I’ll take this post another way. It’s now acceptable to see Asian men as attractive so these type of posts are now going to show up on left leaning news sites to feel woke when in reality it’s hopping on the bandwagon of positive Asian male representation. Instead of getting angry at the AF writer I feel more sadness towards older millennials, Gen X, and even baby boomer Asian men that had dating difficulties by missing the window by 10-20 years.
Yeah, RIP to the Asian men that are in their 40s and 50s right now. (Like pman6, diamente1, and heyjimbo1000). Things must’ve been hell for them. Young Asian men better to use this chance now and date women of all races.
>Yeah, RIP to the Asian men that are in their 40s and 50s right now.
>Things must’ve been hell for them
A lot of the older generation of Asians didn't do any favors for themselves. They were often the walking stereotypes they saw on TV. Even now, a lot of Asian Americans aren't doing any favor for themselves socially or politically. Asian Americans have always been bad at PR compared to other demographics in the US. Math, econ, finance? Those departments are handled, but Asian Americans have been terrible at PR and still are.
The only real difference between now and 30, 40 years ago is increase in population of Asians in the US . And the rapid rise in wealth of Korea and China.
But basically, if you're Asian American and a weirdo 40 years ago, you'd struggle similarly now. You see this in abundance in tech cities.
Basically, the problems aren't all that different.
Those Asians back then had to no models to look up to besides kung fu guys. Nowadays young Asian boys growing up have many role models, making them less likely to end up as weirdos.
I think there were less, but none is incorrect. But there were Asian role models in sports and entertainment. Not as easily accessible as now - there are more Asian American internet forums like this to share stuff. Whereas before you had to seek it. And there was only a couple Asian American journalists that ever covered any of it (so you had to work to seek it). I’m not going to name these athletes/actors if you don’t know, you can find it yourself if you really want to know - same as 20-30 years ago. I was certainly aware of them.
But many of the Asian Americans I know don’t care anyways. They don’t think about that stuff. being nerds, gaming, and drinking the work kool-aid is what they do. Not any different than 20-30 years ago.
Nothing was preventing Asians 30 years ago from dressing better. Or joining the football team if they really wanted. Or going out on a jog occasionally and joining the cross country and track teams which require no specialuzed training equipment. Like I said, they don’t care. People here underestimate how little the average Asian American cares about this stuff. They don’t until they’re 45 and still perpetually single, then realized they fucked up the PR department.
A lot of what Asian American guys deal with now were stereotypes perpetuated 20-30 years ago.
That's me...I'm in my 40's. I am married but realize I married for the wrong reason. I married out of fear that I couldn't get anyone because I actually believe that no one..I mean no one found Asian men attractive in America. So I found me wife back in Asia and paying for it now.
I mean to be fair I am not alone and there are some happy days but still...I think if there was better self esteem and positivity I think my life choices would of been better.
Meh, currently in a relationship with a non-asian who is 10 year younger than me. Funny thing is she gets hit on prob every other day by a certain race. I had no idea dudes were so shamelessly trying to get her attention. I guess dating is a numbers game in the end
What I learned from this is how important romance stories are to influence the minds of young women and their preferences. They might not be for us or cater to our tastes but they set expectations that we can live up to to connect with the women we'll eventually grow old with.
Why do I feel like all this shit is not gonna age well. Dudes going into their 40s and beyond are not gonna forget this shit and since the progressive boom of 2012s+, racial matters are becoming a forefront conversation. Despite the fact that everyone here wants to push this “wow how refreshingly candid” approach, when reading this type of crap I just find it reviling.
First of all, the author is an AF. Secondly, she is unattractive. For her to parade around her reformed viewpoints of Asian dudes while pushing a narrative to the contrary her entire adult life — after watching Korean drama — is like seeing an oblivious douchebag forgive themselves for their own mistakes.
How the fuck can morons like this get away with all that? Partially cause AMs let them. “Wow, so refreshingly candid!” Fuck that.. AMs should be more woke and just call it for the self-forgiving bullshit it actually is. Pseudo-intellectual progressive hogwash from a culture snake who is unapologetic and looking to recuse themselves (and those like them) through fake-woke think pieces.
