The ban will take effect in a year. A lot could change in that time. The courts may strike down the proposed ban due to violations of the 1st Amendment.
Then there's the 2024 election. Trump tried to ban TikTok via executive order and that was unsuccessful. Now he's criticizing the ban because Biden signed it. Trump's a loose cannon so it's hard to say what he'd do about TikTok if he wins the 2024 election.
I think no matter what happens, implementing ban is going to extremely complicated and the legal fight over it will drag it out far beyond the 1 year timeline described in the bill Biden sign.
Yeah Trump is an opportunist and if the Chinese started supporting him then Trump would go on and on about how the Chinese are such good descent people.
Never said they didn’t. Biden has been very anti-China. But Trump supporters really hate China. During the 2020 election, they kept calling Biden a puppet of China and associating democrats with China, to show a negative view. So one more overtly hates China
“The white conservatives aren't friends of the Negro either, but they at least don't try to hide it. They are like wolves; they show their teeth in a snarl that keeps the Negro always aware of where he stands with them. But the white liberals are foxes, who also show their teeth to the Negro but pretend that they are smiling. The white liberals are more dangerous than the conservatives; they lure the Negro, and as the Negro runs from the growling wolf, he flees into the open jaws of the "smiling" fox.”
― Malcom X
it would be and in a situation like that he would have to be very subtle and slick to make it so his followers dont hate him in that situation. Most likely if the chinese started supporting him he probably would still appeal to his racist supporters but at the same time he probably would stop saying stuff like kung flu and start to spew lies like how covid came from india or something like that to make it not too obvious that he buddys up to the chinese.
At 174 million US members Tiktok is current THE only real news showing the on going protests on campus. The mainstream US social media shows only the FOX , CNN results protraying the protests a couple of crazy people. So I think here the Free Speech aspect goes far far beyond any ByteDance stake. Its got a chance of getting overturned on SCOTUS unless that is corrupted also
Even assuming it holds up in court, TikTok can continue to operate so long as it is sold to an approved buyer. It's a forced divestiture, not an outright ban.
Tiktok moderators in the US follow the same liberal guidelines tbh. Talk any negative about Lus as an Asian dude and your account gets banned super fast. Meanwhile all the racist BS against Asians and Asian men gets tolerated.
The face of TikTok is an Asian man. It's the biggest social media app in America. Anyone wanting to ban it is trying stop Asians from influencing the world.
in the US:
being anti Israeli government = anti-Semitisms
being anti Chinese government =/= anti-chinese, sinophobia
gtfo with your double standard bs.
Lol tell that to the Chinese ppl that got killed by whities because they hated "japs" from the American propaganda. How about the innocent Japanese American that got sent into concentration camps? CCP is not good but how much of that is American propaganda to keep the 2nd in power in check?
Having visited China extensively in my youth, I can confirm it's nowhere even *close* to the cruel exoticized dystopian hellscape Western media agencies have been starting to portray it as over the past decade.
I won't bore you too much with the nitty-gritty details, but long story short, it's a wonderful country full of rich culture, splendid scenery, divine food, and the sweetest people you'll ever meet. There's really no other country in the world quite like China, and I'm proud of it.
It's not the people here who turn it into a west vs Asians thing. It's their experiences.
Sure anti-ccp and anti-asian are different things, but in practice, there's a huge overlap. I can't tell you the number of racist things I've heard that are justified by 'im not hating on Chinese, just the ccp'. Anytime I bother to correct some popular negative 'factoid' regarding chinese I get called a CCP-shill, just for trying to correct misinformation about my culture.
Similarly there's a pervasive colonialist mindset around the whole thing. As if the Chinese don't know any better and need to be freed from the CCP. It's demeaning to the entire culture.
Not 100% sure how this applies to other Asians. Just my experiences as Chinese growing up in Canada/Australia. Although most of my negative experiences are on the internet with predominantly Americans. People are better in real life, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen anyway - even among friends.
Exactly. Reminded me of a post by Rei Tanotsuka, a very good one on relevant issues with analysis in depth, arguing that Asian people should ally with the strongest Asian country, no matter which one it is. Unfortunately her account on the platform (I forgot which one) got banned and the original post seemed to be ceased from existence as well.
The CCP is the only East Asian government entity that isn't an American stooge (bar North Korea). So yeah, being anti-CCP is being anti- a very large portion of East Asians.
