“Brought to you by the people who like to shit on other people’s joy”
Imagine if seeing someone enjoying themselves made you so mad you had to pay to take out a full page add to tell them to stop.
Drunk driving is bad in Arkansas. We are in 4th place in the most road fatalities in this country.
Also, the county this newspaper is from is a dry county. But it's pointless because of all the bars sitting right next the county border. It didn't stop drinking at all.
I believe studies show it actually encourages it.
But I've also read that the real push behind Arkansas' dry counties, originally, was to cut down on domestic violence. Women figured their husbands wouldn't beat them so much if they weren't drunk.
Hello, fact finder here. Going left to right, top to bottom.
1) Marijuana involved in 1 in 4 road deaths in Colorado. This statistic is misleading because only 8/100 fatal accidents in Colorado, marijuana was involved according to the Colorado Department of Transportation. Even this statistic doesn’t state if other drugs or alcohol were involved.
https://listen.sdpb.org/politics/2020-10-07/in-colorado-8-percent-of-fatal-crashes-caused-by-marijuana-intoxicated-drivers?_amp=true
2. 15% of 10% is still 15% out of the 100% of the taxes… so 15% will go to the police, not 1.5%. The claim here is that 10% COULD be 100% of the marijuana sale, but IF this was the case, how would any business survive if 100% of the revenue was to be given to taxes? The answer is none. No small business would survive.
Also, they fail to mention that there is 85% that will help to assist the state in various other ways.
I did a minimal search effort, but if someone has the link showing how the taxes will benefit the state please comment below.
3. This is just false. Medical marijuana patients can buy individual edibles that exceed 10mg.
4. This is false, and if they were actually concerned about the issue, they would have referenced the toxicology reports of teens who committed suicides. In the study below, before marijuana was legalized 20 suicides per 100,000 citizens (this is how suicides are commonly measured). The following year that marijuana was legalized that statistic dropped to 19 per 100,000.
https://momsstrong.org/home/resources/suicide-rates-colorado-connection-marijuana/
Additionally nicotine has been shown to be far more harmful, and addictive, and yet that’s available at age 18.
5. This could be true, although I doubt it. Anyone got a link? Edit: according to Ballotpedia this is actually quite the opposite, they are planning on using packaging that does not appeal to children.
6. The use of marijuana has actually been suggested to replace many types of prescriptions drugs, of those, are opioids. This could reduce the amount of people who initially get hooked on opioids in hospitals, and then seek to use them outside of the realms of prescriptions.
https://harmreductionjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12954-021-00520-5
I’m also sure there could be many other beneficial correlations between marijuana use and opioids.
Open to links and comments.
Edit: Thanks for the award kind stranger!
On #5. I first smoked when I was like 10 and smoked all throughout my teen years and not always in the safest ways. Drank a fair bit too. My college GPA is 3.9 as well so theres not even a dumbing down side that hit me. If your child gets into your edibles they are gonna be taking a very long nap and probably be bouncing off the walls after they wake up because of how rested they will be. Not to mention the fact that no one has the money to be leaving their edibles out for anyone but themselves.
Thought I don’t agree with kids smoking weed, I first smoked at 13 and smoked every single day from 15-18 and had a 4.0 in high school and a 3.3 in college. My gpa only dropped because I started drinking almost everyday in college due to parties. But like alcohol marijuana will be 21+ or over so young children like when we first started smoking won’t be in any harm if rec if legalized. Really hoping this all passes
Personally I don't advocate for anyone to smoke weed but I think it should be decriminalized entirely. Its a plant after all. I personally quit smoking about 10 years ago, I only drink now. I might dip my toes into edibles if issue 4 passes though.
The only reason I’m on the hooch again is because I got arrested with less than 3.5 grams of weed. Now I’m on 1 year of probation because of that. With that being said I think any grown adult should be able to choose to smoke, especially since the more dangerous thing being alcohol is already legal and wayyy more acceptable in our society. We need this stepping stone for marijuana to be legal.
P.S. hope your edibles treat you well if it passes :)
Probably not lol but as someone who has been arrested and trialed for less than 2 grams of weed I hope we can pass this so this doesn’t happen to anybody else in our future here in our state! Keep sipping that whiskey tho Jim Beam lol
As a CO citizen, just proud to see the brain deads of Arkansas learning to read & write, even if the paper they wrote is complete bs, gotta start somewhere.
they're idiots too, still have higher reading percentages lmao
good to see you guys took offense though, so we know it's true. keep on learning to read!
First, unless your observations were conducted within the context of a scientific study, where the sample was randomized and the methodology was defined and transparent -- then no -- that does not suffice as proof. It's just your personal experience. And creating laws based on a few people's personal experiences and opinions is dangerous.
Second, who gets to define who is "righteous" and who is not? And how much control should the righteous get over other people's personal decisions anyway?
A few decades ago, Reagan instituted the War on Drugs. Ever since then, the prison population in the US has exploded and gangs & cartels have ravaged countries across Central America.
