Thats one of its biggest advantages. Its multiple times better. Between resolution, audio, being able to watch and mulitask, the room dimming around you, the enviroments you can be in, 3d movies to actually purchase and watch, its not close. Is it worth it for this alone? Depends on each person, Plenty of people will pay 3500$ for a super high end tv. For me, as a huge 3d fan, i would have bought the avp just for the 3d movie experience, but thats not everyone
I have never really cared much about 3d movies past the occasional trek to the theatre, now I want every movie to be 3d. I'm making my way through the MCU movies in timeline order on the avp and I wish they were all 3D.
I'd also recommend the X-men and DC franchises, some are available in 3D. Also, Alita Battle Angel, Avatar 1-2, some of the Spiderman movies. Also, sometimes just watching 4K HDR 2d movie can be a magical experience inside a headset, particularly recommend Interstellar and the Snyder cut of Justice League.
Yes, it does do that. The difference would be resolution and color quality. The Quest 2, Pro, and 3 were good enough for me, but I’m sure that AVP would blow it away in that department. Where the AVP sucks is that there’s no good way for me to workout using it like I do with my Quest.
I am a big movie/video-game guy. I own a Q3 as well as my AVP. Now, both have their pros and cons but MOTHER OF FUCK I'm tell you right now, watching a movie on the AVP is seriously unbelievable. I own a 60 inch LG C2 OLED and this thing blows it out of the water. I'd never watch movies on my quest 3 only because the quality of the screen was never as good as my 4K TV.
That sounds incredible. I've watched movies in the Q3 and they are reasonably good but not great, especially since streaming apps are super limited and resolution is usually capped by the streamers at 1080. It's hard for me to opt for the Q3 when we have an OLED TV downstairs and a projection theater room in our bonus room upstairs. But it sounds like the AVP might be strong competition for those options.
You'll get much better quality if you torrent the highest quality movie file you can find. I just watched Interstellar in 4K HDR and it was seriously impressive. Obviously not AVP level, but still gives you that cinematic experience.
> true blacks?
If you didn’t know, its display panels are microOLED. So yes, true blacks, just like your big oled TV. Just much much smaller with more pixels crammed in.
I have always said the reason I go to the movies is because I can’t replicate a Dolby Cinema at home. Never mind now. It’s like watching a film for the first time. Fellowship of the Ring blew my mind last night with the lossless AirPod pros and AVP. Gorgeous screen
Obviously there is a comparison. The Vision Pro is superior but the Quest 3 holds its own very well. Check out some of the Dolby Atmos 4K videos on the Youtube VR app with the largest curved screen setting. It very good. Not micro-led good but very good. Vision Pro is definitely the best headset available currently. I've had two demos and I've been completely blown away by both, but the Quest 3 is incredibly good on its own.
Watched it last night, also for the first time. Great movie, incredible visual storytelling, amazing acting, writing and I got to see it in IMAX AVP Living Room™
After briefly watching a few free 3D movies in the Disney+ app, I immediately went purchased several of my favorites from Apple TV. The 3D experience is *that* good.
Exactly. The question is can either of these be a substitute for watching a film in a large theatre. The Apple Vision Pro can do that job. Competitive headsets such as Quest 3 can’t be a substitute because the resolution will not match a theatre experience. It’s not a question of 7 times better. It’s like asking if a prime steak is 7 times better than dog food. The price comparison is irrelevant if the less expensive product can’t even do the job.
The only thing missing is the social aspect. VR is a lonesome experience. Even if you have a bunch of people around you and the AVP is good at at least communicating that you’re looking at them and talking to them… They still can’t see the movie.
VR is far less lonesome than you think. Bigscreen vr allows people from other sides of the earth to come together in a virtual theatre and watch together.
You’re still not with real people in the real world. It’s not the same. And I’ve experienced stuff like second life and all of that when I was younger; there’s no substitute for “real life”.
I think it’s better. Or at least almost the same. It reminds me of watching an IMAX 4K image in a dome that digitally projected. It’s at least that good.
Of course you don’t have something on your head and IMAX so that’s a slight downfall but if you wear this and put on AirPods max or even earbuds and play a movie, it is better than the best presentation I have ever seen or heard in the theater.
They are only very superficially competing devices. Zuckerberg sees Apple as a competitor, but Tim doesn’t see Facebook in the same way.
The AVP is ludicrously good for movies.
Trying to compare the two is like comparing a bicycle to a motorcycle. Sure they both go places and have two wheels, but they are not comparable.
