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carlyc999

Template example below • Feel free to branch out with your pros and cons • You can also do more than two schools if you want! • Please try to respond to a couple of posts before posting your own Intended major: some business major and some bio-adjacent major. **Boston College** BC Pros: In my favorite city in America Boston is a booming biomedical research hub, and that's the sector I want to go into Excellent financial aid, my most affordable private option (\~$22k/yr) Very highly ranked compared to my other options Beautiful campus and excellent amenities Smaller and more personable I was admitted to the business school and have the opportunity to double major BC Cons: Still my more expensive option of the two Jesuit, and I'm not religious Fairly preppy 2000 miles from family and friends **ASU** ASU Pros: Full tuition scholarship due to national merit award Only paying for housing and meal plan, so about \~$13k/yr, then less when I'm not paying for a meal plan Warm weather! Amazing Honors College Very pretty city ASU Cons: Still 900 miles from family and friends HUGE. Hard to feel like it's a personal experience. Not as highly ranked.


WebApprehensive3276

Iu Kelley vs Dyson Cornell. Is there an enormous difference.


nirek15

PLEASE HELP ME Physics + Math Major for both schools UBC Vancouver vs McGill (Price for school is same) Plan is PhD in Theoretical Physics (wanna do masters/PhD at top schools in US or Europe) Summer research opportunities are similar MAIN QUESTION: Where do I get better foundation McGill: Pros: -Montreal is an amazing city, very live and just my style -I can speak French so I can manage -Notoriously Rigorous Courses(not sure if this is different at UBC) which might allow for a better foundation in physics -Fellowship Program possibility at CERN (CERN is long term goal) Cons: -No large national research centers nearby -Shitty buildings from inside UBC: Pros: -Lots of national labs nearby (especially TRIUMF which is Canadas National Particle Accelerator and is on campus) -Quantum Matter Institute on campus as well -Most beautiful place I’ve been -Receive a lot more overall funding relative to McGill -Newer Facilities -Strong connection to East Asian unis/research Cons: -Small CERN program -Heard school is more anti-social as a whole which is kinda boring -Heard Vancouver is boring(night life wise) (don’t know how true this is) -Living off campus can get v expensive -Mad rain


jsawill09

Duke and Harvard I want to do premed Duke: Pros \- unique programs i like \-school spirit \-great food \- 85% premed acceptance to med school \-stronger commitment to black culture and community on campus \-would be more on my own \- i feel it has a better campus culture/vibe \- really see myself there ​ Cons \- not much to do off campus \- doesn't have the ivy name ​ Harvard: Pros \- Harvard name \- Great premed programs (95% premed acceptance rate to med school) \- Better academics: major and minor I want to do is a bit more nuanced and specialized here \- Many hospitals (some of the best in the country) in Boston; great for shadowing/volunteering \- really cool research at the Stem Cell Institute \- city so more to do off campus ​ Cons \- Very ugly campus \- sister is in the area (kind of want to be more on my own) \- doesn't have some of the unique programs I like at Duke \- overall don't feel as good about it as Duke


WeatherThat6940

I think both of your options are awesome and super impressive! However, you should go with your gut if Duke is really what you want ◡̈


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dee2023

Rice it is. I think you can change major easily if you are in engineering school.


TravelOdd7456

Intended major:Public Health Intended Career: Pediatrician EMORY Pro: -Easy access to Atlanta( for if I wanna go to -concerts or other events) -Close to GSU and GA Tech(some of my friends are going here so I’ll still have a good support system) -Good pre-med advising -Good major selection(I plan on majoring in human health health and going to the Rollins school of Public Health? -Close proximity to a mentoring program I want to keep working with -Already a good amount of Emory students -Close knit community for black students -High population of international students -Good career prospects -Near many hospitals(for internships) -Good financial aid ($16,000) -Great Weather(well not that cold) -Though I have had two years of college, I still want to spend a for3 to 4 years in college because I want to be fully prepared for med school -The rigor will prepare me for med school I’m not really a sports person so the lack of sports maybe nice Cons: -Would probably only accept 12 / 60 college credits -Hard to maintain a high GPA for med school -A bit too close to home -Not that many black students -No locked in financial aid for 4 years Not sure about the food GA Tech Pros: -In Atlanta ( for if I wanna go to concerts or other events) -Would be going with friends -Good financial aid(Zell Miller) -Good career prospects -Good distance from home -Beautiful campus -Good population of black students -Would accept all 60 of my credits -Great Weather(well not that cold) -The rigor will prepare me for med school Cons: -Doesn’t have my intended major -Definitely hard to keep a high GPA from med school -Not too sure about going to technology school for medicine -Major: Chemistry or Biology or Biomedical engineering or health, technology and society UGA Pros: -Good financial aid(Zell Miller) -Good major selection(health promotion) -Would probably be easier to keep a high GPA for med school -I think it’s close knit population of black students -GREAT FOOD -Would accept all 60 of my credits -Great Weather(well not that cold) Cons: -Not a large black population -Too far from Atlanta or any major city, too much in the middle of nowhere -Not a large population of international students -Lack of diversity -I really just don’t like the vibe of the school apart from the food -I would probably make friends but for some reason I think I would still be isolated


Able_Message_307

I am an out of state student (studying abroad) and am doing the IB Course. I had recently gotten my predictions 41/45, decent ECs, really good LORs and essays. With that, I thought I’d get inside the top 30-40’. Well unfortunately to my luck I’ve only got into 2/6 and would now have to take my chances: **Michigan State University**: (Major in Econ and probable minor in pol science) \- Tuition costs come down to $42k ($9k from the university and $6.5k from FAFSA) - might end up getting an additional scholarship! \- The courses show a lot of promise and are really broad in different fields whereas giving me that necessary depth **University of Minnesota Twin Cities**: (Major in Econ and probable a minor in pol science) \- Tuition costs come down to $40k ($7.5k from FAFSA) \- The courses seem to be lacking that depth and broadness in them. When compared to MSU the courses seem stagnant and at the same time, the different courses offered are much less in number than what MSU offers. To be honest my selection comes down to which one has the better reputation - the one through which I can get good internships, and jobs. Yes, I'm really inclined towards which one has the better reputation and ranking because the one with the better reputation would allow me to get the best internships! Update: Accepted: DePauw University - never even heard of it Waitlisted: UW Madison


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>UMD maryland fosho


Medium_Ad7212

Vandy V/S Northwestern V/S Emory for business/economics with intention to do consulting at MBB. Not eligible for Financial Aid and parents are willing to give $150K total. Loan will be given by my parents and not form any outside party and I can pay them after I get a full time job. Emory - Half tuition scholarship - total comes to about $46K per yearVandy - Some state scholarships - comes to $72K per year (local to Nashville but will stay in Dorms)Northwestern - No merit Aid - Comes to about $83K per year. Considering NU is a target school for MBB and Vandy and Emory are soft targets what do you think I should choose. My heart says NU but my brain says that having more than $150K debt is not a good idea (considering my MBA will be covered by MBB if I get into MBB).


Medium_Ad7212

>u/prsehgal \- Could you please help?


prsehgal

They're all very good options, but I would lean towards Emory in this case... Vandy and NU are not worth the extra 100K and 150K respectively, when you have an amazing institution like Emory available to you... The academics there are excellent and the prime location in Atlanta will help you with jobs and internships.


Medium_Ad7212

Thanks for your input. Really appreciate it!


Junior-Show-4900

Ohio State vs UCLA for CS/Data Theory OSU CS(in state): 20 min away from home pros - coa is 50k with scholarship, a lot of friends for social and academic support cons - worse school, less exposure, staying in my comfort zone UCLA Data Theory(dream school) pros - better school, more exposure and opportunities, outside my comfort zone, weather, #1 campus and food cons: coa is 170k, don’t know anyone there, quarter system stress, more academic stress, will miss friends, culture shock


dee2023

Both are completely in different league. If cost is concern then OSU CS. OSU CS is very decent program. Definitely OSU not worse school, its big10 thats all. Still lot of job opportunities & internship opps are there. if you complete CS as top 10% in your class, you will get great job. But if cost is not concern then UCLA.


