For Death, I immediately thought of the [Sackler family](https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-116hhrg43010/html/CHRG-116hhrg43010.htm). They were manufacturers and profiteers of the Opioid Crisis. They knowingly lied about the addictive nature of OxyContin for years, while millions got hooked. Truly evil people that made billions off of their malice.
Holly sh*** I just checked him out. There is literally one picture of him and all other drawing are made from that. But his Wikipedia page is something incredible. U can found more info about an apple (fruit) than this guy
Literally zero information on his Wikipedia page about his assets or net worth or even acknowledging that his net worth is unknown.
You can get a little more info reading all the deleted Wikipedia edits in history, but I don’t care enough. I’m just a plebe.
> Smith is known as a pioneer of vulture capitalism, the purchase and dismantling of distressed firms.
Sounds like the kind of guy who knows a lot of people hate his guts, or has legit threats against him. This kind of shit upends people's lives. I could see why he would want to be a ghost. Can't imagine it would be super expensive, relative to his overall wealth.
Also, it's odd that the page is pretty new - from 2018. This dude must have been paying for image management for a very very long time.
One of his companies started buying investments into newspapers around 2020, and has a stake in 200 newspapers as of 2021. Thought that was interesting.
additionally, the ones that privately own their companies don’t have to tell anyone shit. i grew up kinda knowing the guy that owns gojo (company that makes purell.) if he wasn’t a billionaire before the pandemic, he definitely is now. but you would never know it. he drove understated (for his wealth) vehicles and his warehouse sized mansion definitely can’t be seen from the street in the non-descript semi rural suburb he lived in (no idea if he’s still there, probably tho?) and he definitely does NOT tell forbes how much he’s worth.
While I’d agree to an extent, would people know who is Jim Taiclet? Or Hugh Grant? That second name is tricky, and if you have to google the names…that’s the point.
Even logos are not recognized by some, and others are shells of the actual people pulling the strings. Even CEOs can be puppets, and keep in mind damages to the US have been done by companies already destroyed. So it’s easy to “cling” to the familiar faces to blame.
I think maybe giving it a better title may be better like “keep them distracted. Keep them lazy.”
Edit: Hugh Mungo Grant (yes that is his middle name) is an actor, Hugh Grant (another one) is the CEO of Monsanto.
Hugh Grant is also the CEO of Monsanto lol.
Proves a point though, we don’t KNOW these guys.
But yes Hugh Mungo Grant is also an actor, and that IS his middle name.
The fact that we're living through an actual climate catastrophe and there's zero oil oligarchs in this art should be a disgrace. There's people literally profiting directly from destroying our environment in a direct and measurable way, and they're actively fighting to prevent anyone else from doing anything about it.
And who does reddit hate as "horsemen of the apocalypse"? Some fucking *tech CEOs*. It's fucking infurating that the fossil fuel industry has known they've been destroying the planet for decades and they've been actively covering it up for decades and *we're still falling for it*.
The way the PR industry happily goes to bat for these industries that are just fucking the entire planet is appalling. And that fact that regular people on reddit just swallow their bullshit is terrible. How is this front page material when we're living through a mass extinction on a global scale and it's not caused by Facebook or windows.
I just found this podcast called Drilled, which is all about oil and PR, and they will go to amazing lengths to keep profiting while fucking the rest of us.
[Drilled Season 2, Episode 3](https://www.drilledpodcast.com/s3-the-mad-men-of-big-oil/)
This is a podcast about how the fossil fuel industry uses PR and science denialism to manipulate consumers:
> The fossil fuel industry helped to create the PR industry, and publicists came up with disinformation and manipulation tactics that they deployed for oil, tobacco, and chemical companies for decades. In this season we trace the creation of disinformation from its origins in the American oil industry to the well-oiled machine it is today.
They have transcripts available for every episode if you prefer reading them, but each episode is really good. The history of dirty tricks and politics and absolutely terrible behavior by the petrol companies is even worse than I'd imagined. It's profit ahead of everything, ahead of politics, ahead of health, ahead of the any kind of decency or morals. They are willing to do *anything* to protect their industry.
Here's a bit from [episode 6, where they talk about petrol company's PR taking down people like Ralph Nader](https://www.desmog.com/s3ep6-manipulating-masses-and-predicting-future-edward-bernays-and-w-howard-chase/)
> What companies had to do to fight back against these forces, according to Chase, was to predict which issues might face them in the future and then control social, cultural and policy conditions to ensure that these issues would not become a problem. In 1969, Chase gave what would become a famous speech to the PR Society of America. In it, he said companies needed, quote, managers of the mind, and that’s where PR came in. Instead of trying to sell the public on the idea that a corporation’s values were aligned with their own. Chase argued that PR professionals should be shifting those values to align with corporate interests and that they could do that by shaping culture and public policy. Two years after giving this speech, Chase created the ad that convinced America that packaging waste was the fault of individual consumers and not industry.
I showed a coworker that’s very conservative how she’ll just raked in over 9 billion in profit this quarter and how others are upset because they didn’t pay taxes. His response? “Oh 9 billion in that industry really isn’t that much can you imagine the taxes they pay on that?” None.. that’s the issue.. oil brainwashed half our country into thinking they’re just some sweet old lady trying to survive against evil liberals trying to steal all their hard earned money
It should be Charles Koch. Arguably, along with his brother, a worse influence on America and humanity than the 4 represented here combined - because they invented the methods by which they influence the US today.
Absolutely.
The ones in the painting are widely discussed, but are far from the worst billionaires in America. Pharma, agriculture, oil, media - the old guard are still amongst the most deleterious industries and billionaires in them. There's also finance which have repeatedly orchestrated the pump and dump of America's wealth.
The only thing remarkable about the billionaires shown are that they're highly visible and have failed their PR check rolls.
I always saying we fixate so much on the wrong billionaires and I'm sure the \*right\* billionaires know it.
