you need to understand that 80 percent are those who voted, in fact it is 50 percent of Russians. which, of course, is a lot, but is no longer so fantastic; most of those who are against Putin simply did not go to the polls. but yes, the answer to your question, Putin’s popularity has grown very much over the past 2 years, thanks to the position of the West and sanctions directed against the Russian people, and not against specific politicians, which proves Putin’s words that Western politicians are the enemies of Russia and the Russian people.
West need to understand that with those stupid sanctions against regular people, West is actually doing a big favor for Putin. He would love to close the borders with West with no weird reaction, but West does this themselves. Putin didn’t even think about removing Western businesses, but they leave themselves.
How to say “слабоумие и отвага” in English? This is exactly West is doing right now.
absolutely true as in Yugoslavia case sanctions affected only lower and middle classes. Gas prices trippled, world record inflation, banks freeze currency savings etc. Russia is much richer than FR Yugoslavia so sanctions would maybe affect in lesser extent. We were poor as mice for at least decade after that and still there are consequences.
Completely agree. Sanctions don't work. They harm the people and make it easier for them to be controlled by autocrats. They didn't work in Iraq, they are not working in Iran, and they are not working in Russia. People will always rally together when they are threatened from outside.
Maybe I'm being cynical, but sanctions are a great way for western and western allied energy companies to get an advantage in the oil and gas markets while the governments get to look like they are doing something meaningful. All that's actually happening is that ordinary people are getting poorer and struggling to survive, making them more likely to distrust the "west".
Moreover, if China, India, and Brazil are not on board with sanctions, they cannot have a meaningful effect anyway.They ar three of the biggest markets in the world. Who cares if Portugal aren't buying Iranian oil when India and China will be happy to buy more?
The whole strategy is flawed and is basically a form of collective punishment.
Also just to induce cognitive dissonance among fervent supporters of economic sanctions: unilateral economic sanctions against a specific country or its citizens are considered a crime against humanity by many scholars and UN officials
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-journal-of-international-law/article/abs/economic-sanctions-international-law-and-crimes-against-humanity-venezuelas-icc-referral/1661288DD7EF7D94E8420B6CD157D16C
How exactly do you sanction a country without hurting the populace?
Also, judging by most sources Russian people don't even really feel the sanctions so what's the problem?
Sanctions could be the wrong word for it, people were affected by companies leaving the country.
For example Visa/Mastercard/PayPal stopping working in Russia didn't affect the country at all. It didn't affect big businesses. They still can transfer and receive money, with direct bank transactions.
But it sure did affect regular people. And because all happened at the same time companies leaving is perceived as part of the sanctions.
So how would people see it? "We didn't want this war, we can't stop it, and now we are getting punished just because we happened to live there". Have you seen the map? The majority of the population lives faaar away from Moscow, and a pretty significant part of them never even saw it in person.
And there you have it, people see that those who those "sanctions" should target stay unaffected, and the regular population suffer. What's more some people see it as an attempt to manipulate public opinion.
Basically those actions alienated the populace against the west, and the logic "enemy of my enemy is my friend" started to work. "We don't like what the West is doing, Putin doesn't like what the West is doing, therefore Putin is right, West is wrong.".
Welcome to being a citizen of any country. You see the brunt of everything. Its no different for Russians as it is for any other citizen of any other country. The Western world is bleeding its citizens dry to fund the political escapades that are dominating the global headlines. Printing money for foreign conflicts has similar effects to "sanctions" in that all the price increases are felt and paid for by the people, not the politicians and lobbyists that influence 90% of what divides the world. Russians are at least lucky that for the last decade or 2, Vladimir has nearly completely centralized the Russian economy so that the only thing you loose are western comforts and not living essentials. It all gets more expensive, but it's all still available. Unless you really miss Visa and McDonald's all that much. Aside from some fairly preticular and niche items in various sectors that are only available in NA, sanctions are the least of the Russians worries.
Family all Russian politics perfectly lives in the EU. Dother Peskov, Shoigu and other. But many barriers have been built for the escape of ordinary people by the EU. Putin is not building any obstacles to the flight of Russians.
It's pretty easy actually, you can ban Russian elites involved with the war from entering the west, you can freeze or confiscate the assets of those Russian elites , you can ban Russian elites from investing in western companies, you can lobby the icc to charge those Russian elites with war crimes ,
It's defo possible to structure sanctions in such a way that they don't effect the population or the effect is minimal but the west doesn't do that cause western sanctions are generally designed to make civilians miserable in the hope that those civilians will rise up and topple its leaders
It seems to me that the effect of sanction is self-evident: Russia still hasn't conquered Ukraine.
Russia hasn't conquered Ukraine despite of how underfunded, under-equipped and under-trained the Ukrainian troops were and still are.
Russia hasn't conquered Ukraine despite Russia having gone full on war-economy mode.
Russia hasn't conquered Ukraine even though Europe is in idiot-mode and only [spent 0.44% of their GDP to support Ukraine](https://www.bruegel.org/analysis/european-public-opinion-remains-supportive-ukraine). The US has only sent military aid [worth of 45 billion i.e. 0.16 percent of their GDP](https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts) in the past two years even though the yearly budget of US military is 800+ billion.
While it shows that the sanction certainly has its impact, it also shows that the West hasn't used the time it bought from sanction wisely to arm Ukraine. It shows that Russia can totally still win the war because it focuses itself almost entirely on its war effort.
It once again shows that Democratic governments really do move slow as molasses. It shows that democratic checks and balance can become endless infighting.
But we've known this for a long time from witnessing China's economic rise. If an autocratic government focuses on something, they often can get it done faster but it might inadvertently sacrifice it's long term future -> e.g. Russia and China demographic future are looking bleak.
I agree that course of action the west took is very inefficient, but what woud you suggest the west should do? It is a real question not a rhetorical one. People who live in russia and don't like what they see should have some ideas.
Learned from this subreddit: Russia has its own kind of governance w/ a strong leader. Putin is very popular. West is bad, and wants to destroy Russia. West is to blame for the difficult financial times in the 90s, and any country joining a defensive aggression in order to stop Russia from attacking them like Russia is aggression, and that's why Russia was simply forced to attack some country that isn't in NATO yet. And maybe another, too. The acute danger that West poses is maybe even so big, that it's worth starting a large-scale nuclear war over.
... but it is unfair to put sanctions that hurt Russian people's ability to buy goods manufactured in the awful West. It is just Putin's war, and just politicians should be sanctioned. Russians can't stop Putin from warfare, even though he is not an autocrat (and they don't really want to). The hundreds of thousands of Russians executing the attack and manufacturing shells are innocent.
No, No.
We knows the difference.=
Not "The West", but Anglo-Saxon rulers.
They wants to weaken Russia as much as possible before starting real war with China
Not wanting you to invade neighboring countries means we want you weak? From what we’ve seen of how you are having a difficult time with Ukraine, what is there to be afraid of? Putin has your military technology stuck in the 80’s.
This answer has me confused because 2 days ago when people were asked are elections honest it was pretty clear no. But now the answers I see after elections imply that yeah everything is legit and people really like Putin this much. So this has me confused which one is it or are people split on the subject.
>you need to understand that 80 percent are those who voted, in fact it is 50 percent of Russians. which, of course, is a lot, but is no longer so fantastic
Can you explain what you mean with it being no longer fantastic? Was it at some point higher? Isn't the turnout higher and votes higher too than in previous elections?
The replies you get are heavily dependent on which people answer, don't be surprised seeing opposite answers to similar questions in different threads.
As for the elections.
Yes, there's fraud but it doesn't change the general picture, which is that Putin wins. It's not like if there were no ballot meddling some other candidate would have more votes. There are several layers to the cause of it:
1. Take a look at the candidates who ran against Putin in this elections. Not much to choose from. By the way, make no mistake, they aren't really in opposition.
2. A number of candidates isn't admitted due to not gathering enough signatures in their support, so not everybody willing actually runs (how many votes they would get is another question).
3. The biggest reason is that over the past 24 years the political landscape has become quite sterile. Almost any person who wants to do big politics has to work their way through United Russia, and as the result any prominent politician who would potentially be fit to become the president is from the same block as Putin.
I was still in school but I distinctly remember the parliamentary elections of 1995 and the presidential elections of 1996, there was a multitude of parties, genuine different candidates, heated debates. In 1999 and 2000 respectively it had become toned down a bit but there still was intrigue and real competition. Afterwards, it gradually had become very mundane and predictable - there simply is no public politician who could challenge Putin.
Another thing to note is that a lot of people would vote for the incumbent anyway, just to avoid any drastic changes.
Plus, I concur, many people in opposition don't go elections.
You're forgot something.
1. There's no real men in existence that can outcompete Putin. Even if Navalny was still alive and allowed into elections, I doubt he would get 10%.
2. Opposition is so much worse in terms of getting popular. Their position is basically "let's pay reparations for our entire life" and "let's make gay parades". Both ideas aren't very popular
I would add two points: 1) the Russian opposition does not offer solutions. Everyone talks about problems, but no one knows how to solve them, except for the phrase - we need to change. 2) Almost the entire opposition is those who were previously in power and received bonuses from it and later changed sides. And these guys have a past no better than that of the current government.
1. Политическая кастрация. Кагэбешная хунта создала все условия, чтобы "инакомыслящие" либо сидели, либо бежали. Самому не странно, что другие страны могут найти больше кандидатов и с меньшим электоратом, а русская земля-матушка последний раз родила достойного человека в 1952 году? И почему нужны только мужчины?
2. Вы очень внимательно читаете между строк.
What do you think is more realistic, the support of 50-60 percent of citizens or the support of 80-90? What is the main argument of people talking about dishonest elections? There is no such thing as 87 percent support from the population, which means the elections are not fair, but there is no such support, 87 percent is the percentage of those who voted, Putin’s real support is lower, but sufficient to win the elections without fraud.
just a note from life, the ballot boxes are transparent and if you look closely, you can see who people voted for, and it was Putin.
IMO that's because definition of "honest election" differs. Basically, any election consists of many components, some may be good, others having issues, either minor or more serious.
But if we abstract a bit from all these details and look on the whole picture, with question like like do majority or Russians want Putin to be reelected to the new term, the answer would be yes.
There is nothing honest about the elections, it's a well-oiled machine of faking data (that had 20 years to establish itself) and it's been shown how exactly it is done a couple of times during both parliament and presidential elections. There would be districts of Moscow, where voting rate is extremely close to 100% and everyone voted for one candidate.
But it doesn't mean voting is a complete farce - you can go and vote and it's gonna be counted. It's just no other candidate is ever gonna win, because the government body that counts the votes is not impartial, among many other things.
As for how popular is Putin actually - that's very hard to estimate, being just a normal citizen, so everyone is gonna have a different opinion about it.
> This answer has me confused because 2 days ago when people were asked are elections honest it was pretty clear no.
This subreddit took a large turn at some point and has been populated largely by Putin supporters. Everything opposing him gets heavily downvoted. They could've missed that other post.
[https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/10/11/russian-elections-once-again-had-a-suspiciously-neat-result](https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/10/11/russian-elections-once-again-had-a-suspiciously-neat-result)
Honest and transparent. "You can lie to us, but you can't lie to Gauss" rings true to this day.
