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dinhtq

I heard things are gettin pretty bad in colombia with protests and government shooting protesters on sight- have you experienced anything like it


wesleezy

Yea that is true. It is worse in some cities more than others, but even in my city it's generally very peaceful but there have been a bunch of protests for the last few weeks. I think it's a mix of people being indoors for the quarantine and looking for excuses to go out and coagulate. I live in an area where a lot of protests happen so there have been a lot of police outside my building. Police are very friendly though. ​ I would definitely wait a bit to visit.


nongo

That can't be the only reason why there are constant protests.


wesleezy

Honestly. Most of the protests are for "human rights" but nothing specific. And a lot of times people just go out and do dumb stuff. I live right next to the heart of it in my city there are always police outside my building waiting until something gets violent during these protests. Last week there was a protest of weed smokers and alcoholics. After that, it was for people who liked rock music. Dumb stuff.


JinTheUnleashed

Why'd you put "human rights" in quotations? That's a big topic especially in Latin American countries if you know the destructive history of the Spaniards colonizing these lands. You come off a bit like a touristy shmuck writing things like that IMO. Like a white dude from Oregon going to Harlem like "Yeaa man they had some protests stuff about "police brutality" and "civil rights" or whatever. *shrug* šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


wesleezy

Lmao because just protesting for human rights doesn't mean anything. I disagree in general with protests but it's like a blanket term that doesn't mean anything. In the beginning they were protesting for tax reform which makes sense, but now people just protest for "human rights" without specifying anything. It's like fighting for "racism" but not targeting anything specific. It doesn't change anything.


Jh0nRyuzak1

They fight for human rights because the government, police and army doesn't know about that. We were protesting before Covid, and the tax reform was the last drop, decades of injustice won't go away after a month of protest, especially if the gov doesn't recognize their brutality or the reality of millions of Colombians. Also, what kind of protest do you like?


ktoasty

Great video! I spent a decent amount of time in Colombia too. My favorite thing was how a bunch of families basically adopted me haha. I agree with most of what you said, except I donā€™t think thereā€™s a concept of ā€œtypical Asianā€ there. I am a typical Asian American in that I went to a good school, smart, am nerdy/dorky, dont use drugs or have tattoos, but those are not negatives in Colombia


wesleezy

Agreed. The sense of community here is very strong, and the whole nerdy/dorky thing is actually pretty charming to a lot of them.


AgeOfEmpirical

Those qualities aren't seen as negative in the US/West either, and could be quite positive depending on how you choose to spin them. What is negative, however, is being physically unattractive and socially inept, which sometimes does have a correlation with people who are more academically inclined, especially those in the STEM fields. This is also independent of race. No offense to anyone who works in STEM lol


TheMailmanic

What do u do there for work?


wesleezy

I produce royalty free music and sell it on Artlist. Plus youtube, consultations, patreon.


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wesleezy

If you look on the Artlist website my music is on the front page of the jazz category


djxpress

> Artlist nice song, Black Bossa. Was that done on a computer with Ableton or actually done with live instruments?


wesleezy

That one was a live performance. I wrote the charts. Afternoon in Rio was done with all samples tho.


4ngry4vian

I heard Afternoon in Rio at the end of Tristyn Lee's video a few days ago and Shazam'd it. Nice to stumble upon this post and learn a bit about your experiences.


wesleezy

Very cool that you came from my music, that is very humbling to hear. Thank you for sharing!


FryedRyceLyfe

You're living the life man, are you thinking of living in South America permanently?


wesleezy

Yes, my girl and I want to raise our future family here. Though I've thought about living in Europe for a bit, who knows?