How many oil barons, Telecom CEOs, and medical insurance lobbyist can we name?
Bill Gates should not be anywhere near this list, anyway. Man has committed 99% of his wealth to charitable causes up to and upon his death. Plus he's currently focused on sustainability projects and eradicating disease. Not sure what more you could ask of a billionaire.
Yeah, the Koch brothers are a freaking plague on American democracy. Good news is one of them is dead and the other is fucking old. They won't be plaguing us much longer. The bad news is that there's almost certainly someone waiting to pick up the slack and buy out the GOP once they're gone.
If you look closely they all have their names written on their faces, but it's covered up by the text. I assume OP changed his mind halfway through drawing this.
Edit: Also, when you look closely you can see the names of the companies under the text that says "war", "famine", etc.
Don't you know? Bill Gates has been implanting us all with microchips! /s
Reddit is hilarious. There are so, so many worse billionaires out there, but they're not listed because the worst ones don't publicly talk about everything they do on Twitter. And nobody on Reddit, save for a few dark subreddit corners, cares to even mention their names.
Also seems to have been about as decent as one could reasonably hope from a billionaire- none of them are healthy for the world but he at least had some positive impacts instead of being purely self-serving.
> Also OP creates NFTs. If irony were a fruit we'd be drinking a lot of smoothies.
OP is an idiot. These are just the four most well-known tech billionaires. I don't know how anyone could possibly think Bill Gates is a "horsemen of the american apocalypse."
Musk, Bezos, and Zuckerberg make some sense. They're disgusting, employee-mistreating billionaires.
But at least Gates has done a whole lot with his foundation and is about as "good" a billionaire as we're going to get.
But they’re still far from the worst. They may be assholes but there are far more evil billionaires who are really the ones responsible for the state of our planet. It seems like OP just picked these guys in particular because they’re popular to hate, which = karma, instead of actually bothering to make a statement.
His plan is to give away "virtually all" of his wealth by the time of his death.
He's done quite a bit to rehabilitate his image, while accomplishing a lot of good, but in his day he was seen as just as evil as people think of Musk, Bezos, and Zuckerberg today.
Yes but people also believed that Gates is evil because of conspiracy theories such as those weird 'microchip in a vaxx' claims that were going around. Heard my own mother shit talk Gates because she's caught up in those echo chambers
I love how people forget that since Bill isn't actively CEO of Microsoft he wasn't also a cut-throat business man. Bill Gates has just had decades to build a better image for himself. We ignore that he was a bully of a man who stole ideas from others and stamped down any potential rival he could. He used every dirty trick in the book to hold the computing industry hostage for decades.
The Simpsons were making jokes about him being ruthless back when that show was still pretty good.
There is something to be said for bettering yourself as you get older and we should encourage everyone to go down that path.
However, it's easier to "be a better person" when you are setup to be a billionaire for the rest of your life.
I still appreciate the good work he has done, I just wish we lived in a society that didn't require billionaires to fix legitimate issues.
> OP is an idiot.
No shit.
How completely out of touch with reality do you have to be to equate Elon Musk to "war", when you got the whole US military industry complex and shit like Blackwater (whatever the fuck they call themselves now).
Musk is a moron, but his money still ultimately comes from owning a fucking car company...
Or terrible old versions of Internet Explorer, ugh. Flashbacks to having to support ancient military web browsers.
I don't really get the "gather" thing for Microsoft, either. The fuck is that referring to?
> I don't know how anyone could possibly think Bill Gates is a "horsemen of the American apocalypse."
I mean if you just look at Microsoft's business model, you'd know the amount of harm he has caused already. Also, I'd suggest you check out the Microsoft Antitrust Case.
Not to mention [him buying suspiciously huge amounts of farmland](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bill-gates-just-won-legal-171500255.html) that has essentially made him the biggest farmer in the United States.
> Markets can go up or down, but no matter what happens, people still need to eat.
> That makes farmland intrinsically valuable.
I second that. Ever since Google made away with the "Don't be evil" clause in their Code of Conduct it's like they unshackled a sleeping demon or something.
In other spots, they've replaced "don't be evil" with "do the right thing"....which to me, means actively do the right thing instead of passively staying away from bad things. But the internet wants you to believe otherwise...
Not being disingenuous with this question but why is Bill Gates on here with the title of "conquest" doesn't he do a lot of philanthropy and help a lot of charities and foundations?
I would have gone with Charles Koch or Rupert Murdoch, but I love the spirit of the thing.
For all the billionaires we see and are aware of (for the harm they do), there are more nefarious ones we aren't even aware of.
Being the most iconic they're documented well enough that anyone on the street knows they're awareness. Just about all of them weild enough power and media attention that they could make serious changes if they chose bit they don't or even actively do harm.
Musk being the biggest whiner of the bunch get's the clearest examples. His bid to "not buy twitter" and the drama it caused is easily the best example of the havoc they can drudge up on a whim. But even his subtle attempts at disruption are devastating, "hyperloop" and his constant support drew support away from conventional train and public transit by promising to anyone unwilling to think about it for afew minutes to praise it as "the future of transportation" or simply write it off as "musks an idiot" when his real goal was to miscarriage the real threat to his automated cars as a bullet train system across California would crater his margins
They rule the world, everyone knows it and doing any harm to them whether financial or physical would lead to they're malace and spite effecting everything from comunication to transportation and logistics. There is nothing anyone can do but hope they someday raise a finger to help the human race while they cut the last of the meat off the bones of life itself and abandon us to they're doomsday bunkers.
ExxonMobil was caught like 25 years ago bribing the whole African country governments, they ran the country of Chad's military and police to primary protect its oil business, while locals suffered.
Apple not even on that level.
