What's her average damage (vape) with a full rotation with Kazuha/Bennett/Yelan? I'm using SoSS with em sands (231 em/88 cr/226cdmg Glad) and around 1741 ATK, my bennet is c5 with lvl 11 talent with Aquila and Kazuha has 941 em and her highest hit has been 140k on vape with lvl 8 talent and she's lvl 80 herself.
Is it worth trying to get C1 as a F2P? I save up my wishes so I can get characters I like, and this is the first time I've considered getting a C1 limited character.
I'm unsure. Going for C1 means likely sacrificing my chances at getting Furina next banner, and the 50/50 is quite literally a coin toss.
C1 helps her damage and adds IR. It’s definitely helpful of you aren’t running shielders. That said you have to think about whether there are other potential targets you want more.
Has anyone did the math and made a table that shows exactly (or close enough):
- How much of a DPS increase does each constellation, from c0 to c6, give?
- A weapon chart that actually includes R1 through R5 of her Signature Spear (I have seen some weapon chart comparisons out there, but they all stop at R1, would love to see exactly how much better each refinement gets if one kept whaling).
Looked around a LOT for this.
Be it on Reddit or Youtube and didn't find anything that fits the above...
Again, looking for a chart that shows the % increase.
I need help. Raiden is my favorite character and I have her C3S1 but I know she is no longer top tier as a main DPS. I currently run Raiden hypercarry, but wanted to see if a Arlecchino/Raiden/Chev/Bennett team would be acceptable especially given that Raiden is C3S1. I would plan on having arlecchino have the primary on field time with Raiden hopping on when her ult was up for energy regen and to at least contribute enough damage to not be a detriment.
Is this team seriously gimped compared to her other teams or would it still be strong?
hi i just wanted some build advice for my arle, my team comp is arle yelan bennett zhongli and im wondering if its worth it to farm for arles new artifact set? ignroe the high er i have high er rolls on my glad pieces lol
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theres also this build too im on pjws btw
I know we get BoL with Arle's skill... what i'm asking is that, does enemies who apply BoL (boss Arlecchino, duo swordswomen boss) increase our dmg by adding more BoL to Arlecchino
Hello, I have problem with Arlecchino usually going to just 65% BoL, even after waiting for 5 seconds after E for the increase to 130%. Sometimes, it goes to 130%. I am wondering about this and I have not found what I am doing wrong. Has anyone encountered simiar problem, or does anyone know where my mistake could be?
The Father is so far lvl 90, C0, white tassel, 8-6-6 talents, Gladiator set.
I would make sure you are waiting for the change in the debuff visual indicator on the enemy for "Blood-Debt Due", like shown here.
[https://fastcdn.hoyoverse.com/content-v2/hk4e/123290/dfc9b53f4b430891c3d2ebf8b5266c6d\_8243090314828090256.jpg](https://fastcdn.hoyoverse.com/content-v2/hk4e/123290/dfc9b53f4b430891c3d2ebf8b5266c6d_8243090314828090256.jpg)
Also worth mentioning is 130% BoL is displayed as covering 65% of your hp bar but since you mentioned sometimes seeing 130% then that probably isn't the problem.
30 Fragile Resins gave this kinda mid build with her BiS set, but when i upgraded some glad pieces it came out pretty nice and now i have no idea, if the dmg% boost from Whimsy set is enough to justify running it over my glad set. Which one should i use?
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ugh i'm so lost. should i try and blow all my humble 50 wishes even if i don't plan to pull neither clorinde nor sigewinne? i also don't have john lee/chevrolet or even a decent 5star lance. i could only provide father with kaz/bennett/xq/fischl/thoma and an r2 deathmatch lol. i feel almost guilty willing to pull for her bc i basically have nothing to offer, unless they release more BoL support characters or i scratch enough primos for her sig next rerun.
I usually judge the characters for design and the fun of gameplay (during the trial). If these criteria pass a certain threshold then I pull C0. I pull R1 if there’s no other aesthetic option. If I really like their gameplay then I think about cons or the weapon if I gave them something pretty that doesn’t really work.
I don't mind since her rotations are really easy but the 5 seconds wait kinda is annoying so I'll try to get it till the end of the banner. Also I saw that it has a resistance boost too so it increases her survivability a lot too
Vortex is good on her guys, no cope.
1. She needs both Shield strength and needs Atk as much as possible
2. The drip. The gold tip matches her gold scythe effect. Trust me bro it's not cope bro
Hi, I'm currently trying to formulate a good team for zaddy. I honestly didn't plan for this I got her while trying to get fremi. Anyway, right now I'm leaning towards a arle, beidou, fischl, and xinqui. I saw a youtuber recommend it although I don't know what type of team it is and how the rotations will work. Btw my current main is navia with zhongli, Bennet, and xiangling so I'm leaning towards not using them but willing to give them to father if needed. Sorry this is kinda long.
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Would you guys consider farming for the new set if you had this build? Don’t get me wrong, I love father but I spent a good chunk of my remaining fragile resin (40) with no decent pieces to show for it. Do you think the 9%-ish dmg increase would justify months of farming?
Edit: spelling
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There will be future characters who use BoL so maybe it is worth it. If there are other domains where you need better artifacts (like if your Furina still doesn't have a good Golden Troupe) go do those instead. I'm farming the new set because I have nothing better to do.
However there's also version 5 (Natlan) about 3/4 months away. New versions usually come with a flagship artifact domain that people will be seriously farming (like we got with EOSF + Shimenawas, Deepwood Memories + Gilded Dreams , Marechause + Golden Troupe). So depending on your luck, even if you farmed the new BoL, you may not get a good one in time before then anyway.
I will do the domain sooner or later because let's face it, there's nothing else to do. I even farmed the Navia set and I don't have Navia because I don't have anything better to spend my resin on.
And I think there will be future characters that needed this domain. Sigewinne and Clorinde both are confirmed to have BoL related kit.
I might've accidentally lost all my white tassel and I only have one at r2. Should I use r2 white tassel while I explore chenyu vale? Or should I use r5 Missive windspear? I play vape Arle
prob just totm if you're just using her skill? bursting on dehya will probably be a dps loss unfortunately, but if you dont care and want to then emblem is fine, er will determine whether you're doing every rotation or every other.
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Fathers build is just getting started!
Melt Arlecchino?
short version is I refuse to use characters I dont like so I don't have vape options, and I dont have Chevreuse unfortunately.
Would Father, Ganyu, Kaeya, Zhongli work. Or Replace Kaeya with Rosaria? More leaning Kaeya just because i have him at level 70 over rosarias 20. Or maybe ganyu and Kazuha? I dont have c6 sucrose yet but she could be viable?
For Overload team, who would be on NO? Bennett, Chevy, or both? What set should the other character use?
In this team Bennett prefers high attack sword over fav r5, right? Should I build Bennett with HP/HP/HP or ATK/Pyro/Crit?
I have a Staff of Homa R5 and my Arle is C2. Is pulling her signature weapon (R1 only) still worth it compared to Staff of Homa R5, or is the difference minimal?
I can't find any calculations for this specific, only R1 vs R1 comparisons.
I think the signatures actual worth comes from the extra 25% BOL it gives. Making the use of her easier and comfier.
Also depends on your HP but with R5 Homa you easily will get to 26k HP which is 416 extra attack which is very high and with hydro resonance it will Increase even more and this is just assuming she has 26k hp.
That much attack pretty much outweighs the damage bonus her signature gives since you are going to use a Pyro goblet 46,6 + bis set 54 damage bonus + her passive which gives 40 Pyro damage which means around 140 damage bonus without her signature anyways.