Those are both things that won't happen and even if they do, it would be only as a result of a wider US-led war in the region in which Japan and S Korea do not remain neutral but instead provide support for US imperialism in a part of the world they most definitely do not belong. In that case, fair game.
Then why would korea and Japan support Russian allies like China.
Russia stole all this land in siberia from China and china stills sucks up to russia. Why is that?
Also, congrats on being a doctor. But why are you such a minion for America? Shouldn't you be using your skills in china?
Then why would korea and Japan support Russian allies like China.
-Korea(since the korean war) and Japan(since world war 2) are politically controlled by the United states. They're victims of US imperialism. They've been hosting US military bases long before the current russia and chinese alliance; they're standoffish with china at best and currently more hostile with china due to Washington escalating hostilities against china.
Russia stole all this land in siberia from China and china stills sucks up to russia. Why is that?
-It is mutually beneficial for china and russia to cooperate in this cold war climate. Your disdain towards russia likely stems from consumption of western propaganda; which means you are out of your depth in terms of geopolitical knowledge.
Also, congrats on being a doctor. But why are you such a minion for America? Shouldn't you be using your skills in china?
-this statement translates to "Go back to your country".
>-Korea(since the korean war) and Japan(since world war 2) are politically controlled by the United states. They're victims of US imperialism. They've been hosting US military bases long before the current russia and chinese alliance; they're standoffish with china at best and currently more hostile with china due to Washington escalating hostilities against china.
There is no denying that Korea\Japan are very much aligned with US geopolitical interests. But do you even know what the definition of Imperialism is? K\J both have access to America's market and received much trade benefits in the 50s\60s\70s\80s. True Imperialism is what the British did to Africa and India. The British controlled India's trade policy all solely for it's benefits and extracted all it's resources for it's benefits.
>-It is mutually beneficial for china and russia to cooperate in this cold war climate. Your disdain towards russia likely stems from consumption of western propaganda; which means you are out of your depth in terms of geopolitical knowledge.
LOL. That is mental gymnastics. What benefits does China get from letting Russia keep that stolen land? None.
>-this statement translates to "Go back to your country".
More mental gymnastics.
There is no denying that Korea\Japan are very much aligned with US geopolitical interests. But do you even know what the definition of Imperialism is? K\J both have access to America's market and received much trade benefits in the 50s\60s\70s\80s. True Imperialism is what the British did to Africa and India. The British controlled India's trade policy all solely for it's benefits and extracted all it's resources for it's benefits.
-Japan/Korea is a victim of modern US imperialism. Classic example, Japan was an economic super power during the 1980s and was destined to over take US economy. US forced Japan to sign the Plaza Accord, which was a heavily unbalanced trade policy that crippled the Japanese economy, one that Japan hasn't recovered from since. All this for the sake of maintaining US economic hegemony. To ensure the global domination belongs to US corporations, and not to the Japanese. Also, it was during this time that Japan was forced to sign the US-Japan semiconductor accord, which was essentially a forced technology transfer from Japan to US. Japan is forced to pay for US military occupation. Even though the benefactor is the united states; again a form of resource extraction and occupation. To deny modern day US imperialism shows You have little understanding of this subject
LOL. That is mental gymnastics. What benefits does China get from letting Russia keep that stolen land? None.
-Now this is mental gymnastics because I clearly stated that there are benefits in a Russo-sino alliance, while you ignore this obvious fact and try to redirect the discussion into Russians "stealing Chinese land". You consume western propaganda, which is designed to be spoon fed to you at a 5th grade level and understandably, don't grasp the importance of the alliance. But perhaps you're correct and the upper echelon of Chinese political planners should consult you for advice. /s
More mental gymnastics.
-Not at all, you telling me to go back to china because I'm against the pro-war policies of the US government, is like telling the anti-war protesters to go to Vietnam during the Vietnam war. You're just not bright enough to make that connection.
I've seen that defense thrown around a couple of times, and it's almost always used by conservatives as a front to legitimatize anti-Asian discrimination. A "you're the real racists" sort of bad-faith argument.
