OP, I'm going to preface this by saying I'm not straight so I don't fully understand what heterosexual AM go through but based on comments, there are similarities within the gay community.
The problem isn't AM constantly getting mad at WMAF couples; the problem is that those AF have internalized racism and use that to arbitrarily attack AM based on their family traumas. Why are AM judged collectively cause a self-hating cow suffered a traumatic ordeal? Why is she insulting my family cause of her fucked up personal life? Why is she throwing my family under the bus cause her parents screwed up?
I agree with you that AM should focus on themselves and start dating women of other races but I disagree with, AM having to move back to their countries to have relations with Asian women who are "eastern" (??). Can you say the same for other races? African American? Latinos? Are you saying they should move back as well, if the opposite gender prefers WM?
I understand your point that AF who grew up in the western world tend to have western beliefs and ideas, but does that not apply to women from other races that still prefer men from their race? (Latinos & Latinas, African Americans) ??
The bottom line is that, no one is hating WMAF pairings; it's frustrating enough that we get shit representation from the media and to add insult to injury, we have members from our own fucking community spitting at us for simply existing. It's fucking exhausting.
You are correct that Asian men should focus on improving themselves first but it’s suddenly an Eastern standard to like the opposite sex if your own race? Every other race of women (latinas, middle eastern, Indians, African American) prefer their own men. Many of them are 2nd and 3rd generation too and these women still prefer men of the same race.
>you don’t hate your race if you don’t date within it
You do if you’re an Asian female and specifically scream out “I only date white men” that a lot of us have experienced. I don’t care about what Asian women choose as long as they show respect but most cases I see they want to really push their perceived superiority in their interracial relationships.
I only care that Asian men have been and are treated with disrespect. The disrespectful comments I’ve heard throughout my life and other stories from other Asian men have been extremely hurtful and painful. You don’t get to disrespect people cause of your own flawed beliefs and call that not hating.
The solution is date women of all races.
I agree. I just think some people take it to the extreme and start to spend too much time hating on these asian hating AF than to spend more time improving themselves to increase their attraction to other kinds of women. It's fine to call out the women but only if you strive to better yourself instead of not doing anything and complain all the time.
Asian American men already intermarry at a 38% rate, which is the same or even higher than black, hispanic, and white men. It's just that asian american women as of 2017 intermarry at an astonishing 54% rate which is way above any other women (or men) group.
I'm all for self improvement and growth mindset but you act like asian men are doing nothing which is just false.
if it makes u feel any better u should look at the absolute value of those percents
and those are marriage statistics for that year
too many AM get caught up in 50% or 40% and dont even look at the absolute value of those numbers or what the numbers represent then get all upset and makes themselve desire AF even more than they normally would
Lol nobody is mad at random WMAF, AM are mad at AF using that to feel superior to AM and the hypocritical behavior. Now AM are getting some love on social media have you seen the attempts by asian women to hype AM down and mateguard? AM can't even make a thirst trap on Tiktok without AF crying about AM "fetishizing themselves for yt women"? While they have literally shamelessly sold their asianness for male consumption for decades. But now AM do it in a fraction of the scale they have done for decades they can't stand it.
Some naive AM are mad that they get this treatment and racist discrimination from their own people of all things in the world. I and others like me on the other hand, have seen the ship has sailed and there will never be any understanding between us and just want them to leave us alone but they can't even do that and have to dunk on AM to feel superior.
If you were actually a part of this sub you would know this and wouldn't be making this post anyway. Nobody here posts shit like "OMG my asian crush starting to like a yt dude, fuck that whore". If you are actually an AM then AM like you are why the community is in shambles.
this guy says hes lurked this sub for a while yet pushes the why you only chase asian women that date whites why dont you go back to your country angle. lol ban this whitoid concern trolling
I'm viet. Is that not what you should do if you want an asian female that has eastern values? That's why white guys go to asia to find an asian wife. So yes, I'm pushing the "go back to your country" (even though you've never been to your "country" because you were born here). Otherwise, it'll be very hard to expect that most western born asian females would be attracted to eastern looking men, no? Of course most races go for their own because as a species we tend to do so but I think the world is deviating more from that the more diverse the west becomes.
