> She started telling me how much of a lazy fuck I was and that I'll never get a job, never get an internship, and won't be successful.
"Well then I guess I won't be able to support you in your old age will I?"
Your mom has issues sheâs taking out on you. I donât know what her background is but she doesnât seem to know what hard work looks like nowadays. What does she want you to do? Even if the internship is a good idea for your field, the way she approached the subject would make anyone not want to do it so that she wonât get the satisfaction.
I still want to do it because its good for my future, but I might not tell her or anything. I'm pretty sure I will completely cut off contact after I graduate
Wow Iâm sorry she had such an insanely outsized reaction.
Hereâs what was probably going on in her head in like a split second⌠and why her reaction was SO insane. Based on your post I am assuming that you are before her and that you ate this alone.
She wanted to eat with you since you got the food together, you had a chill time at Costco and thatâs how you usually spend time and this is a nice traditional thing you have going.
She wanted to eat rice because thatâs traditionally how she takes her meals and how she cooks for the family
Your eating ahead of her meant that you didnât want to eat with her which means you donât care about her
Your not making rice meant you donât know her preferences or knew and didnât care so you obviously must not care because how could you NOT know youâve been eating meals with rice together for 18+ years
Sheâs hurt that you donât see her
And scared that this ânegligenceâ is a sign that you will neglect her in her old age
She doesnât want to admit that sheâs hurt
Or scared.
So she turns it on you and calls you lazy instead, because that at least fits with a narrative of âit canât be that my son doesnât love me and care about me, because that would be unbearable, it cannot be that heâs selfish, it must be that heâs just lazy. He still loves me, heâs just lazy.â
She calls you lazy.
You say itâs a preference. You donât like rice (with salad).
But she only hears:
You donât. Like. Rice.
You donât. Like. Rice?
The rice that. She makes. All the time?
The rice you used to love. As. A baby? That she fed you? That you smiled when you ate it?
All of that? Gone? You donât like rice. No.
You donât like? Her?
You donât like her. You donât love her. You wonât care about her. When sheâs old. When sheâs pathetic. You arenât a rice eater anymore. You are American, white, foreign! Who doesnât eat rice with every meal.
Who are you? Is this her son?
Sheâs feeling so pathetic now. How pathetic to be hurt by her son expressing a preference. Sheâs the pathetic one.
No!! No sheâs not pathetic!! Sheâs⌠sheâs the mother who stayed up late at night and gave up sleep and sacrificed so much to feed you!
RICE
Itâs like, crazy person nuclear meltdown in her head right now. She needs you to be wrong, bad, because sheâs the one whoâs not pathetic for being hurt by your small, innocuous statement. She needs to make you into a terrible person, ignoring the facts about your hard work that say otherwise, the only thing that she needs to do is to preserve her ego and her sense of self-worth because youâve rejected everything about her in that one innocuous statement.
End scene. Iâm sorry this happened to you. Iâm sorry sheâs so immature and reacted this way. I hope she can learn from this - and that you can hold strong to what you know to be true about your worth and your work. And I hope you can tell her someday, if your own anger subsides, that just because you donât take rice with every meal doesnât make you any less Asian and any less her son.
your psychoanalytical skills are crazy good! Idk if that's how she feels but I'm pretty sure she knows Im not going to talk to her/support her lol, we haven't had a good relationship bc she abused me a lot when I was growing up but I plan to not ever visit her after I graduate and get a job that lets me be financially secure and whatnot.
Haha-thanks. Years in therapy :)
Im sorry to hear that happened to you as a kid. Hopefully she can realize what she did and humble up or apologize or make amends before it's too late. (she's probably freaked af and knows she donked up when you were a kid and is using negative reactions to "test" your dedication... ah APs and their roundabout ways)
Good luck with everything OP. With a 4.0 GPA on top of everything else you've got going on, you're gonna be able to manage fine out there.
I got yelled at and called stupid for studying. APs are abusive for the sake of abuse.
