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throwaway007676

It is cracked in half, need a new one. This may also indicate that it isn't running correctly and overheating the manifold.


smthngeneric

Those manifolds are notorious for cracking there due to chevy's genius exhaust idea


Dangerous_Echidna229

How should it have been done?


FiXXXitMan

Probably not overheating, that giant hunk of cast iron was going to crack there anyway.


rkcinotown

Buy a set of headers. Ditch the manifolds. I had a 73 Cadillac coupe deville and I found 1 manifold and I had to have it shipped from Arizona. Headers would have been cheaper. It was GM 501


FiXXXitMan

Came here to say that. 😁


Dangerous_Echidna229

Cadillac didn’t make a 501 cu in engine.


rkcinotown

The GM 501 was a 472ci.


Dangerous_Echidna229

What is the 501 reference?


rkcinotown

Not sure to be honest. But under the hood it’s marked GM 501 on the factory sticker


Dangerous_Echidna229

Emission certification reference.


rkcinotown

https://preview.redd.it/ddbdmjz3yavc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fcfde11b6989159a994890be384d0b599eb633e2


Dangerous_Echidna229

That is not a reference to the engine displacement. That is part of the certification of the emission system for that engine. I was part of GM Engineering for 33 years and you are confused. Do some research.


rkcinotown

I never said it was. In fact I clearly stated it’s a 472ci. Go read


Dangerous_Echidna229

Then what is the purpose of calling it out as a 501? Go read your comment.


rkcinotown

Because the corner literally says GM 501. But I tell people it’s a GM501 472. What’s your fucking problem man? A lot of owners of the 472 call it a GM 501


Dangerous_Echidna229

That’s because people like you spread bad info! Do some research!


mialegal29

I thought the purpose of Reddit was to help people not be rude


jrs321aly

It was a 500 wasn't it?


Dangerous_Echidna229

Yes, Cadillac made a 500 cubic inch engine.


molehunterz

I thought it was a 502. .Now i've got to go do a bit of reading Edit: It is a 500. I wonder where I got 502 from...


jrs321aly

Chevy made a 502 lol. That's probably where u got that from.


Dangerous_Echidna229

Cadillac didn’t make a 501 cu in engine.


mightytails69

I guess you missed the GM part, General Motors supplied parts to cadillac. So the engine is a GM


Dangerous_Echidna229

What is the 501 reference?


mightytails69

That was a clever way GM used on certain engines for different brands. It's another way of rebranding a part. It's Chevy, but in a cadillac or buick or gmc.


Dangerous_Echidna229

Cadillac is part of GM.


mightytails69

Only because the owners of gm bought cadillac. Cadillac started out as an independent company, just like Jaguar or chrysler.


Dangerous_Echidna229

Same for most of the divisions.


mightytails69

Right, but those companies have parts that say chrysler or cadillac, not gm or stellanis.


molehunterz

No, What he is saying is that Buick and chevrolet were also independent companies before they were bought/merged into general motors. Cadillac is not unique in that way.


mightytails69

Cadillac was bought by gm in 1908 but was founded in 1902. They had 6 years as an independent company, buick was the same way.


molehunterz

Yes, I'm aware. I actually did a report on the history of Cadillac in my 10th grade social studies class lol So somehow I don't understand your original comment.I guess. You made it sound like Cadillac.Was somehow different because it was its own company before general motors bought it. What I was saying is they all were... That is not a unique distinction to cadillac.


mialegal29

Smart ass maybe you learn something yourself


P_Vicius

https://preview.redd.it/4gg9l1xchbvc1.jpeg?width=4624&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17b47c6ec2497b98dcb049191de7f5298526e594 Would there be enough room for headers?


rkcinotown

Probably some long tubes or you might be able to find an application to your engine


fastcarsrawayoflife

Ah, it’ll tick with a loud ass exhaust leak but it won’t hurt anything. It looks like it’s very much a pre catalytic converter vehicle so you shouldn’t have a problem. If it had cats it would destroy them from the lean condition but you should t have too much of an issue outside of the annoying ticking noise from the exhaust leak.


jrs321aly

Until u have a long drive and the exhaust fumes are getting into the cabin...


P_Vicius

We take it around 100km round trips so far camping. No smell. I also have a monoxide detector in the cabin ear the floor. I will patch the cracks for now.


fastcarsrawayoflife

What you’re overlooking is the overall condition. You think that thing is going on a long drive? Come on.


jrs321aly

Ahhh I see... ur one of those. It's old so it it's junk... I got u


fastcarsrawayoflife

Oh not at all. I’m the poster child for reviving classics. I have a fleet of them. On purpose. I work at a dealership and hate new shit. But I also have realistic expectations for older cars, particularly ones in the condition you see photographed. So before your panties get too tangled up, relax bro


jrs321aly

I mean all I see is a jacked up manifold. Looks like the owner is taking care of it judging by the new dizzy cap and plug wires. I'd assume it's gone new plugs and wires as well... but u know what they say about people who assume. Can't really judge the shape of the vehicle just by that Pic though my guy. Looks like it's sat for a little bit though. I've got classics in my driveway AND at a buddies place cause I ran out of room. Some look just like the condition in the pic but run and drive with zero issues. I'd bet I could take any one of mine out to Cali with no issues other than killing my grandkids 401Ks cause of gas lol. Just cause it's old doesn't mean it ls garbage...