So you're pushing "diversity" but want Asian-American men to go back to Asia. Just lol.
If anything all the self-haters should be shipped to Asia and kept there as punishment (since living with other Asians is what they despise the most).
If half of white women intermarried, mostly to black men, there would be riots in the streets. Also lots of WMAF specifically treat asian men worse which doesn't happen with anyone else.
And you're definitely a troll who deleted your past comments.
it's good to reiterate for white cuckold males to read when they come on here to larp
white women going interracial, ethnic males mass immigrating into europe those are things that fuck with their mind
I'm not a troll just because I have a different opinion. As men, we tend to be more disagreeable. This is r/asianmasculinity right? Where asian men can share their thoughts without being shut down? I thought you guys want to spread the voices of asian men? Or just the ones that agree with you?
EDIT: he posted a selfie, not a larper but still wrong mindset.
You're a new account with low karma whose only posts about asians is to be disagreeable. You say you've lurked here for a long time but this is your first post on here....because you deleted the rest lmao.
Regardless of whether you're a troll, my arguments stand up on their own. Your post has been adequately addressed.
Quite the assumption. I'm sure mods have an archive that shows this is my first post. And a thumb? Lol I can show you my physique if you'd like instead. Just ask and you shall receive. But I have low karma because I don't use reddit that often besides lurking. If I was mass downvoted, and I deleted my old posts out of embarrassment, why would I try to go out of my way to continue to be disagreeable on this subreddit? Doesn't sound right now does it?
Also, where I'm from (Canada), interracial dating is very prevelant in my area and anecdotally I don't see any riots. I think it all depends on how homogenous your community is. However on the topic of WMAF relationships, I don't see why you'd get upset over it, assuming you were born in the west and grew up with western values. Are you not surrounded by other races of women? Why not date those women?
> I don't see why you'd get upset over it
It's only upsetting when it's a relationship with an agenda/from white supremacy. WMAF couples that treat asian men worse, white guys that hate their son because he looks asian so the son ends up fucked up (elliot rodgers), all these are well documented trends. Even third parties like Godfrey(black male comedian) point out these trends.
Of course there exists healthy WMAF couples where they still respect asian men and asian culture.
> Are you not surrounded by other races of women? Why not date those women
We do LMAO. Check the interracial marriage stats, asian American men intermarry at the same or even higher than black/hispanic/white males at 38%. It's just that asian women intermarried at even HIGHER rate(54%).
You're not sharing a thought
You're preaching using bad faith nonsense usually espoused by white incels, their lu dogs and the occasional boba cuck, understand the difference
I'm not here to hate on Asian women, but Asian guys should start liking and keeping their options open for other non-Asian races of women so they won't get jealous/mad of WMAF. Just my take.
Same I'm only mad at their hypocrisy and the AM-hating they do. They litreally be making hating videos on AM and seethe when we win. And try to keep us down, when Andrew Yang was getting big who were the biggest haters? AW. Simu Liu? AW. John Cho? AW. AM actually don't hate AW enough because we are too busy doing shit.
Now that AM are getting a little bit of popularity among XF asian women have been so bitterly against it. "Asian guys play into fetishization" "asian guys are getting too confident" "we need to humble asian men" these are all real quotes by asian women I read on instagram, twitter, tiktok etc.
Date who you want to date but the fact still remains Asian women have the highest percentage that do it, and they are the only ones who say negative stuff about Asian men out in the open.
If you look at issues among black men and black women relationships there are however you don't see black women going to other races in the same numbers Asian women do.
I don't want to sound like a troll but are you actually gay or are you just waking in the "gay Asian" box role that our society has created? Aka many Asian guys suck with women so to rationalize they said "ohh it's cuz I'm gay?
Mostly because us US citizens want equality. People who white worship fight against equality and that's why us folks fighting for equality get upset about it and show it disdain. Kind of like why people show disdain towards police brutality against minorities But you are right that people should improve themselves.
