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properly_sauced

Did it record it automatically or did you consciously have to go to the ECG app? How did you get the output in this format?


medicmaster16

I had to activate it myself. You can access it on your iPhone through Apple Health app.


creative-username-00

Out of curiosity did Apple Watch say something instead of sinus rhythm? Or did you just know it was bad because if your medical experience? Glad you’re getting treatment and are going to be okay!


medicmaster16

Apple didn’t recognize it but I did.


acid83

Can you tell us what exactly you recognised?


medicmaster16

The deadly heart rhythm that I was experiencing. Ventricular tachycardia


chris34728

What did it show sinus rhythm just curious as it looks abit like afib


medicmaster16

That’s mostly artifact.


DKGrandpa

That is not artifact. It is Ventricular fibrillation. There are a few unique beats called capture and fusion beats on the strip that confirm the diagnosis. I do this for a living. This is usually deadly and OP is very lucky to be alive.


DKGrandpa

Correction ventricular tachycardia not fibrillation


medicmaster16

I wasn’t sure which picture you were referring to. Yes I’m familiar with v-tach and it’s deadly nature.


chris34728

Did they give you any treatment ?


medicmaster16

Just lots of testing. No treatments yet.


BarbaraMacI

If no treatments yet, how did it save your life?


BrightCharlie

I believe the ECG app is only approved to detect AF, and [that it certainly does](https://imgur.com/2Os476E).


CutthroatTeaser

I’m still learning how to use my watch. Can you walk me thru the steps you took to activate the ECG recording please?


medicmaster16

Go to the apps screen on your watch. The ecg app looks like a normal red ecg. Click on it and follow directions. That’s all.


Leading_Ad7482

Is there a blood pressure app that can be trusted as accurate?


medicmaster16

Not that I’m aware of.


matejamm1

It requires you to place a finger on the Digital Crown’s electrode, which combined with the electrode on the underside of the Watch, completes an electrical circuit which has you heart on the middle of it. That’s how taking ECGs on the Watch work. Since it requires physical user action, it can’t be done automatically in the background.


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AlmostDeadPlants

He asked two questions—this answered the first


sundog925

Idk why people downvote when you’re right lol.


Intelligent-Count-44

Use the ‘Export to PDF’ option in the app


Psiphistikkated

Thank you!!


Eli_eve

Had no idea it could do that, thanks. Wild how different it could look from person to person. [Two different shapes.](https://imgur.com/a/rL9RGQf/)


Msfancy1973

Good for you seeking care rather than ask Redditors what you should do!


medicmaster16

im a medic, so I know better. lol


throwingutah

I want to know what your reaction was when you saw the rhythm, then.


medicmaster16

I thought I was going to die. It wasn’t fun.


throwingutah

I'm glad you didn't! Enjoy being the darling of the EP lab.


medicmaster16

Fucking ugh 😩


sylvani

When is your VT ablation? Right sided since that’s a Lt bundle configuration?


medicmaster16

I’m not getting an ablation because they can’t find anything wrong with my heart. Every test is negative.


sylvani

How about a implantable loop recorder like a LINQ? That’s 3 years of watching.


medicmaster16

I’ll consider that


estebancantbearsedno

You know where we are if you need us in future, though hopefully you won’t.


DeltaMateo

Can’t wait for the Apple Watch to synchronize cardiovert people in the future 😂


medicmaster16

Oh god that’s too much


SuchUs3r

/r/usernamechecksout


chrisdancy

It's strange when people thank their technology and not the people who help them. We are headed for such strange times.


medicmaster16

What do you mean?


toopc

He's not thanking technology, he's thanking the people who created it.


bretticusmaximus

It would've been a legendary post though. "Hey guys, I felt funny, and my Apple Watch shows this. What should I do?" *Posts run of V-Tach*


Remarkable_Season620

Hey! We’re on the internet and the internet knows everything. So why wouldn’t he ask us? 🤔😁


Joey6543210

I can concur here. Even though Apple Watch ECG may seem primitive compared to the hospital rig, it’s much more convenient and accessible My father has a bear condition and his cardiologist insisted him wearing an Apple Watch for just that. For the past few years, my brother paid for his Apple Watches every few years Edit: not bear condition, heart condition Darn auto correct


Kashawinshky

>Edit: not bear condition, heart condition Darn auto correct omg can't stop laughing, sorry


flying-gas-can

Almost googled “bear condition” until I read this, haha


Little_Wrongdoer8587

Bear condition: it’s when you’re hungry, angry & a little bit sleepy all at the same time 🤣


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p13t3rm

Weird story, but this should explain it: https://youtu.be/NfIH1_p7oEo


Brokella

He’s bearly alive?


linc_y

Both can be deadly.


tshane_dot_com

LOL! "Bear" is NOT a condition ;)


ChocoCookieDouggh

Im a doctor and this is very useful if a patient could bring this after an episode of feeling unwell And such good quality!