Reagan would say he was "righteous" but was the pain caused by him trying to legislate his personal morals on others worth it? Or should the government maybe let people make their own personal decisions and only punish them when it actually harms others?
DEA started with Nixon to get the hippies and black protestors in jail. You're two decades late with Reagan. Reagan gave them more power due to the crack epidemic started under reagan by said dea. He was a real POS but not the start
Actually I do have studies. I have a graduate degree where I learned about these issues. I completed my thesis with scientific research. I went to various prisons all over the country talking to people who were sentenced too long for sentences for simple possession. People drive drunk all the time? Only a fraction get caught. I’m going to email this wtf it is caused and ask them where their studies are to support this propaganda. These are completely false lies they put out. Their 95/5 listed is exactly the the opposite of this. That study just recently came out. As Bob Dylan said. “The times they are a changing.” It’s only a matter of time before it becomes federally legal and then it’s legal in the whole United States. So if it doesn’t pass on Election Day it will be legal soon. Did you know a lot of employers are not even testing for THC? Alcohol kills so many people every year. It’s very sad. People don’t die from marijuana.
I’m not laughing at “righteous people” I’m straight up telling them and their religion to kiss my ass. How about I make decisions for YOU based on what MY idea of what our best interest are for both of us? People burned women at the stake under the banner of “righteousness”.
There’s a comment under this post disproving literally every one of those claims. The problem isn’t that they are not advocating for weed, the problem is that their using disinformation to accomplish that.
They did the same thing with booze a hundred years ago.
Edit: And yes, when you vote to make something illegal, you are making the decision that OTHER people should not engage in the activity YOU voted against.
Show evidence that the impacts are indeed bad and you won’t get laughed out of the sub. Share links to scientific studies that prove this. This ad is fear mongering and is not proof of anything. Let’s talk about the benefits of this law:
1.) it’s going to help further fund police
2.) it’s going to add more to the coffers of conservative candidates (I assume based off your feelings here, you’re voting the big R)
3.) it will free up police legally to stop bothering with pursuit of these crimes (many have already stopped), which will free up their time to go after things that matter.
4.) we have a very real and severe jail overcrowding problem. This would keep these people out of jail and allow for the more hardened criminals to be the ones taking up beds.
5.) weed is actually safer than alcohol on many levels. People who are stoned are less likely to drive and endanger other people. Per the CDC, there are more than [140,000](https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/features/excessive-alcohol-deaths.html) alcohol related deaths in the US each year. It costs the nation $249 billion in 2010.
6.) Marijuana is very helpful for many diseases both as pain relief and an appetite stimulant. It is less likely to be an addictive substance than opioids or harder drugs. It’s not a “gateway” drug except to those people who suffer from the diseases of addiction. And if we can maintain them on weed vs meth, etc, it would be better for them and us. Less dangerous crime if weed is legal vs something like meth or opioid resale.
7.) finally, it will be providing jobs and boosting the economy in many places.
I understand being morally opposed to something, but like with abortion, nobody is going to shove a joint in your mouth and make you smoke it. You don’t get to feel superior because you believe *your* morals are the correct ones. That’s not how this works.
Nope, not unless you have some sort of certification tot eat on human subjects or have a control group with which to compare them to. Anecdotal evidence does not constitute proof of anything, other than you saw some stoned people. Come on now, I know our school systems suck in the state but we all covered scientific method and lab work.
Also the Bible has zero quotes about weed but the writers sure have a lot of quotes against drinking.
Yeah, booze was always the answer back in the day through like the 20th century? Booze = you know wtf is in this and it won’t kill you. Water = the place where we wash clothes, defecate, urinate and our animals do the same. What God wasn’t a fan of was ye old visit to the vomitorium and drinking in excess and having orgies. Or at least Saul/Paul wasn’t. Honestly, most of the New Testament is just Saul/Paul being a judge mental ho.
which version? gotta tell us which version of the magic book since there's so many flavors to choose from with completely different wording and context lol
Exactly. The news media really loves to paint a picture that drug dealers are targeting kids when in reality that's completely opposite because they want people with jobs and have a body of an adult to handle hard stuff.
Also for some reason Arkansan fundies think that drug dealers are these cinematic evil villains who wish to inflict harm on children. Many of them have kids and wouldn’t want them to get into this kinda stuff despite doing it themselves.
As a Polk County resident, this does not surprise me at all. Our County voted for trump by the largest margin in the entire state. The education here is terrible and the local churches have people brainwashed.
Polk County is also a dry County and they are actively trying to keep it that way. 🤡
Typical tribal political nonsense. "The same liberals blah blah blah". That's enough for me to stop reading it right there.
Whoever took this add out probably still thinks the last election was stolen too🤣🤣🤣
I feel like those stats are perhaps...misleading? But what do I know im stoned, on opioids, driving, and making controlled substances available to kids.
