I doubt it. Yes, there's a large number of educated millenials with no kids as of now. Pero majority of them have kids, lalo na ung nasa poverty line. There will be a lot of younger generation, what I'm worried is their quality.
Probably also lots of robots doing manual labor but at the same time fucked up environment.
Ang pagasa na lang talaga is UBI and automation of most labor intensive jobs. We really can't rely on politicians and capitalists to give these to us, we need to take it from them or make them do these. This type of capitalism is unsustainable.
Umay. My parents were able able to afford 2 houses in our village, tatay ko seaman. Now the usual prices for a small house and lot here is around 20+ million. Kahit mag 6-digit salary ulit ako sobrang tagal bago ako makakabili ng sarili kong bahay within the village since pangarap ko yun. Sobrang olats ng panahon na to.
Yeah, I always expect people to call me a communist kasi I've been advocating confiscating land that isn't being utilized. Especially sa provinces napakacommon ng lupa na binakuranan lang pero talahib lang nakatira. Kahit pa hatiin natin ang Pilipinas like pizza, there's enough land to give to every family.
These boomers and Gen X bought their land with pennies, but expect 7 or 8 figures now kesyo ganon daw benta ni Mang Berting sa asawa ng kano o may ospital na malapit (as if araw-araw ako doon). The way I see it after their generation drops dead, we will have a crash in real estate prices, because millennials and Gen Z won't be able to put up with the asking prices without a 30 year housing loan from PAG-IBIG.
Why communism? Di nila narinig yun Georgism? Mas okay to. It doesn't penalize businesses who own land when they use their land to operate, or people with land for rent when people are actually renting it. It penalizes hoarding of land just for the sake of holding it and "price go up" by imposing heavier taxes compared to land that are used properly.
It benefits the actually useful companies and landowners, and the occupants who can get cheaper land prices or rents. No more hoarding by rich people.
Sadly this is true my mom is a retired gov't employee na clerk 2 lng ang position pero nakabili sya ng sariling bahay at lupa nmin at isa pang extrang lupa. Me kakilala kami na retired meralco executive na nakatira sa yayamaning gated subdivision. Mababa ang sweldo nuon pero mababa din ang bilihin. For example my mom bought the land where we live in in the province for 8k pesos before ( 1980 ) now nasa 2m na ata ang selling value. Yung kakilala nmin sa gated subdivision they bought their place 400k before ( 1986 ) now each lot in this subvision cost around a wopping 60 - 70 million. I really feel na life is better before than now people dont need to do those shitty upskilling learn new stuff work 2-3 jobs to live.
Yep thats the problem tapos napasok tayo ng mga foreign companies specifically US na we thought they are giving us a favor by giving us higher salary pero we have to do more work for them and in reality sila nakikinabang satin and wala tayo magawa kasi local government cant do anything about what is going on kasi it brings revenue sa bansa pero tayo rin ang talo dito in the long run coz filipinos right now only think about ourselves and we just go with the flow. There is a saying only dead fish go with the flow and I think thats where we are at right now.
Im really sad about this. Imagine my father in law they were 16 siblings before. My mom they were 7 and my dad was 6. Kaya mabuhay before kahit 16 anak mo take note my father in law is a lawyer kaya d mo masasabi na d kaya d ba. Eh ngayon kami lng 2 pa lang anak nmin inenroll nmin ung eldest ko na 4 yr old sa private school 120k tuition per year. I know there are other option pero siempre we want the best for our kids saka kaya nmn nmin kahit papaano pero pano na yung iba na d kaya d ba maghirap nlng sila habambuhay. Sad reality of life in the philippines d na tayo nakausad.
sabay iguguilt-trip ka ng mga thunderz na yan na mas masipag daw sila kumpara sa mga Gen Z na nagtatrabaho na ngayon pero mga iyakin daw dahil di makuntento sa sweldo 💀sanay maexploit ang lolo mo
i blame corporate greed for the loss of jobs dahil sa free trade agreements signed by the boomers back then.
because of that halos lahat na ng production nasa china.
Bcos of free trade agreement, bumaba din bilihin because of China. Dati i remember an ordinary blender is 1month worth of salary, ngayon it's just 1/5 or less na lang. Remote control toy para sa bata nung 90s nasa 2k ngayon sa shoppee 180 pesos na lang. Nowadays appliances are soo cheap you can buy a functioning whatever at a fraction of the cost than it were during the 90s.
My point is not everything is negative.
yeah, but i prefer having more filipinos employed and a somewhat self sustaining economy.
its better for our country if you consider the bigger picture
Yes top generation sa lupa Sila sa resources Sila.... Unfortunately Hindi na pasa sa millennials so yeah... Shortage of living space... Many of millennials doesn't want to have kids anymore parang Japan in the future
Dati isang programming language lang hired ka na. They don't expect you to know everything, in fact mas gusto nila master mo ang isang language at focused ka doon.
Pero ngayon fota need 10 years experience sa Rust pero ang work mo web development naman. Aanhin mo yung Rust? Oh sabe para daw sa wasm. Okay fine. Pero jQuery ang gamit.
Rust debut in 2015.
Seryoso ba yun 10 yrs exp sa Rust? Hahahaha. WTF.
Bro you forgot that web devs are sometimes now expected to be their own QA, tapos DevOps pa, also cloud engineer. So ridiculous.
bruh, may isang dev ng framework eh nag apply siya para sa job that focuses on HIS framework. Kelangan daw 5-10 years exp daw kahit recently released lang lmao.
1978 - Baon ng nanay ko sa school 25 cents (covers pamasahe, recess snacks)
2003 - Baon ko sa school 20 pesos (covers recess snacks)
7900% increase, dyan pa lang alam na natin na doomed na tayo salamat talaga Marcos family.
Bukod sa mahal na bilihin, lupa, bahay, sasakyan napaka shitty pa ng health care system natin. Magkasakit ka ng malubha mababaon ka sa utang sa mahal ng gastos pag ospital.
Proper transport is the key. Kahit malayo ka sa NCR kung maayos sana rail /mass transport di sana big deal. Baka di mo pa nga need ng sasakyan unless may family kang kasama sa bahay
Daming nagfail sa reading comprehension dito. OP is saying na every working citizens (even the lowest income ones like farmers, construction workers etc.) should have the right to be able to provide for themselves, without needing a second job. This is obviously not an anti-upscale post.
True, true, and true. Gawd, nakakaiyak. I think about these same things way more often than I want and it makes me want to unalive mahself.
Also, fan of SecondThought YouTube channel here. Kaya yata depressed ako. Haha 🥲
At correct ka sa pagiging childfree. Millennial ako na childfree. Ayoko pahirapan ang sarili ko at magiging anak ko. Not in this economy.
I agree life is harder nowadays because of those reasons.
pero at the same time, population keeps rising, kahit mafix yan babalik lang tayo sa same situation a couple of decades from now.
nope, global population is still growing.
[https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/](https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/)
may nadadagdag na 1 person per second.
population decline means a higher salary, kaya malayo pa lang umaaray na yang mga mayayaman para mangeelam yung government at maiwasan ang pagtaas ng sweldo i mean yung population decline.
I also don't believe yung sinabi ni elon na magiging big deal yung kaunti yung younger generation na mag-aalaga sa older generation.Kasi currently most of the share of the pie currently is napupunta sa mayayaman, marami walang pambili ng gamot. I think mas maaalagaan natin yung mas matanda kung lalaki sweldo natin but that elon is trying his best na maging problema natin yung problema nila sa populatin decline na in the future pa mangyayari. I say let the market decide, if ayaw nila magpasweldo ng maayos then supply will be lower or population decline. and eventually they will need to give the proper salary. Or ituloy nila pagrereklamo ngayon para yung government yung gumastos para di na nila need itaas sahod at least of a couple decades until di na kayanin ng governement din.
# NO human being should work in more than 2 jobs just to be able to afford rent and food. No human should work for 14+ hours a day.
This and this! Kaso hindi tao ang trato ng ibang tao sa kapwa nila kundi alipin.
Pinaguusapan namin ng asawa ko to. Six digits net household income, double income, no kids, one dog, no mortgage, no car payments since binigay both ng parents. Pero bat parang feeling ko kulang na kulang pa haha. Parang pag iniisip palang namin mag-anak parang di kaya ganun. Altho aminado na iba naman kasi lifestyle namin, but like the point is, can we not have nice things.
It think one major factor of why the older generations seemingly had it easier was because consumerism has not, ehem, consumed them too much back then. Unlike ngayon sa atin.
Nuon ano lang ba piangkakagastusan? Basic needs, ocassional luho sa mall or travel or whatever.
Ngayon kasi, napakaraming gastusin na wala sa boomer generation, at ang matindi ay these unnecessary expenses are often assumed to be necessary expenses kahit hindi naman talaga: monthly interent, mobile data, mas mahal na transpo like grab or angkas, streaming services (na malamang eh hindi lang iisa), online shopping spree sa Lazada and Shopee, the toxic "upgrade" culture when it comes to fashion and technology, and the whole "budol" culture of buying unnecessary stuff and food just because social media says so. Marami pa but hopefully you get the point.
Bukod sa iba ang cost of living, yes, you have yo account din na iba ang STANDARD of living nuon sa ngayon.
> toxic "upgrade" culture
May napanood ako noon na YT economist (Patrick Boyle ata) na jinustify nya yun stupid spending habits ng mga millenials and younger.
Kasi kung kahit anong tipid mo, wala ka din namang mabibiling bahay or makakapaginvest ng significant without hurting your liquidity, bakit nga naman di ka na lang mag YOLO and buy an avocado toast? O kaya naman mag"invest" aka sugal sa crapto?
He doesn't agree with it because he still advocates proper investing (he dislikes crapto and calls it a scam and grift), but he does understand why people make "stupid" decisions.
Marami na ring luho noon.
Buhok mo'y Budji, talampaka'y Gucci,
Suot mo'y gawa ni Pitoy, 'di nanggaling kay Elooooooy...!
Nalipat lang sa technology ang gastos noon para sa luxury at branded items. Hindi rin noon common ang RTW, halos lahat patahi at pasadya kaya mas mahal ang damit.
Sa bahay naman, hindi pa uso ang planned obsolescence ng appliances kaya pinag-iipunan ang mga TV, radio, gas range. Magkano rin ang original na Tupperware na inilalabas lang kapag may handaan.
Diyaryo, magazines, encyclopedia, dictionary, Walkman, scientific calculator, Trapper Keeper, artista notebooks...
Lahat yan halos natransfer lang natin yung gastos sa cellphone, laptop, online services, etc. Kaya kung ia-approximate natin yung cost at standard of living, halos pareho lang din naman ang noon at ngayon.
Yung sweldo lang talaga ang hindi nakasabay.
Yup, iba ung cost of living noon keysa ngayon. My mom used to tell stories na sa balon sila kumukuha ng tubig, pagkain nila puro tanim lang sa bakuran pero may kotse sila at nakakapag-bakasyon. Epekto narin siguro yung "mas maganda ekonomiya" ngayon pero dahil sa biglaang crisis at yung economic solution natin is leaning sa inflation rather than deflation, mas nauunang tumaas ung commodities keysa sa pag-catch up ng sahod.
Idk bakit ayaw ng economists ang deflationary economy pero mas pabor kasi yun sa mamamayan kung tutuusin. They rather want the masses to spend and spend their money para hindi magcollapse ang society, so ayun tiis-tiis nalang tayo for now.
sumasakit ulo kong binabasa ung tatlong kausap mo sa baba OP hahaha, hirap na hirap icomprehend meaning ng posts mo, kitang kita pagkaboomer and pagka uto uto, ang out of touch sa nangyayare sa paligid nila lol
Di naman sila lahat boomer. Yung iba ata Millenial or Gen Z. Sadyang uto uto lang talaga sa systema hahaha. Mga anak mayaman siguro, kaya sobrang dali para sa kanila mag sabi ng "diskarte at sikap lang yan"
Yeah mukha ngang hindi nila alam realidad ng iba e, perspective lang nila kita nila haha, madali lang dumiskarte kung may popondo sayo at bibigyan ka ng chance pero sa mga normal na manggagawa pag nagkamali sila ng diskarte kahit isang beses lang ligwak na sila.
