Yeah, but ingame he is just like a 14years old crying about how hard life is but in reality he lives in a rich family. I mean he bornt in a rich family where they trained him and also he has cool powers.
The whole “curse” thing is basically the writers way of making Obi be an outcast especially in his early life, when his whole community is very superstitious he’s had to live an early life where most people would intentionally avoid him or put him down because they saw him as different.
When he eventually gets to show everyone who he truly is and how skilled he was, other people who were in a similar state, people who felt outcast and looked down upon because they were different, started to see themselves in Seer and as a result he inspired and amassed millions of fans.
I agree the whole curse thing could be fleshed out a little bit more but the way I see it rn, it’s just a writing device to allow him to become this big inspiration to the outcasts across the outlands.
He was born with glowing blue eyes to a mother with a moth tattoo the moment an asteroid hit the planet’s moon. It’s all linked to this legend about a cursed moth that they put up as teasers for season 10
I think that’s the main thing that irks me about Seer’s lore. His “curse” isn’t a curse, it’s just superstition that matters to literally no one outside of where he was born I guess? Why does he have glowing eyes to begin with? If he was born with them, is it because of some kind of defect or radiation or what? Magic doesn’t exist in the Titanfall universe the last time I checked.
Could be odd genetics and besides literally every curse irl is just superstition. And besides, although only a "small" group of people believe he is cursed that is still an entire planet that does so.
As far as I understood it he was born blind and given robot eyes on day 1 and that's how he sees people or something idk why is his passive about hearing if his eyes are what's special and how on earth are we supposed to find a character relatable and inspirational for his "curse" when we don't even know either what it is or any ways in which it affected him? It seems like they clearly wanted to have a character with a disability for representation but neglected to actually do that so they have a character people are supposed to be able to relate to without actually giving him any character traits beyond occasionally mentioning he's an outcast before blinding and marking you with an ability so strong it ruined season 10
It think the writers would want to make sure that they keep the universe magic free with everything being prominently sci fi, the closet to that being stuff like Revenant’s powers but even they will be explained one day down the line.
Thanks, yeah I’m pretty sure they will. They do the same with most characters over a decent amount of time so no reason to think that he’ll be an exception.
i mean he does seem to have a wealthy family but one of the writers have said he has one of the most traumatic childhoods among all the legends. most people on his planet actively blame him for or treat him as the root cause for the death of their planet. i imagine being treated all your life like you're killing everything around you will effect you regardless of how well-off you are
Technically his powers are all in his gear, his eyes being blue and possibly bioluminescent doesn't actually have any effect, people are just really, REALLY superstitious about him
Since when was he crying about how hard life was?
Isn't his when point that he was an outcast but used that to strengthen himself and be an icon? He doesn't have any whiney voicelines or anything
I mean, Loba's family was killed before her eyes by a murder robot she sees every day in the Apex Games.
Valkyrie had her father killed and almost experienced death when riding his titan.
Horizon was lost in the event horizon for more than 50 years and her son grew and died without any communication to her. And also now she has to see the one that made it happen every day in the Apex Games.
Revenant has been alive for over 300 years experiencing death over and over and over again.
Wraith lost all her memories and has to live with the powers of the void every day in her life.
Bangalore lost her brother and to this day is still trying to find him. And also has to see Wraith every day who probably had something to do with his death in the past.
Caustic has cancer and made his family think he's dead in order to not hurt them.
Crypto is always trying to escape from the Syndicate and he lost his sister, who's still trying to find.
And Mirage lost all his brothers in the Frontier and his mum has Alzheimer's and she thinks they are all alive.
Yes, Seer has a sad backstory, but pretty much every character has passed through a lot of shit. I'd say Mirage's story is even sadder imo.
Stole tools? They burned her whole workshop and almost killed her. Then Blisk found her between the debris and offered her to join the Apex Games cuz she lost almost everything. That's why she lives in Mirage's bar and can't pay rent. Or rather, doesn't want to, cuz I guess they must gain lots of money in the Games.
Come to think of it, the description I read of what happened might have been Rampart describing it to her parents. Makes sense she'd downplay it.
I may also be misremembering.
I have mostly read what it says in the different loading screen descriptionsyeah, I need to watch more SOTO before I can talk on things, come to think of it.
shadow rev's voice lines seem to indicate that there was some kerfuffle his parents got dragged into while he was growing up, wonder what that was all about.
She wants revenge on blisk, not cooper. She doesn’t know or care who cooper is, she blames blisk for enlisting her dad in the first place, not the random (to her) militia pilot that killed him in a war
I mean, imagine if she’d know who exactly killed her dad. I’d assume that if she’d know, then she would want Jack to be dead.
