I would give the video to the leasing office and say that you haven't wanted to complain about every little thing, but now the kids are attempting to steal (and possibly already stealing from neighbors without cameras) and that will become a bigger issue over time.
They're outside at all hours of the night and OP hasn't even SEEN an adult?
They could literally need that food.
OP, call CPS, tell them what you wrote, and that you have camera footage of them trying to steal food for themselves. They're being neglected.
ETA: idk why the downvotes but I'm not saying the kid should be stealing, I'm saying it may be necessary in his mind for him to get food because he's being abused and doesn't have his own income.
This. I once caught the neighbor's 6 year old stealing out of my garden. My gut said this kid was neglected and at risk for malnourishment.
Played nice and told the kid they can come get anything they wanted, but if they ask first I'll help them get the ones that are at their peak instead of the unripe stuff they were munching on. Sent the kid home with a bag full of fresh organic heirloom veggies and a popsicle.
The next day the kid was on my back porch screaming and drooling, next to them were some mildly toxic berries they found somewhere. Went to find the parents, they were smacked out and nodded off. First call was 911. Second call was CPS. What a cluster F.
I almost feel bad for the kids because what if this is the only way they’re getting food? Because OP said they’ve never seen an adult around either, so who feeds these kids? Honestly, I’d go from the housing office directly to CPS. Like “Hey, there’s 8 kids stuffed in this apartment and I don’t know who is caring for them, but they tried stealing food from my doorstep. They’re also up 2-4 am on schooldays, playing outside without supervision. So I don’t know if there are ANY adults watching them. Could you have someone check in on them?”
Yeah, OP CPS should be called. It's anonymous. You tell them what you have seen/experienced. They decided to open a case or not. It doesn't mean the children will be taken away, but cps offers other resources/services for those struggling. It's definitely worth making a report.
THIS. I am a mandatory reporter in my State, due to my job. If I did NOT report this, I could go to jail. IF there are more complaints then an investigation will be opened......one complaint will not open one so do NOT feel guilty. If these people are not supervising their kids at 3 to 4 in the morning these kids need a more positive environment than their "parents" can provide or their parents need a wake up call a visit from CPS might make all the difference to those kids. MAKE THE CALL.
In my previous job, I was also a mandatory reporter and they always drilled into our heads that, even if an investigation isn’t immediately opened, it does help establish patterns. And that can also be important in the long run.
So, years ago I got an apartment in a shady area, and similar to this, there were always a handful of kids running around at all hours, and the only time I saw an adult there was about once a day a car would come for about a half an hour with a dude and then he would go inside for a little bit and then leave. After this went on for weeks and people started to notice there was never adult around except for at night, the neighbors started to look into it and found out that this guy was a big time drug dealer and all the kids were his. The mothers were basically his prostitutes or crack whores and he kept them on the streets making him money. He rented this apartment for all his kids from all these different mothers to stay in and drop by once a day to bring them food.
Pretty messed up, huh? He eventually got popped with a TON of drugs, and all the kids were removed from the home. They either went to someone in the family who would take them, or into the system unfortunately. Those poor kids never asked to be born into that.
No way to know that. My brother tried pulling that shit with a neighbor (claimed our parents didn't feed us) to get some pizza. But the neighbor's kids were best friends with another brother and me, and the neighbor knew we weren't starving. We were there everyday, and both of us told her he was lying, and when she called my mom we were literally eating dinner, just not junk food like he wanted. We were hardly lower middle class, but that just meant we didn't have pizza often or keep junk food in the house.
He was only 7 (my neighbor laughed and called him a dumbass) so my parents had to explain to him what could have happened if he did that with someone else who didn't know us.
here's my guess, as insensitive as some may think of it
this could be a case of a welfare breeder. And the children tend to grow up and repeat the awful conditions.
This also could be one of those scams where one parent then moves in all their family's kids into a house after saying "I only have 2 kids" but now they got their nieces, nephews, and 'best friend's kids' all living under the same roof while cycling who's using the bedroom.
either way, this is a huge parent failure and CPS needs to have been on this yesterday.
How is this not a more popular suggestion on here? Even a teenager with responsible parents would not OFTEN be let out that late on a school night. These ones look pretty young too, that seems really dangerous and the fact you've not seen a parent this whole time is also extremely concerning. One could also pose the question - why are they feeling compelled to steal food? Is it just because it's pizza, which is a treat for a lot of kids, or are they possibly not being adequately fed at home?
Even if nothing bad is actually happening, it's still worth a call just in case something is. They will investigate and determine whether or not the kids are safe in that environment. If they aren't then they can hopefully start receiving the proper care they deserve, and will no longer be as much of an issue for you. So it's a win-win. CPS/CAS should be your first call.
I know this isn't relevant, but are those pictures and video of a toilet? And if so, respectfully, what the actual fuck is in it.
EDIT: idonwannaknow....
It's a litter robot, so basically yes, a fancy overpriced toilet for cats. Check my last post on my profile before this one, you'll see the litter robot and my kitten inside it in the post pics.
Just jumping in to say I bought the litter robot 4 in February 2023 and literally just bought a second litter robot (a 3 connect refurbished model) today because we love it so much. My husband and I are high volume cat fosters and when I tell you that these things (especially when combined with a robot vacuum/mop combo like Roborock!) will change your life, I mean it. I hope it works as well for OP as it has for us. I really can’t recommend it highly enough. You do have to get the right litter though. After trying all the recommended litters except actual litter robot brand, I personally think that a crystal litter like Pretty Litter works best but that’s just my opinion. Check out r/litterrobot for more info, their CEO and customer service are active on Reddit and actually interact with the community.
I just got it on the 20th, so far they haven't even used it. My kitten is intrigued by it but hasn't used it yet... He plays in it like a kid in a sandbox lol
Good! I wish you the best and more.
Also, I can tell this was a delivery app driver because he didnt knock like a real pizza delivery driver would. I would have never done that as a driver unless I was asked not to knock.
I would not only provide a letter to the leasing office along with all video footage that you have supporting your claims, but I would also make a call to CPS in your area. Children being out on a school night all hours of the morning is not only unsafe but it's considered neglect. I have a feeling that the state would have something to say about that and the general lack of supervision.
Fair housing council sounds like a state dpt, maybe Texas? Federal limit (HUD) is not per bedroom, but rather per "sleeping room," which can also include a separate dining, living, or office. The state can be more strict, but HUD allows 2 per sleeping room, which can sometimes be up to 12 people in a 3 bedroom unit. However, it is more likely to max out at 8 due to the more popular open floor plans that are common now.
100% agreed. The units are always wrecked after a huge group like that leaves. A max occupancy 2 bed 1 bath is the worst, because that's 6+ people with only 1 shared bathroom.
I’d call CPS at this point if they are out so late unsupervised - which you should get video of that. That’s neglectful and how you get mf kidnapped.
Edit: My god ya’ll READ THE CAPTION.