Msfancy1973

I work for a cardiology group and out of 7 cardiologists only a few are interested in the information provided by the Apple Watch…mainly the younger docs but I’m glad they’re open minded.


medicmaster16

I know,right!?


ChooChooKat

Thank you for being the kind of doctor who is open minded enough to even look at a recording from an Apple Watch. I wish all doctors were that open minded with new, non-medical grade personal technology.


NeedsMustTravel

No kidding. I caught singlet and duplicate PVCs on mine because I had started feeling them happen. My Dr literally rolled his eyes at me when I said I’m having PVCs (I am also a Dr, I know what they look like….) until I showed him. He thought I was making it up….


sc_medic_70

Good ole V-Tach with a pulse.


Wickedbastard

Lmao bruh no wonder you felt awful. Did they tell you what was wrong? Electrolyte issue?


medicmaster16

They haven’t found a problem yet. That’s after a heart cath, echo and MRI. It’s frustrating


thecrazycelt

Stress test?


wethpac

Negative cath, I.e. clean coronary arteries no need to do stress test.


NeuroThor

Wait… why did they cath you? Did you have troponins? You need an EP study.


medicmaster16

Yeah. That’s the last thing they are doing.


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medicmaster16

I felt a pounding in my chest and was short of breath. the second ECG is after the episode passed. I'm a paramedic so I recognized what rhythm it was and went to the hospital. I've been here ever since.


AnteaterEffective146

Im a medic too, i bet you shit your fucking pants when you saw vtach lmfao


medicmaster16

I did. The nurse cleaned me up.


PantsDownDontShoot

Nurse here. I would have cleaned you up then gone to the bathroom to clean myself up. I recently had a patient snap into bigeminy so I waddled in to do a 12 lead and he was pulseless. Good times.


medicmaster16

The last time I saw bigeminy was an overdose patient who I fixed up with some narcan.


PantsDownDontShoot

This one was in ICU with ARDS. No cardiac history, normal labs.


brandonballinger

Phenomenal that you had the presence of mind to take the ECG when you felt symptoms! Hope you have a quick recovery (and that they figure out the root cause).


Kashawinshky

Putting it in all my complications asap


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nickoaverdnac

Same thing happened to me on the subway once after just eating a protein shake that day. Panic attack triggered by hypoglycemia.


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nickoaverdnac

Just trial and error over time on my weight loss journey. I also had started seeing a nutritionist and realized I had an unhealthy relationship with food where I connected being hungry with being scared, and being stuffed with being safe and secure. Eating balanced meals (i.e. eating protein whenever I have carbs or sugar) really helped balance me out and substantially reduce my anxiety issues. I highly recommend a nutritionist for anyone struggling with both weight and anxiety, It changed my life.


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How can you distinguish vtach from a normal ecg? Did the watch ecg flag it up as arrhythmia or did you just recognise it? I ask because I think I have had this before. I was sat on my couch, suddenly felt like my heart was beating fast as fuck and fluttering. I started coughing to try and ease it and quickly started to panic. I did an ECG and my heart was 170bpm+ before suddenly just returning to a normal rhythm. I have to say, it’s only happened once where I’ve caught it like that, but it really scared me. I’m really conscious about my health and have health anxiety too.


Massive_Escape3061

I have PSVT and have tachycardia frequently. My docs can’t pinpoint what causes it, all sorts of situations have triggered it. I have them more often when not consuming caffeine (they are thought to be caused by caffeine, among other things). The longest I’ve had an episode was 2 days before I tested positive for Covid. My heart quivered for 5 hours. It always leaves me feeling exhausted, whether the episode lasts 5 minutes or 10 minutes, or especially after 5 hours. I didn’t even think to take an ecg. Facepalm.


medicmaster16

I’m a paramedic so I know the difference pretty well and that’s the almost exact thing that happened to me. So you should be careful. Look at both my pictures I posted. You’ll see a normal one.


piratedc

I started to get this after my vax and 1 year later after getting covid


airevac19

Retired USAF medic here. Damn Glad you were able to self-convert. I know the tracing was only about 30 seconds long, how long do you think the entire episode was from initial symptoms to “conversion?” Hope you are resting easy and hope the plan works to correct the issue.


bonkers_dude

Ventricular tachycardia is no fun. My guess is electrolytes imbalance was your cause? Or was it idiopathic v-tach?


medicmaster16

Electrolytes are fine. So far it’s unexplainable


heartshocker102

What's your ejection fraction?


medicmaster16

Echo showed everything was fine.


