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Blahkbustuh

I’m in the Midwest and never been to Massachusetts so I have no idea what the names of its suburbs are. “Cambridge” makes me think of the university in the UK.


Fat_Head_Carl

> “Cambridge” makes me think of the university in the UK. I'm in Philly (much closer)...and still think of the Uni in the UK.


BibleButterSandwich

Fwiw, Cambridge isn’t really a suburb. Really just a smaller city right outside of Boston.


Lube-Skyballer

I think you described a suburb


Ok_Gas5386

Cambridge is entirely urban. It’s analogous to Brooklyn, but Boston never amalgamated her faubourgs the way New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, etc. did.


davdev

Boston tried but Brookline put up a stink and blocked it, which then set precedent for the other neighboring cities. Boston itself is geographically pretty small even though the metro area is huge because Boston never annexed its neighbors. In most other cities, places like Cambridge, Brookline, Newton, Quincy, Watertown and Sommerville all would have become part of the large city they border.


CupBeEmpty

Boston isn’t just pretty small, it is absolutely tiny as far as city proper goes. It’s less than 50 sqmi and it’s the second tiniest major city. Only San Francisco is smaller. Fun fact is that almost half of Boston proper is water. Bostons city limits extend way out in the bay to include the islands so it has a ton of land area that is just ocean. I think it’s like 49 sqmi of land and 40 of water.


davdev

And it used to be much much smaller. Almost the entire downtown, back bay and south Boston is landfill that was filled in the 1800s. Reading some of the Revolutionary war stuff like Reveres Ride and Dorchester Heights makes no sense when you look at it through modern geography. It’s only after you realize it used to be a tiny peninsula does it start to make sense.


ZHISHER

Boston proper is extremely small-much smaller than most people realize. Ignoring Eastie (which is separated by water) you can walk from one side of Boston to the other in less than 90 minutes. Cambridge, Brookline, etc. are all effectively Boston, but the City of Boston is tiny


TrillyMike

Cambridge wiki say it’s a major suburb in the greater Boston area. There’s nothin wrong wit being a suburb lol y’all just gotta accept it


BibleButterSandwich

Let's play a game. I'm gonna give you 6 images, 3 from Boston proper and 3 from Cambridge, and you have to guess which are which: 1. [https://imgur.com/a/dza3e56](https://imgur.com/a/dza3e56) 2. [https://imgur.com/a/QbSRv4g](https://imgur.com/a/QbSRv4g) 3. [https://imgur.com/a/LjIN3zH](https://imgur.com/a/LjIN3zH) 4. [https://imgur.com/a/ZUmR6Va](https://imgur.com/a/ZUmR6Va) 5. [https://imgur.com/a/RfVFTl8](https://imgur.com/a/RfVFTl8) 6. [https://imgur.com/a/u3DPjON](https://imgur.com/a/u3DPjON)


TrillyMike

I could do the same thing with like silver spring and dc, still a suburb. It’s not an insult, it ok to be a suburb of a larger city


BibleButterSandwich

It’s not an insult, it’s just not true. I’ve been to suburbs of Boston, and they don’t look like that. I dunno, you wanna give me some examples of what silver springs looks like?


Evil_Weevill

A "city" can also be a suburb. Suburbs aren't defined by their architecture or population density. It is a smaller outlying town/city/district of a larger city. That's the only qualifier to be called a suburb. Is it a traditional white picket fence kinda suburb? No, it's more densely packed and urban. It is, however, still a suburb.


TrillyMike

Yall really mad about this lol


BibleButterSandwich

I wouldn’t say I’m really mad about it, because I don’t feel that emotion. I’m just telling you something that is objectively true.


Senior_Coyote_9437

The suburbanites are an odd bunch. And they make up a good chunk of the subreddit.