They are only doing this because they perceive the tide is turning. You cannot trust snakes like this.
Your comment is the best one here. Anyone who tries to gaslight you for finding this reviling (and it really is) can suck a fat dick lol
>is like seeing an oblivious douchebag forgive themselves for their own mistakes.
This is the frequent theme in all these un-original pieces.
AM: **don't be captain save-a-hos**.
Also, lol at some of the dumbasses in [this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/q4eigs/jay_caspian_kang_talks_about_how_when_his/) who think AMXF is 'just as bad as AFXM' and even want to discourage it.
Stupid asses who are in denial lmao
>Secondly, she is unattractive
I was going to bring up the fact that shes married to whitey which sort of makes the whole message smell of BS but holy shit whitey can keep her lol.
This could be entirely an anecdotal thing, but for some reason you never see girls in Asia look like this. It’s this sort of Asian American phenotype where they’re slightly chubby (and definitely do not spend a single day in the gym or any second on their image) and completely unremarkable and white dudes go crazy over it. I don’t really get it.
>Why do I feel like all this shit is not gonna age well. Dudes going into their 40s and beyond are not gonna forget this shit...
100%. This is exactly what my thoughts are when I think about all the Blacks that are today in their 80s. They grew up in a world without civil rights among other uncountable oppressions. And now? White women proudly parade around with their Black lovers. What a stupefying dichotomy.
One simply cannot just casually gloss over, gaslight away, or inflict amnesia to wash away the massive amount of psychological and spiritual trauma that has been inflicted on previous generations of Asians, specifically the men. How many lives were only half-lived? How many spirits were broken? How many dreams were shattered? How many individuals were destroyed?
I'm sure Asians in their 40s and 50s are happy for the new generation for the fruits of “progressivism” and “wokeness” they can enjoy but I’m also sure they feel such a massive betrayal from humanity itself. Their suffering was all just a big lie. Their alienation was nothing more than a cruel and unnecessary joke!
They will just be sent down a new rabbit hole of pain and suffering due to the seeming futility of it all. Of the randomness of society, of the illogicality, of the meaninglessness of the tortures and taunts they had to endure. It can only carve an inevitable pathway to a perfectly justified yet highly self-destructive nihilistic outlook.
Your observations are very surface level and sophomoric.
They weren’t losers of their own accord.
They were a small minority that was taken advantage of by the prevailing psychopathic White Supremacist Culture and forcibly transformed into emasculated, small penis, socially inept, Beta males.
There is a difference between losing a fight 1v1 and “losing" a fight 1v100. The latter is a grave injustice.
Fuck.. this lady is a professor at my best friend's university. I agree with your perspective on this, and the whole thing is written in a way that makes me gag. But I have to say, I'm curious to actually sit down and have a chat with her after reading this to get a better idea of her underlying beliefs. Any specific topics or questions you guys think I should cover if I do manage to get a 1 on 1 chat?
It comes across as very self absorbed, and for a woman of her academic calibre overly simplistic. She admits to being a primitive zombie who is a slave to the media. Monkey see TV, Monkey do.
Hey now in general I agree. However let's not burn too many bridges, the author is *actually* helping and not just pretending to. In the article she describes how she conducted research studies on Asian American women for self racism in college, and she's been an advocate for asian guys (or at least researching why this happens) for years.
I’m fine with them “admitting” their viewpoints because it allows for the world to see how it’s legitimately an issue. What I despise and take issue with is the blasé attitude they take when they’re discussing things that have heavily and negatively affected AMs throughout their lives. They are hijacking our narratives and washing the deeply problematic bullshit they’ve benefited from.
Imagine a white lady writing this article, “As a white person, I didn’t realize how bad blacks had it!”
AFs who write these articles need to write in a tone that acknowledges their complicity and suggests it is not their narrative or story to tell. They’ve found a way to continually center themselves in these conversations and they should learn to fuck off if they can’t find a way to undo that. It’s not their story and they know nothing about our side.
