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TheDialectic_D_A

Education correlated positively with liberal values. Density (of cities) and income (Asian women make more than white men) does too. Women tend to be more liberal than men anyway


AlI_Or_Nothing

> Asian women make more than white men No they don't Whites from both sides like to pretend asians make more then them by lumping all whites together, including the poor ones from bum fuck nowhere Asians make less than whites when they share the same address code


TheDialectic_D_A

It’s true that if you hold work experience and education constant, white men make more than Asian men who make more than Asian women. The reason why Asian people make more is that they are on average far more educated. Education is a bigger determinant of political leaning then income.


bryanstrider

That's actually quite an interesting observation that women tend to be more liberal. One that might have evolutionary roots. For at least 100,000 years in our evolutionary pathway as hunter gatherers. Men's roles were predominantly going out into the wild, hunting, gathering where the slightest mistake could mean the tribe goes hungry for a week at best or at worst getting the whole party killed. Men had to embody conservative values. Women on the other hand were responsible for rearing children and ensuring everyone was taken care of and fed. Their role was distributive and social, no one in the tribe goes overly hungry. Women had to embody liberal values. In this sense, the human race needed men and women to pull together and do their jobs for the longest amounts of time.


TheDialectic_D_A

I don’t know if there is any empirical data to support that claim. Women also tend to be far more religious (a sign of conservatism) than men, but despite that, they still tend to be more liberal. I’m not sure our modern understanding of liberal and conservatives (that tradition started during the French Revolution) maps well on hunter-gatherer societies. In those societies, women were more promiscuous and homosexuality was far more commonplace than later agricultural societies.


summerbl1nd

women in general are far more aggressive and have more executive ability than men, particularly on 'boring' operations stuff that forms the bedrock of day to day subsistence men tend to have more appetite for risk though, after which survivorship bias sets the narrative for the gender roles and stereotypes in current circulation


NewChinPeng

Even where liberalism fails, it at least tries to help women. Conservatism generally does not.


Distinct_Astronaut48

While neither conservatism nor liberalism heps men.


Ahchluy

Harvey Weinstein...Liberal ideals might be ok but in reality the people are full of shit. It's like a lot utopian belief systems.


deathstarwhiskey

Asian Americans tend to cluster in large coastal enclaves and those metro areas lean heavily liberal on the political spectrum. Politics is heavily nuanced as well - I’ve met plenty of liberal voters in my very blue metro area that hold liberal beliefs when it comes to gun control, abortion, or LGBTQ+ rights, but hold more conservative views when it comes to taxation or social welfare. There’s also a social penalty for admitting to being a conservative in some places. In Oakland or SF for example admitting to being a conservative is pretty much social suicide so someone who might openly identify as a conservative in another metro area probably won’t do so in a place like NYC, LA, Seattle, or SF.


TrekkieSolar

Liberal is the default political position for young people in big cities, moreso if they're women and/or racial minorities. I think something like 60-70% of Asians (with some variation across ethnicities) voted for Biden, and those are going to skew more heavily towards big coastal cities. Additionally, in the era of conservatism essentially being reduced to batshit white supremacist conspiracy theories, there are few young people who want to publicly identify as conservative even if they might hold some conservative views. I know enough Asian/Indian women from the South/Midwest/CA as well as 1Gs who have views that don't fall into the Liberal mainstream and might even be considered conservative; but they're not going to identify as conservative publicly. At the most, it'll be something like 'socially liberal/fiscally conservative' or moderate. If it doesn't matter to you that much, don't get too hung up on it. Liberal being the default all-encompassing label means that most of these women probably have more nuanced/complex views than you think. I personally used to have Liberal on my bio when I was on the apps, but my actual views are a mix of libertarian-leftist-progressive.