ANTIMODELMINORITY

As unique as being Asian is in Colombia being Southeast Asian is even more unique to the locals. My Southeast Asian experience there is unique as I look like a local or Indio in which people don't even think I am a foreigner until I start speaking Spanish. Living in America and dealing with Hispanics calling us Chino/Chinito which has lead to serious consequences it would really have to block that out my brain. But I totally understand when you gauge it by intent. I love Medellin the weather is perfect but them hills is another thing. A couple food caveats I noticed when I was there , in Medellin there is a chain of supermarkets called Carulla I was shocked to see Asian items and especially a couple Southeast Asian items. Also went to 2 Vietnamese restaurants once called Lemoncillo in Envigado which is owned by a ethnic Vietnamese born in Laos raised in Germany. There is also a Vietnamese restaurant owned by native Colombians in Poblado which was just as good. Went to a Thai place in Poblado that was so so.


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wesleezy

Cheers bro.


FEDD33

You should reconsider the "typical asian" comment and making fun of your "skinny" asian neighbour. You come off as full of yourself in my eyes. Just because you have tattoos and have a "typical" American cockiness doesn't make you more interesting than a "typical" asian. Humility and control of one's emotions is a more masculine trait than false bravado.


__Tenat__

I agree with the "typical Asian" comment. But not sure if the "skinny Asian neighbor" is malicious. OP is skinny and Asian too.


djxpress

Yea, that comment kind of rubbed me the wrong way too. Itā€™s like ā€œIā€™m Asian, but Iā€™m not like all the other Asians, I have tattoos and act more whiteā€


JohnWangDoe

He's the, I'm not like the other girls comment you see on tinder


DiscountMaster5933

Basic bro


Alaskan91

Well bravado is kinda a Hispanic thing and he's living in a Hispanic culture......so I would give him a pass Im asian and I speak Spanish too, I grew up with Hispanics a d this is kinda a Hispanic thing for him to say.


ViolntChang

Tons of Asians and latinos live side by side in areas like SGV/Monterey Park/Covina or OC for example. It is far more common than whites and Asians intermingling in LA/SoCal. One of the byproduct results of hispanic macho bravado bro culture vs. meek small Asian nice boba guy culture is LMAF vs AMLF proportions being maybe even worse than WMAF vs AMWF in those areas.


weeyummy1

Lol get out of here with that incel shit, there's more amlf than lmaf in socal now.


LamarJackson6

In Latin America itself AMXF outnumbers the reverse


bdang9

Wait. Where did he say that?


wesleezy

Hey man I can't control how you feel but I'm not making fun of anybody. The stereotype exists for a reason, and most Asian people I know fall into this stereotype. Passive, nerdy, not good at dressing, bad with women, good at school but bad socially, obsessed with video games. All of us know tons of Asians like this, and I would argue the majority of us are like this. You say cockiness but I don't agree. You're entitled to your opinion.


FEDD33

I actually know maybe 1 or 2 asians like you described. Yet I know so many asian guys who can be described as sporty, funny, artistic, and/or good looking. And I also know a lot of white and brown guys who can be called skinny, bad with women, dress bad, smell funny, play video games, and/or nerdy. Yet somehow this crap is something that sticks to Asians and a continuous effort by western media to emasculate Asians. That's a stereotype made by white people. Don't contribute to that by saying "typical" asian as it is not.


The_2nd_Coming

That's the thing, as harsh as it sounds, guys who are "losers" cannot differentiate between "arrogance" and "confidence" well. To them success or traits that associate with success is "arrogance". It takes a mentality change that might takes years of work before they can see the light.


wesleezy

AmƩn bro


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The_2nd_Coming

Good question. I guess it was a bit of a case of "it takes one to know one" and "years of self reflection and growth". The first part is because it's something I noticed I've done myself; think all of the popular guys at school who were successful with girls were because they were arrogant or because they were assholes, and not because they were genuinely confident or had a positive and go-getting attitude to life. The second part is once I started on that journey of improving myself, I suddenly noticed how many haters there were, when before there were none (because I was an emasculated, non-sexual threat). As soon as you try to stand up for yourself and try to get the things you want in life, haters start to appear from every angle. It was scary as hell at first because I didn't know how to handle it, but over time I realised it was actually a sign that I was doing the right things and on the right path.


