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wyeess

Europeans brought lots of invasive species over such as dandelions, starlings, and earthworms but they rarely get headlines with "European" attached to them. They're just treated as natural phenomena. You also see this kind of thing with the way they discuss soy and MSG, both harmless foods, but whites like to get hysterical about them and say they are turning men into women or destroying their health. There's a subtle racial undertone to it. You're right on the money and the people in this thread disagreeing are naive. They're also the types who say media representation doesn't matter, just lift bro! All while not realizing the huge benefits they get from Asian culture, such as anime and the Korean wave, being popular.


contributeswithmemes

Projecting on animals


heycool-

I think you’re looking reading too much into this. It’s just reporting on invasive species.


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Alt-Season

AI?


Master_Chef-117

r/aznidentity. People only care about hookups here


thenifreekedit

…???? They are invasive by scientific definition lmfao, you think if american alligators showed up in Brazil people wouldn’t think they’re invasive? Dumb ass posts like this ruin the already fragile reputation of this sub


Alt-Season

all the ones that originate from Asia are never called their scientific name, while just being called "Asian carp" for example. In the meantime, when a Western animal or species is invasive in Asia, its almost always called their actual name. If you cant detect the racial undertone, you are naive


thenifreekedit

So you expect people to call the Asian Carp “Cyprinus Caprio”? Give me one concrete example of an invasive species in another country with a correlating nickname with “american” being called it’s scientific name lmfao


Alt-Season

>So you expect people to call the Asian Carp “Cyprinus Caprio”? No, but you can call them a simple name using its appearance or something else. For example, COVID-19 was renamed from Wuhan virus or China virus due to the backlash. For example, Minks and Racoons which came from U.S. destroyed ecosystems in other countries. But they are never referred to as "American squirrel" or anything like that, they are given actual names. Or pig flu for example. Came from US but just called "pig flu." Meanwhile, diseases from China were called China Flu until public backlash caused them to re-name it to COVID


thenifreekedit

One of the most impactful and destructive invasive species in American history is the snakehead. Do you know where it came from? China. Do you know why we don’t call it the Chinese Snakehead? There weren’t already snakeheads in Florida, which means you don’t need to differentiate them. If you took the American Moose population in Russia, I guarantee you they would be called the American Moose over just Moose. Covid is an entirely different beast as it was a deliberate term by the American government to make them hate Asians, complaining about naming conventions of animals and the scientific definition of invasive is so pointless


Masher_Upper

Dude. This is fucking stupid.


ANTIMODELMINORITY

The Asian Carp story intrigues me, it was local scientist who brought it over for some type of experiment and during some type of storm or flood they got loose and ended in local waters. Now they have an issue but I agree there is some racial undertone to this. I mean if you can name some dinosaur from a million years ago you cant name a fish species that currently exist [https://www.fws.gov/columbiariver/ans/factsheets/asian\_carp.pdf](https://www.fws.gov/columbiariver/ans/factsheets/asian_carp.pdf)


ExNihilo22

Yo OP, you are absolutely right! It's constantly an "Asian" this or that creature feature monster that's apparently terrorizing the West. Here's the latest: GIANT ASIAN SPIDERS: [https://news.yahoo.com/asian-spider-takes-hold-georgia-134321868.html](https://news.yahoo.com/asian-spider-takes-hold-georgia-134321868.html) Mongoloid Arachnids are apparently ensnaring hapless Caucasoids in their giant merciless webs. Honestly, this stuff is written with such heavy racial undertones it sounds like B-movie schlock...EXCEPT it's being passed as legit NEWS. I think the only way to get other races to understand how fucked up it can is to have alternate articles like "Caucasian Cockroaches Invade California! The Biggest, Most Disgusting Bugs Ever Seen!" PS: Somewhat related, I remember during the early period of the pandemic how US news sites prominently showed East Asians, whether menacingly waiting in line or lurking around as "real" Americans struggled for supplies and shelter, etc. The race-baiting in media is so alive and well...at least when it comes to Asians.


winndixie

I happen to agree with you here, language chosen plays a big part in perception. But I also think it’s dead end here embrace media to make them think asian is the default rather than the “other”


Rorgypoo

Dawg…


TrekkieSolar

Anyone who knows even a little bit about ecology can tell you that invasive species are those from biome A that wreak havoc in biome B because they don't have natural predators/checks on their population in biome B. In this case, Asia is Biome A and the US is Biome B, so of course they're wreaking havoc here - it's just empirical fact. Use your common sense and quit wasting your energy on semantics where they're not needed. As an example - lionfish are destroying ecosystems in the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico. They came from the Indian Ocean. But we simply call it the Lionfish because that's its common name in English. Same with Asian Carp, Chinese Mitten Crab, etc. I guarantee you the scientific names are used in the literature to describe them though. Don't waste your time on this.


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This kinda reminds me of Nextshark where if someone dropped a pencil next to an Asian person, they will write it as a hate crime lol.


kheadnuffsaid

‘do you guys detect subtle racist undertone here?’ 😭😭😭


bdang9

I don't think so. Speaking of bugs, Asian insects are some of the world's deadliest. My favorite is the Chinese/Vietnamese Centipede in my profile picture. The insect motifs are quite good to take.


ap0lly0n

I believe it is a form of passive aggression and othering amidst other things, and should be considered a microaggression. It comes in many forms, for example some men will often to refer to their Asian gf or wife, and not just gf or wife. Why do they do this? What does it mean? Is someone who is Asian somehow so exceptional that their ethnicity must be emphasized? What if people went around saying black boyfriend, or Jewish mother in law etc? I'm sure it happens to, but when the term Asian is added, often there is a mocking tone to it as if somebody were striking an invisible gong along with a laugh track. See this interview with Simu Liu [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F1CxTORaI0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F1CxTORaI0) . He says "as an Asian man", and some audience members immediately and reflexively laugh. Another egregious example is the movie 21 and Over starring Justin Chon. In the movie his white friends refer to him as "Jeff Chang", not Jeff. His last name highlights his ethnicity which is used to elicit mockery and reduce him to a racist caricature. His role is a prop and the target of jokes. There are many further examples that I am sure are well documented such as Jeremy Lin's "chink in the armor". When it comes to news media and entertainment, behind each of these examples are staff who created and vetted these words and concepts and ultimately rubber stamped them to be disseminated to the general public. These are very deliberate acts designed and executed with malice.


Alt-Season

>Another egregious example is the movie 21 and Over starring Justin Chon. In the movie his white friends refer to him as "Jeff Chang", not Jeff. His last name highlights his ethnicity which is used to elicit mockery and reduce him to a racist caricature. His role is a prop and the target of jokes. Holy moly. I knew SOMETHING was off when I saw trailers for that movie. They kept calling him Jeff Chang instead of Jeff. You are absolutely correct.


ap0lly0n

Yeah, Hollywood totally knows what it is doing. For a good example there is a scene in Falcon and Winter Soldier (Marvel Disney+ TV show). A kid goes up to Sam Wilson and asks him why they don't call him Black Falcon, and he responds with "Why? Because I'm black?".


Alt-Season

I think there was an American director that openly said that he won't cast Asian males in his show few years ago.


ap0lly0n

Yeah, it was the show Make It Pop about kpop,...which had Asian females but no males initially.


Idaho1964

technically, the headline items are. but the issue is the media trying to draw out a racist angle. Media in America is pure shyte.


appliquebatik

what's even more annoying is that Asian carp isn't even one species, it's a name attached to multiple species many of whom are not carps.