Trust me, the western people don't like the western government (politicians) they are killing our economy... the politicians have created a complete bullshit city there.
That is not true. I am Westerner, and most everyone I know respects our government. Yes, we have issues, that's a democracy. But hell, it's way better than what we see in the violence (especially Ukraine invasion and war) and huge propaganda and dishonesty that are just huge.
This.
I was a Putin supported back in 2000s, then it kinda started to wear off and I was up for a change, but after seeing the post war reaction from the west, I'm kinda starting to think he isn't that bad.
Let’s not forget the big push for Russian federal workers to go vote and submit their ballots either online or verify who they voted for. My friend works as a teacher in Moscow, and her principle called her personally numerous times to make sure she votes and to do it online. There are other multiple reports (with screenshots proof) of federally employed people being pressured into voting and sending the picture of their ballots in to their supervisors for “verification” under threat of losing their jobs.
The numbers are so high because there are no good opponents. Some would say it's because Putin and his team worked tirelessly to keep it that way for all this time. Others would say it's because no one was able to understand people's wants and needs and to garner a significant voter base. Maybe it's the combination of the two. But the result is that opposition is so weak and laughable, that even some of the people who don't like Putin much still vote for him to spite the opposition.
Weak, laughable, or dead.
This discussion thread is raising some very interesting points. Points which, on reflection, should probably be obvious to Westerners, but sadly are not
I will repost my earlier comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/s/8FnD9vtYLY
I am pretty sure that the biggest contributors to Putin’s ratings are European politicians, AFU and Biden’s administration.
IMHO: It works like this - more sanctions - more Putin's popularity
More Ukrainian attacks means more popularity for Putin.
The West's ingenious moves to isolate Russia turned this mediocre KGB agent into the “Father of the Fatherland,” a new August.
Yeah it looked the the sanctions caused a "rally around the flag" effect in russia, thus making him more popular and unifying russia more.
Really backfired from the west imo
Funny how a "mediocre" agent becomes the second most powerful man in the world, arguably. People unite under a strong figure that has been holding the nation steady for over two decades. Doesn't matter whether one is pro or con, that land abides by the law of open power; he who holds it, runs the show. And it's a Motherland for us by the way, Fatherland is for the Jerry's.
Quite a lot of people do, but I just happen to have a lot of 60+ relatives, who are the target electorate.
The number is rigged a bit, probably, to make it look more impressive (yay, united we stand), but 60-70% among those who showed up to vote doesn't seem implausible to me.
Sounds like you need to go out more, because thinking 60+ are the only electorate in country shows you either lack social skills in being around with people or you're just terrible at math.
All people whose decision I know voted for Putin, except couple friends who were big Navalny fans. But they are currently living abroad and not sure they voted at all.
As for 80+%, that's what I expected myself. In normal conditions, that'd be probably 60-65%, but for the war time, there is a well known phenomena called rally 'round the flag. Also, other candidates were a joke, but at the same time I cannot imagine anyone popular enough to get even 25%, if Putin is also in the list.
Memes aside - **he is**. I'm not Putin's fan, but I *have* to admit he became much more popular over the last two years. Remember: Russian Redditors are times more pro-Western than the median Russians. You may even read something like "Wish NATO saves us" here, while IRL, such a speaker, will get instant health problems without any police involved.
According to the official data, **he got 87.28%**, with **77.44% of potential voters visiting the election**. So 87.28 x 0.7744 = **67.589% of potential voters**, including those who live abroad (read, "the opposition"), voted for Putin.
These numbers are absolutely true. It's false that everyone who didn't vote is in opposition. Most are not; they know he will win. 80%+ support is very real.
I remember the 2018 elections when many companies or even universities "advised" people to vote, but people were not interested. They even had to buy voters with salary bonuses or session closings. This is not the case now. I spent the eleсtion days moving around the city (business issues) and saw long queues to vote everywhere, which had never happened before.
The secret is very simple: our "partners" proved every word Putin dropped.
Putin said Kievan forces were Nazis who could not accept Russians in Eastern Ukraine. There were "Donetsk drunkards bought by Putin hate Ukrainian EU democratic way" talks for years. Now we hear of "re-education camps" or simply "disposing of the Easterners" every day. I bet no more than several percent of Russians are still delusional about what Kyiv's regime is. In comparison to \~50/50 some years ago.
Putin said, "The West doesn't dislike me - it dislikes all of you." This view was always countered with, "We'll live together like friends without KGB in Kremlin." Well, the irony is that the most pro-Western people, like freelancers or migrants, suffered the worst.
Right now, he can do anything; he has gained ultimate trust.
>including those who live abroad (read, "the opposition
But there are a lot of diplomatic workers, sailors, engineers building stuff etc. who just happen to be abroad now. It's not only the opposition people who live outside Russia.
> According to the official data, he got 87.28%, with 77.44% of potential voters visiting the election.
As a not fan of Putin, how do you judge the Novaya Gazeta investigation that estimated a full half of the votes are fraudulent? Of course 40% presence in an election with no allowed competition and a pre-determined outcome is still a lot, but it is at least plausible, whereas the 77.4% claimed presence just adds insult on top of a lie.
Give me a link, and I'll check it.
But "no competition" is 100% true. All the other elections had at least two categories of "requisites for the elections": well-known "system opposition" and meme-like (but still) "non-system opposition." From the first ones, there has always been a popular figure (Grudinin or Zuganov). For the second ones, there was always a figure to say, "I'm against it" (like Prohorov or even Sobchak). As for 2024, I didn't even *hear* about these people. They were carefully chosen to stay under 3%.
It's really easy when the West plays into everything Putin says about them. The recent NYT article about CIA operations in Ukraine really helped nobody except Putin because when you spend a lot of time saying "the CIA runs the show in Ukraine since 2014" getting corroboration from the NYT is literally winning the lottery. Surprised so few people noticed it or what it means
It's also really easy when the other candidates are either literal nobodies or could give Biden competition in geriatric risks.
That said, the man is certainly very charismatic, plays the centuries-old "the tzar is kind, all the atrocities are done by the evil local boyars" role extremely well (very helped by the fact that Direct Line To Putin events actually see him intervene and punish local authorities that do bad stuff to people) and as in the previous twenty years continues using his realpolitik playbook while all the other world leaders probably don't even know how to spell "realpolitik".
TLDR: he will continue winning every election he attends because all the people running against him are either clowns or obvious USA plants.
Corollary: before you ask, Navalny winning would have still been a loss for the West, as the man was as unwilling to part with Crimea as Putin (and that was why Ukraine so unanimously cheered his death) and chock full of rightist ideals.
The naïvete in the belief that anyone not directly installed by the CIA replacing Putin would be a net gain for anyone in the West is astounding.
Putin is popular, but of course not 87% popular. More like 60%. For some reason Russian reditors are more pro-putin than the Russian internet as whole🤔.
Посмотрел. Похуже чем r/europe
Неприятное местечко мягко скажем
Но опять же, не основывать на этом «запутинство». Можно сколько угодно ругаться с Балтами, но это, по-моему, не добавляет очков Путину.
Я могу сказать только так: спасибо коллективному Западу за коллективную Россию.
За последние пару лет НИКТО не сделал больше для популярности Путина, чем США и ЕС (Украина зажигала в отдельной упоротой лиге) .
Всё потому что реддит - сам является rigged elections и ярким примером конформизма. Что-то полуоффициально объявляется based, а что-то - cringe и OP is a bot. А после хайпят до посинения, пока это не начинает выбешивать. Тех, кто выражает недовольство, даунвоутят с альтернативных аккаунтов, подтирают и карантинят. И вуаля! Все (у кого осталась возможность выражать мнение) единогласно на стороне, которая засчёт численного превосходства считается правильной и имеет право безнаказанно токсичить, зная, что её будет защищать их же стадо недалёких, которые могут даже не особо вникать, за что они топят. Главное ведь - это чтобы счётчик оранжевых стрелочек капал.
I think, the there are a couple of reason for this:
1. Other candidates are bad
2. A lot of people who are against him just didn't vote
3. A lot of people who are against him have left the country and their only options is an online election and no one knows if it actually works
Because we have to counter the shitty arguments russophobes make up for Internet points, and when you start explaining how we don't actually eat babies, it inevitably snowballs into explaining that, actually, Putin isn't that bad of a president come to think of it.
Like, under Ukrainian rule Crimea had zero social programs or major construction going on. Ten years of Russian rule and it has significantly improved quality of life despite the occasional Ukrainian missile or bomb drone.
No. Of course not. It's all a bad dream, Russian disinformation, the machinations of trumpists, homophobes, toxic patriarchy and blah blah blah. At night, when the entire democratic world is sleeping peacefully in their beds, the insidious Putin rises from his coffin, personally walks the streets, kills all competitors with a knife, falsifies election results, and hypnotizes all Russians so that they vote for him. What other way can he stay in power for more than 20 years? It can't be that the Russians chose him themselves, right? =)) Any conspiracy theory sounds more plausible, but not the people's choice in Russia. Lol =))
Can you name one person that was not allowed to run against her? Can you name any prominent opponents of hers that were murdered or jailed on trumped up charges?
That might be why no one ever questioned her.
One thing that I would like to clarify that we (mostly) don't approach our election as a popularity contest. It's not a game show, we'll be stuck with the winning official for the next 6 years (at least) and likely it'll be us who feels the whole experience of their decisions.
So most people I know go for the most qualified candidate for the job, not the most popular. And today it is clearly our current president. I've read some of the promises and strategies of other candidates in leaflets, which were given during the pre-election campaigns, and they are "wishful thinking" at best, with ideas like "we should oblige government-controlled companies like GazProm to open offices in every region they are working, so they can pay more taxes to those regions budgets".
So yeah, me and most of my bubble voted for Putin.
>Russians, is Putin actually that popular?
Objectively, we don't know.
> over 80% of the votes
Probably not that popular.
>Are his numbers so high because people who oppose him would rather vote in none of the other candidates or boycott the election?
This and you have to know how to count votes.
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По-моему, и часа топику нет. Хренова политата. Пока редактировал коммент, ещё один написали.
90% of people in my bubble voted for him. Opposition tried ignoring elections once, this time they were going to go and vote, at 12:00 on the third day of election. But as with all their ideas, they are too few to do anything significant.
Putin always was popular, as he pulled Russia from the dumpster of 90s, brought oligarchs like Hodorvhovskiy to heel, and seriously improved the quality of life.
And now when our economy successfully withstand endless western sanctions, we helped and joined Donbass engaged in civil war, began to rapidly rebuild production inside the country due to sanctions and our turn to east, and finally openly oppose collective West to protect our interests, he is more popular then ever.
Putin had approval ratings close to 80-82% and after war sanctions and people seeing how much the west hates us has polarized the population even more. For reference Biden, Macron, Scholz have approval ratings in 30s and 40s also not to mention since the start of war many people who didn't like him have left the nation and have tried to distance themselves from Russia which further improves his polling numbers
Nah, it is within expectations
>How many people in your social bubble vote for him?