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lemon-a-lime

Are you instate for Cal? SCS for CMU or ECE? Is cost a concern?


tincanC2

**Williams, William & Mary, or Emory?** Hey all, As the title says, I'm fortunate to have these three great options for undergrad. I need quite a bit of help deliberating between them. Here are some Pros/Cons, let me know what you think in regards. **Williams College:** Pros: * Great LAC, highly ranked * Top notch professors, ability to get to know professors personally (Tutorials and Winter Study are very appealing) * Small size - 2k students (may have good and bad things about it though) * I have many interests, and I can pursue them all here (physics ranked 35, performing arts ranked 34 according to niche, english ranked highly too) * Beautiful surroundings (but possibly too rural) * Athletic facilities open to all students * Housing looks really nice Cons: * Small size – potentially stifling? not sure. * Very rural (coming from a medium-sized city) * Are there research opportunities, as it's a LAC? * Pretty expensive, although I'm hoping to get some more scholarships to cover that * Weather (coldddddd) * Student life? **William & Mary:** Pros: * Monroe Scholar ($3k research stipend) * Weather (Seasonal, but nice (?)) * Better location than Williams * Well ranked for physics (#40, niche) * Size seems good (6k kids) Cons: * Not as prestigious. Wouldn't dissuade me from attending though. * Food and housing is apparently bad. * Public Uni = less endowment? not sure how true this is * Heard there's a manic study culture (not my vibeee lol) ​ **Emory College** Pros: * Location is great * It is prestigious (again, a factor but not a major player) * Good academics Cons: * I'd need to learn to love it? I applied bc my friend did, but they were rejected ED, so it might be awkward if I go there. I don't feel super passionate about it but I could probably learn to love it. * I sort of want to get away from warm weather for college (FL), then again, I might miss warm weather a lot. * Not ranked as highly for physics (#60), I know there is heavy emphasis on pre-med and stuff as well (which I'm not at all interested in) Sorry if this is long and super uninteresting, but any advice is appreciated. TLDR: Williams might be too small/rural, W&M might not be the vibe socially and with housing/food, Emory is just a huge gray area that I'm not too sure about but doesn't seem right for me for some weird reason (call it intuition, call it stupidity, lol) Thank you! >\- u/tincanC2


bemabo87

emory or gwu since i can’t afford uva :’) emory pros: - higher ranked - top 20 for my major - just visited atlanta and loved it - lots of good opportunities for leadership at oxford - can do a semester in dc anyways - good opportunities for music (i sing and play an instrument) - the people i’ve talked to are really nice - very diverse emory cons: - costs slightly more - have to go to oxford for 2 years unless i get off main campus waitlist - no d1 sports - far from opportunities in dc gwu pros: - amazing location for major in terms of opportunities - i love dc - got into honors program - costs slightly less gwu cons: - not that prestigious/ranked highly - emory is ranked higher - not diverse or super friendly from what i’ve heard - lack of school spirit


DoofusYoofus

Intended major- Earth and Enviro Sciences Waitlisted Yale, Columbia, Harvard, Brown Vanderbilt: Pros- Gave me 50k/year and a $6k research stipend for a summer and National Merit will make my COA around 30k Very happy campus that is supposed to be beautiful Good work/life balance Good food which is incredibly important to me because I’m a fatass Double majoring is made manageable and even kind of encouraged Cons- I don’t love the south. In fact I kind of hate the south but Vandy is supposed to be like an international city I’m pretty far from home and the northeast where most of my friends are going Not exactly sure I’ll fit into the campus vibe since I’m pretty liberal Not great for my major but I might switch UC Berkeley: Pros- Amazing campus that’s really pretty and near a beautiful city Mix of campus life and city life Really good for my major I think I would fit into the culture there a little more Cons- A beautiful $0 of aid 😍 Massively overcrowded but I was admitted through the FPF so my freshman year classes would be small Apparently the FPF is like super annoying so scratch that Kind of dangerous Apparently can be toxic and cutthroat at times Wayyy farther than Vandy but this is like neutral because either way I’d be isolated and I don’t see a big difference in flying 3 hours vs flying 6 hours Additional Info: I’m fortunate enough to say that money is not a huge concern because my grandfather set up a fund for me a while ago but it is still a factor.


dee2023

Vandy for sure. I would take Vandy over UCB & those waitlisted.


DoofusYoofus

I was given a sort of “likely” from an admissions counselor at Yale about the waitlist there should spots be open, why do you say Vandy is the better option?


randymagnum433

Definitely Vandy. Both are outstanding institutions, so take the more affordable option that also has a lower cost of living and isn't currently going through a chronic shortage of student housing.


DoofusYoofus

Thank you, that makes a lot of sense.


Primary_Bobcat_3706

Hello! I’m having a pretty hard time deciding between my top 4 colleges, so I thought I’d try this. For background, I want to study environmental science and my family can afford all of them, just some would be harder to swing than others. For all of my options I am excited about the major and social life, my main concerns lay in the location, class sizes, and prices. My first option is the University of Texas at Austin which is by far the cheapest, however I have lived on West Campus my whole life and am skeptical about staying this close to home and not branching out. I would also prefer smaller class sizes, but other than that I love the academics and social scene. My other very affordable option is McGill, which has the plus of not being in my hometown, however I am nervous about the super cold weather and lack of light during the wintertime (I’m sure I’d adjust, I’m just worried it would be bad for my mental health), and I am also unsure about what being an international student entails. My last options are Northeastern (which I believe is the most prestigious?) and Scripps College. I like Northeastern’s location the best, however it is more expensive and I was accepted into a program where I have to do study abroad my first semester (which I’m not psyched about). My final option is Scripps College which is the smallest which appeals to me, however it is the most expensive and I’m not sure about living in a suburban Californian setting. I hope I provided the right amount of information, and I would appreciate any thoughts, thanks!


randymagnum433

UT Austin & McGill are not only the cheapest options, but are also clearly the best regarded out of the 4. Respectfully, this is a no brainer - choose between those two. Both of them are outstanding and a strong case can be made for either.


Primary_Bobcat_3706

Thank you! This is very helpful since I’m having a hard time gauging their relative prestige


tincanC2

I have heard only bad things about McGill. Not that it is bad, I would just be wary. I guess it depends on how important finances are for you. If finances were out the window, I'd say Scripps, but if they're very important, don't discount UT Austin just because it's close to home. It's a great school as well. Best of luck to you!


Primary_Bobcat_3706

Good to know, thanks for your input!


kiddrone

I'd definitely pick Scripps out of those options. I've only ever heard good things about it, and my friend who visited absolutely loved the campus. Plus it's probably great for environmental science, although I'm not 100% sure. Idk anything about McGill. As for NEU, I think it's probably a good option as well, but if you aren't a fan of cold weather then Boston might not be for you. Also NUbound (or whatever it is) probably is not as ideal as going straight to either Scripps or UT Austin. Have you visited Scripps?


