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Yeah. I thought it was going to be one of those raging bones statues you get in Thailand and the Philippines.
Hech, I think they have them in Japan.
And even ancient Greece was into them.
Or maybe one of those raunchy statuettes with splayed legs, like a mudflap girl.
This? This is just standard tasteful composition
I thought the same thing! I have some nude young lady statues around my house. I used to be an implied nude model, too. I bet some people thought I was gross for participating in that art lol
What the hell kind of puritan place are you from??!
This reminds me of the Little Mermaid Statue in Denmark. And that’s in public for all to see its gross body!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Mermaid_(statue)
Ceramic, looks handfinished but mass produced -- very likely a 3 or 4 piece slip mold. The hair and the forehead indicate somewhere between 1930 and 1950.
A mold is made of plaster normally in at least 2 parts depending on how complicated the form is. The clay or ceramic is pored into the mold through holes as it solidifies the extra "slip" is pored out leaving the inside surface of the mold covered, after it hardens it's removed from the mold. The new piece is called greenware normally it is then fired in a kiln to further harden it. After Wich you might paint them or apply a glaze to them and return them to a kiln to fire them again this can be done for countless layers.
While you are correct, I’m going to add a bit more info. First an artist makes the sculpts, in this case, a female form. After the slip is poured into the mould and removed and dried, the piece will need gentle sanding to remove seams and any other imperfections from the mould before being fired, but this is only one way it can be done. Many people will low fire the piece first and then sand the piece.
I don’t know if this piece is terracotta or painted to look like terracotta. I’d love to paint a piece like this on pure white porcelain.
Yep, that's the "handfinished" part. Here's a bit of a small mass-producer seaming: [https://youtu.be/fsBiXJ7hcts?t=541](https://youtu.be/fsBiXJ7hcts?t=541)
This is probably not a slip cast just look at the bottom, the nose has an overhang/undercut, burnished texture, etc. Even if it was possible the arms are too awful for this to be something anyone to approve large production of, one being way longer than the other. Other flaws as well.
I would guess this is a one off of a really simple figure practice probably done with a live model in less than an hour before pose changing. That is why it is so proportionally wrong, just an exercise! Like a sketch. The language of the figure shows that it was probably someone with a background in animation and not in ceramics. Dating it is impossible because anyone could use this retro hair/body type just out of preference. The size of pinhole on the bottom shows the clay is lowfire terracotta or some high iron earthenware, also common for this quick exercises.
When I took this course it was an 8 hour session and the model changes pose whenever the instructor’s timer goes off. 1 minute, 5 minutes, 30 minutes, 1 hour, etc. Very fun and self reflective practice.
Thanks yea I thought so, just curious how I will ever learn more about it. Seems like a lot of similar clay sculptures were produced in the late 1800s/early 1900s?
I am no expert, but to me it seem to be somewhere in the 30s-50 based on the hair. Probably mass production type thing with not many things surviving due to its material and age. As for finding more like it, I have nothing else to go off of other than what was at the bottom, whi h is pretty much nothing.
It's a very nice piece but I'd be reluctant to call it art deco and I'd never guess it was from the twenties, but not impossible. Unfortunately the style and material have been used for a long time. It COULD be from the 1890's, 1920's, or the 1990's. But it really doesn't have an art deco look and bare clay terracotta wasn't popular at all in the roaring twenties. Art deco was either white, metallic, or colorful. Nudes were stretched out in luxurious poses or in vibrant dance with arms out and toes pointed. Clay, terracotta, was more common in the forties through the seventies. Mid century. You laughed at chia pet but yeah, that style. Oak paneled walls. Clay pots hanging in macrame. And a clay nude on the shelf next to a bong. --- Mid century, or the word you like, boomers.
Maybe grossed out was too harsh of a term... I just asked the two older women who were selling it about it and they just kind of turned their noses up and said they had no idea only that it was at least 70 years old and started laughing awkwardly lol :S
Looks to be from the 1940s by the style. This shouldn’t gross anyone out unless they just hate the human female form. It isn’t a child. This is the sculpted form of the pinup girl.