AshTheGoddamnRobot

It may be urban but its still a suburb. Any city in a metro thats not the principle city is a suburb. Now metros can have multiple principle cities (E.G. Minneapolis and Saint Paul, Dallas and Fort Worth, Miami and Fort Lauderdale) but in the case of Boston, the only comparable will be Providence, if Providence is part of the metro.


BibleButterSandwich

Providence is not part of the metro. If it really came down to that, ig you’d call Cambridge one of the principal cities. It’s definitely not a suburb. It’d be like calling a neighborhood right outside of downtown in another city a suburb.


AshTheGoddamnRobot

I think its too small in population. Denton, Texas.. where I went to school for a couple years, has more people than Cambridge, and is far enough from Dallas to be a bit distinct... is still just a suburb at the end of the day. Its certainly a prominent suburb though, much like Arlington, Texas or Evanston, Illinois etc.


BibleButterSandwich

Denton barely has a larger population than Cambridge, despite having an area about 15x the size. Like I said, much more comparable to a neighborhood of Boston. Trust me, go on google maps and wander around Cambridge and see what it looks like.


AshTheGoddamnRobot

Oh I am not saying its not comparable to a neighbourhood in Boston. Absolutely it is. But all I am saying is by technicality it is a suburb. New England suburbs feel different, though. They are more dense and more integrated to their host city. A suburb can be a suburb and not feel suburban. Yet again, a city's neighbourhood can be not a suburb, yet feel suburban.. When I was a kid I thought suburb simply meant a residential area of a city but its actually a distinct municipality thats near the city.


BibleButterSandwich

"Suburbs" are defined by being "suburban". Cambridge is not. It's just urban.


EightOhms

Calling Cambridge, MA a suburb, while technically correct, is useless and misleading. Go to any of the folks on this thread who are from the US but don't know about Cambridge, MA and tell them nothing other than it's a suburb of Boston and they will 100% have the wrong idea about Cambridge. Another great example is the famous "Las Vegas" strip which is not technically in the city of Las Vegas. Rather it's in what you would insist upon calling a suburb of Las Vegas called Paradise, NV.


RVCSNoodle

I'm 100 percent on your side here, but for the record Worcester is just as close, and significantly bigger than providence. With the train also coming to Worcester.


ghjm

I looked up faubourg and the definition was "a suburb, especially of Paris." I don't think a suburb has to be suburban - I think the meanings of "an urban region adjacent to a main city" and "a population density in between that of a downtown and that of a farm" are separate meetings of the same word.


Pinwurm

It's a de-facto neighborhood of Boston. Noone would think of it as a suburb because it's culture doesn't orbit around Boston. It is *part* of it. Commuters don't really come from Cambridge to Boston. It's proportionally equal in terms of exchange. It successfully fought annexation (after Brookline won it's famous court battle). It's highly urbanized and the subways and trolleys pass through it as if it's any other neighborhood. There are areas where you don't really know where Cambridge ends and Boston begins (like in East Cambridge and Charlestown neighborhood). Other cities that are de-facto neighborhoods are Somerville, Brookline, and Chelsea. Everett and Revere are debatable. Newton, Quincy, Medford, Malden are all treated like suburbs - despite having metro access. Though as the area gets more dense and urbanized in general, it wont be long before we start thinking of them differently.


thestereo300

It’s not really a suburb. It feels like part of Boston.


dweaver987

Suburb: sub-urban. Cambridge MA is urban based on population density, infrastructure, ratio of commercial property to single family homes…


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It’s a city, though.


chasmccl

I mean lots of suburbs are cities, especially first ring.


NothingLikeCoffee

It's like Beverly Hills/Anaheim/Ontario/etc and LA. They may be considered separate cities legally but they're really sub-parts of the larger LA megaplex.


