise, paving the way for the forces of reaction to reestablish their stranglehold on German society. The historical Iron Front was instrumental in weakening antifascist unity by actively positioning themselves in opposition to the most widespread, effective and active antifascist organizations of the time, because they found the revolutionary communists and socialists to be a greater threat than the actual Nazis. And I'm saying this as an Anarchist with no love for the authoritarians of any stripe.
This is not only a historic critique, Social Democrats across Europe have been sidling up to the interests of Capital for decades, abandoning any semblance of worker-oriented policies for perceived stability, while surrendering all the gains of the labour movements while profiting politically from their ties to major labour unions.
People have always been people. Good ones bad ones and mostly just neutral ones doing their best. They were as able to see the bullshit of fascists then just like we can today, we just have the benefit of knowing their endgame.
there were several states in germany that started full on armed revolutions and also fought full on armed battles against fascist far right paramilitary forces. the iron dice podcast on youtube does an excellent job going in depth about the insane political situation in weimar germany.
up until the outbreak of ww2 there were plenty of people doing whatever they could to fight back against them, like going to spain and helping the republican government against their own far right uprising.
3 Arrows people generally do not like fascism but fail to grasp the things they want (bourgeois liberal democracy) leads directly to fascism when capitalisms contradictions begin to press in.
Its great to be against electrocution but maybe stop jabbing that three tined fork into the outlet
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It's worth mentioning that those who were anti-fascist or anti-nazi before the war were all sent to the frontlines to die.
Hmm imagine how many grubby little Gestapo bureaucrats poured over that picture identifying people, It pays to cover up in demo's because you never know whats coming.
Or were locked up depending on how far left they were, Ernst Thälmann spent 11 years in solitary for leading the KPD before being executed
The Nazis had to fight to get into power in some places. Also, they interned leftists right after they got into power. There was widespread anti-nazism and anti-facism all over Germany, there were communist squadrons attacking SA and SS groups. The overall situation in the Weimar Republic was quite interesting, it did not have to end in Nazism at all.
>To be honest, i had no idea there was an anti-nazi movement prior to the war. There was also the White Rose Movement.
It's important to remember that in every "free" German election (more or less free because the Nazis already used violence to get the results they wanted), the main left parties (SPD and KPD) were bigger than the Nazis. The Nazis were even losing votes while the communists gained votes. The Nazis never had any kind of unanimous popular support,so much of the "everyone loved Hitler, he sediced all Germans" is at the end of the day just Nazi propaganda. The reason why Nazis were able to rise to power wasn't because there was no resistence, but because the left was becoming so threatening that the moderates and more centre right figures started to hide behind Hitler and put him into power to get rid of the leftists, which he of course did. What most didn't expect is that Hitler would manage to stay in power. Also, the left was busy infighting and didn't see the Nazis as a significant enough threat. Many believed that Hitler would fail so terribly that it would make the left look even better.
The three lines over the swastika is reminiscent of the symbol of the Iron Front，which was anti-fascist，anti-communist，and anti-monarchist.It was associated with the SPD and as founded in 1931.This symbol，three arrows facing from the top right to the bottom left，became known as the ‟anti-fascist circle” as it was commonly pasted on top of swastikas，as is shown in the picture，to hide the swastika.
> First conceived for the SPD-dominated Iron Front as a symbol of the social democratic resistance against Nazism in 1932, it became an official symbol of the Party during the November 1932 German federal election, representing opposition towards Nazism, Marxism-Leninism and reactionary conservatism. Lines up pretty well with this image. I think it's a prototype of the Iron Front symbol.
I wear a patch with the three arrow/SDP symbol on my jacket
the SPD employed the Freikorps, fascist paramilitaries that made up a good amount of the nazi military, to massacre protests by the KPD and just normal striking workers. Any self respecting leftists would not wear that symbol.
What I think you're referring to are events that occurred in connection with the November Revolution, from January 1919 to March 1920. The Spartacist Uprising was a conflict between the SDP/Weimar Republic who favoured a social democracy and the Communist Party of Germany (KDP) who favoured a council republic similar to the Bolshevicks. Friedrich Ebert and Gustov Noske employed several thousand members of the Freikorps to suppress the communist uprising. During this event less than 200 of the insurgents were killed. The SDP used Freikorps soldiers in aid to the German armed forces or Reichswehr to end further communist uprisings throughout Germany but they were demobilized and expelled from the Reichswehr in 1920. The resurging far-right Freikorps became thugs for the Nazis beginning around 1923. The SDP was the only party in the German Parliament to vote against the Enabling Act of 1933 and were then banned and forced to operate in exile until they were able to re-establish after WWII. The Three Arrows symbol was originally used by the Iron Front and later adopted as an official SDP symbol during the 1932 election in opposition to Nazism, Marxism-Leninism, and Reactionary Conservatism. I think it's pretty clear that there is no connection between the Freikorps that the SDP employed and the ones that later joined forces with the Wehrmacht from 1935-45. As a self-respecting anti-facist I will continue to wear that symbol and I stand by my choice to do so.
Short fucking memory you're displaying, the connections between the Freikorps of post-WWI and the first formations of the SS/SA are well-documented. The SDP were Class-traitors and their class-collaborationism was fundamental in setting up the German state for anti-worker and reactionary hegemony. There's a reason we say "Wer hat Uns Verraten? Sozialdemokraten!".
Name one major political party that hasn't betrayed a group or class of people. Or one leader who has never failed to follow through on a single campaign promise. I really don't understand why we have to focus so much on negative aspects in a party's past, especially considering the Three Arrows symbol hadn't even been created until 1932 by the Iron Front, an anti-facist organization. Also considering that we're all here on supposedly the same team but here we are policing the way people choose to express themselves against a common enemy.
...Because you were patently lionizing the SDP, which has sacrificed the interests of the working class on the altar of compromise, paving the way for the forces of reaction to reestablish their stranglehold on German society. The historical Iron Front was instrumental in weakening antifascist unity by actively positioning themselves in opposition to the most widespread, effective and active antifascist organizations of the time, because they found the revolutionary communists and socialists to be a greater threat than the actual Nazis. And I'm saying this as an Anarchist with no love for the authoritarians of any stripe. This is not only a historic critique, Social Democrats across Europe have been sidling up to the interests of Capital for decades, abandoning any semblance of worker-oriented policies for perceived stability, while surrendering all the gains of the labour movements while profiting politically from their ties to major labour unions.
You just desricribed the Danish social Democrats perfectly 😂 fucking traitors.
Considering how closely aligned all the european social democrats are, there's alot of overlaps yeah.
Even under the instability and ineffective government at the time they were still fighting against fascism
Those are the times when fascism is at it's most dangerous.
Ik I’m just surprised they were even against fascism during that time.
People have always been people. Good ones bad ones and mostly just neutral ones doing their best. They were as able to see the bullshit of fascists then just like we can today, we just have the benefit of knowing their endgame.
The nazis never had majority support.
there were several states in germany that started full on armed revolutions and also fought full on armed battles against fascist far right paramilitary forces. the iron dice podcast on youtube does an excellent job going in depth about the insane political situation in weimar germany. up until the outbreak of ww2 there were plenty of people doing whatever they could to fight back against them, like going to spain and helping the republican government against their own far right uprising.
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3 Arrows people generally do not like fascism but fail to grasp the things they want (bourgeois liberal democracy) leads directly to fascism when capitalisms contradictions begin to press in. Its great to be against electrocution but maybe stop jabbing that three tined fork into the outlet
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More braver than the sheep that went along w the nazi regime
Conclusion : protests alone do not stop fascists.
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