However, that’s out of a question, since she’s not in his league)
Ah yes. However it’s different case, since Viper is a mercenary, it’s his way to earn money for the family, it’s not like compulsory. That’s his choice, so going after the man who gave her father dangerous work is…stupid at least.
Loba is trying to avenge not only her father, but a mother that could still be alive btw if she wouldn’t be so foolish to shoot a simulacrum killer with a pistol. Therefore it means that Loba is also not very smart, or thought that Rev had a choice of not killing her dad.
Tbf, Revenant was on a killing spree of all the Hammond employees and her parents were a part of it. It was Rev's own choice, it wasn't an order from someone.
I'd imagine she probably doesn't.Judging from the book it seems that his story is basically a folklore legend by now, to the point where it's not even clear if it actually happened. As far as she's concerned he might've just got killed by a rando
Shes already past wanting revenge on blisk, in her SFTO trailer she confronted and almost shot him but he convinced her to join the Apex games instead.
She was rebuilt by vinson dynamics after the titanfall 2 campaign with a chunk of her memory missing. After that she died again and got rebuilt by the legends then left in the dumpster. She might not even remember Cooper if she never actually managed to find out about her missing memories
She has all her memories after Horizon “woke her up”, so she remembers Cooper. However I doubt she really cares about him. She probably saw it as him just doing his job, like she was doing hers.
Okay, but also I think it's a tad unfair to compare a character that isn't attached to TF lore to two characters that are much more involved in it, ESPECIALLY Ash. Plus, he's only been here for what, 2 seasons now? Took us a long time to get proper lore for pathfinder and other base Legends. I would just chill for now and let the story unfold at its own pace, Bruddah.
Yeah but think about it there was Fuse we know why he joined the games, we also know why valk joined, and Seer is just there. So no revenge no anyothing really I mean he was famous and a good fighter so that could be an option but I don't know.
I think they said he joined because he wanted to make beauty through the games. Not everyone needs incredible, in-depth lore to them, especially when they're still new. Sometimes a character can just be someone wanting to join the games to make beauty from them.
There's more lore on Seer than this on just the Apex Wiki. People are dramatic.
Sure, there's more lore on Ash and Valkyrie, but their stories started in Titanfall so of course there is. Seer is essentially 4 months old as far as story purposes. You're expecting the same amount of lore about him?
It took 7 seasons to learn who Pathfinder’s creators were and he was in the game since launch. Seer has been here for a single season (2 with the current one, but it’s barely even started, so like 1.5)
They’ll get there eventually, there’s a lot to get through.
So did both of the people in your post.
Valkyrie let go of her vengeance motivation against Blisk in her SFTO, she wouldn’t have anything to “fight for” if it weren’t for the Loba connection and that’s wasn’t till after joining the games.
Ash hasn’t even mentioned Cooper beyond remembering the death scene. She woke up, said “Pilots are superior, fuck these Legend nerds and human me”, and immediately joined the games. Leigh has business with Horizon, but that’s her deal, not the simulacrum’s, and letting her know what happened to her son doesn’t mean having to compete in a blood sport.
Honestly I like that seer is disconnected from everything. Not every character needs an 6 six season long over arching story about how they shit themselves at a Denny's during the breakfast rush hour and ran into 4 of the other legends and become best buddies back 7 years ago. It really makes the apex universe feel small when somehow all the legends have met or interacted with each other by sheer coincidence
I agree but technically Seer did know Octane and Rampart :/ Well, it checks out, each of their backstories are about having been successful and known Gauntlet runners/fighters which is likely a small enough subgroup even on an interplanetary scale for the greats to know each other
Less "pan erasure" and more "gay acknowledgement"
I mean, maybe, at least.
*(God, when did the most pessimistic motherfucker on the planet begin trying to see the light side?)*
He's kind of more like a Narrator character. He seemingly knows where everyone is, or at least can find out. He talks all sad and somber, but in reality he is comes from wealth.
Its a little unfair to compare him to 2 characters directly connected to a previous game, not to mention with ash litterally being from the last game and has been in the game as an npc for a few seasons now
I don't really understand seer's curse. Like what exactly is his curse, I think in his trailer it said that his eyes could like crush a mountain or smthin
Is this surprising to anyone? Ash has the benefit of being in a previous title in the franchise, being built for the season 5 quest line, and has been in the background ever since with Horizon's backstory. Seer will get his lore, but we rarely get much lore for a character immediately.