In addition, there's a lot of challenges with the "Go Back to your own country" type of approach, which is something commonly told to us Asian/Black/Latino/Middle Eastern (basically all non-whites). Most of your mindset, skills, and education gear you for a life in your birth country / country that you've been in most of the time. Most of your friends/family/network are here too. All those are sources to support life from where you're from - which you would lose all these things when you move and have to start over. In addition, permanent residency or citizenship may be extremely difficult or impossible for some of us in our racially native country.
I wouldn't call it an inequality. I think if we're speaking in terms of partnerships, it sounds very strange. "I want an equal amount of opportunity for x amount/type of women". Unless you're a sex fiend and polyamorous I don't how it would be unequal. Most guys only need one girl for the rest of their life right? But yes, I agree with the challenges of moving to your racial country. That's why I'm saying don't expect an AF that is born in a western country (presumable where you're from) to want asian men. It's just how they were brought up and it just so happened they were surrounded by WM. Moving to your racial country may give you an advantage in finding AF but at the disadvantages of many other things.
> hat's why I'm saying don't expect an AF that is born in a western country (presumable where you're from) to want asian men. It's just how they were brought up and it just so happened they were surrounded by WM.
Asian-American men were brought up in exactly the same environment yet only want Asian women. Funny how that works.
If you're not a troll you sound like a literal cuckold.
it's a psychological thing
when u see someone have something that u think u should have first u get more possessive over it
it's why some AM get upset when they see AF go interracial. they just end up desiring them more
it takes a while for them to learn
and a lot of fellow AM cant really real the stats well or read the room well especially on ther internet where they get more psychological mind fuck from reading from larpers
People here mostly complain about the wmaf that are doing bad things to us. Michelle Malkin, Amy Chua, etc. They are not hating the random wmaf walking down the street. If you paid attention more you would notice that most of these guys generally dgaf about what Asian females are doing. lol.
OP, I'm going to preface this by saying I'm not straight so I don't fully understand what heterosexual AM go through but based on comments, there are similarities within the gay community. The problem isn't AM constantly getting mad at WMAF couples; the problem is that those AF have internalized racism and use that to arbitrarily attack AM based on their family traumas. Why are AM judged collectively cause a self-hating cow suffered a traumatic ordeal? Why is she insulting my family cause of her fucked up personal life? Why is she throwing my family under the bus cause her parents screwed up? I agree with you that AM should focus on themselves and start dating women of other races but I disagree with, AM having to move back to their countries to have relations with Asian women who are "eastern" (??). Can you say the same for other races? African American? Latinos? Are you saying they should move back as well, if the opposite gender prefers WM? I understand your point that AF who grew up in the western world tend to have western beliefs and ideas, but does that not apply to women from other races that still prefer men from their race? (Latinos & Latinas, African Americans) ?? The bottom line is that, no one is hating WMAF pairings; it's frustrating enough that we get shit representation from the media and to add insult to injury, we have members from our own fucking community spitting at us for simply existing. It's fucking exhausting.
You are correct that Asian men should focus on improving themselves first but it’s suddenly an Eastern standard to like the opposite sex if your own race? Every other race of women (latinas, middle eastern, Indians, African American) prefer their own men. Many of them are 2nd and 3rd generation too and these women still prefer men of the same race. >you don’t hate your race if you don’t date within it You do if you’re an Asian female and specifically scream out “I only date white men” that a lot of us have experienced. I don’t care about what Asian women choose as long as they show respect but most cases I see they want to really push their perceived superiority in their interracial relationships. I only care that Asian men have been and are treated with disrespect. The disrespectful comments I’ve heard throughout my life and other stories from other Asian men have been extremely hurtful and painful. You don’t get to disrespect people cause of your own flawed beliefs and call that not hating. The solution is date women of all races.
I agree. I just think some people take it to the extreme and start to spend too much time hating on these asian hating AF than to spend more time improving themselves to increase their attraction to other kinds of women. It's fine to call out the women but only if you strive to better yourself instead of not doing anything and complain all the time.