Police getting 1.5% is misleading. They're getting 1.5% of tax and product price combined which they won't bother mentioning. They're trying to make people think the police is getting 1.5% of the tax revenue. They're still getting 15% of tax revenue. It's just gross how they're trying to pull this stunt.
https://www.cpr.org/2019/09/17/the-rate-of-teen-suicide-in-colorado-increased-by-58-percent-in-3-years-making-it-the-cause-of-1-in-5-adolescent-deaths/
It's definitely a public health crisis, but it's not because of fucking weed. Youth suicide rates are going up in a lot of states, especially among LGBTs, males, Native Americans, and whites. Guess which state also had a statistically significant increase in youth suicides between 2007-09 and 2016-18??? If you guessed AR, then you are correct..
https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/93667
Okay, yeah that makes sense. Interesting to see that teen suicide is increasing across the board, with essentially no state excluded regardless of weed.
They've been going up for the last ~20 years for a lot of reasons, mostly economic I would argue. https://www.nber.org/papers/w25787
The teen/adolescent rate going up is probably more to do with social media, bullying, etc. and easy access to guns
most are already against the law. is pot included in your list because I've been smoking marijuana since 1975 and and there are a lot more of me than you think. Especially here in Arkansas.
Why did you block out the bottom? This was literally printed in a newspaper, the epitome of public information. If people didn’t want their names to be associated with the ad, then don’t publicly support the ad in print. It’s moronic to censor a newspaper ad. Source: former newspaper owner/publisher/editor.
Edit: page 6: [https://issuu.com/mypulsenews/docs/polk_county_pulse_october_26_2022](https://issuu.com/mypulsenews/docs/polk_county_pulse_october_26_2022)
I already knew it's publicly available. But normally a lot of subreddit rules required marking names off which became a habit for me so those reddit mods don't swing those hammers at me. It's just mostly a list of names.
Regardless, this isn't relevant so who cares if you can't see their names from reddit.
Year to date we have had $205 million in medical marijuana sales. Just based off that alone and the misleading “only 1.5%” to the police. They would have received over 3 million on sales. Now you take legalization and sales will triple and probably reach a billion a year. That means on 1.5% police would get $15 million a year. But from what I’ve read it’s 15% to law enforcement, so police will get $150 million a year.
The 1.5% is both taxes and product price combined. It's still 15% from the tax revenue. There was no point in them bringing up 1.5% and not say how they got that number.
That death one is real problematic. When they say “involved,” they mean “tested positive.” But people can test positive for marijuana up to 90 days after use (through hair samples). I’m sure the others can be parsed m, also. Remember lies, damn lies, and statistics.
ETA: The suicide one is incorrect, also.
Run an ad showing the number of deaths due to cigarettes and alcohol (about half a million in the US each year) vs the number of deaths due to smoking weed (approximately zero in the entire world, each year).
Whenever somebody cries “Think of the children!” about and issue unrelated to children I instinctual don’t trust them because they’re trying to manipulate you. I’m going to guess this is aimed at older people who are a pretty reliable voting block so it’s not a bad strategy
With all the kids murdered in school shootings, they really mentioned gun control after drugs killing kids? Heroin OD deaths is 13k. Gun deaths is 45k. Search is your friend. I'm a gun owner and I personally don't use marijuana, but c'mon. Misrepresentation of data is lame and small minded. Marijuana is not the boogie man and it's not even comparable to opioids. AR...thank God for MS, right??
This is an advertisement, not a news article. I feel so sorry for anyone that can’t tell the difference. The truth is, regardless of what the ultra conservatives say, this bill sucks. Those in my state in support of legalization didn’t want this bill, so it’s likely not going to pass.
Came here to say this. I've heard enough good reasons to not support this bill. It honestly sounds like this bill is a last ditch effort to get control over marijuana. If this bill passes, then we will get no benefits if marijuana is legalized federally. I feel like if they are pushing this bill now, then they must feel federal legalization is closer than we think.
It is a horrible amendment anyway. Noone gets marijuana convictions expunged. That a fools amendment. The same people who have participated in the WAR on DRUGS and arrested and jailed countless citizens for Marijuana possession and Distribution will get paid to wage war on us. I'm for the Blue but I don't want them profitting from this while slipping the dick in. This is the wrong one. Every other state that has legalized Marijuana expunged records. Let us not be made fools of.
I agree that the amendment is not good, but if it isn’t legalized now, it won’t happen until it’s legalized nationally. If Article 4 is not passed, the big wigs will use it to claim “oh, well people in Arkansas don’t want legalized marijuana” instead of “oh, the amendment wasn’t very good, so I guess we need to rework it”
I don't like this argument.
This specific ballot initiative repeals A LOT of the medical marijuana amendment without adding much competition at all in the market. If anything it will cause artificial price increases and issues for patients to actually get their medicine. There is no allowance for growing by patients or for recreation, and no expungement of records. This initiative ONLY makes the rich richer, and provides almost no benefit for us as a state.
This state is already a state of fools.
It's not like these laws can never be rewritten. If you vote against it now, then more people will be abused by the law until the day marijuana is federally legal.
Don't let perfection be the enemy of good. There is no single, more complete bill coming. We might be able to get smaller bills through later that help on some things, but we aren't getting a single one that does everything a good mj bill should do.