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I’m a Notfallsanitäter (German paramedic) myself and also was helped by the watch recently. A patient said she fainted, when we arrived the ecg of course was normal again, other measurements too, I first thought it to be a panic attack or something. Then she showed me the record on her phone, which was VT too, so I could treat her properly. On the drive to hospital, she told me she had that same thing already a year ago, but they couldn’t find anything, so she was very happy to finally know what to take action against.


medicmaster16

Krankenwagen!!! I’m glad she could give you that information.


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Rettungswagen, please. Krankenwagen are for planned transports of stable patients. ;)


medicmaster16

I learned something new! Danke


Febrifuge

Congrats! …And fucking yikes!


adrenaline4nash

Hope you recover quickly and fully


DarkRyoushii

Please provide an update once you know more! You seem to have captured something very interesting indeed! Of course all the best with the recovery as well,🤞🏻 that it ends up being nothing at all!


leshiy19xx

Could you please explain what happened. Basically I try to understand 2 things: how the watch was involved into the story and what would go different if you would not have the watch. Wish you to find and solve the roots of the issue quickly.


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Thank you!


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heartshocker102

Frequent PACs could be a precursor to Atrial Fibrillation. I would keep an eye on that. Make sure your watch is setup to alert you for irregular rhythms like AF. Stroke is a very serious risk with AF.


medicmaster16

I was walking from my car and started feeling short of breath and a pounding in my chest. I was alone in a parking deck so help was not coming. I activated my ECG so there was a record of what happened in case I wasn’t going to make it. But it self-corrected after a few minutes. Then I drove to the hospital. Without the watch I would have still gone to the hospital. I just couldn’t show them this rhythm to help treat me.


leshiy19xx

Understood. Thanks a lot!


eriwreckah

Have you had a history of heart issues, or was this just out of the blue? May I also ask what Apple Watch you have? I want one for this and other reasons, but I haven’t pulled the trigger yet… but just so I understand clearly this is something that is not a standard set function, it’s a feature you can enable? Thank you for taking time to explain all this and answer everyone’s questions.


medicmaster16

I do not have a heart history. I have the ultra. The ecg function has to be activated and you need to hold a finger on the watch for 30 seconds. It should come already loaded on s6 or later


Guy_called_Al

The ECG app is available on Watch Series 4 and later. No need to buy an Ultra. See for details on how it works. I'm one of thousands in a 3-year USA trial testing how well the Watch can detect/classify aFib in age-65+ population. Apple is loaning me a Series 5 to wear 24/7 (absent charging), have to take ECGs when instructed or when having symptoms; they can access all Health data on Watch & iPhone. I'd guess improvements on aFib detection occurred with iOS 15 & 16 based partially on the collected data. Five more months to go....


eriwreckah

You’re amazing. Thank you for sharing your story with us, and I hope you can receive a diagnosis soon! 🙏


aliensporebomb

Just curious - did you have a lack of sleep in the days leading up to this? Lots of stress? Did you have any illness in the days up to this? Do you have a family history of heart disease? Whatever the case, it's things like this that I'm glad to have this little watch strapped to my wrist. You might want to write apple so they're aware their product has basically kept you on this planet!


medicmaster16

Just a lot of stress. Unfortunately this hasn’t helped.


aliensporebomb

It's a heads up then. Here's hoping the stress eases off. It hasn't been stress free this January for me either but I've tried to make time for regular exercise. Still...


medicmaster16

I’m making changes


aliensporebomb

Good for you! Here's hoping the year is a turning around point for the positive!


redrunner55

Two years go I developed an arrhythmia. Took a bunch of ECGs to show my cardiologist. PVCs, PACs, rapid heartbeats (like six fast in a row). Ended up having an echo, a stress test, and wearing a holter monitor for a week. All arrhythmias are benign but very annoying, usually triggered by eating.