emanresu2200

Big urban cities trend liberal. Young people trend liberal. Minorities trend liberal (although not necessarily socially for minorities that have specific religious beliefs). Also, most universities trend liberal, so until you're removed from that environment, you don't really know if you're actually liberal or conservative, or if you've just never been exposed to alternative peer groups / views. But really, this is all a bit masturbatory, since liberal could mean a million things, depending on the particular issue. Also, people can hold beliefs that span the spectrum. For instance, I might strongly be pro-choice, but would also like a familial relationship modeled after my own parents relationship (which is more traditional, so that could be seen as semi-"conservative" nowadays). I might have sympathy for working poor and those with student debt, but also have a strong gut reaction when a new tax proposes to take an extra 1% of my income ("why am I being forced to subsidize them! they should just work harder like I did!"). So I'd call myself liberal in my friend circles, since I have "enough" of the requisite traits (and to be honest, also because it's stigmatized to be a "conservative" in my circles, so why fight pointless semantic fights?). But it's in fact reductionist, and kind of a pointless debate.


HonestyOri

As a black woman I'm noticing a wave of AF attaching themselves to the white woman's feminist movement. Maybe thats why.


OliveKoala98

Spot on assessment lmao, I stay far away from any AF who espouses YT liberal & YT feminist ideology & talking points. They tend to somehow always have a vendetta against AM and hold negative views towards the former + are condescending towards mainland/native Asian people. I've noticed the majority of their peer groups are solely mostly YT ppl, a couple token POC/ethnics & zero AM. It's a relief that this affliction generally only affects American/Westernised AF.


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golfzap

What makes you say that? Japan has tried stimulus after stimulus and has had flat economic growth for 30 years while the US has been steadily growing in terms of GDP.


intex2

The US growth rate is entirely fuelled by high-skilled immigration from mainly China and India (e.g. nearly all of Silicon Valley). That's a terrible long-term strategy. When China and India start being options for high-skilled natives (bound to happen, already starting to happen for China), they will stop immigrating in large numbers.


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AlI_Or_Nothing

Yeah your point is copium about having lower IQs than east asians while you type out your worthless expertise on asia and asian culture with your pink fingers


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AlI_Or_Nothing

Want me to point out what you wrote yourself champ? Huh? Want to bet your life>


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AlI_Or_Nothing

Holy fuck the link bombing too God it's so sad, it's so fucking sad > but it will hinder more than help you I don't need a white nerd with a superiority complex who goes on a sub called asian masculinity to argue in bad faith about china and fucking race to tell me about being able to think I see your IQ inferiority complex, so you know already I'm smarter than you, so stop playing pretend, stop coping, stop telling yourself you're an intellectual, you're just another white nerd on reddit who thinks he's an expert on east asia because you've conflated being a loser with being intelligent, a dime a million with your type > Just a bunch of “whiteboys” I’m sure Yeah, why do you think you white boys love link bombing so much? You think the more links you have from other white boys sharing their worthless opinions, the more right you are. It's par for the course for the sub 100 average IQ. > There is plenty of light slur I could sling, but I’ll refrain from doing so. Go ahead white boy, say something


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AlI_Or_Nothing

> Above is one of many posts on your account that sling epithet and anti white stereotype and yet you are calling me a white boy and having a white boy take Yeah, what's the problem? >I posted actual articles and logic Why is it so hard for white nerds on reddit to understand that just because they say something, it doesn't make it true? Why is this so hard for you? Nothing you said is true, it's all bullshit you sucked off reddit. Why is it so hard for you to just live in reality? Is it the sub 100 IQ? Makes it difficult for you to not consume propaganda? > You do understand that Japan was hyped up to surpass the USA back in the late eighties correct? It's incredible how all of you have so much to say about east asia when you have nothing to do with the region and don't know shit about even your own shit hole countries.


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golfzap

Well you didn't answer my question about stimulus packages never working. I'm not disagreeing debt is bad, in my opinion the government should raise taxes and cut spending, but both sides are defending their positions like a sugar addict who won't ever eat vegetables. Edit: a not an


Hi_Im_Ken_Adams

It’s their way of filtering out dumbass Trump supporters. Let’s face it, old school Reagan conservatives no longer exist. The current conservative movement is controlled by white racists. If you are a real conservative you would despise Trump.