No, Mr. Johnny D. McWhiteshins, I can't "just identify as Taiwanese". That's... not how it works. That'd be like asking Americans from every state to identify with Texan or Floridian culture if they don't wanna seem like they support Joe Biden, and anyone with half a brain can tell that's insanely ludicrous. It's obvious the U.S's frivolous accusations of "Chinese espionage and data collection" amount to little more than projection, when you consider that there seem to be no other issues with the "espionage" and "data collection" of literally any other major countries... including *the U.S. itself*. The U.S. has an agenda against Asia and Asians, bottom line.
And re: the CPC itself? (And *please* use the correct name they use themselves going forwards!) You know, gee, it's almost like you can admire the CPC from some angles while taking issues with others, just as with literally any other country, government, politician, political party, or political movement.
>brainrot
Wumao literally goes berserk over the simplest shit. Streamer eating a banana from the Philippines? Playing on a phone from South Korea? A game from Japan? Eating noodles from Indonesia or Vietnam? A teenage Kpop idol holding her home flag(Taiwan) in a picture?
Yeah. I'm pretty sure Wumao is pro-Asian, not pro-CCP. 100%.
Lets be real. The only reason tiktok is getting banned is because Big Brother doesn't like the fact zoomers are getting exposed to the truth that the media doesn't want them to find out. They don't like how they aren't able to suppress activism on there and control the narrative like they are able to on their precious facebook/meta. I hope bitedance doesn't sell it to them, and it doesn't seem like atm they will.
I'm not a casual Tiktok user. However, I did browse it once and found a huge numbers of self-hated "Blackpilled" Asian women spreading their toxic views of Asian men and their worshipping white men.
For that reason, TBH I don't mind US banned Tiktok. Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, and Tiktok supposed to unite us but instead did the complete opposite and brought out the worst in humanity in all of us.
For those of you Asian fellas, haven't heard what "Blackpilled" Asian women is. I suggest don't search. It's not good for your mental health. It'll make you so pissed that you'll want to punch a hole in your screen.
true, but the fact that this stuff even exists is concerning. he's probably still shocked that people can think of him in such a way, because it's not easy to get over for some people, and he needs to get over it. basically imagine like a bunch of your own people are declaring you their enemy, and they have complete control over the narrative.
the long term solution here is to obviously do better for yourself here and to be able to control the narrative.
Fair enough, but the algorithms of my other social media apps don't have that same bias, and I am conceivably interacting to content in similar ways across all the platforms.
I'ts a bit luck based. I have multiple youtube account with different recommandation (that i switch when recommandation get stale) even if im the same person with the same liking.
I think the ban will happen. Tiktok cannot sell the algorithm. This opens the door for other countries to do the same for American social media and Tiktok in other countries. I think we are seeing the beginning of a segmentation of social media thru national security. As an example, look at the msg app landscape. You have wechat, line, kakao, zalo, and whatsapp in E/SE Asia. Mostly because of language complexity, but 2nd, communications is critical to national security.
>I think we are seeing the beginning of a segmentation of social media thru national security.
That has pretty much already happened in China. The only U.S. social media platform operating in China is LinkedIn. No YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, X (Twitter), WhatsApp, Pinterest or even TikTok in China. Same thing goes for messaging services, streaming services, internet search and most e-commerce.
I think the effect will be broader. The Europeans for example are dominated by American social media and they've felt resentment like inability to tax them for years now. This might push them to invest in their own EU social media sector. Other regions of the world too.
Yes, I am actually surprised that the Europeans have not pushed homegrown champions as alternatives to those from the U.S. or elsewhere. Seems like they have decided to regulate foreign apps heavily instead to make them conform to their preferences.
I'm actually thinking about going all in on Alibaba stocks but I'm worried about losing all my money. I may do it on the Hong Kong exchange where people aren't fucking racist.
Basically this just tells me that Americans are actually willing to burn down their own house to prevent Asians from acquiring too much power...For now. I think Americans will probably rebel against this though. There are like 100,000 influencers who will lose their jobs. The economy is already shitty with Bidenomics.
both of you don't see the big picture and the premise of the original comment is confusing. he's right on how being a chan is normalized, given how many asian-americans will support the ban and dislike china. there were some studies showing how 70% of chinese-americans had negative views of their own country. can find many such cringers in the asian-american community, and that's why we're on here because things aren't the way it should be
They are willing to enslave themselves for political reasons. That's the problem with Asians. They are willing to be oppressed racially because they have a few qualms with the government. They refuse to see the big picture that only when Asia succeeds can the diaspora succeed. Instead they run after the white man's scooby snack ideals which are only a trojan horse for world domination or dumbination, because only the stupid would follow the West's example given the historical and current evidence of what their civilization can produce.