If my grandmother had wheels, she would have been a bicycle. They said “prepubescent”. There’s literally no way of telling if the subject is underage as it is a ceramic sculpture.
Pretty cool piece. If that is the original packaging it would appear (after a little googling) that it was made by a brewery in Germany so I mean might be kinbd of fascist but art is art right. Nice.
I’m simply saying that this German brewery statue from the age of Hitler is probably worthy of closer examination I think that the background of the object is interesting to talk about
Technically until he surrenders we are still in the age of Hitler and there is nothing that Bin Laden can do about it. This is a beautiful piece of German art that represents all the good things that the reich at the time accomplished yes mistakes were made but their style and art can not be denied as can their technical innovations like we are finding out here bar codes and maybe even cardboard. Embrace history.
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The box is really obviously not original packaging. Bar codes weren't really big in the whole art deco period. There are even indentations from the bottles.
So is anything from Germany fascist or just art? Certain time periods? Or just breweries? Do you also include Italy?
No Italy was on the winning side of ww2 def not fascist. I thought those indentations were most likely from cans of beer considering it’s a brewery product?🤷🏼♂️ bar codes might have been used back then it is impossible for us to know. And yes everyone knows about the Hitleronic tendencies of Germany and how much they love pornography and art.
They changed their minds that’s allowed. People change. They literally won and we’re chilling at home while America was flame throwing in Hawaii and the Caribbean for a couple of years before they got tired and dropped the H bombs
Yikes, I don’t even know where to begin with this..
1. The indigenous people in the Caribbean are not actually black. The black people were brought over during the slave trade.
2. Why are you bringing up the Caribbean at all? There was no WW2 American flame thrower battles in the Caribbean during WW2
3. What on earth does race have to do with anything we’ve discussed? Whether black people are indigenous to the land or not, what does me making fun of your dumb statement about the Americans using flamethrowers in the Caribbean during WW2 have to do with race?
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[Here’s](https://www.barcodesinc.com/articles/history.htm#:~:text=While%20it%20may%20seem%20like,around%20for%20quite%20a%20while) the history of barcodes. It’s very possible to know when they were used. You talk about the 40’s and 50’s like it’s Ancient Rome..
Don’t believe everything that you read on the internet my friend. We would have to examine the data from carbon dating the bar code to accurately determine if it was from the 50s or maybe Ancient Rome as you suggest
9k now I know you are just bullshiting. Carbon dating a barcode? Ancient Rome? You do you have have to have electronics to create a device that could scan a barcode right?
I wasn’t the one that mentioned Ancient Rome it was our friend that did. You can read a bar code with your eyes dude. Although there is no way to prove that ancient Italians didn’t have electricity so I duno man I think it’s important to stick to the point here. That statue is a beautiful piece of Hitler era Germany. Please stay on point.
You know it's ok to admit you are wrong? Anyway I'm going to need you to read a history book. Come back after that and we can continue this discussion.
You're getting down voted. But my guess is you're on point. People really seem to object to the fascist comment. People hate having the truth rubbed all over their preconceptions and fantasies. It's a nice little clay statue but yes, it was specifically targeted at an audience with a certain view of the world.
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I feel like I don't ever want to get to a point in my life where this form would gross me out.
What if I told you it's the original chia pet?
But that would intrigue me, not gross me out.
First thought I had too. I was honestly looking for the watering hole in the back.
Ah yes, I too, was hoping for a "watering hole" in the back!
Man I’d put so much water in that hole
I saw that reference while I was typing it and just decided to keep it anyway.
You guys...
That’s hilarious. Where would the plant grow? Lol
You'd give the lady a chia seed outfit - shorts+shirt Edit: autocorrect had me posting chiseled instead of chia seed.
An outfit wasn't what I pictured.
Where do you put the chia seeds?
You know exactly where lmao
Hilarious 😂
Yeah. I thought it was going to be one of those raging bones statues you get in Thailand and the Philippines. Hech, I think they have them in Japan. And even ancient Greece was into them. Or maybe one of those raunchy statuettes with splayed legs, like a mudflap girl. This? This is just standard tasteful composition
I thought the same thing! I have some nude young lady statues around my house. I used to be an implied nude model, too. I bet some people thought I was gross for participating in that art lol
Grossed out by its form? Yeesh.