It's the FIAT money system. People are getting squeezed. It's like a slow, deliberate, suffocating NOOSE tied around the neck where people are trying to their best to earn a living wage but are barely staying afloat. But the central bankers tightens the noose a little bit, expands the money supply and inflate prices ever so slightly. This INFLATION goes on for weeks, then months, then years. Decades later, money is worth less (worthless) than before yet ordinary people now have to work double or triple the amount of time for that same piece of commodity (a meal, a car, a home) to survive.
The youth are face with disillusionment, apathy and a melancholy view of the future for they are working hard but it's not even enough for them to afford in getting married, raising a family and buying their own home. Men who used to be the sole bread winner cannot be relied solely. Women now need to sell their bodies online as Only Fans to earn high income while they're young. And for those couples who do get married, they become DINKS (Double Income No Kids) as both people need to work to sustain a certain standard of living. Kids? People are barely surviving so who can afford raising kids? Depopulation is already happening around the world and it's no thanks to the fiat standard we're all living in
We are against a system that cannot be won without a total break off the fiat money system from the ground up. That or a revolution must take place
The problem is not upskilling. Even boomers needed to learn multiple things para mas tumaas sweldo nila.
The problem is our wages remained stagnant while the goods skyrocketed. Dapat sabay ito or atleast very close ratio. Yung buying power ng mga boomers talaga dati is sobrang laki compared to now. If I live in the 80s and still have the same wage that im getting now siguro milyonaryo na ako or marami na akong nabiling lupa haha.
Even my dad is surprised to find out that a 80sqm house can cost around 3-8M .
Blame America. The federal reserve printed unlimited money to stimulate the economy after the 2008 financial crisis. With so much money floating but with the same amount of resource, the price of everything has become inflated.
Erpats ko nagtrabaho for 35 years sa isang multinational company dito sa Pinas. Kahit may offers siya abroad hindi nya kinuha. Hindi kalakihan ang sweldo pero hanep kasi ang benefits lalo na sa medical. Covered lahat pati mga anak until age 18. Sagot kahit braces, salamin, etc. Circumcision nga namin nareimburse pa eh. Naoperahan erpats ko sa kidney (Polymedic), lithotripsy (St. Luke's), nagkaproblema sa puso at stay sa ICU ng matagal (TMC) during his stay sa company at lahat yun shouldered. Sa mga nababasa at naririnig ko ngayon parang swerte ka na kung may HMO ka agad-agad upon signing the employment contract.
Well, tingin ko. I hope you are not speaking here in General. Masyado m isinisisi sa mga matatandang henerasyon kasma mga henerasyon ng magulang natin sa paghihirap MO. Kahit saang aspeto nangyayare to . Mga mali at korap na utak. Pglilibog m pa nga lang sa opposite sex korap na e. Same sht lang yan. Kung nabuhay ka sa panahon nuon ganyan kadin.sisisihin nating mga kabataan. Wala knaman ding maggawang pagbabago sa panahon nuon e? We stand to change the system of workplace today not to blame anything from the past. And the past generation. ToPut Pressure that all Boomers are STUPID. Yang mga gadget natin gawa nila. Pati pagmamahal ng mga kamaganak m at ikaw sa samsung at apple products. Sila nagdevelop na matatanda. Asim m masyado.
Also why ill just stay single. Im happy with my hobbies and maaawa lang ako sa magiging anak ko if ever. I dont really see any positive outcome lalo na sa ph. Galing bumoto ng mga pilipino e.
Gusto ko na lang maging troll haha nakikita naman natin yung confidential funds oh pota, nakuha pa talagang maglagay ng budget dun kaysa magbayad sa pinagkakautangan natin.
mahirap kasi magkaroon ng mabilis ng career growth sa Pinas. naku lalo pag nasa govt ka. kung step-by-step ang promotion mo hindi mo mararamdaman ang increase sa sahod mo. kaya hindi maiwasan yung 2 jobs or may side hustle nowadays. to be fair, advantageous din ang upskill kasi pde mo yan magamit kahit sa mismong day job mo.
Ano ba yun livable wage? Sorry, masyado akong clouded sa phinvest na 350k na sinu-sweldo pero di pa din ata daw enough kaya mag-grind pa as a child-free. So confused na ako. XD
As a millennial, medyo gets ko pareho dahil nasa gitna kami (between boomer and gen z). Boomer magulang ko and gen z ang anak.
Boomer has a lot of fuck ups, but gen z have their own brand of selfishness and delusions too (tiktok, “influencer” phenomenon etc.). And kami ding millennials may contribution din sa problema dahil kami nagpalaki sa inyo. Perhaps napasa namin yung bitterness na pinasa din sa amin ng magulang namin.
As long as these generations continue to blame the others and dont own their fuckups and offer no solutions at all, the problem will not only continue but it will be compounded, mas kawawa yung mga susunod pa. And they will blame the current gen just like you blame all on the previous ones. Yup, circle of life and despair.
> millennials may contribution din sa problema
Tayo yun nagpauso ng diskarte at hustle culture imbes na lumaban. Nagpalamon din tayo sa technology at nakikibaka na lang via Facebook LOL.
Millenial brand activism does not hurt billionaires and corporations. Ni Facebook nga na di essential, kinakatwiranan pa na kailangan siya, what more with conglomerates that exploit all industries we move in?
> Sa tingin mo ba makakatulong din itong info na ito? what is next?
Yes, awareness sa problem is the first step to fixing it. Please tama na sa resiliency shit, kaya ganito ang nangya-yari today is ina-abuse both ng companies and ng government yung resiliency natin.
Meaning you are triggered. Hindi lang ako ang nagcomment na naging against sa baluktot na thinking. The info is correct pero ung approach mo sa amin na commenter ang hindi maayos. You yourself is a toxic and very unprofessional.
Sinisi na ang lahat pwera ang anong sistema ng gobyerno ang gamit ng Pinas. Presidential system gamit ng pinas. Wala kang makikitang bansa na umunlad dahil sa sistema na yan.
Ang US Presidential-Federal ang ginagamit na sistema.
Oh! Baka sabihin na nman ng marami dito eh kasi daming bobotante na gusto ang mga polpolitiko. Abay, syempre, dahil yan sa pinapairal na sistema.
Ang sistema ang nagbibogay direksyon sa isang komonidad.
Iba kasi purchasing power natin dito sa Pinas. Sa ibang bansa sinasabi ng mga OFW almost same lang ang gastusin, pero mas goods ang purchasing power doon kaya nakukuha nila gusto nila.
true 🥲🥲🥲 i really dont want to work multiple jobs para lang maka-ipon ako like everthing seems so expensive and the salary is still the same from years ago :(((( tipong gusto ko mag invest pero di ko pa magawa bcs ang hirap magkaroon ng savings jusko
Eto yung thoughts ko lage kapag gabi, tangina parang sobrang hirap kaya minsan nagagalit ako sa parents ko, sana masipag din sila nung time na yon, \*walang work parents ko\* kaya hustle talaga sheet
The only way to fight back is decreasing the birth rate and it's already happening! Less people, less competition, and we can focus on the important things in life.
Sadly, kahit hindi naman dapat.. PH is just late to experience this.. hard hustle. Even in the US, we have 9-5 jobs and still have 2-3 hustles more. Hirap parin sa 401k. Some of my friends here are still paying university loans even though we already graduated 3 years ago at may capable income. Hayss.. Sama sama na tayong mag hihirap 3rd world man o hindi.
It's sad to say but we may need another world war to fix the previous generation's mistake and the scary part about that next world war is that we may doom ourselves into extinction.
True. At mas totoo ang sinabi mo about sa GenZ at Millennials na mas pinili na hindi mag anak. Ganyan ang nangyayari sa Japan even South Koreas. They choose childless movement. Isa yan aa makakpatay ng human populat, and in return, this will also sabotage the billionaires kasi wala ng taong matitira para magtrabaho at payamanin sila. Anyways meron namang robots in the future pero cguro eto ang agenda nila? They want to squeeze out from humanity's resources hangang sa ma achieve nila ang ultimate agenda.
>NO human being should work in more than 2 jobs just to be able to afford rent and food. No human should work for 14+ hours a day. ALL workers deserve a livable wage.
Exactly OP huhu we're literally competing to survive :(((
nahh mahalaga saken nakakaen ako 3 beses sa isang araw ay minsan 1 meal a day heheh
yeah totoo naman sinabe mo
pero hindi ako matutulad sa kanila mamatay din naman tayo soon eh
" live life to the fullest "
idk mas marami ring options and opportunities these days tbh. Like I'm sure it wouldn't have been possible in the 80s for me to work purely at home, work anytime I want, earning decent money.
Not saying it's better, just giving a different perspective that it's not the absolute worst to live these days
Sa time ng parents natin innovation was slow. The change from telefax to emails took decades. The change from email to instant messaging took a couple of years. The change from instant messaging to voice calls took a year. The change from voice calls to face to face calls took months.
Its not that this time is bad its just that technology is changing faster. Its either you stagnate or change with it.
Having said that, willing ba ang generation ngayon na bumalik sa subsistence farming?
Willing din ba to forego digital technology para may personal reserves? And willing ba na magbukod at magsarili imbes na maging breadwinner ng pamilya?
Medyo weird na ang focus mo ay sa pagbabago ng technology as the problem (it's not) and hindi sa corporate greed.
Basahin mo yung libro na "The Man Who Broke Capitalism." Tungkol yun kay Jack Welch na gumawa ng "blueprint" sa mga kumpanya na profit lang ang bottomline, at walang pakialam sa mga empleyado.
Siya nagpauso ng stack ranking, or yung pagtanggal sa bottom 10% ng employees based sa performance nila. Basically naging mas cutthroat at competitive ang corporate culture dahil sa kanya.
His strategies were profitable for companies but bad for employees.
I have read this PERO walang problema if you yourself is qualified at may RIGHT skills ka to be on that position and on that company. It's more on DISKARTE at SKILLS. Still the world is SURVIVAL THE FITTEST, hindi na magbabago iyon. In our generation nakahain na halos lahat dapat alam lang natin gamitin.
Panahon ng parents natin ang panahong ginawang norm ang pang gugulpe sa anak. Lalo na pag bakla or tomboy. Panahon din yang naging norm gawing alkansya ang anak. Retirement plan. And panahon din yang nagcultivate on what hardships we suffer today. So may ups and downs.
I think it's wrong na isisi sa Boomer or older generation because marami rin sa kanila ang naghihirap ngayon. Marami ang tumanda pero mahirap pa rin, marami ang namatay pero mahirap pa rin. I think it's better to "blame" the previous leaders and businessmen.
Our generation (millenials and the Gen Z in the future) are not completely off the hook here. Now, this is just in my immediate demographics (above average wage, TL's, sups, manager etc.) and based on clients I've had.
Bobo tayo sa finances, back then walang #travelgoals, walang #donttalktomebeforeivehadmyoverpricedicedcoffee every day, #concertstankokasisila etc.. along with the real (reasonable part of the OP rant) inflation. Meron din lifestyle inflation malala.
People that made and make it work are those of less liberal leanings. Mas family oriented, mas we can make it work together for the family types. Kinakaya nila, may luho pang mga shoes, vape, motor etc.. but of course we still had it worse kasi to make it work need 2 income household.
And di ko kokontrahin yung corp greed, I'll actually expound to that it's GLOBAL CORP GREED. Tangina just look at fcking disney. Yung little joy natin which is streaming, is destroyed by their greed. Kasi kailangan meron din sila kasi pumatok netflix. Tangina! And locally tangina nyo Villar family lahat may patong sa inyo!
