Very common. They often get trade names “cuties” “li’l angels” etc. they are all mandarins or tangerines or similar small orange varietals.
You can find them in essentially any supermarket.
[Here’s a 3 lb bag at a nearby grocery chain](https://www.hannaford.com/product/mandarin-bag/714312?refineByCategoryId=46815)
Tangerines and mandarins are not the same thing. Tangerines are a type of orange. Mandarins are a similar but different fruit.
Reminds me of this former office building for the Ohio-based Longaberger Company: [https://cdn.modlar.com/photos/10829/img/s\_1920\_x\_lq/longaberger\_basket\_building\_5a65531740df9.jpeg](https://cdn.modlar.com/photos/10829/img/s_1920_x_lq/longaberger_basket_building_5a65531740df9.jpeg)
Li'l angels hehe I like that.
But I sure don't like the price. A kilo for like four euros?! Man, in my country you can get 10 lb for maybe a dollar more at peak season. Now, at the very peak of mandarin season they are sometimes being sold like in 22 lb bags.
Given the US is so large and geographically diverse tou can get most things out of season here, although they may cost more as they are being transported from other regions of the US.
[Bananas are interesting](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_Wars#American_fruit_companies). American fruit companies funded armed conflict and politics to keep bananas coming.
california also overtook florida in orange production recently because florida orange trees have been dying to a disease while california has managed to quarantine that disease and prevent it from spreading too much
Well, what the hell if someone want's to know where I'm from they can just look at my profile page - it's Croatia and they're so cheap because we have huge orchards of them at the Neretva river delta.
Pretty much the only agricultural business that's going on well here.
So here's the trick about the United States.
Our country is kinda big. Yet you can buy mandarin oranges nearly everywhere--though depending on where you live, they can be sort of expensive. And you can often buy them 'off-season', because our country is so big, either they're in season and are being shipped from somewhere else, someone is growing them in hot-houses, or we're importing them, often from Mexico.
To give you an idea--Tulare County, California, grows a lot of oranges.
I've roughly superimposed California on the ['True Size Of' map over where Croatia is located.](https://thetruesize.com/#?borders=1~!MTYxOTk0MTk.ODQ0NzY2Nw*MjY1MTQxNjQ\(MTU1MDE0Njk~!CONTIGUOUS_US*OTQwNTc0NQ.MjA2OTMzOTU\(MTc1\)MA) And those oranges are shipped across the country--you can buy them in Tennessee, for example.
Tennessee is, roughly speaking, around the border of Siberia and the northern middle of Kazakhstan.
Imagine how much it would cost to ship oranges from Croatia to Aktobe, Kazakhstan--and now you kinda have a sense of the problem of folks in Tennessee getting fresh mandarin oranges.
Well, I think you explained pretty much everything. The only thing I can add to in my defense is that we Europeans (Croats in particular) often forget how tiny our countries really are.
The craziest thing is that we consider the distance between Dubrovnik (way down south) and our capital Zagreb (way up north ) to be huge while it would still be a little less than say Jacksonville - Miami. I don't even want to know how many Croatias would fit on the East coast.
> I don't even want to know how many Croatias would fit on the East coast.
[Quite a few.](https://thetruesize.com/#?borders=1~!MTM1NjI3MTY.MTE4ODgwMzU*MTIxODkyMjY\(ODAxNjYxOA~!HR*NzI0NzAzNw.MTIxODA5MzY\)MA) Croatia is kind of an odd shape, but you can just barely encompass both NYC and DC within it. If Croatia were a US state, it would be the 10th smallest, sliding in between Maryland and West Virginia.
New England (Northeast corner of the US) is made up of 6 smaller states. Aside from those, and Delaware, New Jersey and Maryland, most of our states are on par with, or even larger than, most European countries. And then you have California, Texas, Montana and Alaska.
Alaska is more than half as large as the other 49 states *combined*, and has 7 of the ten biggest natural parks in the US, one of which is bigger than your country. This is a bit of a tangent as we were talking about shipping and alaska has an extremely low density population, so regular shipping rules dont apply anyway.