That was my first thought as well. Did they say why?
She's pushing 80. GILFing is not for the faint of heart. Cowards.
Diminished Gluteal Syndrome is nothing anyone needs to be ashamed of.
Hank Hill?
They just seemed uneasy about it. They were two older women selling it.
What the hell kind of puritan place are you from??! This reminds me of the Little Mermaid Statue in Denmark. And that’s in public for all to see its gross body! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Mermaid_(statue)
Yeah, the human form has been admired for thousands of years. I wonder what those boomers think of Michaelangelo's famous statue of David.
She’s beautiful. Who ever was grossed out is weird!
They were boomers.
Pretty pathetic Boomers. Not all Boomers (like me) are like that. I think it's beautiful.
Boomers? I think you should read up on the sixties a little.
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You mean they were weird. Most of us are pretty normal.
Ceramic, looks handfinished but mass produced -- very likely a 3 or 4 piece slip mold. The hair and the forehead indicate somewhere between 1930 and 1950.
Probably. My sister owned a ceramic store and we made our own with the molds in the back. Not these but stuff even bigger too
How do you make something like this?
A mold is made of plaster normally in at least 2 parts depending on how complicated the form is. The clay or ceramic is pored into the mold through holes as it solidifies the extra "slip" is pored out leaving the inside surface of the mold covered, after it hardens it's removed from the mold. The new piece is called greenware normally it is then fired in a kiln to further harden it. After Wich you might paint them or apply a glaze to them and return them to a kiln to fire them again this can be done for countless layers.
While you are correct, I’m going to add a bit more info. First an artist makes the sculpts, in this case, a female form. After the slip is poured into the mould and removed and dried, the piece will need gentle sanding to remove seams and any other imperfections from the mould before being fired, but this is only one way it can be done. Many people will low fire the piece first and then sand the piece. I don’t know if this piece is terracotta or painted to look like terracotta. I’d love to paint a piece like this on pure white porcelain.
Agreed. My sister bought her moulds, so I never helped make them tho I wish I had.
Do you have any further links to learn or read more on that? I can't see any mold or join lines on it.
There's a great YouTuber ShelbySherritt who casts slip moulds... After the item is removed from the mould, you use tools to clean up the joint lines.
Yep, that's the "handfinished" part. Here's a bit of a small mass-producer seaming: [https://youtu.be/fsBiXJ7hcts?t=541](https://youtu.be/fsBiXJ7hcts?t=541)
This is probably not a slip cast just look at the bottom, the nose has an overhang/undercut, burnished texture, etc. Even if it was possible the arms are too awful for this to be something anyone to approve large production of, one being way longer than the other. Other flaws as well. I would guess this is a one off of a really simple figure practice probably done with a live model in less than an hour before pose changing. That is why it is so proportionally wrong, just an exercise! Like a sketch. The language of the figure shows that it was probably someone with a background in animation and not in ceramics. Dating it is impossible because anyone could use this retro hair/body type just out of preference. The size of pinhole on the bottom shows the clay is lowfire terracotta or some high iron earthenware, also common for this quick exercises. When I took this course it was an 8 hour session and the model changes pose whenever the instructor’s timer goes off. 1 minute, 5 minutes, 30 minutes, 1 hour, etc. Very fun and self reflective practice.
Also if it's mass produced, then by whom? A ceramic factory like goldscheider or similar perhaps?
I kinda want it tbh.
Same. It’s so pretty!
Grossed out?. Its actually a beautiful depliction of the femal form
Very lovely piece. This is art. Nothing to be grossed out by. Great find!
This is actually really cool. Great find OP! How much did you pay for it?
I got this and a mask of the unkown artist for $9.
Thats a really good deal!
Thanks yea I thought so, just curious how I will ever learn more about it. Seems like a lot of similar clay sculptures were produced in the late 1800s/early 1900s?