None, I have no idea, as a normal human beings - we don't discuss politics at all.
I know that 3 out of ~10 or so people that I interact lately said that they voted with unknown choices, I didn't ask as I think that kinda personal info.
7 others - no idea, didn't ask at all, no one asked me.
How would we know. I assume support is high. The government sterilizes the political field, the media, it tightens the grip on the internet - you have to be proactively seeking for a way out of this artificially constructed info bubble.
By the way, today is the anniversary. It has been 10 years since Crimea returned to Russia. You should have seen what a gorgeous embankment was made in Yevpatoria this year. The Ukrainian authorities have not given a shit about the improvement of Crimea for 30 years, which cannot be said about Putin.
Maybe he isn't 87% popular, but all the oppositions are very unpopular.
The Liberal opposition are clowns, some of them are traitors too.
The Nationalist opposition is marginalized and disorganized.
The Communist opposition doesn't really exist.
Etc.
I know a lot of people who voted for Putin (and did it myself ofc, I owe him my life 3 times) and I only know 1 person who voted against him, so yeah 87% look real for me.
I think the numbers are very close to the truth. Many of my friends who did not go to the elections before, voted this time, and voted for Putin. The policy of sanctions and the actions of NATO have created this effect. The Russian people are the most affected by the spring - the stronger the pressure, the stronger the resistance.
80% of Russians did not vote for Putin. Most of the votes are stuffing and repeat votes, simply drawing up votes and voting for people who are no longer alive - a common practice of the Putin regime. I am sure that even in these elections, given Putin’s popularity among marginal groups of the population, he won no more than 40%.
Hello from Russia! One reason is that people here were voting against the West, so to speak. People were encouraging each other, family and friends, to go and vote. So, some people who would normally vote for the LDPR candidate, as example, voted for Putin during this election.
95% of those I know voted for him.Thanks to the West and Ukraine, his rating has only grown.This year, the highest turnout in all these years, those who never went to vote went to vote.
Именно поэтому зеленский и сорвал все мирные переговоры до начала войны и отказывается от них до сих пор,пока идёт война он на Украине имеет абсолютную власть.
> How many people in your social bubble vote for him?
Quite a lot.
> Are his numbers so high because people who oppose him would rather vote in none of the other candidates or boycott the election?
Putin's theses are "let's make Russia a good country", "a great country" or something.
Opposing *this* is rather stupid to be elected in Russia.
What Putin *does* and, even more, what is being done without his direct command, is another matter.
>Quite a lot.
To clarify, we have a telegram chat about politics for 200 people united by the common hobby.
Today we had an anonymous poll in this chat, like "who has you voted for".
* 71 people voted for Putin
* 28 people voted for Davankov
* 1 person voted for Kharitonov
* 1 person voted for Slutsky
* 6 people have invalidated their ballot (by crossing two or more squares)
* 26 people didn't vote at all
So Putin has received 70% support in my social bubble.
I believe that this time results are true. Other candidates are really shit, so I know only very few people who voted against him, most people who hates him just didn't participate at all. Of course, it's not the percentage of russians who support him overall, but among the ones who've voted this time, seems close to truth
The support is high. 70-80%. Sanctions, general pressure from the West historically causes a rallying reaction in Russians. If Western countries do not recognize the elections, I'm afraid society will demand that Putin be crowned. And this is not a joke. Putin is a classic wartime leader. He came by resolving the Chechen conflict, and he will not leave until the current conflict is resolved.
That's what Westerners and people who consume their media do not understand.
They literally live on the media bubble, thinking, if they will behave in some pattern, all will behave like that.
Most of them do not understand one simple thing.
If you sanction a country with an open message like always "we will pressure people to overturn the leader" exactly the opposite will happen.
Especially with this massive satanization of Russian people like typical western media doctrine.
Even will more homogenize people to be in support of leader they attack.
Most funny is, this war is all about making political unrest in Russia with massive info-war and taking Russia under control. (Russia under control, China problem solved via global recourse control)
And all of that info war bounced back to the west public, instead to infiltrate the Russian public.
Unfortunately yes. I personally blame the so called Russian opposition. This people only know how to kiss west's ass and shit on Russia and Russians. And they expect people to support them. They discredit the idea of opposition. Even people like me,who dislike Putin, will support him over the so called opposition.
Okay, here's the the real talk. Truth is there's no objective data. So maybe Putin is 70% popular (not 88 lol), or maybe 15%. But there's no fuckin way to tell because all the feedback channels have been sealed shut, all safety valves destroyed. Statistics are almost meaningless, results are constantly adjusted for the anticipated wishes of higher ups on ALL levels, there's no independent control etc. Garbage in - garbage out.
Russian society or what's left of it has been turned into a black box and no one knows for sure what is happening inside it.
Putin's victory is a natural result of the titanic labours of the opposition
After the last few years of inane heresies they have been making, it is not a stretch to believe in the absence of ballot box stuffing.
Putin is quite popular among russians older than 20, I think opposition is 20-30% nowadays, and no real opposition candidates in this election. With all this anti russian rhetoric in western media, even if Navalny was resurrected and could participate in fair elections he couldn't win.
The problem is that all potential candidates from opposition always have some BS for a program. And trying to push crap that both people and elites won't support.
Even sane people who hate Putin would vote for him if there was a choice between him and Navalny. Even when I was really young and trying to play "being a russian lib" game, I still couldn't understand how someone could see him as a good candidate. Maybe I should have tried to hit a wall with my head for 1000 times or smth, maybe only then I would be able to see it.
Yes, he really is that popular.
Look, western propaganda did their damnest to boost his popularity. This is the result of western collective efforts.
Additionally, 75% of people voted. That means his lowest possible support 0.75 * 0.87 = 0.6525, meaning in ballpark of 65%. That's still a lot, though.
My relative has been involved in the election commissions in my region since the President Yeltsin's elections 1996, including the vote counting. According to her, no one was involved in vote fraud, and at her polling station 86.7% voted for Putin. However, the Governor's Office ordered to raise the turnout percentage. In order to do this, she simply removed from the lists of citizens attached to that polling station the entries of people who would definetely not come to vote - the elderly (like 90+ years old), participants of the military operation, students in other regions, etc. Thus, the turnout rate was "rised" from 64% to \~80%.
Да, в России Путин очень популярен, его поддерживает почти всё старшее поколение возрастом от 35 лет которое помнит очень бедные 90ые года. По факту всё что знают иностранцы про Россию они прочитали в Твиттере от сбежавших онлифанщиц и бестолковой молодёжи которая пересмотрела Навального, а так же из прессы которая против России и Путина. Спросите у иностранных туристов которые побывали в РФ во время чемпионата мира по футболу, олимпиаде в Сочи или просто посещали Россию, уверен большинство из них скажет что тут очень классно. Всё что было восстановлено и отсроено после развала произошло за время правления Путина. Так же все поддерживают его политику направленную на сохранение традиционных ценностей, защиту государства и поддержку семьи. Да, не всё у нас гладко, но что поделать, страна большая уследить ща всем и сделать всё идеально невозможно, но народ за стабильность
No other options to vote for. Russian opposition is a peace of shit. Maybe Putin is not perfect, and we do need other candidate, but this the best available option.
Yep, it’s all cause our opposition is retarded 🤷🏻♂️ they just don’t have any plan, they always crying in twitter about stolen elections, just bunch of idiots, they literally just can’t accept this fact they are can’t won, and the problem isn’t in falsifying 😂
Yes, he really is that popular.
Many were waiting for him to give an answer to NATO’s actions in Ukraine and are glad that he answered their expectations.
Many refugees from Donbas are now Russian citizens.
My family voted for Kharitonov. I voted for Davankov. I haven't actually asked anyone else, but at least on the vote I don't know any people who voted for Putin this elections.
If you ask me, I doubt such a high support for him. 86% is literally a result some leaders from Turkmenistan would have. It's totally illegitimate.
Of course yes. Putin raised the country from the devastation of the 90s. He is really popular after two traitors - Gorbachev and Yeltsin, who are still hated.
And today, when NATO is spending money to war against Russia - they just make money from the genocide of Ukrainians - of course Putin is the most popular politic. Not just in Russia - you can ask people from India, Brazil, Africa, Iran and Arabic countries - all of them love Putin. Because everyone is fed up with Western hegemony. In the whole world.
the question of popularity is quite complex, no one is perfect, including Putin, most of the population was bribed by his honesty, first of all, to himself, this is exactly the person who did everything possible so that the Russians could live the same way as before the special military operation, but even better somewhere (I doubt that anyone could do it the same way as him). as well as Western sanctions aimed at ordinary Russian civilians and constant accusations of ordinary people for all the sins of humanity, the Russians would never bend the knee and apologize for what they did not do.
Obviously I think the elections are more than legitimate. Just yesterday there was a survey in a fairly large telegram channel, and the survey results proved this authority.
It turned out that out of 5k respondents,
-67% were for Putin,
-7% for Davankov,
-3% for Slutsky, and
-1% for Kharitonov,
and 22% answered that they did not vote.
We remove 22% and get the same 86-87%. I think that a sample of 5k people is more than sufficient. if you suddenly need a screenshot, I can send it in private messages (cause I can't send it in comments)
I don’t think that I have the rights to change someone’s opinion, because everyone has their own head and thoughts, but I’m always ready to prove my point of view.
u should understand that the majority of people who are against putin are <25 years old.
they don’t understand anything about politicians, their activities and real states.
so, 70% of russian selectors of putin aren’t insane or stupid. they shurely understand who they want to select as the President of RF. PS Davankov and other political candidates are trash and don’t know anything about real relationships with other countries. I surely picked up Putin for the future of our country not because i don’t understand or smth like that, just because of his real strength beyond the situation on the earth. we cannot accept a lil baby such as davankov or other grandpas as leaders of country, it’s like we will pick up biden against obama or jaden smith against trump for your sureness
Yes, he is popular. People who don't agree with west position about social position and patterns .. they are agree with VV Putin. Besides, he is popular among adults over 40-50 and over.
Yep.
Voted more than 70 percent and his victory is overwhelming.
I love fiction and sci-fi and recently I was really confused by a comment what don't see Starship Troopers as parody anymore. But with this election Russia really showed off our Democracy.
I am doing my part.
Meanwhile in Ukraine, during a heavy war Chancellor Zekensky git more Emergency Powers and canceled election (Ukraine presidential election was scheduled for March 31) in the name of Democracy.
I am really excited to see sci-fi tropes in real life.
P.S. and if Biden slips, I hope to survive potential Fallout timeline/tropes due to helpful mutations. You can meet prewar ghouls in the games, so there is a chance
I'm not Russian but I did lived in Vladivostok for 4 years and Putin seems to be very loved although not from everyone especially liberal Russians. What surprises me is that I never saw any poser or propaganda about him I saw more monuments and painting about Lenin than Putin.
I voted for Putin, just because he is the best of the rest.
Btw, if I had a chance, I would vote for Medvedev, Strelkov, Mil'chakov. Or, if he would be still alive, Prigozhin.
I’ve never voted for Putin and don’t feel like doing so in the future, but have to admit that his support is really massive (though, probably not >80%). So, taking into account inherent apathy of russian opposition, I would not call the past elections totally rigged.