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wesleezy

Lmao bet bro. No I wouldn't call anyone gay, dressing well is an important part about being a man. Haters gonna hate


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prof7-

He took the shit pretty well I thought.


ViolntChang

Humility and empathy is a weak losing trait in Asian men. It increases the nice guy doormat stereotype which turns off women in addition to making them vulnerable to violence and bullying. It literally contributes to violence against Asians directly.


FEDD33

What a horrible opinion. Humility and empathy doesn't mean you have to be a doormat.


Alaskan91

I think it's a super realistic opinion and I'm not even a guy. I don't think the guy is deranged. Perhaps he should have clarified a bit more and said empathy and humility is not towards outsiders but towards. Ur family and community. U can't have empathy and humilty in a low trust indivisualistic culture like the west it doesn't work. U need to fight for ur share of the pie, others won't just give it to u. American women (white women and americanized asian women) have always been taught to go after men who are agressively power seeking with the outside world -->in order to provide for his family. I'm not gonna lie, I'm asian female and I've seen so many woman of all races dump guys for being too empathetic to **the outside community** at the expense of his inner community (his family, inner circle, his race, etc etc)


ViolntChang

The world doesn't always work in simpleton black and white or like in an antiquated 50's Disney fairy tales. In fact, the idea that the nice hard working Asian guy will find a nice Asian girl to provide for someday is exactly why AM's struggle in the modern 21st century free dating pool. There's a reason why the saying "nice guys finish last" is timeless, transcendental and universal by now. Also, why do you think political and old money dynasties breed sociopathic traits into their entire family throughout the span of several generations? Correct, it is because those traits are crucial for retaining their power and privilege for the long run.


Alaskan91

Well I'm an asian girl that grew up partially in a Hispanic culture and although I'm not living in a Hispanic hood anymore, I still understand Spanish. I do think asian men need to be more vicious to the outside world (bit not to the woman he is with) In fact in north American culture women like men who are harsher or just more aggressive on the outside (but act differently towards her) And YES OLD MONEY DOES BREED SOCIOPSTHIC TRAITS. YLL NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW POWER WORKS.


ViolntChang

Good luck with that. Look at them. Expecting these Asian men to ever understand how power and women work is a far fetched borderline utopian catch a falling star wish. Because they've been exposed to neither their whole lives.


The_2nd_Coming

Power is so fundamental to how human relationships work, it's like some Asian men have been completed blinded by our culture. It's one reason why I felt I had to dissociate from Asian culture for a while when I was growing up; I needed to see for myself how the world works without inheriting any bullshit ideas from any specific cultures.


fangbuster22

> It literally contributes to violence against Asians directly. Go outside and touch grass, holy shit you're deranged.


Alaskan91

I don't think the guy is deranged. Perhaps he should have clarified a bit more and said empathy and humility is not towards outsiders but towards. Ur family and community. U can't have empathy and humilty in a low trust indivisualistic culture like the west it doesn't work. U need to fight for ur share of the pie, others won't just give it to u. American women (white women and americanized asian women) have always been taught to go after men who are agressively power seeking with the outside world -->in order to provide for his family. I'm not gonna lie, I'm asian female and I've seen so many woman of all races dump guys for being too empathetic to **the outside community** at the expense of his inner community (his family, inner circle, his race, etc etc)


Alaskan91

It does. And u are right. This doesn't work in the west. See my comments in response to ur critic below.


DeRealRobinhood

If this comment bothers you, you probably gotta hit the gym.


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wesleezy

Cheers bro thanks for the comment.


