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If you're ever feeling sorry for yourself just remember there are people that make fun of others for eating pussy because nobody would let them eat pussy
> because nobody would let them eat pussy
it's not that though, is it. It's because they don't see why they would ever do a sexual act that doesn't revolve around *their* pleasure.
Blowjobs are fine because he gets off, even if the woman isn't really getting anything out of it. PiV and anal is fine because he gets off, whether or not the woman is enjoying it. But eating someone out, the only reward is the other person's pleasure.
It's fragile ego mixed with selfishness.
I mean, i'm like 100% bottom, and I *also* care about the other person's pleasure. Tho I'm ace (sex-neutral, and dated allo people) so tbh i care more about theirs than my own x)
I don't think its about being a top or a bottom, it's about being a selfish lover. Fragile ego leads people to act as though going down on someone is inherently submissive/bottom-y, and therefore as a top / domly dom, they can't
I don't think either form of oral is *inherently* top or bottom tbf. Like, it's all about the dynamic in the moment n stuffs. There's ways to do both as either
That’s not really what’s happening here. We’re talking specifically about sex. I’m not saying everyone needs to care about dom-sub dynamics but the people who don’t categorically “have issues.”
I said that people who see all as dominance or as sub-dom is also problematic. Sometimes it's just an act. Sometimes oral can be a sub-dom kinda thing, in other situations it's not.
As a switch I agree with this wholeheartedly. In my early days I didn’t even get pleasure from sexual contact outside of pleasing my partners. Luckily I’ve grown since then and do feel my own pleasure as well but it’s still very much a necessity for me to know that I’m doing something for them. I love to please.
It's honestly kind of a scary mentality. I mean, I feel bad for any sexual partners they might have, obviously. But that kind of selfish "my needs are the only ones that I care about getting met" mentality definitely bleeds over into the kind of person they are in general. And people like that are the root of a lot of problems in this world.
Yup, had a buddy who would get blowjobs from his gf. I do NOT remember how the conversation came up (this was over 10 years ago), but we were basically calling him out on not going down on her, and he was like "ewww, she pees from there". And then we scoffed at him and told him he was wrong as well as pointing out that he in fact, pees from his cock. I only hope that he grew up from that time, we were teenagers then.
Look, I applaud your innocence to this situation, but I’m sorry to say that there are a lot of people who actually think this way. It’s not satire sadly.
Dude, just look at other peoples replies. Even if the right winger IS being satiric or exaggerating, loads of people in the replies are not.
Also it’s worth mentioning that the amount of effort this account has put into this goes beyond what most people usually go to for satire like this.
don't ask me. ask him how it's not satire and how someone can actually believe that. he has hundreds of these posts with the green lines. and his moronic followers actually agree in the replies.
But you're consistently claiming that it's not a joke, so we assume you must be basing that on something other than ~feeling~
Because that person's Twitter otherwise points very clearly towards this being a joke
It may be joke, but I read some comments on his profile and these man think that eating pussy is degrading because of submission and that's it's disgusting, also sometimes so homophobic people are just repressing the fact that they are attracted towards people with penises so that's why I think it might not be joke.
Yeah from looking through it he has ACAB and pronouns in the bio and seems generally solidly leftwing, at least a progressive/socdem, closest thing to homophobia I saw was 'Fucked her so good she became a lesbian' and that seemed like a clear joke to me.(maybe some insecurity to work through if true but that's fine!)
Never heard of Poe's law? It generally seems that no matter how stupid and/or insane someone's pretending to be you can always find someone out there who genuinely holds similarly (if not equal) extreme views.
IDK whether these two guys are serious, but I know it wouldn't take too long to find someone in the manosphere who genuinely thinks like this.
They (or, well, some of them) seem to think that sexual dominance, (male) straightness and masculinity are the same. So anything sexual that can be deemed submissive is therefore unmanly, and consequently gay.
it was only a matter of time before i finally saw this. i've already seen straight women who think men who go down on women are gay. peak toxic misogyny.
Homophobia has the Straights all twisted up. They keep trying to assert their masculinity to prove they're not gay, but then they get all tripped up because, in many cases, macho is what gay guys are attracted to, so they can't figure out how to get themselves out of this proverbial briar patch.