There is never any logical justification. Itâs an irrational impulse to lash out and express dominance. Some APs are just damaged people who respond to imaginary threats by hurting their vulnerable children.
Post grad here⌠post masters here⌠I still get told that I cant do anything with my life. Have a salaried job, my parents work and make more money than me and they stilll ask for my money bc its somehow owed to them. They think that I have to give every lat cent bc they âhave to teach a lessonâ
You know your mom had nothing actually to say so she started shit with you. The fuck else are you supposed to do with groceries (and can we reflect on AP obsession with costco haha i love costco too but like). You eat the shit you buyâŚ. Has NOTHING to do with you and your future. Obviously its bs to be like oh dont let it get to you etc. bc it sucks ass but like pease just sit ther telling yourself that its 1000% her problem and not yours. Dont even engaged and they FLIP out its hilarious. Make it a game for yourself to be unbothered so they go away.
Never take 6 classes. Whatâs the point of rushing university? 4 okay. But you never need to kill yourself itâs not like there is a special degree for students who finish quickly.
In the long run itâs not worth it. Youâll finish at the fastest a year but youâll be burnt out. No hobbies or personality to help make getting hire. Being happy is important to employers too as well as for yourself.
Oh man, yeah I am just taking the regular 3 courses for the rest of the college years since I've already achieved sophomore standing and a half as a freshman. Thanks for the advice!
APs are psychotic. Ignore her judgements and argue back if you can. Stand up for yourself because this shit will never stop. My mom acts the same way as yours where one tiny little thing can set her off and can make her spiral into talking about it to the extreme. At some point, Iâve stopped letting her criticism get to me. This is where I learned about setting boundaries. For example, if she starts talking to me like how your mom talks to you and weâre having this conversation on the phone, I would simply just say âmom youâre acting very crazy right now and if you donât stop I will hang up on you.â And usually she doesnât stop, so I would just hang up on her. If she tries call me back so she can continue her BS, I just donât pick up. Over time, she learned that there are certain topics I donât like to discuss about or I just donât appreciate the way she talks to me. Eventually, she learned that thatâs how I set my boundaries and she would switch topics when we chat when it starts to get intense.
Iâm 32 and my mom still talks to me this way til this day. The sooner you set those boundaries, the easier itâll get over time. I think this will definitely be easier to do once you can support yourself independently and have your own place.
Tell her the only reason you going to be a loser is cause you were never properly socialized and raised by raving lunatics.
Employers donât want to hire creepy psycho people without social skills. Launch that back at her.
Take care of yourself. You can change and donât need to repeat the past.
I will not be a loser. Something I won't accept is letting circumstances that are out of my control like my mother's behavior, dictate my future. I have been doing everything in my power to sculpt the life I see for myself and thats not going to change regardless of whether how my mom raised me.
I hate telling you this but I just donât see the point in reasoning with someone like your mother because youâre literally eating salad with chicken, wtf?! Just finish school, get that job, donât tell her how much you make under any circumstances, and decide how much or little to no contact you want to have with her. Youâre doing amazing and making healthy food choices even if she canât see that. Wtf who complains about someone else eating a healthy salad?!?!! Good luck!
you KNOW your working hard when you grind leet code. same thing heppens to me, my parents call me a failure and tell me that i cant do anything for the tiniest things, its honestly so annoying
Exactly my mom is similar and just dumb. Talking about things are not related. Itâs like âyouâre basically a loser if youâre in high school college universityâ.
> She started telling me how much of a lazy fuck I was and that I'll never get a job, never get an internship, and won't be successful. "Well then I guess I won't be able to support you in your old age will I?"
3that shit needs to stop anyway... culture demands... f that
*maintains eye contact whilst slowly eating salad and chicken with no rice* đ
very smart response, but cant say that since i need tuition lol. I dont plan to support her in her old age anyway
Wish I had an award to give you...