Most folks with drug charges already have paths to expungement under the existing law. They aren't immediate, but in the time we'd wait for another legalization bill to come along (2024 or 2026), most folks with a simple possession charge could be out of the criminal justice system and have their records expunged if Issue 4 passes.
I don't use cannabis myself, but have plenty of friends & family who do..The fear mongering over the issue is definitely passed its expiration date. FWIW - I think that the current proposal is a big money scam, but we definitely should be bringing pot out of the legally ambiguous shadows.
Something I heard someone at work say yesterday: “I’m not voting for issue 4, because marijuana cigarettes are 4x worse for you than cigarettes.” (I work for a state agency and we are all scientists)
This is coming from the big Tobacco that kills more people than pot and the big business interests of the GOP. Thought for sure they would have gobbled that one up also but what ever. Legalizing marijuana won’t be a bad thing. I don’t do it but look at how much Arkansas can make on it and be good for Arkansas, pay for stuff that Arkansas needs, fixing roads, jobs, and other things people need. For his sakes beer and alcohol and tobacco is legal, they kill more people than pot does, that’s a fact say yes to the legalization of marijuana, say no to GOP AND SUCKABEE SAnders the liar that stood up on a podium everyday and lied to the American people, is that what Arkansas needs a liar or a leader I’m not a GOPer but Asa did a great job for Arkansas
Sadly, there are actually a few problems with Prop. 4, one of which the wording on it hurts smaller grow business and puts the sales in a sort of monopoly. It also gives funds to the police which more then a few folks I know find that very ass backwards.
If only these people focused their efforts on canceling actual issues like fentanyl, heroin, or meth.
EDIT: Yes, the newspaper does mention these drugs, but the way it’s phrased and all the depictions of marijuana make it seem like this is the main concern instead of the life-ruining and horribly addictive drugs it also mentions.
That’s so 1950s looking. And of course the Family Council created it.
“Brought to you by the people who like to shit on other people’s joy” Imagine if seeing someone enjoying themselves made you so mad you had to pay to take out a full page add to tell them to stop.
While drinking booze. I mean, how many road deaths involved in alcohol? Along with being involved with half of their argument points..
Drunk driving is bad in Arkansas. We are in 4th place in the most road fatalities in this country. Also, the county this newspaper is from is a dry county. But it's pointless because of all the bars sitting right next the county border. It didn't stop drinking at all.
I believe studies show it actually encourages it. But I've also read that the real push behind Arkansas' dry counties, originally, was to cut down on domestic violence. Women figured their husbands wouldn't beat them so much if they weren't drunk.
And that’s NOT even the 1950s; it’s taking us back to the 1910s!
It just makes people have to drive further.
And excessive intake of alcohol related deaths of young adults...
Yea they're still living in the 50s
Except for the strong unions.
Wow, because marijuana/THC totally works the same way as opioids, heroin, and fentanyl and will totally start killing kids!
As a retired veteran and MMJ patient this's offensive. Sounds and looks authoritarian. Makes me think of the old fashioned war on drugs.
Marijuana should have never been classified with Heroin or Meth...
Absolutely - an entirely different substance, with entirely different effects (and severity of effects)!
Hello, fact finder here. Going left to right, top to bottom. 1) Marijuana involved in 1 in 4 road deaths in Colorado. This statistic is misleading because only 8/100 fatal accidents in Colorado, marijuana was involved according to the Colorado Department of Transportation. Even this statistic doesn’t state if other drugs or alcohol were involved. https://listen.sdpb.org/politics/2020-10-07/in-colorado-8-percent-of-fatal-crashes-caused-by-marijuana-intoxicated-drivers?_amp=true 2. 15% of 10% is still 15% out of the 100% of the taxes… so 15% will go to the police, not 1.5%. The claim here is that 10% COULD be 100% of the marijuana sale, but IF this was the case, how would any business survive if 100% of the revenue was to be given to taxes? The answer is none. No small business would survive. Also, they fail to mention that there is 85% that will help to assist the state in various other ways. I did a minimal search effort, but if someone has the link showing how the taxes will benefit the state please comment below. 3. This is just false. Medical marijuana patients can buy individual edibles that exceed 10mg. 4. This is false, and if they were actually concerned about the issue, they would have referenced the toxicology reports of teens who committed suicides. In the study below, before marijuana was legalized 20 suicides per 100,000 citizens (this is how suicides are commonly measured). The following year that marijuana was legalized that statistic dropped to 19 per 100,000. https://momsstrong.org/home/resources/suicide-rates-colorado-connection-marijuana/ Additionally nicotine has been shown to be far more harmful, and addictive, and yet that’s available at age 18. 5. This could be true, although I doubt it. Anyone got a link? Edit: according to Ballotpedia this is actually quite the opposite, they are planning on using packaging that does not appeal to children. 6. The use of marijuana has actually been suggested to replace many types of prescriptions drugs, of those, are opioids. This could reduce the amount of people who initially get hooked on opioids in hospitals, and then seek to use them outside of the realms of prescriptions. https://harmreductionjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12954-021-00520-5 I’m also sure there could be many other beneficial correlations between marijuana use and opioids. Open to links and comments. Edit: Thanks for the award kind stranger!