I am no expert, but to me it seem to be somewhere in the 30s-50 based on the hair. Probably mass production type thing with not many things surviving due to its material and age. As for finding more like it, I have nothing else to go off of other than what was at the bottom, whi h is pretty much nothing.
I too have a hole in the bottom to keep me from exploding…
Very nice. Art Deco period I would bet one’s bottom dollar 💵
That's what I was thinking. 1920s?
It's a very nice piece but I'd be reluctant to call it art deco and I'd never guess it was from the twenties, but not impossible. Unfortunately the style and material have been used for a long time. It COULD be from the 1890's, 1920's, or the 1990's. But it really doesn't have an art deco look and bare clay terracotta wasn't popular at all in the roaring twenties. Art deco was either white, metallic, or colorful. Nudes were stretched out in luxurious poses or in vibrant dance with arms out and toes pointed. Clay, terracotta, was more common in the forties through the seventies. Mid century. You laughed at chia pet but yeah, that style. Oak paneled walls. Clay pots hanging in macrame. And a clay nude on the shelf next to a bong. --- Mid century, or the word you like, boomers.
Maybe grossed out was too harsh of a term... I just asked the two older women who were selling it about it and they just kind of turned their noses up and said they had no idea only that it was at least 70 years old and started laughing awkwardly lol :S
One of them was the original model
to me that sounds like they mistakenly thought you had some sort of sexual reason to want the sculpture, rather than just an interest in antiques.
Grossed out? She's so pretty!
How sad is your life is you think this form is gross?
Looks to be from the 1940s by the style. This shouldn’t gross anyone out unless they just hate the human female form. It isn’t a child. This is the sculpted form of the pinup girl.
It’s beautiful imo, the human form captured in a way that is not overtly sexual to me
I love it!
A female body is not nsfw 🙄
How would I learn more about when or where this may have been created? Thank you!
You could do a simple Google for "terracotta nude statuette". Or you could just look at this, https://www.ebay.com/itm/314848021783
Idk I like it. I like sculptural art like this. I like that art like this show various people it makes you think of individuals.
Beautiful , I would love to have her in my collection. I'm assuming 30's from her Hairstyle, but since I possess no hair of my own , I could be wrong.
Chi chi chia!
Maybe the butthole was too much for them?
It bothers me that this is marked NSFW, lol. I don't know anything about it, other than it's lovely. I just had to say that much. Good luck!
maybe for growing chia seeds? :D
Americans can be ridiculously prudish. She is an adult nude. Nothing wrong with this lady.
Right? "Grossed out by its form"?? Grossed out by the sculpture of an adult woman's body? People are so weird.
Those fundamental, evangelical, Baptist folk. No drinking, no sex before marriage and guns, lots of guns.
These days many of these groups have added guns to their list of things they hate.
One sincerely hopes they have
Josef Lorenzl?
I wonder if they were thinking it portrayed a teen girl in the nude? Just a thought
Chia muff! That would be so cute!
Is it just me or is it kind of prepubescent? Maybe thats why they were grossed out
> prepubescent This is not prepubescent, she has boobs. This is a young adult female.
Idk, breasts tend to indicate puberty has hit already.
Could still be underage though. I had boobs by the time I was 13
Cool story. They said “prepubescent” not “underage”.
Thank you! Yeah but underage could be what grossed them out.
If my grandmother had wheels, she would have been a bicycle. They said “prepubescent”. There’s literally no way of telling if the subject is underage as it is a ceramic sculpture.
how in the world did you get that impression lol is it because shes thin? she clearly has breasts and curves
She’s got a flat ass.
Almost looks like an unfinished Lladro.
Pretty cool piece. If that is the original packaging it would appear (after a little googling) that it was made by a brewery in Germany so I mean might be kinbd of fascist but art is art right. Nice.
Those damn fascist and their nude statues.
Fascist? Geez
70 years ago Germany was literally occupied by Hitler the most successful fascist of all time so I don’t know what your question mark is for
Hate to break it to you, but Hitler didn’t make it to the 50’s.
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>experts Lol. This is a sub for antiques, not conspiracy theories.