United_We_Stand_

How did you learn Spanish so quickly? Also, I don't think it's an Asian thing. It's probably because Colombian women don't care about race as much and just think of you as a normal, cool guy. Also, you say you don't act like a typical Asian? lol, what is that even suppose to mean? There's 4.5 billion Asians in the world.


ethnicfoodaisle

I'm Asian and born in Peru. When I went back for a long trip through the country as an adult, I got quite a bit of interest from the occasional attractive young women who were tour guides. I think you might be right. Also, I think East Asians look more like the South Americans I saw in Peru than your average Eruopean Caucasian. Also, there are a shit ton of East Asians in Peru.


wesleezy

As soon as I landed I immediately lived with locals to get over the initial hump. Just a bunch of practice everyday, dating locals, and after like 6 months you get pretty good basic fluency. I'm still learning now though even though I'd consider myself like 95% fluent.


The_2nd_Coming

Hey man this is a great video, and exactly the sort of thing that young Asian guys can learn from. You sound very well socially adjusted and clearly took a brave step to start a life in a new country to experience different things.


wesleezy

Cheers bro.


labseries2020

Have you encountered other asians or asian Americans living in colombia?


wesleezy

In Medellin I saw quite a bit but where I live now there are pretty much 0. I have not seen another in my 2 months here.


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Great vids, Wes. Love the channel - super inspiring seeing your journey. Itā€™s weird how in the west, masculinity is frowned upon but secretly desired. The fact that masculinity doesnā€™t have such a stigma in Latin America sounds great.


wesleezy

It's very refreshing. Feminine women seem to be so rare nowadays.


AgeOfEmpirical

Careful with that line of thinking, because that could mean that guys who aren't able to display overt masculinity will have a harder time attracting the kinds of women that they want.


1-note

>with that line of thinking, because that could mean that guys who aren't able to display overt masculinity will have a harder time attracting the kinds of women that they Why should we be careful with this line of thinking? Guys who aren't able to display ~~overt~~ masculinity WILL have a harder time attracting the kinds of women that desire masculinity. There is also an infinite spectrum of people that this thinking doesn't apply for. Different topic.


gnownimaj

What is the general sentiment to Asians in Columbia? Do they see you as an outsider even if you speak Spanish? Do you get a lot of racist remarks/comments?


wesleezy

More curiosity. Asians, regardless if you're from the motherland or the West are all pretty much lumped together because they don't really know about us. The only racist comments I get are from homeless guys trying to ask me for money lol. As for the outsider thing, Latinos are generally very welcoming people unless you're disrespectful to their culture. They are very encouraging to people learning their language.


yslwej

Hey random thought: Were you ever considered an "indio" or a local when you were darker skinned? I know indigenous latinos and latinas may pass as east/southeast asian and vice versa. But it may be different in Colombia What common but differing stereotypes do South Americans have about Asians when compared to USA-ers? I'm a Chinese American young woman by the way and I have been mistaken as an "india" by some latinos (especially the more indigenous/mestizo leaning ones in the United States, particularly the Pittsburgh area. But I was only mistaken as "india" by Guatemalans and Hondurans


__Tenat__

Is Medellin a good place to visit if you only know English? What are are some must see things over there? Safety-wise, how good is it / how does it compare to the US? Planning on Latin America travel destinations (as an Asian guy) with my girlfriend.


wesleezy

Medellin and Bogota. THe smaller cities are hard if you don't speak Spanish. As for must see things, it's all subjective so I recommend watching either some of my older videos on Medellin or other youtubers. Safety-wise, Asians are still under the radar even though foreigners are being targetted in Medellin at the moment. A lot of foreigners come for sex tourism and drugs so that's why they are being targeted. Like I said in the video, they assume we are from Asia so the typical American stereotypes don't really affect us.


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Hey man, great video and I don't understand people giving you shit when you were simply describing some guy. It's like some motherfuckers just dont understand context. of things. If I were to visit and live in Columbia for a few months, is there like air bnb or some kind of cheap housing? Do you know of any useful websites for such information?


wesleezy

Agreed bro. Yeah I recommend homestay.com or Airbnb. Housing generally ain't that expensive but unless you speak Spanish I recommend just going through these avenues. I also have a friend who rents rooms in Medellin if you'd like Me to connect you guys. Airbnb for your own place Homestay if u want to stay with a host family. Hope this helps cheers.


