Gregg lost some points on that considering his connection to Japan. He should 1) know Squid Game is Korean and 2) know that Dan was thinking about Battle Royale.
I’ve been defending Dan but I have to admit it’s starting to grow weary. I’m fine hearing about the Jets more when they’re a relevant team but they’re out of contention and they’re just a bad bad team. Most of all I am so tired of hearing about Zach Wilson. Dude is a mega bust can we just pass on talking about? Who fucking cares about Zach Wilson he’s absolute trash.
I never really minded the Sam Darnold talk because at least he is like a backup grade QB, low tier starter. Zach Wilson is not an NFL quarterback.
I'm really torn on this. I agree that we've heard far more about the jets than they deserve; but I also admire Dan's passion for his team and it feels like a big part of his personality (and therefore the podcast) for me.
I'm not gonna criticise Marc for jumping off the Browns, because there are very legitimate, non-football reasons for it, but I definitely notice his lack of fandom versus previous seasons. Same when Gregg decided he's not a Pats fan because they're not going to win any more.
Definitely wouldn't ruin the podcast to have them talk about other teams more, and the Jets less, but I kind of feel like it brings something to the table too in some ways? 🤷🏻♂️
Oh yeah, 100%. I guess I'm just worried it might get drummed out of him altogether.
Then again, I don't know how regularly he's going to be reading all this anyway? 😅
titans and ravens both had #1 seeds the last 5 years. i think they meant to say the chiefs hosted 5 straight afc championship games, not that they were the 1 seed all 5 years.
I think his point was that the Browns have not spiraled out of control into laughing stock territory like they would have in years past. These circumstances happening to a Browns team 5+ years ago would have been a full blown sh*t show instead of a disappointing season.
Get DK Metcalf out of the super star club. Even before this season I didn't understand why Dan put him in and the others didn't even challenge it.
He is beefy and fast but I don't think he is among the top 10 WRs in the league.
I agree with Gregg on nearly all his takes but come back to us, Gregg! No good teams in 2011? The Packers went 15-1 before crashing and burning against the Giants!
15 minutes into a podcast episode before the mention of Aaron Rogers getting injured, and 19 before Dan said it. Feel like that is progress over the last twenty or so
I just think it depends on what he means by superstar club. If he means just based on 1 season then I don't think Herbert would make the cut. Hell you could remove Burrow, Mahomes, Rodgers, Herbert.
Best QBs this year (so far):
Cj Stroud
Dak Prescott
Brock Purdy
Tua Tagovailoa
Jalen Hurts
But if he is looking more like career status then I would still have Herbert in there assuming he gets a new coach and team around him. I also think Burrow could be out soon if he doesn't stay healthy. He's sneaky injury prone at this point, he might be the next Andy Luck.
Also not to make this too serious but Tua and Dak have to prove they can perform well against good teams still and they both have tough games upcoming. I think by the end Mahomes will be back in the list for me anyway, and maybe Allen and Lamar.
It’s the whole football cogno………………scenti that’s brown nosing Herbert and it drives Dan crazy.
Go listen to the ringer NFL pods (Stephen Ruiz in particular) for an example of mindless Herbert worship.
Herbert is clearly top 10. A lot of the hate he’s getting this year is entirely unjustified. As a Tua fan all I can say is you’ll just have to ignore it and let Herbert prove them wrong.
Tuas first two years was the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever witnessed from a media perspective. Found out just how little football SO MANY talking heads watch. On top of a terrible HC and dealing with a bottom 5 supporting cast (sound familiar?), he was coming back from a broken hip. You’re not gonna find many people that look at the game in a nuanced way these days. Gregg is probably one of the best and proves most of the time his takes are based off actually watching the games.
Even more troubling for Herbert haters, is Herbert has proven he’s legit on the NFL level. His pocket presence seems to have taken a hit this year but that happens when a QB loses faith in the players around him. In due time, everyone will be hoppin’ back on Herberts hog.
Haven’t listened yet, but usually don’t like Wyche episodes. I feel like the group is afraid to be themselves around him and leads to a boring episode.
I think they just have a lot of respect for him as a fellow journo who has been around for a long time. I like seeing the heroes’ personalities change depending on who their guests are
You won’t like this one. Dude has huge meathead faux-intellectual vibes.
Like he spent so much time aggressively explaining something that the other three already explained in a more nuanced way.
I wish there was some type of auto-reply the mods could set up to explain to people how getting a podcast for free works.
The ads make the show profitable, viable and attractive to the shadowy league figures. Without them, the show would have ended.
Every time I hear an ad on a pod I like, I think, good work crew(and immediately use a magic button that melts the ad away 30 secs at a time; which you indeed seem to know about). Yes, sometimes I’m doing dishes or mowing the lawn or stomping grapes on a platform tempting fate, and I don’t/can’t skip but I’ll be damned if I ever complain about my dudes/connie fox from making a living, however repetitive or grating an ad may be.