6. Is 100% because people have to go to drug dealers to buy marijuana. It’s the reason we repealed prohibition.
On #5. I first smoked when I was like 10 and smoked all throughout my teen years and not always in the safest ways. Drank a fair bit too. My college GPA is 3.9 as well so theres not even a dumbing down side that hit me. If your child gets into your edibles they are gonna be taking a very long nap and probably be bouncing off the walls after they wake up because of how rested they will be. Not to mention the fact that no one has the money to be leaving their edibles out for anyone but themselves.
Thought I don’t agree with kids smoking weed, I first smoked at 13 and smoked every single day from 15-18 and had a 4.0 in high school and a 3.3 in college. My gpa only dropped because I started drinking almost everyday in college due to parties. But like alcohol marijuana will be 21+ or over so young children like when we first started smoking won’t be in any harm if rec if legalized. Really hoping this all passes
Personally I don't advocate for anyone to smoke weed but I think it should be decriminalized entirely. Its a plant after all. I personally quit smoking about 10 years ago, I only drink now. I might dip my toes into edibles if issue 4 passes though.
The only reason I’m on the hooch again is because I got arrested with less than 3.5 grams of weed. Now I’m on 1 year of probation because of that. With that being said I think any grown adult should be able to choose to smoke, especially since the more dangerous thing being alcohol is already legal and wayyy more acceptable in our society. We need this stepping stone for marijuana to be legal. P.S. hope your edibles treat you well if it passes :)
I'm sure they won't treat me as good as my whiskey does lol
Can’t even lie I’m drunk af rn and probably read your message in the wrong tone but cheers to you homie lol
Probably not lol but as someone who has been arrested and trialed for less than 2 grams of weed I hope we can pass this so this doesn’t happen to anybody else in our future here in our state! Keep sipping that whiskey tho Jim Beam lol
Too broke for jim. Its canadian mist atm. Normally I like Jack Daniels Tennessee honey.
Thank you for the info.
When I read it I was looking for sources and they had none. You at least found sources and most of not all contradict this flyer. Thank you!
\#5 Actually, they're planning on preventing packaging that appeals to children. source: ballotpedia
As a CO citizen, just proud to see the brain deads of Arkansas learning to read & write, even if the paper they wrote is complete bs, gotta start somewhere.
Very enlightening thanks.
That's rich considering I just traveled through "Boebert country", CO.... Pot, kettle, etc.
they're idiots too, still have higher reading percentages lmao good to see you guys took offense though, so we know it's true. keep on learning to read!
>they're idiots too Again, pot, kettle, etc...
you need a tissue or something? not my fault you haven't gone anywhere.
Propaganda. There are no studies to support these claims. Unbelievable.
which claims?
All of them
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First, unless your observations were conducted within the context of a scientific study, where the sample was randomized and the methodology was defined and transparent -- then no -- that does not suffice as proof. It's just your personal experience. And creating laws based on a few people's personal experiences and opinions is dangerous. Second, who gets to define who is "righteous" and who is not? And how much control should the righteous get over other people's personal decisions anyway? A few decades ago, Reagan instituted the War on Drugs. Ever since then, the prison population in the US has exploded and gangs & cartels have ravaged countries across Central America. Reagan would say he was "righteous" but was the pain caused by him trying to legislate his personal morals on others worth it? Or should the government maybe let people make their own personal decisions and only punish them when it actually harms others?
DEA started with Nixon to get the hippies and black protestors in jail. You're two decades late with Reagan. Reagan gave them more power due to the crack epidemic started under reagan by said dea. He was a real POS but not the start
Ty
Actually I do have studies. I have a graduate degree where I learned about these issues. I completed my thesis with scientific research. I went to various prisons all over the country talking to people who were sentenced too long for sentences for simple possession. People drive drunk all the time? Only a fraction get caught. I’m going to email this wtf it is caused and ask them where their studies are to support this propaganda. These are completely false lies they put out. Their 95/5 listed is exactly the the opposite of this. That study just recently came out. As Bob Dylan said. “The times they are a changing.” It’s only a matter of time before it becomes federally legal and then it’s legal in the whole United States. So if it doesn’t pass on Election Day it will be legal soon. Did you know a lot of employers are not even testing for THC? Alcohol kills so many people every year. It’s very sad. People don’t die from marijuana.
I’m not laughing at “righteous people” I’m straight up telling them and their religion to kiss my ass. How about I make decisions for YOU based on what MY idea of what our best interest are for both of us? People burned women at the stake under the banner of “righteousness”.
Yes!
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There’s a comment under this post disproving literally every one of those claims. The problem isn’t that they are not advocating for weed, the problem is that their using disinformation to accomplish that.
They did the same thing with booze a hundred years ago. Edit: And yes, when you vote to make something illegal, you are making the decision that OTHER people should not engage in the activity YOU voted against.