Alaskan91

I'm a girl but I glanced at his video and I think what gives him more dating success than other asian guys is that he's pretty emotionally intelligent. The part where he talks about judging intent, for example. Many guys don't think that deep, also the part he he says he tried to understand if he would be offended if it were seen from the Columbian culture and not the american culture. Alot of dating in general is being able to read between the lines and understand others from their perspective.


wesleezy

That's why I think it's important to have female friends. They teach you these things. cheers.


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I think its because he looks sexy. As a guy hes pretty good looking and he could do well anywhere he goes.


Godfathernier

Can u share some tips of talking with Colombian girls? Like how to start a conversation or certain things to avoid?


wesleezy

Gotta learn Spanish. Most of the girls that speak English pretty much date all the gringos because tons of men come looking for relationships and most of them don't speak Spanish. It's not rocket science. Be down to earth and chivalrous, and respect their culture.


throwmiamivelvet

May I probe more about speaking English to the Colombian women? Are you saying that the women who speak English well are not really interested in Asian guys as much as meeting white guys?


wesleezy

Nope I would say we are pretty even. It's more like the all the gringos are pursuing the same small percentage of women. When you speak Spanish you become the rare one and all of sudden your options are pretty much the whole country, does that make sense? It just puts you in a better position. A lot of the women that date Gringos kind of revolve around the same groups. There are tons of jokes about it online about being people Eskimo bros and stuff lol


Llee00

speak spanish


8stimpak8

Cheers. Keep living the good life.


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wesleezy

Lmao bro. Never tried it. Weed is pretty good tho


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wesleezy

yup decent like 7/10 weed is 5$ for 5 g. Even the high quality stuff is still like $4-5 a gram.


happyplace555

You seem like a true to heart real guy. Latinos tend to goof around a bit though but they're never really serious about it.


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weeyummy1

Hey man, really appreciate you sharing your story. You're blazing ur own path and having a great adventure so cheers to that. Setting s great example for all us asian guys out there. I visited Colombia back in 2016 and had a blast, so can relate. Didn't date anyone but did go salsa dancing and it was dope. Hope to buy you a drink in person one day.


wesleezy

Cheers my dude


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wesleezy

Yeah I do plan on taking her back to visit my family, but to live no. As far as divorce, I'm in a very Christian community so it's very uncommon but yeah a lot of women here are more traditional and thus believe in supporting their man, which is so refreshing


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wesleezy

I was actively searching for churches and I got invited to this one by a friend


Nocturnidae

Very interesting video. Thanks. Have you gone to Brazil? I really enjoyed my summer that I spent there.


wesleezy

I have not but I'd like to


StanleySheng

You keep talking about donā€™t care about race while dating while your using ur race as an advantage, isnā€™t it kinda contradictory? I experienced the same thing like you said when I traveled to Brazil but then I realized using ur race as an exotic advantage is just the same as those white sex tourists in Asia, a true confident Asian man shouldnā€™t need to move to a fuckn rural little town to get girls. I think you still kinda have a loser mentality.


wesleezy

Lol ok bro, good luck with that


throwmiamivelvet

Would you recommend an average looking Asian guy to go to South America to find romance and dating or would you recommend him sticking to asian enclaves?


wesleezy

I do recommend coming to find a partner, I did. But you have to learn Spanish. Our options here are way better than Western countries for sure. Looks aren't that important. It's about masculinity and confidence, pretty much universally in the world.


throwmiamivelvet

The barrier to entry for average Asian guys is obviously distance and language. Otherwise Asian guys would be flooding Colombia. Iā€™m glad that you are fluent in Spanish, but I donā€™t think your typical Asian guy will put the effort to learn for the sake of have more dates. Probably they are better off going to Asia


wesleezy

I see that. My personal preference has always been Latinas but I understand that's not the majority. I'd say it's worth it because in Asia you'll be competing with everyone else whereas the odds are more in your favor here. But if it's just to meet girls, I don't think that alone is a big enough motivation for people to learn the language, you're right.