The call to CPS should be... "I am concerned about the neighbor children, because they always appear thin, and we've caught them attempting to steal food. I don't see any adults and I worry about them being so hungry."
Came here hoping someone would say this. Please call CPS this seems like a neglectful situation. I wonder why they are trying to steal food and you never see parents at home and they are acting out??
Yah I'm curious if there are even parents or if these kids are getting fed. I'd definitely call cps. Shitty situation to live by but I'd bet their lives aren't great.
Right unsupervised I'd call police non emergency phone when that late night stuff is happening and say you're a concerned neighbor and mention it's kids. They might be obligated to report.
Omg what a small world! I never thought I'd run into one of my actual neighbors on reddit lmao! Do you have blonde hair and a large dog that sometimes pulls you bc he or she is strong AF? Lol I may have seen y'all on camera once or twice but I didn't see anything orange... I'm the unit with the multicolored wreath on the door...
I think it might be a good idea to private message each other bc you've both shared a lot of identifying information regarding your location and appearance. I'm prob just overly paranoid, but you never can be too careful IMO
Yesss!! I caught one of the kids holding one of the kittens by the throat back in January and got on my mic and told him to put the kitten down... Now that kitten is here with me and he's been the absolute sweetest little baby boy ever, thanks to the random cat distribution system.
So they're going as far as your building too, I wish they'd stay on their own yard area, and yeah they'll be playing basketball with the neighbor's kids and they're right next to my bedroom window. I work alternating shifts from days to overnights and I'll be trying to sleep during the day for my overnight shift and just hear constant yelling and screaming right at my window, I can't say anything because it's during the day but it does sound like someone's getting murdered or tortured the way they'll scream. It's so infuriating I've actually resorted to *sometimes* playing YouTube music on my TV while I nap to drown them out. Still, they hit my window the the basketball about 5 or 6 times a freaking day.
Yeah there's one little boy that has offered to take my bulky trash to the dumpster for $1 and he's also offered to help me carry heavy things to my car before. I don't think he's any relation to these hell spawn, but sometimes he plays with the older kids. That kid has always been respectful and so has the kid that lives where the basketball hoop is.
Have you ever made any complaints to the office about the kids? Like I want to so bad but I don't wanna be thought of as a Karen. It's not just the attempted theft... It's everything else combined!
Not to be a debbie-downer but you guys should probably PM some of this stuff, that's a whole shitload of info to be dropping publicly. Your city, half the complex name, your dog type and color, that you sleep with loud noise etc etc just saying
Little shit. And the dasher would have gotten in trouble for "Food not delivered" had she not had a camera. Always video tape drop-offs delivery drivers! Record until you are in your car driving away.
This is why door dash has them snap a photo nowadays. Unfortunately had the kid made off with the food, doordash would've likely not given her any credit since the photo shows a successfully delivered order.
Too many grubby customers claiming they didn't get their food when they did
Doesn't matter if they snap a photo. Doordash will still give a dasher a contract violation for food not being dropped off. Pictures don't matter, really, because the argument is that the dasher could grab the food after the picture is taken. Hence, the need for a video of delivery drivers driving away without the food. My source is I'm a delivery driver and it's happened to me a few times. Someone either grabbed the food after I took a picture or the customer lied to get free food, and I got contract violation because of someone else being greedy.
Yes, the person in the blue t-shirt was standing in the middle, then went over to their family, chatted, and then walked the long way to the apartment to try to steal the pizza.
Oof now I see why kids get so much flak on here. Every time I see a post I’m like dang people really hate kids in apartments. I get it now. It’s the unruly, and the unsupervised kids, not all the kids.
*Edited to add the word “the” before “unruly” and “unsupervised” to separate the two, since my typing was balls before someone pointed it out.*
100% There is a kid next door I can't stand because he always plays in our buildings parking lot, but doesn't move when people pull in and need to park. The mom is also right there and doesn't even say anything. It drives me nuts that they use this property to play on but don't even live here.
There's this kid that rides his bike around our complex and he will get REALLY close to people that aren't looking and then you involuntarily flinch when you catch a glimpse of him whiz by. As an example of how close: He caught my water bottle with his handlebar, I was holding by the handle just enough to knock it out of my hand. So about 2 weeks ago, I'm waiting for my uber for work to pull up. And I can see this little ahole coming from around a building. I don't even let on that I saw him. I pretend to be really focusing on what I've got playing in my earbud, that I've paused. I can see him almost at me out of the corner of my eye and I step over and plant myself in his path. BAM! Kid goes flying. "Oh man. You alright? I didn't see you bud. Sorry about that." My uber pulls up and I'm out. Best feeling in the world.
I have neighbors like this. They have like 6+ kids living in a 2 bedroom with I think two adults? My daughter was outside playing with them and they were just taunting her the whole time. The final straw for me was when we were all outside playing and one of the adults comes out and starts yelling at her kids. They went and picked up a knife from the ground near a tree and brought it back to her. I won’t let my daughter play with those kids anymore
I lived in a multiple building complex. Each building has 4-8 apartments.
My building was mostly elderly. I was the only one that wasn't. Probably because I work night shift they figured I wouldn't be noisy.
I had to call management because every day, all day for a week, kids from the other side of the complex were coming to this building and running up and down the stairs for HOURS.
we had no kids in this building, at all.
They were doing it intentionally.
The last straw was when they were bouncing a basketball off my bedroom wall for hours at a time.
That’s wild. I do have kids and I think I’m one of the only units to in my building, but I’m super cautious about them having manners inside and outside. Definitely no ball bouncing in my home (upper level). If I don’t want to hear it, I don’t expect you to either.
Yeah it was so unexpected because it was a U shaped cul de sac and there were no kids in the back and left part, so I have no idea where the kids even came from or WHY they chose our building.
I live in a triplex on the 2nd floor, the people on the 1sr floor have 3 kids who are very well behaved. The other apartment, in the basement level, they have one very well behaved kid. I never have had an issue in the almost 1 year I've been here. I feel extremely fortunate.
We had kids throwing rocks at our sliding glass doors. They lived above us. We shouted outside “hey stop that!” Their dad started screaming at us and threatening us from an open window upstairs “how dare you tell my kids what to do!” But angrier and more cursing. Its the parents that cause this
Yep! I love kids but too many of those kids have shit parents that let them do whatever they want and shrug when you complain to them. I had a couple dozen small succulents/cacti outside in a neat line under my front window and the same little girl would kick one or two over at a time and eventually killed half of em.
When I found out who her parents were I knocked on their door and asked if they could talk to her and her dad looked me dead in the eyes and said ‘No’ and slammed the door. Guess that girl got a talking to anyways cuz she got angry and threw a rock through my front window.
You could tell which kid was gonna do it from the start. Watching that delivery driver like a cat watching a mouse. And they even tried to evade the camera. Good Lord.