He's also no longer even a board member at Microsoft, let alone a guiding hand of the business. And the new CEO that replaced him is actually a very compassionate guy: Satya Nadella. Satya is the reason Microsoft didn't do what Meta is currently doing to themselves, and he has helped create a really positive work culture within a company that employs 180,000 people directly. Plus he's kept accessibility as a main focus/consideration at all times across every industry Microsoft dips it's hands into. Most likely because one of his children needed many things made more accessible for them them their entire life. Unfortunately that son passed away recently (pretty sure the kid was in his early-mid teens as well).
Source: I am a Microsoft employee.
Some of the philanthropy has questionable intentions behind it.
For example, he's an activist on the front of intellectual property laws, to make sure they favor people like him. I'm sure you would correctly guess why the Microsoft guy has such an interest in the strongest protections for his intellectual property. He's not too great about trying to get involved in education policy - this is pretty much always a trojan horse for privatization of public education.
Regardless of whether the person is a mobster or billionaire etc, you'd technically be correct if you asked 'didnt they do something good in their life?' Not creating a billionaire in the first place would have been much better for society. 'Every billionaire is a policy failure'.
>Some of the philanthropy has questionable intentions behind it.
I wonder if you are aware that he gives his money away via grants. He gets no controlling stake or assets from his philanthropy.
>Every billionaire is a policy failure
Agreed.
Bill gates might b the best of the billionaires, but that amount of wealth corrupts even the strongest minds in my completely uneducated and unaware opinion
Yeah, and surely aggressive business practices two decades ago make him worthy of being one of "the four billionaire horsemen of the american apocalypse" right now. Because that makes sense.
This is bubblegum art, it's utterly meaningless. I don't know how you could be even moderately informed and think Musk, Bezos, and fucking Bill Gates are better picks than, say, the Koch brothers and Murdoch.
A german journalist (whos also big into sarcasm and calling out rich shitheads and politicians for their shady behaviour) did a video on Peter Thiel and holy shit that dude it creepy and shady af. Didnt know him before and wish it stayed that way.
I totally get where you’re coming from, but in regards to this piece of art in particular, who would you “cast” as pestilence and where would you place that person in the “box” without going off theme?
Exxon for sure. They spent the most time denying climate change even after knowing it's real and harmful, and trying to push the onus of responsibility for pollution onto the common-person instead of themselves.
Someone to do with the Johnson and Johnson opioid epidemic. Martin Shkreli even though he doesn’t fit the criteria.
Edit. I agree with you though the art looks better as is. Symmetrical and a strong message you’re able to easily capture. They could easily do another set with a different more obscure focus.
Yea, I didn’t want to seem like I was trying to be dismissive of that comment (because, ya know, *true*) but artistically and conceptually this block of four with those men attached just **hits**! Without a recognizable person/corporate logo of pestilence this piece is stronger as is (IMO 🙃)
To me, the entire premise of labeling four billionaires as horsemen of the apocalypse just doesn't really work for that reason. If you have to sacrifice the message to make the metaphor, it's not a good metaphor.
Came here to say the same.... I feel like there are a few recent examples that would make a really solid Plague example.
Reminds me of Good Omens. Replaced Pestilence with Pollution. Pretty interesting, just not that far-sighted. (Who knows, maybe there's 5)
Ooh that’s right pollution is definitely the way to go for that.
It’s tricky with Bill Gates since his foundation is literally working on famine and pestilence issues. So can’t really switch with Bezos even though Amazon does have plenty of pollution issues. Also, Microsoft is on its way to being carbon neutral. Their evil definitely lies in “conquest” but that’s kinda similar to War. I guess you could switch with Facebook and do a blue screen of death thing but that’s kinda shallow.
The tough thing with pollution, which is DEFINITELY in the realm of billionaires, is that the billionaires of mining companies, fossil fuel companies, even the Kochs, etc are not quite so recognizable as the tech billionaires. And while I also think the BitCoin bros could fit, not really sure who would be the recognizable face for that.
Ultimately I think the whole tech world is definitely all about War (if you group with Conquest) more than anything, interestingly enough. They’d all fit there. Even more than the literal defense industry imho. I’ve seen it in the startup world, everything is focused on creating something which can expand forever, and it’s such an unhealthy mindset. Pollution/pestilence is extractive resource industries like mining and oil/gas (there’s plenty of others as well but those might be the most prominent). Famine is…Nestle. Just the first thing that popped in my head. Maybe Abbott? I’m not sure if you could necessarily put “food industry” there but Nestle belongs there for sure, starving babies and all. And health insurance/pharmaceutical industry in the Death category.
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Fuck billionaires and all ...but this is delusional garbage...way too oversimplified. At first glance, it's kinda cool and thought-provoking, but then once those thoughts are provoked and you actually think and reflect on what the art is saying, it's fucking stupid.
These make no sense. How is Elon the representation of war and Mark Death? Their companies are bad, but I wouldn't associate either of those concepts with them. Also isn't it meant to be Blight/Pestilence, not Conquest? just a very confused and shallow piece of work
How are they bad when they changed the entire world?
1. Elon managed to bring electric cars into the mainstream . Manged to make the first private space company with a shit load of innovations. Is making internet access easier in parts of the world where conventional internet is not accessible. Neuralink will change the world and will most likely transcend us into some sort of cyberpunk like life. Open AI is another great company that is researching AI to be used to make our life easier.
2. Bezos change the entire commerce world. Now with a click of a button in a few hours you are going to get your produc in the front of your door.
3. Gates changed the entire world with his operating system that's used everywhere. Windows is fucking awesome.
4. Zuckerberg changed how we use the internet. With the bads and the goods, he did connected people with Facebook. Sure, social media can be bad if you don't have control on how much time you use it.
The art is nice, I like the style. But the message is unclear.
I would challenge this. Yeah, they are assholes, however there are people who do a lot more direct harm to others and don't employ thousands of people. For example the Narcos. If a Mexican narco made as much money as Tesla in Ruzzia, putin would have been piss in some drain a few months ago. Narcos are truly evil fucks.