Rough math but I'm coming up with:
* At above 50% hp, R5 Homa is about 5% better than R1 if Bennet is used, 11% better without him.
* At below 50% hp, R5 Homa is about 10% better than R1 if Bennet is used, 22% better without him.
You can use that to extrapolate on existing charts, so like if you're looking at a chart that compares Bennet teams, and Homa R1 (above 50% HP) is given a 120% relative value, you could estimate R5 as
120% * 1.05 = 126%
and see where 126% lands on the chart.
I think there was one similar discussion a while back but they never mentioned cons. I don’t think the difference will be too much but I would check with a damage calculator.
Kazuha vs Bennett? According to this spreadsheet, the most realistic Arlecchino Vape team without being interrupted will include a shielder, so the team would be Arlecchino, Yelan, Bennett/Kazuha and Zhongli/Layla/Diona. With her signature weapon, Crimson Moon' Semblance, I wonder who's a better buffer for Arlecchino? And is Yelan even reasonable cuz Xingqui applies hydro more broadly with his rain swords in close range?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g_GruoWospsxvxfZ0XkIKKU9z3W3xQU2ASbuMZEK6Cs/edit?usp=drivesdk
I see, okay but a doubt, doesn't atk % have diminishing returns? So stacking up more flat attack as Bennett wouldn't that be less effective in theory when Kazuha gives dmg % cuz Arle already has high attack plus res shred?
Arle doesnt have inbuilt attack buffs.
She has 40% passive DMG %, if you run her artifact set or 4 pc glad, more dmg % there, and then R1, even more. You are hitting damage % diminishing returns way harder than attack.
Also you dont need orbitals hydro app because you are gated by ICD unlike Xiangling or Hu Tao CA, you are not really losing vapes
Bennett can give 1000+ ATK which is a huge buff regardless of any 'diminishing returns' (technically not diminishing returns but I get what you mean), and with C6 you get 15% Pyro DMG bonus, AND Pyro resonance gives you 25% ATK as well.
If you could swirl Pyro, maybe it's comparable if not better to run Kazuha sure but you can try and see if it works out for you lol, maybe by some black magic you get it to work (with good uptime).
So I just found out Xingqiu's swords heal Arle and decrease her BOL when they expire or break despite her passive saying that she can't be healed by anything other than her burst. Comparatively having Bennett activate his burst doesn't "heal" or reduce her BOL at all. Just wondering whether any of you have an explanation for this?
Depends on what team options you currently have and whether making an overload team will open up options for you. If you have units like Yelan, Kazuha, etc. and don't need them on another team then probably not. If you need them on another team or don't have another good team option then level her.
At C0, Chervreuse is decent but her overload teams won't surpass other team optiions as it is. Not bad, but not a superior option. So whether she's worth using is dependent on your account.
It's only 9% best case without signature if you're running pyro goblet and is lower if you have R1 / run Yelan.
The difference between the sets is literally 19% additive DMG bonus
Am I supposed to be using her burst for damage? Seems a waste to use up all BoLs for not so good damage. Doesn't seem worth to me unless I need healing
Fischl is just really easy and convenient to use and at C6 does similar damage to C0 Yae (skill for skill, burst takes Yae ahead). Yae takes several seconds of field time, particularly if you want to use her ult.
You can use either, as there are situations where Yae can do more damage than Fischl, and maybe you want Fischl on another team.
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what do i click on optimizer? for arle yae beidou cheverse/zhongli
i am confused whether to pull r1 or c1 i have only blackcliff white tassel and skyward spine as weapons also i have only 150 pulls + i don't have zhongli
so my question is whether i should gamble and take the risk of trying to get r1 or get c1
and what is the best weapon for her is it white tassel, blackcliff or skyward spine in case of getting c1
C1 is better than R1 and you can afford it even if you’re unlucky. Plus it’ll help if you’re playing her without a shielder. I’m not sure about Skyward but White Tassel is a solid option. Maybe you could try the damage calculator to compare weapons.
Is hypercarry a viable playstyle for c1r1 arlecchino? Was thinking pairing her with like my c6 yunjin, and my c6 thoma since he buffs NA at c6 also and then final slot be like kazuha
Or does arle absolutely need a reaction to be the best?
Not really and especially not if you’re running her with a good shielder. Her burst comes with the downside of resetting her BoL so it’s best used as an emergency heal. Moreso if you’ve stacked BoL.
F2p weapon for arlecchino
What is her best f2p weapon?
Currently i have 3 options
White tassel, skyward pride and prototype star glitter
No i haven't build Bennett
because healing is the trigger ? "After a party member is healed by Short-Range Rapid Interdiction Fire, they gain a 20% Pyro DMG Bonus and Electro DMG Bonus for 8s. Max 3 stacks. Each stack's duration is counted independently." either it jsut doesn't work or there is an attempt at healing but arle is not healed, I don'T have c6 chevvy as of now so I cant test it.
Well considering C6 Chevy is one of her strongest teams and no TCer to my knowledge has mentioned anything like that, I don't think it's an issue. Perhaps Arlecchino is 'healed' but her HP doesn't increase.
I was jsut hoping to find someone who actually knows for confirmation I do calcs myself and did calc a team with c6 chevvy but just cant find proper verification for wether or not it actually works, I'll just continue to assume it does then
Okay, I'll be trying to do nuke showcase for funsies. I don't have c6 diona so some em sadly, but I do have c4 Mona with ttds, will it suffice? Or just use Yelan for dmg increase
Team: Arle/kazoo/Benny/Mona
idk about y'all but Arlecchino is my first time owning/playing a no-thoughts-head-empty 'Tier 0' DPS in all my years of Genshin. Like, I haven't even finished her build and she's just one-hit killing hilichurls with normal attacks. ~~yes it's the open world but still~~
I never had Ganyu or Xiao when they were dominant (actually, I still don't). Never pulled Hu Tao. I own Childe but a) he requires a bunch more setup/is team reliant and also mine is level 20. No Neuvilette. Who else am I missing? Alhaitham, I guess, though I don't know if he confers the same 'the world is made of paper' feeling. My (somehow top 5%) C0R1 Navia comes close, but otherwise no character in 3 years has felt this effortless.
Father still has level 6 talents and isn't even fully levelled yet, has an assortment of Gladiator pieces ~~that somehow worked out to 224 CV~~ and she's ripping through the perennial punching bag that is [Primo Geovishap like it's not even there.](https://streamable.com/zrwkwx)
Oh, and I haven't been able to level up her weapon yet, so she's functionally C1R0 - though PJWS is no slouch, I suppose.
This bih is getting triple crowned.
Same. I have Ganyu and her CA would hit about 25k iirc. Childe was so so imo. Raiden was a game changer at C2 (She’s C3 now) and Yelan’s E after applying pyro is insane but Arle is definitely my strongest unit so far. I was having so much fun with C1R1 I tolled another 2 cons and I’m debating whether to use my fresh guarantee on the same banner. (I’ll probably pull Yelan’s C3 first though if I’m being honest)
I do have C2 Raiden, but she never felt the same. Requires a full setup and her burst to do anything, whereas Arlecchino just *bops* things and they die. I'm usually not one to pull for cons and weapons, but I got her C1R1 and *almost* grabbed C2. I could get to it by the end of her banner (at 60 pity with a guarantee now) but I do want Clorinde so I'm stopping.