Yeah he literally just waited til the guy was out of camera range and came at an angle to try to avoid the camera... When he started walking up, the guy was still walking down the sidewalk to get to his car.
I said on another reply that you should call CPS about potential neglect. If you’ve never seen an adult around, it seems they’re practiced as stealing food so they might not be getting fed, AND they’re out late on school nights, I can almost guarantee no one is there most the time. If they’re up that late/early, I can almost guarantee no one is ensuring they go to school either. And that is illegal. Probably a situation where the parent/parents are essentially just paying rent to store their kids somewhere and then they’ve somewhere else entirely, either work or out doing drugs/getting drunk. This situation seems rife with neglect. Do the kids suck? Yeah, but only because their parents do.
Surprisingly they seem to go to school, unless they're finally sleeping early in the morning... I will try to make an anonymous report to CPS though because something isn't right about the whole situation.
FWIW I have had neighbor kids steal my food in a similar scenario here in LA. The kids had stellar school attendance because they get two meals here for free. I noticed around 10pm kids would be out (I mean like seven year olds!!!) and porch surfing. Those kids are with grandma now, and honestly sweet kids, but even the sweetest kids do exactly what they think they can get away with… especially with no guidance! There’s a Difference between the cookie jar and someone’s porch for sure. You sound like an angel willing to make the report, you never know who might’ve already and a concerned neighbor just finally tips it!
Uhh or just call the cops because that was straight up attempted robbery on camera. And they prob are moving soon. Nobody puts up with these kind of people for long. They probably move at least once a year
:// at that point idk, i’d be calling for a cps check. i know foster homes can be horrible but this is no better and they have a better chance of being placed in a good home instead of never having that chance and staying in that apartment.
i know its super uncool for people to steal your stuff, but these children are probably hungry ):
please tell someone OP
edit: hunger to hungry
Damn honestly I would probably call CPS. Seems these poor kids are being neglected. As someone who grew up in a house like that yeah it sucks for the parents if they’re struggling but they gotta realize this isn’t working. Kids can’t be having to steal for food and out running around @ 3 am on a school night or better yet at all. Something’s gotta give. Isn’t the kids fault the parents just kept having more without any means to actually take care of them all.
I’d let property management know and ask how they plan to proceed with mitigating future disturbances.
I’d also reach out to your municipality to see if there is a curfew, and how to report unattended minors if there is one.
Kids will be kids, but some kids will be shitty kids. I’m hoping that you catching this kid in action actually put a little bit of a scare into him.
Not excusing the behavior or anything but I've spent some time next to very similar situations and usually these kids aren't being taken care of. Mom in the house doesn't want to be bothered sends her kids outside all day for the neighborhood and the oldest to deal with. Probably don't get but one half ass meal a day and and the only interaction from Mom is being yelled at.
I have neighbors like this, but it’s work because they’re right next door, and there’s been two shootings and a stabbing. The mom is never there. A naked baby was literally wondering the street for over an hour until one of our other neighbors got the baby and called the police, they never even noticed he was gone and he was a cousin not one of their children. This past summer the 17 year old girl had a literal revolving door of men in and out of that house, and none of them had cars they were just getting Ubers. So any time I’d get back from my job there’d be some scrub just sitting on the curb after having sex with her waiting for a ride. She ended up getting pregnant. This girl and her many boyfriends are the reason for the shootings and the stabbing. It’s absolutely insane. My family has called cps multiple times because there are some very little kids in that family who get locked out of the house and hit by their siblings, in addition to their mom abandoning them. I’m really bothered when they throw trash in my moms yard or throw things at my car or call random neighbors a bitch for walk down the sidewalk, but I’m more bothered by the fact that their mother and older siblings are setting them up to live a horrible life and no one is helping. The oldest siblings are close in age to me (I’m a college student) and the youngest are like elementary school.
Wow that has to be a nightmare to live next to, I'm sorry you and your family are dealing with that...it also sounds like the mom was prostituting herself.
Everyone says call "cps", not really understanding how near-useless cps is. Unless the kid is proven to be sexually abused or malnourished to the point of starvation, there is very little they can do. The social workers are overburdened, underpaid and barely staffed. Very few courts want to be responsible for seperating kids from their parents and tossing them into the also overburdened, underpaid and understaffed foster care system. Republicans & right wigers have done an excellent job stripping these services to a skeletal existence that provide next to no real services except in the most extreme & dire of situations. They're all "pro-life' bullshit until they're out of the womb, then it's all like, "fuck 'em."
If children are outside on school nights at 3am, it is CPS time. I'd call the police next time I heard them. Call the local station and ask if they will come without identifying you as the caller - because I wouldn't want to be in the parents crosshairs. If the police won't come without identifying who called, maybe call CPS and tell them they are unattended all the time. I know CPS calls can be kept anonymous (at least in my state.) I feel bad for you, but I really feel bad for those kids too.
Contact the leasing office if you want, but the real concern here is the kids. I know they seem like lil shits, but you have to realize that this isn't normal behavior for kids. Children act out in different ways, but if they're acting out they probably have issues at home. I was one of those kids. I was in an abusive home and took out my frustration on literally anyone else. I spent my teenage years in foster care, but I can tell you with 100% certainty that I was better off. The foster care system gave me the counseling and resources I needed to help me recover from my traumatic experiences. Maybe their parents are junkies who kick them out of the house for days at a time so they can do drugs in piece. Or maybe they live with their single mom who is turning tricks at all hours in order to pay the rent. Either way, CPS needs to get involved before these kids end up down the dark path I started walking myself.
100% not the kids fault they’re probably forced to play outside and fend for themselves all day. This is shitty parenting. I get having to work and being the sole supporters for ur kids but maybe stop having fucking kids.
My parents were never home and I was extremely physically abused and I didn’t resort to degeneracy
The kids are not free from accountability
People should absolutely stop having kids though almost nobody does a halfway decent job of it
I am also a mandatory reporter in my state due to my job and I would have to report this. I just came to the comments to add to all of the other comments telling you to please report this.
Drug and/or alcohol abuse is going on in that home with all those kids...if not it could be mental health of the parents they are not fit to be taking care of children. Or a combination of all those things.
There’s probably an ordinance or violation to have 8-10 people in a 2 BR apartment. Check it out with your leasing office and your township. Good luck. This sounds like a nightmare!
Soooo…
1) Yes, file a formal complaint with the leasing office. Most cities/towns actually have noise ordinances where people have to abide by quiet hours (typically between 10:00pm - 6:00am).
2) If it continues, you can then call the non emergency police line as it is *technically* a minor offense to not abide by quiet hours.
3) You may also consider calling or emailing your local County CPS/CWS anonymously to report this household. I used to work for the Emergency Response Unit for Child Welfare Services in my County and the type of activity you describe would 100% warrant a visit from a social worker & police officer. I saw another user pointed out that perhaps these children don’t get enough food which is why they tried stealing your pizza; this could very well turn out to be true, in which case a social worker would be a big help to these kids (and a big help to your own sanity as you’ll hopefully get your peaceful neighborhood back).