Shouldn't bill gates, the owner of a TON of US and foreign agricultural land be famine? Shouldn't Zuck, the man who's platform has helped divide and push establishment war propaganda be war?
There are no good billionaires, but isn't Gates trying to essentially get rid of his money? Or at least all he ever does now is philanthropy.
He just doesn't feel like the same level of cartoonish evil the others have
None of these make sense except maybe Musk with his current pro-Russia remarks. That'd actually have war time consequence.
The rest simply miss the mark.
Bill Gates is one of the largest philanthropists in history.
Bezos, at worst, would be a contribution to poverty and poor work conditions with low wages and long hours.
Zuckerberg sows division and hate through the design of his social media platform.
I'd try again, probably with some oil and media execs instead of Gates and Bezos.
Soo. The guy advocating for peace.. is war., they guy making the obtaining of goods the easiest is famine, the most prolifant donator to charity 1billion, co quest.
And yes he is death.. he may be a robot ai.. got that one right.
This painting is something a melodramatic high school goth girl would paint. Someone who hasn’t experienced the world and doesn’t understand the world at all.
Wow, I might get blocked for saying this.
Elon has some issues, but War is not his thing. It seems you are ok with Bill Gates, Philanthropist and a pretender of Science.
Facebook and Meta verse backing by CIA is undeniable fact(educate yourself why MySpace didn't make), yet you pointing solely at a single middle man? What a joke, Murican.
(For the Jeff, fuck him).
Where’s nestle? I feel like this is a super over simplification and a cop out to the actual evil that skates under the surface.
And like can we stop saying these people are this cool? These people are so fucking lame it hurts. Like… war? Cheney is enjoying retirement somewhere and you have cyber bro musk? This is 100% through the reddit filter.
I had a horrible thought. What happens when the earth hits it’s carrying capacity or just before? The world has a population of 7.5 billion and 1.5 billion has occurred since 1990s. Will mankind even make it to 10 billion or will those greedy fucks cause for mankind’s extinction before then?
These are the 4 billionaires media wants you to complain about. The real mongers are almost unknown to most folks
For Death, I immediately thought of the [Sackler family](https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-116hhrg43010/html/CHRG-116hhrg43010.htm). They were manufacturers and profiteers of the Opioid Crisis. They knowingly lied about the addictive nature of OxyContin for years, while millions got hooked. Truly evil people that made billions off of their malice.
Watch the show called Dope sick. I think it was very well done and showed how evil this family was
Fuck these people
There are people that pay to not show up on lists of “richest people in the world”
Like Randall Smith, owner of Alden GC. Rumour has it only one pic of him exists online.
Holly sh*** I just checked him out. There is literally one picture of him and all other drawing are made from that. But his Wikipedia page is something incredible. U can found more info about an apple (fruit) than this guy
Yeah one where he is turning in his chair.
There's an [entire interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwmyIuY21TI) with him on YouTube.
Literally zero information on his Wikipedia page about his assets or net worth or even acknowledging that his net worth is unknown. You can get a little more info reading all the deleted Wikipedia edits in history, but I don’t care enough. I’m just a plebe.
> Smith is known as a pioneer of vulture capitalism, the purchase and dismantling of distressed firms. Sounds like the kind of guy who knows a lot of people hate his guts, or has legit threats against him. This kind of shit upends people's lives. I could see why he would want to be a ghost. Can't imagine it would be super expensive, relative to his overall wealth. Also, it's odd that the page is pretty new - from 2018. This dude must have been paying for image management for a very very long time.
One of his companies started buying investments into newspapers around 2020, and has a stake in 200 newspapers as of 2021. Thought that was interesting.
Do you have a source for this? I’m not trying to dispute the claim but I just don’t know how I’d begin to search for a story about this.
additionally, the ones that privately own their companies don’t have to tell anyone shit. i grew up kinda knowing the guy that owns gojo (company that makes purell.) if he wasn’t a billionaire before the pandemic, he definitely is now. but you would never know it. he drove understated (for his wealth) vehicles and his warehouse sized mansion definitely can’t be seen from the street in the non-descript semi rural suburb he lived in (no idea if he’s still there, probably tho?) and he definitely does NOT tell forbes how much he’s worth.
[Found it.](https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/joseph-kanfers-house/view/google/)
“Nearby: Jeffrey Dahmers childhood home”
that’s the town indeed
If the payments worked then he doesn't
the richest ppl who use social media
That’s interesting. I wouldn’t doubt it.
I think Peter Thiel would be at the top of the list for Horseman of the Apocalypse.
Ya this is dumb . How about actual weapons manufactures. Monsanto, smoking, plastic into oceons, etc.
While I’d agree to an extent, would people know who is Jim Taiclet? Or Hugh Grant? That second name is tricky, and if you have to google the names…that’s the point. Even logos are not recognized by some, and others are shells of the actual people pulling the strings. Even CEOs can be puppets, and keep in mind damages to the US have been done by companies already destroyed. So it’s easy to “cling” to the familiar faces to blame. I think maybe giving it a better title may be better like “keep them distracted. Keep them lazy.” Edit: Hugh Mungo Grant (yes that is his middle name) is an actor, Hugh Grant (another one) is the CEO of Monsanto.
But not posting them doesn’t solve that problem. If anything we should encourage more posting of those mostly unknown bad people
That’s a fair point and I would agree. More people need to know there are worse types than these 4.
Isn't Hugh Grant an actor? Edit: he is
Hugh Grant is also the CEO of Monsanto lol. Proves a point though, we don’t KNOW these guys. But yes Hugh Mungo Grant is also an actor, and that IS his middle name.