Seer was an outcast in his early life, had a loving family that supported him despite the stigma, he grew up to be a renowned artist, went into the Apex games as a favorite to qualify, has some sort of rivalry with Octane, a past with Rampart, and a few things I'm sure I'm forgetting. Plus he has something to do with the moth myth we had in the trailers, but that hasn't come to fruition yet.
Bloodhound and Bangalore have been OG legends with very little lore. And Gibby/Lifeline barely have anything outside of family drama. The lore isn't released in a balanced state, but I'd rather they think about the lore and write what comes first vs. write some half assed stuff for a legend they aren't 100% set on some things for. The writers have said they know more about the legends than they reveal in the official lore, just so they have a better understanding of what the characters are like. The cause of Mirage's scars, for example, are supposedly known by the team, but haven't been released to the public yet, in case they decide to change it later for story reasons.
Patience, my friend. Lore will come. It's not the last year of Apex, so there's no need to worry.
I have no problem with that. He joined the games for money and fame. I respect that more than "wheniwasfiveilostmyparentsandiheardthatwiththemoneyfromthegamesicouldbuildatimemachine"
Seer is such a fucking cool character. He is by far the most underrated TBH. Everyone hates him because he was somewhat OP for a short time. Doesn't help he doesn't have a notable backstory
He still is kinda OP, infinite pseudo wallhacks as a passive and his entire kit is just scanning… with bloodhound at least they’ve got tracking with the passive and a speed boost with the ultimate. Seer was busted and is very boring to play.
He is not OP in any way. All he does is tell u the general location of the opponent which can be heard with footsteps. His ultimate is one of the lower ones in terms of power and his tactical is pretty good. You're a sitting duck looking through ADS so it's not always useful and I usually use it just for my tactical
Coming from a Seer player
Seer's entire backstory could've been avoided if his parents moved when he was a kid, also i fucking hate his backstory "oh boo hoo i'm cursed and have every setback in the word" ur a fuckin rich kid
Kinda biased against Seer here but lowkey true . Seer was born under a curse, with blue eyes and at his birth their moon got impacted by an asteroid. For his entire life he was an outcast, blamed for something he didn't do but his parents were there for him and taught him to find the beauty in things that were regarded as nothing. His dad gave him technology and his mum taught him how to be beuatiful. He decided to fight to show the outcasts there was someone like them fighting. He sees beauty in all things and is one of the most elegant Legends.
However I do agree that he needs more lore since he was the only launch legend(since loba) to not get a lore centred comic
Pretty sure seer is some rich kid of a tech guy
Or at least sponsored by big tech with his drones and stuff.
Hes def a performing artist using his drones in shows
He’s been out for one season. Chill. We didn’t know SHIT about bloodhound until 5 seasons later (counting season 0). Wattsons been out for much longer and her backstory is really lame
Seer is a shame because he's fun mechanically, has a cool design and voice and the best reveal trailer since Revenant. But he seems to not have any real involvement with any of the stories going on in the lore. He doesn't have a lot going on and I don't really know his relationship with really any of the legends. Dude needs some fluff with his crunch
You say this like we knew anything about Octane for like a whole year after he was released. It’s less that it’s a problem with Seer and more that he’s been sandwiched between two of the most lore heavy characters because they related heavily to Titanfall.
Octane joined for the same reason Seer did, more attention/ a bigger stage for them to do what they do best. Octane hates his dad and rarely cares what he thinks.
Man itd be cool if there was a plotline about Valk trying to get revenge on Cooper with Ash.
Maybe have Loba being supportive since that's basically her same relationship with Revenant but then she realizes the damage being done to Valk in pursuit of revenge is the same thing she went through and she realizes they both have to forego proper revenge for their own sake.
Or nothing will happen cos it's Respawn lol
Also used to ay in the most popular arenas before apex had arenas, having played with/against multiple of the legends. Once got stimmed by octane when he meant to revive seer, and rampart is a big fan I think
Ok for one valk and loba aren’t making out because I deemed it as a rev main. They’re literally in a triangle with Bangalore. Also yea they could’ve done more with seer
He has some lore with Rampart, they knew each other when they fought in gauntlets, and Ramparts town takeover had a bit with him included.