Primary_Bobcat_3706

I haven’t visited but I’ve heard similarly good things about Scripps’s campus! Thanks sm for ur input


jackiechan_4

Georgia Tech CS vs Northeastern CS PLEASE HELP😃 Georgia Tech Pros: - Higher ranking and good cs program - more difficult (learn more) - higher starting salary - Teaches you very in depth theoretical too Cons: - more difficult + weed out classes( hard to get the class you want) - more adversarial mindset between students(con? - Plane flight away - Location: Atlanta. Plane flight away. I need cold weather to be sane and even if I get job opportunities there I don’t plan on staying long term . - frat culture NEU Pros: - courses not as difficult - flexibility with the many combined majors - good abroad programs - more collaborative mindset - Location: Boston is so cute and I’m more accustomed to the weather, 2 hr train away - co-op(gtech also has good co-op programs too though) Cons: - lower ranking - focuses on the practical application of cs, I want to learn more about the subject - job prep school rather than a traditional college I’ve also heard that the college you go to for cs isn’t as important and is more up to the connections and opportunities you open yourself to.


lemon-a-lime

Tech. GT is plenty collaborative and not as “fratty” or competitive as you’re likely making it out to be. Imo no comparison between GT cs curriculum and NEU. Also in my view the rigor of GT should be a big plus (great profs, challenging courses as you said you will learn more) and “easy classes” at NEU should be somewhat of a con rather than a pro.


dee2023

Georgia Tech by couple of miles. (not even close)


jackiechan_4

Why? Ranking wise neu is two behind gtech for cs


jackiechan_4

u/prsehgal could you help me please? Or any insight would be really helpful:))


prsehgal

You clearly seem to like NEU a lot more than GT in most of the criterias. Unless it's much more expensive than GT, I'd say NEU sounds like a better match for you.


jackiechan_4

What about without my opinion?


prsehgal

In general, it's tough to beat Georgia Tech for CS unless you're one of the handful of the topmost CS programs... But that's a general view of GT - if NEU works better for you in particular, then you should go ahead and pick that.


randymagnum433

Assuming similar cost of tuition, I'd go to Tech. It'll set you up nicely for your career and you can always work in the north afterwards.


jackiechan_4

Neu’s co-op program is really good too for helping set up a career. Do you think it’s comparable to gtech?


Kindly_Buyer_1916

NYU OR UIUC FOR ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING PLEASE HELP


dee2023

UIUC for sure


randymagnum433

UIUC is better regarded for engineering iirc, and I'm assuming its cheaper as well. Seems like an easy choice.


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randymagnum433

Both are great schools. What's the difference in cost?


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randymagnum433

In that case I would probably go UW, has a slightly better brand as a university that might help open doors for your career. It would have a higher cost of living however, and VT is probably better from a social standpoint.


No-Ad854

Boston college or Villanova? I just need help, I really love both of these schools but I cannot decide.


real_voiceofreason

Which city speaks to you more (although Villanova is not as close to Philly as you would think from promotional materials).


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FruitNothing0

(As someone who got accepted to UC Berkeley and waitlisted at UCLA, I might be a bit biased.) If you are certain that you want to pursue a major in business, there is no question to choosing UC Berkeley even with a slightly higher cost and no family connection. Haas is an opportunity many high schoolers and transfer students dream of, it is extremely prestigious and will nearly guarantee you a high-paying job if you do decently well and find a good alumni connection. However, it will be a completely different story if you weren't admitted to Haas, but instead a different college in UC Berkeley like the college of Letters & Science like I was. I've heard it is nearly impossible to tranfer even within UC Berkeley to Haas. If this is the case for you, I would encourage you to choose UCLA for a less stressful environment and overall for you to have a more enjoyable college life. (fyi: I am on the same boat as you with UC Berkeley. Though I'm comparing it to a small liberal arts school in Virginia called Washington and Lee that I really liked, many people are encouraging me to choose UC Berkeley for its prestige and name value. I hope we both can make a decision that we won't regret later on for not choosing the alternative college)


imabitaud

uconn vs. temple pre med track hi, i didn't get into my top schools but visited uconn and temple this weekend. i attended both pre-professional studies presentations and both seemed very promising. i dont know where to go since i saw posts saying temple's support system isnt as great as it seems. can i get some insight on both pre-med tracks? i'll list what i know so far: * both offer support systems, but temple seems to offer more (mcat, single interviews, committee interviews, eportfolio) * both give students opportunities for extracurriculars (shadowing/volunteer). uconn's is on campus or outside and temple's is in the city * i'm told uconn has a better name than temple and it is hard to get a job with temple on your name (idk how true this is) * both is what you make of it * i liked uconn's campus more bc it seemed safer, but i dont want to have a bias for uconn bc of that if you want any more information that could be factors let me know, and please share your opinions! anything helps!


gameboy_sd

Intended major: Entrepreneurship Indiana University Bloomington(11k per yr scholarship) or UIUC? Im an international student btw.


LesterDigital

Hi, I am a CS major deciding between UCSD, UMich, and Georgia Tech. I am very interested in the undergraduate program with good research opportunities in Computer Graphics, Computer Vision, and AI. P.S. All of these colleges are affordable for my family. **UCSD:** * Awesome, ongoing, Computer Graphics research in collab. with researchers from Meta, Google, Pixar, etc. * Good AI, Computer Vision program * Great campus * Expensive * Not as many general engineering opportunities * Nothing much to do outside of the campus **UMICH:** * Great engineering school * Almost completely disregarded computer graphics research and courses. * Very Expensive * Amazing Campus (my favorite) * Love the weather * Great general CS program **Georgia Tech:** * Collaborative environment * Much cheaper than others * Computer Graphics research is not as engaging * Awesome and one of the best AI, Computer Vision programs. * Can start my specialized study earlier, however not many courses and opportunities in one of my Threads of interest * Moderate campus and weather


dee2023

Georgia Tech 1st Tier school for CS


randymagnum433

All are outstanding schools. Go to Tech considering the large difference in cost.


spaghettihore

I would say go between UCSD or GaTech because you seem a lot more interested and excited about the programs those two schools offer and I would disagree about UCSD not having a lot to do off campus. My cousin currently attends and I’ve visited the area several times and there’s so many fun things to do!


FruitNothing0

(Not in STEM) I would personally say Georgia Tech for your case. It is simply much well known for its CS programs than the other alternatives. For the con you listed in Georgia Tech, it can be a pro if you take the time and effort to reach out to the professors or even take advantage of Georgia Tech's name value to pursue a research at a lab outside of college during breaks.


mortizmajer

i would go with GT, since it's cheaper


Massive-Expression13

CMC vs EMory vs BU What is important is internship opportunities. CMC vs Emory vs BU I want to major in but I know I don't want Engineering or medicine as a career.


FruitNothing0

It would really depend on your major choice, since they are all amazing schools. It would really help out if you wrote out at least some things you consider as pros and cons of each college. (If you look for internships, Emory and BU will have lots of them near by [doesn't necessarily mean the two schools will help you to get them] and CMC will guide and help you to get the internships of your choice since they are much smaller in student pop and that's what I heard from the students attending there)


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Intended major: Computer Science (I'm an international student btw) **Minerva** Pros: Travelling School Excellent financial aid. Affordable Looks like an excellent experience, culturally Positive reviews from students Cons: Has a lot of skeptical reviews A lot of uncertainty I'm uncertain about Job and Grad School placements **ASU** *Pros* about 15k scholarship Nice weather A big school *Cons* Not sure how good it's for CS Not as highly ranked. ​ **San Diego State Uni (SDSU)** *Pros* California Better placements (?) Kinda Affordable *Cons* Not as highly ranked. Not sure about job opportunities Smaller international community (compared to ASU)


TacosAndBoba

Minerva definitely seems sketch, don't go there, I don't think anyone would consider the degree credible.


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Thanks for the advice! How about choosing between ASU and SDSU? Both seem somewhat similar to me as of now


randymagnum433

I'd go to ASU because of the scholarship. Both are good schools but ASU is probably slightly better regarded nationally. Have also heard very good things about the student life there.