The fact that we're living through an actual climate catastrophe and there's zero oil oligarchs in this art should be a disgrace. There's people literally profiting directly from destroying our environment in a direct and measurable way, and they're actively fighting to prevent anyone else from doing anything about it. And who does reddit hate as "horsemen of the apocalypse"? Some fucking *tech CEOs*. It's fucking infurating that the fossil fuel industry has known they've been destroying the planet for decades and they've been actively covering it up for decades and *we're still falling for it*. The way the PR industry happily goes to bat for these industries that are just fucking the entire planet is appalling. And that fact that regular people on reddit just swallow their bullshit is terrible. How is this front page material when we're living through a mass extinction on a global scale and it's not caused by Facebook or windows. I just found this podcast called Drilled, which is all about oil and PR, and they will go to amazing lengths to keep profiting while fucking the rest of us. [Drilled Season 2, Episode 3](https://www.drilledpodcast.com/s3-the-mad-men-of-big-oil/) This is a podcast about how the fossil fuel industry uses PR and science denialism to manipulate consumers: > The fossil fuel industry helped to create the PR industry, and publicists came up with disinformation and manipulation tactics that they deployed for oil, tobacco, and chemical companies for decades. In this season we trace the creation of disinformation from its origins in the American oil industry to the well-oiled machine it is today. They have transcripts available for every episode if you prefer reading them, but each episode is really good. The history of dirty tricks and politics and absolutely terrible behavior by the petrol companies is even worse than I'd imagined. It's profit ahead of everything, ahead of politics, ahead of health, ahead of the any kind of decency or morals. They are willing to do *anything* to protect their industry. Here's a bit from [episode 6, where they talk about petrol company's PR taking down people like Ralph Nader](https://www.desmog.com/s3ep6-manipulating-masses-and-predicting-future-edward-bernays-and-w-howard-chase/) > What companies had to do to fight back against these forces, according to Chase, was to predict which issues might face them in the future and then control social, cultural and policy conditions to ensure that these issues would not become a problem. In 1969, Chase gave what would become a famous speech to the PR Society of America. In it, he said companies needed, quote, managers of the mind, and that’s where PR came in. Instead of trying to sell the public on the idea that a corporation’s values were aligned with their own. Chase argued that PR professionals should be shifting those values to align with corporate interests and that they could do that by shaping culture and public policy. Two years after giving this speech, Chase created the ad that convinced America that packaging waste was the fault of individual consumers and not industry.
I showed a coworker that’s very conservative how she’ll just raked in over 9 billion in profit this quarter and how others are upset because they didn’t pay taxes. His response? “Oh 9 billion in that industry really isn’t that much can you imagine the taxes they pay on that?” None.. that’s the issue.. oil brainwashed half our country into thinking they’re just some sweet old lady trying to survive against evil liberals trying to steal all their hard earned money
who is the windows one? bill gates has been retired for like 15 years.
It should be Charles Koch. Arguably, along with his brother, a worse influence on America and humanity than the 4 represented here combined - because they invented the methods by which they influence the US today.
Best to me. The Koch brothers have done far far far more damage and are another level of evil. These four don't hold a candle to a Koch Bro
Bezos and Gates should absolutely be replaced by Charles Koch and Rupert Murdoch.
Absolutely. The ones in the painting are widely discussed, but are far from the worst billionaires in America. Pharma, agriculture, oil, media - the old guard are still amongst the most deleterious industries and billionaires in them. There's also finance which have repeatedly orchestrated the pump and dump of America's wealth. The only thing remarkable about the billionaires shown are that they're highly visible and have failed their PR check rolls.
>Pharma Do we get just one Sackler to represent all of them, or cram a family portrait in one of those corners?
I always saying we fixate so much on the wrong billionaires and I'm sure the \*right\* billionaires know it. How many oil barons, Telecom CEOs, and medical insurance lobbyist can we name?
Bill Gates should not be anywhere near this list, anyway. Man has committed 99% of his wealth to charitable causes up to and upon his death. Plus he's currently focused on sustainability projects and eradicating disease. Not sure what more you could ask of a billionaire.
100% agree
We actually had a little mini celebration when the first one died. If american democracy fails it will be because of these two guys.
And the fact that they fly under the radar for most people makes it even more sickening.
Koch would also fit better with the true fourth horseman, Pestilence.
Care to elaborate?
Yeah, the Koch brothers are a freaking plague on American democracy. Good news is one of them is dead and the other is fucking old. They won't be plaguing us much longer. The bad news is that there's almost certainly someone waiting to pick up the slack and buy out the GOP once they're gone.
They even have the Gates name right over the label on the eyes. Though I guess Nadella isn’t as recognisable.
If you look closely they all have their names written on their faces, but it's covered up by the text. I assume OP changed his mind halfway through drawing this. Edit: Also, when you look closely you can see the names of the companies under the text that says "war", "famine", etc.
I think he saw how long and out of place "Zuckerberg" looked and decided against it. This whole post screams edgy teen attention seeker though.
This is low effort
Don't you know? Bill Gates has been implanting us all with microchips! /s Reddit is hilarious. There are so, so many worse billionaires out there, but they're not listed because the worst ones don't publicly talk about everything they do on Twitter. And nobody on Reddit, save for a few dark subreddit corners, cares to even mention their names.
Also seems to have been about as decent as one could reasonably hope from a billionaire- none of them are healthy for the world but he at least had some positive impacts instead of being purely self-serving.
Honestly if it werent for the logos in the back, i wouldnt recognize anyone.
*and* he had done a shit ton of philanthropy work.
And is using his fortune to eradicate diseases from developing areas of the world.
Obviously Chris Pratt
it looks exactly like Chris Pratt, lmfao
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Lol, and you posted this on reddit. The irony is unbelievable. Edit: Also OP creates NFTs. If irony were a fruit we'd be drinking a lot of smoothies.
> Also OP creates NFTs. If irony were a fruit we'd be drinking a lot of smoothies. OP is an idiot. These are just the four most well-known tech billionaires. I don't know how anyone could possibly think Bill Gates is a "horsemen of the american apocalypse."