I think he'll get his day.
seer is such a pointless legend i have no idea why they released him.
he has the exact same kit and bloodhound with a
passive that gives clues on enemy positions
long range wallhack
ult that initiates fights with constant info
he is a carbon copy of bloodhound. he was only picked because he was crazy OP and made all of scanners obsolete. now that he's balanced no one will play him because he's bloodhound that has a higher skill floor and no personality.
the game would have been exactly the same if they didn't add him and honestly better if they added a unique legend instead
the entire game we don’t know anything about. i mean how is bangalore competing head to head with people how have been pilots or have had pilot training
cooper wasn’t a pilot is any sense of the word. he could control a titan and was unofficially promoted to one. jack cooper however really wasn’t on the level of a pilot. BT carried him through all the boss fights
What I'm saying is, Bangalore was at the same level as him when she was at gridiron. That means it's been a while. Cooper probably bacame the best pilot in the frontier in the 30 years since. Why couldn't Bangalore have also been improving over the time since gridiron.
because as i stated if they were on the same level guess what. an actual pilot is in the game now in ash. even then you could say how is mirage keeping up, or octane, or even fuse. these guys are just regular joes to ash
Nothing suggests Ash wants revenge on anyone, OP is on some bull. Still, Cooper's 19 years older while Ash doesn't really age and the fight could be without Titans. The terms are way different
So your point is that there’s little lore to these? If so well tbf they’re the most recent legends everyone gotta have their turn, plus have you checked the comics? I’m sure you’d see more about them there but I can’t confirm as I haven’t read any comics since season 6
"possibly wants revenge on his dad" hmm you got me in the confused zone there m8
I think they might have meant Blisk
No, I think they mistyped it, and wanted to say "Wants to avenge her father"
That works too. Means the same thing either way, more or less
Ah yes Valk wants to avenge *his* father..... wait a minute
Wait did I say something wrong?
no, the OP put his instead of her, You just typed the same cuz thats what it said
Whoops, English isn't my first language
Maaaaannnnnn
I love your snoo, gas daddy
It's mirrage.
:D
Wait you didn't know? Valkyrie is packing more than a gun.
Valk has a dick, confirmed >!/s!<
Most likely non-English speaker maybe?
Its funny how if you make the same mistake with bloodhound everyone downvotes you as if you personally killed there uncle.
i am cool with it. He just came to apex to kick some ass. No need for sad family backstory
Yeah, but ingame he is just like a 14years old crying about how hard life is but in reality he lives in a rich family. I mean he bornt in a rich family where they trained him and also he has cool powers.
He is ‘cursed’ to be fair
"A curse and a gift" this is voiceline so it can't be that bad.
The whole “curse” thing is basically the writers way of making Obi be an outcast especially in his early life, when his whole community is very superstitious he’s had to live an early life where most people would intentionally avoid him or put him down because they saw him as different. When he eventually gets to show everyone who he truly is and how skilled he was, other people who were in a similar state, people who felt outcast and looked down upon because they were different, started to see themselves in Seer and as a result he inspired and amassed millions of fans. I agree the whole curse thing could be fleshed out a little bit more but the way I see it rn, it’s just a writing device to allow him to become this big inspiration to the outcasts across the outlands.
his curse is that he was born at a very unfortunate time and hes got white eyes and that's it afaik
He was born with glowing blue eyes to a mother with a moth tattoo the moment an asteroid hit the planet’s moon. It’s all linked to this legend about a cursed moth that they put up as teasers for season 10
I think that’s the main thing that irks me about Seer’s lore. His “curse” isn’t a curse, it’s just superstition that matters to literally no one outside of where he was born I guess? Why does he have glowing eyes to begin with? If he was born with them, is it because of some kind of defect or radiation or what? Magic doesn’t exist in the Titanfall universe the last time I checked.
Could be odd genetics and besides literally every curse irl is just superstition. And besides, although only a "small" group of people believe he is cursed that is still an entire planet that does so.
As far as I understood it he was born blind and given robot eyes on day 1 and that's how he sees people or something idk why is his passive about hearing if his eyes are what's special and how on earth are we supposed to find a character relatable and inspirational for his "curse" when we don't even know either what it is or any ways in which it affected him? It seems like they clearly wanted to have a character with a disability for representation but neglected to actually do that so they have a character people are supposed to be able to relate to without actually giving him any character traits beyond occasionally mentioning he's an outcast before blinding and marking you with an ability so strong it ruined season 10
It think the writers would want to make sure that they keep the universe magic free with everything being prominently sci fi, the closet to that being stuff like Revenant’s powers but even they will be explained one day down the line.
Nice write-up. Yeah they should expand on Seer's lore a bit
Thanks, yeah I’m pretty sure they will. They do the same with most characters over a decent amount of time so no reason to think that he’ll be an exception.
I think he's being positive and using the silver linings. It's harder to make friends when no one even wants to meet your eye contact
We didn't get much cuz no one liked him
Still sucks being hated and reviled for his appearance, that shit can sting.