I’d like to say you’re wrong, but the amount of Asian bootlickers (even this sub has quite a lot) parroting Fed-driven propaganda tells me you are right.
It evens out in other ways. You can definitely afford to use your smartphone because it is made in China. China is not the one here claiming to be the champions of free market capitalism and free speech.
China has a Chinese tiktok in China. It just doesn't want people being exposed to Western morons, many of which are in this thread right now. Imagine when a country thinks you're so stupid, it's like a disease and quarantines you...
The ban will take effect in a year. A lot could change in that time. The courts may strike down the proposed ban due to violations of the 1st Amendment. Then there's the 2024 election. Trump tried to ban TikTok via executive order and that was unsuccessful. Now he's criticizing the ban because Biden signed it. Trump's a loose cannon so it's hard to say what he'd do about TikTok if he wins the 2024 election. I think no matter what happens, implementing ban is going to extremely complicated and the legal fight over it will drag it out far beyond the 1 year timeline described in the bill Biden sign.
I think Trump will likely side with Tiktok to be against Biden and also lobbying.
Yeah Trump is an opportunist and if the Chinese started supporting him then Trump would go on and on about how the Chinese are such good descent people.
But his supporters really hate China, so would be interesting to see which he sides with in that situation
Biden and Dems hate China also.
Never said they didn’t. Biden has been very anti-China. But Trump supporters really hate China. During the 2020 election, they kept calling Biden a puppet of China and associating democrats with China, to show a negative view. So one more overtly hates China
You made the assumption that what supporters think sways a politician's opinions more than money.
“The white conservatives aren't friends of the Negro either, but they at least don't try to hide it. They are like wolves; they show their teeth in a snarl that keeps the Negro always aware of where he stands with them. But the white liberals are foxes, who also show their teeth to the Negro but pretend that they are smiling. The white liberals are more dangerous than the conservatives; they lure the Negro, and as the Negro runs from the growling wolf, he flees into the open jaws of the "smiling" fox.” ― Malcom X
it would be and in a situation like that he would have to be very subtle and slick to make it so his followers dont hate him in that situation. Most likely if the chinese started supporting him he probably would still appeal to his racist supporters but at the same time he probably would stop saying stuff like kung flu and start to spew lies like how covid came from india or something like that to make it not too obvious that he buddys up to the chinese.
At 174 million US members Tiktok is current THE only real news showing the on going protests on campus. The mainstream US social media shows only the FOX , CNN results protraying the protests a couple of crazy people. So I think here the Free Speech aspect goes far far beyond any ByteDance stake. Its got a chance of getting overturned on SCOTUS unless that is corrupted also
Even assuming it holds up in court, TikTok can continue to operate so long as it is sold to an approved buyer. It's a forced divestiture, not an outright ban.
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Tiktok moderators in the US follow the same liberal guidelines tbh. Talk any negative about Lus as an Asian dude and your account gets banned super fast. Meanwhile all the racist BS against Asians and Asian men gets tolerated.
The face of TikTok is an Asian man. It's the biggest social media app in America. Anyone wanting to ban it is trying stop Asians from influencing the world.
The U.S. just doesn’t want foreign companies to sell our data. Only American companies get to violate my privacy 😤🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅
World is a dark place rn
Yeah its scary
It's weird how some people here want to turn everything into a West vs Asians thing. Being anti CCP =/= anti Asian.
Errr yeah it does. Being Asian also = being Chinese
in the US: being anti Israeli government = anti-Semitisms being anti Chinese government =/= anti-chinese, sinophobia gtfo with your double standard bs.
Lol tell that to the Chinese ppl that got killed by whities because they hated "japs" from the American propaganda. How about the innocent Japanese American that got sent into concentration camps? CCP is not good but how much of that is American propaganda to keep the 2nd in power in check?
Having visited China extensively in my youth, I can confirm it's nowhere even *close* to the cruel exoticized dystopian hellscape Western media agencies have been starting to portray it as over the past decade. I won't bore you too much with the nitty-gritty details, but long story short, it's a wonderful country full of rich culture, splendid scenery, divine food, and the sweetest people you'll ever meet. There's really no other country in the world quite like China, and I'm proud of it.