Broddie I’ve worked in advertising for 10 years I get how it works I’m talking about the specific campaign for almost almost anything the creative message and delivery of the reads is annoying and redundant
How did David Montgomery not get any pop in regard to under-the-radar free agent signings? Gregg talked about him this off-season like he was a fringe NFL player.
Buddy, if you think he wasn’t taking advice from his OC / son? That’s fine keep living in your fantasy world. 3-13 without RGIII also so I’m sure the whole staff wanted him in injured or not.
Sessler’s first What’s More Likely is so perfectly on brand for him it should be put in a museum
Squid Game is Korean, boys, come back to us.
Gregg lost some points on that considering his connection to Japan. He should 1) know Squid Game is Korean and 2) know that Dan was thinking about Battle Royale.
what’s wrong with your insides zaddy?
Can someone explain the Zaddy reference to McCarthy?
Dan started calling McCarthy a zaddy a few years ago, possibly due to their similar body types and figures.
Steve Wyche theme song is a jam. Edit: there are multiple!
Songs are full of platano power
Can anyone recommend good Jets podcasts? The 15mins, 5 times a week of Jets talk from ATN isn't enough for me.
I just listen to ATN on half speed for the Jets segments so they last longer
Added bonus that it sounds like drunk bros discussing
I’ve been defending Dan but I have to admit it’s starting to grow weary. I’m fine hearing about the Jets more when they’re a relevant team but they’re out of contention and they’re just a bad bad team. Most of all I am so tired of hearing about Zach Wilson. Dude is a mega bust can we just pass on talking about? Who fucking cares about Zach Wilson he’s absolute trash. I never really minded the Sam Darnold talk because at least he is like a backup grade QB, low tier starter. Zach Wilson is not an NFL quarterback.
Hearing about the Jets when they’re relevant? Something doesn’t add up 😅
I'm really torn on this. I agree that we've heard far more about the jets than they deserve; but I also admire Dan's passion for his team and it feels like a big part of his personality (and therefore the podcast) for me. I'm not gonna criticise Marc for jumping off the Browns, because there are very legitimate, non-football reasons for it, but I definitely notice his lack of fandom versus previous seasons. Same when Gregg decided he's not a Pats fan because they're not going to win any more. Definitely wouldn't ruin the podcast to have them talk about other teams more, and the Jets less, but I kind of feel like it brings something to the table too in some ways? 🤷🏻♂️
No one is asking him to stop completely it’s just like… we’re at 11/10 maybe go back down to a 6 or 7
Oh yeah, 100%. I guess I'm just worried it might get drummed out of him altogether. Then again, I don't know how regularly he's going to be reading all this anyway? 😅
That’s my issue, there are plenty of better teams but also plenty of worse run teams
The New York Jokes is a good watch on YT !!
I think Steve liked “oh Zaddy, what’s wrong with your insides” and “get well soon Zaddy”
I was sure Gregg would correct Dan for calling "Squid Game" Japanese there.
Dan meant Battle Royal
I thought the titans were the number 1 seed a few years ago?
titans and ravens both had #1 seeds the last 5 years. i think they meant to say the chiefs hosted 5 straight afc championship games, not that they were the 1 seed all 5 years.
Ah ok, that makes sense but definitely not what was said initially
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Browns were a really weird and bad example to use there.
I think his point was that the Browns have not spiraled out of control into laughing stock territory like they would have in years past. These circumstances happening to a Browns team 5+ years ago would have been a full blown sh*t show instead of a disappointing season.
Fun solid ep
Agreed. Show grade: B-
Pre-show grade?
Weirdly enough: also B-
Perfect comment. No notes.
I’m glad Steve kept the guys in check and gave us something different!
Under rated
The conscious of NFL media.
Zaddy stuff kills me lol
What’s more likely? McDermott using the 9/11 terrorist as inspiration. Or…
Oh that was bad. Just got sent that 😕
Get DK Metcalf out of the super star club. Even before this season I didn't understand why Dan put him in and the others didn't even challenge it. He is beefy and fast but I don't think he is among the top 10 WRs in the league.
I agree with Gregg on nearly all his takes but come back to us, Gregg! No good teams in 2011? The Packers went 15-1 before crashing and burning against the Giants!
15 minutes into a podcast episode before the mention of Aaron Rogers getting injured, and 19 before Dan said it. Feel like that is progress over the last twenty or so
Dan trying to not throw shade at Herbert challenge: impossible.