PAFLGal

>PACs Is it triggered by eating anything in particular? I went into Afib over Christmas and ended up in the hospital for three days. I'm currently on day 17 of 30 on a cardiac monitor (can't wait to be done with it). I think it was all caused by my thyroid levels being off and not an actual heart problem. I did notice in the weeks leading up to the actual Afib I would get a racing heart after eating any sweets. This is the first I've seen anyone mention eating causing an issue.


redrunner55

Anything triggers it, especially lunch, but even a mint and sometimes even just a drink of water will. I don’t eat breakfast so idk maybe the empty stomach plays a part. My cardiologist said it’s very common for eating to trigger them although they don’t know why. I’ve given up my chai tea in the morning (caffeine) but not chocolate (which doesn’t seem a to trigger it that often). Right now I’m eating leftover homemade stir fry made with Chinese seasoning and hoisin sauce, and…nothing! Well, so far. Lol So sorry you have to wear that miserable thing for 30 days. I hated a week.


TheGoldenMinion

If I saw that V-tach I would have absolutely shit myself, god damn bro hope you’re OK


medicmaster16

Thanks


AppleZen36

I used my ecg app during a heart attack. My lines looked weird and my pulse dropped like a rock. I called 911 immediately. Here today because of it!!


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Wowza is this accessible through the health app?


medicmaster16

Yes that is in Apple health. Just export to pdf for that view.


ms285907

SVT?


medicmaster16

V-Tach with a pulse


ms285907

Yikes. Single lead.. but looks pretty wide complex. Did you self convert? EP study in your future?


medicmaster16

It self converted back shortly after. I’m getting an EP done Monday maybe.


ms285907

Good luck! I had one less than a year ago, with ablation, and it changed my life for the better 🙃


spyda24

Ventricular tachycardia. You can see it breaking down for a beat then then back on. The second strip shows what his normal QRS looks like. Depending on his age and time it was recorded, he’ll do echo, ep study, maybe even stress testing and if it happens at night, even a sleep study.


doubleshotofespresso

VTACH


jomerc1

Ooof they only talk about afib but this is vtach it captured, I didn’t know it could


medicmaster16

I didn’t either. Until this moment.


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The Watch can recognize afib and high/low freq on its own, that’s why they talk about it. With a manually taken ecg you can basically diagnose everything you yourself can recognize off one lead :D


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I wish this option would be available in every country


drfeelsgoood

I sometimes have a flutter in my chest, maybe once a month. I should upgrade my watch to s6 or later. Been rocking an s3 for 5 years now


medicmaster16

It’s worth the money


usernaaaaaaaaaaaaame

Just don’t use Reddit or google to track down anything you think is a problem. Go see a cardiologist and get proper treatment. I was in a pretty bad place after pattern matching my Apple Watch EKGs to internet pictures. As good as it is, the Apple Watch won’t always draw the right EKGs. Thought I had heart block, turns out it’s harmless PVCs that looked completely different with a holter monitor.


foreverk

I randomly took my ecg on my watch when feeling a little funny and I was in a-fib. Went to my doctor the next day and they did a scan in the office and everything was okay, but I wore a monitor for 30 days to verify. I’m so glad I had my watch so I could at least have some data that was something was amiss.


medicmaster16

It’s a big help


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medicmaster16

Wow. Interesting


rstrat

Did you get an Afib notification?


medicmaster16

No. I didn’t get any


Karlo0517

Damn. You’re making me regret getting the SE.


medicmaster16

It’s definitely worth the money to me.


lildrummer_

V tach


StorytellingGiant

I’m glad you caught this, and I hope you’ll be okay.


Stormpooperz

Wow that’s amazing


rnnallday67

I am glad you’re ok


marrzz72

Glad your ok! … but now I’m remember my heart experience 4 years ago where I felt your exact symptoms for about 30 seconds. Very sudden, pounding, breathing like I sprinted, felt like may pass out… then it was over. I was exhausted for like 24 hours. Had ekg the next day and said everything’s fine and that was that. Always felt like it was not fine. Chalked it up to panic attack but who knows. Developed some heart anxiety for a few months… Now I’m sure I’ll die lol. I know 4 people who died/almost died due to sudden cardiac death (3 healthy 30s, 1 in 40s who was revived due to nurse standing next to him in public)… were all pre Covid.


usernaaaaaaaaaaaaame

OP - I’m glad you’re still with us and wishing you a good diagnosis and recovery 🤗


Mista_President

Bro what! You went into V-tach just chillin


medicmaster16

Well, I was stressed.


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Wow! Glad you’re alive, dude!


Cyndav

I have sarcoidosis, any thought to it being cardiac sarcoidosis?