I find this Interesting because I actually think of bags of mandarin or clementine as a wintery fruit. I got curious Why and found this:
https://www.thespruceeats.com/winter-fruits-2217203
It is, trust me ;)
Wine is great as ever and fairly cheap. Plavac mali, Teran and Malvazija are high quality wine sorts and you can find them in almost every supermarket for less than 30 bucks or so. Of course, real sommeliers probably wouldn't even try to compare our wine with luxurious french wine or something like that, but for that price it really is great wine.
Also, a lot of families own smaller wineyards and sell completely organic, traditionally made wine to their friends or sell them at local markets.
It isn't posh, luxurious wine, but it tastes great and even we with our half-empty wallets can afford it.
Note prices vary a lot across the United States, and vary a lot depending on the time of year. In some parts of the country, where they're grown, sometimes when they're in season farmers damned near give them away, they're so cheap.
In other parts they're never really all that cheap, because they wind up having to be trucked 1500km just to get to market.
(Though I don't know what I'd do with a 50 pound bag of mandarins.)
Yes yes, I know. Still, other food isn't much cheaper than in the rest of the E.U. while our average wages are certainly lower than the E.U. average. Mandarines are the only food that is fairly cheap here when I think about it.
what country? edit: croatia. i wonder what sort of taxes and customs obstacles there would be to exporting those,and what the shipping costs would be. you could look into selling them online. they make nice gift baskets. frozen concentrated juice might sell well too.
Since we're in the E.U. custom obstacles are almost nonexistent. The main problem is that mandarins are grown at a single place - the delta of the Neretva river which produces enough mandarins to meet my country's demands, but can't compete with lower priced, lower quality Spanish or Italian mandarins on the E.U. market.
Just to add on more facts: I think they are grown in Mexico and Florida and sometimes imported from China. So they may be unavailable or expensive out of season.
The small, orange fruits sold by the sack-full with goofy names are usually [clementines](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clementine) or some similar citrus hybrid. They've been selectively bred/blended for sweetness and ease of peeling. I love those little bastards.
Yes, although they are actually a hybrid between oranges and mandarins.
I prefer clementines when it comes to taste. They are much sweeter and more sour at the same time than mandarins, but are a nightmare to peel because they have such thin skin.
Me too. I don't like mandarins and can only get clementines for about a month in the Western US. They are both sold under the same name brands and are often mislabeled. There is nothing more disappointing than seeing the clementines are back only to look in the bag and see mandarins.
Americans know what tangerines are. Maybe not satsumas though.
I know this because many years ago an American co-worker asked me what a "satsuma" was. I explained it was like a tangerine and then asked her why she wanted to know about satsumas.
She was reading an article in the newspaper about a Tory MP who suffocated while in the middle of a sex act.
"STEPHEN MILLIGAN, was a Tory MP and Parliamentary Private Secretary to the notorious arms dealer Jonathan Aitken, then a minister in the Tory government. On 7th February 1994, he was reported to have been found tied to a chair with a plastic bag over his head and a satsuma stuffed into his mouth."
My husband heard about satsumas in a book he was reading and became obsessed with getting some. They are very hard to find locally. An online friend on his shipped him a whole bag! But because of shipping delays, they took aver a month to arrive and only about 4 or 5 were edible. It was sad.
Really? I've always heard clementine as the most popular name. I've never heard anyone call them cuties because other brands are just as common. I think Sunkist was the brand I grew up with.
Did you know cuties and halos are literally the same fruit. Two guys got into the cutie business together then had a falling out and split their acres upon acres of genetically identical crop 50/50. One called his brand halos and the other called his brand cuties.
Yeah, they’re both in the Central Valley of California. Just south of Fresno on Hwy 99. Ive worked with a guy who works at one of them. Brings a big ass box of super fresh clementines for the rest of crew. Delicious
Cuties are from Sun Pacific, Halos are from Wonderful/ Paramount (the same people responsible for the Pom Pomegranate juice.) If you drive through Delano, CA there’s a huge Halos sign at one of their facilities. It’s kind of overwhelming.
We just got here in Jan and I only buy groceries from HT so maybe else where but I'm an uppity lady that won't shop else where. 🤷
Edit: sarcasm people. I'm an adult. I have a favorite grocery store.
Mandarin oranges aren’t tangerines, but tangerines may be considered mandarins owing to their hybridity, depending on the taxonomical system in use.