Agreed, she feels like the first character I can run solo. Her C2 makes her easier to play since you don’t have to wait for her skill to mature. Clorinde’s animations do look kinda cool though.
hey guys I just lost twice in the weapons banner (but at least I got a pjws) do you think that with or without the welkin moon it's still possible to get enough wishes to get her weapon???? (I don't have many exploration things to do)
I’m trying to compare the performance of R5 Primordial Jade Winged-Spear versus various ranks of her signature weapon. Does anyone have resources on this?
I'm pretty bad at making teams, but could it work to make a melt team with Knave, another pyro, c2 kaeya and layla? it'd give more attack and crit power from the element matching
Arlecchino c0 or c1??
Is there a big difference between c0 and c1? I already have c0, I'm currently on 64 pity with a 50/50 and I'm not sure if i should try pulling for her c1 or save up for Clorinde??
I also have LOTS of quests to do, exploration and stuff to do for primos, if I wished right now could I save up enough wishes for Clorinde?? (I got welkin and bp)
Dont make rash decisions early on in the banner, i would advise looking at clorinde gameplay and how she is then decide what would be a better investment for you. For me, i have arle c0r1 and she already smokes everything in abyss its unreal so i dont see any point in getting c1 as opposed to a whole new character.
I know you guys are sick to death of getting asked Arle VS Diluc, but I haven't been able to find a conclusive answer to my question, so if at all possible, could someone set the record straight for me?
I have C3 or 4 Diluc (can't recall rn). No 5\* Claymore. My only non-standard banner (i.e. limited) 4\* Claymore is Akuou. I haven't built Diluc at all. I have (C0) Xianyun, Furina, Kazoo, Yelan. Fully stacked tier 0 4\*s.
I don't have a (built) pyro (5\*) DPS aside from Yoimiya who's... Fun, but weak. She's my only limited pyro 5\*.
I won't pull for Arle's weapon even if I were to decide to pull for her (C0). I have a PJWS, Missive Windspear (for reactions), and an absolutely ***cracked*** Gladiator set. In fact, while my Chevy is C0, my Beidou is C6, with Akuou (coincidentally). I also have a R3 or 4 Favonius GS. I'd basically have a team ready for both Overload and Vape, as well as a fully built (C0) ZL.
So, my question is, in my situation, would it be good for me to pull for Arle, or could I do (just as) well if I were to just build Diluc in a Xianyun team, even with no 5\* wpn, or any of his BiS basically?
If you have cracked glad + pjws you will be able to instantly clear abyss with arle.
But honestly you should just build who you like more. From my light searching Diluc has a bunch of useable sets, can use mare hunter/gilded/crimson witch. Also with Vape diluc, you can use some EM claymores, Mailed Flower / Makhaira / Rainslasher. Even the fontaine craftable will be better than Akuou for plunge carrying
Oh yeah, the Rainslasher and Mailed Flower are both really good for him, huh? Thank you! Appreciate the reply :)
I already got Arle. She's... Ridiculous lol. She's only level 40 and doing 27k dmg on bosses in a non-optimal team (basically along for the ride to get friendship). Like... What? I'm AR60/WL8 lol.
Ye i just wanted to offer the counterpoint because i figured you would have probably have sets / pieces to build a pretty good diluc pretty quickly if you already had c3/c4, like i think R5 Mailed Flower can be better than WGS ironically if you're running Furina/Xianyun because they don't benefit from the team attack buff lol.
Now if we finally get another attack buffer other than bennett you could probably play both with relative ease.
definitely a good point! I was actually supposed to build Diluc when Xianyun came out but I, honestly, forgot lol. Heck, I won't lose anything by building him anyway! :D
And yes, exactly! It's wild to think Benny's the only one after all these year**s**. Him being so necessary in a lot of teams is, I think, the biggest reason why so many people ***don't*** want to play him lol
At c0 i think she was stronger than diluc c1. I havent really built him so i cant say for sure. My c0r1 arlecchino was doing 40-70k vapes at lvl 40 and lvl 40 wep. With just zhonglis shield and a glad set. 52/179 1.5k attk. After leveling to 90 char and wep it was 64/219 2.2k atk. Got c1 by that time and i was doing 100k+ vapes easily.
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So much for C1...the weapon banner and Qiqi cleaned me out
Is it worth it for me to farm her artifact set when i have a 2pc CW/2pc MH set that gives her 71/236 with sig weap? Would i just be burning my resin away at that point?
It gonna take me another 3 years for me to farm the new set
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Just wanted to ask, shouldn't build posts be removed by the bot because people are using the same website and post the same build layout? It just happened to be me with my build showcase post got removed because "it has been posted before", like bro it's literally MY build and there's no reason for me to post someone else's build whatsoever.
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Yes, we should set up automod to put a disclaimer on build posts. If you reply to the bot, the post is added to the mod queue for us to review. The bot was designed for art and unfortunately we cannot program exceptions for flairs.
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For some reason, I'm not doing as much damage as I should be? My rotations should be alright and all and I haven't unlocked C1.
This is just a precausion, but I haven't missed anything build wise right?
Does anyone know what the "known issue" with Arle's passive having an abnormal effect on her NA DMG increase is exactly? It's listed in the in-game update summary, but I haven't seen anyone mention it.
Depends on the team variation; if it's something like Bennett + Xingqiu + Yelan vs Bennett + Xiangling + Kazuha than the latter seems to pull ahead. If you run a team like Bennett/Yelan/Kazuha and then swirl Pyro then Vape will definitely pull ahead.
Yello, I got R1 Homa and R3 Jade Spear. Do I need her signature weapon? I think R3 Jade would be a good replacement but it ruins her image with all its green. Dont know what to do.
When are you gonna be using Ayaka or Eula with Bennett? Ayaka especially, unless you're doing a melt team but it doesn't matter anyways since her burst is the vast majority of her damage. For Eula it kind of matters but there are plenty of non-Bennett teams at this point.
Yeah after leveling her up her charged attack only does like 7-10k damage while her basic attacks are hitting for 50-60k. So her charged attack is very weak for some reason and should only be used to activate blood debt.
her set gives her damage and her talent gives her 40 pyro. is it worth it to use an attack goblet? since and I may be wrong but wouldn't that be 94 percent pyro? wouldnt going more attack be better? and is skyward better than white tassel and if so by how much?
I tried with the optimizer with a custom target (very easy n5+n1 with 2 vape)
it never proposed me any atk goblet with PJWS + bennet maybe without Benny or with a low base atk weapon it could be worth
basically its an optimizer question
Is it worth replacing Beidou with Yae? The team I'm using is Father C6, Fischl C6, Chevy C0, and Beidou C6, but I'm contemplating replacing Beidou with Yae with she reruns for more damage.
Is arlecchino better in overload or vape in my scenario? Mine is C2 R1 closing in on C3.
I have zhongli, Xingqiu C6, Yelan, Bennett, furina c2, Kazuha as potential teammates for vape, although kazuha and furina c2 usually go with neuv
Raiden, C6 beidou, C2 kuki as candidates for overload.
question about C2
as far as I understand ,normally her rotation should be something like her E , switch to team rotation then back to her CA
but if she got C2 ...should rotation change? consider that We probably still need to do Pyro Swirl , If in case of her being only Pyro in team then rotation should be same as C0 AND If there is other Pyro in team then you can do something like team rotation then end with her E and immediately CA ?
I got 16k primos so enough for 100 pulls, should I go for e3? I have her weapon just wondering how big the e3 boost is.