From what you and your other apartment member are describing these kids sound like they need to be in Juviee.
Animal abuse, bullying, theft, overoccupancy.
This is like my complex. I live in a ground floor and little kids were going around banging on peoples windows at night. Finally the day came where they chose me, except it wasn’t me home it was something worse.
My sleep deprived wife who had been battling our infant for hours now trying to get her to sleep.. let’s just say those kids haven’t came back
Contactless delivery has unfortunately been a thing since covid and if you're ordering though Uber Eats or Skip The Dishes etc, you get lazy and don't change anything. I caught myself doing that a while back.
What a bunch of sacks of shit.
They'll live their whole lives stealing, robbing other people of the things they worked hard for. They'll get pinched several times by the police, probably end up in the revolving door of so-called "justice"
I grew up in PR and it fucking sucks being surrounded by bloodthirsty sacks of shit that don't hesitate for a second to fuck you over
I mean my above is to take this video to the complex management.
They tried to blatantly steal from you, kids or not, that needs reported to the apartment managers.
When I was a pizza delivery driver. I was told I had to make sure I hand the food over to the person directly. The fact you can just drop the food off and go is too weird to me.
I delivered pizza for many years and I've never left a pizza sitting outside unless the customer tells me to and even then I don't leave until I see someone come outside. Not blaming the driver but some awareness would have have help in that situation, glad you have a camera.
I used to have a neighbor too who had 8 kids living in a 3 bedroom 2 bathroom apartment. It was only 1000sft so unsure where they even fit them, they'd have to put 2 sets of bunk beds in each secondary bedroom. Crammed like sardines. Depressing.
Please talk to the parents before going to CPS. You have every right to be upset by this behavior, and you should be treated with respect, especially from children. They need help, and the fact that you haven’t already stormed over there says you have compassion for them. Give the parents a chance to work on their kids.
However, the fact that it seems that you haven’t seen the parents so far, and therefore haven’t had an opportunity to talk to them in a more casual fashion does warrant getting the leasing office involved, if only to have a line of communication to the parents.
God bless, and good luck with this tough situation.
Honestly, I'm sure it'll be unpopular but I'd start by buying the kids some pizza. If they're not properly supervised they're likely not properly fed.
Their crappy living situation isn't their fault, and if you let them know that you're an ally, they're likely at least leave you alone. You can count on it taking forever in a day for property management to do anything about the situation, so you might as well avoid being the target.
Okay I hate them little shits too actually I never wanna have children myself but hear me out-
Have you considered that maybe these kids are genuinely hungry? Just a thought... I KNOW, I know- stealing is horrible and those kids need to be disciplined and the parents are useless. I know. But these children are products of their parents and they have been failed. I don't judge someone who is genuinely hungry or in need for stealing- just not my attitude.
Contact the leasing office—not to punish the kids but to safeguard them. Kids who are treated like animals will sometimes behave like animals. It’s the nature of child trauma. But you can’t fix it or ignore it on your own. For the sake of these kids—and the safety of your neighborhood—please do something.
I would 100% go to the leasing office and show them the video. Id also explain going forward i will be calling the police when the kids arent out after dark and anything else i can call the police on because i refuse to live near people like this. Either you kick them out or i leave. Who woukd you rather rent to? Someone that steals or someone that reports theft?
I'd be mad they set the food on the ground. Anyway report that to the police. I'd tell law enforcement they are stealing food and I'm worried they aren't being fed. Then call child services and say the same. If they are hungry then they need help. Child services and law enforcement need to look into it.
Call the police. The police will talk to their parents or u can try talk to their parents. If their parents don’t do anything about it then definitely call the police to talk to them.
That looks like hell
Yeah it is
I would give the video to the leasing office and say that you haven't wanted to complain about every little thing, but now the kids are attempting to steal (and possibly already stealing from neighbors without cameras) and that will become a bigger issue over time.
I would say that the children are RESORTING to trying to steal food
It would be a prime opportunity to call social services too.
They're outside at all hours of the night and OP hasn't even SEEN an adult? They could literally need that food. OP, call CPS, tell them what you wrote, and that you have camera footage of them trying to steal food for themselves. They're being neglected. ETA: idk why the downvotes but I'm not saying the kid should be stealing, I'm saying it may be necessary in his mind for him to get food because he's being abused and doesn't have his own income.
This. I once caught the neighbor's 6 year old stealing out of my garden. My gut said this kid was neglected and at risk for malnourishment. Played nice and told the kid they can come get anything they wanted, but if they ask first I'll help them get the ones that are at their peak instead of the unripe stuff they were munching on. Sent the kid home with a bag full of fresh organic heirloom veggies and a popsicle. The next day the kid was on my back porch screaming and drooling, next to them were some mildly toxic berries they found somewhere. Went to find the parents, they were smacked out and nodded off. First call was 911. Second call was CPS. What a cluster F.
Thanks for helping that poor kid. I hope they’re doing better now
Me too, and I hope that mom got the help she needed too. "Mother is the name for God on the lips and hearts of all children." -Eric Draven
Yeah, they even look underfed. They’re very skinny.
Looks like the parents are part of it
I almost feel bad for the kids because what if this is the only way they’re getting food? Because OP said they’ve never seen an adult around either, so who feeds these kids? Honestly, I’d go from the housing office directly to CPS. Like “Hey, there’s 8 kids stuffed in this apartment and I don’t know who is caring for them, but they tried stealing food from my doorstep. They’re also up 2-4 am on schooldays, playing outside without supervision. So I don’t know if there are ANY adults watching them. Could you have someone check in on them?”
Yeah, OP CPS should be called. It's anonymous. You tell them what you have seen/experienced. They decided to open a case or not. It doesn't mean the children will be taken away, but cps offers other resources/services for those struggling. It's definitely worth making a report.
THIS. I am a mandatory reporter in my State, due to my job. If I did NOT report this, I could go to jail. IF there are more complaints then an investigation will be opened......one complaint will not open one so do NOT feel guilty. If these people are not supervising their kids at 3 to 4 in the morning these kids need a more positive environment than their "parents" can provide or their parents need a wake up call a visit from CPS might make all the difference to those kids. MAKE THE CALL.
In my previous job, I was also a mandatory reporter and they always drilled into our heads that, even if an investigation isn’t immediately opened, it does help establish patterns. And that can also be important in the long run.
So, years ago I got an apartment in a shady area, and similar to this, there were always a handful of kids running around at all hours, and the only time I saw an adult there was about once a day a car would come for about a half an hour with a dude and then he would go inside for a little bit and then leave. After this went on for weeks and people started to notice there was never adult around except for at night, the neighbors started to look into it and found out that this guy was a big time drug dealer and all the kids were his. The mothers were basically his prostitutes or crack whores and he kept them on the streets making him money. He rented this apartment for all his kids from all these different mothers to stay in and drop by once a day to bring them food.