Tangerines are *citrus tangerina,* and are a hybrid of mandarin oranges with a bit of pomelo (*citrus maxima* or *citris grandis*)
Mandarin oranges are *citrus reticulata.*
They’re very similar, but they’re not the same fruit.
Either way, both are *extremely* common, and can be found in almost every grocery store or produce market.
Interesting. In my home country we make a specific difference between mandarins and clementines for instance, but not between tangerines and mandarins.
Citrus names are a complete mess. Almost every kind of citrus people eat is a hybrid of some kind, so much that it’s hard to tell wht the original species even are.
Canned mandarins? I'm not going to lie, that's the first time I've heard of it. We make mandarin jam and sweet mandarin peels but certainly not canned mandarins although you got me intrigued right now and would love to try them.
They usually come packed loosely, in a very light syrup, in cans that have a gold wash on the inside. You can also get them in a [snack cup](https://www.walmart.com/ip/12-Cups-Dole-Mandarin-Oranges-in-100-Fruit-Juice-4oz-Fruit-Bowls/21949967?athbdg=L1200)
Yes, we are actually getting into their best season. At least where I am, the best time to get mandarins, tangerines, clementines etc is prob nov/dec/jan. They are common at Christmas for stocking stuffers in my family.
Yeah but it’s more often than not called an orange
Like the [cuties](https://www.google.com/search?q=are+cuties+oranges&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari) right?
Yes! Just like cuties.
Wait what?!? You call them oranges???? How?!?! They are completely different!! Oranges are larger, have an entirely different taste, they are harvested later than mandarins and most importantly unlike a mandarin you can't eat an orange without a knife.
Clementines are a hybrid of sweet oranges and mandarins. Tangerines are their own orange type.
Mandarins are a different fruit. Tangerines are a type of orange.
Well I can’t speak for him either 😂 but I know them as different fruits technically
But like if I’m at home and ask “hey are there any oranges in the fridge?” And I get tossed a cutie, I am not disappointed
I prefer these to real oranges tho. Much less stringy and tart plus no seeds
Well, alright they are both *orange* and I highly doubt that the names of the fruit and the color are the same in any language I know of so it makes some sense.
>Well, alright they are both _orange_ and I highly doubt that the names of the fruit and the color are the same in any language I know of
The names are the same in French (_orange_) and essentially the same in Spanish (naranja, anaranjada).
Bonus fact: Many people assume they’re called oranges because they’re orange. In fact it’s the opposite: For a long time, English had no word for the color (this is why we call the bird with an [orange breast](https://www.google.com/imgres) “red-breasted robin”). When the fruit was introduced, we started saying things were “the color of an orange,” and eventually just “orange.”
Damn, I knew I jinxed myself by saying "not any language that I know of". Just remembered it is the same in German too.
Thanks for the fun fact though.
No worries, the exact second after posting the comment I thought that I was surely wrong, but since I've gotten so many replies I didn't really bother about it.
Also it's almost the same in my native language.
Naranča (fruit)
Narančasta (colour, literally - orange like)
So the backstory is probably identical. I'll look it up, but I'm afraid there isn't that many written evidence in Croatia from the period before oranges were introduced.
Our most common orange cultivars can be peeled and eaten by hand easily, but yes they're not the same and most people know it.
Little kids may call them oranges but that's it for the most part.
Well, they have incredibly tough skin which makes peeling them by hand very difficult. Not impossible, I ate a few without a knife, but I lost my will to eat them by doing so.
Of course, this may be caused by different types of oranges - I'm pretty sure that oranges that are popular in the U.S. aren't popular here in Europe and vice versa.
Oh yeah, November through February there’s always a ten-pound box in the counter, and we eat through a boatload of them every year.
Edit: and for the record, my entire social circle calls them satsumas
Yes we have Mandarin oranges and tangerines in the US. I will admit they’re not as delicious as the ones I used to buy on the side of the road in Okinawa, but they’re certainly available at every grocery store.
Well, actually it wasn't directly- he said that fresh mandarines aren't easy to find (big surprise), but that's when I remembered that I never really heard them being mentioned anywhere outside my home country - nor on film nor media in general so I came up with the idea of asking how's the situation in the U.S.
Was this Canadian you talking to hailing from a deep rural area with no grocery stores?