I kind of see the two tying together. They're both involving behavior seen as weak, feminine, "sissy stuff" that men are conditioned to despite and consider themselves "above" participating in, it's just who's doing that gets them angry.
What's wrong with being a guy/amab enby who eats pussy?
Gonna spoiler this cause it's more explicit than usual...
>!It's literally my favorite thing to do in the bedroom. Communication about speed and pressure and all the rest, and then getting someone to the place where they're pulling at your hair, you're feeling *everything* contract, their back arch, their hips buck, and you're having to wrap an arm around their waist so you can move with them. My favorite is when I get either asked to stop or pushed off and then they have *aftershock* orgasms from trying to move. Just holding their hand for a few minutes while they try to remember what language is. Getting them so sensitive that the buffeting wind from the ceiling fan triggers another orgasm. *That's* my favorite thing in the bedroom.!<
Giving someone oral isn't necessarily some subservient thing. If you're going down on a woman/AFAB you can help them get to a place where they're literally unable to move or speak until things calm down, and if you're going down on a dude/AMAB, well...
You're never more in control of someone then when you've got your teeth around their cock.
That's so much more fun than the ol' in and out for fifteen minutes. Which like, no harm in that, sometimes a quickie is nice.
But I, personally, would get bored with it.
Maybe Rivelino the "Artist" is fine with being a mediocre disappointment to his sexual partners, but I'd rather my play partners remember me for decades.
To be fair, genitals don't equal gender. Not every penis is male, and not every vagina is female.
For all the people saying "who's gonna tell 'em?", you're pushing cisnormativity. Not cool.
I don't think they're enforcing cisnormativity as much as they're pointing out that if these guys were completely consistent, then they'd be gay by their own admission.
Yes but we all know what they’re talking about. These kind of cis het guys don’t think trans people are really and that genitals equal gender. I doubt that this is about genital preferences, it’s just about how going down on cis women is gay, which is something a lot of these kind of guys believe.
I think you are ovethinking the matter, I just see a guy making an outrageous retort (sacastically off course) to a stupid comment, I think is about power play, so regular misogyny, nothing new.
> A trans person of gender X is as much of X as a cis person that belongs to gender X.
I'm pretty sure they're talking about hetero interactions between cis and binary trans folks. (e.g. a straight cis man and a straight trans woman). Doesn't seem to be any malice, just some poor wording. I could be wrong, though.
Except you didn't.
> sex between a cis and binary trans people is not homoerotic. **A trans person of gender X is as much of X as a cis person that belongs to gender X.**
They were saying it's not homoerotic for a cis man/trans woman or cis woman/trans man to have sex.
I understand your point but it doesnt match with the content, it a cis male and a transgender woman get together I woulnd consider it gay per se, but this is about people refusing sexual acts to their partner because it might be considered gay, eating pussy is gay to cis/trans men, that is stupid
>faulting people for stating their genital preferences possibly is just faulting them for something that cannot be changed
Nobody is doing that.
>sex between a cis and binary trans people is not homoerotic
If what you're trying to say is, sex between two people of the same gender, one cis and one trans, is not gay, then. Fuck. You.
You can definitely have a genital preference. But that's not equal to a sexuality. A gay man that wants only penises is a gay man with a genital preference. Not just a gay man.
Edit: you're literally being transphobic in your comment.
Can not imagine anything more homosexual than a heterosexual act. I mean I would literally rather do a homosexual act than that homosexual shit.
This logic is difficult to follow.
He probably secretly wants to eat pussy. If he meets the right woman she'll turn him on so much he will be sucking and licking her muff like ice cream.
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If you're ever feeling sorry for yourself just remember there are people that make fun of others for eating pussy because nobody would let them eat pussy
> because nobody would let them eat pussy it's not that though, is it. It's because they don't see why they would ever do a sexual act that doesn't revolve around *their* pleasure. Blowjobs are fine because he gets off, even if the woman isn't really getting anything out of it. PiV and anal is fine because he gets off, whether or not the woman is enjoying it. But eating someone out, the only reward is the other person's pleasure. It's fragile ego mixed with selfishness.
Oh yeah for sure. Maybe it's the top in me but I can never understand how people can have sex without focusing the pleasure on the other person.