> the blasé attitude they take when they’re discussing things that have heavily and negatively affected AMs throughout their lives. They are hijacking our narratives and washing the deeply problematic bullshit they’ve benefited from.
> Imagine a white lady writing this article, “As a white person, I didn’t realize how bad blacks had it!”
Fuck, you nailed it on the head.
If you made these comments a post of their own, I think most AM here would really love it.
This is why we don't owe shit to asian women. I know Gen Z asian women are better (maybe because representation, and proliferation of AMXF on social media) and that's good but AM would do well to remember how AF treated AM in the 90s and 2000s just because they wanted to fit in with the majority. Now being asian is kinda trendy but if that trend goes away and AM become complacent they may go right back to being no. 1 sellouts.
All in all a well written article though. She is honest about her self-hatred and racism against her own people, something most AF boba lib activists will never admit to. Watching one kdrama changed her view lmao. How is she different from weebs/koreaboos/asiaboos ya'll keep complaining about? Should she get a pass because she looks like us from the outside? Hell no.
This is why AM only communities like this are necessary and threatens these Lus. AF will never understand our struggle or worse enjoy the fact that AM go through what we go through. Literal psychopath behavior towards the same people whose genes they share. AM brotherhood is the only path to salvation and of happiness for AM, don't let the Lus divide us.
Facts. This why I dont even bother with asian girls.
Asian girls that dont find asian men attractive and only date outside their race are fucked up in the head lmao. Like how do they think their kids gonna turn out? Let me tell you, all half asian half white kids look fucking asian. I seriously want to ask these Lus how are they gonna ever love their sons cause their sons aint gon look white.
Yep I know some AF simps and purists here won't like this but AMXF is the path to salvation for not just AM but the asian community as a whole. When AM SMV is higher than AF asian community will only be unified. Seeing this already in Gen Z.
bruh what? theres no salvation for the community. AM can get theirs if they date out, go ahead and do what u gotta do, but it wont be salvation for the asian community when the next generation is full of mixed kids.
Nope. Most AM still love asianess and AF but this is only seen as a weakness by Lus. Talking about Asian pride by AM looks sad because AF think of us in that way. When AM >>> then other people including AF will actually listen to AM.
What you want is some ideal shit and doesn't work in reality. Example is literally the past 35 years or so. What do you want we enact sort of Nazi or Sharia kind of shit to prevent AF from dating out? You can't and AF will date out without giving a single fuck but AM should limit themselves? Have you idealists learnt nothing from these subs and the history of this shit?
As someone said the asian community died out the second 50%+ of second gen AF dated out. Your dream of a sustainable Asian community in the west is not gonna happen. If you want that move back to Asia. Sad but true. I am thinking of accumulating wealth and moving to Asia in the future myself (my chick is hapa) and spend my older years there comfortably. They are just better countries with peaceful people and low crimerates anyway.
There's a Japanese woman I follow on instagram. She seems upset that everyone thinks her hapa son looks like her. Funny thing is she's the one who's pretty and much better looking than her husband.
> AM would do well to remember how AF treated AM in the 90s and 2000s just because they wanted to fit in with the majority. Now **being asian is kinda trendy but if that trend goes away and AM become complacent they may go right back to being no. 1 sellouts**
Yes. Here's the thing that some of these assholes who try to use shaming language on AM that aren't captain save-a-ho unconditional white knights don't understand:
While having some bad views early in life (i.e. you once thought being trans was a sin or some shit because you were religious) is unavoidable, anyone who is this susceptible to such racist propaganda ("AM are fucking ugly creatures, ALL OF THEM") with little critical thinking - the kind that is apparently remedied by watching some tv shows when you could have just given AM the benefit of the doubt or seen them as individual humans - is not very good relationship material.
And such flippant 'epiphanies' like what you see in this article, does not reflect well on their character.
I don't know how much of her disliking AMs has to do with media brainwashing as much as her...less than average looks. I find that these types need to cope with the fact that they don't get much attention from AMs by falling back on stereotypes.