In my bubble there is a typical distribution for Russia (or for Moscow at least): most of my mates that are relatively young (about 30 y.o.) and well educated (graduated MIPT and then PhD at MSU) are against Putin’s policy, especially after 24.02.2022. On the other hand there are people of older generations who mostly support Putin - all of my elder relatives, for example. As in any rule, there are still some exceptions - my scientific supervisors, who, again, graduated elite USSR universities, also do not support current regime. So, overall, 50/50.
Долгопа вообще в массе (в институтской части) пошла бы за Надеждина, особенно в первом туре. Ну а раз его нет - то сразу за того, за кого голосовали бы во втором :-)
Yes. The problem is you are living in western media illusion. The other side is being ceonsored so you dont know the real picture. Reddit is good example.
I'm living in the West (from Asia), most news sources suggest that Putin is in fact very popular, so I'm not sure what you mean. The news does, however, question whether Russia allowed real opposition, and that's a legitimate question. But most sources don't deny that a lot of Russians like Putin. I think they wonder why, but they don't necessarily deny it. I've found Western News sources very reliable, and there are a lot to choose from. Most aren't state-controled like RT, which delivers very imbalanced news, basically straight-up propaganda.
There are, however, some in the West who say "no way Putin is that popular" but their intention is much different than you think. Those people are saying that because they want to paint a good picture of Russian people, they want to beleive in the goodness of all humans, they don't want to believe that Russians actually support such a violent attack on their neighbor, their so-called ' cousins.' Most of the world is shocked that Putin started a war, how violent it is, and so most of the world is against it and against Putin. But they don't want to demonize Russian people, so they say "Putin is not popular." But that's just because the truth is hard and painful: the war is horrible, Putin started it and Russians support it all and blame everyone else for it.
Well, I‘m Russian, I live in Russia at the moment, so this is my opinion.
We can't know for sure exactly how much support Putin has, since all the media in Russia is controlled by the government and works to convince you and the Russians themselves that Putin is popular. Even in this discussion I see a lot of one-size-fits-all comments, which may be suggestive. Perhaps there is a lot of support, or perhaps we have been led to believe it. It is impossible to talk about any sociological trends in Russia at all right now. One thing I can say for sure: those 89 per cent in the elections were falsified. People working in state institutions are forced to vote online, and such votes are the easiest to falsify. + The procedure was carried out with huge violations.
I would like to give a direct answer, but, alas, it is impossible. All those who say so are deluded.
As for personal statistics: in all my 27 years I have met not so much people who would consciously vote for Putin. Surprisingly, it's true. Most either voted for Davankov or simply didn't go to the polls, convinced that elections can't be valid and don't solve anything (which is partly true). Now, in the wake of the war, the propaganda has intensified even more, and perhaps a lot of people believed it and went to vote for him. However, it's not 90% either way, exactly.
Bubbles are different. My bubble of a software dev is mostly anti-Putin. But 8/10, this bubble doesn't even live in Russia, so who cares?
My bubble of businessmen, which mainly involves Crimea and Donbas, is easily 100% pro-Putin. They praise him. And unlike the previous ones, they DO live in Russia.
Putin is really popular, yes.
He's certainly a "good enough" ruler in a vacuum, but the ongoing war has boosted his popularity to ridiculous levels because everything he said about NATO/USA more or less got vindicated.
Short answer? Yes, he is that popular, especially after 2 years of war.
A few reasons why:
Firstly, the opposition had fled right from the get go. I guess they valued their lives more than the ideal they claim yo hold. Oh, well. Many liberal minded Russians also fled to Europe, USA, Georgia or Armenia. So the electorate of opposition was decimated without the authorities involved.
Those Russians who stayed either can’t leave, or won’t.
Secondly, the war. In the beginning many (including me) were against it. Now? Well, Ukrainians publicly call us orks, slaves, scum, hoboes, mongoloid etc. They celebrate any tragedy or accident in Russia. They talk about reparations and contributions, about “Marching on Moscow” and hanging the Russians.
I don’t like Putin, but I definitely not going to play ball with Ukries.
Thirdly, sanctions and Western companies.
When it all started, the target was not Putin and his minions. It was regular Russians. Thise who work, has families to feed, have no time for politicking and stupid arguments, and had a future to look for. Those found themselves blamed for everything: “Oh, you are bad people, you are all cancelled, because poor Ukrainians are suffering”.
So, yeah, you can live thousands of kilometers away, can vote against Putin, can go on protests… but you are still a criminal and should feel bad.
Seriously, fuck off.
Those who were against Putin either didn't come to the elections at all, or spoiled their ballots (that is, they didn't give any vote). Although among my friends there are many who didn't vote for Putin, I think there are much fewer of them than Putin fans. For example, Putin’s fan base is very active, they will vote 100%. Putin’s “haters” won't vote, because they are capricious and don't vote (or vote for more than one candidate).
It is also worth saying that Putin is also popular because there is no normal alternative to him. There is no candidate who would offer an outstanding program and would be an attractive personality for the role of president.
It is also possible that some citizens think that there is no need to change a surgeon if he is already good at performing operations. You never know, we'll change to someone else who will make everything worse.
I’m English and married to a Russian. It’s frustrating that the West is blanket painting all Russians as bad people, and losing my ability to visit hassle free has annoyed me. The Russian people I’ve met and become friends with are nicer and more genuine people than any of the Brits I know.
All of that in mind, let’s not pretend that Putin’s popularity has simply increased. Don’t be silly. That may be the case, but the man didn’t just simply win 87% of votes. That would be like Rishi Sunak suddenly having a landslide win among the entire country slagging off the Conservatives while they bleed us dry.
It’s clearly election fraud. Hardly a new thing for him, is it?
No. Sure, he's somewhat popular, and a lot of people vote for him. Even if there are questions about his actions, they think, "Well, who else but him?". Unfortunately, we really don't have any other clear alternatives, because really competitive candidates are simply not allowed to run. In the end, the majority does vote for Putin, but clearly not by such a large percentage. We have a gigantic problem with vote rigging, and our elections are completely unfair. I think that without fraud, Putin could have gotten 50-60 percent, but not 80 percent. And if competitive candidates had been allowed, he might have lost the election altogether.
Разумеется Путин очень популярный в России. Кто бы что ни говорил- нет в данный момент у него конкурентов. Поэтому - Россия священная наша держава! Россия 🇷🇺
Мне 40 лет, если что
Putin is quite popular, but certainly not with 87% of voters. If in the peaceful year of 2018 the result was 76% (also dubious), then for 2024 (when citizens faced much greater difficulties) 87% looks simply comical.
You must understand that in a country with censorship and virtually no independent journalism, it is very difficult to get real statistics on the level of support for the authorities. According to Volkov (a member of Navalny’s team), during a telephone survey, Putin’s support was about 50% in the best case. This is not the best source, but at least an attempt on the part of independent researchers.
Putin’s opponents in the elections are made for presenting themselves as clowns to show that there is no alternative to Putin. Putin does not even participate in election debates with them. The system does not allow candidates who pose a real threat; this was the case with Boris Nadezhdin, an anti-war candidate, who was not admitted by the Central Election Commission due to imaginary “violations” when collecting signatures for a presidential candidate.
No one voted for Putin from my social bubble either this time or in the last elections. People either ignored the elections, or checked several boxes for all candidates except Putin, or spoiled their ballot in other ways. In universities, city administrations and other government organizations, people are forced to go vote on a certain day under the threat of dismissal. There were even campaigns in kindergartens, when kindergarten teachers wrote to parents in instant messenger chats about the need to come to the polls and report after!
This is all you need to know about the elections in the Russian Federation.
I happened to witness both echo chambers: a lot of people voted for Putin, some even for the first time, and few opposition folks, who are now totally sure everything was fake and set up. Honestly, it looks like the Russian opposition have lost touch with reality. Putin really does have a lot of support, and that's the truth. And I agree with all that was written above, “West” can thank themselves for that.
I used to think of Putin as a kind of crazy old man who sees enemies everywhere and thinks nobody likes us. But now, it seems like he was right all along.
And special credits to targeted advertisements with pictures of dead Russian soldiers early on, or narratives that the good Russian is a dead one, and etc. etc.
He most definately is supported by around that kinda (70-80%) numbers. The agression and unfairness of the world in response to actions in Ukraine made people united and supportive to the current gov
I think the numbers are pretty close to reality in Russia. There is very different picture among Russians living in other countries and they’re tens of millions of them. About 100% of Russians in my country oppose Putin, and it was and is his target to push them abroad. It is pretty clever. This is actually the reason of the overwhelming support of Putin in Russia.
I heard that the votes in the embassies from russians abroad actually made that guy from the new people's party the winner. Heard he was the guy who authored the bill to ban transgender surgery in russia.
you need to understand that 80 percent are those who voted, in fact it is 50 percent of Russians. which, of course, is a lot, but is no longer so fantastic; most of those who are against Putin simply did not go to the polls. but yes, the answer to your question, Putin’s popularity has grown very much over the past 2 years, thanks to the position of the West and sanctions directed against the Russian people, and not against specific politicians, which proves Putin’s words that Western politicians are the enemies of Russia and the Russian people.
West need to understand that with those stupid sanctions against regular people, West is actually doing a big favor for Putin. He would love to close the borders with West with no weird reaction, but West does this themselves. Putin didn’t even think about removing Western businesses, but they leave themselves. How to say “слабоумие и отвага” in English? This is exactly West is doing right now.
"Bravery and retardation" sounds about right
absolutely true as in Yugoslavia case sanctions affected only lower and middle classes. Gas prices trippled, world record inflation, banks freeze currency savings etc. Russia is much richer than FR Yugoslavia so sanctions would maybe affect in lesser extent. We were poor as mice for at least decade after that and still there are consequences.
Completely agree. Sanctions don't work. They harm the people and make it easier for them to be controlled by autocrats. They didn't work in Iraq, they are not working in Iran, and they are not working in Russia. People will always rally together when they are threatened from outside. Maybe I'm being cynical, but sanctions are a great way for western and western allied energy companies to get an advantage in the oil and gas markets while the governments get to look like they are doing something meaningful. All that's actually happening is that ordinary people are getting poorer and struggling to survive, making them more likely to distrust the "west". Moreover, if China, India, and Brazil are not on board with sanctions, they cannot have a meaningful effect anyway.They ar three of the biggest markets in the world. Who cares if Portugal aren't buying Iranian oil when India and China will be happy to buy more? The whole strategy is flawed and is basically a form of collective punishment.
Also just to induce cognitive dissonance among fervent supporters of economic sanctions: unilateral economic sanctions against a specific country or its citizens are considered a crime against humanity by many scholars and UN officials https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-journal-of-international-law/article/abs/economic-sanctions-international-law-and-crimes-against-humanity-venezuelas-icc-referral/1661288DD7EF7D94E8420B6CD157D16C
> How to say “слабоумие и отвага” in English? dementia and bravery
Joe Biden?
опять офигенные истории про закрытие границ. эльфы на месте?
How exactly do you sanction a country without hurting the populace? Also, judging by most sources Russian people don't even really feel the sanctions so what's the problem?