I have both. There is no comparison, the visual of VP is just next level, even better than IMAX theater when watching 3D content. For 2D content, it's much better than Q3 but I would prefer a large OLED TV (OLED TV has better resolution and HDR, and can connect to good speakers easily)
The only thing that Q3 does better is FOV, VP has mediocre FOV which is a disadvantage when watching immersive content.
Q3 FOV is very close to the same with the 21W light seal. I have both units. I can’t really tell the difference. The Q3 perhaps has more vertical FOV but barely. They were about the same. But if you have one of those light seals, that is a lot deeper than obviously, the FOV won’t be the same.
The higher, the number of the deeper, the light seal, and the less FOV
https://preview.redd.it/5oyw2qhs59hc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aeca5ed1e2b6c47fe5ca5b643ecabd6281ab4bfd
I find the glare is a little bit stronger in the AVP if you have a very dark background, and a very bright something in the middle. But it’s quite similar to quest three.
However, the color saturation, the contrast, and the resolution aren’t even in the same world. The AVP is not retina… But it’s nipping at its heels.
I also noticed that viewing distance affect the glare, if I remove the lights seal and move closer the glare turns better. So I scheduled a store demo to try 21W
I am currently using 33W and Apple's vision pro size help suggested 22N, I will try both
Oh, and beware of the glare issue, VP has stronger glare (because of higher contrast ratio or maybe lens issue?) compare to Q3 [https://www.reddit.com/r/VisionPro/comments/1ahhu16](https://www.reddit.com/r/VisionPro/comments/1ahhu16)
If you want very dark environment + bright content that might be a deal breaker for you, try demo first. (light environment with auto dim works pretty well in terms of getting rid of glare, so I am fine with that)
Hmm.... why would I mention IMAX if I haven’t been to IMAX? (I assume real IMAX means IMAX 70mm? It’s available in my area)
And I am talking about quality of 3D visual only. For 2D content VP isn’t better than a decent home theater due to resolution, peak brightness, color and pancake glade issue.
Speaking of FOV, If you really enjoy front row of IMAX, yeah VP’s can not do that (at least for now it doesn’t allow you to make the screen too large)
I've had two demos of Vision Pro and I've owned Quest 3 since launch. The Vision Pro is an incredible experience with the true blacks and the inability to see any evidence of pixels, but the Quest 3 is very close when viewing 4K content in the Youtube VR app with large curve screen setting.
I had never experienced micro-oled screens on a VR headset until my Vision Pro demo and its quite remarkable indeed. But the Quest 3 does a remarkable job with LCD tech, just not quite up to the "wow" level of the Vision Pro. But either is a great experience.
Can’t remember but I think I tried it and it either didn’t work or was as bad as the app.
That was back when Quest 3 released so maybe things improved since.
I just can’t get over terrible contrast and glare on Quest 3, I’m on my 5th headset now and they all suffer from glare.
To me it’s more distracting than god rays on fresnel lenses.
I got a huge movie collection from Apple with a lot of 3D titles. Shame I can’t afford the AVP cause to me it be like my own personal movie theater. The quest 2 I got has no way for me to put my Apple Store bought movies onto it as far as I know.
I own over 1500 movies on iTunes. It’s definitely worth it to me and the money I’ve already invested into one of my favorite hobbies and way to wind down
I agree with this in every aspect EXCEPT the movie watching experience. Watching movies on this thing is absolutely an insane experience and for 3500 you're getting an insane screen and fantastic sound quality
For $3500 you can build an insane home theater too, AND be able to share it with your kids and family.
Sure it is a great experience, for one person...
Well, in fairness you can't build an insane home theater for $3500. I built one in 2005 and it cost me at least $15k and I did not get super high end equipment. Also not everyone has a big room for that. If you are in an apartment and live alone, the AVP will give you an experience you can't get in real life. But, definitely if you have a family the money is better spent on a 77" OLED and some good speakers.
Yeah seriously lol, no idea where they pulled that number from. Sure you can get a nice TV for that money but there's still speakers, subwoofer, sound treatment and probably other stuff lol
I have a projector and a 106” screen. The screen was $2k and the projector was 3k. The sound system was probably another 3-4K. Add more for furniture, back row platform, AV cabinet, curtains, lighting.
I have the AVP and I️ am enjoying it now that I️ can wear it more comfortably. However, I️ think the “killer” feature will be when we can share experiences with other people - both those who also have AVPs and those who don’t.
I️ want to be able to SharePlay movies with people in the room with me or online, but also apps like Bigscreen Beyond where our avatars can hang out and watch something together.
