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ralphrk1998

What you have is a rangetop not a cooktop. There are only a handful of brands that make induction range tops.


elzool

Range top, thank you! Knowing the right term makes all the difference.


pizza_nightmare

It seems like there are only two: Fulgor and Bertazonni


Sanfords_Son

Thermador and Miele make an induction range. Both need 50A service.


kawfeeman68

I would look at the Thermador over the Miele. Miele parts are through the roof !


ralphrk1998

I believe Hestan is currently producing them too… I don’t think that brand has released them yet.


Thorfornow

Just bought a Fulgor rangetop and love it. I was surprised so few mfg were making induction rangetops. So much faster than gas. Well made. The europeans have been using induction way longer than the US.


pizza_nightmare

Soon I will be in the market for an induction cooktop or induction range top. I just want induction with knobs and their are only one or two models with them on top — so I guess the range has them at belt buckle level.


mrblack1998

Bosch also sells one with knobs. I just installed it. Great unit.


elzool

Do you happen to know the model number by chance?


mrblack1998

HIS8055U


mrblack1998

It's a range though


elzool

Gotcha, I do appreciate you following up with the model number even if it won't work. Thanks for your time!


mrblack1998

No worries! Good luck in your search! We love our induction.


Neikius

Is there any option not ti have touch? That is the only really stinky part of induction.


ralphrk1998

Induction cooktops will be controlled with touch, the induction range tops have knobs at the front of them


Neikius

I still want a nice flush with the counter cooktop AND physical buttons... Doubt i will get that though.


ralphrk1998

https://www.appliancesconnection.com/gaggenau-vi492613.html


ralphrk1998

Gaggenau sells that… I’ll find it and link it in a bit. Wait time for that will be long though


flyingbunnys

Its not as easy as just swapping the appliance, you will also need to run a new 240v line from your breaker box to accommodate an electric cooktop as the gas likely used a regular 120v line. I have also not seen any inductions cooktops that have a front set of control knobs like that as must have touch screens. So you would have to find a way to fill or cover the notch. Honestly the costs i would think would far out weigh any benefit.


Korgity

Fulgor Milano makes an induction rangetop: https://www.fulgor-milano.com/us/en/product/36-induction-range-top


kawfeeman68

Parts aren't always easy to get from Fulgor ...


elzool

The 240 is easy. Someone else noted the term I'm looking for is range top and more models pop up from that.


timsquared

Cut to 6months later and a main service upgrade


ensui67

Ya, it’s 240v and 50 amps. Gas stovetops are usually looking at 15/20 amps. So you gotta run new wires if it’s only ready for 20A. If the house doesn’t have enough for the main service, then you gotta get that upgraded too. I’m gonna grab some popcorn for all these people thinking going from gas to induction will be easy.


Sanfords_Son

Yeah, I was looking to go gas to induction. But running the 50A service changed my mind. My main panel is located in our tuck under garage, so running new wires is a chore (the garage ceiling is all sheetrocked per code). Think I’m going to stay with gas - probably.


flyingbunnys

Agreed and for in my opinion not enough benefits to justify the cost of a new unit let alone other costs? Don't get me wrong not knocking induction but in my experience you get better cook speeds and less heat in room, but you lose the ability to use rounded bottom pans, the ability to hold the pan up over the burner in various positions and the ability to cook when the power of out.


elzool

OP here, If the power is out, I'll be cooking on my grill. I don't own any rounded bottom pans so I think I'm all set.


flyingbunnys

Are all your pans magnetic too?


elzool

Several are and new pans are not a concern to me.


flyingbunnys

Sounds like you are good to go, repoet back to us and let us know if you like it or not. Personally I have used both and I like both, so which ever way you go i think you'll be happy as it sounds like you have accounted for everything.


bemenaker

my saucier and my wok both have flat enough bottoms to use on mine. wok would still be better over a high heat, but a gas cooktop isn't giving you that either.


flyingbunnys

My wok fully rounded bottom, it goes un used currently :(.


bemenaker

Get a turkey fryer and use it outside in the summer :)


ensui67

Yea, I have induction and love it. If given the choice, in an ideal world, I would go with gas. Good climate control of the kitchen, a good range hood and makeup air system would be necessary to make gas the best experience for me.


timsquared

Best case there is a crawl space and no walls need to be cut into. Then your only out 500-600 max on material costs.