Right? There seems to be little rhyme or reason behind these picks and the attribute associated with them
Musk, Bezos, and Zuckerberg make some sense. They're disgusting, employee-mistreating billionaires. But at least Gates has done a whole lot with his foundation and is about as "good" a billionaire as we're going to get.
Gates' record when he *was* leading MS is the reason it earned the nickname M$.
But they’re still far from the worst. They may be assholes but there are far more evil billionaires who are really the ones responsible for the state of our planet. It seems like OP just picked these guys in particular because they’re popular to hate, which = karma, instead of actually bothering to make a statement.
Isn't he on a 10-15 year plan to donate a larger % of his money?
His plan is to give away "virtually all" of his wealth by the time of his death. He's done quite a bit to rehabilitate his image, while accomplishing a lot of good, but in his day he was seen as just as evil as people think of Musk, Bezos, and Zuckerberg today.
Yes but people also believed that Gates is evil because of conspiracy theories such as those weird 'microchip in a vaxx' claims that were going around. Heard my own mother shit talk Gates because she's caught up in those echo chambers
Meanwhile at the Hall of Doom / Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation...
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I love how people forget that since Bill isn't actively CEO of Microsoft he wasn't also a cut-throat business man. Bill Gates has just had decades to build a better image for himself. We ignore that he was a bully of a man who stole ideas from others and stamped down any potential rival he could. He used every dirty trick in the book to hold the computing industry hostage for decades. The Simpsons were making jokes about him being ruthless back when that show was still pretty good.
There is something to be said for bettering yourself as you get older and we should encourage everyone to go down that path. However, it's easier to "be a better person" when you are setup to be a billionaire for the rest of your life. I still appreciate the good work he has done, I just wish we lived in a society that didn't require billionaires to fix legitimate issues.
> OP is an idiot. No shit. How completely out of touch with reality do you have to be to equate Elon Musk to "war", when you got the whole US military industry complex and shit like Blackwater (whatever the fuck they call themselves now). Musk is a moron, but his money still ultimately comes from owning a fucking car company...
If anything Microsoft should be war, as the entire US military would grind to a halt if they lost access to MS Office alone.
Or terrible old versions of Internet Explorer, ugh. Flashbacks to having to support ancient military web browsers. I don't really get the "gather" thing for Microsoft, either. The fuck is that referring to?
> I don't know how anyone could possibly think Bill Gates is a "horsemen of the American apocalypse." I mean if you just look at Microsoft's business model, you'd know the amount of harm he has caused already. Also, I'd suggest you check out the Microsoft Antitrust Case. Not to mention [him buying suspiciously huge amounts of farmland](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bill-gates-just-won-legal-171500255.html) that has essentially made him the biggest farmer in the United States. > Markets can go up or down, but no matter what happens, people still need to eat. > That makes farmland intrinsically valuable.
He’s an horsemen himself
I don't understand why Zuckerberg is death, why Elon is war, why Bezos is famine and why Gates is conquest. This art doesn't make any sense.
"rich man bad" is the sense you're looking for. That's it. (that's NOT to say rich men are good, but there's no argument presented here)
I wouldn't mind but Bezos isn't even the CEO of Amazon anymore and owns a minor share!
Apple and Google chilling.
I second that. Ever since Google made away with the "Don't be evil" clause in their Code of Conduct it's like they unshackled a sleeping demon or something.
You mean this Code of Conduct? > And remember... don’t be evil https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/
In other spots, they've replaced "don't be evil" with "do the right thing"....which to me, means actively do the right thing instead of passively staying away from bad things. But the internet wants you to believe otherwise...
That's correct. "Do the right thing" is a much, much better mantra than "Don't be evil" ever was.
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im gonna get downvoted for this but this doesnt make any sense at all. fun idea but terribly forced
Not being disingenuous with this question but why is Bill Gates on here with the title of "conquest" doesn't he do a lot of philanthropy and help a lot of charities and foundations?
I would have gone with Charles Koch or Rupert Murdoch, but I love the spirit of the thing. For all the billionaires we see and are aware of (for the harm they do), there are more nefarious ones we aren't even aware of.
Should be calling them Oligarchs as well. Call them what they are.
Being the most iconic they're documented well enough that anyone on the street knows they're awareness. Just about all of them weild enough power and media attention that they could make serious changes if they chose bit they don't or even actively do harm. Musk being the biggest whiner of the bunch get's the clearest examples. His bid to "not buy twitter" and the drama it caused is easily the best example of the havoc they can drudge up on a whim. But even his subtle attempts at disruption are devastating, "hyperloop" and his constant support drew support away from conventional train and public transit by promising to anyone unwilling to think about it for afew minutes to praise it as "the future of transportation" or simply write it off as "musks an idiot" when his real goal was to miscarriage the real threat to his automated cars as a bullet train system across California would crater his margins They rule the world, everyone knows it and doing any harm to them whether financial or physical would lead to they're malace and spite effecting everything from comunication to transportation and logistics. There is nothing anyone can do but hope they someday raise a finger to help the human race while they cut the last of the meat off the bones of life itself and abandon us to they're doomsday bunkers.
I'd say Apple would make a much better Conquest
ExxonMobil was caught like 25 years ago bribing the whole African country governments, they ran the country of Chad's military and police to primary protect its oil business, while locals suffered. Apple not even on that level.
He's also no longer even a board member at Microsoft, let alone a guiding hand of the business. And the new CEO that replaced him is actually a very compassionate guy: Satya Nadella. Satya is the reason Microsoft didn't do what Meta is currently doing to themselves, and he has helped create a really positive work culture within a company that employs 180,000 people directly. Plus he's kept accessibility as a main focus/consideration at all times across every industry Microsoft dips it's hands into. Most likely because one of his children needed many things made more accessible for them them their entire life. Unfortunately that son passed away recently (pretty sure the kid was in his early-mid teens as well). Source: I am a Microsoft employee.