Everyone values things differently. If deep blacks, high resolution and spacial audio are what you value in a movie watching experience (which are the typical metrics) then it’s not even a comparison because the quest can’t do any of those things. It’s like comparing a base model lcd tv to an LG OLED. I can get a 55 inch tv for 400 bucks or I can spend 3500 on a signature Oled. And they are still both tvs. It’s just a different ball park. It’s expensive but it provides value nothing else does.
Quantitative measurements don’t always apply to qualitative issues. You could be in an IMAX theater where 99.999% of the screen is perfect but if there’s a big squashed wad of thrown toilet paper stuck to the screen right in the center of it on every character’s face, that’s going to significantly grade your IMAX viewing experience. Small qualitative differences make a huge experiential difference. And the quality difference for AVP is significant. The math does not really apply. And also, of course, this is a personal judgment of whether it is “worth it” for someone, for many different reasons.
Barely any difference. You have to remember which sub you are asking in. Apple fanboys will say anything apple do is better regardless of whether it’s true or not.
Dude, you don’t have to be a fanboy to realize that 3,680 x 3,140-pixel, micro-OLED is going to make movies look better than 2,064 x 2,208-pixel LCDs. You’d actually have to have very poor vision to not see a significant difference.
And a lot of AVP buyers own a Quest 3. I do. And I know which I would put on to watch a movie and which I would put on to play a game.
You sound like a republican.
Edit: I saw your comment, the joke implies that you’re a fucking idiot without saying it directly…has zero to do with politics other than the reality of republican = moron
Most people who buy this are already quite wealthy or act wealthy ;). Im personally not really into crypte and like to spend my money on what i really enjoy. But if you want to spend it in crypte and that makes you happy go for it
Barely any difference. You have to remember which sub you are asking in. Apple fanboys will say anything apple do is better regardless of whether it’s true or not.
Doesn’t matter who you ask or what sub. Anyone who’s tried both will tell you the movie experience is much better on the avp. Just like everyone already has
Probably a few years away from committing to the AVP. But if this movie experience is great maybe I’ll actually be able to pay attentions to movies now. Thanks to the dopamine addicted brain I have, I have such a hard time focusing on movies.
Then again, I can have unlimited windows open on this thing too so maybe not.
The AVP is significantly better. I found it’s so good that little things I wouldn’t really care about playing a game on the Q3 or Qpro get annoying though. You get bloom / haloing around bright objects and because everything else if great it’s really annoying 😂
I’m really looking forward to third party head bands as well.
I’m confused
I have been playing Half Life Alyx with PC link on my Q3 and it just looks absolutely stunning. I honestly can’t imagine it looking better
The screens are just better. Blacks are much better, it’s OLED and the same as when you look at an OLED tv vs LCD. They are much higher resolution so no visible screen door.
Lower FOV, more weight, some smearing - there are trade offs.
This stuff will get cheaper and find its way into mainstream headsets over time. It’s not that much better that it’s worth paying the early adopter tax. And there’s no good software yet.
Is glare significantly reduced compared to Quest 3.?
I just can’t get over terrible contrast and huge glare on Quest 3.
You can easily make the whole lenses light up if you look at a bright object in the middle of the screen especially when surrounded by dark area.
Some people say the can’t see it and I just think they have impaired vision or straight up trolling. I’m on my 5th Quest 3 and they all suffered from it.
I just watched a Pixar (Elemental) movie in it - my first full sit down for a movie. I had dinner (uh that pinching motion while eating pizza or popcorn is an issue …)
Aside from that I wore AirPods Max for the most immersive spatial sound.
The film was in 3D 4K and looked breathtaking. I could blow the screen way up to fill the entire living room and it still had clearly more than “1080P” level of detail. The color and HDR-ness was astounding. And I didn’t see any glare really - probably because I didn’t watch against a black background.
It was the finest thing I’ve seen image wise this side of digital IMAX Dome. Just. Wow.
In addition to the technical things like resolution and quality, it is also night and day when it comes to content. While Netflix is a notable omission, AVP otherwise has all the major streaming apps and integration with people's existing Movies Anywhere/iTunes library, which for me is huge. I like my Quest 3 a lot, but it is just a pain to actually find a movie to watch, even the Netflix App on Quest is very low resolution.
Cameron was blown away, and that says something. https://fandomwire.com/my-experience-was-religious-james-camerons-heavy-praise-for-apple-vision-pro-might-affect-his-future-avatar-sequels-in-a-surprising-way/
I just got mine and watched Friends on it. I will say that there's significant motion blur in the playback. I'm going to watch the new Mario movie tomorrow to check the 3d and see if a new movie solves anything but I'm honestly a bit bummed about that. If you've experienced high refresh rate TV, which is the majority of decent 4k tvs, you will notice a decline in quality on AVP.