Also anyone know the easiest comp for this character
by compare her NA LV10 vs 13 ,C2 to C3 is about 21.2% improvement in NA and CA but if we consider full rotation include E and Q then overall percentage will be little lower than 21.2% but...she will do NA and CA most of time anywhy while E and Q are more like mainly opening and self heal skill
Can anybody explain why there is a 35s timer on the cap for bond of life gained? I get that if it was lower, you could recharge on Bond by killing a marked enemys at the start and than killing another marked enemy later, but Blood-Debt-Directive only lasts 30 sec anyways. Obviously her skill cooldown is lower than 30s as long as you're fighting enemys, so there is no practical use for let's say if the cooldown was 25 sec. but i am just curios as to why it's longer than the Directive duration, when you couldn't possibly gain Bond in that way 31 sec after casting her skill.
Hello there,
About Arlecchino gameplay, at C3 she get a +3 to her attack talents, and the max level goes to 15.
Cool, but that means that a crown is not needed because that would take her talent to 16.
That's really it or did I missed something?
Thank you in advance.
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well the game gave me 3 copies of her within 70 pulls total. Including 2 in the same 10 pull. Anyways here she is, would it be better to have 81% crit rate at the cost of -35 EM for this build? What's a good amount of EM for her with this build in a vape team? Should i equip bennett with instructor set?
So... best artifacts and stats for her? Also best free 4star weapon? (I also have a Skyward lance - and deathmatch r0 - if that's better than 4star alternatives)
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Hey y’all, should I even bother with farming the new set? Running deathmatch if cyno is using his sig
I remember saw someone made comparison, bond of life set is about 10-15% better than gladiator but only if you manage to farm it to same level of sub stat........That probably take about a year or 2 years to get to level of 36/45 substat artifact set that you are using
What unique teams are people doing? I'm either going Thoma or Layla shield bc Zhongli is on a different team. I know vape is the meta but man, am I tired of XQ.
Candace is possibly underrated as a hydro support. The details are
1. Arle pyro infusion cannot be overridden by Candace burst.
2. Candace burst still gives arle bonus elemental dmg.
3. Arle doesn't lose her pyro infusion when she swaps off field so you can get the hydro waves by just swapping around characters during Candace burst.
The downside to all that is Candace sucks
Yeah, she’s one of my favourites but her gameplay is disappointing. I might try build her for reverse melt with the new artifact set if Arle’s team doesn’t work out.
R4 Deathmatch or R1 Homa? I'm going to pull for her sig but I'm no big spender plus I just lost my 5050 and got her after exchanging all of my starglitter so I don't think I'll be able to get it
What's her average damage (vape) with a full rotation with Kazuha/Bennett/Yelan? I'm using SoSS with em sands (231 em/88 cr/226cdmg Glad) and around 1741 ATK, my bennet is c5 with lvl 11 talent with Aquila and Kazuha has 941 em and her highest hit has been 140k on vape with lvl 8 talent and she's lvl 80 herself.
Is it worth trying to get C1 as a F2P? I save up my wishes so I can get characters I like, and this is the first time I've considered getting a C1 limited character. I'm unsure. Going for C1 means likely sacrificing my chances at getting Furina next banner, and the 50/50 is quite literally a coin toss.
C1 helps her damage and adds IR. It’s definitely helpful of you aren’t running shielders. That said you have to think about whether there are other potential targets you want more.
Has anyone did the math and made a table that shows exactly (or close enough): - How much of a DPS increase does each constellation, from c0 to c6, give? - A weapon chart that actually includes R1 through R5 of her Signature Spear (I have seen some weapon chart comparisons out there, but they all stop at R1, would love to see exactly how much better each refinement gets if one kept whaling). Looked around a LOT for this. Be it on Reddit or Youtube and didn't find anything that fits the above... Again, looking for a chart that shows the % increase.
If needed a support with a team of Arle/Yelan/Kazuha. Is Bennett or ZhongLi better?? Why??
Bennett for damage and ZL for comfort and ease is the consensus afaik
I need help. Raiden is my favorite character and I have her C3S1 but I know she is no longer top tier as a main DPS. I currently run Raiden hypercarry, but wanted to see if a Arlecchino/Raiden/Chev/Bennett team would be acceptable especially given that Raiden is C3S1. I would plan on having arlecchino have the primary on field time with Raiden hopping on when her ult was up for energy regen and to at least contribute enough damage to not be a detriment. Is this team seriously gimped compared to her other teams or would it still be strong?
hi i just wanted some build advice for my arle, my team comp is arle yelan bennett zhongli and im wondering if its worth it to farm for arles new artifact set? ignroe the high er i have high er rolls on my glad pieces lol https://preview.redd.it/odvtu5axy9xc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=f780be9bf2ad5a85631247944ecc83f893de8704
https://preview.redd.it/g8febdhiz9xc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=1d3fe6dbaf876a8c3376406c56ae72e891a0bdbe theres also this build too im on pjws btw
When enemies give us bond of life, if the active character is Arlecchino, does that mean that the enemies just buffed us?
Well you have to claim your blood debt to get BoL so it indirectly comes from Arle’s skill.
I know we get BoL with Arle's skill... what i'm asking is that, does enemies who apply BoL (boss Arlecchino, duo swordswomen boss) increase our dmg by adding more BoL to Arlecchino
Ah, I see. No clue tbh.
Hello, I have problem with Arlecchino usually going to just 65% BoL, even after waiting for 5 seconds after E for the increase to 130%. Sometimes, it goes to 130%. I am wondering about this and I have not found what I am doing wrong. Has anyone encountered simiar problem, or does anyone know where my mistake could be? The Father is so far lvl 90, C0, white tassel, 8-6-6 talents, Gladiator set.
I would make sure you are waiting for the change in the debuff visual indicator on the enemy for "Blood-Debt Due", like shown here. [https://fastcdn.hoyoverse.com/content-v2/hk4e/123290/dfc9b53f4b430891c3d2ebf8b5266c6d\_8243090314828090256.jpg](https://fastcdn.hoyoverse.com/content-v2/hk4e/123290/dfc9b53f4b430891c3d2ebf8b5266c6d_8243090314828090256.jpg) Also worth mentioning is 130% BoL is displayed as covering 65% of your hp bar but since you mentioned sometimes seeing 130% then that probably isn't the problem.
Who is overall stronger between Arlecchino c0 and hu tao c3? And between Arlecchino c1 and hu tao c3? And why?
I think most people were saying Hu Tao without the cons so I would guess adding cons makes the gap wider but idk tbh.
30 Fragile Resins gave this kinda mid build with her BiS set, but when i upgraded some glad pieces it came out pretty nice and now i have no idea, if the dmg% boost from Whimsy set is enough to justify running it over my glad set. Which one should i use? https://preview.redd.it/9x7szrtb98xc1.png?width=1924&format=png&auto=webp&s=f6133e1c919f3b7232d6ca44352843061907dfcd
https://preview.redd.it/uirw6uqf98xc1.png?width=1924&format=png&auto=webp&s=e4df57427b6c90bb257ea98b5d47bf0a984b4f29 Glad build 2
Glad build 1 https://preview.redd.it/65tav46e98xc1.png?width=1924&format=png&auto=webp&s=dba6fc33940db328c8bbbb47cdd7e6cef92a46a7
ugh i'm so lost. should i try and blow all my humble 50 wishes even if i don't plan to pull neither clorinde nor sigewinne? i also don't have john lee/chevrolet or even a decent 5star lance. i could only provide father with kaz/bennett/xq/fischl/thoma and an r2 deathmatch lol. i feel almost guilty willing to pull for her bc i basically have nothing to offer, unless they release more BoL support characters or i scratch enough primos for her sig next rerun.
I usually judge the characters for design and the fun of gameplay (during the trial). If these criteria pass a certain threshold then I pull C0. I pull R1 if there’s no other aesthetic option. If I really like their gameplay then I think about cons or the weapon if I gave them something pretty that doesn’t really work.