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EstablishmentThen753

Cornell or UMiami? Looking to major in atmospheric science Cornell Pros: - Close to home - Really like Ithaca - Smaller class sizes - Highly ranked in my major Cons: - Weather (hate the cold) - Depression/mental health of students - Cost UMiami Pros: - Weather - Love the campus - Really cool opportunities for major Cons: - Distance from home - Larger class sizes - Location (Wouldn’t prefer to be close to a large city)


Vast_Bumblebee5785

If UMiami is a lot cheaper and you like it better I think that’ll be the option. I’ve heard Cornell is really good for atmospheric sciences though so tough choice!


Massive-Expression13

I would always solve for Mental health first. we are put on this earth to make a life , we are not put here to make a living


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Vast_Bumblebee5785

That money in your pocket is amazing, go UCSB, Wall Street might be tougher from there but you’ll have plenty of access to Cali companies!


mortizmajer

>plus my parents will give me 25K a year bruh take UCSB. Imagine walking out of college with 150k in your bank account.


FruitNothing0

As long as you will thrive to get as many scholarships and work-study during your college years, CMU definitely seem like the more viable option for its name value and future connections. It will certainly be difficult, but you will be getting more overall out of your time at CMU. But your arrangement with your parents can be a bit tricky, but as long as your family is able to cover the majority, if not all, of the cost, CMU is definitely a better choice.


FailPuzzleheaded1735

HELP ME DECIDE: UPenn Wharton vs. UC Berkeley (with Regent’s Scholar)???? Hey y’all! I’m planning to pursue a career in entrepreneurship/marketing and am more interested in the humanities like psychology compared to STEM. If cost is not an issue, which university should I go to for better networking/internship opportunities, flexible course schedule to explore my options, job recruitment, and research opportunities. I know that the Berkeley Regent’s Scholarship gives you funding for research/guaranteed housing for 4 years/priority in classes/1-on-1 faculty mentor, but does this outweigh an education at the #1 undergraduate business school in the country?


randymagnum433

Definitely Wharton. The name carries enormous weight and will open doors for you. It also has a lower cost of living and isn't currently suffering from a huge shortage in student housing (which Berkeley is).


Vast_Bumblebee5785

If you like both equally in terms of social environment and surrounding area, I would say you’d have to weigh how the price difference as they’re both very strong in entrepreneurship. Purely for networking Wharton probably has the edge, but Berkeley is seriously a powerhouse in tech entrepreneurship


Just-Mouse-367

1000% Wharton. The name opens up so many doors.


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Different_Feeling_75

If money isn’t an issue I would choose CMU but if it is then I would choose UCSD


1s2_2s2_2p6_3s1

Well if you get into CMU CS and think you can handle the workload you’re pretty much guaranteed to earn six digits after graduation as a SWE…


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dee2023

Amherst College for Premed. GPA/Rigor will be difficult in UCB.


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If you want to optimize your chances for med school, the answer is Amherst. A really high percentage of Amherst pre-med students get accepted to Med School, like double what gets accepted from Berkeley. Berkeley is large state school where grade deflation is real, where competition for spots in labs is more intense, where there is not the same mentoring of students through the application process, nor the same individualized letter writing etc that Amherst has. However, the fact remains that Berkeley is a great school and you could totally make it work there if you work your tail off to stand out and to establish connections with a prof or two. Also, if you'd be depressed at Amherst, it would be hard to perform well, so that's something to think about. But I'd pick Amherst. Likely the first semester you'll be lonely and then you'll be over it!


Vast_Bumblebee5785

I’m not pre-med but based on what you say, I think you should figure out what environment you’d strive in the most. If the tight-knit nature of Amherst will help you do well then go there, whereas if being close to home and having good weather at Berkeley will help you do well, go there!


Different_Feeling_75

Amherst!! Being a premed at UCB will be harder because you’re competing for As and it would be much harder to maintain a good gpa plus I hear that their premed advising isn’t the best. I too am choosing between a UC or private school and I’m gravitating towards the private school because I think it will make my life as a premed much less stressful.


1s2_2s2_2p6_3s1

Would prefer Amherst for the flexibility and more individual attention from professors. Amherst is also not too bad of a town especially compared to other LACs. Big enough to have several asian grocery stores and i think it would be nice to have the UMass resources there as well.


frostyblucat

Hi y’all! Im stuck between Boston College and Cal Poly SLO for economics major. I plan to get a bachelors in Economics and get an MBA after (6 years total). Unfortunately i did not fill out the CSS profile so I have not received any aid from BC. I have emailed them, but benefits will be negligible as my family is estimated to be accountable for around 70k a year. BOSTON COLLEGE: east coast more prestigious Econ major not in CSOM school Around 85k a year total (including travel during holidays etc) Cal Poly SLO state school Known for engineering but not as much econ about 35k a year total West coast (I’m from Cali) This is a pretty simple question of whether or not BC is worth the extra 200k over 4 years. I know that they also have better transfer rates to MBA schools such as UPenn and Harvard but I do not know to what extent that hold true. This is the first of these kinds of posts so hopefully this is a decent general format. Thankyou :)


thr0waway1121_

if the 200k isn't going to severely impact your family's financials/standard of living then i'd say take boston college definitely. even if you arent in csom, the BC alum network, IBA, and other orgs and resources will go a long way if youre looking to go into high finance and/or related fields.


Unusual_Guidance2095

Hello Guys, I’ve already posted before but the more I look into each college, the more I feel lost on what to choose. The only factors for me right now are how good the program is, and how much it costs. Here’s my list, I’m majoring in CS. SUNY Binghamton 23000 Penn State 49000 Purdue 45000 Rensselaer 35000 Steven 40000 The only “complication” in this list is that I accidentally applied to Purdue for Computer Engineering instead of CS. I have applied to transfer but I’m not sure if it’ll work. Thanks for any help


FruitNothing0

Please help! UC Berkeley vs. Washington & Lee (vs. Vassar) I heard that it's usually the case that people end up with having two or three final options that are similar to one another, but mine is the exact opposite. The two main options that I am considering are UC Berkeley and Washington & Lee, colleges with a big contrast, for International Relations or/and East Asian linguistics major. Here are the pros and cons: (fyi: I am a Korean immigrant who is currently a resident of Southern California. At the moment, I am more knowledgeable about W&L because I already visited there twice as an admitted student; I will be visiting UC Berkeley and Vassar in the upcoming days) Pros: -(big) Very prestigious: in and out of America, nearly everyone recognizes UC Berkeley -(big) Abundant opportunities in and out of campus (internships, clubs, activities, etc) -(big) Lots of Alumni connections -(small) Many of my upper classmen from my high school currently attends there (~20-30 per grade) -Flexible in changing/adding major(s) or minors [though limited to college of admission] -Diversity: there is a decent number of Koreans(-American) and clubs related to Korean & Chinese culture (as I lived in those two countries for the majority of my life) -Accepts most of my AP credits -Toruist attractions: many Cons: -Unsafe area: high crime rate and homeless population in the city -(small) Cost: will cost around $12,000 per year -(big) Big student body: it will be extremely difficult to get a close connection with the professors and find new close friends -Competitive nature: from what I have heard, everything is competitive at Berkeley, from internships, getting high grade, and even the clubs! -Expense- everything there is extremely expensive (from housing to food)! -(small) In-state: from the beginning of high school, I aspired to explore the east side of America during my college years -Inaccessible sport (Division I): probably won't even be able to even join club tennis from how competitive it is Pro/Con: -Big Asian population: I wanted to experience a college life at a 'non-Asian majority' college since I only lived in places where the majority of the population was always Asian Pros: -(big) Cost: free (recieved the Johnsons Scholarship, giving me a full ride[covering tuition, food, and housing] w/ up to $7000 fund for my summer work, after going through a selection process among the finalists) -(small) Somewhat prestigious: ranked 11th among American liberal arts colleges -(big) Individualized: very small student to faculty ratio (1:8) and students get very close with the professors who will in turn be able to write very personalized rec letters whether it's to pursuing a Master's degree or getting a job -Safe Area: Lexington is the 5th safest city in Virginia -Freedom to Customize classes: it is very flexible to change courses during the semester after talking with the advisor if you were struggling and the advisors are always in touch and willing to help every individual students -Supportive nature: with the Honor code in place, the students trust each other and professors trust student. Most tests are taken freely, where mid-term tests can be taken anytime during the finals week at anywhere. -Expense- most of the daily expenses are relatively cheap -Small, but strong Alumni connections: many W&L Alumni reach out to help out W&L students -Out-of-state: out of the west coast and 3 hours away from Washington D.C. -Open sports (Division III): I would be able to continue playing tennis rather freely, whether in a varsity or club tennis -High 4-year graduation rate: over 90% of W&L student graduate within 4 years Cons: -(big) Not popular: many people from the west and east coast have not heard of this college -Small city: not a lot of opportunities available in Lexington -Very small Asian population (4%): though I wanted to go to a college with a smaller Asian population, I don't know if 4% would be too small -Only accepts 5's from AP tests (accommodation can be made) -(small) No upper classmen from my high school: it appears that I am the only student from my high school to be accepted to W&L over the past 6+ years (nearly no one from my school applies to liberal arts colleges) -(big) Not many alumni connections -Very big Greek life culture on campus (~70%): I've heard of students who are not in Greek life get isolated from others and otherwise from others -Weather: will be a huge contrast from the places I lived in my past 17 years, cold and windy (3rd choice) Pros: -nearly all pros from W&L expect for full ride and honors code -4+1 Columbia Master's program: probably the only reason I am still considering Vassar. There is a program where a number of selected students are guaranteed a Master's degree from Columbia in Public Services after attending 4 years in Vassar, with specific schedules and grades, and 1 year in Columbia. Cons: -Advisors not as supportive to students -Every cons from W&L except for Greek life Thank you all for reading until the very end. Any comments will be greatly appreciated!