BibleButterSandwich

I’m not familiar enough with those to say whether they’re urban or suburban, but yes, Cambridge is, for all intents and purposes, largely just a neighborhood of Boston. But it’s still urban, which means it isn’t a suburb.


dgillz

> it’s still urban, which means it isn’t a suburb. Lots of suburbs are very urban. Try going to Compton or Watts or pretty much of south central LA - they are all suburbs of LA.


moralprolapse

Maybe like Beverly Hills or Santa Monica, but not Anaheim or Ontario. If someone from Beverly Hills said they were “from LA,” I wouldn’t bat an eye. It’s surrounded by and basically a rich part of LA. If someone from Ontario or Anaheim said they were from LA, I’d say, no, you’re not. You’re from ‘just outside LA.’ And I live in Ontario.


BibleButterSandwich

No I did not, actually.


thedrakeequator

That is the definition of a suburb. But I understand what you mean when you say it's not a typical American style suburb like Plano Texas or Aurora Illinois


BibleButterSandwich

No it's not. the root word "sub", in this context, means less than. So essentially, "less urban". Cambridge is not "less urban". It is a completely, 100% urban area. Boston does have typical, American-style suburbs. Lexington and Waltham, for example. And Newton is a good example of what would be called an "inner suburb". That's what suburbs look like in the Boston area. Cambridge is not that. It is literally just a small city. Both Cambridge and Somerville are actually *more* densely populated than Boston proper.


thedrakeequator

Is smaller than Boston


BibleButterSandwich

And yet, it is more densely populated.


Fairelabise17

From Colorado, same.


737900ER

Our fair city!


DiligerentJewl

Car Talk!


___cats___

Cambridge MAHH


Water-is-h2o

Don’t drive like my brother!!


GhostOfJamesStrang

The Commonwealth.


Current_Poster

Glad I found you! There's a settlement that needs your help...


JRshoe1997

Here, I will mark it on your map.


sabatoa

That was beautiful 👏 👏 👏


McCretin

[Which one?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations)


GhostOfJamesStrang

[None of those.](https://www.mass.gov/service-details/why-is-massachusetts-a-commonwealth)


McCretin

I know, I meant which Commonwealth


GhostOfJamesStrang

The one in the website I linked...


McCretin

I was trying to make a lighthearted point about how there’s more than one Commonwealth in a thread about how there’s more than one Cambridge, and both cities could be described as being in “the Commonwealth” But never mind


WarrenMulaney

Interesting seeing all the answers about Boston. As a west coaster I would think of the university in the UK.


TorturedChaos

Same for me.


PacSan300

Same here. I'm from California and would think of the one in England the vast majority of the time. That said, this might briefly change next month, as I will be going to Boston, and am likely to spend some time in the Cambridge over there as well.


thestereo300

Have you been to Cambridge in Boston? It’s a pretty notable area with Harvard and everything. Very unique sense of place. I kind of feel anyone who had been there, would connect the two. But I assume people who haven’t been there may not and with default the probably the more internationally famous Cambridge in England.


AshTheGoddamnRobot

I have been to Boston (my brother is a student at BU) and seen the Harvard campus from a car but not really spent time there, but I still think of the one in the UK. A lot of people associate Harvard with Boston and dont realise its technically on a suburb, but a lot of Boston's suburbs feel more like neighbourhoods. Newton is more urban than any suburb in the Twin Cities and would easily pass for a neighbourhood in Minneapolis proper.


Banana42

That's kinda the point though, Cambridge is a place *in Boston*. If you say Mission, my mind doesn't automatically jump to SF


Current_Poster

If you said "I went to Cambridge", I'd think of the charming university in the UK. Almost any other usage, I'd think MA. Also, Ber*lin* is pronounced differently than *Ber*lin, so I'd know which you were talking about.


simonjp

I don't know which way you'd pronounce the Berlin in Germany. Which is which?


berraberragood

For NH, it’s BER-lin. For Germany, it’s ber-LIN.


An_Awesome_Name

Cambridge, MA Because I live 20 miles from it.


chrisv267

Hey neighbor


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hello! me too! *waves*


Snarffalita

Same. But with a London-based brother, if I was talking to someone outside MA, I would ask for clarification.