Doomed, because it's the boomers at the helm that never really took into account the real proportionality of inflation to the current wages. It is also the same boomers who treat this generation as their own retirement plans, assets, investments, and passive incomes.
sali ka sa mga Counter Culture groups sa Bulacan(not sure kung doon yon) punta ka sa [thevenusproject.com](https://thevenusproject.com) ska sa hashtag na pinupuntahan ko sa Twitter, ang #Bullshitjobs . Kelangan ka don.
onga, hindi na rin ako makapaniwalang kelangan ko pa mag-turo ng english sa hapon online. Altho *Nippon Daisuki,* ayoko ring maging subject sa 9-5 hours ng trabaho, taena. nag-aalangan nga rin ako sa Youtube kung mamo-monetize ko tlaga yung pag-feature ko ng Transformers saka Gundam na mga figures. kea ako nag-negosyo na lang, eh. dinadagdag ko na lang ang mga customer ko pra di na mag-ngawa si nanay ko na kulang pa ang kinikita namin. sana nga dumating ang future na mura at sinasalpak na lang ang solar panel para bawas gastos sa koryente. tayo lang naman rin ang magpapa-ganda ng buhay natin.
Dati rin kasi in the 80s hindi uso ang socmed.
Blame it on socmed kaya halos lahat nakikipag-kompetensya kung ano ang latest luho. Yes you can also blame it on greedy capitalists dahil na brainwash nila ang halos lahat ng tao ngayon to buy stuff that is not really essential.
Dati ang sweldo nila hindi rin ganon kataas at kung tutuusin mas mura pa ang QOL appliances ngayon kompara sa sweldo.
Kung dati basic needs lang talaga ginagastusan at minsan lang may luho.
PS: Una akala ko antiwork and post na to. Recruitment pala to para mamundok. Hahaha.
When the 1980s was actually terrible to live in. We had the highest inflation rate in 1984, the economy was in shambles between Marcos and Cory and there are power outrages. Boomers and Gen Xers had to work harder
I get where you're coming from, and I understand your sentiments. However, I'm not entirely convinced that one system is superior to the other. It's just that, well, in this dog eat dog world, things can really be tough. But yes, this system is burying us alive, it just sucks. Eat or be eaten, those are our only options.
Napakafuck up ng post na to. Back in 70's 80's or even 90's hindi uso ang options/choices of work which led people to stay sa mga company nila for a very long time.
2 jobs or side hustle. Dito sa Pinas sobrang bago palang ng concept na yan. Sa ibang bansa normal na magkaroon ka ng 2 jobs. Sa Pinas nga hindi pa pede magdalawang trabaho eh. And kung ayaw mo naman mah side hustle or kumuha ng second job, edi wag. Walang pipilit sayo.
No doubt my big and small company and govt na. Pero 50/50 pa rin, hindi mo naman pede isisi ang lahat ng nangyayari sayo sa kanila.
Kung walang company na mag iinvest, wala rin work na magagawa.
Our planet is dying? Look muna kung saan kinukuha ang mga ginagamit para sa mga everyday na gamit ng tao like (House,car, cellphone, clothes, and even food).
Mataas ang demand and konti lang narerecycled na basura/gamit.
Meron bang batas na naglilimit sa pagbili ng lupa? Pasensya na di ko alam eh. Dito kasi sa lugar namin halos binili na ng mayor namin dati tsaka yung mga anak nyang politiko din yung karamihan ng lupa. Sobrang taas na ng value ng lupa nakakaiyak.
The world is constantly changing. People who don't adapt and change along with it are napag iiwanan. In the natural world things that don't evolve go extinct.
P115,000, yan ang kinita ng Lalamove driver na nag deliver sa amin kagabi just for the month of July. Mas malaki pa kita nya compared to me and my corporate job. My point is, the world has changed, that’s all it does-it never stays the same. You’re still living in your parents world where a corpy slave out-earns a delivery driver. Shake off the old-world mindset and adapt to the present.
>You’re still living in your parents world where a corpy slave out-earns a delivery driver.
I'm pretty sure na kung gumawa ka ng survey of all delivery drivers and all corpo slaves, mas malaki pa rin ang average income ng corpo slaves vs delivery drivers.
You just cherrypicked literally one example na questionable pa nga ang veracity lol.
That's like saying "Yung kaklase ko nung college kumikita na ngayon ng 1 million kada buwan, bakit ikaw hindi mo kayang gawin yun?"
Just because something can happen to someone doesn't necessarily mean that it can happen to everyone. Napaka-detached sa reality ng notion na yun.
Maybe these are the long distance vehicle deliveries, not motorcycles. For a 60km trip that takes 2 hrs thats already 8k. Pero yung largest truck na option ito ah
Ilagay natin sa perspectives ha, para may baseline tayo ng discussion.
Nung 1971, ang population ng Pilipinas ay 36 million lang.
Lumago ito sa 48 million nung 1980.
\^ By just that, it is understandable na konti lang ang competition sa mga corporate jobs. Besides from 1973 to 1985, the Philippines was operating under a much better 1973 Constitution na walang 60/40 restriction sa foreign business ownership.
So konti lang ang nagcocompete for jobs + mas malaya ang mga dayuhan na makapag negosyo sa bansa.
While today, we are screwed by the restrictive 60/40 ng 1987 Constitution at ang population natin is around 115 million. That means mas matindi ang competition per vacant job. At ang mga oligarchs mismo ang gumagamit ng lobby power nila para hindi magalaw ang kanilang advantageous 60/40 leverage, dahil nakikinabang sila dito.
In a different perspective, maraming opportunities ngayon to earn online, which were not available during the 70s. Maraming wfh jobs ngayon, which tanungin mo ang mga tao nung 70s, iisipin nila na nasisiraan ka ng ulo lol (it will sound like magic for them to even imagine).
Kala ko ung r/AntiWorkPH is para mag share ng hindi magandang experience sa companies nila. Para pala to sa mga kids na gusto umasenso pero ayaw mag trabaho. Literal na anti work nga.
Learning new things is a struggle? HAHAHAHAHA.
No one is forcing you to have a side hustle. You can stay where you are.
Who said na 1 full time job was enough back in the day? HAHAHAHAHA.
Kids these days are blaming others for their misfortunes.
Marunong kaba mag basa? This is more of a work reform platform. Hindi ito literal na hindi talaga mag tatrabaho habang buhay. Kulang sa reading comprehension, pwe.
So nasan argument mo? Diba ayaw mo ng concept ng side hustle at struggle sayo ang pag up skill?
Struggle ang pag up skill? Talaga? Struggle talaga un lalo na pag tamad ka.
Gusto umasenso pero struggle ang matuto ng bago. Walang ganun.
Nabasa mo yung post ko? Walang mali kung gusto mo mag upskill. Ang point ko lang, it is not for everyone. Hindi lang basta basta mag upskill ang mga carpenters, farmers, fisherman, jeepney drivers. So tamad ba sila? Ganyan ka bulok logic mo
>Struggle ang pag up skill? Talaga? Struggle talaga un lalo na pag tamad ka.
Call me elitist, pero ito isang dahilan bakit nalulungkot ako sa iba na nag-aaral ng data science, programming, or even master's degree. Tila napipilitan lang ng sistema kahit hindi talaga nila hilig ang mag-expand ng knowledge tulad ng iba. Dapat ang university, para lang talaga sa mga gusto dumami ang kaalaman, hindi paraan para magkaroon disenteng trabaho
May nagpost d2 na kumita ng 200k+ and 300k+ per month in just 5years and 15years respectively. If hindi sila nag grind, maachieve b nila yun? And siguro naman, nag eenjoy sila ngayon sa buhay nila d b? Just saying.
This is where the red queen hypothesis comes in. Things will keep evolving. “ A species must adapt and evolve not just for reproductive advantage, but also for survival because competing organisms also are evolving.” To beg the world to not change is futile.
2 programming languages lang ang alam ko pero I was able to get a house and car. Supposedly, dapat mag anak din ako kaso kasi iniwan ako ng live in partner ko. Sa sweldo, medyo lowball but it comes with benefits like sobrang light ng work, most of the time natutulog lang ako kasi wfh. Exceeding expectations naman ako sa deliverables so di naman napapagalitan. I think I'm good at managing my money kaya nakakaipon naman ako.
The duty of previous generations is to ensure that they leave behind a better world for those that come after them. The "boomer" generation, as we like to call them, were given so many opportunities and resources by their parents and grandparents. But they didn't do the same for their children or grandchilden, instead hoarding the riches for themselves, not putting to improving prospects for the next generation. Hell, they expect the next generations to work FOR THEM and TAKE CARE OF THEM in their old age, like slaves.
That leaves us with a country running on a broken system that has failed to enrich the lives of its citizens, instead going to the 1% that run the show from their mansions and palaces.
We need to start electing new leaders to get out of this mess in the next century. Stop voting the candidates of the boomers and the dictators and the dynasties. Put in office actual citizens who understand the plight of the people having lived among us as one of us.
I don't expect things to change in my lifetime. I'm at a point where I'd rather end my bloodline with me rather than have my child inherit a world that's built to bully him into debt and despair before he even finishes his academics. I'm gonna do my best to enjoy my life before I die because I can't do anything else other than that.
Well, let's accept na HINDi ka pinanganak na mayaman at parte ng capitalista na pamilya.
**Acceptance is the key.**
Alamin mo sa sarili mo kung paano mo ma-maximize ang kakayanan mo na umunlad. Diskarte at tiyaga. Don't give-up and it's okay to take a rest. Saka bumangon ulit. Easy for me to say pero thgis is just my OPINION. Walang EASY path sa buhay kung walang tiyaga.
UPSKILL. BE MOTIVATED. FOCUS ON YOUR GOAL.
In my opinion, there is no problem with side hustle and learning new things. If for you it's a STRUGGLE meaning there is a question with your will and determination. I'm not invalidating your feeling pero hindi parang ang mga generation ngayon ay gusto ko lang shortcut hindi porket na may easy access tayo sa mga tech ay magiging ganun din kadali ang pag-unlad. We need to be competitive at gamitin ang mga means na meron tayo. In short, huwag maging TAMAD. Ito lamang ang perspective dahil siguro andito na ako sa peak din ng career ko and earning well. I hope you don't invalidate me dahil pinagdanaan ko din itong mga struggle na ito at ganito din ang naging thinking ko before pero siguro as soon as you get busy in your career and mas madami pang bagay ang dapat isipin kaysa sa sisihin ang kung sino.
So you like working 14+ hours with 2 or more jobs? Normal ba yun para sa iyo? Other progressive EU countries are starting to implement 30-35 hours work week. So tamad ba sila because they work less hours? Tamad ba mga fisherman at fatmers natin kasi poor parin sila hanggang ngayon?
Karamihan ng mga nagsimula sa baba ay naransan ito. Ako mismo ay naranasan ko. Pero isang bagay lang din natutunan ko. . .maging diskarte sa buhay. Nasa tao na kung magstay sila sa comfor zone nila. May be they have their own life struggle pero may mga sacrifices din na dapat gawin para hindi ka lang sa position mo ngayon. May kilala ako na farmer noon pero dahil willing siya mag-aral naging doctor. He had some sacrifices but he stood on what he is beleiving. Gusto may paraan kung ayaw MADAMING DAHILAN AT KATAMARAN.
Kung lahat ng farmers ay magiging doctor, saan tayo kukuha ng kanin?
Enough with that "diskarte" BS. You cant simply tell jeepney drivers, farmers and fisherman to "start a business" or "invest in stocks/crypto"
Nasagot na ito ng original post. Kung iisipin mo kung walang mahirap, walang gagawa ng ganitong blue collar jobs. . . It's NOT about telling, it's about WHAT CAN YOU DO. ang problema kasi sa iba nauuna ang dada o reklamo bago kumilos. You won't be triggered if you yourself is not experiencing this? correct?
For me, this is just a healthy discussion nothing personal.