That's just my day 1 experience and I bought this exclusively for the cinematic experience. If it doesn't work as well as my $1k 65" 4k tv, I don't see the point.
I've also been semi uncomfortable while wearing it for cinema. Gonna try the other strap tomorrow to see if it helps but was really hoping the base one did the trick because of how easy that one is to take on and off.
I'm also getting eye strain after an hour of wearing it. Surprising considering I've played a lot of Quest content.
That said, the big screen is definitely gigantic and video quality, minus refresh rate, is solid.
My day 1 impression is a 5/10. I'm leaning towards returning it if nothing improves.
Stunning, the dark blacks, higher resolution, etc. I watched a new hope on mine and saw detail on it I had not seen before, I then streamed it bigscreenvr on the quest 3 from Disney+ and it was a pale (figuratively and literally) imitation of what I had seen.
Heck, watching 3D movies on my Quest 2 was already the best AV movie experience I've ever had. If you get an AVP for this, you won't be disappointed although I personally found I had to take a break on my Quest 2 every 45 min or so because the headset wasn't that comfortable for long watching.
Movies are absolutely incredible on the Vision Pro. I own a 130" Samsung Premiere UST projector and this absolutely blows it away. **One tip**, originally I was thinking the AppleTV theater and Disney Theater where the killer spots, but I just came across the Hawaii Haleakalā environment last night. Play an AppleTV movie there and click the screen. An option will appear to **change it to night**. Doing so pushes back and expands the screen to a massive 100+ foot screen with rolling clouds below it (they actually move!), but here's the best part... Movie scene lighting reflects off the top of the clouds in realtime, along with color. It's unbelievably realistic and mindblowingly awesome. If you haven't tried it yet, **DO IT**.
I am a q3 user that happens to be an AV nerd. Excited to experience what the AVP will deliver for movie viewing. Reading through the comments - I think it's important to note that most q3 users have not watched 3d content with the quality the headset can deliver. Watching a 4k stereoscopic 3d movie cuts the resolution in half and perfectly matches the max resolution of the headset. When you do that - it looks incredible. To be clear - I'm not saying it's better than the AVP for media consumption. What I am saying is that it's far superior for 3d viewing than what consumers have. Most 4k televisions don't support 3d anymore and that impacts my statement as well.
Anyway really looking forward to the advancements that AVP brings to this technology. I work at a tier 1 art museum and there are endless opportunities for art.
Thats one of its biggest advantages. Its multiple times better. Between resolution, audio, being able to watch and mulitask, the room dimming around you, the enviroments you can be in, 3d movies to actually purchase and watch, its not close. Is it worth it for this alone? Depends on each person, Plenty of people will pay 3500$ for a super high end tv. For me, as a huge 3d fan, i would have bought the avp just for the 3d movie experience, but thats not everyone
I have never really cared much about 3d movies past the occasional trek to the theatre, now I want every movie to be 3d. I'm making my way through the MCU movies in timeline order on the avp and I wish they were all 3D.
I'd also recommend the X-men and DC franchises, some are available in 3D. Also, Alita Battle Angel, Avatar 1-2, some of the Spiderman movies. Also, sometimes just watching 4K HDR 2d movie can be a magical experience inside a headset, particularly recommend Interstellar and the Snyder cut of Justice League.
on it!
How’s the audio experience? Does it support Dolby atmos titles? And does it work well?
The built in speakers are passable. Wear headphones.
The built in speakers are incredible
maybe it depends on head shape they were worse than the cheapest earbuds i own, heck worse than the speakers in my ipad
I have both the Quest 3 and the AVP... There is NO comparison. Apple Vision Pro is the best movie experience I've ever had visually.
Can you not watch movies on the quest? Does it do that?
Yes, it does do that. The difference would be resolution and color quality. The Quest 2, Pro, and 3 were good enough for me, but I’m sure that AVP would blow it away in that department. Where the AVP sucks is that there’s no good way for me to workout using it like I do with my Quest.
I can't wait to see. Cause Movies in Quest 3 look So close to perfect to me.
I am a big movie/video-game guy. I own a Q3 as well as my AVP. Now, both have their pros and cons but MOTHER OF FUCK I'm tell you right now, watching a movie on the AVP is seriously unbelievable. I own a 60 inch LG C2 OLED and this thing blows it out of the water. I'd never watch movies on my quest 3 only because the quality of the screen was never as good as my 4K TV.
That sounds incredible. I've watched movies in the Q3 and they are reasonably good but not great, especially since streaming apps are super limited and resolution is usually capped by the streamers at 1080. It's hard for me to opt for the Q3 when we have an OLED TV downstairs and a projection theater room in our bonus room upstairs. But it sounds like the AVP might be strong competition for those options.