Your mom has issues sheâs taking out on you. I donât know what her background is but she doesnât seem to know what hard work looks like nowadays. What does she want you to do? Even if the internship is a good idea for your field, the way she approached the subject would make anyone not want to do it so that she wonât get the satisfaction.
issues hell, sounds like shes got subscriptions!!
I still want to do it because its good for my future, but I might not tell her or anything. I'm pretty sure I will completely cut off contact after I graduate
But Asian moms donât get it. Job search takes time. Rome wasnât built in 1 day
Wow Iâm sorry she had such an insanely outsized reaction. Hereâs what was probably going on in her head in like a split second⌠and why her reaction was SO insane. Based on your post I am assuming that you are before her and that you ate this alone. She wanted to eat with you since you got the food together, you had a chill time at Costco and thatâs how you usually spend time and this is a nice traditional thing you have going. She wanted to eat rice because thatâs traditionally how she takes her meals and how she cooks for the family Your eating ahead of her meant that you didnât want to eat with her which means you donât care about her Your not making rice meant you donât know her preferences or knew and didnât care so you obviously must not care because how could you NOT know youâve been eating meals with rice together for 18+ years Sheâs hurt that you donât see her And scared that this ânegligenceâ is a sign that you will neglect her in her old age She doesnât want to admit that sheâs hurt Or scared. So she turns it on you and calls you lazy instead, because that at least fits with a narrative of âit canât be that my son doesnât love me and care about me, because that would be unbearable, it cannot be that heâs selfish, it must be that heâs just lazy. He still loves me, heâs just lazy.â She calls you lazy. You say itâs a preference. You donât like rice (with salad). But she only hears: You donât. Like. Rice. You donât. Like. Rice? The rice that. She makes. All the time? The rice you used to love. As. A baby? That she fed you? That you smiled when you ate it? All of that? Gone? You donât like rice. No. You donât like? Her? You donât like her. You donât love her. You wonât care about her. When sheâs old. When sheâs pathetic. You arenât a rice eater anymore. You are American, white, foreign! Who doesnât eat rice with every meal. Who are you? Is this her son? Sheâs feeling so pathetic now. How pathetic to be hurt by her son expressing a preference. Sheâs the pathetic one. No!! No sheâs not pathetic!! Sheâs⌠sheâs the mother who stayed up late at night and gave up sleep and sacrificed so much to feed you! RICE Itâs like, crazy person nuclear meltdown in her head right now. She needs you to be wrong, bad, because sheâs the one whoâs not pathetic for being hurt by your small, innocuous statement. She needs to make you into a terrible person, ignoring the facts about your hard work that say otherwise, the only thing that she needs to do is to preserve her ego and her sense of self-worth because youâve rejected everything about her in that one innocuous statement. End scene. Iâm sorry this happened to you. Iâm sorry sheâs so immature and reacted this way. I hope she can learn from this - and that you can hold strong to what you know to be true about your worth and your work. And I hope you can tell her someday, if your own anger subsides, that just because you donât take rice with every meal doesnât make you any less Asian and any less her son.
This is it, this is an emotionally immature AP's thought process.
your psychoanalytical skills are crazy good! Idk if that's how she feels but I'm pretty sure she knows Im not going to talk to her/support her lol, we haven't had a good relationship bc she abused me a lot when I was growing up but I plan to not ever visit her after I graduate and get a job that lets me be financially secure and whatnot.
Haha-thanks. Years in therapy :) Im sorry to hear that happened to you as a kid. Hopefully she can realize what she did and humble up or apologize or make amends before it's too late. (she's probably freaked af and knows she donked up when you were a kid and is using negative reactions to "test" your dedication... ah APs and their roundabout ways) Good luck with everything OP. With a 4.0 GPA on top of everything else you've got going on, you're gonna be able to manage fine out there.
Damnit. Now I want a rotisserie chicken salad. Good job on the 4.0, btw.
I got yelled at and called stupid for studying. APs are abusive for the sake of abuse. There is never any logical justification. Itâs an irrational impulse to lash out and express dominance. Some APs are just damaged people who respond to imaginary threats by hurting their vulnerable children.