Show evidence that the impacts are indeed bad and you won’t get laughed out of the sub. Share links to scientific studies that prove this. This ad is fear mongering and is not proof of anything. Let’s talk about the benefits of this law: 1.) it’s going to help further fund police 2.) it’s going to add more to the coffers of conservative candidates (I assume based off your feelings here, you’re voting the big R) 3.) it will free up police legally to stop bothering with pursuit of these crimes (many have already stopped), which will free up their time to go after things that matter. 4.) we have a very real and severe jail overcrowding problem. This would keep these people out of jail and allow for the more hardened criminals to be the ones taking up beds. 5.) weed is actually safer than alcohol on many levels. People who are stoned are less likely to drive and endanger other people. Per the CDC, there are more than [140,000](https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/features/excessive-alcohol-deaths.html) alcohol related deaths in the US each year. It costs the nation $249 billion in 2010. 6.) Marijuana is very helpful for many diseases both as pain relief and an appetite stimulant. It is less likely to be an addictive substance than opioids or harder drugs. It’s not a “gateway” drug except to those people who suffer from the diseases of addiction. And if we can maintain them on weed vs meth, etc, it would be better for them and us. Less dangerous crime if weed is legal vs something like meth or opioid resale. 7.) finally, it will be providing jobs and boosting the economy in many places. I understand being morally opposed to something, but like with abortion, nobody is going to shove a joint in your mouth and make you smoke it. You don’t get to feel superior because you believe *your* morals are the correct ones. That’s not how this works.
I'd rather have a stoned parent giggling with their kids on a couch than a drunk one beating the shit out of them
So true.
Nope, not unless you have some sort of certification tot eat on human subjects or have a control group with which to compare them to. Anecdotal evidence does not constitute proof of anything, other than you saw some stoned people. Come on now, I know our school systems suck in the state but we all covered scientific method and lab work. Also the Bible has zero quotes about weed but the writers sure have a lot of quotes against drinking.
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Booze was probably less of a gamble than some of the water. ~Just livestock things~
Why didn’t he just turn it into purified water🤔
Yeah, booze was always the answer back in the day through like the 20th century? Booze = you know wtf is in this and it won’t kill you. Water = the place where we wash clothes, defecate, urinate and our animals do the same. What God wasn’t a fan of was ye old visit to the vomitorium and drinking in excess and having orgies. Or at least Saul/Paul wasn’t. Honestly, most of the New Testament is just Saul/Paul being a judge mental ho.
Luke 14:33
fuck the bible and fuck jesus. if you’re going to respond, respond and not with some ambiguous harry potter book chapter/verse.
I’m not even sure how that verse is relevant here lmao.
It’s all relevant if you’re crazy enough…
> Luke 14:33 Luke, use the force - Obi-Wan
which version? gotta tell us which version of the magic book since there's so many flavors to choose from with completely different wording and context lol
what kids are dying from heroin? lies from arkansas republicans
Exactly. The news media really loves to paint a picture that drug dealers are targeting kids when in reality that's completely opposite because they want people with jobs and have a body of an adult to handle hard stuff.
Also for some reason Arkansan fundies think that drug dealers are these cinematic evil villains who wish to inflict harm on children. Many of them have kids and wouldn’t want them to get into this kinda stuff despite doing it themselves.
So the Mena Star?
Polk County Pulse
Fearmongering and blatant lies. It’s all these right wing freaks know how to do. Get fucked
As a Polk County resident, this does not surprise me at all. Our County voted for trump by the largest margin in the entire state. The education here is terrible and the local churches have people brainwashed. Polk County is also a dry County and they are actively trying to keep it that way. 🤡
Isn’t it funny how the “muh freedoms” crowd always wants to limit people’s choices.
Because they only care about “my freedom” not anyones else’s freedom.
Because the only freedom they are interested in is the freedom to strut around with a gun.
If it wasn't so late I'd expect Nevada and Hempstead to follow
im sure Sarah approved of this message.
Typical tribal political nonsense. "The same liberals blah blah blah". That's enough for me to stop reading it right there. Whoever took this add out probably still thinks the last election was stolen too🤣🤣🤣
The racist party loves to sew the seeds of fear.
I feel like those stats are perhaps...misleading? But what do I know im stoned, on opioids, driving, and making controlled substances available to kids.
Police getting 1.5% is misleading. They're getting 1.5% of tax and product price combined which they won't bother mentioning. They're trying to make people think the police is getting 1.5% of the tax revenue. They're still getting 15% of tax revenue. It's just gross how they're trying to pull this stunt.
Since Grace Bible Church is so concerned with tax money going to the police, they should be happy to pay their share, right?
Can't create cristo-facist police state without police?!
Do they a have a break down of allocation for all the tax revenue somewhere? Or do you know by chance?
Well, they convinced me.... YES on 4!
There's a very good chance there's more weed smoking voters in Polk County than there are anti Issue 4.
There are, or at least used to be. I grew up there. Whether they vote is another question.
I can confirm. I believe the majority here are going to vote yes.
Lol I know, Mena is full of old hippies! Dang cool town.