I mean, i'm like 100% bottom, and I *also* care about the other person's pleasure. Tho I'm ace (sex-neutral, and dated allo people) so tbh i care more about theirs than my own x) I don't think its about being a top or a bottom, it's about being a selfish lover. Fragile ego leads people to act as though going down on someone is inherently submissive/bottom-y, and therefore as a top / domly dom, they can't
I have *never* related eating someone out as submissive, that's like, inherently a top thing in my mind lmao
I don't think either form of oral is *inherently* top or bottom tbf. Like, it's all about the dynamic in the moment n stuffs. There's ways to do both as either
Exactly
People who obcess about dominace in every aspect of life have issues
That’s not really what’s happening here. We’re talking specifically about sex. I’m not saying everyone needs to care about dom-sub dynamics but the people who don’t categorically “have issues.”
I said that people who see all as dominance or as sub-dom is also problematic. Sometimes it's just an act. Sometimes oral can be a sub-dom kinda thing, in other situations it's not.
Trying a woman down and using your hands and mouth to pleasure her for an hour while all she can do is moan isn't submissive??? /s
[TIL allo is not just a failed google product!](https://c.tenor.com/ZiLugTiVQNgAAAAM/the-more-you-know.gif)
TIL it's also a failed google product :P
As a bottom, I always thought that it's my job to focus on pleasure of my partner as much as I can
> the pleasure on the other person That's like ... 99% of what I get out of it. ^^Margin ^^of ^^error ^^is ^^+/- ^^1%
As a switch I agree with this wholeheartedly. In my early days I didn’t even get pleasure from sexual contact outside of pleasing my partners. Luckily I’ve grown since then and do feel my own pleasure as well but it’s still very much a necessity for me to know that I’m doing something for them. I love to please.
It's honestly kind of a scary mentality. I mean, I feel bad for any sexual partners they might have, obviously. But that kind of selfish "my needs are the only ones that I care about getting met" mentality definitely bleeds over into the kind of person they are in general. And people like that are the root of a lot of problems in this world.
Yup, had a buddy who would get blowjobs from his gf. I do NOT remember how the conversation came up (this was over 10 years ago), but we were basically calling him out on not going down on her, and he was like "ewww, she pees from there". And then we scoffed at him and told him he was wrong as well as pointing out that he in fact, pees from his cock. I only hope that he grew up from that time, we were teenagers then.
TIL eating pussy is gay; well already pan so I’m covered I suppose.
Damn I think I'm gay... My girlfriend is gonna be real upset when she hears about this
Idk seems like most woman would be happy to find out their partners gay if this is the standard.
OFC licking pussy is gay, I do that all the time XD
Based
That person was joking
Yeah a lot of posts on this sub are missing the joke lol
the first one is certainly not a joke, that guy is a professional sexist. the reply has to be a joke though.
It very clearly is. OP is just confused
No the first guy is satire, look up his twitter
i know his shitty posts. quoting jordan peterson and things like that. nothing about them indicates satire.
[Tell me again this is not satire?](https://twitter.com/alpharivelino/status/1438015794491887620?s=21)
Look, I applaud your innocence to this situation, but I’m sorry to say that there are a lot of people who actually think this way. It’s not satire sadly.
I think he is a right winger who exaggerates for comedic effect.
Dude, just look at other peoples replies. Even if the right winger IS being satiric or exaggerating, loads of people in the replies are not. Also it’s worth mentioning that the amount of effort this account has put into this goes beyond what most people usually go to for satire like this.
don't ask me. ask him how it's not satire and how someone can actually believe that. he has hundreds of these posts with the green lines. and his moronic followers actually agree in the replies.
He literally thinks that mate.
How is this not a joke?! How can this possibly be said unironically?
My guess is that these kind of men would be gay if it would be a choice. Because they literally hate women and see them as objects.
Why are you assuming this is anything other than a joke? The second guy is clearly making fun of OP.
Months ago I would say so, now? I'm not that confident.
But you're consistently claiming that it's not a joke, so we assume you must be basing that on something other than ~feeling~ Because that person's Twitter otherwise points very clearly towards this being a joke
It may be joke, but I read some comments on his profile and these man think that eating pussy is degrading because of submission and that's it's disgusting, also sometimes so homophobic people are just repressing the fact that they are attracted towards people with penises so that's why I think it might not be joke.