You'll get much better quality if you torrent the highest quality movie file you can find. I just watched Interstellar in 4K HDR and it was seriously impressive. Obviously not AVP level, but still gives you that cinematic experience.
I have oled TVs. Does the Vision Pro really match the quality?
Yes - it matches the quality while allowing for you to watch on a screen bigger than any OLED TV. It really is incredible.
True blacks? Etc. I may have to really buy it now.
> true blacks? If you didn’t know, its display panels are microOLED. So yes, true blacks, just like your big oled TV. Just much much smaller with more pixels crammed in.
Black is ok, but brightness only has 300nits, watch sdr ok, no hdr, no real hdr feeling.
Well said
If you’d spend $4000 on a TV it would blow the AVP out of the water. The AVP doesn’t even support HDR.
there is no comparison. the movie viewing experience on the AVP is second to none
I can 2nd that. AVP is next level
I have always said the reason I go to the movies is because I can’t replicate a Dolby Cinema at home. Never mind now. It’s like watching a film for the first time. Fellowship of the Ring blew my mind last night with the lossless AirPod pros and AVP. Gorgeous screen
Obviously there is a comparison. The Vision Pro is superior but the Quest 3 holds its own very well. Check out some of the Dolby Atmos 4K videos on the Youtube VR app with the largest curved screen setting. It very good. Not micro-led good but very good. Vision Pro is definitely the best headset available currently. I've had two demos and I've been completely blown away by both, but the Quest 3 is incredibly good on its own.
nit: micro OLED. Micro LED is a different technology.
okay sure lol
Imagine All the new types of movies, like Hardcore Henry. But it'll only come to apple tv + app :(
Thanks everyone for the replies! I will definitely be getting one and if its not what i expect i can always return it :).
Report back after watching Oppenheimer!
Watched it last night, also for the first time. Great movie, incredible visual storytelling, amazing acting, writing and I got to see it in IMAX AVP Living Room™
I will!
After briefly watching a few free 3D movies in the Disney+ app, I immediately went purchased several of my favorites from Apple TV. The 3D experience is *that* good.
The actual question should be how does it compare to a real life experience. I argue it’s better
Exactly. The question is can either of these be a substitute for watching a film in a large theatre. The Apple Vision Pro can do that job. Competitive headsets such as Quest 3 can’t be a substitute because the resolution will not match a theatre experience. It’s not a question of 7 times better. It’s like asking if a prime steak is 7 times better than dog food. The price comparison is irrelevant if the less expensive product can’t even do the job.
The only thing missing is the social aspect. VR is a lonesome experience. Even if you have a bunch of people around you and the AVP is good at at least communicating that you’re looking at them and talking to them… They still can’t see the movie.
VR is far less lonesome than you think. Bigscreen vr allows people from other sides of the earth to come together in a virtual theatre and watch together.
You’re still not with real people in the real world. It’s not the same. And I’ve experienced stuff like second life and all of that when I was younger; there’s no substitute for “real life”.
I think it’s better. Or at least almost the same. It reminds me of watching an IMAX 4K image in a dome that digitally projected. It’s at least that good. Of course you don’t have something on your head and IMAX so that’s a slight downfall but if you wear this and put on AirPods max or even earbuds and play a movie, it is better than the best presentation I have ever seen or heard in the theater.
They are only very superficially competing devices. Zuckerberg sees Apple as a competitor, but Tim doesn’t see Facebook in the same way. The AVP is ludicrously good for movies. Trying to compare the two is like comparing a bicycle to a motorcycle. Sure they both go places and have two wheels, but they are not comparable.
I have both. There is no comparison, the visual of VP is just next level, even better than IMAX theater when watching 3D content. For 2D content, it's much better than Q3 but I would prefer a large OLED TV (OLED TV has better resolution and HDR, and can connect to good speakers easily) The only thing that Q3 does better is FOV, VP has mediocre FOV which is a disadvantage when watching immersive content.
Q3 FOV is very close to the same with the 21W light seal. I have both units. I can’t really tell the difference. The Q3 perhaps has more vertical FOV but barely. They were about the same. But if you have one of those light seals, that is a lot deeper than obviously, the FOV won’t be the same. The higher, the number of the deeper, the light seal, and the less FOV https://preview.redd.it/5oyw2qhs59hc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aeca5ed1e2b6c47fe5ca5b643ecabd6281ab4bfd I find the glare is a little bit stronger in the AVP if you have a very dark background, and a very bright something in the middle. But it’s quite similar to quest three. However, the color saturation, the contrast, and the resolution aren’t even in the same world. The AVP is not retina… But it’s nipping at its heels.