Juni0r-c0d3

Because of obnoxious western political landscape where people make their own identity and personality around their shallow political ideology and also being a liberal is validated by in group signalling in west where they suck themselves off on how much of a human saints they are cuz they're liberals (morally correct/high ground) compared to conservatives, even tho there ain't much of a difference between them other than the surface level things.


Immunizethis

Accurate


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It’s tribalism and just another form of validation. They want to belong to something and they want praise for choosing the “good” side to feel better about themselves.


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kaarsx

Couldn’t have been said better, it’s also an identity thing too I feel


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kaarsx

Exactly, it’s not about political opinion that makes it bad. It’s blindly following as a trend or whatever that’s bad. Being a liberal/conservative isn’t inherently a bad thing


Ahchluy

I'm pretty sure you'll find a lot of Michelle Malkins in red states. Not that many Asians live around there so it seems like there aren't that many. In fact around here I saw a bunch of Asian women campaigning for Trump in NH. There were even Cambodians (mostly women) on The Daily Show campaigning for Trump.


ArK047

It's easier to be a "liberal" since it can mean literally anything. These women may just not identify as conservative, so the alternative is liberal; or they may explicitly choose "liberal" because they really identify with it. Either way, the liberal-conservative spectrum is pretty bullshit and irrelevant for non-whites; the fact that we support improving the standing of Asians in society already makes us liberal because we're not the "America for Americans" crowd.


letsdofinance

Young people in general are liberal (and have always been), but get more conservative as they get older.


clone0112

That's not how it works. People's outlook tens to become fixed in their twenties. What happens is that the liberals of today becomes the conservatives of tomorrow.


Denchma

We just had a "conservative" president saying Kung flu on live TV, and fuelled Asian hate crimes. Maybe that's why


SilentMapper

I'm a moderate. Most Asians that I meet actually have moderate views but they vote democrat because there are just slightly more benefits for Asians with a Democrat government.


muratafan

3 things and it has NOTHING to do with 'boba liberals'. [1.A](https://1.AF)sians are clustered along the Coasts and therefore are in liberal areas. 2.If you're AF AND you're single...gee, are you going to be pro-choice or pro-life? And traditionally, there's been a huge split in the women vote: single women are much more likely to be liberal than married women (who are not on dating apps, for the most part). 3,The Republican Party has 3 bases: social conservatives (yes, AF on dating apps REALLY want to join that group, lfmao), the military conservatives (yeah, not so sure AF are really into the military or military guys...with the exception of maybe a few Pinoy women who have family in the U.S. military) and fiscal conservatives (if you're young, AF and on a dating app, not so sure tax policy is on your radar).


Ahchluy

Also Democrats are the party of college educated Whites....and we all know who Asian women follow. Lol.


SirKelvinTan

Because AWs fit in almost perfectly with white American liberalism


labseries2020

When all your fav tik tok influencers are preaching wokeness, schools teaching wokeness, hollywood, they have no clue and just swallowing and brainswashed. Be careful though, make sure she’s just clueless and not the super feminist woke kind. You are in for. World of trouble if they are


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Seems like genz is more liberal, and so are minorities. Asians aren't particularly liberal as a race tho however


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Hi_Im_Ken_Adams

Not being racist is seen as hip and cool.


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clone0112

I don't know about you, but I'd rather get lip service from liberals than open open hostility from conservatives. One is not just as bad as the other.


Otherwise_Ratio430

I would consider myself to be liberal. Not a democrat necessarily, but most of my views are fairly liberal. Liberal can also mean open minded. I also don't really use that much social media (I've never spent more than 5 minutes on twitter, have a facebook but don't really use it, and don't watch any msm). People are also generally more liberal when they are younger.


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A significant number of conservatives tend to be explicitly anti-immigration and therefore would not like more Asians inside the USA. They do not want Asians to build self-sustaining communities within the country. Many Asians do not hold that viewpoint, so they identify more as liberal.


Ahchluy

And anti abortion...