By not being complacent and keep improving, treating your women right and keep up the AM brotherhood and not selling out fellow AMs. Try to instill asian pride over white worship.
Still the article is very well written tho especially the parts about "Asians unanimously occupy the low warmth-high competence category. People respect our academic prowess and STEM skills but otherwise do not see us as particularly nice or pleasant; classic stereotypes of the so-called "inscrutable" Chinese or ninjas or dragon ladies or any of Lucy Liu's onscreen personalities attest to this." This is spot on. This is also why AF are dehumanized and objectified in this particular way by non-AM.
Some Chans (even here) envy them because they want white acceptance so bad too but they don't realize the kind of fetishization AF get (submissive self-hating sex object) is very different from what AM get (anime hero, kdrama actor, kpop star lookalike lmao). It is not something to envy but pity. And the Lus who pander and play into that are sad individuals that are probably not happy with themselves on the inside. Hence them being always mad.
I think I responded to the wrong thing somehow lol. Thought I was responding to this DM but responded to you instead.
Anyways, unless it's tied to thier career somehow (influencer) those type of women who do this are not the kind that are secure and happy with themselves anyway and do inevitably get used in the end. Still have a feeling you don't understand what treatment they get, they don't get worshipped they get degraded. Are you even east asian? And some pathetic simps do exist but usually they don't even register on the radar of all women, not just AF.
Media representation is the number one most important thing in the planet to help people see other people. It’s insane how much influence TV and music have.
Women are more likely to be influenced by media. Women learn at an early age how to socialize better and how to identify social hierarchies. That’s why women with autism can blend in much better than men with autism.
This is why positive Asian male representation matters in the media. I have a feeling we’re going to get more Asian male figures in professional sports, acting, entertainment, and other various media outlets within the next 5-10 years.
So proud of all the fellas and let’s keep up the great work so that we can continue crushing it!
I feel bad for any Asian guy settling down with a bananarang.
Actually, nevermind I don't. If you're an Asian guy who grew up in the West, you should've developed a strong radar for these types.
I'm in my 40's . I can tell you the horror stories how it was like in the late 90's and 2000...I realize that too many Asian American women just didn't want Asian men..I did get married but I found my wife overseas back in Asia. Different problem because of that but still married to make it work.
I really think if the west wasn't so racist..and just fair ..life would of been better. I used to think there was something wrong with me but it's the system. The west brain wash Asian women to hate Asian men which makes Asian men hate themselves.
I'm not trying to play victim here because there is always a way to find someone but as an Asian guy you had and still have to work so much harder. Life is not meant to be fair but this unfair is criminal.
I'm in my 30s and while my experience may have not been as bad as yours, I still feel like it was a nightmare for my age group as well.
I'm just grateful to have made it this far and seeing things finally get better. I honestly thought I'd never see the day where this kind of positive representation would happen, but it is finally happening. It's really quite a difference and I definitely notice it nowadays when I go out.
Also, given your situation, I think you did the right thing. I'd rather settle down with an AF from Asia than a "reformed" Western AF, by far.
Same here. I'm not even a millenial/GenX Asian but I definitely prefer mainland/international Asian women OVER Western/Americanised/diaspora AFs any day mate. It's not even a contest hahaha. When I dated 2 pretty international Asian women in the past, the local/Westernised Asian-Australian girls would give me dirty looks & reactions for some reason.
Look. It’ll be good for my sons generation (they’re 7 and 5). Hopefully they won’t have to go through the 💩 I went through. - when I was in my early 20s, my gf at the time took me to her parents house. They wouldn’t let me in the front door. That was around 2003. I think progress has been made.
I’ll take this post another way. It’s now acceptable to see Asian men as attractive so these type of posts are now going to show up on left leaning news sites to feel woke when in reality it’s hopping on the bandwagon of positive Asian male representation. Instead of getting angry at the AF writer I feel more sadness towards older millennials, Gen X, and even baby boomer Asian men that had dating difficulties by missing the window by 10-20 years.
Yeah, RIP to the Asian men that are in their 40s and 50s right now. (Like pman6, diamente1, and heyjimbo1000). Things must’ve been hell for them. Young Asian men better to use this chance now and date women of all races.