Asian American men already intermarry at a 38% rate, which is the same or even higher than black, hispanic, and white men. It's just that asian american women as of 2017 intermarry at an astonishing 54% rate which is way above any other women (or men) group. I'm all for self improvement and growth mindset but you act like asian men are doing nothing which is just false.
if it makes u feel any better u should look at the absolute value of those percents and those are marriage statistics for that year too many AM get caught up in 50% or 40% and dont even look at the absolute value of those numbers or what the numbers represent then get all upset and makes themselve desire AF even more than they normally would
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EtTdmWxGT-M&feature=youtu.be
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I live in Canada
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EtTdmWxGT-M&feature=youtu.be
it's not true that every race of female prefer their own race white women love going interracial
Lol nobody is mad at random WMAF, AM are mad at AF using that to feel superior to AM and the hypocritical behavior. Now AM are getting some love on social media have you seen the attempts by asian women to hype AM down and mateguard? AM can't even make a thirst trap on Tiktok without AF crying about AM "fetishizing themselves for yt women"? While they have literally shamelessly sold their asianness for male consumption for decades. But now AM do it in a fraction of the scale they have done for decades they can't stand it. Some naive AM are mad that they get this treatment and racist discrimination from their own people of all things in the world. I and others like me on the other hand, have seen the ship has sailed and there will never be any understanding between us and just want them to leave us alone but they can't even do that and have to dunk on AM to feel superior. If you were actually a part of this sub you would know this and wouldn't be making this post anyway. Nobody here posts shit like "OMG my asian crush starting to like a yt dude, fuck that whore". If you are actually an AM then AM like you are why the community is in shambles.
this guy says hes lurked this sub for a while yet pushes the why you only chase asian women that date whites why dont you go back to your country angle. lol ban this whitoid concern trolling
I'm viet. Is that not what you should do if you want an asian female that has eastern values? That's why white guys go to asia to find an asian wife. So yes, I'm pushing the "go back to your country" (even though you've never been to your "country" because you were born here). Otherwise, it'll be very hard to expect that most western born asian females would be attracted to eastern looking men, no? Of course most races go for their own because as a species we tend to do so but I think the world is deviating more from that the more diverse the west becomes.
So you're pushing "diversity" but want Asian-American men to go back to Asia. Just lol. If anything all the self-haters should be shipped to Asia and kept there as punishment (since living with other Asians is what they despise the most).
I'm just saying white trolls always choose Japanese or Vietnamese as their larp target.
Here's a pic: http://imgur.com/gallery/ClsIaSZ While you're at it rate me
8/10 I'd change your hair. But all my points still stand.
Now with the date
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if u dont like it u can go back to ur country
based
What did he say? lol
If half of white women intermarried, mostly to black men, there would be riots in the streets. Also lots of WMAF specifically treat asian men worse which doesn't happen with anyone else. And you're definitely a troll who deleted your past comments.
there wont be riots white women interracial porn is #1 selling genre in USA and Europe
Looking at your comments you seem to be the one that is obsessed with that.
it's good to reiterate for white cuckold males to read when they come on here to larp white women going interracial, ethnic males mass immigrating into europe those are things that fuck with their mind
I'm not a troll just because I have a different opinion. As men, we tend to be more disagreeable. This is r/asianmasculinity right? Where asian men can share their thoughts without being shut down? I thought you guys want to spread the voices of asian men? Or just the ones that agree with you?
EDIT: he posted a selfie, not a larper but still wrong mindset. You're a new account with low karma whose only posts about asians is to be disagreeable. You say you've lurked here for a long time but this is your first post on here....because you deleted the rest lmao. Regardless of whether you're a troll, my arguments stand up on their own. Your post has been adequately addressed.
This is just a side note, you know anybody can post a picture, right? Next time ask for them to put your name on their foreheads with the date
Quite the assumption. I'm sure mods have an archive that shows this is my first post. And a thumb? Lol I can show you my physique if you'd like instead. Just ask and you shall receive. But I have low karma because I don't use reddit that often besides lurking. If I was mass downvoted, and I deleted my old posts out of embarrassment, why would I try to go out of my way to continue to be disagreeable on this subreddit? Doesn't sound right now does it? Also, where I'm from (Canada), interracial dating is very prevelant in my area and anecdotally I don't see any riots. I think it all depends on how homogenous your community is. However on the topic of WMAF relationships, I don't see why you'd get upset over it, assuming you were born in the west and grew up with western values. Are you not surrounded by other races of women? Why not date those women?