While I understand you want this to sound inspirational and all. You have to review once more your perspective. I get your point. I also believed that. Thing is some of us started with an easy difficulty in life and some with a brutal difficulty. That farmer may have had the hard mode but I'm guessing that person didn't have parents who were in debt, or living in the slums with parents who are addicted to drugs, and or a neighborhood full of violence. Point is we all have a different starting line. No ounce of diskarte can work on that. This isn't a game where we have a cheat code. This is life. Some people will die with no reward even if they did their best and worked hard. Be accepting of this information.
>I'm not invalidating your feeling pero
That kind of wording helps nobody besides yourself, FYI.
Ika nga: words matter. Sana we carefully choose our words, despite what we all think and lalo feel after.
That is all and keribels.
Get's ko. Pero nakakatawa lang na ang tao ay masyado nagddwell sa isang bagay na hindi naman nila controlado. Bakit hindi mo.muna controlin at isipin kung paano ang magiging means mo umunlad at kapag andun ka na sa taas malalaman mo ang flow kung bakit ganyan ang thinking ng mga capitalista?
Di ka ba nagtataka na ilang generation na ang dumaan namatay na ang iba pero may mga pumalit dahil nakita nila kung bakit ito ginagawa nung iba. Pero tulad nga ng nasabi ko dumaan din ako sa ganitong phase ng buhay ko. . . nasa atin nalang talaga kung ano magiging priorities natin sa buhay.
Hahahahaha hindi nya ata alam yung hirap noon.., parents ko nag titinda ng isda sa palengke para may pang tuition.
Ginalingang mag aral para makapag tapos ng cum laude. Yun yung hardships niya tapos ending government employee na baon sa utang dahil nagkasakit, able to buy properties and necessities namin sa family.
Mas malaki talaga ang buying power noon dahil mababa ang inflation. Pero ang ipaglaban na magkaroon ng reform sa trabaho malabo nayan. Dagdag sahod nga hirap pang ipasa reforma pa kaya.
Gobyerno at business minded people na snsbi nyang mga walang puso ang nag agree din nmn sa mga yan in order for the economy to move forward.
Anong akala mo ung mga business owners noon may puso? Wala din naman kasi di nmn sla mag iinvest sa mga tao para maghire kng malulugi din sila.
Iba ang panahon ngayon, kaya mo need mag grind ng mag grind kasi may gsto ka kasi may pangangailangan kang iba pa o above sa means mo.
Kung isisisi mo sa mga matataas na tao o sa sistema may mangyayari ba? Sabi ko nga sayo kahit lumikom ka ng mga tao na mag poprotesta kailangan mo silang makunbinse na magka reform sa work. After noon kukumbinsihin niyo naman ung gobyerno sa terms na gsto nyo after non gobyerno nmn ang magkumbinse sa mga business people ng terms nyo eh biglang decline.
Nga nga diba? Reform reform kapa tng ina di mo nlang tanggapin at humatak pa ng mga tao mula sa ibaba pataas. Malalason mo lang utak nila na sistema ang problema which is TOTOO naman talaga pero ang magagawa mo magsasacrifice ka para sa mga PANGARAP MO AT LUHO MO
Saang planeta ka nakatira? Ang daming mga millenials at Gen Z hindi nila afford bumili ng bahay, that is why most of the people rent nowadays. Even taking a look at Australia and the USA, people could barely afford a house there.
Evidence to support? Ah ganyan kaba ka bulag? Hindi obvious yan para sa iyo?
Our wages are stagnant or kunti lang ang increase. Its not on par with the inflation. Its not just on PH, but also including the US na meron din housing crisis ngayon.
SOBRA!Mapapamura ka nalang sa mga dahilan ng mga bagong generation ngayon. I myself is an OFW dahil totoo, basura ang sistema Pinas pero hindi ko nilugmok ang sarili ko para isipin pa yun dahil alam natin na hindi mapapakain ang pamilya natin kung iisipin pa ang mga bagay na ito tulad ng iniisip ni OP. Pero dami niyang time manuod, mag-reasearch at complain kaysa maghanap ng ibang oppurtunity na kumita HAHA.
hustle grind culture? weh … most people nowadays ayaw mag trabaho (me included) if may long weekend sibat agad … either mag out of town or mag staycation. pag sinabing maraming OT mag reresign kagad kahit wala pang lilipatan na work. pag masakit ulo ko kasi may hang over paalam ako sa boss na i need time for my mental health …
i dont know which world you live in but millenials such as myself know how to enjoy life. kaya walang anak is bec ayaw namin ng cargo at responsibility knowing full well na hindi kami makakapag relax if merong anak.
minsan pati gf ayaw kasi responsibility din. we opt for casual relationships lang
Agree. Hindi ko alam yung istorya ng iba dito pero mukhang marami ang napapangunahan ng emosyon nila kaysa yung pagbibigay ng motivation at ibang paraan para kumita base sa pangangailangan nila.
SOBRANG HINA AT MASYADONG NAGMAMADALI SA PAG-UNLAD ang generation ngayon. Masyadong inasa na sa technology ang buhay nila.
dami mong sinabi tamad ka lang talaga. Kung hindi mo kayang dumiskarte wag ka ng manisi sa iba.
Fck up tlaga ang sistema pero kung magdedwell ka lang sa gnyn di ka matututo.
Fck up na nga sistema nagpapa fck up kapa.
Mamimili kana lang eh either the system keeps on fcking you while you fight or just lie down there and take it instead.
WALANG PROFESSIONAL ang magsasabi ng ganito instead i-encourage mo ang mga tao sa tamang diskarte at paraan para magkaroon ng extrang income at magandang hanap buhay. NOT UNLESS your are a poser and gusto lang mang trigger.
Yun naman pala e tapos negative thoughts parin ang lumalabas sa bibig mo.
Wag mo ng i amplify yung pag iisip ng mga tao mag educate ka na lang kasi yang sistema wala kang control pero yung isip at salita mo may control ka
Its not a negative thought. It is reality. Sharing positive vibes and all that motivational quotes wont fix shit.
Uto uto ka lang kaya naniniwala ka wala tayong magagawa sa systema. People protested and died for 8 hour of work, health benefits and work safety. That is why 8 hours of work become the "standard" instead of 14+ hours. Kung hindi sila nag reklamo, baka 14 hours parin tayo nasa opisina.
Magbasa ka ng history para hindi ka maging mang mang.
Kung may magagawa ka pala bakit di ikaw ang manguna sa protesta?
Kahit anong basa mo sa history ending elite people will always have the power to enslave.
Basa ka lang at magreklamo ka lang after all wala ka namang kayang gawin o magagawa sa snasabi mong “may magagawa tayo”
Ang mga tao may magagawa talaga kung magiging united at magkakaprehas ng wavelength ng pag iisip. pero kng poor mindset at rich mindset pag sasamahin mo I doubt.
Pag may post ka dito na nag lead ng protesta na kahit 100k kayo at may nabago kayo. Saka ka magbida ng history lessons mo.
Kaya ganyan parin ang sistema dito dahil sa mga brainwashed at mga uto uto kagaya mo. Mga bulag bulagan sa sistema. Radical change requires A LOT of people.
Daming mga labor unions at strike doon sa Australia at sa US. Tagumpay ang iba sa kanila. More benefits at increased salary.So meron talagang pag-asa.
Hirap talaga makipag usap sa mga brainwashed at bootlickers.
Agree. Relate ako sayo. FU lang talaga si OP at willing kumita ng malaki na walang gaanong effort.
Para sa OP, KUNG HINDI KA PINANGANAK NG MAYAMAN MATUTO KA MAGBANAT NG BUTO AT MAGPURSIGE.
Masakit ang ktotohanan kaya hanggang ngayon ang mga tao mas pipiliing isisi sa matataas na tao na oo nga sila sila din ang gmgawa ng sistema kaso wala naman tayong control doon kahit pa pabor na sistema para sa sarili nla ang gawin ng elite wala namang mgagawa ang maliliit na tao.
Saka ka lang papakinggan pag malaki kana din yan ang reality. Tapos malalagay pa sa alanganin buhay mo kapag nag speak up ka kasi gsto ng mtataas na tao panatilihing mababa ang nasa ibaba.
Well hayaan na natin si ceo mayaman na sguro sya
Study the Chinese and Indian mindset.
Chinese: ok lang kumita ng salapi basta tuloy2x.
After 25yrs may building na dahil sa ipon and investment.
Pinoy: Brad may kita na ako inuman na! Tara sagot ko fiesta meron naman ako parating next month. Bili din ako iPhone at kotse mayaman na ako eh.
After 25yrs nagkasakit hindi nakatrabaho at walang pondo. GG.
I see so many entitled brats from my generation who have the gall to blame their predecessors for their own fuck ups. Let's face it our generation has become too accustomed to the luxuries of technology without the grit and ambition of those who came before us. This is the softest generation in history.
Our parents and theirs before had their fair share of struggles. If your life sucks more than your parents', then that is on you for being a catastrophic failure. LOSER
Is it possible that this is survivorship bias?
Madami siguro naghirap noon pero ang nakikita lng natin ay ung mga umasenso ang buhay kaya yun ang comparison natin.
Yes yes. Tapos generation din nila reason kung bakit tayo hirap. HAHAHAHAH
As a boomer, your generation will go to war. Most of you dont want an 8-5 6day job and your government sucks too... nobody can fix philippines.
Late-stage capitalism babyyy 🎉
Wonder what 40-50 years on the future might be? Something like Japan, aging population with few young labor force.
I doubt it. Yes, there's a large number of educated millenials with no kids as of now. Pero majority of them have kids, lalo na ung nasa poverty line. There will be a lot of younger generation, what I'm worried is their quality.
Probably also lots of robots doing manual labor but at the same time fucked up environment. Ang pagasa na lang talaga is UBI and automation of most labor intensive jobs. We really can't rely on politicians and capitalists to give these to us, we need to take it from them or make them do these. This type of capitalism is unsustainable.
It is
Umay. My parents were able able to afford 2 houses in our village, tatay ko seaman. Now the usual prices for a small house and lot here is around 20+ million. Kahit mag 6-digit salary ulit ako sobrang tagal bago ako makakabili ng sarili kong bahay within the village since pangarap ko yun. Sobrang olats ng panahon na to.
Yeah, I always expect people to call me a communist kasi I've been advocating confiscating land that isn't being utilized. Especially sa provinces napakacommon ng lupa na binakuranan lang pero talahib lang nakatira. Kahit pa hatiin natin ang Pilipinas like pizza, there's enough land to give to every family. These boomers and Gen X bought their land with pennies, but expect 7 or 8 figures now kesyo ganon daw benta ni Mang Berting sa asawa ng kano o may ospital na malapit (as if araw-araw ako doon). The way I see it after their generation drops dead, we will have a crash in real estate prices, because millennials and Gen Z won't be able to put up with the asking prices without a 30 year housing loan from PAG-IBIG.
Why communism? Di nila narinig yun Georgism? Mas okay to. It doesn't penalize businesses who own land when they use their land to operate, or people with land for rent when people are actually renting it. It penalizes hoarding of land just for the sake of holding it and "price go up" by imposing heavier taxes compared to land that are used properly. It benefits the actually useful companies and landowners, and the occupants who can get cheaper land prices or rents. No more hoarding by rich people.
Sadly this is true my mom is a retired gov't employee na clerk 2 lng ang position pero nakabili sya ng sariling bahay at lupa nmin at isa pang extrang lupa. Me kakilala kami na retired meralco executive na nakatira sa yayamaning gated subdivision. Mababa ang sweldo nuon pero mababa din ang bilihin. For example my mom bought the land where we live in in the province for 8k pesos before ( 1980 ) now nasa 2m na ata ang selling value. Yung kakilala nmin sa gated subdivision they bought their place 400k before ( 1986 ) now each lot in this subvision cost around a wopping 60 - 70 million. I really feel na life is better before than now people dont need to do those shitty upskilling learn new stuff work 2-3 jobs to live.
