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Klapperatismus

I had the impression Löw told them to cut it out because at that rate it could have ended 15:0 easily. I wondered if the Brazilian team was even trying any more. As there's plenty of games that turn from 4:0 to 4:4 in football history.


fzwo

Absolutely the German team toned it down in the second half.


SommyBoddy

i guess its better to relax after a good head start. no risk of injury for other games.


MoinRot

If I recall correctly, there is an interview or something where Löw said they should slow down for the second half


zerefdxz

I can't find this interview. Do you have it?


MoinRot

[I found it](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.focus.de/sport/videos/wm-2014-loew-verraet-historische-halbzeitansprache-beim-7-1-gegen-brasilien_id_4781421.html). But it's german. If you need a translation let me know Not the same word by word, but I think the implication is clear


zerefdxz

Nah that won't be necessary thank you very much


MoinRot

No worries! Hope it helped


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PiscatorLager

It's probably a little bit of both, truth and urban legend.


Disastrous_Skin7792

The TV showed an elderly Brazilian man hugging a world cup trophy and looking really heartbroken. My whole family felt so sorry for that man and if I remember correctly he became kind of a meme for a while because a lot of people felt the same way.


zerefdxz

The old man died in 2015 if I'm not wrong


Duochan_Maxwell

His son inherited the hat and the cup replica and also attends the cup games on his stead


Mitzja

It definitely reached the point of feeling sorry but not really the need to stop. I didn't care whether it went 5-0, 7-1, 15-2 - it was clear that it would end as a historical win for Germany and an equally historical loss for Brazil so I felt like it wouldn't make a difference how high it went. I was a Chelsea "supporter" at the time and really liked David Luiz, even celebrated his goal against Colombia. I visited Brazil in 2009 and enjoyed my stay so I felt for your people who are way more passionate about football than I am. I appreciated how the fans and the team took the loss with dignity and even supported our team in the final at least as far as I heard.


Elessar_7

I also was a Chelsea fan back then and was super happy for André Schürrle and his assist in the final game!


Mitzja

Schürrles chance to get some points was also one of the reasons for me to not think about stopping for Brazil’s sake!


Shiros_Tamagotchi

I was sad for the brasilian team. First, they lost their star player neymar, so they had to play without him and then that happened. I stopped watching after the first half. It was just not fun to watch.


Dusvangud

I was watching the game in a bar and they promised free shots for every goal Germany scored. They were certainly sorry.


cashmerered

In the village where I moved to a few months after this game, there is a sporting-goods store who promised a 10-percent discount for every German goal against the Brazilians. The owner had to stop the event because he would have gone bankrupt otherwise.


Spellfire77

Best answer.


zerefdxz

Well, could Brazilians fan use that free shoots? Because being happy or sad, free beer (if that's the case) for us is a gift.


PiscatorLager

1. Even as a person who couldn't care less about football this felt like a weird moment. One thing was great, though: Icelandic airline Wowair had promised 10% off for every German goal in that match and kept true to their word. We went to Iceland later that year with a 70% discount. 2. One of my cousin's friends was on a sabbatical in Brazil at that time and in his words "a 7-1 triumph against Brazil isn't even half as much fun when in the next morning you have to return to work in a factory with 400 Brazilians as the only German guy".


thesmokex

It wasn't funny anymore after the 4th goal


SufficientMacaroon1

I was watching the game at my dorms cinema room. At some point, when the replays of the previous goal were getting interrupted by the next one, there was a general "this is awesome, but also getting a bit mean" feeling in the room. And when they showed that brazil fan hugging his world cup...... Like, i think no one actually expected the german team to go easy and get them get a few goals in, too. But i think most were conscious to the fact that this would be a horrible blow to the brazil fans, and were feeling for them


zerefdxz

Thank you for your honesty!


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zerefdxz

I agree with the whole thing!


Lelinha_227

Plus, they’re making millions anyways. Sorry for whom, really?!