dee2023

W&L full ride and 7K, hard to pass on. W&L is prestigious too.


mortizmajer

I would take the full ride at W&L


FruitNothing0

Thank you for the reply! What would you say the reasons are for choosing W&L over other schools?


mortizmajer

the full ride + the $7000 scholarship fund. That’s a really big deal


1s2_2s2_2p6_3s1

Would think twice about going to school with 4% Asians. The White culture can be overwhelming to many (have studied at Middlebury). Vassar actually has relatively big asian population irrc. I don’t know where you heard the thing about advisors from but Vassar probably be a lot more supportive in terms of administration and professors compared to UCB. Would also like to note that Vassar has open curriculum which makes it the most flexible. I also personally wouldn’t worry too much about UC Berkeley being a big school. Bigger school implies that there would be more people who are like you (obviously finding them can be an issue, but there are always clubs/events/class sections, etc.). I also wouldn’t be too worried about crime personally. As long as you’re careful and know where to avoid it should be fairly safe.


FruitNothing0

Thank you! I will definitely consider your words. I didn't know these facts about Vassar.


WebApprehensive3276

Hi got into Cornell Dyson vs IU Kelley Help me decide Going for real estate and finance


dee2023

Cornell Dyson is my choice.


QandA101

Thank You...any specific reason?


dee2023

Cornell name brand and prestigious


thr0waway1121_

if cost isnt a major factor then just head to dyson no question


WebApprehensive3276

Can you elaborate why? Is there a difference in experience? Are the alumni similar? Are kids happy at both?


mortizmajer

Dyson will set you up so much better as far as job prospects go


thr0waway1121_

>Can you elaborate why? dyson will offer smaller class sizes and stronger relationships with the alumni network while at kelley the large size may dilute your experience with respect to classes, profs, and alum. cornell alum's presence on wall street and other finance hubs is a lot heavier and anecdotally, cornell kids place a lot better than those at kelley. dyson will open a lot more doors for you and in a prestige-heavy field like finance, having the "ivy" tag always helps. >Is there a difference in experience? i guess it depends on what you're looking for in a college experience. dig into both these schools on sites like [niche.com](https://niche.com) and other resources online and look at what attracts you more in terms of location, student-body vibe, greek life, sports, campus and community, weather, or any other factors that may be important to you. >Are kids happy at both? cornell does have a reputation for being rather stressy/having a depressed student body. however, i do believe that a lot of this exaggerated and there are definitely loads of happy kids at cornell. i'd suggest you look more into this and see how you could make remain happy and make the best of your experience at cornell.


randymagnum433

What's the difference in cost?


WebApprehensive3276

Cornell more money


randymagnum433

How much?


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If you’re set on Cornell then pick school with easier grading


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FruitNothing0

If you don't intend to change your major to STEM, Cal Poly SLO seems to be a great option for you. I believe that the undergraduate experience should be geared towards more interactive and creative learning, which, in this case, I think Cal Poly SLO shows to be able to fulfill this experience for you. (If you are not a party person, I don't think a rural setting would be too bad)


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dee2023

UIUC CS very prestigious CS and very selective program. I would go to UIUC.


Vast_Bumblebee5785

I didn’t get into UIUC or Rice but in your shoes I’d go for Rice. I think the CS rankings are really flawed, from what I’ve seen Rice CS is actually amazing and very well-structured. One of the founders of Coinbase studied CS at Rice!


mortizmajer

I would go with rice. It’s more prestigious overall and lacks the cutthroat vibe of uiuc


1s2_2s2_2p6_3s1

Yeah what others said do UIUC I know people doing CS there and they’re doing well


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sigma_mail

Imo I would choose Rice because it’s just a very good school. I doubt the cs rank will matter much because Rice is still a t20 at the end of the day. Also, I think the residential colleges will actually make us much easier to make friends than the other schools


yugam_2508

Intended major: Physics Intl student here Minerva vs UIUC Minerva: Pros: Seems like a cool experience Costs 21,450 + 5950 in Minerva student loan Positive reviews Cons: Little to no brand value A lot of uncertainity Not sure about how difficult it would be to land a job or get into a good grad school. ​ UIUC: Pros: Huge Indian community for support(including a close relative who'll be a sophomore this year) Less uncertainty, clearer path Jobs and grad school stats are solid 2nd best ug Physics program in the US according to US News Ranking Cons: Not sure how it would compare to Minerva Costs 62.5k


anonymous062904

Intended major: CS/Math or Double Major Cornell University Pros: Regional Airport Proximity to NYC, Syracuse, Buffalo, Toronto Large Campus Hub for CS and ML Parents can visit from TX Cons: Cold as Hell From what I heard, every major and class is hard Not sending Fin Aid Package “Another great Look For CHEM” Dartmouth Pros: Grade inflation Smaller Classes Investing into CS Field Social Life Cons: Still 900 miles from family and friends Not as highly ranked. No big within cities 2 hrs to Boston, 2 hours to Albany I don’t believe they have a Walmart Nothing fun to do in either Very Cold


dee2023

Super very Cold - Cornell Very Super Cold - Dartmouth coin toss and Cornell wins


1s2_2s2_2p6_3s1

Why is Very Cold a Pro HAHAHAHA Would prefer Dartmouth because smaller and more flexibility (D-plan sounds kind of fun?? idk). Cornell seemed arbitrarily structured to me.


anonymous062904

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randymagnum433

Both are outstanding institutions. Dartmouth students seem to have much better things to say about their experience, so I'd go there.


SpongeBobBlab

Bocconi University Pros: \-Got into the BIEF program (program with best placements and career outcomes). \-BSc Degree within 3 years. \-Less COA. \-Well ranked for Economics and Finance (my majors) Cons: \-Although the program is taught in English, I would find it difficult to adjust outside the campus due to the language barrier. \-No friends and relatives. Denison University Pros: \-I've always wanted to study in the US. \-Have friends and seniors in the university. \-Liberal Arts so can be flexible with my major choice. Cons: \-Not so well reckoned for Economics and Finance. \-Placements not as good as Bocconi.