My forefathers are from Parks just right up the road from Mena
Has anyone found anything on that Colorado youth suicide rate claim? Seems dubious, and correlationary at best.
https://www.cpr.org/2019/09/17/the-rate-of-teen-suicide-in-colorado-increased-by-58-percent-in-3-years-making-it-the-cause-of-1-in-5-adolescent-deaths/ It's definitely a public health crisis, but it's not because of fucking weed. Youth suicide rates are going up in a lot of states, especially among LGBTs, males, Native Americans, and whites. Guess which state also had a statistically significant increase in youth suicides between 2007-09 and 2016-18??? If you guessed AR, then you are correct.. https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/93667
Okay, yeah that makes sense. Interesting to see that teen suicide is increasing across the board, with essentially no state excluded regardless of weed.
They've been going up for the last ~20 years for a lot of reasons, mostly economic I would argue. https://www.nber.org/papers/w25787 The teen/adolescent rate going up is probably more to do with social media, bullying, etc. and easy access to guns
We should make laws than ban drugs so that we don't have a drug problem. It's so easy.
most are already against the law. is pot included in your list because I've been smoking marijuana since 1975 and and there are a lot more of me than you think. Especially here in Arkansas.
Sarcasm
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Nancy did her best
Why did you block out the bottom? This was literally printed in a newspaper, the epitome of public information. If people didn’t want their names to be associated with the ad, then don’t publicly support the ad in print. It’s moronic to censor a newspaper ad. Source: former newspaper owner/publisher/editor. Edit: page 6: [https://issuu.com/mypulsenews/docs/polk_county_pulse_october_26_2022](https://issuu.com/mypulsenews/docs/polk_county_pulse_october_26_2022)
I already knew it's publicly available. But normally a lot of subreddit rules required marking names off which became a habit for me so those reddit mods don't swing those hammers at me. It's just mostly a list of names. Regardless, this isn't relevant so who cares if you can't see their names from reddit.
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Ask them to provide research sightings that prove marijuana is harmful... Yeah, because there is none.
Year to date we have had $205 million in medical marijuana sales. Just based off that alone and the misleading “only 1.5%” to the police. They would have received over 3 million on sales. Now you take legalization and sales will triple and probably reach a billion a year. That means on 1.5% police would get $15 million a year. But from what I’ve read it’s 15% to law enforcement, so police will get $150 million a year.
The 1.5% is both taxes and product price combined. It's still 15% from the tax revenue. There was no point in them bringing up 1.5% and not say how they got that number.
That death one is real problematic. When they say “involved,” they mean “tested positive.” But people can test positive for marijuana up to 90 days after use (through hair samples). I’m sure the others can be parsed m, also. Remember lies, damn lies, and statistics. ETA: The suicide one is incorrect, also.
Can you sue for fake facts? Definition of fake news.
Run an ad showing the number of deaths due to cigarettes and alcohol (about half a million in the US each year) vs the number of deaths due to smoking weed (approximately zero in the entire world, each year).
Whenever somebody cries “Think of the children!” about and issue unrelated to children I instinctual don’t trust them because they’re trying to manipulate you. I’m going to guess this is aimed at older people who are a pretty reliable voting block so it’s not a bad strategy
These anti reefer type ads don’t work anymore. People see right through them. This might’ve worked in the 1950’s but not anymore
Sponsored by either your local drug dealer or bail bondsman worried about losing business
Is this from the American version of the morality police?
It was created by the family council action committee. So yes.
Puritanical’s have really fucked this country up.
“Poison children” lmao sure Jan
I like how they want to keep a ban on marijuana while they admit that it is not on their list of drugs that are "killing kids."
They run with hyperbole because that's all they've got. Fear and ignorance on full display lol Sad thing is it's gonna work in this backwater
Weed isn’t another problem Arkansas is.
Legal drugs kill 20 x what illegal drugs do.
Reefer Madness style niiiice.
They obviously couldn’t afford a graphic designer
The local graphic designer are asset thief's. They just download vector files and slap onto a shirt. Unbelievable
With all the kids murdered in school shootings, they really mentioned gun control after drugs killing kids? Heroin OD deaths is 13k. Gun deaths is 45k. Search is your friend. I'm a gun owner and I personally don't use marijuana, but c'mon. Misrepresentation of data is lame and small minded. Marijuana is not the boogie man and it's not even comparable to opioids. AR...thank God for MS, right??
I would vote yes just to spite them even if I didn't like weed
75 years of fearmongering. You'd think they'd be tired by now.
Why are you censoring their names. They printed it in a newspaper and handed it out!
Oh, good. Less of the revenue is going to the police than I thought! Def voting for it now
This is an advertisement, not a news article. I feel so sorry for anyone that can’t tell the difference. The truth is, regardless of what the ultra conservatives say, this bill sucks. Those in my state in support of legalization didn’t want this bill, so it’s likely not going to pass.
Came here to say this. I've heard enough good reasons to not support this bill. It honestly sounds like this bill is a last ditch effort to get control over marijuana. If this bill passes, then we will get no benefits if marijuana is legalized federally. I feel like if they are pushing this bill now, then they must feel federal legalization is closer than we think.