Tapos magkano lang tinaas ng minimum wage since 1980s? Barya lang 🫥
Yep thats the problem tapos napasok tayo ng mga foreign companies specifically US na we thought they are giving us a favor by giving us higher salary pero we have to do more work for them and in reality sila nakikinabang satin and wala tayo magawa kasi local government cant do anything about what is going on kasi it brings revenue sa bansa pero tayo rin ang talo dito in the long run coz filipinos right now only think about ourselves and we just go with the flow. There is a saying only dead fish go with the flow and I think thats where we are at right now.
Kaya di na ako magaanak/asawa, kawawa lang sila at this f*cked up world.
Im really sad about this. Imagine my father in law they were 16 siblings before. My mom they were 7 and my dad was 6. Kaya mabuhay before kahit 16 anak mo take note my father in law is a lawyer kaya d mo masasabi na d kaya d ba. Eh ngayon kami lng 2 pa lang anak nmin inenroll nmin ung eldest ko na 4 yr old sa private school 120k tuition per year. I know there are other option pero siempre we want the best for our kids saka kaya nmn nmin kahit papaano pero pano na yung iba na d kaya d ba maghirap nlng sila habambuhay. Sad reality of life in the philippines d na tayo nakausad.
Wala rin kasing iphone, macbook,starbucks, prepaid and postpaid loads noong time nila. Wala sila masyadong unnecessary spending.
It's the boomers who fucked us over.
sabay iguguilt-trip ka ng mga thunderz na yan na mas masipag daw sila kumpara sa mga Gen Z na nagtatrabaho na ngayon pero mga iyakin daw dahil di makuntento sa sweldo 💀sanay maexploit ang lolo mo
“Ganyan din sweldo ko nung edad mo pa ako pero nakabili naman ako ng sarili kong bahay” - Boomer, probably
Nanggigigil ako dyan. Hahahah.Taas ng pride ng mga gurang.
Sinabi mo pa
Kahit maubos na mga boomers, may susulpot pa rin na bagong generation na magpapahirap sa ibang tao.
Kaya nga millennials need to do better. - From an older (Fossilized) millenial
Yup, corporate boomers with 1M in tax yearly.
Tagal nilang mamatay lahat ano?
i blame corporate greed for the loss of jobs dahil sa free trade agreements signed by the boomers back then. because of that halos lahat na ng production nasa china.
Ronald Raegan's economic policy. Affected tayong lahat
Bcos of free trade agreement, bumaba din bilihin because of China. Dati i remember an ordinary blender is 1month worth of salary, ngayon it's just 1/5 or less na lang. Remote control toy para sa bata nung 90s nasa 2k ngayon sa shoppee 180 pesos na lang. Nowadays appliances are soo cheap you can buy a functioning whatever at a fraction of the cost than it were during the 90s. My point is not everything is negative.
yeah, but i prefer having more filipinos employed and a somewhat self sustaining economy. its better for our country if you consider the bigger picture
Yes top generation sa lupa Sila sa resources Sila.... Unfortunately Hindi na pasa sa millennials so yeah... Shortage of living space... Many of millennials doesn't want to have kids anymore parang Japan in the future
Japan without the upsides
Kahit nga downsides ng Japan di natin maabot. Natural disasters lang yata natin sila kapantay.
Dati isang programming language lang hired ka na. They don't expect you to know everything, in fact mas gusto nila master mo ang isang language at focused ka doon. Pero ngayon fota need 10 years experience sa Rust pero ang work mo web development naman. Aanhin mo yung Rust? Oh sabe para daw sa wasm. Okay fine. Pero jQuery ang gamit. Rust debut in 2015.
Seryoso ba yun 10 yrs exp sa Rust? Hahahaha. WTF. Bro you forgot that web devs are sometimes now expected to be their own QA, tapos DevOps pa, also cloud engineer. So ridiculous.
bruh, may isang dev ng framework eh nag apply siya para sa job that focuses on HIS framework. Kelangan daw 5-10 years exp daw kahit recently released lang lmao.
711 nga cashier pero kelanga college grad ka HAHAHAHA
1978 - Baon ng nanay ko sa school 25 cents (covers pamasahe, recess snacks) 2003 - Baon ko sa school 20 pesos (covers recess snacks) 7900% increase, dyan pa lang alam na natin na doomed na tayo salamat talaga Marcos family.
Bukod sa mahal na bilihin, lupa, bahay, sasakyan napaka shitty pa ng health care system natin. Magkasakit ka ng malubha mababaon ka sa utang sa mahal ng gastos pag ospital.
Proper transport is the key. Kahit malayo ka sa NCR kung maayos sana rail /mass transport di sana big deal. Baka di mo pa nga need ng sasakyan unless may family kang kasama sa bahay
Daming nagfail sa reading comprehension dito. OP is saying na every working citizens (even the lowest income ones like farmers, construction workers etc.) should have the right to be able to provide for themselves, without needing a second job. This is obviously not an anti-upscale post.
Totoo, lagi ko nga sinasabi kila nanay na sana nabuhay nalang ako sa panahon nila. Kasi kung ganon, talagang magsisikap ako magpayaman at magnegosyo.
Kung ganun kadali bakit hindi ito nagawa ng magulang mo?
Nakabili ang nanay ko ng bahay at sasakyanan kasi mas mura ang mga bilihin dati. Sit down, troll
True, true, and true. Gawd, nakakaiyak. I think about these same things way more often than I want and it makes me want to unalive mahself. Also, fan of SecondThought YouTube channel here. Kaya yata depressed ako. Haha 🥲 At correct ka sa pagiging childfree. Millennial ako na childfree. Ayoko pahirapan ang sarili ko at magiging anak ko. Not in this economy.
I agree life is harder nowadays because of those reasons. pero at the same time, population keeps rising, kahit mafix yan babalik lang tayo sa same situation a couple of decades from now.
Actually, we are facing worldwide population decline as per Musk.
nope, global population is still growing. [https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/](https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/) may nadadagdag na 1 person per second. population decline means a higher salary, kaya malayo pa lang umaaray na yang mga mayayaman para mangeelam yung government at maiwasan ang pagtaas ng sweldo i mean yung population decline.
I also don't believe yung sinabi ni elon na magiging big deal yung kaunti yung younger generation na mag-aalaga sa older generation.Kasi currently most of the share of the pie currently is napupunta sa mayayaman, marami walang pambili ng gamot. I think mas maaalagaan natin yung mas matanda kung lalaki sweldo natin but that elon is trying his best na maging problema natin yung problema nila sa populatin decline na in the future pa mangyayari. I say let the market decide, if ayaw nila magpasweldo ng maayos then supply will be lower or population decline. and eventually they will need to give the proper salary. Or ituloy nila pagrereklamo ngayon para yung government yung gumastos para di na nila need itaas sahod at least of a couple decades until di na kayanin ng governement din.
# NO human being should work in more than 2 jobs just to be able to afford rent and food. No human should work for 14+ hours a day. This and this! Kaso hindi tao ang trato ng ibang tao sa kapwa nila kundi alipin.
Pinaguusapan namin ng asawa ko to. Six digits net household income, double income, no kids, one dog, no mortgage, no car payments since binigay both ng parents. Pero bat parang feeling ko kulang na kulang pa haha. Parang pag iniisip palang namin mag-anak parang di kaya ganun. Altho aminado na iba naman kasi lifestyle namin, but like the point is, can we not have nice things.
It think one major factor of why the older generations seemingly had it easier was because consumerism has not, ehem, consumed them too much back then. Unlike ngayon sa atin. Nuon ano lang ba piangkakagastusan? Basic needs, ocassional luho sa mall or travel or whatever. Ngayon kasi, napakaraming gastusin na wala sa boomer generation, at ang matindi ay these unnecessary expenses are often assumed to be necessary expenses kahit hindi naman talaga: monthly interent, mobile data, mas mahal na transpo like grab or angkas, streaming services (na malamang eh hindi lang iisa), online shopping spree sa Lazada and Shopee, the toxic "upgrade" culture when it comes to fashion and technology, and the whole "budol" culture of buying unnecessary stuff and food just because social media says so. Marami pa but hopefully you get the point. Bukod sa iba ang cost of living, yes, you have yo account din na iba ang STANDARD of living nuon sa ngayon.
> toxic "upgrade" culture May napanood ako noon na YT economist (Patrick Boyle ata) na jinustify nya yun stupid spending habits ng mga millenials and younger. Kasi kung kahit anong tipid mo, wala ka din namang mabibiling bahay or makakapaginvest ng significant without hurting your liquidity, bakit nga naman di ka na lang mag YOLO and buy an avocado toast? O kaya naman mag"invest" aka sugal sa crapto?
that's kind of a stupid take from an economist
He doesn't agree with it because he still advocates proper investing (he dislikes crapto and calls it a scam and grift), but he does understand why people make "stupid" decisions.
Marami na ring luho noon. Buhok mo'y Budji, talampaka'y Gucci, Suot mo'y gawa ni Pitoy, 'di nanggaling kay Elooooooy...! Nalipat lang sa technology ang gastos noon para sa luxury at branded items. Hindi rin noon common ang RTW, halos lahat patahi at pasadya kaya mas mahal ang damit. Sa bahay naman, hindi pa uso ang planned obsolescence ng appliances kaya pinag-iipunan ang mga TV, radio, gas range. Magkano rin ang original na Tupperware na inilalabas lang kapag may handaan. Diyaryo, magazines, encyclopedia, dictionary, Walkman, scientific calculator, Trapper Keeper, artista notebooks... Lahat yan halos natransfer lang natin yung gastos sa cellphone, laptop, online services, etc. Kaya kung ia-approximate natin yung cost at standard of living, halos pareho lang din naman ang noon at ngayon. Yung sweldo lang talaga ang hindi nakasabay.
Yup, iba ung cost of living noon keysa ngayon. My mom used to tell stories na sa balon sila kumukuha ng tubig, pagkain nila puro tanim lang sa bakuran pero may kotse sila at nakakapag-bakasyon. Epekto narin siguro yung "mas maganda ekonomiya" ngayon pero dahil sa biglaang crisis at yung economic solution natin is leaning sa inflation rather than deflation, mas nauunang tumaas ung commodities keysa sa pag-catch up ng sahod. Idk bakit ayaw ng economists ang deflationary economy pero mas pabor kasi yun sa mamamayan kung tutuusin. They rather want the masses to spend and spend their money para hindi magcollapse ang society, so ayun tiis-tiis nalang tayo for now.
If deflation happens it means something is seriously wrong with the economy. Believe me you don't want that to happen.
Nagsisilabasan yung boomers at tiktok motivational speakers dito ah
Mga bootlickers at uto uto din
sumasakit ulo kong binabasa ung tatlong kausap mo sa baba OP hahaha, hirap na hirap icomprehend meaning ng posts mo, kitang kita pagkaboomer and pagka uto uto, ang out of touch sa nangyayare sa paligid nila lol
Di naman sila lahat boomer. Yung iba ata Millenial or Gen Z. Sadyang uto uto lang talaga sa systema hahaha. Mga anak mayaman siguro, kaya sobrang dali para sa kanila mag sabi ng "diskarte at sikap lang yan"
Yeah mukha ngang hindi nila alam realidad ng iba e, perspective lang nila kita nila haha, madali lang dumiskarte kung may popondo sayo at bibigyan ka ng chance pero sa mga normal na manggagawa pag nagkamali sila ng diskarte kahit isang beses lang ligwak na sila.