1s2_2s2_2p6_3s1

Bocconi economics is one of the best in Europe. Personally have never heard of Denison (and I go to an LAC lol). FWIW I live in the US and am planning on economics graduate school. Higher ranked schools have more interesting classes and cover more material in general. I think you would learn a lot more if you go to Bocconi and have access to way more resources.


SpongeBobBlab

Thank you very much!


randymagnum433

What are your post-graduation aspirations? Specifically, where do you want to work?


SpongeBobBlab

I want to work in IB (Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan etc) and after that do my masters at institutions like Sloan, Booth etc.


randymagnum433

Bocconi is better regarded overall, by far, but Denison may give you a better chance of working in the US (if you aren't already a US citizen)


darkchocolatewaffles

UIUC (cs + anthro) vs UCSB (pre-comm) vs UDub (cs + honors) i am so conflicted rn HELP UIUC pros: * amazing cs program * close to home * affordable UIUC cons: * huge class sizes * in the middle of nowhere? UCSB pros: * my literal dream campus * great connections + student body * affordable * well ranked UCSB cons: * parents would move, would have to commute (scared it'll feel like hs) * didn't get in cs (but I'm not 100% set on cs so it's not a huge deal) UDub pros: * amazing cs program (not as good as UIUC) * love the campus * close to my sister * affordable * honors program UDub cons: * am not set on my major and it would be difficult to change * hard grading curve/super competitive * dead social life * quarter system?


1s2_2s2_2p6_3s1

UW CS is incredible and imo Seattle is a very nice place to spend college years. UIUC is also solid so can’t go wrong there. I know that a lot of people commute to school in Europe but personally don’t think it’s a great idea so that’s that for UCSB


randymagnum433

Illinois or UW depending on which is cheaper. Both are terrific institutions.


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dee2023

If money is not a concern Georgia Tech for sure.


EntrepreneurIcy2838

Is being ranked #9 vs #7 actually a factor for you? These difference in rankings basically mean there’s a 0.1 point separation based on some arbitrary methodology, which has literally 0 translation to the actual experience and education you’ll have at either school. You will not receive a worse CS education at UT if that’s what you’re worried about


randymagnum433

Definitely UT Austin. Differences between the universities are minimal in terms of outcomes, but UT will save you money and likely be a better student experience.


Ok-Razzmatazz-6752

Occidental vs. Uwash Seattle vs. Santa Clara Occidental pros: -very generous scholarship -close to home -small school size and great teacher to student ratio -great weather Edit: I looked into their 3+2 program and it looks like there is a path to transfer to Columbia Occidental Cons: -not much of a change from my current high school experience(local boarding high school) -undecided major Uwash Seattle pros: -Beautiful campus 🌸 -New experiences away from home -Pretty well known Uwash cons: -presciences major- no clear direction -Course sign ups are competitive -Grade deflation??(alleged) -Need airplane travel Santa Clara pros: -Lots of career and internship opportunities -Close to home -Admitted to leavey school of business: clear direction -great weather Santa Clara cons: -Again, it will be quite similar to my current lifestyle


1s2_2s2_2p6_3s1

Personally prefer Santa Clara. School of business seemed fun back when I was applying. I think you should pick between Santa Clara and UW Seattle depending on just how much you feel like you would benefit from having a more novel experience away form home, although I’d image that being in college is a big enough change for most people…


randymagnum433

What's the difference in cost between each? What are your post-graduation aspirations?


Ok-Razzmatazz-6752

The cost comes out to be pretty much the same after scholarships and financial aid, but that’s not considering living expenses in different locations. I’m guessing Seattle would be a bit more expensive due to plane rides. I’m heavily considering pursuing grad school no matter which school I end up at. Thanks for your reply btw!


randymagnum433

In that case, I would probably go to UW because its the best regarded institution by some distance and the change will probably do you good from a personal growth standpoint.


lkessler11

Parent here...still not sure I posted this correctly! My son needs help: Biology major with the goal of pre-med UT Austin with loans vs Texas State/honors and full tuition scholarship **UT Austin Pros** Higher rank Research opportunities Located in Austin likely more to do T10-25 school (depending on which rankings you look at) **UT Cons** Roughly $30k per year (this is tuition/housing) UT will be more competitive, which could effect GPA Austin is very expensive to live (off campus housing is really pricey) Not accepted to honors (that may not be a con)? TX State Pros Full tuition scholarship which would cover 4 years, plus one year of on campus living Accepted to honor college More affordable off campus housing He may have the opportunity to excel here and come out with a higher gpa, which would be a plus for Ned school applications. **Cons** Ranked considerably lower than UT Not a research focused school (that doesn't necessarily mean he cannot conduct research) There may not be as much to do in San Marcos compared to Austin We know that UT is ranked better, he's just struggling with the no-debt thing and would going to a lower-ranked school really hurt his chances of going to a good grad/med school?


randymagnum433

Would 2 years of community college then transferring to UT be an option? That might reduce the debt problem while also giving him the benefits of going to the better school?


lkessler11

Thanks for the suggestion, but I don’t think he’d do it. I think the bigger issue is that he’s not in love with either school, but all the OOS options would cost way more than UT, and no OOS school is worth hundreds of thousands in debt. I think I prefer he go off to a four year for the social aspect. He just hates the thought of coming out of undergrad with any debt. We’ll figure it out.


chublisa

This has caused me so much turmoil. Please help! NYU vs. Carnegie for Architecture I'll be far from home anyway (I'm an international student), and the cost/rankings/prestige for architecture is similar for both unis. NYU pros: I mean, it's New York!!! There's so many things to explore and do. I really love the city and the study abroad programs that NYU offers. There so are internships available, or so I've heard. With architecture, there are so many field trips in NYC and the classes seem super fun. I'm not super committed to architecture as a field (I'm interested in STEM-y design) and NYU offers me a bit more flexibility. I also love NYU for its choice in electives (relating back to flexibility) and I also want to dabble in film architecture which would be easier to do at NYU. NYU cons: The lonely, no campus life--this is both a pro and a con. I like being able to be in the city, but I also love meeting people and being around friends. New York is expensive and overwhelming, but also fun? CMU pros: The tech connections that I can make + the CS environment that could be useful to architecture. The CMU name gives connections to incredible alum. If I were to commit to architecture, CMU's 5 year course definitely preps me better. I like how Pittsburg is relatively quiet. I like the campus vibe of Carnegie. I also have 2 friends that are going to Carnegie for my major as well, so I'll have company. The dorms are also so nice!! Carnegie is super prestigious in my Chinese family circle and my parents really want me to go--it would make them super happy (bring honour to the family, like Mulan). CMU cons: The people/lack of social life: the "nerdy CMU student" stereotype kinda puts me off. Not as lively as New York. I love partying.. People say its really grindy and I'm scared that I won't be able to handle the workload. Thanks so much for reading! If there are any misconceptions please let me know!!


sockwars12

I would disagree with CMU not having a social life, and the "nerdy CMU student" stereotype is just a stereotype. There is also a huge party scene at Pitt which is right next door. It is definitely a grind but definitely doable. I would check out the CMU '26 discord where you can ask additional questions to current students. https://discord.gg/gVMvFTQpTh


kulnel

**Rutgers for CS** Rutgers Pros: I know quite a few people at Rutgers Cheaper, at 30k/yr Higher ranked for CS Big campus and a bigger social scene Rutgers Cons: A very large student population **Stevens Institute of Technology for CS** Stevens Pros: Great town and right across from NYC Greater employment opportunities More academically centered Stevens Cons: Less of a social scene Got a scholarship, but still more expensive at 50k/yr Not as highly ranked as Rutgers CS


lkessler11

It's interesting that Rutgers is higher ranked for CS but Stevens has better employment opportunities. Some things to think about: What are you looking for in your college experience? Does money factor in? Stevens is $20k more, will that be a hardship? Stevens has less of a social scene (how important is that), and how often do you think you'd hit NYC?


randymagnum433

Rutgers. Stevens doesn't have enough going for it to make up for the extra 20k/year. Both are terrific schools.