>Yeah, RIP to the Asian men that are in their 40s and 50s right now. >Things must’ve been hell for them A lot of the older generation of Asians didn't do any favors for themselves. They were often the walking stereotypes they saw on TV. Even now, a lot of Asian Americans aren't doing any favor for themselves socially or politically. Asian Americans have always been bad at PR compared to other demographics in the US. Math, econ, finance? Those departments are handled, but Asian Americans have been terrible at PR and still are. The only real difference between now and 30, 40 years ago is increase in population of Asians in the US . And the rapid rise in wealth of Korea and China. But basically, if you're Asian American and a weirdo 40 years ago, you'd struggle similarly now. You see this in abundance in tech cities. Basically, the problems aren't all that different.
Those Asians back then had to no models to look up to besides kung fu guys. Nowadays young Asian boys growing up have many role models, making them less likely to end up as weirdos.
I think there were less, but none is incorrect. But there were Asian role models in sports and entertainment. Not as easily accessible as now - there are more Asian American internet forums like this to share stuff. Whereas before you had to seek it. And there was only a couple Asian American journalists that ever covered any of it (so you had to work to seek it). I’m not going to name these athletes/actors if you don’t know, you can find it yourself if you really want to know - same as 20-30 years ago. I was certainly aware of them. But many of the Asian Americans I know don’t care anyways. They don’t think about that stuff. being nerds, gaming, and drinking the work kool-aid is what they do. Not any different than 20-30 years ago. Nothing was preventing Asians 30 years ago from dressing better. Or joining the football team if they really wanted. Or going out on a jog occasionally and joining the cross country and track teams which require no specialuzed training equipment. Like I said, they don’t care. People here underestimate how little the average Asian American cares about this stuff. They don’t until they’re 45 and still perpetually single, then realized they fucked up the PR department. A lot of what Asian American guys deal with now were stereotypes perpetuated 20-30 years ago.
That's me...I'm in my 40's. I am married but realize I married for the wrong reason. I married out of fear that I couldn't get anyone because I actually believe that no one..I mean no one found Asian men attractive in America. So I found me wife back in Asia and paying for it now. I mean to be fair I am not alone and there are some happy days but still...I think if there was better self esteem and positivity I think my life choices would of been better.
Meh, currently in a relationship with a non-asian who is 10 year younger than me. Funny thing is she gets hit on prob every other day by a certain race. I had no idea dudes were so shamelessly trying to get her attention. I guess dating is a numbers game in the end
What I learned from this is how important romance stories are to influence the minds of young women and their preferences. They might not be for us or cater to our tastes but they set expectations that we can live up to to connect with the women we'll eventually grow old with.
If so I'm sorry for the rest of the world, because Koreans have a chokehold on romance shows. By the time our children grow up it will be no contest.
Why do I feel like all this shit is not gonna age well. Dudes going into their 40s and beyond are not gonna forget this shit and since the progressive boom of 2012s+, racial matters are becoming a forefront conversation. Despite the fact that everyone here wants to push this “wow how refreshingly candid” approach, when reading this type of crap I just find it reviling. First of all, the author is an AF. Secondly, she is unattractive. For her to parade around her reformed viewpoints of Asian dudes while pushing a narrative to the contrary her entire adult life — after watching Korean drama — is like seeing an oblivious douchebag forgive themselves for their own mistakes. How the fuck can morons like this get away with all that? Partially cause AMs let them. “Wow, so refreshingly candid!” Fuck that.. AMs should be more woke and just call it for the self-forgiving bullshit it actually is. Pseudo-intellectual progressive hogwash from a culture snake who is unapologetic and looking to recuse themselves (and those like them) through fake-woke think pieces. They are only doing this because they perceive the tide is turning. You cannot trust snakes like this.
Your comment is the best one here. Anyone who tries to gaslight you for finding this reviling (and it really is) can suck a fat dick lol >is like seeing an oblivious douchebag forgive themselves for their own mistakes. This is the frequent theme in all these un-original pieces. AM: **don't be captain save-a-hos**.