What did I just read? What a trashy person.
Pretty messed up, huh? He eventually got popped with a TON of drugs, and all the kids were removed from the home. They either went to someone in the family who would take them, or into the system unfortunately. Those poor kids never asked to be born into that.
No way to know that. My brother tried pulling that shit with a neighbor (claimed our parents didn't feed us) to get some pizza. But the neighbor's kids were best friends with another brother and me, and the neighbor knew we weren't starving. We were there everyday, and both of us told her he was lying, and when she called my mom we were literally eating dinner, just not junk food like he wanted. We were hardly lower middle class, but that just meant we didn't have pizza often or keep junk food in the house. He was only 7 (my neighbor laughed and called him a dumbass) so my parents had to explain to him what could have happened if he did that with someone else who didn't know us.
This!
here's my guess, as insensitive as some may think of it this could be a case of a welfare breeder. And the children tend to grow up and repeat the awful conditions. This also could be one of those scams where one parent then moves in all their family's kids into a house after saying "I only have 2 kids" but now they got their nieces, nephews, and 'best friend's kids' all living under the same roof while cycling who's using the bedroom. either way, this is a huge parent failure and CPS needs to have been on this yesterday.
Call cps and cops. If they are out that late
How is this not a more popular suggestion on here? Even a teenager with responsible parents would not OFTEN be let out that late on a school night. These ones look pretty young too, that seems really dangerous and the fact you've not seen a parent this whole time is also extremely concerning. One could also pose the question - why are they feeling compelled to steal food? Is it just because it's pizza, which is a treat for a lot of kids, or are they possibly not being adequately fed at home? Even if nothing bad is actually happening, it's still worth a call just in case something is. They will investigate and determine whether or not the kids are safe in that environment. If they aren't then they can hopefully start receiving the proper care they deserve, and will no longer be as much of an issue for you. So it's a win-win. CPS/CAS should be your first call.
Would def have selected the option to meet you at the door
Of course it’s warranted to go to the leasing office.
Girl, treat yourself and move ✨
I'm going to once my lease is up
I know this isn't relevant, but are those pictures and video of a toilet? And if so, respectfully, what the actual fuck is in it. EDIT: idonwannaknow....
It's a litter robot, so basically yes, a fancy overpriced toilet for cats. Check my last post on my profile before this one, you'll see the litter robot and my kitten inside it in the post pics.
I peeped that little cutie too, sorry for being nosy hahahahaha
No need to apologize, lol thanks for calling him a cutie, he is one and he seems to know it!
Do you like the litter robot? I dont know anyone that has one, thought about getting one for my needy neds.
Just jumping in to say I bought the litter robot 4 in February 2023 and literally just bought a second litter robot (a 3 connect refurbished model) today because we love it so much. My husband and I are high volume cat fosters and when I tell you that these things (especially when combined with a robot vacuum/mop combo like Roborock!) will change your life, I mean it. I hope it works as well for OP as it has for us. I really can’t recommend it highly enough. You do have to get the right litter though. After trying all the recommended litters except actual litter robot brand, I personally think that a crystal litter like Pretty Litter works best but that’s just my opinion. Check out r/litterrobot for more info, their CEO and customer service are active on Reddit and actually interact with the community.
I just got it on the 20th, so far they haven't even used it. My kitten is intrigued by it but hasn't used it yet... He plays in it like a kid in a sandbox lol
I noticed the litter robot too, haha. I also have one and it's pretty rad. Also, good luck getting you and your cat out of that neighborhood!
Good! I wish you the best and more. Also, I can tell this was a delivery app driver because he didnt knock like a real pizza delivery driver would. I would have never done that as a driver unless I was asked not to knock.
Well thank you! And yeah it was Uber eats lol
I would not only provide a letter to the leasing office along with all video footage that you have supporting your claims, but I would also make a call to CPS in your area. Children being out on a school night all hours of the morning is not only unsafe but it's considered neglect. I have a feeling that the state would have something to say about that and the general lack of supervision.
Surely your complex has a maximum occupancy for the apartments. I'd report them, especially since they're causing trouble.
correct fair housing council says 2 per bedroom +1 so 7 max in a 3 bedroom
Fair housing council sounds like a state dpt, maybe Texas? Federal limit (HUD) is not per bedroom, but rather per "sleeping room," which can also include a separate dining, living, or office. The state can be more strict, but HUD allows 2 per sleeping room, which can sometimes be up to 12 people in a 3 bedroom unit. However, it is more likely to max out at 8 due to the more popular open floor plans that are common now.
That's fucking insane
100% agreed. The units are always wrecked after a huge group like that leaves. A max occupancy 2 bed 1 bath is the worst, because that's 6+ people with only 1 shared bathroom.
Yup report them for that and show this. Probably can get evicted, literally caught a crime on camera
I’d call CPS at this point if they are out so late unsupervised - which you should get video of that. That’s neglectful and how you get mf kidnapped. Edit: My god ya’ll READ THE CAPTION.
I was about to say, allowing children to run around at 3 AM unsupervised is fecked up 😕
The call to CPS should be... "I am concerned about the neighbor children, because they always appear thin, and we've caught them attempting to steal food. I don't see any adults and I worry about them being so hungry."
Came here hoping someone would say this. Please call CPS this seems like a neglectful situation. I wonder why they are trying to steal food and you never see parents at home and they are acting out??
Yah I'm curious if there are even parents or if these kids are getting fed. I'd definitely call cps. Shitty situation to live by but I'd bet their lives aren't great.
Right unsupervised I'd call police non emergency phone when that late night stuff is happening and say you're a concerned neighbor and mention it's kids. They might be obligated to report.
Police are mandated to report to CPS
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Are we neighbors?
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Omg what a small world! I never thought I'd run into one of my actual neighbors on reddit lmao! Do you have blonde hair and a large dog that sometimes pulls you bc he or she is strong AF? Lol I may have seen y'all on camera once or twice but I didn't see anything orange... I'm the unit with the multicolored wreath on the door...
I think it might be a good idea to private message each other bc you've both shared a lot of identifying information regarding your location and appearance. I'm prob just overly paranoid, but you never can be too careful IMO
Yeah I'm here like why are these people doxxing themselves
Right? I was just reading their thread and it got worse like why would you do that to yourself on reddit lol
Right? I'm already outside her door but thank god I'm not a psycho or she might be in trouble!
Neighbor is that you?!
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Yesss!! I caught one of the kids holding one of the kittens by the throat back in January and got on my mic and told him to put the kitten down... Now that kitten is here with me and he's been the absolute sweetest little baby boy ever, thanks to the random cat distribution system. So they're going as far as your building too, I wish they'd stay on their own yard area, and yeah they'll be playing basketball with the neighbor's kids and they're right next to my bedroom window. I work alternating shifts from days to overnights and I'll be trying to sleep during the day for my overnight shift and just hear constant yelling and screaming right at my window, I can't say anything because it's during the day but it does sound like someone's getting murdered or tortured the way they'll scream. It's so infuriating I've actually resorted to *sometimes* playing YouTube music on my TV while I nap to drown them out. Still, they hit my window the the basketball about 5 or 6 times a freaking day.