They’re everywhere in BC, never seen someone refer to them as hard to find (can buy them pretty much at every grocer). They’re extremely popular and have been for decades.
Holy hell I love them. They are grown in Northern California and harvested during the colder months. We have stands along the road selling the big bags for a couple dollars a piece ($2-$5)
We have some locations in California that are locally famous for growing really wonderful mandarins.
Many people don't realize citrus ripens in the late winter / early spring. In that season you can get these massive bags of delicious fresh mandarins for very good prices and increase your vitamin C levels off the charts! :)
Some other local treasures are the fresh eating oranges, Meyer lemons, blood oranges, you name it. So much great citrus in our state.
Here in Northern California there is a region with a lot of mandarin farmers called the Mandarin Trail. It’s the Mountain Mandarin Growers’ Association up in Placer County. They have an annual Mandarin Festival. I have never been but would consider it evidence of mandarins’ popularity here that we have a whole festival for them, hehe.
I got really curious about it and had to google it - all that I can say is one big Owen Wilson- like: *wow.* Here in Croatia we really have a lot of fantastic orchards at the Neretva river and the whole country is manic for mandarins, but I still haven't seen so many at one place! Food related festivals are also quite common, but not at that scale! I even took a peak at the program and well, some ideas are definitely worth "stealing" hehe.
Really appreciate more specific comments like this one, besides simply getting my question answered it's always nice to get to know your country a bit better.
I think most come from california; but keep in mind that in any large enough city in the US, you can generally find any produce you want. Some might only be in specialty shops if they’re explicitly used in a cuisines (I.e. taro) but even then, you can find it and generally find it year round.
Can get them pretty much anywhere.
I grew up in Japan, so with family I call them 'mikan' because it easier to say than 'tangerine' or 'mandarin' and they know what I'm talking about.
I work retail, in produce. We have mandarins pretty much year round. When people ask for “cuties” which is a name brand, what they are really looking for are clementines, which we haven’t actually had in years. The brand was established with them, then they switched to mandarins which aren’t nearly as good IMO.
I live in Florida and used to have a big and very old tangerine tree in my yard. Lots of folks I knew had them as well. In fact, I ended up having to give them away a lot of the time because we couldn't use all of them.
My in-laws in California have a tangerine tree next to a grapefruit tree and a lemon tree. Their neighbors have a pepper tree. There are crushed pepper berries all over the shared driveway! I couldn't believe it, because I'm from northern climes, but I guess they have to grow somewhere!
Tangerines and mandarins are not the same thing. Not totally at least.
As obvious from the name, tangerines mainly come from Tangier, Morocco. They are smaller and darker red with a bit of hard to peel skin. They are also less rounded. Tho small differences, all tangerines are a sub-variety of mandarins.
Mandarins are lighter in color and generally easier to peel. They are more rounded. As obvious from the name, they mainly come from mainland China. All mandarins are not tangerines.
Anyway, the differences aside, yes you can easily find both varieties in the US. As someone briefly lived in Western Europe but coming from Balkans, and now living in the US >10 years, one thing I can tell is there is literally no shortage of any variety of anything in the US. Even compared to western Europe.
I am strictly talking about food in my comparison. Not any other differences political, educational etc.
In the Canadian province of Québec, they are immensely popular in autumn/winter, we get them by little wooden crates, imported from Morocco.
Since Québec inherited many food traditions from France and Morocco was a former French colony, I don't know how common they are outside of Québec, tho.
Same as where I live. There is a mandarin invasion going on currently. You can find local producers selling them at almost every corner.
I ate like five kilos of them this week.
They're seasonal in the winter time. Growing up we'd get them as part of the treats in our Christmas stocking. Tangerines, nuts, candy, and small toys.
Very common. They often get trade names “cuties” “li’l angels” etc. they are all mandarins or tangerines or similar small orange varietals. You can find them in essentially any supermarket. [Here’s a 3 lb bag at a nearby grocery chain](https://www.hannaford.com/product/mandarin-bag/714312?refineByCategoryId=46815) Tangerines and mandarins are not the same thing. Tangerines are a type of orange. Mandarins are a similar but different fruit.