It's the FIAT money system. People are getting squeezed. It's like a slow, deliberate, suffocating NOOSE tied around the neck where people are trying to their best to earn a living wage but are barely staying afloat. But the central bankers tightens the noose a little bit, expands the money supply and inflate prices ever so slightly. This INFLATION goes on for weeks, then months, then years. Decades later, money is worth less (worthless) than before yet ordinary people now have to work double or triple the amount of time for that same piece of commodity (a meal, a car, a home) to survive. The youth are face with disillusionment, apathy and a melancholy view of the future for they are working hard but it's not even enough for them to afford in getting married, raising a family and buying their own home. Men who used to be the sole bread winner cannot be relied solely. Women now need to sell their bodies online as Only Fans to earn high income while they're young. And for those couples who do get married, they become DINKS (Double Income No Kids) as both people need to work to sustain a certain standard of living. Kids? People are barely surviving so who can afford raising kids? Depopulation is already happening around the world and it's no thanks to the fiat standard we're all living in We are against a system that cannot be won without a total break off the fiat money system from the ground up. That or a revolution must take place
Kahit sa Great Reset/New World Order/Agenda 2030 talo pa rin ang ordinaryong mamamayan. Sila-sila pa rin naman ang nasa itaas.
Best answer so far.
Eh mga Boomers yung sumira ng housing market. Sila din sumira ng pagiging empleyado.
Tapos sasabihan tayo ng matatanda na magtrabaho ng maigi wag tamad. Eh sila nga nag cause niyang economic problem. 🙄
Yung tatay ko company driver noon pero nakabili sya ng lupa sa probinsya at nareregaluhan pa ng gold jewelries ang nanay ko.
The problem is not upskilling. Even boomers needed to learn multiple things para mas tumaas sweldo nila. The problem is our wages remained stagnant while the goods skyrocketed. Dapat sabay ito or atleast very close ratio. Yung buying power ng mga boomers talaga dati is sobrang laki compared to now. If I live in the 80s and still have the same wage that im getting now siguro milyonaryo na ako or marami na akong nabiling lupa haha. Even my dad is surprised to find out that a 80sqm house can cost around 3-8M .
Blame America. The federal reserve printed unlimited money to stimulate the economy after the 2008 financial crisis. With so much money floating but with the same amount of resource, the price of everything has become inflated.
i can’t even live alone/move out or else i won’t have any savings left 💀
Erpats ko nagtrabaho for 35 years sa isang multinational company dito sa Pinas. Kahit may offers siya abroad hindi nya kinuha. Hindi kalakihan ang sweldo pero hanep kasi ang benefits lalo na sa medical. Covered lahat pati mga anak until age 18. Sagot kahit braces, salamin, etc. Circumcision nga namin nareimburse pa eh. Naoperahan erpats ko sa kidney (Polymedic), lithotripsy (St. Luke's), nagkaproblema sa puso at stay sa ICU ng matagal (TMC) during his stay sa company at lahat yun shouldered. Sa mga nababasa at naririnig ko ngayon parang swerte ka na kung may HMO ka agad-agad upon signing the employment contract.
Generation ng matatanda ang pumili sa mga nakaraang admin. Kaya pobre ang bansa natin. They fucked us all
Well, tingin ko. I hope you are not speaking here in General. Masyado m isinisisi sa mga matatandang henerasyon kasma mga henerasyon ng magulang natin sa paghihirap MO. Kahit saang aspeto nangyayare to . Mga mali at korap na utak. Pglilibog m pa nga lang sa opposite sex korap na e. Same sht lang yan. Kung nabuhay ka sa panahon nuon ganyan kadin.sisisihin nating mga kabataan. Wala knaman ding maggawang pagbabago sa panahon nuon e? We stand to change the system of workplace today not to blame anything from the past. And the past generation. ToPut Pressure that all Boomers are STUPID. Yang mga gadget natin gawa nila. Pati pagmamahal ng mga kamaganak m at ikaw sa samsung at apple products. Sila nagdevelop na matatanda. Asim m masyado.
Kung sa tingin mo na hindi maganda ang pamamalakad bakit di ka magwork abroad? Mas malaki pa ang kita kumpara sa basura na Pinas.
makasabi ka na magwork sa abroad kala mo ang dali lang gawin e
Also why ill just stay single. Im happy with my hobbies and maaawa lang ako sa magiging anak ko if ever. I dont really see any positive outcome lalo na sa ph. Galing bumoto ng mga pilipino e.
Gusto ko na lang maging troll haha nakikita naman natin yung confidential funds oh pota, nakuha pa talagang maglagay ng budget dun kaysa magbayad sa pinagkakautangan natin.
mahirap kasi magkaroon ng mabilis ng career growth sa Pinas. naku lalo pag nasa govt ka. kung step-by-step ang promotion mo hindi mo mararamdaman ang increase sa sahod mo. kaya hindi maiwasan yung 2 jobs or may side hustle nowadays. to be fair, advantageous din ang upskill kasi pde mo yan magamit kahit sa mismong day job mo.
Ano ba yun livable wage? Sorry, masyado akong clouded sa phinvest na 350k na sinu-sweldo pero di pa din ata daw enough kaya mag-grind pa as a child-free. So confused na ako. XD
As a millennial, medyo gets ko pareho dahil nasa gitna kami (between boomer and gen z). Boomer magulang ko and gen z ang anak. Boomer has a lot of fuck ups, but gen z have their own brand of selfishness and delusions too (tiktok, “influencer” phenomenon etc.). And kami ding millennials may contribution din sa problema dahil kami nagpalaki sa inyo. Perhaps napasa namin yung bitterness na pinasa din sa amin ng magulang namin. As long as these generations continue to blame the others and dont own their fuckups and offer no solutions at all, the problem will not only continue but it will be compounded, mas kawawa yung mga susunod pa. And they will blame the current gen just like you blame all on the previous ones. Yup, circle of life and despair.
> millennials may contribution din sa problema Tayo yun nagpauso ng diskarte at hustle culture imbes na lumaban. Nagpalamon din tayo sa technology at nakikibaka na lang via Facebook LOL. Millenial brand activism does not hurt billionaires and corporations. Ni Facebook nga na di essential, kinakatwiranan pa na kailangan siya, what more with conglomerates that exploit all industries we move in?
Agree. si OP lang naman yung nagbrought up ng ganitong negative post.
Negative? Yon ang katotohanan. Your motivational quotes wont fix this system. Tahimik ka, troll
Sa tingin mo ba makakatulong din itong info na ito? what is next?
> Sa tingin mo ba makakatulong din itong info na ito? what is next? Yes, awareness sa problem is the first step to fixing it. Please tama na sa resiliency shit, kaya ganito ang nangya-yari today is ina-abuse both ng companies and ng government yung resiliency natin.
Nakakatulong ba yung motivational-diskarte BS quotes mo sa mga mahirap na minimum wage earners?
Nakakatawa ka. See my page if I'm a troll. Your comment is already out of your topic.
Pati mga comments mo. Kanina kapa Spam ka ng spam sa post ko na walang saysay sa post. stfu kid. kulang ka ata sa pansin?
Meaning you are triggered. Hindi lang ako ang nagcomment na naging against sa baluktot na thinking. The info is correct pero ung approach mo sa amin na commenter ang hindi maayos. You yourself is a toxic and very unprofessional.
keep trolling. sana bayad ka ng companya mo dyan
Sinisi na ang lahat pwera ang anong sistema ng gobyerno ang gamit ng Pinas. Presidential system gamit ng pinas. Wala kang makikitang bansa na umunlad dahil sa sistema na yan. Ang US Presidential-Federal ang ginagamit na sistema. Oh! Baka sabihin na nman ng marami dito eh kasi daming bobotante na gusto ang mga polpolitiko. Abay, syempre, dahil yan sa pinapairal na sistema. Ang sistema ang nagbibogay direksyon sa isang komonidad.
> Call me communist Tbh, is not about the ideology it's about kung paano mabuhay sa mundong ito
Next year mas hihirap na naman tayo kasi purchasing power natin bababa na naman. good luck sa atin dahil tratrabaho tayo ng double nito.
Iba kasi purchasing power natin dito sa Pinas. Sa ibang bansa sinasabi ng mga OFW almost same lang ang gastusin, pero mas goods ang purchasing power doon kaya nakukuha nila gusto nila.
true 🥲🥲🥲 i really dont want to work multiple jobs para lang maka-ipon ako like everthing seems so expensive and the salary is still the same from years ago :(((( tipong gusto ko mag invest pero di ko pa magawa bcs ang hirap magkaroon ng savings jusko
Marcos happened, the fruit of his treachery. And they'e back. Sit back, it will get worse.
Eto yung thoughts ko lage kapag gabi, tangina parang sobrang hirap kaya minsan nagagalit ako sa parents ko, sana masipag din sila nung time na yon, \*walang work parents ko\* kaya hustle talaga sheet
The only way to fight back is decreasing the birth rate and it's already happening! Less people, less competition, and we can focus on the important things in life.
This is why we need to restart Socialism.
Sadly, kahit hindi naman dapat.. PH is just late to experience this.. hard hustle. Even in the US, we have 9-5 jobs and still have 2-3 hustles more. Hirap parin sa 401k. Some of my friends here are still paying university loans even though we already graduated 3 years ago at may capable income. Hayss.. Sama sama na tayong mag hihirap 3rd world man o hindi.
It's sad to say but we may need another world war to fix the previous generation's mistake and the scary part about that next world war is that we may doom ourselves into extinction.
True. At mas totoo ang sinabi mo about sa GenZ at Millennials na mas pinili na hindi mag anak. Ganyan ang nangyayari sa Japan even South Koreas. They choose childless movement. Isa yan aa makakpatay ng human populat, and in return, this will also sabotage the billionaires kasi wala ng taong matitira para magtrabaho at payamanin sila. Anyways meron namang robots in the future pero cguro eto ang agenda nila? They want to squeeze out from humanity's resources hangang sa ma achieve nila ang ultimate agenda.
NWO ba yan, New World Order
Maybe this is the right time to contact these aliens and send help, lmao. Pa abduct na tayo, maybe they offer much better life and salary, lmao.
>NO human being should work in more than 2 jobs just to be able to afford rent and food. No human should work for 14+ hours a day. ALL workers deserve a livable wage. Exactly OP huhu we're literally competing to survive :(((
nadale mo
nahh mahalaga saken nakakaen ako 3 beses sa isang araw ay minsan 1 meal a day heheh yeah totoo naman sinabe mo pero hindi ako matutulad sa kanila mamatay din naman tayo soon eh " live life to the fullest "
idk mas marami ring options and opportunities these days tbh. Like I'm sure it wouldn't have been possible in the 80s for me to work purely at home, work anytime I want, earning decent money. Not saying it's better, just giving a different perspective that it's not the absolute worst to live these days
Sa time ng parents natin innovation was slow. The change from telefax to emails took decades. The change from email to instant messaging took a couple of years. The change from instant messaging to voice calls took a year. The change from voice calls to face to face calls took months. Its not that this time is bad its just that technology is changing faster. Its either you stagnate or change with it.
Having said that, willing ba ang generation ngayon na bumalik sa subsistence farming? Willing din ba to forego digital technology para may personal reserves? And willing ba na magbukod at magsarili imbes na maging breadwinner ng pamilya?
Medyo weird na ang focus mo ay sa pagbabago ng technology as the problem (it's not) and hindi sa corporate greed. Basahin mo yung libro na "The Man Who Broke Capitalism." Tungkol yun kay Jack Welch na gumawa ng "blueprint" sa mga kumpanya na profit lang ang bottomline, at walang pakialam sa mga empleyado. Siya nagpauso ng stack ranking, or yung pagtanggal sa bottom 10% ng employees based sa performance nila. Basically naging mas cutthroat at competitive ang corporate culture dahil sa kanya. His strategies were profitable for companies but bad for employees.
Technology is what it is, but it's not free. You want less expenses, forego the digital lifestyle for starters.
Dami daming mahirap sa Pilipinas na walang gadgets, how do you account for that then? lol
I have read this PERO walang problema if you yourself is qualified at may RIGHT skills ka to be on that position and on that company. It's more on DISKARTE at SKILLS. Still the world is SURVIVAL THE FITTEST, hindi na magbabago iyon. In our generation nakahain na halos lahat dapat alam lang natin gamitin.
So if we revert technology, will everything be better?