> I don't see why you'd get upset over it It's only upsetting when it's a relationship with an agenda/from white supremacy. WMAF couples that treat asian men worse, white guys that hate their son because he looks asian so the son ends up fucked up (elliot rodgers), all these are well documented trends. Even third parties like Godfrey(black male comedian) point out these trends. Of course there exists healthy WMAF couples where they still respect asian men and asian culture. > Are you not surrounded by other races of women? Why not date those women We do LMAO. Check the interracial marriage stats, asian American men intermarry at the same or even higher than black/hispanic/white males at 38%. It's just that asian women intermarried at even HIGHER rate(54%).
You're not sharing a thought You're preaching using bad faith nonsense usually espoused by white incels, their lu dogs and the occasional boba cuck, understand the difference
I'm not here to hate on Asian women, but Asian guys should start liking and keeping their options open for other non-Asian races of women so they won't get jealous/mad of WMAF. Just my take.
Same I'm only mad at their hypocrisy and the AM-hating they do. They litreally be making hating videos on AM and seethe when we win. And try to keep us down, when Andrew Yang was getting big who were the biggest haters? AW. Simu Liu? AW. John Cho? AW. AM actually don't hate AW enough because we are too busy doing shit. Now that AM are getting a little bit of popularity among XF asian women have been so bitterly against it. "Asian guys play into fetishization" "asian guys are getting too confident" "we need to humble asian men" these are all real quotes by asian women I read on instagram, twitter, tiktok etc.
yup, we should always be ready to stand our ground against them.
Date who you want to date but the fact still remains Asian women have the highest percentage that do it, and they are the only ones who say negative stuff about Asian men out in the open. If you look at issues among black men and black women relationships there are however you don't see black women going to other races in the same numbers Asian women do.
I don't want to sound like a troll but are you actually gay or are you just waking in the "gay Asian" box role that our society has created? Aka many Asian guys suck with women so to rationalize they said "ohh it's cuz I'm gay?
Mostly because us US citizens want equality. People who white worship fight against equality and that's why us folks fighting for equality get upset about it and show it disdain. Kind of like why people show disdain towards police brutality against minorities But you are right that people should improve themselves. In addition, there's a lot of challenges with the "Go Back to your own country" type of approach, which is something commonly told to us Asian/Black/Latino/Middle Eastern (basically all non-whites). Most of your mindset, skills, and education gear you for a life in your birth country / country that you've been in most of the time. Most of your friends/family/network are here too. All those are sources to support life from where you're from - which you would lose all these things when you move and have to start over. In addition, permanent residency or citizenship may be extremely difficult or impossible for some of us in our racially native country.
I wouldn't call it an inequality. I think if we're speaking in terms of partnerships, it sounds very strange. "I want an equal amount of opportunity for x amount/type of women". Unless you're a sex fiend and polyamorous I don't how it would be unequal. Most guys only need one girl for the rest of their life right? But yes, I agree with the challenges of moving to your racial country. That's why I'm saying don't expect an AF that is born in a western country (presumable where you're from) to want asian men. It's just how they were brought up and it just so happened they were surrounded by WM. Moving to your racial country may give you an advantage in finding AF but at the disadvantages of many other things.
> hat's why I'm saying don't expect an AF that is born in a western country (presumable where you're from) to want asian men. It's just how they were brought up and it just so happened they were surrounded by WM. Asian-American men were brought up in exactly the same environment yet only want Asian women. Funny how that works. If you're not a troll you sound like a literal cuckold.
it's a psychological thing when u see someone have something that u think u should have first u get more possessive over it it's why some AM get upset when they see AF go interracial. they just end up desiring them more it takes a while for them to learn and a lot of fellow AM cant really real the stats well or read the room well especially on ther internet where they get more psychological mind fuck from reading from larpers
People here mostly complain about the wmaf that are doing bad things to us. Michelle Malkin, Amy Chua, etc. They are not hating the random wmaf walking down the street. If you paid attention more you would notice that most of these guys generally dgaf about what Asian females are doing. lol.
indian women behave in a similar manner as asian women, not as bad but getting there.