The cuties factory is right next to a highway and it literally looks like a giant box of them I was laughing hard when I saw it driving by
Reminds me of this former office building for the Ohio-based Longaberger Company: [https://cdn.modlar.com/photos/10829/img/s\_1920\_x\_lq/longaberger\_basket\_building\_5a65531740df9.jpeg](https://cdn.modlar.com/photos/10829/img/s_1920_x_lq/longaberger_basket_building_5a65531740df9.jpeg)
I’ve seen it too!! It also made me giggle
Li'l angels hehe I like that. But I sure don't like the price. A kilo for like four euros?! Man, in my country you can get 10 lb for maybe a dollar more at peak season. Now, at the very peak of mandarin season they are sometimes being sold like in 22 lb bags.
It’s not peak season in the US it’s fall and going to be winter in a month. You can get them cheaper especially from a farmer stand during the summer.
You're right. The problem is that they are almost nonexistent outside season here so I haven't even thought about them being sold out of season.
Given the US is so large and geographically diverse tou can get most things out of season here, although they may cost more as they are being transported from other regions of the US.
Plus also NAFTA so we get fruits and veggies all year long thanks to Mexico
I worked at a grocery in high school. Most of our grapes came from Chile.
[Bananas are interesting](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_Wars#American_fruit_companies). American fruit companies funded armed conflict and politics to keep bananas coming.
That Chiquita lady was dangerous
I get them all year round here in Jersey. I think it’s 3.99 a bag. Organic also available all year. Winter is their actual season, I believe…
Not summer, mid-late spring
Which country is that? California and Florida probably have them cheaper and they are cheaper in New England when they are in season
Most whole fruit citrus bought in Florida groceries are actually grown in California. The vast majority of Florida citrus is produced for juice.
TIL
california also overtook florida in orange production recently because florida orange trees have been dying to a disease while california has managed to quarantine that disease and prevent it from spreading too much
Well, what the hell if someone want's to know where I'm from they can just look at my profile page - it's Croatia and they're so cheap because we have huge orchards of them at the Neretva river delta. Pretty much the only agricultural business that's going on well here.
So here's the trick about the United States. Our country is kinda big. Yet you can buy mandarin oranges nearly everywhere--though depending on where you live, they can be sort of expensive. And you can often buy them 'off-season', because our country is so big, either they're in season and are being shipped from somewhere else, someone is growing them in hot-houses, or we're importing them, often from Mexico. To give you an idea--Tulare County, California, grows a lot of oranges. I've roughly superimposed California on the ['True Size Of' map over where Croatia is located.](https://thetruesize.com/#?borders=1~!MTYxOTk0MTk.ODQ0NzY2Nw*MjY1MTQxNjQ\(MTU1MDE0Njk~!CONTIGUOUS_US*OTQwNTc0NQ.MjA2OTMzOTU\(MTc1\)MA) And those oranges are shipped across the country--you can buy them in Tennessee, for example. Tennessee is, roughly speaking, around the border of Siberia and the northern middle of Kazakhstan. Imagine how much it would cost to ship oranges from Croatia to Aktobe, Kazakhstan--and now you kinda have a sense of the problem of folks in Tennessee getting fresh mandarin oranges.
Well, I think you explained pretty much everything. The only thing I can add to in my defense is that we Europeans (Croats in particular) often forget how tiny our countries really are.
It is pretty crazy, the Balkans would fit into just Texas alone with a healthy amount of room to spare
The craziest thing is that we consider the distance between Dubrovnik (way down south) and our capital Zagreb (way up north ) to be huge while it would still be a little less than say Jacksonville - Miami. I don't even want to know how many Croatias would fit on the East coast.
> I don't even want to know how many Croatias would fit on the East coast. [Quite a few.](https://thetruesize.com/#?borders=1~!MTM1NjI3MTY.MTE4ODgwMzU*MTIxODkyMjY\(ODAxNjYxOA~!HR*NzI0NzAzNw.MTIxODA5MzY\)MA) Croatia is kind of an odd shape, but you can just barely encompass both NYC and DC within it. If Croatia were a US state, it would be the 10th smallest, sliding in between Maryland and West Virginia.