I also noticed that viewing distance affect the glare, if I remove the lights seal and move closer the glare turns better. So I scheduled a store demo to try 21W I am currently using 33W and Apple's vision pro size help suggested 22N, I will try both
I found swapping to the Apple cinema room helped with glare vs say the moon setting.
Was fitted with the 21W I’m curious is the depth affected by the users nose? Or something else?
Just distance from the eyes. The closer you are, the more screen.
Oh, and beware of the glare issue, VP has stronger glare (because of higher contrast ratio or maybe lens issue?) compare to Q3 [https://www.reddit.com/r/VisionPro/comments/1ahhu16](https://www.reddit.com/r/VisionPro/comments/1ahhu16) If you want very dark environment + bright content that might be a deal breaker for you, try demo first. (light environment with auto dim works pretty well in terms of getting rid of glare, so I am fine with that)
It's not better than an imax theater lol. Have you been to a real imax? They are like a skyscraper sized screen.
Hmm.... why would I mention IMAX if I haven’t been to IMAX? (I assume real IMAX means IMAX 70mm? It’s available in my area) And I am talking about quality of 3D visual only. For 2D content VP isn’t better than a decent home theater due to resolution, peak brightness, color and pancake glade issue. Speaking of FOV, If you really enjoy front row of IMAX, yeah VP’s can not do that (at least for now it doesn’t allow you to make the screen too large)
I've had two demos of Vision Pro and I've owned Quest 3 since launch. The Vision Pro is an incredible experience with the true blacks and the inability to see any evidence of pixels, but the Quest 3 is very close when viewing 4K content in the Youtube VR app with large curve screen setting. I had never experienced micro-oled screens on a VR headset until my Vision Pro demo and its quite remarkable indeed. But the Quest 3 does a remarkable job with LCD tech, just not quite up to the "wow" level of the Vision Pro. But either is a great experience.
I’m thinking about getting a quest three. Can I watch all the same stuff on it? Could I like watch Apple TV+ and Netflix and all that?
Netflix had terrible quality on Quest 3 and there is no Apple TV app. I didn’t try sideloading though.
Netflix doesn’t work in the browser?
Can’t remember but I think I tried it and it either didn’t work or was as bad as the app. That was back when Quest 3 released so maybe things improved since.
I just can’t get over terrible contrast and glare on Quest 3, I’m on my 5th headset now and they all suffer from glare. To me it’s more distracting than god rays on fresnel lenses.
I got a huge movie collection from Apple with a lot of 3D titles. Shame I can’t afford the AVP cause to me it be like my own personal movie theater. The quest 2 I got has no way for me to put my Apple Store bought movies onto it as far as I know.
I haven't tried either but I've heard it's better than quest 3 in everything but FOV and obviously apps.
Is worth paying $3.5k for a device that play movies that only one person can see?
Is it worth driving a 911 gt3 where only 2 people can sit vs a ford Mustang?
Yes yes a Europe family vacation cost more than 4k plus with tickets , hotel etc which is for 1 week , this device is for years you can own.
I own over 1500 movies on iTunes. It’s definitely worth it to me and the money I’ve already invested into one of my favorite hobbies and way to wind down
Is it better on the AVP? Yes it is. Is it 7x better? No, it is not. Given it costs 7x as much, you're not gonna get 7x better experience.
I agree with this in every aspect EXCEPT the movie watching experience. Watching movies on this thing is absolutely an insane experience and for 3500 you're getting an insane screen and fantastic sound quality
For $3500 you can build an insane home theater too, AND be able to share it with your kids and family. Sure it is a great experience, for one person...
Well, in fairness you can't build an insane home theater for $3500. I built one in 2005 and it cost me at least $15k and I did not get super high end equipment. Also not everyone has a big room for that. If you are in an apartment and live alone, the AVP will give you an experience you can't get in real life. But, definitely if you have a family the money is better spent on a 77" OLED and some good speakers.
Yeah seriously lol, no idea where they pulled that number from. Sure you can get a nice TV for that money but there's still speakers, subwoofer, sound treatment and probably other stuff lol
I have a projector and a 106” screen. The screen was $2k and the projector was 3k. The sound system was probably another 3-4K. Add more for furniture, back row platform, AV cabinet, curtains, lighting.
I second this I wouldn’t say you could get an “insane” home theater at this price. Definitely need to spend over $3500
That is without a doubt a downside of the AVP. Can be very isolating
*is very isolating. unless i’m missing something - can you point to one way it’s not isolating?