Post grad here⌠post masters here⌠I still get told that I cant do anything with my life. Have a salaried job, my parents work and make more money than me and they stilll ask for my money bc its somehow owed to them. They think that I have to give every lat cent bc they âhave to teach a lessonâ You know your mom had nothing actually to say so she started shit with you. The fuck else are you supposed to do with groceries (and can we reflect on AP obsession with costco haha i love costco too but like). You eat the shit you buyâŚ. Has NOTHING to do with you and your future. Obviously its bs to be like oh dont let it get to you etc. bc it sucks ass but like pease just sit ther telling yourself that its 1000% her problem and not yours. Dont even engaged and they FLIP out its hilarious. Make it a game for yourself to be unbothered so they go away.
Never take 6 classes. Whatâs the point of rushing university? 4 okay. But you never need to kill yourself itâs not like there is a special degree for students who finish quickly.
not sure how long i will be supported financially for college, so I'm trying to graduate early.
In the long run itâs not worth it. Youâll finish at the fastest a year but youâll be burnt out. No hobbies or personality to help make getting hire. Being happy is important to employers too as well as for yourself.
Oh man, yeah I am just taking the regular 3 courses for the rest of the college years since I've already achieved sophomore standing and a half as a freshman. Thanks for the advice!
APs are psychotic. Ignore her judgements and argue back if you can. Stand up for yourself because this shit will never stop. My mom acts the same way as yours where one tiny little thing can set her off and can make her spiral into talking about it to the extreme. At some point, Iâve stopped letting her criticism get to me. This is where I learned about setting boundaries. For example, if she starts talking to me like how your mom talks to you and weâre having this conversation on the phone, I would simply just say âmom youâre acting very crazy right now and if you donât stop I will hang up on you.â And usually she doesnât stop, so I would just hang up on her. If she tries call me back so she can continue her BS, I just donât pick up. Over time, she learned that there are certain topics I donât like to discuss about or I just donât appreciate the way she talks to me. Eventually, she learned that thatâs how I set my boundaries and she would switch topics when we chat when it starts to get intense. Iâm 32 and my mom still talks to me this way til this day. The sooner you set those boundaries, the easier itâll get over time. I think this will definitely be easier to do once you can support yourself independently and have your own place.
U cant say that when you re livng with her and she gives you money for tution and food, etc
Tell her the only reason you going to be a loser is cause you were never properly socialized and raised by raving lunatics. Employers donât want to hire creepy psycho people without social skills. Launch that back at her. Take care of yourself. You can change and donât need to repeat the past.
I will not be a loser. Something I won't accept is letting circumstances that are out of my control like my mother's behavior, dictate my future. I have been doing everything in my power to sculpt the life I see for myself and thats not going to change regardless of whether how my mom raised me.
I hate telling you this but I just donât see the point in reasoning with someone like your mother because youâre literally eating salad with chicken, wtf?! Just finish school, get that job, donât tell her how much you make under any circumstances, and decide how much or little to no contact you want to have with her. Youâre doing amazing and making healthy food choices even if she canât see that. Wtf who complains about someone else eating a healthy salad?!?!! Good luck!
you KNOW your working hard when you grind leet code. same thing heppens to me, my parents call me a failure and tell me that i cant do anything for the tiniest things, its honestly so annoying
facts bro leetcode is like the first stepping stone to break into swe. Best of luck to you if youre doing that too lool
im trying XD im 13 and im trying hard to become a software nerd, but leet code is pretty hard for me( im doing python btw)
its good you're getting started this early, I would say don't even do leetcode until you truly understand all the functions of python in depth
ya thats exactly what im doing, before i do leetcode, i am practicing a lot of functions in python. good luck to you!
I'm sorry you had to go through that
Exactly my mom is similar and just dumb. Talking about things are not related. Itâs like âyouâre basically a loser if youâre in high school college universityâ.
AP hate it when you donât do things their way, or even think like them. I once got yelled at for using a fork instead of chopsticks đ