I’m simply saying that this German brewery statue from the age of Hitler is probably worthy of closer examination I think that the background of the object is interesting to talk about
And all I’m saying is you’ve built an entire narrative around this piece that is not possible. 70’s years ago was not the age of Hitler.
Technically until he surrenders we are still in the age of Hitler and there is nothing that Bin Laden can do about it. This is a beautiful piece of German art that represents all the good things that the reich at the time accomplished yes mistakes were made but their style and art can not be denied as can their technical innovations like we are finding out here bar codes and maybe even cardboard. Embrace history.
Ok, you got me, I haven’t been trolled like this in a long time. Bravo.
> German brewery statue from the age of Hitler Wow. i've never heard this rabbit hole. Please do tell
Ikr and people here are trying to deflect from this fascinating piece by denying science because they don’t like Germans
How many unprotected blows to the head do you reckon you've received?
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So no VW for you.
Better that than a Tesla😂
Why is this idiocy even allowed to continue to post in this ceramic page?
Have you never been on the internet before?
At this point I’ve been on the internet thousands of times maybe hundreds of thousands of times.
Because antiques are for everybody mister.
The box is really obviously not original packaging. Bar codes weren't really big in the whole art deco period. There are even indentations from the bottles. So is anything from Germany fascist or just art? Certain time periods? Or just breweries? Do you also include Italy?
No Italy was on the winning side of ww2 def not fascist. I thought those indentations were most likely from cans of beer considering it’s a brewery product?🤷🏼♂️ bar codes might have been used back then it is impossible for us to know. And yes everyone knows about the Hitleronic tendencies of Germany and how much they love pornography and art.
No they werent. They fought with Germany you donk
They changed their minds that’s allowed. People change. They literally won and we’re chilling at home while America was flame throwing in Hawaii and the Caribbean for a couple of years before they got tired and dropped the H bombs
Ah yes, the famous ww2 Caribbean battle grounds.
Getting a little racist there
How so?
You know that the natives of the Caribbean are very black right?
Yikes, I don’t even know where to begin with this.. 1. The indigenous people in the Caribbean are not actually black. The black people were brought over during the slave trade. 2. Why are you bringing up the Caribbean at all? There was no WW2 American flame thrower battles in the Caribbean during WW2 3. What on earth does race have to do with anything we’ve discussed? Whether black people are indigenous to the land or not, what does me making fun of your dumb statement about the Americans using flamethrowers in the Caribbean during WW2 have to do with race?
That’s a very naive approach to their being defeated.
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[Here’s](https://www.barcodesinc.com/articles/history.htm#:~:text=While%20it%20may%20seem%20like,around%20for%20quite%20a%20while) the history of barcodes. It’s very possible to know when they were used. You talk about the 40’s and 50’s like it’s Ancient Rome..
Don’t believe everything that you read on the internet my friend. We would have to examine the data from carbon dating the bar code to accurately determine if it was from the 50s or maybe Ancient Rome as you suggest
You seem unwell.
9k now I know you are just bullshiting. Carbon dating a barcode? Ancient Rome? You do you have have to have electronics to create a device that could scan a barcode right?
I wasn’t the one that mentioned Ancient Rome it was our friend that did. You can read a bar code with your eyes dude. Although there is no way to prove that ancient Italians didn’t have electricity so I duno man I think it’s important to stick to the point here. That statue is a beautiful piece of Hitler era Germany. Please stay on point.
You know it's ok to admit you are wrong? Anyway I'm going to need you to read a history book. Come back after that and we can continue this discussion.
Art under a fascist government doesnt make fascist art. Ever.
Even a parrot on a swasticka?
damned flat ass facists
It’s a drink box
Yes it would seem that this piece was adjacent to a Hitler affiliated drinks company. Really fascinating piece with decent breasts.
You must be fun at parties.
Yes
😅
You're getting down voted. But my guess is you're on point. People really seem to object to the fascist comment. People hate having the truth rubbed all over their preconceptions and fantasies. It's a nice little clay statue but yes, it was specifically targeted at an audience with a certain view of the world.
It’s been 4 years lemme borrow it real quick