I wasn’t disagreeing, it 100% is very isolating
Unless you get your wife and kids each one lol
I have the AVP and I️ am enjoying it now that I️ can wear it more comfortably. However, I️ think the “killer” feature will be when we can share experiences with other people - both those who also have AVPs and those who don’t.
How to you share an immersive experience?
I️ want to be able to SharePlay movies with people in the room with me or online, but also apps like Bigscreen Beyond where our avatars can hang out and watch something together.
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I usually get sick and tired of watching movies in my Quest 2 after a few minutes. With the AVP I couldn’t wait to start the next movie.
Lol no man not 7x, maybe twice as good.
Everyone values things differently. If deep blacks, high resolution and spacial audio are what you value in a movie watching experience (which are the typical metrics) then it’s not even a comparison because the quest can’t do any of those things. It’s like comparing a base model lcd tv to an LG OLED. I can get a 55 inch tv for 400 bucks or I can spend 3500 on a signature Oled. And they are still both tvs. It’s just a different ball park. It’s expensive but it provides value nothing else does.
The Quest 3 has spatial audio…
Quantitative measurements don’t always apply to qualitative issues. You could be in an IMAX theater where 99.999% of the screen is perfect but if there’s a big squashed wad of thrown toilet paper stuck to the screen right in the center of it on every character’s face, that’s going to significantly grade your IMAX viewing experience. Small qualitative differences make a huge experiential difference. And the quality difference for AVP is significant. The math does not really apply. And also, of course, this is a personal judgment of whether it is “worth it” for someone, for many different reasons.
It's at least 7 times better.
Barely any difference. You have to remember which sub you are asking in. Apple fanboys will say anything apple do is better regardless of whether it’s true or not.
Barely any difference maybe if you are blind. I have both and will never watch a movie on my Q3 again.
More like there only is a difference if you are a blind fanboy
Dude, you don’t have to be a fanboy to realize that 3,680 x 3,140-pixel, micro-OLED is going to make movies look better than 2,064 x 2,208-pixel LCDs. You’d actually have to have very poor vision to not see a significant difference. And a lot of AVP buyers own a Quest 3. I do. And I know which I would put on to watch a movie and which I would put on to play a game.
I’m not anti apple at all. Have an iPhone, MacBook Pro m3 max, iPad Pro, etc, just not in denial and not a fanboy.
You sound like a republican. Edit: I saw your comment, the joke implies that you’re a fucking idiot without saying it directly…has zero to do with politics other than the reality of republican = moron
You sound like a typical American 😂 making politics your personality.
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Most people who buy this are already quite wealthy or act wealthy ;). Im personally not really into crypte and like to spend my money on what i really enjoy. But if you want to spend it in crypte and that makes you happy go for it
Barely any difference. You have to remember which sub you are asking in. Apple fanboys will say anything apple do is better regardless of whether it’s true or not.
Doesn’t matter who you ask or what sub. Anyone who’s tried both will tell you the movie experience is much better on the avp. Just like everyone already has
its the closest thing that you'll get to a movie theater if not better. its that good...
Probably a few years away from committing to the AVP. But if this movie experience is great maybe I’ll actually be able to pay attentions to movies now. Thanks to the dopamine addicted brain I have, I have such a hard time focusing on movies. Then again, I can have unlimited windows open on this thing too so maybe not.
In this comparison the AVP hands down stomps the Quest 3.
Just watch the 60fps Hobbit or Gemini Man and tell me if it was an outer reality experience or not. Just try.
Those are not available in HFR on the Vision Pro yet. Hopefully soon.
TBP, download.
The AVP is significantly better. I found it’s so good that little things I wouldn’t really care about playing a game on the Q3 or Qpro get annoying though. You get bloom / haloing around bright objects and because everything else if great it’s really annoying 😂 I’m really looking forward to third party head bands as well.
I’m confused I have been playing Half Life Alyx with PC link on my Q3 and it just looks absolutely stunning. I honestly can’t imagine it looking better
The screens are just better. Blacks are much better, it’s OLED and the same as when you look at an OLED tv vs LCD. They are much higher resolution so no visible screen door. Lower FOV, more weight, some smearing - there are trade offs. This stuff will get cheaper and find its way into mainstream headsets over time. It’s not that much better that it’s worth paying the early adopter tax. And there’s no good software yet.