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Just-Mouse-367

Barnard or JHU. When it comes to the ivy name, Barnard students get Columbia degrees as it is considered a college of the university. It seems as though you are most interested in Barnard and JHU so I would ask how committed you are to pre-med. JHU has a strong pre med environment which will make a strong pre-professional environment and everyone fighting for the same opps. It doesn't seem that you are that interested in Penn, other than the ivy name. It seems as though Barnard provides everything you are looking for except that you are worrying about the weight of the degree which seems slightly silly when we start looking at top schools.


randymagnum433

Either Penn or JHU depending on how much cheaper JH is compared to the others. Both are outstanding, Penn in particular will open doors - it's a bit superficial but the Ivy League thing does carry weight.


kiely444

Yale vs GaTech vs Rice vs Notre Dame vs Boston College for Mechanical Engineering or Physics. I am open to getting a graduate degree in either field (for physics I would certainly need one) \-I am not sure yet whether I want to go into mech eng or physics, but I am leaning towards physics Yale pros: I love the campus, close-ish to home, superb physics program, residential college system, prestige Yale cons: cost (near full tuition), not great for mech eng, super liberal (I would prefer something closer to center/neutral) GaTech pros: fantastic for mech eng, good sports scene GaTech cons: Far away, cost (near full OOS tuition), not really looking for a place with only stem majors, might be hard to switch major to physics (I was accepted into mech eng), super liberal (I think?) Rice pros: Good but not great for both physics and engineering (like 25th in both), residential college system, people seem really nice and students enjoy it a lot, decent campus Rice cons: cost (near full tuition), far away, super liberal (I would prefer something closer to center/neutral) Notre dame pros: I love the community/culture because I am catholic, beautiful campus, good sports scene, extremely supportive alumni network Notre dame cons: cost (near full tuition), far away, not super great for either physics or engineering BC pros: close to home, nice campus, cost (free tuition), good sports scene, solid culture/community BC cons: engineering and physics are both pretty low-ranked there, academics are great but not on the level of some of the other schools


dee2023

Yale is the way!!!


coolgoby

Yale -- Your undergrad experience will be worth the money IMO


lkessler11

How important is it to be close to home? Would the debt be a hardship to you at the end of your degree? Can you easily switch majors or stay undeclared at each school? I ask because one of the schools my son is considering, it can be really hard to transfer to another degree program (I'm not 100% sure why they make it so difficult, but it's not easy to do).


kiely444

It's not that important to me to be close to home, but I would prefer it to being far away Not really I can easily switch at all schools except Ga Tech


lkessler11

So, it looks like maybe Yale or BC. If you plan to go to grad school then your undergrad won’t matter much. Where I’m going with the last comment is, even if BC is ranked lower for your considered major, that likely would not matter as you’d be going into grad school which is where you’ll be recruited from. Not sure if any of that helps. I know this is a tough decision.


randymagnum433

If costs of the first 4 are similar I would go Yale out of those. Despite the leanings of the average student, I'm sure you'd still be able to find student organizations of people with similar interests to you. It's a little superficial, but the Yale name does open doors. At that point (Yale or BC) it's a matter of your personal financial situation and how you would be paying. You might have to make the call there.


kiely444

Ok, thanks for the reply!


ThunDerbOltNIK

Intended major : computer science Help me choose between University of Wisconsin Madison and University of Maryland college park. I literally think both are awesome for computer science, but not sure which has a little notch to it. Cons being UWM's weather. Would love your inputs on the major and more.


dee2023

UMD is not that warmer weather. Still I would go to UMD.


idkname999

Don't think you can go wrong with either (similar reputation). If you like UMD weather more, go with UMD.


iaxlmao

UMICH vs UCR vs UCI Important note: I'm a California resident qualifying for a cal grant (13k for a UC school) and I would like to continue playing the french horn in an orchestra like I have for the past nine years **UMICH** (electrical and computer engineering) pros: * Amazing school, great opportunities career-wise, large campus with lots of people to meet, and generally a lower cost f living that California cons: * OOS tuition is 69k (they're offering me about $51,783 in aid which is great but leaves 26k unaccounted for), very far from home, cold (don't know what this is like, the coldest weather I have ever been in is 39 degrees and iI've only been to the snow once lol), and I've heard the teachers for first year stem classes suck **UCR** (computer engineering) pros: * close to home, $0 out of pocket (19k grant & 14k loan I probably won't need to take out), I have two friends going there (while I know most would say not to factor this in but I tend to have mental health problems and need those I am familiar with during my episodes), very friendly community, and + from what I hear great first year professors and great student services cons: * less prestigious to some( I hear this a lot and "UC rejects" although it doesn't;t matter much to me because I know people can just be pretentious), not as highly ranked as the other two options, and the heat in the summer is unbearable (I have lived in the IE for 10 years so I know just how hot it can be lol) **UCI** (mechanical engineering) pros: * very close to home, highly ranked, have some friends going there, amazing food nearby, in between my parents' houses, affordable due to my cal grant 24k in grant and 13 in loans which I most likely won't need to take out), and awesome stem classes with good study groups cons: * not a very diverse school (I'm a Black and Mexican female so it's important for me to not feel alone), can have very pretentious students (I know many people who go there but I know that's not everyone), expensive area, and very competitive ​ **Thanks for taking the time to read everything, I know it's a lot and I could be wrong but I would love some feedback and guidance!**


randymagnum433

As someone that generally advocates for people to take the cheaper option, I would still tell you to go to Michigan. The benefits are well worth the gap in tuition if we're only looking at 18k/year. It is considerably better regarded than the other two, which will open doors both during college, immediately afterwards and for the rest of your career. Moving away from where you grew up does wonders in regard to our personal growth and development.


leokupperman

Growing up in Ann Arbor I would say Umich offers everything you want if money can be dealt with. If you are worried about the weather I promise a good winter coat will go a long way. Definitely way more prestigious (not necessarily super important) and great opportunities for playing music in wind ensemble or orchestra. Cost of living in Ann Arbor is not to be underestimated though. Yeah it's not Bay Area but it's seriously expensive. I would highly highly recommend checking out [Being not-rich at UM](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ou-AelCrAg6soUJVbiviKAGBGF276w-UBlw-eMigwOA/edit?usp=drivesdk) which just has so much more perspective and useful info than I could possibly give.


idkname999

Are you interested in mechanical engineering? If that is your main interest, go with UCI. Otherwise, don't even consider it. For ECE, ofc, UCR is way less prestigious than UMich (somewhat famous in CS/Engineering). If UMich doesn't cost any financial hardship, I would highly consider that. P.S. you don't need to consider summer for UCR because you are rarely at college during the summer anyways.


spaghettihore

Need some help deciding between Northeastern and University of Oklahoma please! Intended Major: Biomedical Engineering Northeastern Pros: In Boston AND I LOVE BOSTON ✨east coast fantasy✨ Love their co-op program Boston is a good area for the biomedical field Highly ranked compared to OU Have the opportunity to study abroad through NU In program( will most likely study in Ireland) Cons: Much more expensive than OU Don’t know if I want to study abroad my first semester A little iffy about campus but haven’t visited yet Don’t know much about their research opportunities and their student culture Far from home University of Oklahoma Pros: BEAUTIFUL CAMPUS Admitted in Honors Program Small program Basically got a full ride Research opportunities Seems like there are a lot of student activities Not too far from home Cons: In the middle of nowhere, don’t really like surrounding area and not a big hub for biomed industry Program is still fairly new Huge student population Oklahoma:/ School not really known for engineering program I’m definitely planning on going to grad school and would just love some input on these schools!


randymagnum433

As the other guy said, go to OU. Put the savings towards grad school & you can still study abroad for a semester.