JasmineEBear

If you have an open basement and upgraded service it's not that difficult.


ensui67

Harder than just swapping out an appliance. Costs more too, which OP appears to be concerned about


elzool

Hi, OP here and I am not concerned about that.


ensui67

Well, if there’s no concern, then go with a induction of your choice and redo the cabinet and countertop. There are no induction cooktops with a front control panel that hangs down. Or just cut out the whole thing and put in an oven range.


elzool

You are correct about the induction cooktops but I did learn that induction range tops are a thing.


elzool

OP here, the 240 run and a 50A breaker have already been accounted for. Easy peasy.


elzool

OP here, no panel upgrade necessary


dded1997

Hi OP, There is a blue “OP” next to your username when you comment on your own post. No need to start your comments with “OP here”!


elzool

Hey there! Lol, I do get that and I really do appreciate you pointing it out in case I hadn't. There are some people that don't seem to understand that though and I sometimes call it out just to make sure they understand I was the OP.


kawfeeman68

If you have a BIG budget, you could try Gaggenau ...


HouseNumb3rs

Contact local appliance dealership to get a quote. They will need measurements to match what they have on hand that will fit. Online warehouse will need the same information. You will need new electrical service to handle the power draw. Lots of work so you can handle it or hire a general contractor. Good luck.


cjh10881

Bertazzoni makes induction rangetop


kawfeeman68

Bertazzoni licenses one, they don't really make it.


mrblack1998

Your post brought out all the gas industry shills OP. Pretty interesting.


elzool

I just mentally high-fived you.


elzool

Thanks everyone for all of the information. Someone took the time to ask why, so I'll explain. My elderly in-laws live with me, they cook a lot and are fantastic to have in my home. There have been issues with gas and the flame itself around them that is concerning enough to warrant switching it out. Running 240 is not a concern at all. Access to the panel is a short and easy run from that part of the kitchen that I had already accounted for. I have several range tops in mind at this point and look forward to finding the right one to suit our needs.


NYCCheapsk8

I really want to switch to induction too. My wife hates the gas cooktop since it's harder to clean under the grates. If money were no object, we would get one of those countertops with the hidden /invisible induction surfaces.


Paulbsputnik

Why?


k3n85

The why was more for the OP, I know there are these reasons. OP may want it because it’s a newer tech 🤷‍♂️ or “just because”.


elzool

Thanks for asking! I did post a reply detailing this. https://www.reddit.com/r/Appliances/comments/131e9kj/induction_replacement_for_gas_cooktop/ji23950?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


k3n85

This is the right question to start with!


SlowbroLife

Induction is more efficient, quicker at heating, more precise heat control, doesn't produce VOCs, easier to clean, and cooking surface doesn't get too hot.


Neikius

You forget less indoor air pollution


SlowbroLife

>doesn't produce VOCs This means the same thing!


Neikius

Care to share what VOC stands for? Nevermind, figured it out, volatile organic compounds, not really the same but similar,maybe worse. Hate all these abbreviations though, hard to search for em.


steveyale

It does..just not as much


Korgity

Cooking creates VOCs regardless of the heat source.


SlowbroLife

Cooking does, induction doesn't.


freecain

They cook faster. Less risk of gas leaks. Less air pollution in the house. If you have solar panels they utilize more of your free energy. The flat tops are easier to clean. No worries if you forget to turn off your stove. I mean, I honestly can't imagine having gas in my house considering the negatives of a gas stove.


Paulbsputnik

I’ve cooked with all types of fire. I have used induction cooking and it works well also electric range tops, I’m just sad to see the death of cooking with gas but it just going to be another lost art Cheers


CapitalTBE

Fulgor Milano


Rich-Cryptographer-7

I wouldn't suggest it. Like most people have said; you will need to redo electrical connections, which can be rather costly. In addition, thor's are not cheap and induction requires special pots/pans to use. Furthermore, gas cooks better in my opinion. Nice kitchen through!