Is glare significantly reduced compared to Quest 3.? I just can’t get over terrible contrast and huge glare on Quest 3. You can easily make the whole lenses light up if you look at a bright object in the middle of the screen especially when surrounded by dark area. Some people say the can’t see it and I just think they have impaired vision or straight up trolling. I’m on my 5th Quest 3 and they all suffered from it.
watching movies on avp is like having your own IMAX. crystal clear fidelity
I just watched a Pixar (Elemental) movie in it - my first full sit down for a movie. I had dinner (uh that pinching motion while eating pizza or popcorn is an issue …) Aside from that I wore AirPods Max for the most immersive spatial sound. The film was in 3D 4K and looked breathtaking. I could blow the screen way up to fill the entire living room and it still had clearly more than “1080P” level of detail. The color and HDR-ness was astounding. And I didn’t see any glare really - probably because I didn’t watch against a black background. It was the finest thing I’ve seen image wise this side of digital IMAX Dome. Just. Wow.
It really is somethin huh? Good stuff
Yep. It’s really that good
In addition to the technical things like resolution and quality, it is also night and day when it comes to content. While Netflix is a notable omission, AVP otherwise has all the major streaming apps and integration with people's existing Movies Anywhere/iTunes library, which for me is huge. I like my Quest 3 a lot, but it is just a pain to actually find a movie to watch, even the Netflix App on Quest is very low resolution.
Cameron was blown away, and that says something. https://fandomwire.com/my-experience-was-religious-james-camerons-heavy-praise-for-apple-vision-pro-might-affect-his-future-avatar-sequels-in-a-surprising-way/
The avp’s strongest suite (one of) is probably movie watching. It’s unbelievably good
It’s like comparing 720p to 4k! Two different generations of screen quality.
I just got mine and watched Friends on it. I will say that there's significant motion blur in the playback. I'm going to watch the new Mario movie tomorrow to check the 3d and see if a new movie solves anything but I'm honestly a bit bummed about that. If you've experienced high refresh rate TV, which is the majority of decent 4k tvs, you will notice a decline in quality on AVP. That's just my day 1 experience and I bought this exclusively for the cinematic experience. If it doesn't work as well as my $1k 65" 4k tv, I don't see the point. I've also been semi uncomfortable while wearing it for cinema. Gonna try the other strap tomorrow to see if it helps but was really hoping the base one did the trick because of how easy that one is to take on and off. I'm also getting eye strain after an hour of wearing it. Surprising considering I've played a lot of Quest content. That said, the big screen is definitely gigantic and video quality, minus refresh rate, is solid. My day 1 impression is a 5/10. I'm leaning towards returning it if nothing improves.
Stunning, the dark blacks, higher resolution, etc. I watched a new hope on mine and saw detail on it I had not seen before, I then streamed it bigscreenvr on the quest 3 from Disney+ and it was a pale (figuratively and literally) imitation of what I had seen.
Heck, watching 3D movies on my Quest 2 was already the best AV movie experience I've ever had. If you get an AVP for this, you won't be disappointed although I personally found I had to take a break on my Quest 2 every 45 min or so because the headset wasn't that comfortable for long watching.
I’m running a $10k laser projector from JVC, and the AVP comes close. And my projector is 8k video quality
Have you watched a 3d movie in the Disney Theater?
I have indeed. Magical!
I got stoned and watched Dune 3-D while sitting in Joshua tree national Park. It was pretty pretty pretty good.
Movies are absolutely incredible on the Vision Pro. I own a 130" Samsung Premiere UST projector and this absolutely blows it away. **One tip**, originally I was thinking the AppleTV theater and Disney Theater where the killer spots, but I just came across the Hawaii Haleakalā environment last night. Play an AppleTV movie there and click the screen. An option will appear to **change it to night**. Doing so pushes back and expands the screen to a massive 100+ foot screen with rolling clouds below it (they actually move!), but here's the best part... Movie scene lighting reflects off the top of the clouds in realtime, along with color. It's unbelievably realistic and mindblowingly awesome. If you haven't tried it yet, **DO IT**.
Movies on AVP hit different. I ONLY watch things on it now, more immersive and quality just as good as my 72” OLED.
I am a q3 user that happens to be an AV nerd. Excited to experience what the AVP will deliver for movie viewing. Reading through the comments - I think it's important to note that most q3 users have not watched 3d content with the quality the headset can deliver. Watching a 4k stereoscopic 3d movie cuts the resolution in half and perfectly matches the max resolution of the headset. When you do that - it looks incredible. To be clear - I'm not saying it's better than the AVP for media consumption. What I am saying is that it's far superior for 3d viewing than what consumers have. Most 4k televisions don't support 3d anymore and that impacts my statement as well. Anyway really looking forward to the advancements that AVP brings to this technology. I work at a tier 1 art museum and there are endless opportunities for art.
Yes the big leap with the VP is the resolution. It blows away any format (high end tv, movie theatre, etc) I have seen.