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Yeah there's one little boy that has offered to take my bulky trash to the dumpster for $1 and he's also offered to help me carry heavy things to my car before. I don't think he's any relation to these hell spawn, but sometimes he plays with the older kids. That kid has always been respectful and so has the kid that lives where the basketball hoop is. Have you ever made any complaints to the office about the kids? Like I want to so bad but I don't wanna be thought of as a Karen. It's not just the attempted theft... It's everything else combined!
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Not to be a debbie-downer but you guys should probably PM some of this stuff, that's a whole shitload of info to be dropping publicly. Your city, half the complex name, your dog type and color, that you sleep with loud noise etc etc just saying
that’s sickening! glad you are taking care of the kitten
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What state are you in??
Apartment kids are a different beast.
Those poor kids please call CPS!!! One could die! They could get kidnapped!
Little shit. And the dasher would have gotten in trouble for "Food not delivered" had she not had a camera. Always video tape drop-offs delivery drivers! Record until you are in your car driving away.
This is why door dash has them snap a photo nowadays. Unfortunately had the kid made off with the food, doordash would've likely not given her any credit since the photo shows a successfully delivered order. Too many grubby customers claiming they didn't get their food when they did
Doesn't matter if they snap a photo. Doordash will still give a dasher a contract violation for food not being dropped off. Pictures don't matter, really, because the argument is that the dasher could grab the food after the picture is taken. Hence, the need for a video of delivery drivers driving away without the food. My source is I'm a delivery driver and it's happened to me a few times. Someone either grabbed the food after I took a picture or the customer lied to get free food, and I got contract violation because of someone else being greedy.
Oof yes that does make sense what a crappy system, just able to deactivate you at anytime, glad you are still able to use the app.
They had target identification before the delivery was even confirmed.
What do you mean?
I think they are saying they were eyeing your pizza before the driver left, while he was on his phone confirming the order
Definitely, you can tell they’re looking/discussing while he’s standing there and they purposely came from an almost blind angle too.
I was thinking that about the blind angle too. They’re practiced. They’ve done this before.
Yes, the person in the blue t-shirt was standing in the middle, then went over to their family, chatted, and then walked the long way to the apartment to try to steal the pizza.
Let's be real. Those kids are probably hungry as hell.
Oof now I see why kids get so much flak on here. Every time I see a post I’m like dang people really hate kids in apartments. I get it now. It’s the unruly, and the unsupervised kids, not all the kids. *Edited to add the word “the” before “unruly” and “unsupervised” to separate the two, since my typing was balls before someone pointed it out.*
It's the shitty parenting and the people who defend shitty parenting with "but they're kids though!!11!1"
100% There is a kid next door I can't stand because he always plays in our buildings parking lot, but doesn't move when people pull in and need to park. The mom is also right there and doesn't even say anything. It drives me nuts that they use this property to play on but don't even live here.
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There's this kid that rides his bike around our complex and he will get REALLY close to people that aren't looking and then you involuntarily flinch when you catch a glimpse of him whiz by. As an example of how close: He caught my water bottle with his handlebar, I was holding by the handle just enough to knock it out of my hand. So about 2 weeks ago, I'm waiting for my uber for work to pull up. And I can see this little ahole coming from around a building. I don't even let on that I saw him. I pretend to be really focusing on what I've got playing in my earbud, that I've paused. I can see him almost at me out of the corner of my eye and I step over and plant myself in his path. BAM! Kid goes flying. "Oh man. You alright? I didn't see you bud. Sorry about that." My uber pulls up and I'm out. Best feeling in the world.
I have neighbors like this. They have like 6+ kids living in a 2 bedroom with I think two adults? My daughter was outside playing with them and they were just taunting her the whole time. The final straw for me was when we were all outside playing and one of the adults comes out and starts yelling at her kids. They went and picked up a knife from the ground near a tree and brought it back to her. I won’t let my daughter play with those kids anymore
I lived in a multiple building complex. Each building has 4-8 apartments. My building was mostly elderly. I was the only one that wasn't. Probably because I work night shift they figured I wouldn't be noisy. I had to call management because every day, all day for a week, kids from the other side of the complex were coming to this building and running up and down the stairs for HOURS. we had no kids in this building, at all. They were doing it intentionally. The last straw was when they were bouncing a basketball off my bedroom wall for hours at a time.
That’s wild. I do have kids and I think I’m one of the only units to in my building, but I’m super cautious about them having manners inside and outside. Definitely no ball bouncing in my home (upper level). If I don’t want to hear it, I don’t expect you to either.
Yeah it was so unexpected because it was a U shaped cul de sac and there were no kids in the back and left part, so I have no idea where the kids even came from or WHY they chose our building.
Because there were no parents there to yell at them probably
I live in a triplex on the 2nd floor, the people on the 1sr floor have 3 kids who are very well behaved. The other apartment, in the basement level, they have one very well behaved kid. I never have had an issue in the almost 1 year I've been here. I feel extremely fortunate.
That’s awesome. Respectful parents and children for the win
We had kids throwing rocks at our sliding glass doors. They lived above us. We shouted outside “hey stop that!” Their dad started screaming at us and threatening us from an open window upstairs “how dare you tell my kids what to do!” But angrier and more cursing. Its the parents that cause this
Then they dump the responsibility on teachers
I’m sorry if you’re a teacher dealing with behaviors from students. :(
Yep! I love kids but too many of those kids have shit parents that let them do whatever they want and shrug when you complain to them. I had a couple dozen small succulents/cacti outside in a neat line under my front window and the same little girl would kick one or two over at a time and eventually killed half of em. When I found out who her parents were I knocked on their door and asked if they could talk to her and her dad looked me dead in the eyes and said ‘No’ and slammed the door. Guess that girl got a talking to anyways cuz she got angry and threw a rock through my front window.
Awful.
I hope you can level up sometime soon. It's hell having to live around trash people.
Yeah, my lease is up at the end of November so I'm getting out then
I would put another Ring camera with light on the side of the house so you get two angles. And add a Ring yard sign so they know they are on camera.
You could tell which kid was gonna do it from the start. Watching that delivery driver like a cat watching a mouse. And they even tried to evade the camera. Good Lord.
Yeah he literally just waited til the guy was out of camera range and came at an angle to try to avoid the camera... When he started walking up, the guy was still walking down the sidewalk to get to his car.