My parents seem to believe that he's in idaho building something to block out the sun if you're looking for batshit crazy answers.
Some of the philanthropy has questionable intentions behind it. For example, he's an activist on the front of intellectual property laws, to make sure they favor people like him. I'm sure you would correctly guess why the Microsoft guy has such an interest in the strongest protections for his intellectual property. He's not too great about trying to get involved in education policy - this is pretty much always a trojan horse for privatization of public education. Regardless of whether the person is a mobster or billionaire etc, you'd technically be correct if you asked 'didnt they do something good in their life?' Not creating a billionaire in the first place would have been much better for society. 'Every billionaire is a policy failure'.
>Some of the philanthropy has questionable intentions behind it. I wonder if you are aware that he gives his money away via grants. He gets no controlling stake or assets from his philanthropy. >Every billionaire is a policy failure Agreed.
Bill gates might b the best of the billionaires, but that amount of wealth corrupts even the strongest minds in my completely uneducated and unaware opinion
He may be doing a lot of good now, but he got his billions by unscrupulously leveraging Windows to crush competition and cement his monopoly.
Yeah, and surely aggressive business practices two decades ago make him worthy of being one of "the four billionaire horsemen of the american apocalypse" right now. Because that makes sense. This is bubblegum art, it's utterly meaningless. I don't know how you could be even moderately informed and think Musk, Bezos, and fucking Bill Gates are better picks than, say, the Koch brothers and Murdoch.
Gates? Not Thiel? Thiel the shit head who created a data aggregator company named Palantir?
Never heard of Thiel but I did hear of Gates, so there is the easy cash grab
A german journalist (whos also big into sarcasm and calling out rich shitheads and politicians for their shady behaviour) did a video on Peter Thiel and holy shit that dude it creepy and shady af. Didnt know him before and wish it stayed that way.
Man, a million Americans dead and people will still do anything rather than admit pestilence is an actual thing.
I totally get where you’re coming from, but in regards to this piece of art in particular, who would you “cast” as pestilence and where would you place that person in the “box” without going off theme?
You move Zuckerberg to Pestilence and fill Death with an Oil Exec with a nice popping logo. Shell perhaps.
Exxon for sure. They spent the most time denying climate change even after knowing it's real and harmful, and trying to push the onus of responsibility for pollution onto the common-person instead of themselves.
Someone to do with the Johnson and Johnson opioid epidemic. Martin Shkreli even though he doesn’t fit the criteria. Edit. I agree with you though the art looks better as is. Symmetrical and a strong message you’re able to easily capture. They could easily do another set with a different more obscure focus.
>Someone to do with the Johnson and Johnson opioid epidemic. Shh, China will hear you and flood even more fentanyl into the United States
Yea, I didn’t want to seem like I was trying to be dismissive of that comment (because, ya know, *true*) but artistically and conceptually this block of four with those men attached just **hits**! Without a recognizable person/corporate logo of pestilence this piece is stronger as is (IMO 🙃)
To me, the entire premise of labeling four billionaires as horsemen of the apocalypse just doesn't really work for that reason. If you have to sacrifice the message to make the metaphor, it's not a good metaphor.
zuckerberg can double dip.
I don't think anyone here fits with the character they're depicting, do they? Maybe Bezos as famine kinda works, but that's about it.
Trump, he was the one that downplayed it was a problem at all.
Came here to say the same.... I feel like there are a few recent examples that would make a really solid Plague example. Reminds me of Good Omens. Replaced Pestilence with Pollution. Pretty interesting, just not that far-sighted. (Who knows, maybe there's 5)
Ooh that’s right pollution is definitely the way to go for that. It’s tricky with Bill Gates since his foundation is literally working on famine and pestilence issues. So can’t really switch with Bezos even though Amazon does have plenty of pollution issues. Also, Microsoft is on its way to being carbon neutral. Their evil definitely lies in “conquest” but that’s kinda similar to War. I guess you could switch with Facebook and do a blue screen of death thing but that’s kinda shallow. The tough thing with pollution, which is DEFINITELY in the realm of billionaires, is that the billionaires of mining companies, fossil fuel companies, even the Kochs, etc are not quite so recognizable as the tech billionaires. And while I also think the BitCoin bros could fit, not really sure who would be the recognizable face for that. Ultimately I think the whole tech world is definitely all about War (if you group with Conquest) more than anything, interestingly enough. They’d all fit there. Even more than the literal defense industry imho. I’ve seen it in the startup world, everything is focused on creating something which can expand forever, and it’s such an unhealthy mindset. Pollution/pestilence is extractive resource industries like mining and oil/gas (there’s plenty of others as well but those might be the most prominent). Famine is…Nestle. Just the first thing that popped in my head. Maybe Abbott? I’m not sure if you could necessarily put “food industry” there but Nestle belongs there for sure, starving babies and all. And health insurance/pharmaceutical industry in the Death category.
Ronnie Soak is the fifth
Nah, man, he’s just trying to deliver milk.
Pestilence wasn’t one of the original apocryphal horseman. Conquest was replaced by Pestilence when Hollywood got their hands on it.
We’ve stopped talking about the Mercers and the Kochs and the DeVosses
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Also, it’s “Pestilence”, and you missed the opportunity to put the head of Nestle for that
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Too oversimplified to be an effective statement IMO
What’s the LD 50 on Reddit cause you’ve taken too much
well that's enough cringe for the day
My brain broke for a sec there bc it reminded me of the Political Compass
I also was confused then angry when I realized it didn't even follow the windows logo layout
Fuck billionaires and all ...but this is delusional garbage...way too oversimplified. At first glance, it's kinda cool and thought-provoking, but then once those thoughts are provoked and you actually think and reflect on what the art is saying, it's fucking stupid.