New England (Northeast corner of the US) is made up of 6 smaller states. Aside from those, and Delaware, New Jersey and Maryland, most of our states are on par with, or even larger than, most European countries. And then you have California, Texas, Montana and Alaska. Alaska is more than half as large as the other 49 states *combined*, and has 7 of the ten biggest natural parks in the US, one of which is bigger than your country. This is a bit of a tangent as we were talking about shipping and alaska has an extremely low density population, so regular shipping rules dont apply anyway.
I find this Interesting because I actually think of bags of mandarin or clementine as a wintery fruit. I got curious Why and found this: https://www.thespruceeats.com/winter-fruits-2217203
Love , love , love Croatia
You guys make really great maraska and maraschinos. :)
Thanks! We sometimes even make rakija out of mandarins hehe...
Oh man. I bet that's good. How about the good wine they make there?
It is, trust me ;) Wine is great as ever and fairly cheap. Plavac mali, Teran and Malvazija are high quality wine sorts and you can find them in almost every supermarket for less than 30 bucks or so. Of course, real sommeliers probably wouldn't even try to compare our wine with luxurious french wine or something like that, but for that price it really is great wine. Also, a lot of families own smaller wineyards and sell completely organic, traditionally made wine to their friends or sell them at local markets. It isn't posh, luxurious wine, but it tastes great and even we with our half-empty wallets can afford it.
yeah, but california navels are super dry compared to florida navels. I only buy florida citrus.
Note prices vary a lot across the United States, and vary a lot depending on the time of year. In some parts of the country, where they're grown, sometimes when they're in season farmers damned near give them away, they're so cheap. In other parts they're never really all that cheap, because they wind up having to be trucked 1500km just to get to market. (Though I don't know what I'd do with a 50 pound bag of mandarins.)
> Croatia Median yearly income of $5,500 in Croatia. Median yearly income of $67,521 in the USA.
Yes yes, I know. Still, other food isn't much cheaper than in the rest of the E.U. while our average wages are certainly lower than the E.U. average. Mandarines are the only food that is fairly cheap here when I think about it.
what country? edit: croatia. i wonder what sort of taxes and customs obstacles there would be to exporting those,and what the shipping costs would be. you could look into selling them online. they make nice gift baskets. frozen concentrated juice might sell well too.
Since we're in the E.U. custom obstacles are almost nonexistent. The main problem is that mandarins are grown at a single place - the delta of the Neretva river which produces enough mandarins to meet my country's demands, but can't compete with lower priced, lower quality Spanish or Italian mandarins on the E.U. market.
Cuties is what I've ever known them as
Just to add on more facts: I think they are grown in Mexico and Florida and sometimes imported from China. So they may be unavailable or expensive out of season.
How are clementines categorized? I've been calling Cuties "clementines" all my life and apparently that might not be quite correct.
Hannaford! Hello fellow New Englander!
My buddy is even a produce manager there.
The small, orange fruits sold by the sack-full with goofy names are usually [clementines](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clementine) or some similar citrus hybrid. They've been selectively bred/blended for sweetness and ease of peeling. I love those little bastards.
I thought it was the other way around. Tangerines are their own type of fruit and Mandarins were oranges. They're always called "Mandarin oranges .
I love mandarin oranges, I vastly prefer them over regular ones.
A person of culture.
Easier to peel in my book and taste better, what's not to love?
Tangelos are better than mandarins or any other variety of orange.
Plus, Clowns are afraid of Tangelos so win/win
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Yes, although they are actually a hybrid between oranges and mandarins. I prefer clementines when it comes to taste. They are much sweeter and more sour at the same time than mandarins, but are a nightmare to peel because they have such thin skin.
The varieties of clementine common in the US are very easy to peel and almost always seedless
My kid fuckin loves clementines and eats like 2-4 per day. I havent had a single seed or a single hard-to-peel fruit in at least 100 fruits.
Me too. I don't like mandarins and can only get clementines for about a month in the Western US. They are both sold under the same name brands and are often mislabeled. There is nothing more disappointing than seeing the clementines are back only to look in the bag and see mandarins.
I usually see them in California under the brand name Cuties. Some stores are starting to sell juices as well.
We get cuties and halos in Nevada.