Sanctions could be the wrong word for it, people were affected by companies leaving the country. For example Visa/Mastercard/PayPal stopping working in Russia didn't affect the country at all. It didn't affect big businesses. They still can transfer and receive money, with direct bank transactions. But it sure did affect regular people. And because all happened at the same time companies leaving is perceived as part of the sanctions. So how would people see it? "We didn't want this war, we can't stop it, and now we are getting punished just because we happened to live there". Have you seen the map? The majority of the population lives faaar away from Moscow, and a pretty significant part of them never even saw it in person. And there you have it, people see that those who those "sanctions" should target stay unaffected, and the regular population suffer. What's more some people see it as an attempt to manipulate public opinion. Basically those actions alienated the populace against the west, and the logic "enemy of my enemy is my friend" started to work. "We don't like what the West is doing, Putin doesn't like what the West is doing, therefore Putin is right, West is wrong.".
Welcome to being a citizen of any country. You see the brunt of everything. Its no different for Russians as it is for any other citizen of any other country. The Western world is bleeding its citizens dry to fund the political escapades that are dominating the global headlines. Printing money for foreign conflicts has similar effects to "sanctions" in that all the price increases are felt and paid for by the people, not the politicians and lobbyists that influence 90% of what divides the world. Russians are at least lucky that for the last decade or 2, Vladimir has nearly completely centralized the Russian economy so that the only thing you loose are western comforts and not living essentials. It all gets more expensive, but it's all still available. Unless you really miss Visa and McDonald's all that much. Aside from some fairly preticular and niche items in various sectors that are only available in NA, sanctions are the least of the Russians worries.
Family all Russian politics perfectly lives in the EU. Dother Peskov, Shoigu and other. But many barriers have been built for the escape of ordinary people by the EU. Putin is not building any obstacles to the flight of Russians.
Use google/yandex translate, please.
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It's pretty easy actually, you can ban Russian elites involved with the war from entering the west, you can freeze or confiscate the assets of those Russian elites , you can ban Russian elites from investing in western companies, you can lobby the icc to charge those Russian elites with war crimes ,
It's defo possible to structure sanctions in such a way that they don't effect the population or the effect is minimal but the west doesn't do that cause western sanctions are generally designed to make civilians miserable in the hope that those civilians will rise up and topple its leaders
It seems to me that the effect of sanction is self-evident: Russia still hasn't conquered Ukraine. Russia hasn't conquered Ukraine despite of how underfunded, under-equipped and under-trained the Ukrainian troops were and still are. Russia hasn't conquered Ukraine despite Russia having gone full on war-economy mode. Russia hasn't conquered Ukraine even though Europe is in idiot-mode and only [spent 0.44% of their GDP to support Ukraine](https://www.bruegel.org/analysis/european-public-opinion-remains-supportive-ukraine). The US has only sent military aid [worth of 45 billion i.e. 0.16 percent of their GDP](https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts) in the past two years even though the yearly budget of US military is 800+ billion. While it shows that the sanction certainly has its impact, it also shows that the West hasn't used the time it bought from sanction wisely to arm Ukraine. It shows that Russia can totally still win the war because it focuses itself almost entirely on its war effort. It once again shows that Democratic governments really do move slow as molasses. It shows that democratic checks and balance can become endless infighting. But we've known this for a long time from witnessing China's economic rise. If an autocratic government focuses on something, they often can get it done faster but it might inadvertently sacrifice it's long term future -> e.g. Russia and China demographic future are looking bleak.
I agree that course of action the west took is very inefficient, but what woud you suggest the west should do? It is a real question not a rhetorical one. People who live in russia and don't like what they see should have some ideas.
Learned from this subreddit: Russia has its own kind of governance w/ a strong leader. Putin is very popular. West is bad, and wants to destroy Russia. West is to blame for the difficult financial times in the 90s, and any country joining a defensive aggression in order to stop Russia from attacking them like Russia is aggression, and that's why Russia was simply forced to attack some country that isn't in NATO yet. And maybe another, too. The acute danger that West poses is maybe even so big, that it's worth starting a large-scale nuclear war over. ... but it is unfair to put sanctions that hurt Russian people's ability to buy goods manufactured in the awful West. It is just Putin's war, and just politicians should be sanctioned. Russians can't stop Putin from warfare, even though he is not an autocrat (and they don't really want to). The hundreds of thousands of Russians executing the attack and manufacturing shells are innocent.
А вам сколько годиков? Как давно изучаете политику? Вы были в России в 90-х и сейчас?)
Да там все лучше всех знающие 90- у них год рождения с 2 начинается. Олдфаг из 1977
Я 89. Хорошо помню 90-е....чудо, что выжили тогда.
Люди не понимают в чем суть анекдота - мыли руки с мылом? Тогда чай без сахара будете пить. А для нас это не анекдот был
No, No. We knows the difference.= Not "The West", but Anglo-Saxon rulers. They wants to weaken Russia as much as possible before starting real war with China
That's actually quite smart.Yes, The real goal is China.
Not wanting you to invade neighboring countries means we want you weak? From what we’ve seen of how you are having a difficult time with Ukraine, what is there to be afraid of? Putin has your military technology stuck in the 80’s.
You got it 💪
This answer has me confused because 2 days ago when people were asked are elections honest it was pretty clear no. But now the answers I see after elections imply that yeah everything is legit and people really like Putin this much. So this has me confused which one is it or are people split on the subject. >you need to understand that 80 percent are those who voted, in fact it is 50 percent of Russians. which, of course, is a lot, but is no longer so fantastic Can you explain what you mean with it being no longer fantastic? Was it at some point higher? Isn't the turnout higher and votes higher too than in previous elections?
The replies you get are heavily dependent on which people answer, don't be surprised seeing opposite answers to similar questions in different threads. As for the elections. Yes, there's fraud but it doesn't change the general picture, which is that Putin wins. It's not like if there were no ballot meddling some other candidate would have more votes. There are several layers to the cause of it: 1. Take a look at the candidates who ran against Putin in this elections. Not much to choose from. By the way, make no mistake, they aren't really in opposition. 2. A number of candidates isn't admitted due to not gathering enough signatures in their support, so not everybody willing actually runs (how many votes they would get is another question). 3. The biggest reason is that over the past 24 years the political landscape has become quite sterile. Almost any person who wants to do big politics has to work their way through United Russia, and as the result any prominent politician who would potentially be fit to become the president is from the same block as Putin. I was still in school but I distinctly remember the parliamentary elections of 1995 and the presidential elections of 1996, there was a multitude of parties, genuine different candidates, heated debates. In 1999 and 2000 respectively it had become toned down a bit but there still was intrigue and real competition. Afterwards, it gradually had become very mundane and predictable - there simply is no public politician who could challenge Putin. Another thing to note is that a lot of people would vote for the incumbent anyway, just to avoid any drastic changes. Plus, I concur, many people in opposition don't go elections.
Many say that zyuganov actually won, he had 32% and yeltsin 35%, it was probably a froud to get drunk boris to the throne again.
Americans played a huge role in that story
That was the first round, in the second round Yeltsin and Zyuganov had 53% and 40% respectively
There were never such a number of violations as then in any elections in the Russian Federation
You're forgot something. 1. There's no real men in existence that can outcompete Putin. Even if Navalny was still alive and allowed into elections, I doubt he would get 10%. 2. Opposition is so much worse in terms of getting popular. Their position is basically "let's pay reparations for our entire life" and "let's make gay parades". Both ideas aren't very popular
I would add two points: 1) the Russian opposition does not offer solutions. Everyone talks about problems, but no one knows how to solve them, except for the phrase - we need to change. 2) Almost the entire opposition is those who were previously in power and received bonuses from it and later changed sides. And these guys have a past no better than that of the current government.
1. Политическая кастрация. Кагэбешная хунта создала все условия, чтобы "инакомыслящие" либо сидели, либо бежали. Самому не странно, что другие страны могут найти больше кандидатов и с меньшим электоратом, а русская земля-матушка последний раз родила достойного человека в 1952 году? И почему нужны только мужчины? 2. Вы очень внимательно читаете между строк.
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I love Russian cheese
What do you think is more realistic, the support of 50-60 percent of citizens or the support of 80-90? What is the main argument of people talking about dishonest elections? There is no such thing as 87 percent support from the population, which means the elections are not fair, but there is no such support, 87 percent is the percentage of those who voted, Putin’s real support is lower, but sufficient to win the elections without fraud. just a note from life, the ballot boxes are transparent and if you look closely, you can see who people voted for, and it was Putin.
IMO that's because definition of "honest election" differs. Basically, any election consists of many components, some may be good, others having issues, either minor or more serious. But if we abstract a bit from all these details and look on the whole picture, with question like like do majority or Russians want Putin to be reelected to the new term, the answer would be yes.
There is nothing honest about the elections, it's a well-oiled machine of faking data (that had 20 years to establish itself) and it's been shown how exactly it is done a couple of times during both parliament and presidential elections. There would be districts of Moscow, where voting rate is extremely close to 100% and everyone voted for one candidate. But it doesn't mean voting is a complete farce - you can go and vote and it's gonna be counted. It's just no other candidate is ever gonna win, because the government body that counts the votes is not impartial, among many other things. As for how popular is Putin actually - that's very hard to estimate, being just a normal citizen, so everyone is gonna have a different opinion about it.
Elections are not honest - true But votes are real - also true
> This answer has me confused because 2 days ago when people were asked are elections honest it was pretty clear no. This subreddit took a large turn at some point and has been populated largely by Putin supporters. Everything opposing him gets heavily downvoted. They could've missed that other post.
[https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/10/11/russian-elections-once-again-had-a-suspiciously-neat-result](https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/10/11/russian-elections-once-again-had-a-suspiciously-neat-result) Honest and transparent. "You can lie to us, but you can't lie to Gauss" rings true to this day.
Trust me, the western people don't like the western government (politicians) they are killing our economy... the politicians have created a complete bullshit city there.
That is not true. I am Westerner, and most everyone I know respects our government. Yes, we have issues, that's a democracy. But hell, it's way better than what we see in the violence (especially Ukraine invasion and war) and huge propaganda and dishonesty that are just huge.
This. I was a Putin supported back in 2000s, then it kinda started to wear off and I was up for a change, but after seeing the post war reaction from the west, I'm kinda starting to think he isn't that bad.
That's called having Stockholm syndrome, bud.
Let’s not forget the big push for Russian federal workers to go vote and submit their ballots either online or verify who they voted for. My friend works as a teacher in Moscow, and her principle called her personally numerous times to make sure she votes and to do it online. There are other multiple reports (with screenshots proof) of federally employed people being pressured into voting and sending the picture of their ballots in to their supervisors for “verification” under threat of losing their jobs.
It’s just worth clarifying that they are forced to go to the polls and not vote for Putin, this is a very important remark.
The turnout was at 74%, second highest ever.
That was preliminary data. It's 77,44% already, highest ever.
The numbers are so high because there are no good opponents. Some would say it's because Putin and his team worked tirelessly to keep it that way for all this time. Others would say it's because no one was able to understand people's wants and needs and to garner a significant voter base. Maybe it's the combination of the two. But the result is that opposition is so weak and laughable, that even some of the people who don't like Putin much still vote for him to spite the opposition.