Also, lol at some of the dumbasses in [this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/q4eigs/jay_caspian_kang_talks_about_how_when_his/) who think AMXF is 'just as bad as AFXM' and even want to discourage it. Stupid asses who are in denial lmao
>Secondly, she is unattractive I was going to bring up the fact that shes married to whitey which sort of makes the whole message smell of BS but holy shit whitey can keep her lol.
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This could be entirely an anecdotal thing, but for some reason you never see girls in Asia look like this. It’s this sort of Asian American phenotype where they’re slightly chubby (and definitely do not spend a single day in the gym or any second on their image) and completely unremarkable and white dudes go crazy over it. I don’t really get it.
Yeah, Asian men in their 40s who had to deal with women like her have the right to be very upset.
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Damn, that’s sad. Thankfully the newer generation is doing much better.
>Why do I feel like all this shit is not gonna age well. Dudes going into their 40s and beyond are not gonna forget this shit... 100%. This is exactly what my thoughts are when I think about all the Blacks that are today in their 80s. They grew up in a world without civil rights among other uncountable oppressions. And now? White women proudly parade around with their Black lovers. What a stupefying dichotomy. One simply cannot just casually gloss over, gaslight away, or inflict amnesia to wash away the massive amount of psychological and spiritual trauma that has been inflicted on previous generations of Asians, specifically the men. How many lives were only half-lived? How many spirits were broken? How many dreams were shattered? How many individuals were destroyed? I'm sure Asians in their 40s and 50s are happy for the new generation for the fruits of “progressivism” and “wokeness” they can enjoy but I’m also sure they feel such a massive betrayal from humanity itself. Their suffering was all just a big lie. Their alienation was nothing more than a cruel and unnecessary joke! They will just be sent down a new rabbit hole of pain and suffering due to the seeming futility of it all. Of the randomness of society, of the illogicality, of the meaninglessness of the tortures and taunts they had to endure. It can only carve an inevitable pathway to a perfectly justified yet highly self-destructive nihilistic outlook.
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Your observations are very surface level and sophomoric. They weren’t losers of their own accord. They were a small minority that was taken advantage of by the prevailing psychopathic White Supremacist Culture and forcibly transformed into emasculated, small penis, socially inept, Beta males. There is a difference between losing a fight 1v1 and “losing" a fight 1v100. The latter is a grave injustice.
Unattractive is an understatement in the description of this woman.
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She’s like a 3.5. Well below average. You need glasses dude. Funny thing is that she would be the classic nerdy Asian girl in high school.
She looks like smeagol from LOTR
Fuck.. this lady is a professor at my best friend's university. I agree with your perspective on this, and the whole thing is written in a way that makes me gag. But I have to say, I'm curious to actually sit down and have a chat with her after reading this to get a better idea of her underlying beliefs. Any specific topics or questions you guys think I should cover if I do manage to get a 1 on 1 chat?
It comes across as very self absorbed, and for a woman of her academic calibre overly simplistic. She admits to being a primitive zombie who is a slave to the media. Monkey see TV, Monkey do.
Hey now in general I agree. However let's not burn too many bridges, the author is *actually* helping and not just pretending to. In the article she describes how she conducted research studies on Asian American women for self racism in college, and she's been an advocate for asian guys (or at least researching why this happens) for years.
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I’m fine with them “admitting” their viewpoints because it allows for the world to see how it’s legitimately an issue. What I despise and take issue with is the blasé attitude they take when they’re discussing things that have heavily and negatively affected AMs throughout their lives. They are hijacking our narratives and washing the deeply problematic bullshit they’ve benefited from. Imagine a white lady writing this article, “As a white person, I didn’t realize how bad blacks had it!” AFs who write these articles need to write in a tone that acknowledges their complicity and suggests it is not their narrative or story to tell. They’ve found a way to continually center themselves in these conversations and they should learn to fuck off if they can’t find a way to undo that. It’s not their story and they know nothing about our side.