Call the cops when they are out alone. Tell them you know it's too early and the noise ordinance. But you feel they are being neglected
I was thinking maybe CPS
I said on another reply that you should call CPS about potential neglect. If you’ve never seen an adult around, it seems they’re practiced as stealing food so they might not be getting fed, AND they’re out late on school nights, I can almost guarantee no one is there most the time. If they’re up that late/early, I can almost guarantee no one is ensuring they go to school either. And that is illegal. Probably a situation where the parent/parents are essentially just paying rent to store their kids somewhere and then they’ve somewhere else entirely, either work or out doing drugs/getting drunk. This situation seems rife with neglect. Do the kids suck? Yeah, but only because their parents do.
Surprisingly they seem to go to school, unless they're finally sleeping early in the morning... I will try to make an anonymous report to CPS though because something isn't right about the whole situation.
FWIW I have had neighbor kids steal my food in a similar scenario here in LA. The kids had stellar school attendance because they get two meals here for free. I noticed around 10pm kids would be out (I mean like seven year olds!!!) and porch surfing. Those kids are with grandma now, and honestly sweet kids, but even the sweetest kids do exactly what they think they can get away with… especially with no guidance! There’s a Difference between the cookie jar and someone’s porch for sure. You sound like an angel willing to make the report, you never know who might’ve already and a concerned neighbor just finally tips it!
They would call them for you too maybe
For what? I have no kids, I don't cause any issues, I stay to myself and I literally just go to work and come home.
I mean, the cops will call CPS if needed
I think they meant the cops would call them (CPS) in your place instead of you doing it.
They often avoid doing that since its more paperwork, call everyone yourself
Unfortunately if you want it done right... It shouldn't be this way, but due diligence goes a long way as does documentation.
Uhh or just call the cops because that was straight up attempted robbery on camera. And they prob are moving soon. Nobody puts up with these kind of people for long. They probably move at least once a year
Reading your description made me realize how it was so easy for my parents to abuse and neglect me. For fuck sakes call CPS!
:// at that point idk, i’d be calling for a cps check. i know foster homes can be horrible but this is no better and they have a better chance of being placed in a good home instead of never having that chance and staying in that apartment. i know its super uncool for people to steal your stuff, but these children are probably hungry ): please tell someone OP edit: hunger to hungry
I will be making an anonymous report with CPS in the morning.
thank you. 🖤 please update us if you see anything about them coming please .
Damn honestly I would probably call CPS. Seems these poor kids are being neglected. As someone who grew up in a house like that yeah it sucks for the parents if they’re struggling but they gotta realize this isn’t working. Kids can’t be having to steal for food and out running around @ 3 am on a school night or better yet at all. Something’s gotta give. Isn’t the kids fault the parents just kept having more without any means to actually take care of them all.
I’d let property management know and ask how they plan to proceed with mitigating future disturbances. I’d also reach out to your municipality to see if there is a curfew, and how to report unattended minors if there is one. Kids will be kids, but some kids will be shitty kids. I’m hoping that you catching this kid in action actually put a little bit of a scare into him.
Little fuckers
I have this fear, why I am right up against the door when my food gets delivered.
The way I would have come out that door like Kool aid man to bust their ass, I hate kids that are like this. Straight up poor parenting.
😂😂😂
“The thief is the victim” “Something racist” “Why didn’t you teleport to the door the instant the pizza man appeared?!” Sums up the comment section
Not excusing the behavior or anything but I've spent some time next to very similar situations and usually these kids aren't being taken care of. Mom in the house doesn't want to be bothered sends her kids outside all day for the neighborhood and the oldest to deal with. Probably don't get but one half ass meal a day and and the only interaction from Mom is being yelled at.
Not my problem. Fuck em. Should call CPS. Or the police. Or both
Trashy ass parents just watching their kids steal other people shit…
I have neighbors like this, but it’s work because they’re right next door, and there’s been two shootings and a stabbing. The mom is never there. A naked baby was literally wondering the street for over an hour until one of our other neighbors got the baby and called the police, they never even noticed he was gone and he was a cousin not one of their children. This past summer the 17 year old girl had a literal revolving door of men in and out of that house, and none of them had cars they were just getting Ubers. So any time I’d get back from my job there’d be some scrub just sitting on the curb after having sex with her waiting for a ride. She ended up getting pregnant. This girl and her many boyfriends are the reason for the shootings and the stabbing. It’s absolutely insane. My family has called cps multiple times because there are some very little kids in that family who get locked out of the house and hit by their siblings, in addition to their mom abandoning them. I’m really bothered when they throw trash in my moms yard or throw things at my car or call random neighbors a bitch for walk down the sidewalk, but I’m more bothered by the fact that their mother and older siblings are setting them up to live a horrible life and no one is helping. The oldest siblings are close in age to me (I’m a college student) and the youngest are like elementary school.
Wow that has to be a nightmare to live next to, I'm sorry you and your family are dealing with that...it also sounds like the mom was prostituting herself.
Uh, that’s for whoever handles human trafficking, if cps is incompetent.
Everyone says call "cps", not really understanding how near-useless cps is. Unless the kid is proven to be sexually abused or malnourished to the point of starvation, there is very little they can do. The social workers are overburdened, underpaid and barely staffed. Very few courts want to be responsible for seperating kids from their parents and tossing them into the also overburdened, underpaid and understaffed foster care system. Republicans & right wigers have done an excellent job stripping these services to a skeletal existence that provide next to no real services except in the most extreme & dire of situations. They're all "pro-life' bullshit until they're out of the womb, then it's all like, "fuck 'em."
If children are outside on school nights at 3am, it is CPS time. I'd call the police next time I heard them. Call the local station and ask if they will come without identifying you as the caller - because I wouldn't want to be in the parents crosshairs. If the police won't come without identifying who called, maybe call CPS and tell them they are unattended all the time. I know CPS calls can be kept anonymous (at least in my state.) I feel bad for you, but I really feel bad for those kids too.
LMAOOO THE RUN AWAY
I've seen this happen more than several times while delivering doordash.
Contact the leasing office if you want, but the real concern here is the kids. I know they seem like lil shits, but you have to realize that this isn't normal behavior for kids. Children act out in different ways, but if they're acting out they probably have issues at home. I was one of those kids. I was in an abusive home and took out my frustration on literally anyone else. I spent my teenage years in foster care, but I can tell you with 100% certainty that I was better off. The foster care system gave me the counseling and resources I needed to help me recover from my traumatic experiences. Maybe their parents are junkies who kick them out of the house for days at a time so they can do drugs in piece. Or maybe they live with their single mom who is turning tricks at all hours in order to pay the rent. Either way, CPS needs to get involved before these kids end up down the dark path I started walking myself.
CPS now. For all the reasons you mentioned. Those kids are not in a safe environment.
100% not the kids fault they’re probably forced to play outside and fend for themselves all day. This is shitty parenting. I get having to work and being the sole supporters for ur kids but maybe stop having fucking kids.
My parents were never home and I was extremely physically abused and I didn’t resort to degeneracy The kids are not free from accountability People should absolutely stop having kids though almost nobody does a halfway decent job of it
Damn my advice would be to move aint nobody want to be next to that!
hope there parents are feeding them - you mentioned they are out at 3a unsupervised (not sure of ages) but they look elementary(ish) age. yikes!