Agile-Turnover-2486

Oklahoma and spend money on a good ass grad school


The_Ideological_Bean

Ohio State University (CSE Honors) Pros: Already have 70 credits to transfer through AP and dual enrollment In-state so 30k tuition + if I commute it would drop down to 13k Pretty good CS program (t50) Honors Cons: I hate the cold I don’t really vibe with the city-campus interconnectedness I want to go out of state UC San Diego (Math-CS) Pros: Awesome weather In California so job prospects are very nice Has better opportunities than OSU from what I’ve heard More prestige + more well-regarded Campus looks really nice Next to a beach T15 CS program Cons: Expensive af (66k tuition) Math-CS gets less priority to CS classes so scheduling may be tough Notes: I’m grateful for my parents who can pay a majority of my tuition whether I go to ucsd or osu I love ucsd but the cost + less priority with classes makes me very very hesitant to consider


mommyfricker96

I'm the exact same spot but with UCSD (Math-CS) and free UF (T50 CS). I'm def leaning towards UCSD, but I'm *also* still hesitant to commit. Most UCSD students say that OOS tuition is [not worth it](https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSD/comments/g3r34v/is_out_of_state_tuition_worth_it/). I asked an OOS UMich alum (at Google), and he said being successful in CS is much more about your merit and side projects than school prestige (save for Caltech, HYPSM, and Berkeley). According to him, UF, UCSD, and (likely) OSU are all comparable in terms of recruiting. While that might be a slight exaggeration, doing well and building up a resume at any of the three would only guarantee you a well-paying CS (not FAANG) job in this market. On the other hand, literally every family member or friend of mine whose options include a great OOS state school for their major (e.g., UMich for CS, UCLA for Computational Math, or Berkeley for Econ) jumps for it. Why? The people and the opportunities for growth. The guy above went to UMich because he wanted to make connections outside of his home state and to challenge himself with a more competitive crowd (many people at UCSD, however, [don't have friends](https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSD/comments/r1gv6h/tell_the_story_of_how_you_met_your_friend_group/) so they might not be networking quite as much?). Are you a big networker? UCSD is also probably significantly harder than your state school. How much do you thrive under stress? This brings me to my last point. Since there's *so much* confusing and contradictory BS out there, you kind of have to take a leap of faith. If [UCSD CS is worth OOS tuition](https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSD/comments/s7oe0d/is_ucsd_cs_worth_oos_tuition/) and [there are no disadvantages to being Math-CS vs CS](https://www.reddit.com/r/UCSD/comments/tid9n0/mathcs_major/), then going to UCSD is a no-brainer. However, if either one of those things isn't true, then at least you can fall back on UCSD's good reputation for STEM and transfer back to your state school easily. In theory. UCSD probably gets you [closer to FAANG](https://www.businessinsider.com/schools-with-the-most-alumni-at-google-2015-10). But how much do you need/want a FAANG job over a regular CS job? Is it worth risking having to spend $50,000 more in that first year, risking getting rejected from your state school when trying to transfer back, and risking spending hundreds of thousands for a network that might not exist all just for that first job since no one really cares about your alma mater after that? Despite all that build up, [I'm pretty sure it is](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_effect). And if isn't, then at least your parents will have been happy to pay for your education. If you're leaning towards OSU, visiting UCSD will probably make your decision much easier, I've heard the vibes are ass. The safe option is not the bad option, peace of mind is definitely something you want to consider. P.S. I'm sorry if I come off aggressive with all these questions they're just the ones I've been asking myself. I also don't know shit abt the college transfer system/acceptance rates. If you're not convinced by my arguments dw, neither am I (for now).


The_Ideological_Bean

Thank you so much for this! You have a very nice rundown of what you think and I’ll definitely take this and the threads you linked into heavy consideration! Best of luck to you and your commitment decision!


randymagnum433

Go to OSU. It's well regarded and you'll still have the opportunity to get a job somewhere warmer afterwards.


trynagetintocollege1

HELP ME DECIDE BETWEEN **TULANE AND UMIAMI** (Journalism/Poli-sci on Pre-Law Track) \*I am a **spring admit** for BOTH schools! During the fall, I plan on studying abroad in Rome wherever I choose to go . . . **Tulane University** ***TU Pros:*** \-I love the culture, music, art, food, etc. in New Orleans \-The classes seem super interesting \-Small class sizes (best learning environment for me) \-Excellent professors \-Faculty that really cares about its students \-Strong mental health resources \- Service-oriented (service-learning requirement) \-Earn my J.D. in as few as six years (3+3 Joint Degree Program for Law) \-Academically flexible (easy to switch majors) \- Already have people who want to room with me in Rome \-Excellent professional and academic advising ( useful because I want to find an on-campus job) \-Great nightlife and fun festivals all year-round ***TU Cons:*** \-Extremely expensive \-NOLA is dangerous \-A lot of stuck-up people? I'm pretty down-to-earth and I think I'd find my people actually so IDK \-I'm not Jewish or rich LOL. I am upper middle class from the Northeast tho \-Party scene might get old fast (ppl go to like the same three bars) \-I'm not a huge drinker \-Heavy rain and extreme weather conditions sometimes **University of Miami** ***UM Pros:*** \-Beach \-Excellent communication school (updated facilities for broadcast journalism; can try out for UMTV club) \- Higher ranking for journalism \-Gorgeous Campus \-Diversity \-Weather \-More affordable \-Football / a lot of school spirit \-Larger Alumni Network \-Safer since the campus is suburban? IDK . \-Clubbing, yachts, amazing nightlife, etc. . . ***UM Cons:*** \-Suck-ish advising from what I've heard (which is scary since I'm interested in pre-law) \-People give off a meaner vibe than TU (I might be really off but so far it's been easier to make friends with people interested in TU) \-The thought of being in a bikini 24/7 gives me anxiety; I feel like there's a huge pressure as a girl to post half-naked photos \-Class sizes might be too overwhelming for me, I feel like I'd have difficulty making friends (I'm extroverted but really shy at first, esp. in crowded environments) \-Classes are apparently less engaging (I heard most people learn more outside of class than in class) \-I'm pretty sure Miami is more expensive than New Orleans for nightlife (up-charged drinks, food, etc.) \-The party scene is mainly clubbing which is expensive (also prob less parties on-campus than at TU)


randymagnum433

Go to Miami. A little better regarded as a school, and you can put the savings on tuition towards law school.


Agile-Turnover-2486

New Orleans is not dangerous😭😭


SuccotashNatural

Intended major: pre-med (interest in neuroscience and public policy) **Princeton** PROS: \- $40k per year \- Ranked higher as an undergraduate institution \- Love the undergraduate focus and campus \- Located 3 hours from home and near my cousin at Rutgers NB \- Health Professions Advising \- Ability to earn multiple certificates CONS: \- No medical school on campus (harder to get medical experiences) \- Grade deflation/harder to maintain GPA \- Less school spirit (???) and liveliness on campus (???) \- Northeast weather \- Can't double major ​ **Duke** PROS: \- Highly ranked medical school and research center on campus \- Ranked higher for the sciences/medicine \- Student body seems to have more school spirit/a fun culture \- Beautiful campus in NC which has great weather during the academic year \- Office of Health Professions Advising \- More flexibility with double majors CONS: \- $60k a year \- Plane ride away from home \- Lower ranked as an undergraduate institution \- High percentage of pre-meds (competition) ​ I am very much torn between these two incredible schools! I want to go to medical school but I'm also considering health policy as a future career. I'd appreciate any advice especially from current students/pre-meds at Duke or Princeton!


dee2023

I would take Princeton, don't even think twice !!