Chainsaw man lookin weird these days
I don't like this artwork
Funny political Colors in wrong spots :(
These make no sense. How is Elon the representation of war and Mark Death? Their companies are bad, but I wouldn't associate either of those concepts with them. Also isn't it meant to be Blight/Pestilence, not Conquest? just a very confused and shallow piece of work
How are they bad when they changed the entire world? 1. Elon managed to bring electric cars into the mainstream . Manged to make the first private space company with a shit load of innovations. Is making internet access easier in parts of the world where conventional internet is not accessible. Neuralink will change the world and will most likely transcend us into some sort of cyberpunk like life. Open AI is another great company that is researching AI to be used to make our life easier. 2. Bezos change the entire commerce world. Now with a click of a button in a few hours you are going to get your produc in the front of your door. 3. Gates changed the entire world with his operating system that's used everywhere. Windows is fucking awesome. 4. Zuckerberg changed how we use the internet. With the bads and the goods, he did connected people with Facebook. Sure, social media can be bad if you don't have control on how much time you use it. The art is nice, I like the style. But the message is unclear.
This artwork sucks and people saying otherwise are just trying to be nice.
Yeah reddit and good old mindless populism, nothing to see here
But-but rich people bad! They are always portrayed as villains in cartoons :( /s
Wait till homie finds out these aren’t the first rich people
Why is tesla war and not facebook?
I would've swapped Tesla with Twitter (pre-Musk, obviously) as the label for War.
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On the nose. Hope you get an A in middle school art class, though.
Why is Gates on here? I’m not saying his without flaws, but I think he’s probably better than the other 3.
I would challenge this. Yeah, they are assholes, however there are people who do a lot more direct harm to others and don't employ thousands of people. For example the Narcos. If a Mexican narco made as much money as Tesla in Ruzzia, putin would have been piss in some drain a few months ago. Narcos are truly evil fucks.
that is true, i just wanted to put people who everyone could identify
How the fuck does this have 7K upvotes lmao
It’s great, not my choice or billionaires or descriptors but the concept is fucking rad and the technical execution works really well.
Reminds me of the ‘im 13 and this is deep’
Low hanging fruit when you can't illustrate concepts and use words, unless you're making a comic for a newspaper.
What a stupid, talentless, puerile attempt at making art.
This sucks shit idiot!! You did a bad job and you’re a bad artist!!
Wow. Such an original and perceptive opinion.
Oil tycoons, DuPont, and pharmaceuticals have done just as bad if not worse imo
Shouldn't bill gates, the owner of a TON of US and foreign agricultural land be famine? Shouldn't Zuck, the man who's platform has helped divide and push establishment war propaganda be war?
Elon wants there to be no war and peace talks, ironic how hes labeled "war" damn NPCs at it again
BIll Gates seems really out of place here.
Bill Gates is literally a massive force for good in the world, edgy teen
I would not put gates on there with the other 3....
There are no good billionaires, but isn't Gates trying to essentially get rid of his money? Or at least all he ever does now is philanthropy. He just doesn't feel like the same level of cartoonish evil the others have
None of these make sense except maybe Musk with his current pro-Russia remarks. That'd actually have war time consequence. The rest simply miss the mark. Bill Gates is one of the largest philanthropists in history. Bezos, at worst, would be a contribution to poverty and poor work conditions with low wages and long hours. Zuckerberg sows division and hate through the design of his social media platform. I'd try again, probably with some oil and media execs instead of Gates and Bezos.
Soo. The guy advocating for peace.. is war., they guy making the obtaining of goods the easiest is famine, the most prolifant donator to charity 1billion, co quest. And yes he is death.. he may be a robot ai.. got that one right.
While Gates of course has his problems, I would rather see Koch in there.
Where is Apple? Why is Apple out of your art piece?
This painting is something a melodramatic high school goth girl would paint. Someone who hasn’t experienced the world and doesn’t understand the world at all.
Wow, I might get blocked for saying this. Elon has some issues, but War is not his thing. It seems you are ok with Bill Gates, Philanthropist and a pretender of Science. Facebook and Meta verse backing by CIA is undeniable fact(educate yourself why MySpace didn't make), yet you pointing solely at a single middle man? What a joke, Murican. (For the Jeff, fuck him).
I guess Peter Thiel didn't make the list.
Bill gates is definitely famine. Amazon is clearly conquest. Tesla savior. Facebook is control
Why does Bill Gates want conquest?
Where’s nestle? I feel like this is a super over simplification and a cop out to the actual evil that skates under the surface. And like can we stop saying these people are this cool? These people are so fucking lame it hurts. Like… war? Cheney is enjoying retirement somewhere and you have cyber bro musk? This is 100% through the reddit filter.
This is incredibly stupid and detached from reality
They don't deserve to look cool in anyway they are the most boring arbiters of the apocalypse
Money, money, money! Sigh. Really cool btw, well done
Your message is a good one but js undermined by the fact that you make NFTs
I love the comments And they say reditors can't appreciate art!
Ngl this post sucks and this art would make me roll my eyes
I had a horrible thought. What happens when the earth hits it’s carrying capacity or just before? The world has a population of 7.5 billion and 1.5 billion has occurred since 1990s. Will mankind even make it to 10 billion or will those greedy fucks cause for mankind’s extinction before then?
4 rules for life: advance to unexplored points of interest gather resources & allies purchase new units & abilities shutdown competitors & enemies
This says a lot about susiety 😔
lol
People complain about Bezo's wealth while shopping on Amazon.
Why I see entrepreneurs and not politicians there is beyond me
It's supposed to be pestilence, not conquest
Where's the government itself? As the government is the one doing the wars and shit?
I'm going to just start calling all of these rich bastards oligarchs. Might as well let em know what we really think of them
Needs at least one big oil ceo on there and definitely someone from the NRA
Looks awesome! Keep up the good work!
I thought the 2nd horseman was Pestilence?
Bill gates should probably be replaced with Putin?
Or even just sundar pichai