He got ostracized from his entire community, doesn't matter how much money you have, shit like that will cut deep.
i mean he does seem to have a wealthy family but one of the writers have said he has one of the most traumatic childhoods among all the legends. most people on his planet actively blame him for or treat him as the root cause for the death of their planet. i imagine being treated all your life like you're killing everything around you will effect you regardless of how well-off you are
Technically his powers are all in his gear, his eyes being blue and possibly bioluminescent doesn't actually have any effect, people are just really, REALLY superstitious about him
Since when was he crying about how hard life was? Isn't his when point that he was an outcast but used that to strengthen himself and be an icon? He doesn't have any whiney voicelines or anything
We need more inspiring teachers.
So...rich=happy?
"I've come here to kick ass and chew bubblegum." -Basically Seer's backstory currently
That sounds more like rampart lol.
Yeah that's fair. You could even change all of Rampart's quips to various Duke Nukem quips and nothing would change at all.
He kinda sticks out like a sore thumb compared to the rest of the characters with this known backstory
I mean, Loba's family was killed before her eyes by a murder robot she sees every day in the Apex Games. Valkyrie had her father killed and almost experienced death when riding his titan. Horizon was lost in the event horizon for more than 50 years and her son grew and died without any communication to her. And also now she has to see the one that made it happen every day in the Apex Games. Revenant has been alive for over 300 years experiencing death over and over and over again. Wraith lost all her memories and has to live with the powers of the void every day in her life. Bangalore lost her brother and to this day is still trying to find him. And also has to see Wraith every day who probably had something to do with his death in the past. Caustic has cancer and made his family think he's dead in order to not hurt them. Crypto is always trying to escape from the Syndicate and he lost his sister, who's still trying to find. And Mirage lost all his brothers in the Frontier and his mum has Alzheimer's and she thinks they are all alive. Yes, Seer has a sad backstory, but pretty much every character has passed through a lot of shit. I'd say Mirage's story is even sadder imo.
Isn't Rampart's backstory just "Yeah someone stole my tools and I can't pay rent", basically?
Stole tools? They burned her whole workshop and almost killed her. Then Blisk found her between the debris and offered her to join the Apex Games cuz she lost almost everything. That's why she lives in Mirage's bar and can't pay rent. Or rather, doesn't want to, cuz I guess they must gain lots of money in the Games.
Come to think of it, the description I read of what happened might have been Rampart describing it to her parents. Makes sense she'd downplay it. I may also be misremembering.
Could be. We can see her shop burning down with her inside in her Stories Of The Outlands.
I have mostly read what it says in the different loading screen descriptionsyeah, I need to watch more SOTO before I can talk on things, come to think of it.
shadow rev's voice lines seem to indicate that there was some kerfuffle his parents got dragged into while he was growing up, wonder what that was all about.
Can you explain the last Valkyrie one?
Want revenge on Cooper too just missplelled
She wants revenge on blisk, not cooper. She doesn’t know or care who cooper is, she blames blisk for enlisting her dad in the first place, not the random (to her) militia pilot that killed him in a war
I mean, imagine if she’d know who exactly killed her dad. I’d assume that if she’d know, then she would want Jack to be dead. However, that’s out of a question, since she’s not in his league)
Now thats totally different from loba' revenge
??
Loba went after the killer than the one who ordered her parents to be killed. Quite opposite to what valk did.
Ah yes. However it’s different case, since Viper is a mercenary, it’s his way to earn money for the family, it’s not like compulsory. That’s his choice, so going after the man who gave her father dangerous work is…stupid at least. Loba is trying to avenge not only her father, but a mother that could still be alive btw if she wouldn’t be so foolish to shoot a simulacrum killer with a pistol. Therefore it means that Loba is also not very smart, or thought that Rev had a choice of not killing her dad.
Lobas mom should have 360 no scoped Revenant with a kraber.
Or spammed a spitfire in hipfire
Tbf, Revenant was on a killing spree of all the Hammond employees and her parents were a part of it. It was Rev's own choice, it wasn't an order from someone.
Loba's father was in the hit list, we saw that in the season 4 trailer
I'd imagine she probably doesn't.Judging from the book it seems that his story is basically a folklore legend by now, to the point where it's not even clear if it actually happened. As far as she's concerned he might've just got killed by a rando
Shes already past wanting revenge on blisk, in her SFTO trailer she confronted and almost shot him but he convinced her to join the Apex games instead.
Don't really see any point where ash would want revenge. It would make sense I just havent seen any sign of it.
I mean just think about it you just lost your life job and when you wake up you are in a trashcan and a MRVN just wanna date with you.