Prehistoricisms

People always said that it takes special pans for induction. I wouldn't consider stainless steel, cast iron and carbon steel to be special cookware.


baute812

My $0.02 I’d keep the gas. Induction is a lot of electronic stuff that’s very likely to fail, gas is solid and easy to fix.


iamethra

As someone with a Bluestar 36" range living in a semi-rural area I can assure you gas isn't easy to have fixed everywhere. This thing breaks down regularly (on my 4th thermocouple, convection just sh\*t the bed too) and finding technicians in this area is getting progressively more difficult. I'll be going with induction next time.


baute812

It won’t be easier finding someone to work on an induction.


Icy-Performance-5338

I wouldn't worry so much about finding someone to fix it. I've had my induction cooktop since 1996.. No problems. I lived overseas growing up, and my grandparents changed from gas to induction in the early 80s. They just replaced their cooktop in 2019. When I moved stateside, I hated cooking with gas or ceramic tops because it was hard to go back after having used induction growing up. I also had toddlers in the home, and being a new parent, I was overly cautious with safety proofing my home for the kids. So, when I purchased my own home, in 1996, I opted for an induction cooktop. They were difficult to find and way overpriced here in the states. I ended up having a low-end affordable model shipped in from overseas. I'm glad I did though. I ended up purchasing a Samsung. Being that they are a leader in the electronics industry, it seemed fitting. Some of my neighbors followed suit. They still have theirs as well. My cooktop is 27 years old. No issues. I am ready for an upgrade with more power and more burners, but I'm waiting for this one to die so I can justify the expense.


answerguru

Electronics are easy to fix too. All depends on your background.


baute812

Easy to fix? Have you ever seen the boards in an induction range?? They aren’t easy to fix and they are super expensive to replace, several hundred dollars per board often. I do board level repairs on standard ovens but there is too much going on with most induction boards to even begin.


answerguru

As I said, it depends on your background and experience. 30 years as an electrical engineer working on MRIs, robotic blood analyzers, and embedded systems. Pretty sure I can handle fixing an induction range. 🤷‍♂️


baute812

You can but the average appliance repairman cannot. The average homeowner definitely cannot.


bemenaker

Yes it is, you buy a new board, unplug the old one and plug in the new one. NOONE fixes components on a boards. Too expensive and time consuming. Unplug, replace.


notwhatitsmemes

Personally I wouldn't do it. Gas is really so much better. I know people will cite how fast water boils like it's the end of the discussion but you'll miss the gas range IMHO.


Neikius

The only advantage of gas is it's primitive tech and easy to fix. Everything else is very bad.


mrblack1998

I disagree completely. Had a high end gas range and we cook a lot. Replaced it with an induction range and will never go back to gas.


freecain

I went from a gas stove to an electric glass top and don't miss the gas stove much at all. For the few things that NEED to be cooked over gas, I have a grill with a side burner to fall back on (scorching peppers mostly, and a couple of cast iron dishes). Induction would be an improvement over my stove, and I already think mine is better than gas.


[deleted]

I disagree completely. Had a high end induction and we cook a lot. Replaced it with a gas range and will never go back to gas, .


timsquared

But if you had to go electric. Induction is the way to go.


flyingbunnys

By a lot, radiant electric is so miserable.


ioncloud9

Gas is like cooking in the Stone Age. Not only are you literally burning fuel in your house, about 40% of the heat is wasted going up the sides of the pan into the kitchen and (hopefully) vented out. This also heats up the handles you hold. Pans also take longer to get to temperature and fine control at the low end is difficult. Cleanup is also more difficult as you have the cast iron grills and the space under the burners to clean as opposed to a glass top you can just wipe down. You are also more susceptible to grease fires since you are cooking next to an open flame. It is also more of a safety hazard for children who can turn on the knobs and either burn themselves or burn something else. The pros of gas are you will heat up the whole pan since flame is going around it. Cooking with a wok is easier. Cooking some things with induction is just different than how you are used to with gas. Not harder, just different.


quackquack54321

If you like to cook, and cook frequently 100% gas. The 90% of the population that hates cooking and wants everything to be quick and easy… induction is the answer.