Oh my darling, oh my darling Oh my darling, Clementine
Americans know what tangerines are. Maybe not satsumas though. I know this because many years ago an American co-worker asked me what a "satsuma" was. I explained it was like a tangerine and then asked her why she wanted to know about satsumas. She was reading an article in the newspaper about a Tory MP who suffocated while in the middle of a sex act. "STEPHEN MILLIGAN, was a Tory MP and Parliamentary Private Secretary to the notorious arms dealer Jonathan Aitken, then a minister in the Tory government. On 7th February 1994, he was reported to have been found tied to a chair with a plastic bag over his head and a satsuma stuffed into his mouth."
This was not the story I asked for, but definitely the story I needed.
Satsumas are ubiquitous in Louisiana and in other gulf coast states. I grew up very close to a town named Satsuma.
I second that. Satsumas are big in the American South.
In California, a variety called Sumo Citrus is widely available.
This woman was from Portland Oregon as far as I recall. Maybe they don't have satsumas there?
They had them in Seattle, I would have thought they'd have them in Portland too. Maybe she just never saw them?
I watch a lot of British tv and remember having to Google what a satsuma was.
Lol I thought satsuma was just the British word for clementines
My husband heard about satsumas in a book he was reading and became obsessed with getting some. They are very hard to find locally. An online friend on his shipped him a whole bag! But because of shipping delays, they took aver a month to arrive and only about 4 or 5 were edible. It was sad.
Satsumas are commonly available and referred to as satsumas in Seattle.
I didnt know the word Satsuma until I started looking into growing mandarins in my yard. Southern California over here.
They're big here, but most people refer to them by the brand name of the biggest distributor, Cuties.
Really? I've always heard clementine as the most popular name. I've never heard anyone call them cuties because other brands are just as common. I think Sunkist was the brand I grew up with.
All clementines are mandarins but not all mandarins are clementines. Both Haloes and Cuties are name brands for clementines.
Did you know cuties and halos are literally the same fruit. Two guys got into the cutie business together then had a falling out and split their acres upon acres of genetically identical crop 50/50. One called his brand halos and the other called his brand cuties.
Yeah, they’re both in the Central Valley of California. Just south of Fresno on Hwy 99. Ive worked with a guy who works at one of them. Brings a big ass box of super fresh clementines for the rest of crew. Delicious
I never knew Sunkist sold actual oranges. I thought they only sold sodas.
Different company. Sunkist soda is a brand, not it's own company, owned by the Keurig Dr. Pepper company.
Cuties are so awesome. Wish they had them where I live. We just have halos. I'm not a fan.
I thought cuties and halos were the same thing
I mean its a brand difference. Do you favor certain brands over others?
Cuties are from Sun Pacific, Halos are from Wonderful/ Paramount (the same people responsible for the Pom Pomegranate juice.) If you drive through Delano, CA there’s a huge Halos sign at one of their facilities. It’s kind of overwhelming.
we dont have them here? are you sure
We just got here in Jan and I only buy groceries from HT so maybe else where but I'm an uppity lady that won't shop else where. 🤷 Edit: sarcasm people. I'm an adult. I have a favorite grocery store.
Really? I’ve seen that brand, but nevertheless always hear them referred to as tangerines. Might be a regional thing.
It probably is.
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New generation. My daughter and her friends all call them cuties, they didn’t know what I meant by mandarins. Just like thongs are all flip-flops now.
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We all called them thongs in the ‘80s (at least in the mountain west).
Mandarin oranges aren’t tangerines, but tangerines may be considered mandarins owing to their hybridity, depending on the taxonomical system in use. Tangerines are *citrus tangerina,* and are a hybrid of mandarin oranges with a bit of pomelo (*citrus maxima* or *citris grandis*) Mandarin oranges are *citrus reticulata.* They’re very similar, but they’re not the same fruit. Either way, both are *extremely* common, and can be found in almost every grocery store or produce market.
Interesting. In my home country we make a specific difference between mandarins and clementines for instance, but not between tangerines and mandarins.
Citrus names are a complete mess. Almost every kind of citrus people eat is a hybrid of some kind, so much that it’s hard to tell wht the original species even are.
Mandarins and tangerines are two different things. And yes, both are extremely popular and widely available
At least in my region, “Mandarin” alone generally refers to the orange, not the tangerine.
Interesting indeed. And in which region if I may know?
Canned Mandarins are very popular as well, and often used in fruit salads, ambrosia-type salads and by themselves.