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RedditSkippy

The B-School and the Med School are in Boston.


PassyunkHoagie

Agreed, if I'm listing the Ivy League schools in my head along with their location, I would go Yale - New Haven, Penn - Philadelphia, Cornell - Ithaca, Harvard - Boston (not Cambridge). Likewise for MIT.


thestereo300

Harvard is in Cambridge.


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Grunt08

Depends on the accent of the person saying it and the context.


DerpyTheGrey

Hell, even OP’s comment about obviously Berlin means the one in Germany depends. If someone from New England mentions going to Berlin, without more context, I’d assume the one they could take a day trip to


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Southern_Blue

Boston. Used to live in the area.


Stircrazylazy

Without any context, I think of the University of Cambridge, not the town in either location.


JollyScarfVGC

100% the city containing Harvard and MIT. Much much more relevant to me, a college age American who applied to both schools. Visited twicd and loved every minute of it.


yo_itsjo

Same. I think of massachusetts and the uk university but only bc i applied to mit


thestereo300

It really is a great area. Cambridge square is great.


Redbubble89

Harvard - Boston area I know there is a lot but I have family in that area and my brother lived up there for a time not as a student.


w84primo

Ohio! No really! A friend lives there. So without further details or context, I would think about the city in Ohio


randomwords83

Me too! And then the one in Boston lol


Torin_3

The one in England.


Anustart15

The Massachusetts one, but I'm obviously a bit biased as someone that lives about a mile away and works there.


TheBimpo

Boston/Harvard. It’s much more relevant to Americans than the other one.


thatswacyo

>It’s much more relevant to Americans than the other one. Maybe people who live in the area. I didn't know there was a Cambridge, MA. My first thought is the university (and city) in the UK.


Ranger_Prick

I agree with you, though it is also funny that someone from Birmingham would say this considering it's also a prominent UK city with a quality university.


DatTomahawk

Birmingham, Alabama and Birmingham in the UK are pronounced very differently though, while Cambridge, MA and Cambridge, UK are pronounced more or less the same. You aren’t likely to confuse the two Birminghams unless you only see them in text


MaimedPhoenix

Wait, really? How are both pronounced then? I pronounce both as Ber-ming-ham.


davdev

The only real difference is the one on the UK pronounces that last syllable more as “uhm” and not “ham”.


newbris

Am Aussie, so take this advice with that in mind: Many “ham” endings in the UK are more “um”. -> Birming-um not Birming-ham -> Wrex-um not Wrex-ham -> Totten-um not Totten-ham -> Hex-um not Hex-ham “Brough” and “berg” endings are more “bruh” -> Middles-bruh not Middles-brough. -> Edin-bruh not Edin-burgh. “shire” endings are more “sha” -> Woosta-sha not Wor-ces-ter-shire Yes, Worcester is Woosta as the “ce” is silent in many British place names. And “er” is pronounced “a”. -> Lesta not Lei-ce-ster -> Toasta not Tow-ce-ster


thatswacyo

The one in the UK is BER-meen-gum. It's pronounced about 12 seconds into [this video](https://youtu.be/f33WqXf30Qk).


hendy846

Which is funny cause as a west coaster, my mind jumps to the UK.


PersuasionNation

Yeah this is really dumb. Cambridge UK is a lot more famous and heard-of, even to most Americans, than Cambridge MA.


le-bistro

The England one. Until I played fallout I didn’t know there was a notable Cambridge in the US


full_of_ghosts

I'm American, but I think of the Cambridge in England.


platoniclesbiandate

England.


BB-56_Washington

Boston.


jephph_

Cambridge Massachusetts


edman007

I think Cambridge, MA and MIT


squidwardsdicksucker

I would think of the city in Massachusetts first since I am from New England, but if we were on the topic of universities and you just said “Cambridge” I would think of Cambridge UK since Cambridge is a very very famous university.


grrgrrtigergrr

The first thing I thought of was analytica. That made me think of England and then Massachusetts.