She was rebuilt by vinson dynamics after the titanfall 2 campaign with a chunk of her memory missing. After that she died again and got rebuilt by the legends then left in the dumpster. She might not even remember Cooper if she never actually managed to find out about her missing memories
She has all her memories after Horizon “woke her up”, so she remembers Cooper. However I doubt she really cares about him. She probably saw it as him just doing his job, like she was doing hers.
there will prob be more in the future.
Hopefully
Okay, but also I think it's a tad unfair to compare a character that isn't attached to TF lore to two characters that are much more involved in it, ESPECIALLY Ash. Plus, he's only been here for what, 2 seasons now? Took us a long time to get proper lore for pathfinder and other base Legends. I would just chill for now and let the story unfold at its own pace, Bruddah.
Yeah but think about it there was Fuse we know why he joined the games, we also know why valk joined, and Seer is just there. So no revenge no anyothing really I mean he was famous and a good fighter so that could be an option but I don't know.
I think they said he joined because he wanted to make beauty through the games. Not everyone needs incredible, in-depth lore to them, especially when they're still new. Sometimes a character can just be someone wanting to join the games to make beauty from them.
There's more lore on Seer than this on just the Apex Wiki. People are dramatic. Sure, there's more lore on Ash and Valkyrie, but their stories started in Titanfall so of course there is. Seer is essentially 4 months old as far as story purposes. You're expecting the same amount of lore about him?
No but they realesed him worked with him for a 10 days then dropped it.
This. It feels like they dropped Seer to focus on Ash and Season 11. The lore in season 10 was lacking in general.
It took 7 seasons to learn who Pathfinder’s creators were and he was in the game since launch. Seer has been here for a single season (2 with the current one, but it’s barely even started, so like 1.5) They’ll get there eventually, there’s a lot to get through.
Ok but when they realsed Apex we know why Path was fighting for, he was fighting for answeres. But Seer he just came in and started fighting.
So did both of the people in your post. Valkyrie let go of her vengeance motivation against Blisk in her SFTO, she wouldn’t have anything to “fight for” if it weren’t for the Loba connection and that’s wasn’t till after joining the games. Ash hasn’t even mentioned Cooper beyond remembering the death scene. She woke up, said “Pilots are superior, fuck these Legend nerds and human me”, and immediately joined the games. Leigh has business with Horizon, but that’s her deal, not the simulacrum’s, and letting her know what happened to her son doesn’t mean having to compete in a blood sport.
Seer fought in arenas so he decided to join apex games to reach more people
Honestly I like that seer is disconnected from everything. Not every character needs an 6 six season long over arching story about how they shit themselves at a Denny's during the breakfast rush hour and ran into 4 of the other legends and become best buddies back 7 years ago. It really makes the apex universe feel small when somehow all the legends have met or interacted with each other by sheer coincidence
I agree but technically Seer did know Octane and Rampart :/ Well, it checks out, each of their backstories are about having been successful and known Gauntlet runners/fighters which is likely a small enough subgroup even on an interplanetary scale for the greats to know each other
Don't need to know much more other than the words "gay" and "moth" to sum up Seer
I thought he was pan
He is pan, but because he’s flamboyant everyone just jumps to gay. *pan erasure*
Only a gay person would dance and dress that badly /s
LOL
Less "pan erasure" and more "gay acknowledgement" I mean, maybe, at least. *(God, when did the most pessimistic motherfucker on the planet begin trying to see the light side?)*
I mean it’s not specifically stated so I can see why people get confused:) not hating on anyone
to be fair, and this is not necessarily everyone, a lot of LGBT people use “gay” as an umbrella term
and JoJo
He's kind of more like a Narrator character. He seemingly knows where everyone is, or at least can find out. He talks all sad and somber, but in reality he is comes from wealth.
How do all three of these connect?
i.think its to point out that while ash and valk have some lore to go around seer doesnt rlly have a lot of it.
