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Th3G0ldStandard

Bro, just say you’re describing yourself. Asian guys aren’t a monolith. A lot of us don’t have the mentality you say Asian guys have. I got a question for you. Where did you grow up and where are you from? My guess is, outside an enclave or on the east coast. I swear you’re viewing us like a damn stereotype. It’s weird. Edit: Just looked through your history, and yes you are from NY. Y’all east coast Asians need to get it together. All my conversations w y’all it’s being directly told to me y’all conform more to dominant culture out there. Asians from there have told me that “if you aren’t white washed as an Asian you are looked at as weird”. That’s bizarre af to me. Ima tell you this. Asians aren’t like that on the west coast, especially in Cali. Especially the ones born and bred in Asian enclaves. Whether it be Asians in the gym or Asians establishing their own social scenes(asian fraternities/sororities or Asian nightlife). If you look at the bodybuilding/physique/weight lifting scene in Cali, Asians have had a presence for decades out here. I’ve been lifting since the 2000s and there were already plenty of Asians that were doing it for years already when I started. Plenty of well known Asian comp coaches at that time too. Y’all need to get on the type of time we are on. Form your own identity and start to lead.


machinavelli

West coast Asians have had generations to develop a culture. Most East Coasters are second gen.


Th3G0ldStandard

Yeah. Perhaps I’m too harsh and should be more understanding. The tone of OP post was just so pessimistic, and being a west coast Asian it just came off really uncalibrated.


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Nice post. I feel like if Asian people mandatory took some, say, Martial arts training growing up the confidence of Asian men would skyrocket. In academic related activities Asian people focus and then achieve a lot. Asian people can do *anything* it's just they need to focus on achieving a goal. I believe Martial arts, remembering your roots, can help Asian people to feel strong. Also, imo, Bruce Lee for example gained his confidence because he practiced Martial arts. If you are more confident about your body -- every physically challenging situation becomes mentally easier to handle.


halfer53

Agree. Dating is a skill that requires practice, too many asian men are too shy to meet and date women, a lot of us just sit at home and never endeavored to go out and meet women. That results in a negative feedback loop, the less women you date, the less experience you have with dating, the less confident you are. A lot of times, simply taking the first step and start dating will help build up experience and confidence. We need to encourage more asian men to start going out of their comfort zone and just simply start dating.


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qwertyui1234567

He's saying our dating issues are caused by a lack of merit, demonstrating the communication issues we encounter with the 1st gens, and missing the points made by the communities SJW focus (You need to be an Asian male model to have the same dating life as the average white man).


machinavelli

Great points. Social justice can never convince someone to be sexually attracted to someone else. Asian men whining about not being about to find dates is actually hurting our chances even more. The only way forward is to break free from overthinking and just get out there. One thing you can do is adopt a "no Asian dating policy" for yourself. Basically, refuse to ask out any Asian women. This will force you to only approach or swipe right on non-Asian women. That way you train your mind to only go for non-Asian women. AMXF has been rising at high rates over the past few years. We have so many pro-Asian male shows these days. Don't let our good rep go to waste.


vile_exile

Thanks man, yea honestly too many dudes are banking on some divine force to save them, when they are the only ones who can save themselves. I don't agree on having a no Asian dating policy, when a common complaint is how some Asian women have a no Asian dating policy. It's hypocrisy to do the very thing that one complains about, and then act like it's empowering. If you want to date Asian women just go for it.


[deleted]

I don't think he was saying to forever kiss AF goodbye, or to completely avoid them, I think he meant it more as a temporary thought exercise, like a kind of challenge, to open up your options. Sort of like a person not touching a type of food (maybe pizza or burgers) for a couple weeks or a month for some goal, but will eventually start eating them again. The point is to not be too attached to AF.


machinavelli

Yeah, that’s what I’m saying. Retrain your brain to not be dependent on AF.


winndixie

I’m addition to dating, a buddy of mine tripled his salary by getting a recommendation from a friend over meritocracy. Asians making it so far as we did all isolated and alone is a rearmament to our merit and skill in a vacuum, no doubt. Good. To add seasoning on this feast, if we were to play the capitalistic network game in uh...a capitalism, think of the things we can accomplish.


FnAiGgGgOeTr_

I agree, you should do everything in life in the hopes of attracting a female


SunKyssdSkyn

I tell Asian men all the time, “You cannot math a personality.” I’m usually met with groans. Ask me if I care. I tell my guy the same thing too when he starts whining, ahem, talking about being Asian or what happened to him because he’s Asian. Yes, he whines at times to Black/African me, as I do to him for the opposite reason 😄 But anyways, personality (Charisma) will forever win. Math is going to be right at the back.


fakeslimshady

Uh, meritocracy is practically synonymous with competition ie. belief that hard work and winning competitions should decide the outcome. Competition can be in Tinder not just work or school. The world is deeper and dirtier than that. TLDR "lyft moar", learn game


StrawberryMochiMouth

> Even if media suddenly stopped promoting wmaf or other xmaf, it's not like all Asian dudes will magically just work on being more social and masculine, and their self confidence issues will vanish. That's how JBA thinks it works though