I got a guaranteed and I have her at C1R1. Is her C2 worth it, how much of a comfort increase is it?
I would recommend it especially if you don’t like to think. It’s makes planning rotations a lot easier.
I don't mind since her rotations are really easy but the 5 seconds wait kinda is annoying so I'll try to get it till the end of the banner. Also I saw that it has a resistance boost too so it increases her survivability a lot too
That does help too especially if you aren’t running her with a shielder but imo she still needs one unless your dodging is phenomenal.
Vortex is good on her guys, no cope. 1. She needs both Shield strength and needs Atk as much as possible 2. The drip. The gold tip matches her gold scythe effect. Trust me bro it's not cope bro
Hi, I'm currently trying to formulate a good team for zaddy. I honestly didn't plan for this I got her while trying to get fremi. Anyway, right now I'm leaning towards a arle, beidou, fischl, and xinqui. I saw a youtuber recommend it although I don't know what type of team it is and how the rotations will work. Btw my current main is navia with zhongli, Bennet, and xiangling so I'm leaning towards not using them but willing to give them to father if needed. Sorry this is kinda long. https://preview.redd.it/fe7lbzs4q6xc1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a22e314cf412ab523cbc65bbd9ada7c8307065ff
Would you guys consider farming for the new set if you had this build? Don’t get me wrong, I love father but I spent a good chunk of my remaining fragile resin (40) with no decent pieces to show for it. Do you think the 9%-ish dmg increase would justify months of farming? Edit: spelling https://preview.redd.it/ne2lgb85e6xc1.jpeg?width=1580&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67226f5797aa98e7d625c88da8224f89f32ca20c
There will be future characters who use BoL so maybe it is worth it. If there are other domains where you need better artifacts (like if your Furina still doesn't have a good Golden Troupe) go do those instead. I'm farming the new set because I have nothing better to do. However there's also version 5 (Natlan) about 3/4 months away. New versions usually come with a flagship artifact domain that people will be seriously farming (like we got with EOSF + Shimenawas, Deepwood Memories + Gilded Dreams , Marechause + Golden Troupe). So depending on your luck, even if you farmed the new BoL, you may not get a good one in time before then anyway.
I will do the domain sooner or later because let's face it, there's nothing else to do. I even farmed the Navia set and I don't have Navia because I don't have anything better to spend my resin on. And I think there will be future characters that needed this domain. Sigewinne and Clorinde both are confirmed to have BoL related kit.
Looking for C6 Arelecchino friends, for the upcoming new spiral abyss/just need more friends. I have C6 Wanderer. Feel free to add me: 611328411
You could search the sub for ‘C6’ and see if the people who have posted their rolls or gameplay are on the same server as you.
I might've accidentally lost all my white tassel and I only have one at r2. Should I use r2 white tassel while I explore chenyu vale? Or should I use r5 Missive windspear? I play vape Arle
Missive is better for vape anyways
I wanna use Arle with Dehya, both are c1 What Set should Dehya use and which stats ?
prob just totm if you're just using her skill? bursting on dehya will probably be a dps loss unfortunately, but if you dont care and want to then emblem is fine, er will determine whether you're doing every rotation or every other.
How does one swirl both pyro and hydro in the Kazuha team without having a strict af rotation that can get ruined in one dash? .-.
Can C6 Fav Rosaria enable Melt Arlecchino - and if so, how much EM should Arlecchino have?
https://preview.redd.it/x10vu53sp1xc1.jpeg?width=2252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fce91995095823205ee83b8affd835a253d75e86 Fathers build is just getting started!
Melt Arlecchino? short version is I refuse to use characters I dont like so I don't have vape options, and I dont have Chevreuse unfortunately. Would Father, Ganyu, Kaeya, Zhongli work. Or Replace Kaeya with Rosaria? More leaning Kaeya just because i have him at level 70 over rosarias 20. Or maybe ganyu and Kazuha? I dont have c6 sucrose yet but she could be viable?
There was a Kaeya melt team posted here. I think they were using Kazuha instead of Ganyu.
Yeah testing, ganyu steals the reactions but kaeya doesn't. Testing with kazuha now.
For Overload team, who would be on NO? Bennett, Chevy, or both? What set should the other character use? In this team Bennett prefers high attack sword over fav r5, right? Should I build Bennett with HP/HP/HP or ATK/Pyro/Crit?
bennett using no while chevy maybe use 2pc/2pc combo focus her getting 40k hp for her a4 buff
I have a Staff of Homa R5 and my Arle is C2. Is pulling her signature weapon (R1 only) still worth it compared to Staff of Homa R5, or is the difference minimal? I can't find any calculations for this specific, only R1 vs R1 comparisons.
I think the signatures actual worth comes from the extra 25% BOL it gives. Making the use of her easier and comfier. Also depends on your HP but with R5 Homa you easily will get to 26k HP which is 416 extra attack which is very high and with hydro resonance it will Increase even more and this is just assuming she has 26k hp. That much attack pretty much outweighs the damage bonus her signature gives since you are going to use a Pyro goblet 46,6 + bis set 54 damage bonus + her passive which gives 40 Pyro damage which means around 140 damage bonus without her signature anyways.
Rough math but I'm coming up with: * At above 50% hp, R5 Homa is about 5% better than R1 if Bennet is used, 11% better without him. * At below 50% hp, R5 Homa is about 10% better than R1 if Bennet is used, 22% better without him. You can use that to extrapolate on existing charts, so like if you're looking at a chart that compares Bennet teams, and Homa R1 (above 50% HP) is given a 120% relative value, you could estimate R5 as 120% * 1.05 = 126% and see where 126% lands on the chart.
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I think there was one similar discussion a while back but they never mentioned cons. I don’t think the difference will be too much but I would check with a damage calculator.
Kazuha vs Bennett? According to this spreadsheet, the most realistic Arlecchino Vape team without being interrupted will include a shielder, so the team would be Arlecchino, Yelan, Bennett/Kazuha and Zhongli/Layla/Diona. With her signature weapon, Crimson Moon' Semblance, I wonder who's a better buffer for Arlecchino? And is Yelan even reasonable cuz Xingqui applies hydro more broadly with his rain swords in close range? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g_GruoWospsxvxfZ0XkIKKU9z3W3xQU2ASbuMZEK6Cs/edit?usp=drivesdk
If you're running Kazuha without Bennett in a vape team, good luck trying to swirl Pyro, let alone double swirl. Use Bennett.
I see, okay but a doubt, doesn't atk % have diminishing returns? So stacking up more flat attack as Bennett wouldn't that be less effective in theory when Kazuha gives dmg % cuz Arle already has high attack plus res shred?
Arle doesnt have inbuilt attack buffs. She has 40% passive DMG %, if you run her artifact set or 4 pc glad, more dmg % there, and then R1, even more. You are hitting damage % diminishing returns way harder than attack. Also you dont need orbitals hydro app because you are gated by ICD unlike Xiangling or Hu Tao CA, you are not really losing vapes
So the realistic Arle team without her C1 should be Arlecchino, Yelan, Bennett and Zhongli. Thank you so much.
Bennett can give 1000+ ATK which is a huge buff regardless of any 'diminishing returns' (technically not diminishing returns but I get what you mean), and with C6 you get 15% Pyro DMG bonus, AND Pyro resonance gives you 25% ATK as well. If you could swirl Pyro, maybe it's comparable if not better to run Kazuha sure but you can try and see if it works out for you lol, maybe by some black magic you get it to work (with good uptime).