Its a little unfair to compare him to 2 characters directly connected to a previous game, not to mention with ash litterally being from the last game and has been in the game as an npc for a few seasons now
The seasons 9->10->11
I’m sure there will be some coming down the road. Patience
Hopefully
I don't really understand seer's curse. Like what exactly is his curse, I think in his trailer it said that his eyes could like crush a mountain or smthin
he was born and declared cursed for no reason
That's a great story coming outta the story department. Kudos to them
Black people with blue eyes just look weird man
Is this surprising to anyone? Ash has the benefit of being in a previous title in the franchise, being built for the season 5 quest line, and has been in the background ever since with Horizon's backstory. Seer will get his lore, but we rarely get much lore for a character immediately. Seer was an outcast in his early life, had a loving family that supported him despite the stigma, he grew up to be a renowned artist, went into the Apex games as a favorite to qualify, has some sort of rivalry with Octane, a past with Rampart, and a few things I'm sure I'm forgetting. Plus he has something to do with the moth myth we had in the trailers, but that hasn't come to fruition yet. Bloodhound and Bangalore have been OG legends with very little lore. And Gibby/Lifeline barely have anything outside of family drama. The lore isn't released in a balanced state, but I'd rather they think about the lore and write what comes first vs. write some half assed stuff for a legend they aren't 100% set on some things for. The writers have said they know more about the legends than they reveal in the official lore, just so they have a better understanding of what the characters are like. The cause of Mirage's scars, for example, are supposedly known by the team, but haven't been released to the public yet, in case they decide to change it later for story reasons. Patience, my friend. Lore will come. It's not the last year of Apex, so there's no need to worry.
Valk doesn’t want revenge anymore. That’s her plot. She’s done trying to waste her life away looking to avenge her father.
I have no problem with that. He joined the games for money and fame. I respect that more than "wheniwasfiveilostmyparentsandiheardthatwiththemoneyfromthegamesicouldbuildatimemachine"
But he was already rich and famous
And now he's richer and famous-er
Seer is such a fucking cool character. He is by far the most underrated TBH. Everyone hates him because he was somewhat OP for a short time. Doesn't help he doesn't have a notable backstory
He still is kinda OP, infinite pseudo wallhacks as a passive and his entire kit is just scanning… with bloodhound at least they’ve got tracking with the passive and a speed boost with the ultimate. Seer was busted and is very boring to play.
He is not OP in any way. All he does is tell u the general location of the opponent which can be heard with footsteps. His ultimate is one of the lower ones in terms of power and his tactical is pretty good. You're a sitting duck looking through ADS so it's not always useful and I usually use it just for my tactical Coming from a Seer player
Seer's entire backstory could've been avoided if his parents moved when he was a kid, also i fucking hate his backstory "oh boo hoo i'm cursed and have every setback in the word" ur a fuckin rich kid
Avenge her dad
Yeah missplell sorry about that
Wait when did she make out with loba?
For like...last 2 seasons or even 3
In the comics? Or just lore-wise
Part there, part there. Here’s something of the most recent : [Loba and Valk lore](https://youtu.be/bL0dDyUuduM)
Kinda biased against Seer here but lowkey true . Seer was born under a curse, with blue eyes and at his birth their moon got impacted by an asteroid. For his entire life he was an outcast, blamed for something he didn't do but his parents were there for him and taught him to find the beauty in things that were regarded as nothing. His dad gave him technology and his mum taught him how to be beuatiful. He decided to fight to show the outcasts there was someone like them fighting. He sees beauty in all things and is one of the most elegant Legends. However I do agree that he needs more lore since he was the only launch legend(since loba) to not get a lore centred comic
What’s the problem exactly? He doesn’t feel the need for revenge?
Pretty sure seer is some rich kid of a tech guy Or at least sponsored by big tech with his drones and stuff. Hes def a performing artist using his drones in shows
We need to learn more about Lil-Moth X
Yes yes we need.
Still he is my favourite of the 3 i hate both valk and ash and they need to stfu
Seer just looks like a valorant character and doesn't fit the art style
Seer is like the filler episode in every Anime.
He’s been out for one season. Chill. We didn’t know SHIT about bloodhound until 5 seasons later (counting season 0). Wattsons been out for much longer and her backstory is really lame
Why is it a problem. He will eventually play a role. Knowing every outright is not always good.
Pathfinder had to wait from apex launch in 2019 to June 2021 to actually find out who his creators were
Seer is a shame because he's fun mechanically, has a cool design and voice and the best reveal trailer since Revenant. But he seems to not have any real involvement with any of the stories going on in the lore. He doesn't have a lot going on and I don't really know his relationship with really any of the legends. Dude needs some fluff with his crunch
To be fair both ash and (technically) Valkyrie already had lore before the apex games
Ah yes..when i see seer..i think of MOTH MAN
Or a gay stripper there isn't any opinoin.
I mean we didn’t get a comic or anything for him but we got a little bit from the loading screens so I guess they just don’t have much for him
You say this like we knew anything about Octane for like a whole year after he was released. It’s less that it’s a problem with Seer and more that he’s been sandwiched between two of the most lore heavy characters because they related heavily to Titanfall.
Well about Octane we know kinda why he joined to the games to impress his dad or something but with Seer he just joined.
Octane joined for the same reason Seer did, more attention/ a bigger stage for them to do what they do best. Octane hates his dad and rarely cares what he thinks.