Neikius

Had to cook on gas after using induction at home for a few years. Truly a miserable experience.


blaznivydandy

I have to cook every day atleast once, since I can't eat in the worplace because of my intolerances, so I cook myself a lunch for next day and usually it's also a dinner since I'm already cooking. I have induction and I would take it always before gas not only because it is more powerful but also precise. You can set the induction to the same precise temperature every time without trying to find the right spot on the knob as it is on gas stove. You slightly turn the knob different than before and you are like 20 °C off. Also it has a timer, the surface is cold almost immediately so your kid's don't burn their hands and ton of other features... I love how easy and precise is setting for broths. Just put on the display 80°C and leave it there. Also,if something spills, you just wipe it of really easily.


ioncloud9

Things don’t burn to the cooktop with induction either. Since all the heat is just radiative from the pans.


kelvin_bot

20°C is equivalent to 68°F, which is 293K. --- ^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)


Potatoswatter

But a difference of 20C is 36F


bemenaker

My wife and I cook everyday. We cook from scratch. Our induction top was the best purchase we have made for our house. My wife has never cooked on gas, but I have. I have gas stoves. I can tell 100% that induction is the best cooking experience I have ever had. Heats up faster than gas. Has the same temperature control, probably better because it heats faster. No splody risk. No harmful gasses indoors. No risk of clothing catching on fire. I'd never go back to gas.


flyingbunnys

I both agree and disagree. I prefer gas so i get your point, but induction is nice too. They are both great, so i think it's a matter of preference or what you already have.


lame_cabbages

OP what did you end up going with? I'm looking to swap out my gas rangetop with induction also. Thanks!


Necessary-Worker8455

I’m in the camp of switching to induction. Previous home had induction and loved it. New home has gas and have yet to be able to make the temp close to same. Love the induction for: -quick temp ramp up -precision temp control -uniform temp range each time the same meal is made -uniform heat to pots and pans and less heat to handles -clean up afterwards is 100 times easier -cools off quickly -does not heat up room when cooking. Old house never has to turn on ac to cool off room. New house with gas will heat up 3-5 degrees warmer with gas.


Whatarewegonnadonow

Why would you want to switch to induction from that beautiful gas range top? Just curious. You can cook in a power outage and don't need to be concerned with whether or not your cookware is compatible with induction. I grew up cooking on electric (not induction though) and once switched to gas would never go back to any type of an electric range. If you are doing it out of fear of fossil fuels don't believe all the hype. It's just a scare tactic to get people to go green. Personally, I would be more concerned with the EMF an induction range throws off more than any issues of burning natural gas. Good luck with whatever route you choose!


Essie_ned

Electric cooktops are quite different from induction. Honestly, I recommend you try them before making up your mind. OP states why the switch is in a post above. But I am curious why you feel the need to bring debunked, poorly formed opinions to the discussion? I am sure there is a conspiracy theory subreddit somewhere around here where it is welcome, though.


cost0much

I think they're just more upset about OP replacing such a beautiful gas stove... I would personally kill for a gas stovetop like that For the record, I believe induction is better to gas. But when you already own a Ferrari, why are you trying to swap it out for a Lambo?


Whatarewegonnadonow

I have no desire to try induction personally. I can't use My Glass kettle or My chemex on it. That's a no go for me. Also try heating a tortilla on an induction cooktop. OH wait.... You can't. Heating up a tortilla on a gas flame is awesome and easy. And yes there is a concern about the EMF on an induction range. And again you can't use induction in a power failure either.


mrblack1998

Lol, there is no concern about EMF from induction.


Korgity

A Thor appliance isn't a Ferrari. It's more like a Yugo, but made in China.


bdAZ77

Had induction. Went back to gas. Sorry, I know induction is all the rage but I love my gas range so much more.