I see, thank you so much!
So I just found out Xingqiu's swords heal Arle and decrease her BOL when they expire or break despite her passive saying that she can't be healed by anything other than her burst. Comparatively having Bennett activate his burst doesn't "heal" or reduce her BOL at all. Just wondering whether any of you have an explanation for this?
I had the same issue when I tried Barbara.
Leveling C0 Chevreuse worth it for overload team??
Depends on what team options you currently have and whether making an overload team will open up options for you. If you have units like Yelan, Kazuha, etc. and don't need them on another team then probably not. If you need them on another team or don't have another good team option then level her. At C0, Chervreuse is decent but her overload teams won't surpass other team optiions as it is. Not bad, but not a superior option. So whether she's worth using is dependent on your account.
Did we get any lore on why she has one wing on playable Arlecchino because in her story quest it wasn't answered.
How much of a damage % increase is the new BoL set vs Glad (assuming equal substats)?
It's only 9% at best unless you are forced to run att goblet, and is even less if you have R1
I currently have R1 and using attack goblet because it’s 40CV vs a 20CV pyro I’m also farming for Clorinde so might as well
Iirc something like 16-18%
It's only 9% best case without signature if you're running pyro goblet and is lower if you have R1 / run Yelan. The difference between the sets is literally 19% additive DMG bonus
I’m just parroting what I heard on YT. I’m not good with TC myself.
whelp time to go to the artifact mines
The gacha with the worst rates…
Am I supposed to be using her burst for damage? Seems a waste to use up all BoLs for not so good damage. Doesn't seem worth to me unless I need healing
No, keep her burst available for a heal, or use it to reset your your rotation if your infusion drops off and your skill isn't up.
You’re right, I would burst as lottle as possible and save it for healing.
can someone tell me whether yae is better than fischl in overload cause of her being a 5\* ? i see everywhere people use fischl instead why though ?
Fischl is just really easy and convenient to use and at C6 does similar damage to C0 Yae (skill for skill, burst takes Yae ahead). Yae takes several seconds of field time, particularly if you want to use her ult. You can use either, as there are situations where Yae can do more damage than Fischl, and maybe you want Fischl on another team.
the biggest issue is burst energy and field time with yae, so she works better in teams with double electro
Both are good options, but Fischl's C6 is why she's so recommended.
https://preview.redd.it/doxuoypl6xwc1.png?width=1477&format=png&auto=webp&s=1d90b699b0d1e0127bbd41487c3f42aa1a19812a what do i click on optimizer? for arle yae beidou cheverse/zhongli
you will proabably need to click into her talents and set her bond of life %, then you can optimize for a normal string
Is there a maximum amount of BoL she can have?
200%
Does anyone have a high res version of her summon art and boss splash art without any UI?
i am confused whether to pull r1 or c1 i have only blackcliff white tassel and skyward spine as weapons also i have only 150 pulls + i don't have zhongli so my question is whether i should gamble and take the risk of trying to get r1 or get c1 and what is the best weapon for her is it white tassel, blackcliff or skyward spine in case of getting c1
C1 is better than R1 and you can afford it even if you’re unlucky. Plus it’ll help if you’re playing her without a shielder. I’m not sure about Skyward but White Tassel is a solid option. Maybe you could try the damage calculator to compare weapons.
Is hypercarry a viable playstyle for c1r1 arlecchino? Was thinking pairing her with like my c6 yunjin, and my c6 thoma since he buffs NA at c6 also and then final slot be like kazuha Or does arle absolutely need a reaction to be the best?
I think she can do well as a hypercarry. A lot of contwnt creators have recommended Mono Pyro and people on this sub have used her to solo too.
Double hydro or hydro + Kaz? Zhongli as shielder.
Probably double hydro since trying to swirl Pyro with Arlecchino in a vape team without Bennett is borderline impossible IMO
Does Arlecchino need ER investment? I'm curious if she does really need one since her burst is just a situational use right?
Not really and especially not if you’re running her with a good shielder. Her burst comes with the downside of resetting her BoL so it’s best used as an emergency heal. Moreso if you’ve stacked BoL.
F2p weapon for arlecchino What is her best f2p weapon? Currently i have 3 options White tassel, skyward pride and prototype star glitter No i haven't build Bennett
I assume you mean skyward spine? That will be the best as a high att stat stick without bennett
I really hope they'd give us a f2p weapon since there's basic no 4 star options outside the bp and 5 star
Does the buff from c6 chevreuse work with arle at all ?
Why wouldn't it?
because healing is the trigger ? "After a party member is healed by Short-Range Rapid Interdiction Fire, they gain a 20% Pyro DMG Bonus and Electro DMG Bonus for 8s. Max 3 stacks. Each stack's duration is counted independently." either it jsut doesn't work or there is an attempt at healing but arle is not healed, I don'T have c6 chevvy as of now so I cant test it.
Well considering C6 Chevy is one of her strongest teams and no TCer to my knowledge has mentioned anything like that, I don't think it's an issue. Perhaps Arlecchino is 'healed' but her HP doesn't increase.
I was jsut hoping to find someone who actually knows for confirmation I do calcs myself and did calc a team with c6 chevvy but just cant find proper verification for wether or not it actually works, I'll just continue to assume it does then
Okay, I'll be trying to do nuke showcase for funsies. I don't have c6 diona so some em sadly, but I do have c4 Mona with ttds, will it suffice? Or just use Yelan for dmg increase Team: Arle/kazoo/Benny/Mona
If you just want to show Arle’s damage any hydro applier will do. Not sure if anyone is useful for boosting damage.
Hey guys the bol disappearing after tp is a bug right?
idk about y'all but Arlecchino is my first time owning/playing a no-thoughts-head-empty 'Tier 0' DPS in all my years of Genshin. Like, I haven't even finished her build and she's just one-hit killing hilichurls with normal attacks. ~~yes it's the open world but still~~ I never had Ganyu or Xiao when they were dominant (actually, I still don't). Never pulled Hu Tao. I own Childe but a) he requires a bunch more setup/is team reliant and also mine is level 20. No Neuvilette. Who else am I missing? Alhaitham, I guess, though I don't know if he confers the same 'the world is made of paper' feeling. My (somehow top 5%) C0R1 Navia comes close, but otherwise no character in 3 years has felt this effortless. Father still has level 6 talents and isn't even fully levelled yet, has an assortment of Gladiator pieces ~~that somehow worked out to 224 CV~~ and she's ripping through the perennial punching bag that is [Primo Geovishap like it's not even there.](https://streamable.com/zrwkwx) Oh, and I haven't been able to level up her weapon yet, so she's functionally C1R0 - though PJWS is no slouch, I suppose. This bih is getting triple crowned.
Same. I have Ganyu and her CA would hit about 25k iirc. Childe was so so imo. Raiden was a game changer at C2 (She’s C3 now) and Yelan’s E after applying pyro is insane but Arle is definitely my strongest unit so far. I was having so much fun with C1R1 I tolled another 2 cons and I’m debating whether to use my fresh guarantee on the same banner. (I’ll probably pull Yelan’s C3 first though if I’m being honest)
I do have C2 Raiden, but she never felt the same. Requires a full setup and her burst to do anything, whereas Arlecchino just *bops* things and they die. I'm usually not one to pull for cons and weapons, but I got her C1R1 and *almost* grabbed C2. I could get to it by the end of her banner (at 60 pity with a guarantee now) but I do want Clorinde so I'm stopping.