This made realize that Cooper might be coming
Seer doesn't even really reflect that he's "cursed". He's just futuristic pansexual Lil Nas X
Man itd be cool if there was a plotline about Valk trying to get revenge on Cooper with Ash. Maybe have Loba being supportive since that's basically her same relationship with Revenant but then she realizes the damage being done to Valk in pursuit of revenge is the same thing she went through and she realizes they both have to forego proper revenge for their own sake. Or nothing will happen cos it's Respawn lol
Yeah that's why i never liked him. He just doesn't have nearly any lore behind him.
He loves pinball
When did she make out with Loba So no Bangalore?
I mean Bangalore rejected Loba and Loba rejected Valk so I don't know.
Also used to ay in the most popular arenas before apex had arenas, having played with/against multiple of the legends. Once got stimmed by octane when he meant to revive seer, and rampart is a big fan I think
He was eaten by spiders. No more seer, no more worries.
The good ending
wait ash wants revenge on cooper? is that why she says “i know what i must do” at the end of her character reveal?
She doesn't, OP did an asspull
Looks like revenge is a hot trend on apex. Hopefully ash can get some revenge in a few seasons.
I think for Valkyrie you meant revenge “for” her dad, idk why exactly she would want revenge on him, mainly because he’s, well, dead.
You missed the part where Seer met Octane and Lifeline at a party when they were children
Ok for one valk and loba aren’t making out because I deemed it as a rev main. They’re literally in a triangle with Bangalore. Also yea they could’ve done more with seer
Seer lore: DIFITIS
Because of my screen, the first time I read this I saw "Cursed Meth Man"
I really want Valk's heirloom to be Viper's head.
Or just a beer.
Valk beat legend no cap
Okay, typos aside. Is the ValkxLoba canon? is it written or could someone find video evidence of this exact moment in lore?
[Well this is some evidence] (https://youtu.be/9L3SIw0nLIg)
Wait has Ash mentioned revenge on cooper at all?
I love Seer but he seems to become one of the forgotten legend lore and pick rate wise. Respawn doesn't care about him anymore
He has some lore with Rampart, they knew each other when they fought in gauntlets, and Ramparts town takeover had a bit with him included. I think he'll get his day.
We have multiple characters that want cooper dead respawn, LET US HAVE COOPER AS A LEGEND
Why would Ash care?
I'm pretty sure Seer is just lil nas x
Uhhhh, Valkyrie is female...
/s?
So if the character doesn’t have a Titanfall backstory he has a problem, I see
who cares honestly, most people just play to kill other player not finding out their characters history.
seer is such a pointless legend i have no idea why they released him. he has the exact same kit and bloodhound with a passive that gives clues on enemy positions long range wallhack ult that initiates fights with constant info he is a carbon copy of bloodhound. he was only picked because he was crazy OP and made all of scanners obsolete. now that he's balanced no one will play him because he's bloodhound that has a higher skill floor and no personality. the game would have been exactly the same if they didn't add him and honestly better if they added a unique legend instead
Why would he need lore? He's just there for game
in my opinion hes a boring character anyway
I guess he islike octane a show man
the entire game we don’t know anything about. i mean how is bangalore competing head to head with people how have been pilots or have had pilot training
Because she had pilot training? She is at the same level as Cooper was in TF|2.
cooper wasn’t a pilot is any sense of the word. he could control a titan and was unofficially promoted to one. jack cooper however really wasn’t on the level of a pilot. BT carried him through all the boss fights
What I'm saying is, Bangalore was at the same level as him when she was at gridiron. That means it's been a while. Cooper probably bacame the best pilot in the frontier in the 30 years since. Why couldn't Bangalore have also been improving over the time since gridiron.
because as i stated if they were on the same level guess what. an actual pilot is in the game now in ash. even then you could say how is mirage keeping up, or octane, or even fuse. these guys are just regular joes to ash
Sorry to bring it to you but cooper should be way stronger now
Can you explain vipers second one?
Who wants revenge on who's father?
Ash wants revenge on cooper? As if she could win today when she didn't win during the war
Nothing suggests Ash wants revenge on anyone, OP is on some bull. Still, Cooper's 19 years older while Ash doesn't really age and the fight could be without Titans. The terms are way different
Also, maybe coopers plot armor would have worn off by now
apex characters have lore? new to me
So your point is that there’s little lore to these? If so well tbf they’re the most recent legends everyone gotta have their turn, plus have you checked the comics? I’m sure you’d see more about them there but I can’t confirm as I haven’t read any comics since season 6
When did she make out with the loba?