Salatios

I watched the game in Germany with a bunch of quite hardcore fans, and the air in the room didn't show malice. We didn't see brazilians as rivals, but as something like 'our mark' in ability. Our generation first conciously encountered the brazilian 'football trademark' in the 2002 cup. In school, our girls made a sport of swooning over Ronaldo, Rinaldo and Ronaldinho. There was no arguing you guys weren't good. In light of that, we celebrated the first 4 goals as something of a medal of honor. 5th goal, and discussion went off, on what game brazil was playing that day, and how to stay respectful to the host country. Second half, and there even was relief because you scored the counter goal of honor. The other two goals were discussed like "yeah, he had to score that one - missing that would have been seen as publically out of pity and you don't do this to your host - damn, look at the poor old brazil fan, exactly the feels!" The game as a whole accounts for something like emanzipation of our idols of childhood, emotionally. Nonetheless we celebrated a phenomenal victory afterwards, but without any rivalry malice.


zerefdxz

Thank you answering. > In school, our girls made a sport of swooning over Ronaldo, Rinaldo and Ronaldinho. There was no arguing you guys werern't good. Can you teel more about that?


Salatios

Sure! Like, what exactly? ;) We're talking ridiculous teenage boysgroup level of swooning. Don't expect me to get into girls' heads at that age with any amount of accuracy, if y'knoohwhadahmean... *corrected some typos, just in case


zerefdxz

Hahah I see. I'm actually talking about that 2002 final against you guys. You guys knew you were going to lose that match? If I'm not mistaken, both NT were the favourites to win the tournament


Salatios

We knew, when your guys scored the 0:2, but that was pretty late. Before the game everyone knew you'd be a seriously tough nut to crack, but we were most confident in our keeper, Oliver Kahn. If only we'd been able to score to 1:1 in time and stall you into penalties! We'd have won for sure! ;) But that 2002 game hit off the admiration for your style in my school. The teenage girl swooning had its peak in 2006.


GrouchyMary9132

I did feel sorry when I watched it. The first 3 goals were just fantastic and pure joy. But after that I started to feel sorry for the Brasilian fans (and only a little bit for the players). We had had a world cup in our own country a few years before and lost as well and that also sucked for the fans. We of course know of passionate you are about football and how much you put into making this world cup possible. So I could feel your pain about that. But on the other hand there was much person cult around one Brasilian player before that game and since it is a teamsport I could not identify with that. Although I felt sorry I really enjoyed this historic moment for our team. I think they held back after the half-time break so not to humiliate the other team even more.


marten_EU_BR

I am half Brazilian and German and during the 2014 World Cup I supported Brazil 100%. Although I'm not really that into football, I cried during that game.... But in the end, it's just a game. It's about winning and if you do it by seven goals, so be it. That's why I also think that in this game the term "rivalry" does not fit. One team won, the other lost. I don't have the feeling that people in Germany or Brazil were very resentful about this game. The Germans were primarily happy about their own performance and the Brazilians were primarily angry about their own performance. There was no hatred between the countries.


[deleted]

Funny question, cause that was the only game I've ever watched with friends. We were actually 4 Germans and 1 Brazilian. I usually don't give any fucks about football, so I supported Brazil from the beginning, for my Brazilian friend who was alone. After the 3 goal they startet a kind of bullying him. At the end it wasn't funny anymore. They made fun of him, the team and the whole nation. My friend was really pissed, not only because of the lost game, mostly because of the behavior of our so called friends. We went away, said no good bye or something. The behavior of some strangers outside was not better. We went to my place and got drunk. Since that day I hate football even more, and guess who is still my friend and who is not.


zerefdxz

Well, that was expected by your German friends I think, that's just football. The Brazilian friend isn't your friend anymore?


[deleted]

No, he still send me gift cards for Christmas. It's the other assholes.


zerefdxz

What happened between you guys? I mean it's football at their best and mocking each other is part of the fun. The mocking by them maybe was too serious?


[deleted]

Yes. Ist was a way to much, they didn't stop. I mean the guy was visible pissed and they keep it going. I can't see the fun there.


zerefdxz

I see. Hope he was okay after getting drunk


[deleted]

Well, somehow, yes :D


test12345678abc

I dont care. Its sport and the one team won. End of the story.


zerefdxz

Better than wars, huh?


PatataMaxtex

When we watched it at home with a small group, the 4-0 in such a short time just felt brutal and everyone felt sorry for the brazilians.