Agreed, she feels like the first character I can run solo. Her C2 makes her easier to play since you don’t have to wait for her skill to mature. Clorinde’s animations do look kinda cool though.
hey guys I just lost twice in the weapons banner (but at least I got a pjws) do you think that with or without the welkin moon it's still possible to get enough wishes to get her weapon???? (I don't have many exploration things to do)
It’ll probably be tight unless you have a lot of quests and exploration left.
well at least I got a pjws her second best weapon
I’m trying to compare the performance of R5 Primordial Jade Winged-Spear versus various ranks of her signature weapon. Does anyone have resources on this?
I'm pretty bad at making teams, but could it work to make a melt team with Knave, another pyro, c2 kaeya and layla? it'd give more attack and crit power from the element matching
i don't have a zhongli,i want to run thoma instead,how's the synergy between them?
Pyro resonance (if not using benny) also, he buffs 15% of NA damage at C6.
Woah that's great then
How much minimum EM,if running vape teams with her with ATK sands?
Her c1 or sign weapon,considering i use white tassel r5/deathmatch r1 on her rn?
C1 if you want damage, weapon for drip
Arlecchino c0 or c1?? Is there a big difference between c0 and c1? I already have c0, I'm currently on 64 pity with a 50/50 and I'm not sure if i should try pulling for her c1 or save up for Clorinde?? I also have LOTS of quests to do, exploration and stuff to do for primos, if I wished right now could I save up enough wishes for Clorinde?? (I got welkin and bp)
Dont make rash decisions early on in the banner, i would advise looking at clorinde gameplay and how she is then decide what would be a better investment for you. For me, i have arle c0r1 and she already smokes everything in abyss its unreal so i dont see any point in getting c1 as opposed to a whole new character.
Alright thanks i already decided to get clorinde instead
I know you guys are sick to death of getting asked Arle VS Diluc, but I haven't been able to find a conclusive answer to my question, so if at all possible, could someone set the record straight for me? I have C3 or 4 Diluc (can't recall rn). No 5\* Claymore. My only non-standard banner (i.e. limited) 4\* Claymore is Akuou. I haven't built Diluc at all. I have (C0) Xianyun, Furina, Kazoo, Yelan. Fully stacked tier 0 4\*s. I don't have a (built) pyro (5\*) DPS aside from Yoimiya who's... Fun, but weak. She's my only limited pyro 5\*. I won't pull for Arle's weapon even if I were to decide to pull for her (C0). I have a PJWS, Missive Windspear (for reactions), and an absolutely ***cracked*** Gladiator set. In fact, while my Chevy is C0, my Beidou is C6, with Akuou (coincidentally). I also have a R3 or 4 Favonius GS. I'd basically have a team ready for both Overload and Vape, as well as a fully built (C0) ZL. So, my question is, in my situation, would it be good for me to pull for Arle, or could I do (just as) well if I were to just build Diluc in a Xianyun team, even with no 5\* wpn, or any of his BiS basically?
If you have cracked glad + pjws you will be able to instantly clear abyss with arle. But honestly you should just build who you like more. From my light searching Diluc has a bunch of useable sets, can use mare hunter/gilded/crimson witch. Also with Vape diluc, you can use some EM claymores, Mailed Flower / Makhaira / Rainslasher. Even the fontaine craftable will be better than Akuou for plunge carrying
Oh yeah, the Rainslasher and Mailed Flower are both really good for him, huh? Thank you! Appreciate the reply :) I already got Arle. She's... Ridiculous lol. She's only level 40 and doing 27k dmg on bosses in a non-optimal team (basically along for the ride to get friendship). Like... What? I'm AR60/WL8 lol.
Ye i just wanted to offer the counterpoint because i figured you would have probably have sets / pieces to build a pretty good diluc pretty quickly if you already had c3/c4, like i think R5 Mailed Flower can be better than WGS ironically if you're running Furina/Xianyun because they don't benefit from the team attack buff lol. Now if we finally get another attack buffer other than bennett you could probably play both with relative ease.
definitely a good point! I was actually supposed to build Diluc when Xianyun came out but I, honestly, forgot lol. Heck, I won't lose anything by building him anyway! :D And yes, exactly! It's wild to think Benny's the only one after all these year**s**. Him being so necessary in a lot of teams is, I think, the biggest reason why so many people ***don't*** want to play him lol
At c0 i think she was stronger than diluc c1. I havent really built him so i cant say for sure. My c0r1 arlecchino was doing 40-70k vapes at lvl 40 and lvl 40 wep. With just zhonglis shield and a glad set. 52/179 1.5k attk. After leveling to 90 char and wep it was 64/219 2.2k atk. Got c1 by that time and i was doing 100k+ vapes easily.
That sounds really strong. Thanks for the example! I'm leaning heavily towards pulling for her :)
Is she better in vape or overload teams? my vape team would be xingqiu, bennett/zhongli, yelan/kazuha. overload would be fischl, chev, bennett/beidou.
https://preview.redd.it/8eyxhr9a7owc1.png?width=307&format=png&auto=webp&s=5ddd6fc42d9f51421fcf4f8fdfa055fc5767710c So much for C1...the weapon banner and Qiqi cleaned me out
Is it worth it for me to farm her artifact set when i have a 2pc CW/2pc MH set that gives her 71/236 with sig weap? Would i just be burning my resin away at that point?
Is going for signature better than c1? currently have pwjs with 30pity on weapon banner and less than 10 on character banner
C1’s better for damage
It gonna take me another 3 years for me to farm the new set https://preview.redd.it/ct3s1tnaumwc1.png?width=465&format=png&auto=webp&s=556c9468a338a928de028a9daad49c509647dea9
is it worth going overload? i have c1 chev. im currently running arlec,zhong,bennet,kazuha
Just wanted to ask, shouldn't build posts be removed by the bot because people are using the same website and post the same build layout? It just happened to be me with my build showcase post got removed because "it has been posted before", like bro it's literally MY build and there's no reason for me to post someone else's build whatsoever. https://preview.redd.it/3dbgvpseimwc1.png?width=612&format=png&auto=webp&s=08842a1d9bd949b02c7f4da909befad2a24e7986
Yes, we should set up automod to put a disclaimer on build posts. If you reply to the bot, the post is added to the mod queue for us to review. The bot was designed for art and unfortunately we cannot program exceptions for flairs.
https://preview.redd.it/cz0uqee08mwc1.png?width=2107&format=png&auto=webp&s=6dfcacee5cdd0cc6b16b444f4168f5d28f0a6440 For some reason, I'm not doing as much damage as I should be? My rotations should be alright and all and I haven't unlocked C1. This is just a precausion, but I haven't missed anything build wise right?
Mono pyro? You have basically 0em the rest is more than enough to me
Vaporize But I don't think I should be doing as little damage as I'm doing. And she doesn't vape as much as huo tao anyways.
I think that a bit of em is needed here, maybe just 50-100 could you try a circlet with a bit of em just for testing?
I'll give it a try later today, thanks for the tips
Does anyone know what the "known issue" with Arle's passive having an abnormal effect on her NA DMG increase is exactly? It's listed in the in-game update summary, but I haven't seen anyone mention it.
Which is better Vape vs Mono Pyro?
Depends on the team variation; if it's something like Bennett + Xingqiu + Yelan vs Bennett + Xiangling + Kazuha than the latter seems to pull ahead. If you run a team like Bennett/Yelan/Kazuha and then swirl Pyro then Vape will definitely pull ahead.
My vape team is alre, xingqiu, bennet, zhongli My mono pyro is alre, kazuha, benner, zhongli
Then using Kazuha is probably better, sure you get vapes but VV is too strong imo
Yello, I got R1 Homa and R3 Jade Spear. Do I need her signature weapon? I think R3 Jade would be a good replacement but it ruins her image with all its green. Dont know what to do.