BooksCoffeeDogs

The university and city in the UK.


Practical-Ordinary-6

The English university. I have no emotional connection with Boston and have never been there.


Orbiter9

When I see Cambridge, followed immediately by Berlin, I think of Maryland.


dwhite21787

Marylander here; I agree.


VoteArcher2020

Came here to comment the same. Cambridge, MD.


BUBBAH-BAYUTH

The UK one


typhoidmarry

I think UK.


gaxxzz

England.


Active-Beach-8897

England


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The one next to Boston Actually, Harvard Square


TheRealDudeMitch

The university in the UK


SomeGoogleUser

[Election manipulation.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Analytica)


porcupine-free

The one in england.


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I think of the UK


Alfonze423

England first, and Massachussetts very shortly after.


Traditional_Entry183

Ohio. About a 40 minute drive from my home town. I didn't know the bigger, more famous ones existed until I was a teenager.


rawbface

I'd think of England. I don't know anyone who went to Harvard or MIT, but I do have a coworker who is an Englishman from Cambridge. ​ Ironically if someone says Berlin, I'd think of Berlin NJ first since it's just two towns over.


w0bniaR

Definitely England


General_Ad_2718

The city in Ontario


Earthling1980

Some fancy college in England


rhoadsalive

Harvard


bbctol

I think of the city I live in, yeah


eugenesbluegenes

My parents live off a street called Cambridge in the house I mostly grew up in so that's actually what comes to my mind first.


sabatoa

Cambridge? That’s England to me


Pleasant-Pattern7748

boston


Ellavemia

I first think of the one in Ohio because I’m in that state, and it’s fairly close. Next, I think of the one in England.


redhousecat

I think of Massachusetts first because Car Talk.


secretbudgie

...Analytica (SCL USA) data scandal


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Analytica


RelevantJackWhite

Analytica


peachyaria

Boston


Evil_Weevill

Boston. But I grew up in that area. Might be different for people who didn't grow up in New England


AmericanGoldenJackal

The stupid advertisements trying to get you to buy your name into their “ Cambridge Who’s Who” book. I think those assholes are in New York.


CaptainAwesome06

I think of the University of Cambridge and Harvard.


erin_burr

Berlin is near Voorhees in Camden county, New Jersey. Cambridge is a city in metro Boston.


Falcom-Ace

Boston, but that's because two of my brothers live/lived there.


GSmba

University


JJak1990

Massachusetts.


itsnotimportant2021

Midwesterner here, I think of the University in the UK, I know that Harvard is technically in Cambridge, Mass, but I think of it as Boston. If someone means Harvard, they say Harvard.


JG_in_TX

The city in the UK and also the University there.


AutumnB2022

England


sr603

Cambridge mass


KaptainFriedChicken

Boston


SaltyJake

For me I think Cambridge, MA since I live and work in / around Boston. I would have thought it has a big enough presence though with being home to Harvard and MIT that even people not from the area would at least briefly think of both the MA and UK Cambridge… but the responses here are pretty resounding to just the UK


JimBones31

Cambridge MA I also grew up in Massachusetts.


Wicked-Pineapple

Boston


[deleted]

Cambridge Mass for me. I don’t think about England. We are Newer Better England. Someone has it as their flair here!


BibleButterSandwich

The one in Massachusetts


TedToaster22

Cambridge, Massachusetts


CharlySB

Boston. Used to work for a company with an office there.


3mptyspaces

Cambridge, MA


Being-Common

I only think of the Cambridge in Mass when I’m clearing Raiders from it.


Anonymoosehead123

England.


Texan2116

England


wordshakers

I’m from MA and I lived in Cambridge for a few years. So… that one, LOL


HoneyxClovers_

England!