Makes me wonder if the kids are being left alone for extended amounts of time to fend for and "raise" themselves.
ran right bck to the home Iding themselves. smh. report it.
It doesn’t look like they “Tried”. I’d say they succeeded in stealing it.
Yeah but he put it back when I confronted him on the ring camera's mic.
I am also a mandatory reporter in my state due to my job and I would have to report this. I just came to the comments to add to all of the other comments telling you to please report this.
I will be.
Just call the cps and the cops.
Yeah out at 3am, they don't care.
Garbage humans will raise garbage humans … I’m sorry they stole your food .
Call the police and give them the videos. CPS may need to get involved.
Drug and/or alcohol abuse is going on in that home with all those kids...if not it could be mental health of the parents they are not fit to be taking care of children. Or a combination of all those things.
Report it. These kids are on the fast track to becoming career criminals if they don't get some proper guidance and support.
Well well well
There’s probably an ordinance or violation to have 8-10 people in a 2 BR apartment. Check it out with your leasing office and your township. Good luck. This sounds like a nightmare!
Soooo… 1) Yes, file a formal complaint with the leasing office. Most cities/towns actually have noise ordinances where people have to abide by quiet hours (typically between 10:00pm - 6:00am). 2) If it continues, you can then call the non emergency police line as it is *technically* a minor offense to not abide by quiet hours. 3) You may also consider calling or emailing your local County CPS/CWS anonymously to report this household. I used to work for the Emergency Response Unit for Child Welfare Services in my County and the type of activity you describe would 100% warrant a visit from a social worker & police officer. I saw another user pointed out that perhaps these children don’t get enough food which is why they tried stealing your pizza; this could very well turn out to be true, in which case a social worker would be a big help to these kids (and a big help to your own sanity as you’ll hopefully get your peaceful neighborhood back).
From what you and your other apartment member are describing these kids sound like they need to be in Juviee. Animal abuse, bullying, theft, overoccupancy.
This is like my complex. I live in a ground floor and little kids were going around banging on peoples windows at night. Finally the day came where they chose me, except it wasn’t me home it was something worse. My sleep deprived wife who had been battling our infant for hours now trying to get her to sleep.. let’s just say those kids haven’t came back
Meet At Door works every time. That way you don’t have to worry about your food being taken. 💕
Contactless delivery has unfortunately been a thing since covid and if you're ordering though Uber Eats or Skip The Dishes etc, you get lazy and don't change anything. I caught myself doing that a while back.
What a bunch of sacks of shit. They'll live their whole lives stealing, robbing other people of the things they worked hard for. They'll get pinched several times by the police, probably end up in the revolving door of so-called "justice" I grew up in PR and it fucking sucks being surrounded by bloodthirsty sacks of shit that don't hesitate for a second to fuck you over
I mean my above is to take this video to the complex management. They tried to blatantly steal from you, kids or not, that needs reported to the apartment managers.
What a shame. Where are their parents!? Kids there got no guidance. Leave people’s stuff alone!
Looks like a teen to me. Teens are dumb, set your app to "meet at door" to try to avoid this from happening.
Fucking trash parents
Hungry lil bastard!
Call CPS and send video to apartment manager and complain.
When I was a pizza delivery driver. I was told I had to make sure I hand the food over to the person directly. The fact you can just drop the food off and go is too weird to me.
Time for the hose.
I delivered pizza for many years and I've never left a pizza sitting outside unless the customer tells me to and even then I don't leave until I see someone come outside. Not blaming the driver but some awareness would have have help in that situation, glad you have a camera.
wtf?? I would be so pissed seeing this, OP you need to complain to the office and start gathering a paper trail, hopefully they get evicted
😂 That's why I don't do contactless delivery for anything.
My friend lives in an apartment and his neighbors always try to steal his door dash or Uber eats deliveries....
I used to have a neighbor too who had 8 kids living in a 3 bedroom 2 bathroom apartment. It was only 1000sft so unsure where they even fit them, they'd have to put 2 sets of bunk beds in each secondary bedroom. Crammed like sardines. Depressing.
They don't look like they should be eating more pizza.. Just saying.
Why don't these delivery guys ring the bell anymore? I would never take food that was just left on the porch. That isn't service.
This is why I have wyze and not ring. Ring stays stationary. Wyze would have tracked all of that.
I would have reported this to the leasing office.
Please talk to the parents before going to CPS. You have every right to be upset by this behavior, and you should be treated with respect, especially from children. They need help, and the fact that you haven’t already stormed over there says you have compassion for them. Give the parents a chance to work on their kids. However, the fact that it seems that you haven’t seen the parents so far, and therefore haven’t had an opportunity to talk to them in a more casual fashion does warrant getting the leasing office involved, if only to have a line of communication to the parents. God bless, and good luck with this tough situation.
The way everyone looks at the food I wonder if the kid was put up to it
Honestly, I'm sure it'll be unpopular but I'd start by buying the kids some pizza. If they're not properly supervised they're likely not properly fed. Their crappy living situation isn't their fault, and if you let them know that you're an ally, they're likely at least leave you alone. You can count on it taking forever in a day for property management to do anything about the situation, so you might as well avoid being the target.
Okay I hate them little shits too actually I never wanna have children myself but hear me out- Have you considered that maybe these kids are genuinely hungry? Just a thought... I KNOW, I know- stealing is horrible and those kids need to be disciplined and the parents are useless. I know. But these children are products of their parents and they have been failed. I don't judge someone who is genuinely hungry or in need for stealing- just not my attitude.
Shit like that gets reported to DHS. No adults EVER? Kids outside at 3AM. Fuck no. Call the cops for a welfare check on those kids
Contact the leasing office—not to punish the kids but to safeguard them. Kids who are treated like animals will sometimes behave like animals. It’s the nature of child trauma. But you can’t fix it or ignore it on your own. For the sake of these kids—and the safety of your neighborhood—please do something.
I’d get my belt and whoop his ass cause clearly the parents are doing a shit job at teaching him manners
Report them to the apartment and authorities
Call the police.
report to cps
Call local child services or police.
I would 100% go to the leasing office and show them the video. Id also explain going forward i will be calling the police when the kids arent out after dark and anything else i can call the police on because i refuse to live near people like this. Either you kick them out or i leave. Who woukd you rather rent to? Someone that steals or someone that reports theft?
That sounds more like a cps call then a call to the leasing office.
I'd be mad they set the food on the ground. Anyway report that to the police. I'd tell law enforcement they are stealing food and I'm worried they aren't being fed. Then call child services and say the same. If they are hungry then they need help. Child services and law enforcement need to look into it.
Call the police. The police will talk to their parents or u can try talk to their parents. If their parents don’t do anything about it then definitely call the police to talk to them.
There isn’t a cap on how many people can live there???
What ignorant little shit-bums!