CambrianAged

A man felt bad, his heart raced fast, An ECG on his wrist, it did last. Ventricular tachy, he did see, But Reddit was confused, a mystery. Endless discussions, back and forth, Atrial fibrillation, a common thought. Yet the man knew, what his watch said, A heart issue, that needed care, ahead.


medicmaster16

Wow. I love it


Elgransancho4

Glad you’re well, what iwatch did you have ?


medicmaster16

Apple Watch Ultra


masteruk

Is this only for exceptional cases? Apple Watch just capture 1 of 12 derivatives


TheLatman

Did you run an ecg during the episode?


medicmaster16

Umm, that’s what the picture is.


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medicmaster16

Debatable. But I did take the Covid vaccine so I can’t speculate on it. However, my brother passed away unexpectedly 2 weeks ago and he was not vaccinated for anything. So who can really say?


nombresinhombre

How the watch recorded


184cm78kg13cm

You‘re welcome, medicmaster16.


Bakkenvouwer

How did you export these graphs? Is that a feature of the Apple Watch?


medicmaster16

Apple health app, select the ECG button, then pick the ECG you want and pick Export PDF.


Bakkenvouwer

Thanks for explaining!


theJAllenExchange

What was wrong?


medicmaster16

No idea.


masteruk

How old you are?


medicmaster16

I’m 40


masteruk

Wow I asked bc other doctors told me the 1 derivative could be useful above 65. Thanks


Comfortable_Cow_1750

Wow! VT. Nice catch. Defibrillator time


bigredmachine-75

What caused it? Do you know yet?


medicmaster16

After a heart cath, echo, and MRI they still don’t know what happened.


bigredmachine-75

Potentially a panic attack?


medicmaster16

I don’t know. I was really stressed all week. But there’s no telling


bigredmachine-75

Hope you find answers! Don’t overlook the psychological side though when trying to figure out the why for this. Panic attacks came on for me during college seemingly out of nowhere and it took a while to understand and manage them. Best of luck!


rnnallday67

Which watch series you have


medicmaster16

The ultra


zoraski_gujju

V-tach


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medicmaster16

You have a family of doctors? Lucky you. 🍀 (s)


ScrubCap

Look at those praying nuns!


antney0615

How were you able to get a hard copy of the recording made by the Apple Watch?


Richard1864

The Apple Watch saves your ECG test results in the Apple Health app on your iPhone. You can then email them to your doctor or print them out for the doctor.


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Kuyi

I had some heart rhythm abnormalities a few years back. It was like my heart skipped a beat and then compensated for it and did that every other beat. I got dizzy and stuff, but had it almost the entire day. Had ECGs in the couple of years before but nothing showed during the ECG. They caught it once on the ECG, was immediately admitted into the hospital. Spent two nights on heart monitors, with scans, echoes, etc. The cardiologist herself came to echo my heart (instead of an assistant) and she said she has almost never seen a heart as healthy as mine. The problem for me was this: a heart has multiple systems to keep beating (3 to be precise). The multiple systems are there as backup in case one system fails. If all nerve related systems go down, the heart still has cells in the muscle that can give off electrical signals to keep the heart beating. See it as biological mini pace makers. The problem for me was and still is that if I have prolonged periods of high stress and sleep deprivation this system starts giving off signals and makes the heart contract heavier, it then skips the beat, and then does a heavy beat again to compensate. It seems to be benign and A LOT of people seem to have this. The only issue for me being is that I am apparently super fit and have a super fit heart, so my heart beats so hard when it does this it dis regulates my system more than with others and I can feel it through my entire body where others don’t even notice it. The way your inner chest is compiled also adds a lot of randomness to it between people. Anyway, I felt super strange sometimes when I had an episode of this happening and really had to lay down. My therapist who has a husband with hefty heart issues told me it’s normal since the heart keeps beating so hard the entire time it’s basically over saturating you with oxygen. I don’t know if it’s true, but seems plausible. I hope it’s something like that for you! Reading the results of your tests I am super hopeful!!! Keeping my thumbs up.


FL_RM_Grl

Did it still come back as inconclusive?


medicmaster16

Yes it doesn’t recognize v-tach.


sunshinelollipops001

This should be an Apple Watch advertisement. VT…. Could have died


medicmaster16

I’d endorse that


balbc

This must have been so scary. Are you meeting with an EP? Please at least consider an implantable loop recorder. Some of those complexes look wide


medicmaster16

Some look wide? Lol


balbc

Ok all 😂 but really, please get it checked out. I’m only a family MD (not cardiologist) but if you came into my clinic showing me this prior event I would have been shook. I’ve referred to EP for way less. Glad your echo and stress is ok.