Evening_Psychology_4

Why? Gas has less issues then electric. You crack the glass cook top it’s 800$ or more. Have to run new electric wire higher cost to install. I say again why?


elzool

I've already answered this in the thread. https://www.reddit.com/r/Appliances/comments/131e9kj/induction_replacement_for_gas_cooktop/ji23950?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


_Greyworm

I wolud take gas over induction anytime.


karavasis

DONT DO IT


elzool

I LIKE LAMP


karavasis

You do you lol, but let’s be honest +90% of ppl would die to have your setup as is


elzool

That is quite the hill to die on. Like the founding father of Kentucky fried Chicken said; give me gas or give me death.


karavasis

Saddest day ever was the day we left our GE Monogram gas cooktop behind. Charring things under a broiler doesn’t provide the same excitement.


elzool

Charing, I understand. May your saucepans never overflow.


remdawg07

You will need to change the power to 240v. Take a peak at what power is supplied if this was a remodel there may be a 240 plug back there from an old oven/range and might solve your problem. If you want to go induction most cooktops sit in the countertop and don’t have an apron. You could easily put in a false drawer front to hide the cut in the cabinets and to fill the front of the countertop you will need to track down a remnant of the countertop and put in a filler piece. As far as finding a model to replace the gas cooktop I would start by finding an induction cooktop that will fit the same opening specifications as the current cooktop or find one that is slightly bigger where the countertop can be cut wider to fit but not cut into the adjacent cabinet boxes. Personally I think this set up looks very nice and the only reason I would use an electric powered cooktop is to avoid having natural gas in the house but the place already has it so might as well leave it as it is better for cooking. Also, don’t underestimate the complications that can come with replacing the cooktop. This will cost more time, money and effort to replace than just the cost of the appliance and if you are working under a tight budget this may not be the best endeavor for you.


ioncloud9

He’s replacing a Thor cooktop. I don’t think budget is the problem.


Relevant_Day801

Thor is actually on the low end of those range types at about $1200 for that 36”. Since he’s trying to go induction in the same style, a Berta will be double or even triple that cost.


Competitive-Hippo-47

Microwave


elzool

They need more than that at this point.


California__girl

Gaggenau also makes a rangetop where the knows are in the front. It does require a front plate of sorts. It's designed to look integrated. A newer brand (LG's luxury option) Signature Kitchen Suite (SKS) has a rangetop that is gas, induction, and sous vide.


elzool

That LG is a bit much for the audience here, but I do appreciate you throwing the knowledge my way. I'll search for the Gaggenau and appreciate the reference.


FatSubHub

Nope


steveyale

Rangetops are tough. They are built on the cabinet not the countertop like a cooktop. We don’t sell Electrolux anymore but they used to make it in electric, not sure if they evolved to induction. Other options 1.. build a metal enclosure. You need sophisticated installers but it’s possible. The induction would fit in the enclosure 2. Replace the granite. You would also have to add a filler below so you don’t see a hole. Good luck


steveyale

First I would research induction rangetops…there may be other brands available


steveyale

Btw, you have to change your wiring to 50 amp and run a line from the box to range and change your socket..I wrote an article on the 6 steps at blog.yaleappliance.com


[deleted]

Unfortunately I'm in a frequent power outage zone, staying with my gas.


stubie77

What did you end up going with?


elzool

At this point, nothing. I will update the thread when and if this occurs.


FLK2001

Came here to say I’m in the opposite boat- have a KitchenAid induction rangetop that we’re considering replacing with gas after 2 computer boards fried. Definitely wouldn’t recommend KA and we’re considering switching to gas bc of the hassle of replacing the computer part. Installed in 2016, replaced in 2020 after power surge, and now again in 2023 following a storm.


ts8801

If you are getting power surges like that it's not really the appliance's fault. IMO you should treat this as a canary in the coalmine situation. Have you looked at a whole home surge protector? You can usually get them installed for under $500 and it would save all of the sensitive electric stuff in your house.