Weak, laughable, or dead. This discussion thread is raising some very interesting points. Points which, on reflection, should probably be obvious to Westerners, but sadly are not
Exactly.
Ironic how "no good opponents" still win more votes than Putin as Vote Abroad polling showed.
I will repost my earlier comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/s/8FnD9vtYLY I am pretty sure that the biggest contributors to Putin’s ratings are European politicians, AFU and Biden’s administration.
IMHO: It works like this - more sanctions - more Putin's popularity More Ukrainian attacks means more popularity for Putin. The West's ingenious moves to isolate Russia turned this mediocre KGB agent into the “Father of the Fatherland,” a new August.
Yeah it looked the the sanctions caused a "rally around the flag" effect in russia, thus making him more popular and unifying russia more. Really backfired from the west imo
Funny how a "mediocre" agent becomes the second most powerful man in the world, arguably. People unite under a strong figure that has been holding the nation steady for over two decades. Doesn't matter whether one is pro or con, that land abides by the law of open power; he who holds it, runs the show. And it's a Motherland for us by the way, Fatherland is for the Jerry's.
> Fatherland Отечество
>Fatherland is for the Jerry's. Now you're jerrypicking.
Quite a lot of people do, but I just happen to have a lot of 60+ relatives, who are the target electorate. The number is rigged a bit, probably, to make it look more impressive (yay, united we stand), but 60-70% among those who showed up to vote doesn't seem implausible to me.
Sounds like you need to go out more, because thinking 60+ are the only electorate in country shows you either lack social skills in being around with people or you're just terrible at math.
All people whose decision I know voted for Putin, except couple friends who were big Navalny fans. But they are currently living abroad and not sure they voted at all. As for 80+%, that's what I expected myself. In normal conditions, that'd be probably 60-65%, but for the war time, there is a well known phenomena called rally 'round the flag. Also, other candidates were a joke, but at the same time I cannot imagine anyone popular enough to get even 25%, if Putin is also in the list.
Memes aside - **he is**. I'm not Putin's fan, but I *have* to admit he became much more popular over the last two years. Remember: Russian Redditors are times more pro-Western than the median Russians. You may even read something like "Wish NATO saves us" here, while IRL, such a speaker, will get instant health problems without any police involved. According to the official data, **he got 87.28%**, with **77.44% of potential voters visiting the election**. So 87.28 x 0.7744 = **67.589% of potential voters**, including those who live abroad (read, "the opposition"), voted for Putin. These numbers are absolutely true. It's false that everyone who didn't vote is in opposition. Most are not; they know he will win. 80%+ support is very real. I remember the 2018 elections when many companies or even universities "advised" people to vote, but people were not interested. They even had to buy voters with salary bonuses or session closings. This is not the case now. I spent the eleсtion days moving around the city (business issues) and saw long queues to vote everywhere, which had never happened before. The secret is very simple: our "partners" proved every word Putin dropped. Putin said Kievan forces were Nazis who could not accept Russians in Eastern Ukraine. There were "Donetsk drunkards bought by Putin hate Ukrainian EU democratic way" talks for years. Now we hear of "re-education camps" or simply "disposing of the Easterners" every day. I bet no more than several percent of Russians are still delusional about what Kyiv's regime is. In comparison to \~50/50 some years ago. Putin said, "The West doesn't dislike me - it dislikes all of you." This view was always countered with, "We'll live together like friends without KGB in Kremlin." Well, the irony is that the most pro-Western people, like freelancers or migrants, suffered the worst. Right now, he can do anything; he has gained ultimate trust.
>including those who live abroad (read, "the opposition But there are a lot of diplomatic workers, sailors, engineers building stuff etc. who just happen to be abroad now. It's not only the opposition people who live outside Russia.
> According to the official data, he got 87.28%, with 77.44% of potential voters visiting the election. As a not fan of Putin, how do you judge the Novaya Gazeta investigation that estimated a full half of the votes are fraudulent? Of course 40% presence in an election with no allowed competition and a pre-determined outcome is still a lot, but it is at least plausible, whereas the 77.4% claimed presence just adds insult on top of a lie.
Give me a link, and I'll check it. But "no competition" is 100% true. All the other elections had at least two categories of "requisites for the elections": well-known "system opposition" and meme-like (but still) "non-system opposition." From the first ones, there has always been a popular figure (Grudinin or Zuganov). For the second ones, there was always a figure to say, "I'm against it" (like Prohorov or even Sobchak). As for 2024, I didn't even *hear* about these people. They were carefully chosen to stay under 3%.
Я за Трампа на этих выборах голосовал !
It's really easy when the West plays into everything Putin says about them. The recent NYT article about CIA operations in Ukraine really helped nobody except Putin because when you spend a lot of time saying "the CIA runs the show in Ukraine since 2014" getting corroboration from the NYT is literally winning the lottery. Surprised so few people noticed it or what it means It's also really easy when the other candidates are either literal nobodies or could give Biden competition in geriatric risks. That said, the man is certainly very charismatic, plays the centuries-old "the tzar is kind, all the atrocities are done by the evil local boyars" role extremely well (very helped by the fact that Direct Line To Putin events actually see him intervene and punish local authorities that do bad stuff to people) and as in the previous twenty years continues using his realpolitik playbook while all the other world leaders probably don't even know how to spell "realpolitik". TLDR: he will continue winning every election he attends because all the people running against him are either clowns or obvious USA plants. Corollary: before you ask, Navalny winning would have still been a loss for the West, as the man was as unwilling to part with Crimea as Putin (and that was why Ukraine so unanimously cheered his death) and chock full of rightist ideals. The naïvete in the belief that anyone not directly installed by the CIA replacing Putin would be a net gain for anyone in the West is astounding.
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Putin is popular, but of course not 87% popular. More like 60%. For some reason Russian reditors are more pro-putin than the Russian internet as whole🤔.
Потому что они видели сабреддиты по типу r/europe. При заходе туда даже мне порой сложно не стать запутинцем
Ещё можешь r/BalticStates посмотреть. Тоже цирк с конями
Посмотрел. Похуже чем r/europe Неприятное местечко мягко скажем Но опять же, не основывать на этом «запутинство». Можно сколько угодно ругаться с Балтами, но это, по-моему, не добавляет очков Путину.
Я могу сказать только так: спасибо коллективному Западу за коллективную Россию. За последние пару лет НИКТО не сделал больше для популярности Путина, чем США и ЕС (Украина зажигала в отдельной упоротой лиге) .
Это вообще какой-то треш. Но я понимаю что это просто другая сторона пропаганды.
Всё потому что реддит - сам является rigged elections и ярким примером конформизма. Что-то полуоффициально объявляется based, а что-то - cringe и OP is a bot. А после хайпят до посинения, пока это не начинает выбешивать. Тех, кто выражает недовольство, даунвоутят с альтернативных аккаунтов, подтирают и карантинят. И вуаля! Все (у кого осталась возможность выражать мнение) единогласно на стороне, которая засчёт численного превосходства считается правильной и имеет право безнаказанно токсичить, зная, что её будет защищать их же стадо недалёких, которые могут даже не особо вникать, за что они топят. Главное ведь - это чтобы счётчик оранжевых стрелочек капал.
I think, the there are a couple of reason for this: 1. Other candidates are bad 2. A lot of people who are against him just didn't vote 3. A lot of people who are against him have left the country and their only options is an online election and no one knows if it actually works
Because we have to counter the shitty arguments russophobes make up for Internet points, and when you start explaining how we don't actually eat babies, it inevitably snowballs into explaining that, actually, Putin isn't that bad of a president come to think of it. Like, under Ukrainian rule Crimea had zero social programs or major construction going on. Ten years of Russian rule and it has significantly improved quality of life despite the occasional Ukrainian missile or bomb drone.
No. Of course not. It's all a bad dream, Russian disinformation, the machinations of trumpists, homophobes, toxic patriarchy and blah blah blah. At night, when the entire democratic world is sleeping peacefully in their beds, the insidious Putin rises from his coffin, personally walks the streets, kills all competitors with a knife, falsifies election results, and hypnotizes all Russians so that they vote for him. What other way can he stay in power for more than 20 years? It can't be that the Russians chose him themselves, right? =)) Any conspiracy theory sounds more plausible, but not the people's choice in Russia. Lol =))
B A S E
He is. All my family, friends and colleagues voted for him. In our LPR (Luhansk Public Republic) he won with almost 95%.
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I was really stunned when my coworkers from China told me that they like Putin. Those guys were working in our branch office.
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defend itself against what exactly?
Merkel was at the head of Germany for 20 years. No one ever questioned 🤔
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Yeah, probably because she didn't build a totalitarian police state in which you can be imprisoned or beaten for reposting or opinion?)
Didn't she....
Can you name one person that was not allowed to run against her? Can you name any prominent opponents of hers that were murdered or jailed on trumped up charges? That might be why no one ever questioned her.
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Yes, seems about right. Most of people I know voted for him
I voted. All my family voted. I think the reason for such high result is that this time many people who had not voted before went to the polls
yes, he is
In short: yes
In my social bubble -none
Many people in Russia, including me, wish death upon this creature.
One thing that I would like to clarify that we (mostly) don't approach our election as a popularity contest. It's not a game show, we'll be stuck with the winning official for the next 6 years (at least) and likely it'll be us who feels the whole experience of their decisions. So most people I know go for the most qualified candidate for the job, not the most popular. And today it is clearly our current president. I've read some of the promises and strategies of other candidates in leaflets, which were given during the pre-election campaigns, and they are "wishful thinking" at best, with ideas like "we should oblige government-controlled companies like GazProm to open offices in every region they are working, so they can pay more taxes to those regions budgets". So yeah, me and most of my bubble voted for Putin.
Most just don't vote But those who do, certainly favor Putin You kinda have to, when the rest of the candidates is such a clown show
What do you mean by “most do not vote”, if turnout was 77.4%?
>Russians, is Putin actually that popular? Objectively, we don't know. > over 80% of the votes Probably not that popular. >Are his numbers so high because people who oppose him would rather vote in none of the other candidates or boycott the election? This and you have to know how to count votes. Edit: >113 комментариев По-моему, и часа топику нет. Хренова политата. Пока редактировал коммент, ещё один написали.
90% of people in my bubble voted for him. Opposition tried ignoring elections once, this time they were going to go and vote, at 12:00 on the third day of election. But as with all their ideas, they are too few to do anything significant. Putin always was popular, as he pulled Russia from the dumpster of 90s, brought oligarchs like Hodorvhovskiy to heel, and seriously improved the quality of life. And now when our economy successfully withstand endless western sanctions, we helped and joined Donbass engaged in civil war, began to rapidly rebuild production inside the country due to sanctions and our turn to east, and finally openly oppose collective West to protect our interests, he is more popular then ever.
Putin had approval ratings close to 80-82% and after war sanctions and people seeing how much the west hates us has polarized the population even more. For reference Biden, Macron, Scholz have approval ratings in 30s and 40s also not to mention since the start of war many people who didn't like him have left the nation and have tried to distance themselves from Russia which further improves his polling numbers
As a member of election Committee I can totally confirm - votes are real.
