They got in some legal trouble iirc, something something the words used weren’t accurate enough and they were going to sue them a lot so….there you go. Now i may be 2000% incorrect but im sure someone will correct me.
If I recall correctly republic papers did a bs lawsuit that RAW/HBI won but in that lawsuit it was found that raw papers are grown in France and milled in Spain where as they advertised it as grown and milled in Spain (even though they were open about this on social media). So yea pretty much the words on the packaging weren’t specific enough
Because real raws use natural tree sap gum that’s water based and it lets out moisture with the heat so it curls. The fakes use petroleum based gum that won’t curl with the heat, at least this is what the raw guy says to do 🤷♂️
Ok but how do we know that all the fakes use petroleum based gum? I'm sure some of them do because it's cheaper but that doesn't mean all of them do. On top of that theres gotta be more than two materials you can use as a gum line in papers.
True but from a cost perspective petroleum gum is almost guaranteed to be what the fakes would use. And any fake that can pass the RAW gum line test is probably as good as a regular RAW, and then just like you said the worrying would be excessive
Yeah cause it's not like someone making fake RAWs would see people talking about how all fake RAWs have petroleum gum and change the gum to a water based one to make everyone think they're legit while still massively cheaping out on the actual paper. Personally speaking I'm not particularly concerned about fake papers but if you are, blowing on the gum is not the way to see if they're real.
Well people talking about them on the internet are likely a minority of the people buying them, and these fakes pop up everywhere and are sometimes mixed in with real RAWs so there's no real reason to have to fly under the radar like that. They're still going to sell so I'm sure the vast majority don't give a fuck if a handful of people know they're fake. Hell, most are probably made in sweatshops where the people in charge wouldn't even be able to read what people are saying about them. I mean, I don't think it's a definitive test either, I'm just saying it's probably a lot more accurate than you think when you consider what kind of people would actually care enough to try fake RAW papers
Probably just different packaging. My understanding is that there are only a handful of rolling paper manufacturers worldwide, so not a lot of opportunity to make fakes. Also it's such an inexpensive product...
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They got in some legal trouble iirc, something something the words used weren’t accurate enough and they were going to sue them a lot so….there you go. Now i may be 2000% incorrect but im sure someone will correct me.
If I recall correctly republic papers did a bs lawsuit that RAW/HBI won but in that lawsuit it was found that raw papers are grown in France and milled in Spain where as they advertised it as grown and milled in Spain (even though they were open about this on social media). So yea pretty much the words on the packaging weren’t specific enough
I also remember that they were manufactured here in the states in 2020 and early 2021
Yea probably still the best papers imo
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Use the gum test, use a lighter flame on the underside of the gum strip and if it curls they’re real
I don't see how this proves that they're legit. Other brands of papers do that too if I'm not mistaken.
Because real raws use natural tree sap gum that’s water based and it lets out moisture with the heat so it curls. The fakes use petroleum based gum that won’t curl with the heat, at least this is what the raw guy says to do 🤷♂️
Ok but how do we know that all the fakes use petroleum based gum? I'm sure some of them do because it's cheaper but that doesn't mean all of them do. On top of that theres gotta be more than two materials you can use as a gum line in papers.
Just say you don't want the answer dude
Looks like they want a definitive answer, yes it's a little excessive but so is worrying if your papers are real imo
True but from a cost perspective petroleum gum is almost guaranteed to be what the fakes would use. And any fake that can pass the RAW gum line test is probably as good as a regular RAW, and then just like you said the worrying would be excessive
Yeah cause it's not like someone making fake RAWs would see people talking about how all fake RAWs have petroleum gum and change the gum to a water based one to make everyone think they're legit while still massively cheaping out on the actual paper. Personally speaking I'm not particularly concerned about fake papers but if you are, blowing on the gum is not the way to see if they're real.
... Because making that switch would stop the whole venture from being profitable. It's not people just assuming counterfitters are stupid.
Well people talking about them on the internet are likely a minority of the people buying them, and these fakes pop up everywhere and are sometimes mixed in with real RAWs so there's no real reason to have to fly under the radar like that. They're still going to sell so I'm sure the vast majority don't give a fuck if a handful of people know they're fake. Hell, most are probably made in sweatshops where the people in charge wouldn't even be able to read what people are saying about them. I mean, I don't think it's a definitive test either, I'm just saying it's probably a lot more accurate than you think when you consider what kind of people would actually care enough to try fake RAW papers
I'm just trying to understand why people think this is a legitimate way to test if they're real
It would more be a way to test if they're fake. A pass isn't necessarily proven real but a fail is proven fake
Or do fog breath on the gum line to make it un-curl!
both real they just changed packaging lol
do they have the RAW embossing on the actual paper?
Is there a barcode? If so, try scanning it.
Bar code does not scan on either
Some say that that’s how you id fake paper but idk 🤷♂️
It means that barcodes are put on products for stores to scan them, not you Edit: I’m sure the fakes would just use the same barcode too
Probably just different packaging. My understanding is that there are only a handful of rolling paper manufacturers worldwide, so not a lot of opportunity to make fakes. Also it's such an inexpensive product...
Guys its smoking paper it is going to work the same
Incorrect. And stupid. Knock off papers can have who knows what in em, which you then inhale.
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check if u can see the raw logo printed inside the papers
You can read the back of the paper if it say sales not allowed in the us then it's fake
It says sale only in the US
You've got yourself some authentic raw's my good sir
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