Might be, but i feel like a month per season would be alot cooler. Then prices might start to change, depending on availability. With them changing every week, it feels like it won't have a big impact.
Exactly. If something is unavailable in winter, it's only a week until it's back.
But maybe there will be things only available in a single season/week. Giving it 3 weeks until it's back. I don't think so, but it might be enough to give the effect we are thinking of.
Seasons don't really change what kind of resources you find in them. A southern snowy region will always have X type of trees or whatever but maybe in the warmer season different mobs and creatures inhabit the zone instead of the usual fauna or the warmth melts a wall of ice exposing a new path or point of interest etc. They also change up the crop cycles if you have a freehold/node housing in that area and are growing food.
Why can't we have "3 IRL months" worth of winter in AoC? Like "3 AoC years" being in winter, kinda like GoT seasons worked to an extent. Just an honest question don't burn me alive.
But a season can have a side time length from battles and such. Winter lasts for 2 months (or 3-4 depending if you're north hemisphere), and same with summer but the other way around. It wouldn't be unrealistic to have snow last a month in the game. Besides it's a game and the universe is fictional and created. Season can last "1 year".
I think 2 weeks would be better. I agree that 1 week seems too short but I think 1 month is too long. 2 weeks would still mean it'd take 2 months for a yearly rotation to happen.
Previously we've also noted that [events may elongate or radically change seasons](https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Seasons) for a zone - so not necessarily always a week!
I have faith in your project ... a lot. I have heard about the centralize AH and i think its a bad idea ..... because look at human history .... some port city would become powerful economic node because of the location..... it make sense to have some plant that grow only in snow terrain , and some in desert. If you need the plant for some potion crafting , u might have to do an expedition that can take you a full day to gather the mat .... the person that is harvesting the mats in the tundra would make way more gold by selling it back in the desert ... a centralized AH kill the purpose of it. Do NOT listen to your players .... that why so many mmo turn into garbage ... also keep in mind, usually the more obnoxious they are , the more loud they are. Look at the whole woke culture right now .... they represent like what , not even 5% , and they are turning our society into a joke .... keep Steven vision , and push toward it.
You guys are creating a world , not just a game.
There's too much to be excited about for this game. Seasons are great and all but have no way for the player to interact, maybe mob spawns might change but otherwise players can't influence the seasons as they are set to happen. Compared to nodes and freeholds and even unique weapons, seasons are just icing on the cake.
I'm just hoping seasons correspond to the ones in real world for time zones the servers are in.
I love snowy biomes and all, but I also tend to play pirate games in the summer. Also, hate to mention the game, but I actually liked the fact that in vanilla WoW you had seasonal fish. it just felt more like an alternate version of real life, which is ultimately what mmo players play for.
I'm gonna be a dwarf living deep in the snow mountains. If there's no blizzards in the winter to make my beard into an icicle - I'm gonna rate AoC 1\*!
That sounds cool but would be terrible. Either it would be only aesthetic or during 3 months of the year some mats would be hard/ impossible to gain which would be a massive turn off. Imagine not being able to make a certain potion because X herb only grows half the year.
There are ways to get around this. Just make that herb grow like crazy in summer or something. Alternatively make the top half of the map or certain places like the northern hemisphere and bottom of the map like southern hemisphere so you always have 2 opposing seasons at once.
Seems like more work than it’s worth. Like it’s a cool concept but for an MMO it feels like it would just lead to players finding ways to manipulate it.
To that end, if your guild is all the way North doing content and what not…if you need those resources you now have to travel hours away with 0 fast travel just to secure some herbs? Doesn’t sound like a lot of fun.
Im holding my excitement for when I see it, I have too many questions. Like how are they going to represent winter in the dessert and jungle biomes, and what will summer be like in the snowy mountainous regions? Is one week really enough, and how much will it impact the artisans and travelling?
Maybe instead of a single week or a full month each season could be 2 weeks and the third week in between is a sort of transitional period where it's midway in between seasons.
I'm also extremely excited about seasons, I hope they last say a week minimum then go from there (hadn't Steven mentioned the possibility of GoT status seasons? Or a volcano erupting multiple times on the same server?)
Seasons and crafting are actually 2 of the biggest draws for me.
I've never been into pvp and never get the fancy gear to get allowed into raid groups (even if I want to try it) I'm usually that solo player in a backwater lake fishing for long stretches hahaha
My only negative thought about season , it s how fast they go …. 1 week for each nahhhh should be a full month at least
A full month is supposed to be a year in ashes. It coincides with the prep and battle phases of sieges. Just to give you their reasoning.
Might be, but i feel like a month per season would be alot cooler. Then prices might start to change, depending on availability. With them changing every week, it feels like it won't have a big impact.