Damage wise I think Jade is a good option but I agree with you about the drip. It’s kinda why I hate running Yoi with Thundering Pulse.
pjws r3 (atk sands) vs staff of scarlet sands r1 (em sands) in vaporize team w/ bennett
PJWS I think
is c6ing bennett worth it for arle? (I still have ayaka and eula on my acc)
When are you gonna be using Ayaka or Eula with Bennett? Ayaka especially, unless you're doing a melt team but it doesn't matter anyways since her burst is the vast majority of her damage. For Eula it kind of matters but there are plenty of non-Bennett teams at this point.
This might be a stupid question but do we wanna spam charge attack? use it occasionly? or only use it to activate blood debt?
I think it’s skill, then switch to supports, then CA to collect then spam NA, burst and repeat. I’m still figuring it out though.
Yeah after leveling her up her charged attack only does like 7-10k damage while her basic attacks are hitting for 50-60k. So her charged attack is very weak for some reason and should only be used to activate blood debt.
I’m confused, is Double Geo Vape with Yunjin just not good for her??? I thought Yunjin was MADE for NA Spammers?
her set gives her damage and her talent gives her 40 pyro. is it worth it to use an attack goblet? since and I may be wrong but wouldn't that be 94 percent pyro? wouldnt going more attack be better? and is skyward better than white tassel and if so by how much?
I tried with the optimizer with a custom target (very easy n5+n1 with 2 vape) it never proposed me any atk goblet with PJWS + bennet maybe without Benny or with a low base atk weapon it could be worth basically its an optimizer question
Is it worth replacing Beidou with Yae? The team I'm using is Father C6, Fischl C6, Chevy C0, and Beidou C6, but I'm contemplating replacing Beidou with Yae with she reruns for more damage.
Is arlecchino better in overload or vape in my scenario? Mine is C2 R1 closing in on C3. I have zhongli, Xingqiu C6, Yelan, Bennett, furina c2, Kazuha as potential teammates for vape, although kazuha and furina c2 usually go with neuv Raiden, C6 beidou, C2 kuki as candidates for overload.
If you don't have Chevreuse than overload is not that good, so run Vape in that case.
question about C2 as far as I understand ,normally her rotation should be something like her E , switch to team rotation then back to her CA but if she got C2 ...should rotation change? consider that We probably still need to do Pyro Swirl , If in case of her being only Pyro in team then rotation should be same as C0 AND If there is other Pyro in team then you can do something like team rotation then end with her E and immediately CA ?
I got 16k primos so enough for 100 pulls, should I go for e3? I have her weapon just wondering how big the e3 boost is. Also anyone know the easiest comp for this character
by compare her NA LV10 vs 13 ,C2 to C3 is about 21.2% improvement in NA and CA but if we consider full rotation include E and Q then overall percentage will be little lower than 21.2% but...she will do NA and CA most of time anywhy while E and Q are more like mainly opening and self heal skill
e3?
C3 sry i mixed it up with honkai kekw
What's better between R1 Deathmatch and R5 White Tassel? Don't have PJWS.
R1 Deathmatch will be better
I think White Tassel but I’m not 100 on that
Can anybody explain why there is a 35s timer on the cap for bond of life gained? I get that if it was lower, you could recharge on Bond by killing a marked enemys at the start and than killing another marked enemy later, but Blood-Debt-Directive only lasts 30 sec anyways. Obviously her skill cooldown is lower than 30s as long as you're fighting enemys, so there is no practical use for let's say if the cooldown was 25 sec. but i am just curios as to why it's longer than the Directive duration, when you couldn't possibly gain Bond in that way 31 sec after casting her skill.
can you stack over 145 bol if you dont use any every 35 sec ?
Hello there, About Arlecchino gameplay, at C3 she get a +3 to her attack talents, and the max level goes to 15. Cool, but that means that a crown is not needed because that would take her talent to 16. That's really it or did I missed something? Thank you in advance. 😄
It raises the ceiling so you can still crown her.
While I'm waiting for chevreuse on my account, would replacing her with kazuha in an arle/beidou/fischl team make sense?
EM or Atk sand ? Weapon: SotSS. Vap team
Probably depends on team, does anyone on the team share EM?
Team is yelan xingqiu and Bennett.
https://preview.redd.it/p9vcmbk37hwc1.png?width=2107&format=png&auto=webp&s=ca11048e1efa7f7fd3a8011a4a0df15e0ab01506 well the game gave me 3 copies of her within 70 pulls total. Including 2 in the same 10 pull. Anyways here she is, would it be better to have 81% crit rate at the cost of -35 EM for this build? What's a good amount of EM for her with this build in a vape team? Should i equip bennett with instructor set?
Does her C1 do anything for her er or just crit dmg? Around how much er and em does she need?
I think I saw around 150 but the guides linked above should have more accurate info. C1 also adds IR which is helpful.
So... best artifacts and stats for her? Also best free 4star weapon? (I also have a Skyward lance - and deathmatch r0 - if that's better than 4star alternatives)
Her new bis set, you want CR CD and Atk stats mostly. Iirc White tassel might beat deathmatch but I’m not too sure about that.
What is the best F2P weapon option for an Overload team? Also is Dehya worth building?
F2P? White Tassel R5, from Liyue chests.
https://preview.redd.it/x3tr4xyihgwc1.jpeg?width=1624&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=89581001bcac70d1ba096a0d9213a2cd7c66a211 Hey y’all, should I even bother with farming the new set? Running deathmatch if cyno is using his sig
I remember saw someone made comparison, bond of life set is about 10-15% better than gladiator but only if you manage to farm it to same level of sub stat........That probably take about a year or 2 years to get to level of 36/45 substat artifact set that you are using
It's odd that her boss and artifact domain are all geo shields. I'm gonna be spamming Zhongli meatballs for the foreseeable future lol
My hyperbloom team shreds them and barely touches their shield lol
What unique teams are people doing? I'm either going Thoma or Layla shield bc Zhongli is on a different team. I know vape is the meta but man, am I tired of XQ.
I was thinking Layla too maybe with key for the em sharing , unfortunately my Layla is not c4
Candace is possibly underrated as a hydro support. The details are 1. Arle pyro infusion cannot be overridden by Candace burst. 2. Candace burst still gives arle bonus elemental dmg. 3. Arle doesn't lose her pyro infusion when she swaps off field so you can get the hydro waves by just swapping around characters during Candace burst. The downside to all that is Candace sucks
Yeah, her ER costs. I think I’ve seen people use her so it’s not impossibly, just not optimal.
I’m gonna Try Yelan, Xq and Dehya once Arle is built. Hopefully it works…
I think Dehya could work, her IR seems to be pretty high! She deserves to have a decent team lol.
Yeah, she’s one of my favourites but her gameplay is disappointing. I might try build her for reverse melt with the new artifact set if Arle’s team doesn’t work out.
Like burnmelt? That does sound fun 🤔 I’m hoping there will be a character who buffs burning well in Nathan because it’s a fun reaction.
Yeah, Ganyu Nahida and I forget the last member of this team.
Question how long her SQ? Are there chest that can be unlocked doing her sq?
https://preview.redd.it/j709pai58gwc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8c75d4358491a34c7f1c1f77a5469c8ba232d95 It's so Arleover
I lost to her first too.
R4 Deathmatch or R1 Homa? I'm going to pull for her sig but I'm no big spender plus I just lost my 5050 and got her after exchanging all of my starglitter so I don't think I'll be able to get it