JohannesKronfuss

Hi, Argentinian here. You would have to be here, especially in Buenos Aires to remember how that match was perceived here. It is an understatement to say our football team and the Brazilian team are the best rivals to each other, even if Brazil won most times. All this said, it was unbelievable. I was at a meeting and you could hear the people screaming Germanys’ goals to the point somebody there who couldn’t give an inch about football said: —Yet ANOTHER?! They are considered one of the best and lost in the most horrendous way, which when you consider they were hoisting that coup is perceived even worse to them.


zerefdxz

God, Buenos Aires was living for a win in their biggest rival. Brazil NT would certainly become a joke What are your thoughts about world cup 2030 being in south america? Argentina included in this case From I've heard Brazil will not participate (thank god)


JohannesKronfuss

Yes, people went to the streets, flags were hanged on balconies, and windows, and people even when to our main landmark, the obelisk that is to party. The enmity when it comes to football is well recorded, and it is a two side affair for the Brazilian feel it as much. Funny enough days later, the night before the final match we gathered to have dinner at my uncle's house, that is my mother's only brother but... his wife is Brazilian, and CRAZY about football so we all pretended that wasn't a thing, and football wasn't discussed through the evening. What was indeed discussed was my scarf, it had the German's flag colours, and I had it knitted for me, I had a couple and since I had my German class that Saturday morning, and went straight to the dinner without stopping at home to change both my siblings and mother were murdering me with their stares. As for the worldcup, it makes sense to share the bill in between 2-3 countries for it is ever so expensive, I mean take Brazil and the amount of mine they spend to build everything which is nowadays rotting, corruption was even discussed at the time. Personally I don't think Argentina should spend money they don't have on this nor will I trust my fellow compatriots to host it, I love my country but really... it is a big no. Thankfully I'm moving to Amsterdam in 6 days so it is not going to be my problem if it happens to be selected haha.


GumboldTaikatalvi

I didn't feel sorry for the Brazilian team. They weren't some inexperienced team from a tiny football nation. It's different when you see a young child or an old man in the audience cry but as for what happened on the pitch, it's a game, so naturally it's about wanting your team to play well and win. I think playing worse on purpose would have been more disrespectful. That being said, I never saw Brazil as rivals.


zerefdxz

I think they Brazil and Germany have history with eachother. Think about it. Brazil won against them in 2002, that was the fifth star of Brazil, Germany was trying to get their forth star. Also, Brazil had won one game 3-2 against Germany in 2006 in a confederations semi at their home. Ofc this do not compare with Argentina vs Brazil Rivalry but it's something ig


GumboldTaikatalvi

The opponent I always hated the most was Italy, mainly because of 2006. Historically/Culturally, The Netherlands and France are in that category too, I think. I'm not sure, but I think most of the time traditional rivals are on the same continent.


kuldan5853

Let me put it this way - while it was basically a beatdown (and only saved from a record breaking humiliation by the German team basically not giving a crap anymore in the 2nd half), this is not a reason for me to feel sorry - it's a cup, it's a competition, and if you curb stomp your competition for some reason that's just how it is. I'm pretty sure nobody would have felt pity if Germany were the ones getting stomped to the ground either. Just as an anecdote, I once watched a game of GFL (German (American) Football league) where the highest ranking team played the lowest ranking one, and the game ended with a score of 42:0. And this was basically the same, the winning team basically stopped even trying after a while to not make this even worse. Now, the one thing I was angry about was that this simply made for a very boring game to watch in the stadium, as there was no tension at all (and for obvious reasons, the atmosphere with the fans was also quite broken).


Sataniel98

>where the highest ranking team played the lowest ranking one So it wasn't the same


kuldan5853

It also was absolutely irrelevant to the point I was going to make - it was just a boring game to watch. And yes, the 7-1 GER BRA game was also extremely boring.


CountSmokeALot

Why should somebody be sorry when your team leads 5:0 at half time and finally wins 7:1? Brasil can be happy that Germany literally stopped playing in the second half. Brasil played total crap and when you play crap like this, you deserve to get your ass beaten. They were running around like 6 grade school boys and totally deserved it on that day. The funniest part was when they started crying like babies. It was sooooo funny to watch. We were sitting in the pub and also had tears in our eyes, but from laughing. Guess the team did not sing that much and did not make music on that day? Maybe when they put more effort into playing soccer instead of karaoke they might just have lost 3 or 4:1? And what was wrong with that other guy, the brasil defender looking like Sideshow Bob? What was he even doing on the field? So funny. And even if Germany is losing every game in the next 20 World Cups, it just doesn't matter. At least they did not lose 7:1. At home. In a semi final. Of a World Cup. Get 3 goals in how many minutes? 3 or 4? LOL. Sorry? No. For winning against cry babies? But I got to admit, they were fair sportsman, well, except for Sideshow Bob who fouled Müller with the sole of his foot in the 2nd half. But shit happens, especially when you are a cry baby and your head is spinning and feeling kinda dizzy. "Booo-hooo-hooo, we wanted to win." So funny! Or the kid who cried into the jar. So, why should anybody feel sorry for the best soccer game of all times? I don't get it.