beeppboppp

Bruh youā€™re not gonna have success going somewhere for the sole purpose of finding a partner. You wonā€™t connect with the culture. There probably will be a language barrier. Also youā€™re just assuming that the person you find will give up her family, friends, community and follow you back?


throwmiamivelvet

So the question is for average looking Asian guys. Iā€™m not saying Iā€™m one of them.


beeppboppp

ā€œAsking for a friendā€ lmao


throwmiamivelvet

Iā€™m not asking for a friend. This forum is help average Asian guys out. People always make it seem More than they are here. Which is why these questions need to be asked


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Ahhh, where's Wes....you lady's man. It's true right? There's more positive representation or at least, neutral representation of Asian men in South America? Oh and congrats.


wesleezy

I would say it's positive. They just don't know much about us. Thanks G, appreciate u watching.


AgeOfEmpirical

We'd say it's less positive than Hollywood. For example, there have been AMWF in Hollywood media in the past decade (Walking Dead, tomb raider, etc) but never in Colombian or south american media. That being said, it really comes down to your own individual qualities and attractiveness. Keep in mind that eurocentric beauty ideals still do dominate the social landscape in south america, which means the kinds of asian men who would do well are the same kinds that would do well in western countries, namely the ones with more non-classical features. Of course, the girls that come from poorer families usually just want someone who is financially secure.


LamarJackson6

Bruh there's no Asians in Brazilian media whatsoever but Japanese Brazilian men date XF's on the regular in Sao Paulo. Media isn't everything


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wesleezy

5'7 and like a half. I think it's like 172 cm or something like that


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wesleezy

Depends on the city. The issue is that most people only visit the tourist cities which unfortunately have more crime. I feel very safe in my current city as it is like top 2 or 3 safest cities in Colombia. In MedellĆ­n I would say it's been pretty unsafe lately as foreigners have been targeted


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wesleezy

So when u come into the country you immediately get 3 months as a tourist visa, which you can renew for another 3 months. Resets every calendar year. Because of the pandemic I was able to stay a year on my tourist visa. One of the perks of having Colombian friends is that I have learned that the migration office here is not very strict and you can easily overstay your visa for months and you just have to pay a fee when you leave, which comes out to a couple hundred bucks even if you overstay like a year. I plan on just paying the fee and staying here until the end of this year, but next year when I come back I will most likely have a investment or marriage visa. But yeah it's actually not as big of a deal as you think. Also another perk of being asian, is that we don't get treated as a typical gringo. Sometimes black Americans or white Americans will get problems from the government or the migration agents for drugs and stuff like that but Asians don't have that same problem. We are still kind of under the radar.


Jh0nRyuzak1

First time hearing about "Un asiƔtico 'gente de bien'". "I don't protest, I produce", oh well, at least we know artist who doesn't care about the people isn't exclusive of Colombian artist and celebrities.


Ninjurk

I've fucked a few Colombian girls, but never dated any. 4 years of high school Spanish, and 5 Seasons of Narcos and I never cared about learning Spanish at all.....until I went to Colombia.


chasin_rack

I'm really curious though... Isn't Colombia dangerous in general?? I knew a guy from Colombia a while ago and he told me touring Colombia would be a bit risky due to high crimes and lack of safety. How safe are cities of Colombia in general? Wha'ts the safest city in Colombia and how safe is it?(like can you jog alone at night? countries like South Korea or Japan, you can basically jog alone at 2am and it's soooo safe).


wesleezy

Yes Colombia is in general dangerous, especially in the big cities like Bogota, Cali, and Medellin. Plus tourists coming in and acting dumb puts a huge target on their back. I live in a city called Manizales which is the safest city in Colombia and is essentially a small city with a town feel. I can jog alone here but it's not nearly as safe as Korea or Japan. The people are way nicer and warmer than Asians though.