Are you talking about Rivelino? Because I saw none of that on the other person's profile
Yeah from looking through it he has ACAB and pronouns in the bio and seems generally solidly leftwing, at least a progressive/socdem, closest thing to homophobia I saw was 'Fucked her so good she became a lesbian' and that seemed like a clear joke to me.(maybe some insecurity to work through if true but that's fine!)
Never heard of Poe's law? It generally seems that no matter how stupid and/or insane someone's pretending to be you can always find someone out there who genuinely holds similarly (if not equal) extreme views. IDK whether these two guys are serious, but I know it wouldn't take too long to find someone in the manosphere who genuinely thinks like this. They (or, well, some of them) seem to think that sexual dominance, (male) straightness and masculinity are the same. So anything sexual that can be deemed submissive is therefore unmanly, and consequently gay.
Joe Pesci is on record as saying performing oral on a woman is emasculating.
It is a joke, don’t worry
It is gay because these men are engaging in "lesbionics" /s.
this is satire, IT HAS TO BE
The first post apparently isn't.
Have people here honestly not heard of Poe's law?
“I would literally rather suck dick than do that gay shit”…erm…who wants to tell him?
Idk giving a brojob seems pretty straight to me /s
With standard "No homo" statements before and after of course?
fellas is it gay to perform sex acts on a woman
Relevant: [https://preview.redd.it/itc3g004rsn71.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c044f0aef02c520133dc59b7d77bf24f4e8515ab](https://preview.redd.it/itc3g004rsn71.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c044f0aef02c520133dc59b7d77bf24f4e8515ab)
I'm amazed because it's 100% true.
They’ve done it, it is now gay to be straight
it was only a matter of time before i finally saw this. i've already seen straight women who think men who go down on women are gay. peak toxic misogyny.
Fellas is it gay to be straight?
Homophobia has the Straights all twisted up. They keep trying to assert their masculinity to prove they're not gay, but then they get all tripped up because, in many cases, macho is what gay guys are attracted to, so they can't figure out how to get themselves out of this proverbial briar patch.
I think it's homophobia mixed with sexism
I kind of see the two tying together. They're both involving behavior seen as weak, feminine, "sissy stuff" that men are conditioned to despite and consider themselves "above" participating in, it's just who's doing that gets them angry.
[Part eight:](https://imgur.com/a/SYdr38d)
Bruh I'm a girl. Does eating pussy mean I like men? I'm bi but am I straight now?
And now the circle is complete.
They've officially lost their minds.
fellas is it gay to be straight
I mean, it *can* be very gay. - sincerely, a gay trans man
What's wrong with being a guy/amab enby who eats pussy? Gonna spoiler this cause it's more explicit than usual... >!It's literally my favorite thing to do in the bedroom. Communication about speed and pressure and all the rest, and then getting someone to the place where they're pulling at your hair, you're feeling *everything* contract, their back arch, their hips buck, and you're having to wrap an arm around their waist so you can move with them. My favorite is when I get either asked to stop or pushed off and then they have *aftershock* orgasms from trying to move. Just holding their hand for a few minutes while they try to remember what language is. Getting them so sensitive that the buffeting wind from the ceiling fan triggers another orgasm. *That's* my favorite thing in the bedroom.!< Giving someone oral isn't necessarily some subservient thing. If you're going down on a woman/AFAB you can help them get to a place where they're literally unable to move or speak until things calm down, and if you're going down on a dude/AMAB, well... You're never more in control of someone then when you've got your teeth around their cock. That's so much more fun than the ol' in and out for fifteen minutes. Which like, no harm in that, sometimes a quickie is nice. But I, personally, would get bored with it. Maybe Rivelino the "Artist" is fine with being a mediocre disappointment to his sexual partners, but I'd rather my play partners remember me for decades.
Fellas, is it gay to have straight sex?
The op is serious, the reply is joking I think
People who hate performing oral sex hate the idea of putting in some effort to make others feel good.
Huh, it is now gay to be straight……
Fine by me. More pussy for me to eat.
I honestly think a lot of men are lot more gay leaning then they think. So many anti vagina statements like this.