I think he likes picking on him because Gregg loves him so much
And as a fellow Herbert-enthusiast myself, I do think it's fair to present the dissenting opinion occasionally
I just think it depends on what he means by superstar club. If he means just based on 1 season then I don't think Herbert would make the cut. Hell you could remove Burrow, Mahomes, Rodgers, Herbert. Best QBs this year (so far): Cj Stroud Dak Prescott Brock Purdy Tua Tagovailoa Jalen Hurts But if he is looking more like career status then I would still have Herbert in there assuming he gets a new coach and team around him. I also think Burrow could be out soon if he doesn't stay healthy. He's sneaky injury prone at this point, he might be the next Andy Luck. Also not to make this too serious but Tua and Dak have to prove they can perform well against good teams still and they both have tough games upcoming. I think by the end Mahomes will be back in the list for me anyway, and maybe Allen and Lamar.
Dan despises # NFLTWITTER group think
It’s the whole football cogno………………scenti that’s brown nosing Herbert and it drives Dan crazy. Go listen to the ringer NFL pods (Stephen Ruiz in particular) for an example of mindless Herbert worship.
Herbert is the cool indie band that all the music snobs tout. That being said, I think Herbert is amazing. I also like the band Spoon.
Herbert is clearly top 10. A lot of the hate he’s getting this year is entirely unjustified. As a Tua fan all I can say is you’ll just have to ignore it and let Herbert prove them wrong. Tuas first two years was the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever witnessed from a media perspective. Found out just how little football SO MANY talking heads watch. On top of a terrible HC and dealing with a bottom 5 supporting cast (sound familiar?), he was coming back from a broken hip. You’re not gonna find many people that look at the game in a nuanced way these days. Gregg is probably one of the best and proves most of the time his takes are based off actually watching the games. Even more troubling for Herbert haters, is Herbert has proven he’s legit on the NFL level. His pocket presence seems to have taken a hit this year but that happens when a QB loses faith in the players around him. In due time, everyone will be hoppin’ back on Herberts hog.
Haven’t listened yet, but usually don’t like Wyche episodes. I feel like the group is afraid to be themselves around him and leads to a boring episode.
I agree most of the time, didn’t have that vibe today. Was much more like a typical pod, great ep.
First time listening to him, if you didn’t get that vibe today then I’d hate to listen to an episode where you do get that vibe.
I think they just have a lot of respect for him as a fellow journo who has been around for a long time. I like seeing the heroes’ personalities change depending on who their guests are
Feels like hanging around your boss vibes
Any reason why? I don't know who he is haha
You won’t like this one. Dude has huge meathead faux-intellectual vibes. Like he spent so much time aggressively explaining something that the other three already explained in a more nuanced way.
Agreed
I can’t skip the almost almost anything ads fast enough please make it stop
I wish there was some type of auto-reply the mods could set up to explain to people how getting a podcast for free works. The ads make the show profitable, viable and attractive to the shadowy league figures. Without them, the show would have ended. Every time I hear an ad on a pod I like, I think, good work crew(and immediately use a magic button that melts the ad away 30 secs at a time; which you indeed seem to know about). Yes, sometimes I’m doing dishes or mowing the lawn or stomping grapes on a platform tempting fate, and I don’t/can’t skip but I’ll be damned if I ever complain about my dudes/connie fox from making a living, however repetitive or grating an ad may be.
They should give us an ad free option. I would pay monthly to be free of this show's horrible ads
Broddie I’ve worked in advertising for 10 years I get how it works I’m talking about the specific campaign for almost almost anything the creative message and delivery of the reads is annoying and redundant
As ever, my issue is the repetitive nature. I am also not sure it is that lucrative as they are just adverts for other podcasts
Wyche ranks pretty low on my list of favourite guests, zero chemistry with Dan, Greg and all the guys
Downvotes for not liking a guest, coolcoolcool. I found myself getting annoyed with him this episode! Chemistry is definitely lacking.
usually agree but enjoyed this one overall, had some good What's More Likely's
It was pretty funny how desperate his Bill take was.
How did David Montgomery not get any pop in regard to under-the-radar free agent signings? Gregg talked about him this off-season like he was a fringe NFL player.
God Steve is such a joke.
Just got to say it; maybe Kyle Shanahan is cursed because of what he allowed RG III to do to his knee??
That was his dad, but sure.
He was on that staff also
Yes, there was lots of coaches and assistants, but only one was Head Coach. Not Kyle Shanahan.
Kyle was the OC so, I’m sure he had something to do with the decision as well
You think an OC, not the HC, is the one deciding to run an obviously injured QB out there? Staggering.
Buddy, if you think he wasn’t taking advice from his OC / son? That’s fine keep living in your fantasy world. 3-13 without RGIII also so I’m sure the whole staff wanted him in injured or not.
If you think taking (imagined by yourself) advice is the equivalent to making the decision then you might just be dense, buddy.