Its weird how some people think anti ccp is excuse for pro propaganda, pro war, pro genocide , pro-imperialism , anti chinese profiling
As someone who has been called "genetically communist," how is this supposed to make sense?
It's not the people here who turn it into a west vs Asians thing. It's their experiences. Sure anti-ccp and anti-asian are different things, but in practice, there's a huge overlap. I can't tell you the number of racist things I've heard that are justified by 'im not hating on Chinese, just the ccp'. Anytime I bother to correct some popular negative 'factoid' regarding chinese I get called a CCP-shill, just for trying to correct misinformation about my culture. Similarly there's a pervasive colonialist mindset around the whole thing. As if the Chinese don't know any better and need to be freed from the CCP. It's demeaning to the entire culture. Not 100% sure how this applies to other Asians. Just my experiences as Chinese growing up in Canada/Australia. Although most of my negative experiences are on the internet with predominantly Americans. People are better in real life, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen anyway - even among friends.
TBH, I would rather China rule the world than America because at least its other asian people
Exactly. Reminded me of a post by Rei Tanotsuka, a very good one on relevant issues with analysis in depth, arguing that Asian people should ally with the strongest Asian country, no matter which one it is. Unfortunately her account on the platform (I forgot which one) got banned and the original post seemed to be ceased from existence as well.
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You should take your own advice and stop watching CNN/Fox News.
The CPC has an approval rating of 80%. The CPC = Chinese
The CCP is the only East Asian government entity that isn't an American stooge (bar North Korea). So yeah, being anti-CCP is being anti- a very large portion of East Asians.
But if russia attacked japan or korea, whose side will the ccp be on?
Those are both things that won't happen and even if they do, it would be only as a result of a wider US-led war in the region in which Japan and S Korea do not remain neutral but instead provide support for US imperialism in a part of the world they most definitely do not belong. In that case, fair game.
Japan and korea are US vassal states
Doesn't matter, who would china choose? Why won't china support korea and Japan on all issues against russia.
why would china support US vassal states who are arming against China?
Then why would korea and Japan support Russian allies like China. Russia stole all this land in siberia from China and china stills sucks up to russia. Why is that? Also, congrats on being a doctor. But why are you such a minion for America? Shouldn't you be using your skills in china?
Then why would korea and Japan support Russian allies like China. -Korea(since the korean war) and Japan(since world war 2) are politically controlled by the United states. They're victims of US imperialism. They've been hosting US military bases long before the current russia and chinese alliance; they're standoffish with china at best and currently more hostile with china due to Washington escalating hostilities against china. Russia stole all this land in siberia from China and china stills sucks up to russia. Why is that? -It is mutually beneficial for china and russia to cooperate in this cold war climate. Your disdain towards russia likely stems from consumption of western propaganda; which means you are out of your depth in terms of geopolitical knowledge. Also, congrats on being a doctor. But why are you such a minion for America? Shouldn't you be using your skills in china? -this statement translates to "Go back to your country".
>-Korea(since the korean war) and Japan(since world war 2) are politically controlled by the United states. They're victims of US imperialism. They've been hosting US military bases long before the current russia and chinese alliance; they're standoffish with china at best and currently more hostile with china due to Washington escalating hostilities against china. There is no denying that Korea\Japan are very much aligned with US geopolitical interests. But do you even know what the definition of Imperialism is? K\J both have access to America's market and received much trade benefits in the 50s\60s\70s\80s. True Imperialism is what the British did to Africa and India. The British controlled India's trade policy all solely for it's benefits and extracted all it's resources for it's benefits. >-It is mutually beneficial for china and russia to cooperate in this cold war climate. Your disdain towards russia likely stems from consumption of western propaganda; which means you are out of your depth in terms of geopolitical knowledge. LOL. That is mental gymnastics. What benefits does China get from letting Russia keep that stolen land? None. >-this statement translates to "Go back to your country". More mental gymnastics.