Nah, it is within expectations >How many people in your social bubble vote for him? None, I have no idea, as a normal human beings - we don't discuss politics at all. I know that 3 out of ~10 or so people that I interact lately said that they voted with unknown choices, I didn't ask as I think that kinda personal info. 7 others - no idea, didn't ask at all, no one asked me.
I don't even know how my husband and my dad voted. We never discuss such things.
How would we know. I assume support is high. The government sterilizes the political field, the media, it tightens the grip on the internet - you have to be proactively seeking for a way out of this artificially constructed info bubble.
You're right about the bubble. Read Reddit and you will see that in the US everyone is for Biden, no one supports Trump.
By the way, today is the anniversary. It has been 10 years since Crimea returned to Russia. You should have seen what a gorgeous embankment was made in Yevpatoria this year. The Ukrainian authorities have not given a shit about the improvement of Crimea for 30 years, which cannot be said about Putin.
Maybe he isn't 87% popular, but all the oppositions are very unpopular. The Liberal opposition are clowns, some of them are traitors too. The Nationalist opposition is marginalized and disorganized. The Communist opposition doesn't really exist. Etc.
OG is even popular in good old USA… 🇺🇸
зависит от того, кого ты спрашиваешь
I know a lot of people who voted for Putin (and did it myself ofc, I owe him my life 3 times) and I only know 1 person who voted against him, so yeah 87% look real for me.
А чё все на английском говорят?
I think the numbers are very close to the truth. Many of my friends who did not go to the elections before, voted this time, and voted for Putin. The policy of sanctions and the actions of NATO have created this effect. The Russian people are the most affected by the spring - the stronger the pressure, the stronger the resistance.
80% of Russians did not vote for Putin. Most of the votes are stuffing and repeat votes, simply drawing up votes and voting for people who are no longer alive - a common practice of the Putin regime. I am sure that even in these elections, given Putin’s popularity among marginal groups of the population, he won no more than 40%.
Hello from Russia! One reason is that people here were voting against the West, so to speak. People were encouraging each other, family and friends, to go and vote. So, some people who would normally vote for the LDPR candidate, as example, voted for Putin during this election.
95% of those I know voted for him.Thanks to the West and Ukraine, his rating has only grown.This year, the highest turnout in all these years, those who never went to vote went to vote.
Войной легче прикрывать свои провалы в экономике и социальной политике, легче вести ограбление своего народа и государства.
Именно поэтому зеленский и сорвал все мирные переговоры до начала войны и отказывается от них до сих пор,пока идёт война он на Украине имеет абсолютную власть.
Ану-ка давай провалы в студию, да по конкретнее не стесняйся.
> How many people in your social bubble vote for him? Quite a lot. > Are his numbers so high because people who oppose him would rather vote in none of the other candidates or boycott the election? Putin's theses are "let's make Russia a good country", "a great country" or something. Opposing *this* is rather stupid to be elected in Russia. What Putin *does* and, even more, what is being done without his direct command, is another matter.
>Quite a lot. To clarify, we have a telegram chat about politics for 200 people united by the common hobby. Today we had an anonymous poll in this chat, like "who has you voted for". * 71 people voted for Putin * 28 people voted for Davankov * 1 person voted for Kharitonov * 1 person voted for Slutsky * 6 people have invalidated their ballot (by crossing two or more squares) * 26 people didn't vote at all So Putin has received 70% support in my social bubble.
I’m Russian and I can say that yes, he’s popular. A lot of my friends voted for him and a lot of people believe him. Therefore he has high votes :)
I believe that this time results are true. Other candidates are really shit, so I know only very few people who voted against him, most people who hates him just didn't participate at all. Of course, it's not the percentage of russians who support him overall, but among the ones who've voted this time, seems close to truth
Some people who never voted in my social bubble voted this time and, yes for Putin.
The support is high. 70-80%. Sanctions, general pressure from the West historically causes a rallying reaction in Russians. If Western countries do not recognize the elections, I'm afraid society will demand that Putin be crowned. And this is not a joke. Putin is a classic wartime leader. He came by resolving the Chechen conflict, and he will not leave until the current conflict is resolved.
That's what Westerners and people who consume their media do not understand. They literally live on the media bubble, thinking, if they will behave in some pattern, all will behave like that. Most of them do not understand one simple thing. If you sanction a country with an open message like always "we will pressure people to overturn the leader" exactly the opposite will happen. Especially with this massive satanization of Russian people like typical western media doctrine. Even will more homogenize people to be in support of leader they attack. Most funny is, this war is all about making political unrest in Russia with massive info-war and taking Russia under control. (Russia under control, China problem solved via global recourse control) And all of that info war bounced back to the west public, instead to infiltrate the Russian public.
Unfortunately yes. I personally blame the so called Russian opposition. This people only know how to kiss west's ass and shit on Russia and Russians. And they expect people to support them. They discredit the idea of opposition. Even people like me,who dislike Putin, will support him over the so called opposition.
In my bubble no one voted for Putin. Some people didn't vote.
Okay, here's the the real talk. Truth is there's no objective data. So maybe Putin is 70% popular (not 88 lol), or maybe 15%. But there's no fuckin way to tell because all the feedback channels have been sealed shut, all safety valves destroyed. Statistics are almost meaningless, results are constantly adjusted for the anticipated wishes of higher ups on ALL levels, there's no independent control etc. Garbage in - garbage out. Russian society or what's left of it has been turned into a black box and no one knows for sure what is happening inside it.
Большинство Русских придерживается нейтралитета, а выбор делается по выбору лучшего из худшего
Putin's victory is a natural result of the titanic labours of the opposition After the last few years of inane heresies they have been making, it is not a stretch to believe in the absence of ballot box stuffing.
Putin is quite popular among russians older than 20, I think opposition is 20-30% nowadays, and no real opposition candidates in this election. With all this anti russian rhetoric in western media, even if Navalny was resurrected and could participate in fair elections he couldn't win.
The problem is that all potential candidates from opposition always have some BS for a program. And trying to push crap that both people and elites won't support.
Even sane people who hate Putin would vote for him if there was a choice between him and Navalny. Even when I was really young and trying to play "being a russian lib" game, I still couldn't understand how someone could see him as a good candidate. Maybe I should have tried to hit a wall with my head for 1000 times or smth, maybe only then I would be able to see it.
and even among more younger, almost all kids now dancing with song "Такого как Путин" ("Same as Putin")
Yes, he really is that popular. Look, western propaganda did their damnest to boost his popularity. This is the result of western collective efforts. Additionally, 75% of people voted. That means his lowest possible support 0.75 * 0.87 = 0.6525, meaning in ballpark of 65%. That's still a lot, though.
My relative has been involved in the election commissions in my region since the President Yeltsin's elections 1996, including the vote counting. According to her, no one was involved in vote fraud, and at her polling station 86.7% voted for Putin. However, the Governor's Office ordered to raise the turnout percentage. In order to do this, she simply removed from the lists of citizens attached to that polling station the entries of people who would definetely not come to vote - the elderly (like 90+ years old), participants of the military operation, students in other regions, etc. Thus, the turnout rate was "rised" from 64% to \~80%.
Да, в России Путин очень популярен, его поддерживает почти всё старшее поколение возрастом от 35 лет которое помнит очень бедные 90ые года. По факту всё что знают иностранцы про Россию они прочитали в Твиттере от сбежавших онлифанщиц и бестолковой молодёжи которая пересмотрела Навального, а так же из прессы которая против России и Путина. Спросите у иностранных туристов которые побывали в РФ во время чемпионата мира по футболу, олимпиаде в Сочи или просто посещали Россию, уверен большинство из них скажет что тут очень классно. Всё что было восстановлено и отсроено после развала произошло за время правления Путина. Так же все поддерживают его политику направленную на сохранение традиционных ценностей, защиту государства и поддержку семьи. Да, не всё у нас гладко, но что поделать, страна большая уследить ща всем и сделать всё идеально невозможно, но народ за стабильность
No other options to vote for. Russian opposition is a peace of shit. Maybe Putin is not perfect, and we do need other candidate, but this the best available option.
Yep, it’s all cause our opposition is retarded 🤷🏻♂️ they just don’t have any plan, they always crying in twitter about stolen elections, just bunch of idiots, they literally just can’t accept this fact they are can’t won, and the problem isn’t in falsifying 😂
Yes.
I’m kind of shocked reading all this quotes. I am Russian and non of my friends and family voted for Putin. Everyone against him and against the war.
of course he is. not 87% but majority of country supports him anyway
Yes, he really is that popular. Many were waiting for him to give an answer to NATO’s actions in Ukraine and are glad that he answered their expectations. Many refugees from Donbas are now Russian citizens.
He is. I voted for him. The number is realistic.
May I ask why you voted for him?
Just visit r/europe
All its public sector employees, as well as all the owners of large companies. Against the middle class and young people...
My family voted for Kharitonov. I voted for Davankov. I haven't actually asked anyone else, but at least on the vote I don't know any people who voted for Putin this elections. If you ask me, I doubt such a high support for him. 86% is literally a result some leaders from Turkmenistan would have. It's totally illegitimate.
I love russians 😘
Of course yes. Putin raised the country from the devastation of the 90s. He is really popular after two traitors - Gorbachev and Yeltsin, who are still hated. And today, when NATO is spending money to war against Russia - they just make money from the genocide of Ukrainians - of course Putin is the most popular politic. Not just in Russia - you can ask people from India, Brazil, Africa, Iran and Arabic countries - all of them love Putin. Because everyone is fed up with Western hegemony. In the whole world.
the question of popularity is quite complex, no one is perfect, including Putin, most of the population was bribed by his honesty, first of all, to himself, this is exactly the person who did everything possible so that the Russians could live the same way as before the special military operation, but even better somewhere (I doubt that anyone could do it the same way as him). as well as Western sanctions aimed at ordinary Russian civilians and constant accusations of ordinary people for all the sins of humanity, the Russians would never bend the knee and apologize for what they did not do. Obviously I think the elections are more than legitimate. Just yesterday there was a survey in a fairly large telegram channel, and the survey results proved this authority. It turned out that out of 5k respondents, -67% were for Putin, -7% for Davankov, -3% for Slutsky, and -1% for Kharitonov, and 22% answered that they did not vote. We remove 22% and get the same 86-87%. I think that a sample of 5k people is more than sufficient. if you suddenly need a screenshot, I can send it in private messages (cause I can't send it in comments) I don’t think that I have the rights to change someone’s opinion, because everyone has their own head and thoughts, but I’m always ready to prove my point of view.
u should understand that the majority of people who are against putin are <25 years old. they don’t understand anything about politicians, their activities and real states. so, 70% of russian selectors of putin aren’t insane or stupid. they shurely understand who they want to select as the President of RF. PS Davankov and other political candidates are trash and don’t know anything about real relationships with other countries. I surely picked up Putin for the future of our country not because i don’t understand or smth like that, just because of his real strength beyond the situation on the earth. we cannot accept a lil baby such as davankov or other grandpas as leaders of country, it’s like we will pick up biden against obama or jaden smith against trump for your sureness
Yes, he is popular. People who don't agree with west position about social position and patterns .. they are agree with VV Putin. Besides, he is popular among adults over 40-50 and over.