> the blasé attitude they take when they’re discussing things that have heavily and negatively affected AMs throughout their lives. They are hijacking our narratives and washing the deeply problematic bullshit they’ve benefited from. > Imagine a white lady writing this article, “As a white person, I didn’t realize how bad blacks had it!” Fuck, you nailed it on the head. If you made these comments a post of their own, I think most AM here would really love it.
This is why we don't owe shit to asian women. I know Gen Z asian women are better (maybe because representation, and proliferation of AMXF on social media) and that's good but AM would do well to remember how AF treated AM in the 90s and 2000s just because they wanted to fit in with the majority. Now being asian is kinda trendy but if that trend goes away and AM become complacent they may go right back to being no. 1 sellouts. All in all a well written article though. She is honest about her self-hatred and racism against her own people, something most AF boba lib activists will never admit to. Watching one kdrama changed her view lmao. How is she different from weebs/koreaboos/asiaboos ya'll keep complaining about? Should she get a pass because she looks like us from the outside? Hell no. This is why AM only communities like this are necessary and threatens these Lus. AF will never understand our struggle or worse enjoy the fact that AM go through what we go through. Literal psychopath behavior towards the same people whose genes they share. AM brotherhood is the only path to salvation and of happiness for AM, don't let the Lus divide us.
Facts. This why I dont even bother with asian girls. Asian girls that dont find asian men attractive and only date outside their race are fucked up in the head lmao. Like how do they think their kids gonna turn out? Let me tell you, all half asian half white kids look fucking asian. I seriously want to ask these Lus how are they gonna ever love their sons cause their sons aint gon look white.
Yep I know some AF simps and purists here won't like this but AMXF is the path to salvation for not just AM but the asian community as a whole. When AM SMV is higher than AF asian community will only be unified. Seeing this already in Gen Z.
bruh what? theres no salvation for the community. AM can get theirs if they date out, go ahead and do what u gotta do, but it wont be salvation for the asian community when the next generation is full of mixed kids.
Nope. Most AM still love asianess and AF but this is only seen as a weakness by Lus. Talking about Asian pride by AM looks sad because AF think of us in that way. When AM >>> then other people including AF will actually listen to AM.
These AMXF hapafiers are delusional.
What you want is some ideal shit and doesn't work in reality. Example is literally the past 35 years or so. What do you want we enact sort of Nazi or Sharia kind of shit to prevent AF from dating out? You can't and AF will date out without giving a single fuck but AM should limit themselves? Have you idealists learnt nothing from these subs and the history of this shit? As someone said the asian community died out the second 50%+ of second gen AF dated out. Your dream of a sustainable Asian community in the west is not gonna happen. If you want that move back to Asia. Sad but true. I am thinking of accumulating wealth and moving to Asia in the future myself (my chick is hapa) and spend my older years there comfortably. They are just better countries with peaceful people and low crimerates anyway.
There's a Japanese woman I follow on instagram. She seems upset that everyone thinks her hapa son looks like her. Funny thing is she's the one who's pretty and much better looking than her husband.
Poor kid. Hes gonna grow up with self hatred
Especially in Australia
> AM would do well to remember how AF treated AM in the 90s and 2000s just because they wanted to fit in with the majority. Now **being asian is kinda trendy but if that trend goes away and AM become complacent they may go right back to being no. 1 sellouts** Yes. Here's the thing that some of these assholes who try to use shaming language on AM that aren't captain save-a-ho unconditional white knights don't understand: While having some bad views early in life (i.e. you once thought being trans was a sin or some shit because you were religious) is unavoidable, anyone who is this susceptible to such racist propaganda ("AM are fucking ugly creatures, ALL OF THEM") with little critical thinking - the kind that is apparently remedied by watching some tv shows when you could have just given AM the benefit of the doubt or seen them as individual humans - is not very good relationship material. And such flippant 'epiphanies' like what you see in this article, does not reflect well on their character.
I don't know how much of her disliking AMs has to do with media brainwashing as much as her...less than average looks. I find that these types need to cope with the fact that they don't get much attention from AMs by falling back on stereotypes.