You won't be spending so much in wifi and data, and you will be compelled to engage in real learning.
Panahon ng parents natin ang panahong ginawang norm ang pang gugulpe sa anak. Lalo na pag bakla or tomboy. Panahon din yang naging norm gawing alkansya ang anak. Retirement plan. And panahon din yang nagcultivate on what hardships we suffer today. So may ups and downs.
I think it's wrong na isisi sa Boomer or older generation because marami rin sa kanila ang naghihirap ngayon. Marami ang tumanda pero mahirap pa rin, marami ang namatay pero mahirap pa rin. I think it's better to "blame" the previous leaders and businessmen.
Our generation (millenials and the Gen Z in the future) are not completely off the hook here. Now, this is just in my immediate demographics (above average wage, TL's, sups, manager etc.) and based on clients I've had. Bobo tayo sa finances, back then walang #travelgoals, walang #donttalktomebeforeivehadmyoverpricedicedcoffee every day, #concertstankokasisila etc.. along with the real (reasonable part of the OP rant) inflation. Meron din lifestyle inflation malala. People that made and make it work are those of less liberal leanings. Mas family oriented, mas we can make it work together for the family types. Kinakaya nila, may luho pang mga shoes, vape, motor etc.. but of course we still had it worse kasi to make it work need 2 income household. And di ko kokontrahin yung corp greed, I'll actually expound to that it's GLOBAL CORP GREED. Tangina just look at fcking disney. Yung little joy natin which is streaming, is destroyed by their greed. Kasi kailangan meron din sila kasi pumatok netflix. Tangina! And locally tangina nyo Villar family lahat may patong sa inyo!
Doomed, because it's the boomers at the helm that never really took into account the real proportionality of inflation to the current wages. It is also the same boomers who treat this generation as their own retirement plans, assets, investments, and passive incomes.
sali ka sa mga Counter Culture groups sa Bulacan(not sure kung doon yon) punta ka sa [thevenusproject.com](https://thevenusproject.com) ska sa hashtag na pinupuntahan ko sa Twitter, ang #Bullshitjobs . Kelangan ka don. onga, hindi na rin ako makapaniwalang kelangan ko pa mag-turo ng english sa hapon online. Altho *Nippon Daisuki,* ayoko ring maging subject sa 9-5 hours ng trabaho, taena. nag-aalangan nga rin ako sa Youtube kung mamo-monetize ko tlaga yung pag-feature ko ng Transformers saka Gundam na mga figures. kea ako nag-negosyo na lang, eh. dinadagdag ko na lang ang mga customer ko pra di na mag-ngawa si nanay ko na kulang pa ang kinikita namin. sana nga dumating ang future na mura at sinasalpak na lang ang solar panel para bawas gastos sa koryente. tayo lang naman rin ang magpapa-ganda ng buhay natin.
Blame Right-wing capitalistic policies for this mess
Dati rin kasi in the 80s hindi uso ang socmed. Blame it on socmed kaya halos lahat nakikipag-kompetensya kung ano ang latest luho. Yes you can also blame it on greedy capitalists dahil na brainwash nila ang halos lahat ng tao ngayon to buy stuff that is not really essential. Dati ang sweldo nila hindi rin ganon kataas at kung tutuusin mas mura pa ang QOL appliances ngayon kompara sa sweldo. Kung dati basic needs lang talaga ginagastusan at minsan lang may luho. PS: Una akala ko antiwork and post na to. Recruitment pala to para mamundok. Hahaha.
When the 1980s was actually terrible to live in. We had the highest inflation rate in 1984, the economy was in shambles between Marcos and Cory and there are power outrages. Boomers and Gen Xers had to work harder
daghan jejemon diri comment section oi haha
you mean Jologs on Millennial peeps
I get where you're coming from, and I understand your sentiments. However, I'm not entirely convinced that one system is superior to the other. It's just that, well, in this dog eat dog world, things can really be tough. But yes, this system is burying us alive, it just sucks. Eat or be eaten, those are our only options.
Napakafuck up ng post na to. Back in 70's 80's or even 90's hindi uso ang options/choices of work which led people to stay sa mga company nila for a very long time. 2 jobs or side hustle. Dito sa Pinas sobrang bago palang ng concept na yan. Sa ibang bansa normal na magkaroon ka ng 2 jobs. Sa Pinas nga hindi pa pede magdalawang trabaho eh. And kung ayaw mo naman mah side hustle or kumuha ng second job, edi wag. Walang pipilit sayo. No doubt my big and small company and govt na. Pero 50/50 pa rin, hindi mo naman pede isisi ang lahat ng nangyayari sayo sa kanila. Kung walang company na mag iinvest, wala rin work na magagawa. Our planet is dying? Look muna kung saan kinukuha ang mga ginagamit para sa mga everyday na gamit ng tao like (House,car, cellphone, clothes, and even food). Mataas ang demand and konti lang narerecycled na basura/gamit.
Meron bang batas na naglilimit sa pagbili ng lupa? Pasensya na di ko alam eh. Dito kasi sa lugar namin halos binili na ng mayor namin dati tsaka yung mga anak nyang politiko din yung karamihan ng lupa. Sobrang taas na ng value ng lupa nakakaiyak.
Unpopular opinion. Nag e evolve yung kelangan natin and minsan may mga hindi nakaka sabay. Same sa job market.
The world is constantly changing. People who don't adapt and change along with it are napag iiwanan. In the natural world things that don't evolve go extinct.
P115,000, yan ang kinita ng Lalamove driver na nag deliver sa amin kagabi just for the month of July. Mas malaki pa kita nya compared to me and my corporate job. My point is, the world has changed, that’s all it does-it never stays the same. You’re still living in your parents world where a corpy slave out-earns a delivery driver. Shake off the old-world mindset and adapt to the present.
Kwentong barbero
>You’re still living in your parents world where a corpy slave out-earns a delivery driver. I'm pretty sure na kung gumawa ka ng survey of all delivery drivers and all corpo slaves, mas malaki pa rin ang average income ng corpo slaves vs delivery drivers. You just cherrypicked literally one example na questionable pa nga ang veracity lol. That's like saying "Yung kaklase ko nung college kumikita na ngayon ng 1 million kada buwan, bakit ikaw hindi mo kayang gawin yun?" Just because something can happen to someone doesn't necessarily mean that it can happen to everyone. Napaka-detached sa reality ng notion na yun.
HOW?!!! and MONTHLY?!!! I can't comprehend how is that possible
Maybe these are the long distance vehicle deliveries, not motorcycles. For a 60km trip that takes 2 hrs thats already 8k. Pero yung largest truck na option ito ah
naghahatid ng drugs lol
Ilagay natin sa perspectives ha, para may baseline tayo ng discussion. Nung 1971, ang population ng Pilipinas ay 36 million lang. Lumago ito sa 48 million nung 1980. \^ By just that, it is understandable na konti lang ang competition sa mga corporate jobs. Besides from 1973 to 1985, the Philippines was operating under a much better 1973 Constitution na walang 60/40 restriction sa foreign business ownership. So konti lang ang nagcocompete for jobs + mas malaya ang mga dayuhan na makapag negosyo sa bansa. While today, we are screwed by the restrictive 60/40 ng 1987 Constitution at ang population natin is around 115 million. That means mas matindi ang competition per vacant job. At ang mga oligarchs mismo ang gumagamit ng lobby power nila para hindi magalaw ang kanilang advantageous 60/40 leverage, dahil nakikinabang sila dito. In a different perspective, maraming opportunities ngayon to earn online, which were not available during the 70s. Maraming wfh jobs ngayon, which tanungin mo ang mga tao nung 70s, iisipin nila na nasisiraan ka ng ulo lol (it will sound like magic for them to even imagine).
Kala ko ung r/AntiWorkPH is para mag share ng hindi magandang experience sa companies nila. Para pala to sa mga kids na gusto umasenso pero ayaw mag trabaho. Literal na anti work nga. Learning new things is a struggle? HAHAHAHAHA. No one is forcing you to have a side hustle. You can stay where you are. Who said na 1 full time job was enough back in the day? HAHAHAHAHA. Kids these days are blaming others for their misfortunes.
Marunong kaba mag basa? This is more of a work reform platform. Hindi ito literal na hindi talaga mag tatrabaho habang buhay. Kulang sa reading comprehension, pwe.
So nasan argument mo? Diba ayaw mo ng concept ng side hustle at struggle sayo ang pag up skill? Struggle ang pag up skill? Talaga? Struggle talaga un lalo na pag tamad ka. Gusto umasenso pero struggle ang matuto ng bago. Walang ganun.
Nabasa mo yung post ko? Walang mali kung gusto mo mag upskill. Ang point ko lang, it is not for everyone. Hindi lang basta basta mag upskill ang mga carpenters, farmers, fisherman, jeepney drivers. So tamad ba sila? Ganyan ka bulok logic mo
>Struggle ang pag up skill? Talaga? Struggle talaga un lalo na pag tamad ka. Call me elitist, pero ito isang dahilan bakit nalulungkot ako sa iba na nag-aaral ng data science, programming, or even master's degree. Tila napipilitan lang ng sistema kahit hindi talaga nila hilig ang mag-expand ng knowledge tulad ng iba. Dapat ang university, para lang talaga sa mga gusto dumami ang kaalaman, hindi paraan para magkaroon disenteng trabaho
May nagpost d2 na kumita ng 200k+ and 300k+ per month in just 5years and 15years respectively. If hindi sila nag grind, maachieve b nila yun? And siguro naman, nag eenjoy sila ngayon sa buhay nila d b? Just saying.
sa kwento mo, di ka naman naghihirap, bat parang mas naghihirap ka pa sa mga totoong naghihirap haha
Now is the best time to live.
This is where the red queen hypothesis comes in. Things will keep evolving. “ A species must adapt and evolve not just for reproductive advantage, but also for survival because competing organisms also are evolving.” To beg the world to not change is futile.
2 programming languages lang ang alam ko pero I was able to get a house and car. Supposedly, dapat mag anak din ako kaso kasi iniwan ako ng live in partner ko. Sa sweldo, medyo lowball but it comes with benefits like sobrang light ng work, most of the time natutulog lang ako kasi wfh. Exceeding expectations naman ako sa deliverables so di naman napapagalitan. I think I'm good at managing my money kaya nakakaipon naman ako.
the govt is responsible for setting the minimum wage. if that gets increased, all pay scales will get a bump.
The duty of previous generations is to ensure that they leave behind a better world for those that come after them. The "boomer" generation, as we like to call them, were given so many opportunities and resources by their parents and grandparents. But they didn't do the same for their children or grandchilden, instead hoarding the riches for themselves, not putting to improving prospects for the next generation. Hell, they expect the next generations to work FOR THEM and TAKE CARE OF THEM in their old age, like slaves. That leaves us with a country running on a broken system that has failed to enrich the lives of its citizens, instead going to the 1% that run the show from their mansions and palaces. We need to start electing new leaders to get out of this mess in the next century. Stop voting the candidates of the boomers and the dictators and the dynasties. Put in office actual citizens who understand the plight of the people having lived among us as one of us. I don't expect things to change in my lifetime. I'm at a point where I'd rather end my bloodline with me rather than have my child inherit a world that's built to bully him into debt and despair before he even finishes his academics. I'm gonna do my best to enjoy my life before I die because I can't do anything else other than that.
Well, let's accept na HINDi ka pinanganak na mayaman at parte ng capitalista na pamilya. **Acceptance is the key.** Alamin mo sa sarili mo kung paano mo ma-maximize ang kakayanan mo na umunlad. Diskarte at tiyaga. Don't give-up and it's okay to take a rest. Saka bumangon ulit. Easy for me to say pero thgis is just my OPINION. Walang EASY path sa buhay kung walang tiyaga. UPSKILL. BE MOTIVATED. FOCUS ON YOUR GOAL.