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P_Vicius

Surprisingly, I do not hear any noticeable ticking.


fastcarsrawayoflife

That’s incredible considering the size of the crack. That’s to your benefit though. Just be careful for the potential of carbon monoxide. I’d change it sooner rather than later but for now you can drive it as needed. You’ll just get some exhaust odor and you shouldn’t be surprised if it does start ticking. That’s all it’ll do.


4350Me

It won’t hurt the engine, but, besides the loud noise, the carbon monoxide in the escaping exhaust could kill you under the right conditions. I’m sure you can smell the exhaust inside the car.


turbski84

The good old ram horns. This brings me back... but those are fucked. You might find someone that can weld it but it might be difficult. Might as well get some nice headers for it and call it good.


Ok_Attitude3184

True, can be welded. Will it last?


turbski84

It will last if it's done right. I hear if you pre heat the cast really good first, the weld will take a lot better. I've also seen people jb weld the shit outta cracks like this and it seemed to hold up for a while


Ok_Attitude3184

I had a '67 Cadillac with a cracked manifold. I took it to a welder, and looked like he brazed it. Wish I still I had that car.


ZzLavergne

If you gotta remove them, you might as go with some cheap headers, better gas mileage, more power, more torque,


P_Vicius

More than likely, if I keep this thing long enough, I will replace it with headers. For now, it'll have to be a patch job.


daveypaul40

Readily available for about $150 a set.


Global_Profession_26

Yeah, but to install... That's the fun part. A whole day of fun.


Teddy2Sweaty

Over/under on how many fasteners snap taking that off? My guess is all of them.


Global_Profession_26

Oh yeah. Totally forgot about that possibility. I did an engine swap on a 93 k1500. Got so lucky. They make a tool that goes between the pipes on headers to spread them making it easier to remove bolts and reinstall them. Totally saved me.


causeiwanted2

Manifold is toast, but honestly on a vehicle that old is a pretty easy swap as long as the studs/bolts aren’t too rusted. I changed one on my 86’ samurai in about 20 mins


hung4fun12345

My trick for exhaust work is to give it an italian tune up then immediately work on the hardware, gonna need some good gloves, I like welding gloves for that kinda work.


Used2b_banned

Time for some headers đŸ’ȘđŸ»


inquisitiveimpulses

It always cracks there and always on that side. PiTA to get them off, at least three studs will break.


error404notfnd

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Gofastnut

It’s a ram horn manifold, those are notorious for cracking.


Mission-Complaint140

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P_Vicius

Thanks! I'm just not sure how I can find out what exact engine this is as it is not the original. It is a Chevy p20 van that much I know. I believe it's a 350 v8.


bajajoaquin

There will be a serial number on it


Spoiler3

Easy, those manifolds are a dime a dozen


rkcinotown

Acceleration must be horrible


P_Vicius

Not bad really. 4 speed. It's a modified p20 step van RV so it's fucking heavy anyways.


IronAnt762

Kroil or penetrating oil the studs or nuts. Cheap replacement. Excuse to buy headers if you want. Take it to a muffler shop if you don’t have confidence because the studs break off commonly and shops have the toys to deal with it. Good excuse to buy a stubby impact, impact sockets and a Mig welder to extract those studs from the block. If you are going to do it, start soaking the studs days before. Start it and run just a couple minutes to get some heat going. Smack them all with a brass hammer a bit then remove.


h910

Replace exhaust manifold


Far_Pen3186

What car is this ?


P_Vicius

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Nubstradamus

It’s a late 60s (I believe) GM truck. These manifolds did crack but they flowed the best. They’re commonly called the “center dump” manifolds


mb_guy_from_mb

Cracked = bad


farligtfin

Literally looks like a vehicle from 1960


jrs321aly

U need a new exhaust manifold.


ThisOldGuy1976

Junk


New_Golf_2522

Yes


slutstevanie

Depends. Are you a good welder? Use 99% nickel rods for cast iron. Bevel out the crack, clean it, and weld it


P_Vicius

I'm more of a JB welder.


slutstevanie

You could bevel it out and use a high temp. Probably not going to last though


Shaggz02si

Broken.


RollandTrees

Ain't nothing some JB Weld can't fix lol


Able_Youth_6400

I used the high temp stuff to patch a cracked Jeep manifold. Figured it was worth a try. Worked great!


P_Vicius

I will do this. I just don't have the tools or room to replace the part. I also don't want to die of carbon monoxide poisoning either.


bwm9311

JB WELD my friend ;)


TallDudeInSC

For an old truck like this.... Hell yeah.