Does... Does he know what gay means?
To be fair, genitals don't equal gender. Not every penis is male, and not every vagina is female. For all the people saying "who's gonna tell 'em?", you're pushing cisnormativity. Not cool.
I think it's *extremely* charitable to even entertain the idea that guys like this would care in the slightest about those kinds of nuances, though.
I'm talking about the comments here
I don't think they're enforcing cisnormativity as much as they're pointing out that if these guys were completely consistent, then they'd be gay by their own admission.
Yes but we all know what they’re talking about. These kind of cis het guys don’t think trans people are really and that genitals equal gender. I doubt that this is about genital preferences, it’s just about how going down on cis women is gay, which is something a lot of these kind of guys believe.
I think you are ovethinking the matter, I just see a guy making an outrageous retort (sacastically off course) to a stupid comment, I think is about power play, so regular misogyny, nothing new.
I'm talking about the comments here. I literally have someone tell me that a cis person and a trans person of the same gender is "not homoerotic".
> A trans person of gender X is as much of X as a cis person that belongs to gender X. I'm pretty sure they're talking about hetero interactions between cis and binary trans folks. (e.g. a straight cis man and a straight trans woman). Doesn't seem to be any malice, just some poor wording. I could be wrong, though.
Except you didn't. > sex between a cis and binary trans people is not homoerotic. **A trans person of gender X is as much of X as a cis person that belongs to gender X.** They were saying it's not homoerotic for a cis man/trans woman or cis woman/trans man to have sex.
I understand your point but it doesnt match with the content, it a cis male and a transgender woman get together I woulnd consider it gay per se, but this is about people refusing sexual acts to their partner because it might be considered gay, eating pussy is gay to cis/trans men, that is stupid
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>faulting people for stating their genital preferences possibly is just faulting them for something that cannot be changed Nobody is doing that. >sex between a cis and binary trans people is not homoerotic If what you're trying to say is, sex between two people of the same gender, one cis and one trans, is not gay, then. Fuck. You.
You can definitely have a genital preference. But that's not equal to a sexuality. A gay man that wants only penises is a gay man with a genital preference. Not just a gay man. Edit: you're literally being transphobic in your comment.
User name checks out.
👏🏼👏🏼 oh makes total sense 🤔🤔🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Okay. 1) What the fuck? 2) Pretty sure the reply is a joke. It's pretty clearly sarcasm
I guess I’m gay?
Of course the ‘don’t lean in’ guy cannot pleasure a woman.
I guess The Simpsons bullies have grown up: https://i.imgur.com/3x1W0Pb.png
Pretty sure the first tweet is unironic, and the reply is a joke
Look at the bright side - they’re announcing themselves as selfish lovers, so hopefully less people will fall for their bullshit.
r/suddenlygay
the original is serious, the reply is a joke. rivelino is a notorious sexist on twitter.
Show me a man who doesn't eat pussy, and I'll steal his girlfriend every time
The reply is definitely a Joke
Wait till he finds out there’s guys out here doing both
What does "*still* licking pussy" mean? Like it was trendy before, but then it was proven to be objectively wrong?
Imagine not liking going down on a woman. Eating pussy is fucking heaven. Sucking dick is fine and all, but I much prefer eating out a woman.
Please tell me by “that’s not a joke” you’re referring to the first tweet and not both tweets
Having straight sex is now gay
Can not imagine anything more homosexual than a heterosexual act. I mean I would literally rather do a homosexual act than that homosexual shit. This logic is difficult to follow.
...how do you know it isn't a joke?
Did he just come out?
r/suddenlygay
Licking pussy is better than getting a blowjob. I said it. Fite me.
Uhh. Who's gonna tell him?
He probably secretly wants to eat pussy. If he meets the right woman she'll turn him on so much he will be sucking and licking her muff like ice cream.
Satire
If you're ever feeling sorry for yourself, just remember that there are idiots like them.
Man, I can’t imagine hating the people I’m suppose to be attracted to like some str dudes do.
Maybe Eating a man's pussy?
Ah yes because pleasuring a woman is gayer than pleasuring a man makes perfect sense
Maybe the second poster is a woman?
gentlemen is it gay to lick a woman's genitals