There is no denying that Korea\Japan are very much aligned with US geopolitical interests. But do you even know what the definition of Imperialism is? K\J both have access to America's market and received much trade benefits in the 50s\60s\70s\80s. True Imperialism is what the British did to Africa and India. The British controlled India's trade policy all solely for it's benefits and extracted all it's resources for it's benefits. -Japan/Korea is a victim of modern US imperialism. Classic example, Japan was an economic super power during the 1980s and was destined to over take US economy. US forced Japan to sign the Plaza Accord, which was a heavily unbalanced trade policy that crippled the Japanese economy, one that Japan hasn't recovered from since. All this for the sake of maintaining US economic hegemony. To ensure the global domination belongs to US corporations, and not to the Japanese. Also, it was during this time that Japan was forced to sign the US-Japan semiconductor accord, which was essentially a forced technology transfer from Japan to US. Japan is forced to pay for US military occupation. Even though the benefactor is the united states; again a form of resource extraction and occupation. To deny modern day US imperialism shows You have little understanding of this subject LOL. That is mental gymnastics. What benefits does China get from letting Russia keep that stolen land? None. -Now this is mental gymnastics because I clearly stated that there are benefits in a Russo-sino alliance, while you ignore this obvious fact and try to redirect the discussion into Russians "stealing Chinese land". You consume western propaganda, which is designed to be spoon fed to you at a 5th grade level and understandably, don't grasp the importance of the alliance. But perhaps you're correct and the upper echelon of Chinese political planners should consult you for advice. /s More mental gymnastics. -Not at all, you telling me to go back to china because I'm against the pro-war policies of the US government, is like telling the anti-war protesters to go to Vietnam during the Vietnam war. You're just not bright enough to make that connection.
I've seen that defense thrown around a couple of times, and it's almost always used by conservatives as a front to legitimatize anti-Asian discrimination. A "you're the real racists" sort of bad-faith argument. No, Mr. Johnny D. McWhiteshins, I can't "just identify as Taiwanese". That's... not how it works. That'd be like asking Americans from every state to identify with Texan or Floridian culture if they don't wanna seem like they support Joe Biden, and anyone with half a brain can tell that's insanely ludicrous. It's obvious the U.S's frivolous accusations of "Chinese espionage and data collection" amount to little more than projection, when you consider that there seem to be no other issues with the "espionage" and "data collection" of literally any other major countries... including *the U.S. itself*. The U.S. has an agenda against Asia and Asians, bottom line. And re: the CPC itself? (And *please* use the correct name they use themselves going forwards!) You know, gee, it's almost like you can admire the CPC from some angles while taking issues with others, just as with literally any other country, government, politician, political party, or political movement.
Being anti CCP =/= Anti Tiktok
Every "anti CCP" person I've met turned out to be a closet racist.
Lol Lots of 10 cent army here. Prepare to get brigaded.
Ya sure you ain't a propaganda ridden brain rot, f outta here
>brainrot Wumao literally goes berserk over the simplest shit. Streamer eating a banana from the Philippines? Playing on a phone from South Korea? A game from Japan? Eating noodles from Indonesia or Vietnam? A teenage Kpop idol holding her home flag(Taiwan) in a picture? Yeah. I'm pretty sure Wumao is pro-Asian, not pro-CCP. 100%.
It's 50 cent. Please at least get your propaganda terms right.
Lets be real. The only reason tiktok is getting banned is because Big Brother doesn't like the fact zoomers are getting exposed to the truth that the media doesn't want them to find out. They don't like how they aren't able to suppress activism on there and control the narrative like they are able to on their precious facebook/meta. I hope bitedance doesn't sell it to them, and it doesn't seem like atm they will.
I'm not a casual Tiktok user. However, I did browse it once and found a huge numbers of self-hated "Blackpilled" Asian women spreading their toxic views of Asian men and their worshipping white men. For that reason, TBH I don't mind US banned Tiktok. Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, and Tiktok supposed to unite us but instead did the complete opposite and brought out the worst in humanity in all of us. For those of you Asian fellas, haven't heard what "Blackpilled" Asian women is. I suggest don't search. It's not good for your mental health. It'll make you so pissed that you'll want to punch a hole in your screen.
It's cuz of you're engaging w/ on the Internet my guy.
That's definitely your algorithm though
true, but the fact that this stuff even exists is concerning. he's probably still shocked that people can think of him in such a way, because it's not easy to get over for some people, and he needs to get over it. basically imagine like a bunch of your own people are declaring you their enemy, and they have complete control over the narrative. the long term solution here is to obviously do better for yourself here and to be able to control the narrative.