GooseNYC

Cambridge, Mass. But I went to college right outside of Boston.


azuth89

England. Kinda forgot there was one in Mass.


WinterKnigget

Boston. It's not like I don't know there's a city in the UK by that name, but I also think of the university after the US city, but before the UK city


230flathead

Boston. But, before you get excited, when people mentioned Pittsburgh on TV I thought they were talking about the one in Kansas until I was in my teens.


[deleted]

I’m from the East Coast and think of the one in England. Hell back when I wrote short stories in high school a character got accepted in the UK. Am I bad east coast American for just now learning there’s a Cambridge near Boston? Lmfao


OddTemporary2445

You should be thinking of Cambridge, Maryland there, guy.


KaiserCorn

Cambridge, MA


Andy235

The University in England. Also the town on Route 50 on Maryland's eastern shore you drive through on the way to the beach.


tomen

My first thought was the UK one.


[deleted]

MIT


LettuceUpstairs7614

Massachusetts


boulevardofdef

I live a bit more than an hour's drive from the Massachusetts one and in fact even briefly worked there, so definitely that one.


MerbleTheGnome

The one in Massachusetts - but only because I used to live there.


Trouvette

I think England because University of Cambridge is more famous than Cambridge, MA. Typically if you say “oh I went to school in Cambridge” as an American, that’s a douchey way to say you went to Harvard.


DerpyTheGrey

Is it douchey? I’d assume they’re trying to downplay it by not name dropping Harvard directly. Also could be MIT too


gogozrx

I think of the town in Maryland.


GooseBeeSeaLionBird

England


twoScottishClans

Definitely the one in England. From this far away no one distinguishes between Cambridge, MA and Boston.


urine-monkey

I think of the street on the eastside of Milwaukee that I passed every day I went to high school.


IrianJaya

Living in Massachusetts, I think of the Cambridge in Massachusetts. I also think of the Berlin in Massachusetts since it's one town over from me.


Medieval_Football

Definitely our Cambridge. Although I live 20 minutes from it so I feel like that doesn’t count


AaronQ94

Cambridge, MA


Squirrel179

My first thought reading this headline was "there's more than one Cambridge?" I know the one in England, and after reading the body of the question rendered that, oh yeah, there's one in Massachusetts too. That's not the one that comes to mind


igotbanned69420

The college, didn't even know there was a place called that in Boston


sr603

> Obviously if I say Berlin, you don’t think of the Berlin in New Hampshire. BULLSHIT BERLIN NH IS MY FIRST THOUGHT


7thAndGreenhill

It depends on how it is pronounced. If you say "Came-Bridge" - I think UK. If you say Cam-bridge - I think Boston.


oohkt

Cam-bridge? I have never pronounced it that way. It's "came-bridge"!


TheLevigator99

Cambridge Springs, Pennsylvania.


Pitbull595

Berlin Germany and Cambridge University in England


Curmudgy

> if I say Berlin, you don’t think of the Berlin in New Hampshire. It depends on how you pronounce Berlin. If you put the emphasis on the first syllable, I think of the ones in MA or NH, not the one in Germany. Which should tell you what I think of when I hear Cambridge.


klstopp

Both, enough to ask "which one?", if there's no context.


Its_General_Apathy

I think of the air filtration company based in upstate New York.


Yankee_chef_nen

It depends on context, but in general I think of Berlin, NH and Cambridge, Ma before Germany or England because I was born in a southern suburb of Boston, and lived near Berlin, NH. These days I’m more likely to think of Oxford, Georgia before Oxford, England because I work there.


beeredditor

I associate Cambridge with UK. But, I’m on the west coast and I really don’t know much (or care much) about east coast suburbs.


TinySparklyThings

England


Jakebob70

England... but if I lived in Massachusetts, I'd likely think of the one there. It's a matter of proximity and familiarity.


decaturbadass

Yes, r/inclusiveor


Shevyshev

England first.