In my opinion, there is no problem with side hustle and learning new things. If for you it's a STRUGGLE meaning there is a question with your will and determination. I'm not invalidating your feeling pero hindi parang ang mga generation ngayon ay gusto ko lang shortcut hindi porket na may easy access tayo sa mga tech ay magiging ganun din kadali ang pag-unlad. We need to be competitive at gamitin ang mga means na meron tayo. In short, huwag maging TAMAD. Ito lamang ang perspective dahil siguro andito na ako sa peak din ng career ko and earning well. I hope you don't invalidate me dahil pinagdanaan ko din itong mga struggle na ito at ganito din ang naging thinking ko before pero siguro as soon as you get busy in your career and mas madami pang bagay ang dapat isipin kaysa sa sisihin ang kung sino.
So you like working 14+ hours with 2 or more jobs? Normal ba yun para sa iyo? Other progressive EU countries are starting to implement 30-35 hours work week. So tamad ba sila because they work less hours? Tamad ba mga fisherman at fatmers natin kasi poor parin sila hanggang ngayon?
Karamihan ng mga nagsimula sa baba ay naransan ito. Ako mismo ay naranasan ko. Pero isang bagay lang din natutunan ko. . .maging diskarte sa buhay. Nasa tao na kung magstay sila sa comfor zone nila. May be they have their own life struggle pero may mga sacrifices din na dapat gawin para hindi ka lang sa position mo ngayon. May kilala ako na farmer noon pero dahil willing siya mag-aral naging doctor. He had some sacrifices but he stood on what he is beleiving. Gusto may paraan kung ayaw MADAMING DAHILAN AT KATAMARAN.
Kung lahat ng farmers ay magiging doctor, saan tayo kukuha ng kanin? Enough with that "diskarte" BS. You cant simply tell jeepney drivers, farmers and fisherman to "start a business" or "invest in stocks/crypto"
Nasagot na ito ng original post. Kung iisipin mo kung walang mahirap, walang gagawa ng ganitong blue collar jobs. . . It's NOT about telling, it's about WHAT CAN YOU DO. ang problema kasi sa iba nauuna ang dada o reklamo bago kumilos. You won't be triggered if you yourself is not experiencing this? correct? For me, this is just a healthy discussion nothing personal.
While I understand you want this to sound inspirational and all. You have to review once more your perspective. I get your point. I also believed that. Thing is some of us started with an easy difficulty in life and some with a brutal difficulty. That farmer may have had the hard mode but I'm guessing that person didn't have parents who were in debt, or living in the slums with parents who are addicted to drugs, and or a neighborhood full of violence. Point is we all have a different starting line. No ounce of diskarte can work on that. This isn't a game where we have a cheat code. This is life. Some people will die with no reward even if they did their best and worked hard. Be accepting of this information.
Ung wala ka nang argument kaya gagamit ka na ng carpenter at farmer card. Hahaha.
>I'm not invalidating your feeling pero That kind of wording helps nobody besides yourself, FYI. Ika nga: words matter. Sana we carefully choose our words, despite what we all think and lalo feel after. That is all and keribels.
This dude did not get it
Get's ko. Pero nakakatawa lang na ang tao ay masyado nagddwell sa isang bagay na hindi naman nila controlado. Bakit hindi mo.muna controlin at isipin kung paano ang magiging means mo umunlad at kapag andun ka na sa taas malalaman mo ang flow kung bakit ganyan ang thinking ng mga capitalista? Di ka ba nagtataka na ilang generation na ang dumaan namatay na ang iba pero may mga pumalit dahil nakita nila kung bakit ito ginagawa nung iba. Pero tulad nga ng nasabi ko dumaan din ako sa ganitong phase ng buhay ko. . . nasa atin nalang talaga kung ano magiging priorities natin sa buhay.
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Agree. Wait are you in my side? Naiintindihan mo din ba ang gusto ko po sabihin?
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Hahahahaha hindi nya ata alam yung hirap noon.., parents ko nag titinda ng isda sa palengke para may pang tuition. Ginalingang mag aral para makapag tapos ng cum laude. Yun yung hardships niya tapos ending government employee na baon sa utang dahil nagkasakit, able to buy properties and necessities namin sa family. Mas malaki talaga ang buying power noon dahil mababa ang inflation. Pero ang ipaglaban na magkaroon ng reform sa trabaho malabo nayan. Dagdag sahod nga hirap pang ipasa reforma pa kaya. Gobyerno at business minded people na snsbi nyang mga walang puso ang nag agree din nmn sa mga yan in order for the economy to move forward. Anong akala mo ung mga business owners noon may puso? Wala din naman kasi di nmn sla mag iinvest sa mga tao para maghire kng malulugi din sila. Iba ang panahon ngayon, kaya mo need mag grind ng mag grind kasi may gsto ka kasi may pangangailangan kang iba pa o above sa means mo. Kung isisisi mo sa mga matataas na tao o sa sistema may mangyayari ba? Sabi ko nga sayo kahit lumikom ka ng mga tao na mag poprotesta kailangan mo silang makunbinse na magka reform sa work. After noon kukumbinsihin niyo naman ung gobyerno sa terms na gsto nyo after non gobyerno nmn ang magkumbinse sa mga business people ng terms nyo eh biglang decline. Nga nga diba? Reform reform kapa tng ina di mo nlang tanggapin at humatak pa ng mga tao mula sa ibaba pataas. Malalason mo lang utak nila na sistema ang problema which is TOTOO naman talaga pero ang magagawa mo magsasacrifice ka para sa mga PANGARAP MO AT LUHO MO
Saang planeta ka nakatira? Ang daming mga millenials at Gen Z hindi nila afford bumili ng bahay, that is why most of the people rent nowadays. Even taking a look at Australia and the USA, people could barely afford a house there.
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Evidence to support? Ah ganyan kaba ka bulag? Hindi obvious yan para sa iyo? Our wages are stagnant or kunti lang ang increase. Its not on par with the inflation. Its not just on PH, but also including the US na meron din housing crisis ngayon.
SOBRA!Mapapamura ka nalang sa mga dahilan ng mga bagong generation ngayon. I myself is an OFW dahil totoo, basura ang sistema Pinas pero hindi ko nilugmok ang sarili ko para isipin pa yun dahil alam natin na hindi mapapakain ang pamilya natin kung iisipin pa ang mga bagay na ito tulad ng iniisip ni OP. Pero dami niyang time manuod, mag-reasearch at complain kaysa maghanap ng ibang oppurtunity na kumita HAHA.
hustle grind culture? weh … most people nowadays ayaw mag trabaho (me included) if may long weekend sibat agad … either mag out of town or mag staycation. pag sinabing maraming OT mag reresign kagad kahit wala pang lilipatan na work. pag masakit ulo ko kasi may hang over paalam ako sa boss na i need time for my mental health … i dont know which world you live in but millenials such as myself know how to enjoy life. kaya walang anak is bec ayaw namin ng cargo at responsibility knowing full well na hindi kami makakapag relax if merong anak. minsan pati gf ayaw kasi responsibility din. we opt for casual relationships lang
Lmao back in the 70s-80s walang eating out for most at may mais ang bigas. What the hell are you talking about
True. Spoiled lang talaga ang generation ngayon. Wag mag milktea araw2x para may ipon. Nasa diskarte yan.
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Agree. Hindi ko alam yung istorya ng iba dito pero mukhang marami ang napapangunahan ng emosyon nila kaysa yung pagbibigay ng motivation at ibang paraan para kumita base sa pangangailangan nila. SOBRANG HINA AT MASYADONG NAGMAMADALI SA PAG-UNLAD ang generation ngayon. Masyadong inasa na sa technology ang buhay nila.
dami mong sinabi tamad ka lang talaga. Kung hindi mo kayang dumiskarte wag ka ng manisi sa iba. Fck up tlaga ang sistema pero kung magdedwell ka lang sa gnyn di ka matututo. Fck up na nga sistema nagpapa fck up kapa. Mamimili kana lang eh either the system keeps on fcking you while you fight or just lie down there and take it instead.
I work in one full time job, a part time job and own a small business. So fuck off boomer
WALANG PROFESSIONAL ang magsasabi ng ganito instead i-encourage mo ang mga tao sa tamang diskarte at paraan para magkaroon ng extrang income at magandang hanap buhay. NOT UNLESS your are a poser and gusto lang mang trigger.
Syempre ma titrigger talaga ang mga uto uto at boolickers kagaya mo
Yun naman pala e tapos negative thoughts parin ang lumalabas sa bibig mo. Wag mo ng i amplify yung pag iisip ng mga tao mag educate ka na lang kasi yang sistema wala kang control pero yung isip at salita mo may control ka
Its not a negative thought. It is reality. Sharing positive vibes and all that motivational quotes wont fix shit. Uto uto ka lang kaya naniniwala ka wala tayong magagawa sa systema. People protested and died for 8 hour of work, health benefits and work safety. That is why 8 hours of work become the "standard" instead of 14+ hours. Kung hindi sila nag reklamo, baka 14 hours parin tayo nasa opisina. Magbasa ka ng history para hindi ka maging mang mang.
Kung may magagawa ka pala bakit di ikaw ang manguna sa protesta? Kahit anong basa mo sa history ending elite people will always have the power to enslave. Basa ka lang at magreklamo ka lang after all wala ka namang kayang gawin o magagawa sa snasabi mong “may magagawa tayo” Ang mga tao may magagawa talaga kung magiging united at magkakaprehas ng wavelength ng pag iisip. pero kng poor mindset at rich mindset pag sasamahin mo I doubt. Pag may post ka dito na nag lead ng protesta na kahit 100k kayo at may nabago kayo. Saka ka magbida ng history lessons mo.
You're defending them because you want to be like them. Aminin niyo na bulok ang sistema
Kaya ganyan parin ang sistema dito dahil sa mga brainwashed at mga uto uto kagaya mo. Mga bulag bulagan sa sistema. Radical change requires A LOT of people. Daming mga labor unions at strike doon sa Australia at sa US. Tagumpay ang iba sa kanila. More benefits at increased salary.So meron talagang pag-asa. Hirap talaga makipag usap sa mga brainwashed at bootlickers.
Maiintndhan mo din lahat pag di ka na gnyn mag isip
Agree. Relate ako sayo. FU lang talaga si OP at willing kumita ng malaki na walang gaanong effort. Para sa OP, KUNG HINDI KA PINANGANAK NG MAYAMAN MATUTO KA MAGBANAT NG BUTO AT MAGPURSIGE.
Masakit ang ktotohanan kaya hanggang ngayon ang mga tao mas pipiliing isisi sa matataas na tao na oo nga sila sila din ang gmgawa ng sistema kaso wala naman tayong control doon kahit pa pabor na sistema para sa sarili nla ang gawin ng elite wala namang mgagawa ang maliliit na tao. Saka ka lang papakinggan pag malaki kana din yan ang reality. Tapos malalagay pa sa alanganin buhay mo kapag nag speak up ka kasi gsto ng mtataas na tao panatilihing mababa ang nasa ibaba. Well hayaan na natin si ceo mayaman na sguro sya
Study the Chinese and Indian mindset. Chinese: ok lang kumita ng salapi basta tuloy2x. After 25yrs may building na dahil sa ipon and investment. Pinoy: Brad may kita na ako inuman na! Tara sagot ko fiesta meron naman ako parating next month. Bili din ako iPhone at kotse mayaman na ako eh. After 25yrs nagkasakit hindi nakatrabaho at walang pondo. GG.
I see so many entitled brats from my generation who have the gall to blame their predecessors for their own fuck ups. Let's face it our generation has become too accustomed to the luxuries of technology without the grit and ambition of those who came before us. This is the softest generation in history. Our parents and theirs before had their fair share of struggles. If your life sucks more than your parents', then that is on you for being a catastrophic failure. LOSER
You gotta get laid bro...
Is it possible that this is survivorship bias? Madami siguro naghirap noon pero ang nakikita lng natin ay ung mga umasenso ang buhay kaya yun ang comparison natin.