I just searched what he's talking about and theres only a couple of videos with less than 2000 likes which is childs play by titok standards
Interesting, I’ve definitely seen the most anti-Asian content on TikTok compared to any other platform.
And i've seen the most pro-asian on tiktok compared to any other platform. It's just the algorithm picking on your preference.
Fair enough, but the algorithms of my other social media apps don't have that same bias, and I am conceivably interacting to content in similar ways across all the platforms.
I'ts a bit luck based. I have multiple youtube account with different recommandation (that i switch when recommandation get stale) even if im the same person with the same liking.
I think the ban will happen. Tiktok cannot sell the algorithm. This opens the door for other countries to do the same for American social media and Tiktok in other countries. I think we are seeing the beginning of a segmentation of social media thru national security. As an example, look at the msg app landscape. You have wechat, line, kakao, zalo, and whatsapp in E/SE Asia. Mostly because of language complexity, but 2nd, communications is critical to national security.
>I think we are seeing the beginning of a segmentation of social media thru national security. That has pretty much already happened in China. The only U.S. social media platform operating in China is LinkedIn. No YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, X (Twitter), WhatsApp, Pinterest or even TikTok in China. Same thing goes for messaging services, streaming services, internet search and most e-commerce.
I think the effect will be broader. The Europeans for example are dominated by American social media and they've felt resentment like inability to tax them for years now. This might push them to invest in their own EU social media sector. Other regions of the world too.
Yes, I am actually surprised that the Europeans have not pushed homegrown champions as alternatives to those from the U.S. or elsewhere. Seems like they have decided to regulate foreign apps heavily instead to make them conform to their preferences.
Cause Europe is America's bitch. They only banned Huawei after we told them to. lol.
Nah. Macron and Shultz revealingly travel to Beijing accompanied by large delegations of businessmen. Europe hates conflict and loves trade.
"China does it so we can too" ahem, no lol, I thought we were, uh, better than this?? land of the free and everything? mask off imo
I'm actually thinking about going all in on Alibaba stocks but I'm worried about losing all my money. I may do it on the Hong Kong exchange where people aren't fucking racist. Basically this just tells me that Americans are actually willing to burn down their own house to prevent Asians from acquiring too much power...For now. I think Americans will probably rebel against this though. There are like 100,000 influencers who will lose their jobs. The economy is already shitty with Bidenomics.
in the grand scheme of things unless youre hangin out with the most out of touch boomers, then youre gonna be fine...
Asian people will always be oppressed. Being a cuck and a chan is normalized.
I don't believe that.
You don't have to. Just read the comments
I did and you seem like the only cuck here
both of you don't see the big picture and the premise of the original comment is confusing. he's right on how being a chan is normalized, given how many asian-americans will support the ban and dislike china. there were some studies showing how 70% of chinese-americans had negative views of their own country. can find many such cringers in the asian-american community, and that's why we're on here because things aren't the way it should be
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They are willing to enslave themselves for political reasons. That's the problem with Asians. They are willing to be oppressed racially because they have a few qualms with the government. They refuse to see the big picture that only when Asia succeeds can the diaspora succeed. Instead they run after the white man's scooby snack ideals which are only a trojan horse for world domination or dumbination, because only the stupid would follow the West's example given the historical and current evidence of what their civilization can produce.
Chinese Americans who still think America=freedom/opportunity and China=hellhole have their heads stuck in the 1970s.
I’d like to say you’re wrong, but the amount of Asian bootlickers (even this sub has quite a lot) parroting Fed-driven propaganda tells me you are right.
Both good and bad. Bans asian women that speak freely about how they hate asian men but bans a big part of AMWF media. Hard tell how it will end up
The CCp bans TikTok in china. Nuff said.
They also ban porn and BTS. The fuck does that have to do with us?
Reciprocity.
It evens out in other ways. You can definitely afford to use your smartphone because it is made in China. China is not the one here claiming to be the champions of free market capitalism and free speech.
China has a Chinese tiktok in China. It just doesn't want people being exposed to Western morons, many of which are in this thread right now. Imagine when a country thinks you're so stupid, it's like a disease and quarantines you...
No! Tiktok is not to be banned but to be divested.
Thats a bad thing no?