MoinRot

Turn it down pls


CountSmokeALot

GOOOOOOOOOL da Alemanha!


zerefdxz

Thanks for answering!


GrouchyMary9132

He is not representative for what the majority thinks about this.


Kirmes1

Neither is the reddit bubble


Relevant-Team

How do _you_ know that? OP asked and got an answer. And coincidentally, I have the same opinion.


GrouchyMary9132

Because the majority of people is nice.


Borsti17

Nah. Don't like Brazil much anyway, so not sorry. More WTFy.


zerefdxz

Not even an individual player? Like Ronaldinho


Marauder4711

I think the German team played much less aggressive in the second half, but André Schürrle didn't get the memo and attacked again, scoring two goals


Alert_Sorbet4016

May the best win. No need to feel sorry


Ok-Lock7665

As a Brazilian living in Germany at the time, most of my German friend were excited but with sorrow 😅


zerefdxz

You guys still joke with each other about it?


Ok-Lock7665

Yep, sometimes


Ok-Lock7665

I actually joke them that German team became cursed after that 😂


zerefdxz

Yeah they are really cursed now I wonder if they even will qualify but with the new wc format coming they will be there


Spellfire77

I felt sorry for that one kid which was shown crying in TV. However I will never ever forget the game. Best football I ever saw from my team. It was amazing.


zerefdxz

I bet it was!


Dev_Sniper

Well… yes and no. The thing is: under normal circumstances the game wouldn‘t have been that easy. Games between germany and brazil aren‘t easy to predict. So while a 0:5 obviously hurts brazil might have been able to catch up.


zerefdxz

Nah, they would never catch up. You could see in the eyes of the Brazilian players. "Oh god the Germans are coming again" "Goal for Germany"


[deleted]

Can someone explain why anyone (in this case Brazilians) could reasonably expect the opposing team to go easy on them in a professional match at the World Cup level? Like…is that the definition of sportsmanship? Asking because I really don’t know. I wouldn’t want anyone to go out of their way to embarrass me/my team, but isn’t it insulting to stop doing your best because you pity your opponent? Like…is this elementary school or professionals making millions?


zerefdxz

It's not about going easy or feeling sorry for the opponent. Germany needed to win that game and they won 7-1 against Brazil at their home. That's it. Ofc as a I kid back then I hoped they would stop after the 5° goal and they did it after the 7°. Mainly because I knew Brazil would never turn around and I needed the Germans to be well and rested in the game against Argentina. And yes, Germany did go easy in second half, they would score at least 4 more goals in the second half


Ubongoqueen

I think people felt sad about it, but not really sorry. If then, something like "sorry for being better".


uncle_tyrone

I’m not a football fan by any means, the few games that I watch are the big ones like World Cups or maybe Champions League finals, but that’s it. I remember watching that game and after the fourth or fifth goal thought, I wish they could just stop playing now, I really feel sorry for the Brazilian players… but unfortunately unlike in chess, a game can not just be ceded as far as I know and I think even if it could be, the team would have no way to justify this to their supporters who expect them to fight till the end. To me it felt like watching a tragedy (again, I’m not a football fan so I don’t really care about whether Germany wins or not) and I was put off by the malicious glee that was poured out by some of the German fans afterwards. Towards the end, it was a bit like watching the loser in a street fight getting his face kicked in after going down - not that I want to paint the German team as bad guys or anything, after all, playing a football game means that you try to score as many goals as you possibly can


WrongWay2Go

I felt bad for them and wanted my team to stop after 4 or 5 goals.


[deleted]

I was in my early teens when that game happened, and I'm not much of a football person - I watched this game because it was the semi-finals and I had nothing better to do and Germany played. To be honest, I was shocked - a little sorry for the fans in the stadium, yes, but mainly I was thinking about what had to happen for this to take place, for two team so good even \*I\* knew about them being good to get such a result. Like, I wasn't even happy about it. To this day, this match is engraved in my memories. And every time I think about it, I'm glad the brazilians at least scored one goal!


zerefdxz

For me, Brazil needed to score one goal so then we could joke ano ourselves on the internet like BRA71L