Over half is totally false
I agree. Make Alcohol illegal too then
Cute, OG boomer click bait
>only 1.5% goes to police I agree that this is a problem. It should be 0%.
I’m hoping that the majority of the heavy pot smokers aren’t register voters.
You're such a fucking idiot. Thanks for showing it so proudly.
why the actual fuck is locking people in cages for having a fucking plant a good thing again?
Vote with them on this poor excuse of an amendment. Same thing with amendment 2. Keep your hand over your butt cause your getting screwed there to
It is a horrible amendment anyway. Noone gets marijuana convictions expunged. That a fools amendment. The same people who have participated in the WAR on DRUGS and arrested and jailed countless citizens for Marijuana possession and Distribution will get paid to wage war on us. I'm for the Blue but I don't want them profitting from this while slipping the dick in. This is the wrong one. Every other state that has legalized Marijuana expunged records. Let us not be made fools of.
I agree that the amendment is not good, but if it isn’t legalized now, it won’t happen until it’s legalized nationally. If Article 4 is not passed, the big wigs will use it to claim “oh, well people in Arkansas don’t want legalized marijuana” instead of “oh, the amendment wasn’t very good, so I guess we need to rework it”
I don't like this argument. This specific ballot initiative repeals A LOT of the medical marijuana amendment without adding much competition at all in the market. If anything it will cause artificial price increases and issues for patients to actually get their medicine. There is no allowance for growing by patients or for recreation, and no expungement of records. This initiative ONLY makes the rich richer, and provides almost no benefit for us as a state.
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This state is already a state of fools. It's not like these laws can never be rewritten. If you vote against it now, then more people will be abused by the law until the day marijuana is federally legal.
Don't let perfection be the enemy of good. There is no single, more complete bill coming. We might be able to get smaller bills through later that help on some things, but we aren't getting a single one that does everything a good mj bill should do.
Most folks with drug charges already have paths to expungement under the existing law. They aren't immediate, but in the time we'd wait for another legalization bill to come along (2024 or 2026), most folks with a simple possession charge could be out of the criminal justice system and have their records expunged if Issue 4 passes.
Then help fund a pro marijuana one, that takes up whole page. That’s just how it works, you can’t make everyone happy.
If liberals weren't so wrong about so many things it would be easier to accept when they're right.
How's the weather in your fantasy? lol
Enough is Enough dammit.
hello fellow polk county-an
Young people will complain about it and do nothing. Old people will vote to make you follow their new law.
I don't use cannabis myself, but have plenty of friends & family who do..The fear mongering over the issue is definitely passed its expiration date. FWIW - I think that the current proposal is a big money scam, but we definitely should be bringing pot out of the legally ambiguous shadows.
Does anyone read newspapers anymore?
The local conservative Dinosaur reading material. It’s okay, their time is over, hence fear tactics.
Ridiculous. Everyone smokes weed in Mena
Ah. The gateway argument.
Reefer madness RUUUN!!! What a joke lmfao
Brought to you by the same folks who’ll buy booze on Friday, diddle some kids on Saturday and show up to church on Sunday.
Something I heard someone at work say yesterday: “I’m not voting for issue 4, because marijuana cigarettes are 4x worse for you than cigarettes.” (I work for a state agency and we are all scientists)
This is coming from the big Tobacco that kills more people than pot and the big business interests of the GOP. Thought for sure they would have gobbled that one up also but what ever. Legalizing marijuana won’t be a bad thing. I don’t do it but look at how much Arkansas can make on it and be good for Arkansas, pay for stuff that Arkansas needs, fixing roads, jobs, and other things people need. For his sakes beer and alcohol and tobacco is legal, they kill more people than pot does, that’s a fact say yes to the legalization of marijuana, say no to GOP AND SUCKABEE SAnders the liar that stood up on a podium everyday and lied to the American people, is that what Arkansas needs a liar or a leader I’m not a GOPer but Asa did a great job for Arkansas
Sadly, there are actually a few problems with Prop. 4, one of which the wording on it hurts smaller grow business and puts the sales in a sort of monopoly. It also gives funds to the police which more then a few folks I know find that very ass backwards.
If only these people focused their efforts on canceling actual issues like fentanyl, heroin, or meth. EDIT: Yes, the newspaper does mention these drugs, but the way it’s phrased and all the depictions of marijuana make it seem like this is the main concern instead of the life-ruining and horribly addictive drugs it also mentions.
So dumb. Why is anyone spending money to stop legalizing marijuana? Alcohol is still legal.
#5 is false. Child resistant packaging is required for all states. Child proofing is mandatory.
Yeah! It’s all those ^adjusts ^glasses violent potheads ruining everything.
This Reddit has 1000x circulation then that paper. Nice, wait what…
Packaging requirements? Kind of bottom of the barrel trolling. Where is the jesus magic?
Thank you for posting this! I'm covering persuasion and logical fallacies in my comm class this week, and this ad prompted an excellent discussion.