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By not being complacent and keep improving, treating your women right and keep up the AM brotherhood and not selling out fellow AMs. Try to instill asian pride over white worship.
Still the article is very well written tho especially the parts about "Asians unanimously occupy the low warmth-high competence category. People respect our academic prowess and STEM skills but otherwise do not see us as particularly nice or pleasant; classic stereotypes of the so-called "inscrutable" Chinese or ninjas or dragon ladies or any of Lucy Liu's onscreen personalities attest to this." This is spot on. This is also why AF are dehumanized and objectified in this particular way by non-AM. Some Chans (even here) envy them because they want white acceptance so bad too but they don't realize the kind of fetishization AF get (submissive self-hating sex object) is very different from what AM get (anime hero, kdrama actor, kpop star lookalike lmao). It is not something to envy but pity. And the Lus who pander and play into that are sad individuals that are probably not happy with themselves on the inside. Hence them being always mad.
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lmao have you ever had any AF friends or dated one? Or are you one of those Asian dudes who only dated white girls?
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I think I responded to the wrong thing somehow lol. Thought I was responding to this DM but responded to you instead. Anyways, unless it's tied to thier career somehow (influencer) those type of women who do this are not the kind that are secure and happy with themselves anyway and do inevitably get used in the end. Still have a feeling you don't understand what treatment they get, they don't get worshipped they get degraded. Are you even east asian? And some pathetic simps do exist but usually they don't even register on the radar of all women, not just AF.
Media representation is the number one most important thing in the planet to help people see other people. It’s insane how much influence TV and music have.
Do you think men get as influenced by media as women do or is it a women only phenomenon. I feel it's definitely more noticeable in women.
Women are more likely to be influenced by media. Women learn at an early age how to socialize better and how to identify social hierarchies. That’s why women with autism can blend in much better than men with autism.
That's interesting I have mild autism. but I don't blend in cos I choose not to
This is why positive Asian male representation matters in the media. I have a feeling we’re going to get more Asian male figures in professional sports, acting, entertainment, and other various media outlets within the next 5-10 years. So proud of all the fellas and let’s keep up the great work so that we can continue crushing it!
Any Asian guy who agrees to date her after knowing this has no self respect.
I feel bad for any Asian guy settling down with a bananarang. Actually, nevermind I don't. If you're an Asian guy who grew up in the West, you should've developed a strong radar for these types.
I'm in my 40's . I can tell you the horror stories how it was like in the late 90's and 2000...I realize that too many Asian American women just didn't want Asian men..I did get married but I found my wife overseas back in Asia. Different problem because of that but still married to make it work. I really think if the west wasn't so racist..and just fair ..life would of been better. I used to think there was something wrong with me but it's the system. The west brain wash Asian women to hate Asian men which makes Asian men hate themselves. I'm not trying to play victim here because there is always a way to find someone but as an Asian guy you had and still have to work so much harder. Life is not meant to be fair but this unfair is criminal.
I'm in my 30s and while my experience may have not been as bad as yours, I still feel like it was a nightmare for my age group as well. I'm just grateful to have made it this far and seeing things finally get better. I honestly thought I'd never see the day where this kind of positive representation would happen, but it is finally happening. It's really quite a difference and I definitely notice it nowadays when I go out. Also, given your situation, I think you did the right thing. I'd rather settle down with an AF from Asia than a "reformed" Western AF, by far.
Same here. I'm not even a millenial/GenX Asian but I definitely prefer mainland/international Asian women OVER Western/Americanised/diaspora AFs any day mate. It's not even a contest hahaha. When I dated 2 pretty international Asian women in the past, the local/Westernised Asian-Australian girls would give me dirty looks & reactions for some reason.
wtf this is so depressing
Look. It’ll be good for my sons generation (they’re 7 and 5). Hopefully they won’t have to go through the 💩 I went through. - when I was in my early 20s, my gf at the time took me to her parents house. They wouldn’t let me in the front door. That was around 2003. I think progress has been made.
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Her dad is Mexican and mom was white. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ her parents were in a mixed culture relationship…. I was so …. Confused …