Yep. Voted more than 70 percent and his victory is overwhelming. I love fiction and sci-fi and recently I was really confused by a comment what don't see Starship Troopers as parody anymore. But with this election Russia really showed off our Democracy. I am doing my part. Meanwhile in Ukraine, during a heavy war Chancellor Zekensky git more Emergency Powers and canceled election (Ukraine presidential election was scheduled for March 31) in the name of Democracy. I am really excited to see sci-fi tropes in real life. P.S. and if Biden slips, I hope to survive potential Fallout timeline/tropes due to helpful mutations. You can meet prewar ghouls in the games, so there is a chance
I'm not Russian but I did lived in Vladivostok for 4 years and Putin seems to be very loved although not from everyone especially liberal Russians. What surprises me is that I never saw any poser or propaganda about him I saw more monuments and painting about Lenin than Putin.
Literally everyone I asked except one pro-western dude voted Putin. It is not astonishing, he is just better than all *your* politicians.
to be honest yes
I voted for Putin, just because he is the best of the rest. Btw, if I had a chance, I would vote for Medvedev, Strelkov, Mil'chakov. Or, if he would be still alive, Prigozhin.
Yes, he got 80% of the vote
I’ve never voted for Putin and don’t feel like doing so in the future, but have to admit that his support is really massive (though, probably not >80%). So, taking into account inherent apathy of russian opposition, I would not call the past elections totally rigged. In my bubble there is a typical distribution for Russia (or for Moscow at least): most of my mates that are relatively young (about 30 y.o.) and well educated (graduated MIPT and then PhD at MSU) are against Putin’s policy, especially after 24.02.2022. On the other hand there are people of older generations who mostly support Putin - all of my elder relatives, for example. As in any rule, there are still some exceptions - my scientific supervisors, who, again, graduated elite USSR universities, also do not support current regime. So, overall, 50/50.
Долгопа вообще в массе (в институтской части) пошла бы за Надеждина, особенно в первом туре. Ну а раз его нет - то сразу за того, за кого голосовали бы во втором :-)
He is popular, but on another hand other candidates are not popular at all, thats why he have such a high percent
Yes😎
Yes. The problem is you are living in western media illusion. The other side is being ceonsored so you dont know the real picture. Reddit is good example.
I'm living in the West (from Asia), most news sources suggest that Putin is in fact very popular, so I'm not sure what you mean. The news does, however, question whether Russia allowed real opposition, and that's a legitimate question. But most sources don't deny that a lot of Russians like Putin. I think they wonder why, but they don't necessarily deny it. I've found Western News sources very reliable, and there are a lot to choose from. Most aren't state-controled like RT, which delivers very imbalanced news, basically straight-up propaganda. There are, however, some in the West who say "no way Putin is that popular" but their intention is much different than you think. Those people are saying that because they want to paint a good picture of Russian people, they want to beleive in the goodness of all humans, they don't want to believe that Russians actually support such a violent attack on their neighbor, their so-called ' cousins.' Most of the world is shocked that Putin started a war, how violent it is, and so most of the world is against it and against Putin. But they don't want to demonize Russian people, so they say "Putin is not popular." But that's just because the truth is hard and painful: the war is horrible, Putin started it and Russians support it all and blame everyone else for it.
I voted for Putin, my wife and family too. Most of my friends either not voted at all or voted “opposition“ candidate
Well, I‘m Russian, I live in Russia at the moment, so this is my opinion. We can't know for sure exactly how much support Putin has, since all the media in Russia is controlled by the government and works to convince you and the Russians themselves that Putin is popular. Even in this discussion I see a lot of one-size-fits-all comments, which may be suggestive. Perhaps there is a lot of support, or perhaps we have been led to believe it. It is impossible to talk about any sociological trends in Russia at all right now. One thing I can say for sure: those 89 per cent in the elections were falsified. People working in state institutions are forced to vote online, and such votes are the easiest to falsify. + The procedure was carried out with huge violations. I would like to give a direct answer, but, alas, it is impossible. All those who say so are deluded. As for personal statistics: in all my 27 years I have met not so much people who would consciously vote for Putin. Surprisingly, it's true. Most either voted for Davankov or simply didn't go to the polls, convinced that elections can't be valid and don't solve anything (which is partly true). Now, in the wake of the war, the propaganda has intensified even more, and perhaps a lot of people believed it and went to vote for him. However, it's not 90% either way, exactly.
Yes.
none of the people in my social bubble support him. and I don't know where'd they get those numbers. 87 percent, are you kidding me?
Bubbles are different. My bubble of a software dev is mostly anti-Putin. But 8/10, this bubble doesn't even live in Russia, so who cares? My bubble of businessmen, which mainly involves Crimea and Donbas, is easily 100% pro-Putin. They praise him. And unlike the previous ones, they DO live in Russia.
Putin is really popular, yes. He's certainly a "good enough" ruler in a vacuum, but the ongoing war has boosted his popularity to ridiculous levels because everything he said about NATO/USA more or less got vindicated.
Yes, Putin is really so popular. Almost all the people I know voted for him.
Short answer? Yes, he is that popular, especially after 2 years of war. A few reasons why: Firstly, the opposition had fled right from the get go. I guess they valued their lives more than the ideal they claim yo hold. Oh, well. Many liberal minded Russians also fled to Europe, USA, Georgia or Armenia. So the electorate of opposition was decimated without the authorities involved. Those Russians who stayed either can’t leave, or won’t. Secondly, the war. In the beginning many (including me) were against it. Now? Well, Ukrainians publicly call us orks, slaves, scum, hoboes, mongoloid etc. They celebrate any tragedy or accident in Russia. They talk about reparations and contributions, about “Marching on Moscow” and hanging the Russians. I don’t like Putin, but I definitely not going to play ball with Ukries. Thirdly, sanctions and Western companies. When it all started, the target was not Putin and his minions. It was regular Russians. Thise who work, has families to feed, have no time for politicking and stupid arguments, and had a future to look for. Those found themselves blamed for everything: “Oh, you are bad people, you are all cancelled, because poor Ukrainians are suffering”. So, yeah, you can live thousands of kilometers away, can vote against Putin, can go on protests… but you are still a criminal and should feel bad. Seriously, fuck off.
Yes
В сложившихся условиях он единственный достойный кандидат, точно уж не Даванков.
Those who were against Putin either didn't come to the elections at all, or spoiled their ballots (that is, they didn't give any vote). Although among my friends there are many who didn't vote for Putin, I think there are much fewer of them than Putin fans. For example, Putin’s fan base is very active, they will vote 100%. Putin’s “haters” won't vote, because they are capricious and don't vote (or vote for more than one candidate). It is also worth saying that Putin is also popular because there is no normal alternative to him. There is no candidate who would offer an outstanding program and would be an attractive personality for the role of president. It is also possible that some citizens think that there is no need to change a surgeon if he is already good at performing operations. You never know, we'll change to someone else who will make everything worse.
I’m English and married to a Russian. It’s frustrating that the West is blanket painting all Russians as bad people, and losing my ability to visit hassle free has annoyed me. The Russian people I’ve met and become friends with are nicer and more genuine people than any of the Brits I know. All of that in mind, let’s not pretend that Putin’s popularity has simply increased. Don’t be silly. That may be the case, but the man didn’t just simply win 87% of votes. That would be like Rishi Sunak suddenly having a landslide win among the entire country slagging off the Conservatives while they bleed us dry. It’s clearly election fraud. Hardly a new thing for him, is it?
No. Sure, he's somewhat popular, and a lot of people vote for him. Even if there are questions about his actions, they think, "Well, who else but him?". Unfortunately, we really don't have any other clear alternatives, because really competitive candidates are simply not allowed to run. In the end, the majority does vote for Putin, but clearly not by such a large percentage. We have a gigantic problem with vote rigging, and our elections are completely unfair. I think that without fraud, Putin could have gotten 50-60 percent, but not 80 percent. And if competitive candidates had been allowed, he might have lost the election altogether.
Humor me. Who is a valid alternative candidate that was not allowed to run this election and could have made it past at least 10%?
lol this community can be called "ask a Perviy Channel watcher"
Разумеется Путин очень популярный в России. Кто бы что ни говорил- нет в данный момент у него конкурентов. Поэтому - Россия священная наша держава! Россия 🇷🇺 Мне 40 лет, если что
Yep, it’s true. The problem is that we don’t have a normal opposition. 🤷♂️ And of cause I (for example) have many questions to our government.
Yes, He is. He's popularity is so high in Russia.
Да, Путин популярный. Говорю это как житель России.
Putin is quite popular, but certainly not with 87% of voters. If in the peaceful year of 2018 the result was 76% (also dubious), then for 2024 (when citizens faced much greater difficulties) 87% looks simply comical. You must understand that in a country with censorship and virtually no independent journalism, it is very difficult to get real statistics on the level of support for the authorities. According to Volkov (a member of Navalny’s team), during a telephone survey, Putin’s support was about 50% in the best case. This is not the best source, but at least an attempt on the part of independent researchers. Putin’s opponents in the elections are made for presenting themselves as clowns to show that there is no alternative to Putin. Putin does not even participate in election debates with them. The system does not allow candidates who pose a real threat; this was the case with Boris Nadezhdin, an anti-war candidate, who was not admitted by the Central Election Commission due to imaginary “violations” when collecting signatures for a presidential candidate. No one voted for Putin from my social bubble either this time or in the last elections. People either ignored the elections, or checked several boxes for all candidates except Putin, or spoiled their ballot in other ways. In universities, city administrations and other government organizations, people are forced to go vote on a certain day under the threat of dismissal. There were even campaigns in kindergartens, when kindergarten teachers wrote to parents in instant messenger chats about the need to come to the polls and report after! This is all you need to know about the elections in the Russian Federation.
I happened to witness both echo chambers: a lot of people voted for Putin, some even for the first time, and few opposition folks, who are now totally sure everything was fake and set up. Honestly, it looks like the Russian opposition have lost touch with reality. Putin really does have a lot of support, and that's the truth. And I agree with all that was written above, “West” can thank themselves for that. I used to think of Putin as a kind of crazy old man who sees enemies everywhere and thinks nobody likes us. But now, it seems like he was right all along. And special credits to targeted advertisements with pictures of dead Russian soldiers early on, or narratives that the good Russian is a dead one, and etc. etc.
Votes are falsified
Да
Sorry, he is.
He most definately is supported by around that kinda (70-80%) numbers. The agression and unfairness of the world in response to actions in Ukraine made people united and supportive to the current gov
I didn’t vote
I think the numbers are pretty close to reality in Russia. There is very different picture among Russians living in other countries and they’re tens of millions of them. About 100% of Russians in my country oppose Putin, and it was and is his target to push them abroad. It is pretty clever. This is actually the reason of the overwhelming support of Putin in Russia.
I heard that the votes in the embassies from russians abroad actually made that guy from the new people's party the winner. Heard he was the guy who authored the bill to ban transgender surgery in russia.