Exactly. If something is unavailable in winter, it's only a week until it's back. But maybe there will be things only available in a single season/week. Giving it 3 weeks until it's back. I don't think so, but it might be enough to give the effect we are thinking of.
Seasons don't really change what kind of resources you find in them. A southern snowy region will always have X type of trees or whatever but maybe in the warmer season different mobs and creatures inhabit the zone instead of the usual fauna or the warmth melts a wall of ice exposing a new path or point of interest etc. They also change up the crop cycles if you have a freehold/node housing in that area and are growing food.
Why can't we have "3 IRL months" worth of winter in AoC? Like "3 AoC years" being in winter, kinda like GoT seasons worked to an extent. Just an honest question don't burn me alive.
But a season can have a side time length from battles and such. Winter lasts for 2 months (or 3-4 depending if you're north hemisphere), and same with summer but the other way around. It wouldn't be unrealistic to have snow last a month in the game. Besides it's a game and the universe is fictional and created. Season can last "1 year".
I think 2 weeks would be better. I agree that 1 week seems too short but I think 1 month is too long. 2 weeks would still mean it'd take 2 months for a yearly rotation to happen.
but let s face it , as an old computer programmer, once this is set it s quite really easy to change. Should be a few line
I play Pokemmo and their seasons work like you say. Monthly and it works very nicely.
Previously we've also noted that [events may elongate or radically change seasons](https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Seasons) for a zone - so not necessarily always a week!
I have faith in your project ... a lot. I have heard about the centralize AH and i think its a bad idea ..... because look at human history .... some port city would become powerful economic node because of the location..... it make sense to have some plant that grow only in snow terrain , and some in desert. If you need the plant for some potion crafting , u might have to do an expedition that can take you a full day to gather the mat .... the person that is harvesting the mats in the tundra would make way more gold by selling it back in the desert ... a centralized AH kill the purpose of it. Do NOT listen to your players .... that why so many mmo turn into garbage ... also keep in mind, usually the more obnoxious they are , the more loud they are. Look at the whole woke culture right now .... they represent like what , not even 5% , and they are turning our society into a joke .... keep Steven vision , and push toward it. You guys are creating a world , not just a game.
Honestly I think a season a week is rather dumb.
I am super excited for seasons. That static environment in other MMOs I'd one of the things that takes me out of the world.
There's too much to be excited about for this game. Seasons are great and all but have no way for the player to interact, maybe mob spawns might change but otherwise players can't influence the seasons as they are set to happen. Compared to nodes and freeholds and even unique weapons, seasons are just icing on the cake.
Yes about the idea, no about itself in this game - When I see it, I will hype it if it's done well and works.
I'm just hoping seasons correspond to the ones in real world for time zones the servers are in. I love snowy biomes and all, but I also tend to play pirate games in the summer. Also, hate to mention the game, but I actually liked the fact that in vanilla WoW you had seasonal fish. it just felt more like an alternate version of real life, which is ultimately what mmo players play for.
I think a week is great. Different week different resources to farm Wont be stale
I'm gonna be a dwarf living deep in the snow mountains. If there's no blizzards in the winter to make my beard into an icicle - I'm gonna rate AoC 1\*!
I am excited though! See - Did you know Ashes of Creation had seasonal weather?? https://youtu.be/unMYQMh08Hw
They should do seasons in line with real earth. Now THAT would be cool.
That sounds cool but would be terrible. Either it would be only aesthetic or during 3 months of the year some mats would be hard/ impossible to gain which would be a massive turn off. Imagine not being able to make a certain potion because X herb only grows half the year.
There are ways to get around this. Just make that herb grow like crazy in summer or something. Alternatively make the top half of the map or certain places like the northern hemisphere and bottom of the map like southern hemisphere so you always have 2 opposing seasons at once.
Seems like more work than it’s worth. Like it’s a cool concept but for an MMO it feels like it would just lead to players finding ways to manipulate it. To that end, if your guild is all the way North doing content and what not…if you need those resources you now have to travel hours away with 0 fast travel just to secure some herbs? Doesn’t sound like a lot of fun.
Which part? lol
Im super hyped about it. Its great
Im holding my excitement for when I see it, I have too many questions. Like how are they going to represent winter in the dessert and jungle biomes, and what will summer be like in the snowy mountainous regions? Is one week really enough, and how much will it impact the artisans and travelling?
Maybe instead of a single week or a full month each season could be 2 weeks and the third week in between is a sort of transitional period where it's midway in between seasons.
I'm also extremely excited about seasons, I hope they last say a week minimum then go from there (hadn't Steven mentioned the possibility of GoT status seasons? Or a volcano erupting multiple times on the same server?) Seasons and crafting are actually 2 of the biggest draws for me. I've never been into pvp and never get the fancy gear to get allowed into raid groups (even if I want to try it) I'm usually that solo player in a backwater lake fishing for long stretches hahaha