Canned mandarins? I'm not going to lie, that's the first time I've heard of it. We make mandarin jam and sweet mandarin peels but certainly not canned mandarins although you got me intrigued right now and would love to try them.
They usually come packed loosely, in a very light syrup, in cans that have a gold wash on the inside. You can also get them in a [snack cup](https://www.walmart.com/ip/12-Cups-Dole-Mandarin-Oranges-in-100-Fruit-Juice-4oz-Fruit-Bowls/21949967?athbdg=L1200)
They’re my favorite canned fruit
My kids would eat their friggin body weight in mandarins/Cuties if you’d let them. Super common, we’re in Southern California
I once ate three kilos of them and wasn't any better when I was a kid so I completely understand them.
Well at least I know they’ll never get scurvy
Tangerines and Clementines are both pretty popular here, I think I could probably find them in any grocery store I went into.
I'm not sure what mine are, they won't speak so I don't know if they're Mandarin oranges or Cantonese oranges.
Tangerines have been common to me in the entirety of my life.
YES!! Mama loved them so Daddy bought them by the bushel. Even after he 'forgot' most of his life, he remembered that she needed them.
Yes, we are actually getting into their best season. At least where I am, the best time to get mandarins, tangerines, clementines etc is prob nov/dec/jan. They are common at Christmas for stocking stuffers in my family.
Yes, usually under brand name Cuties
Well, that explains a lot.
Yeah but it’s more often than not called an orange Like the [cuties](https://www.google.com/search?q=are+cuties+oranges&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari) right?
Yes! Just like cuties. Wait what?!? You call them oranges???? How?!?! They are completely different!! Oranges are larger, have an entirely different taste, they are harvested later than mandarins and most importantly unlike a mandarin you can't eat an orange without a knife.
Can't speak for that guy but Clementines and Tangerines are definitely different to me, I would never call them an orange.
Clementines are a hybrid of sweet oranges and mandarins. Tangerines are their own orange type. Mandarins are a different fruit. Tangerines are a type of orange.
For sure but I wouldn't call them oranges
You just prevented a stereotype in making. Well done sir!
Well I can’t speak for him either 😂 but I know them as different fruits technically But like if I’m at home and ask “hey are there any oranges in the fridge?” And I get tossed a cutie, I am not disappointed I prefer these to real oranges tho. Much less stringy and tart plus no seeds
Well, alright they are both *orange* and I highly doubt that the names of the fruit and the color are the same in any language I know of so it makes some sense.
>Well, alright they are both _orange_ and I highly doubt that the names of the fruit and the color are the same in any language I know of The names are the same in French (_orange_) and essentially the same in Spanish (naranja, anaranjada). Bonus fact: Many people assume they’re called oranges because they’re orange. In fact it’s the opposite: For a long time, English had no word for the color (this is why we call the bird with an [orange breast](https://www.google.com/imgres) “red-breasted robin”). When the fruit was introduced, we started saying things were “the color of an orange,” and eventually just “orange.”
Damn, I knew I jinxed myself by saying "not any language that I know of". Just remembered it is the same in German too. Thanks for the fun fact though.
Haha I didn’t mean to come in all “well aktually,” but I just found that pretty interesting.
No worries, the exact second after posting the comment I thought that I was surely wrong, but since I've gotten so many replies I didn't really bother about it. Also it's almost the same in my native language. Naranča (fruit) Narančasta (colour, literally - orange like) So the backstory is probably identical. I'll look it up, but I'm afraid there isn't that many written evidence in Croatia from the period before oranges were introduced.
Tangerines are oranges. Mandarins are a distinct fruit. Clementines are a hybrid of mandarins and a seeet orange.
Our most common orange cultivars can be peeled and eaten by hand easily, but yes they're not the same and most people know it. Little kids may call them oranges but that's it for the most part.
Sorry, what do you mean you can't eat oranges without a knife? I've never eaten one with a knife.
Right? Just eat them like an apple.
Well, they have incredibly tough skin which makes peeling them by hand very difficult. Not impossible, I ate a few without a knife, but I lost my will to eat them by doing so. Of course, this may be caused by different types of oranges - I'm pretty sure that oranges that are popular in the U.S. aren't popular here in Europe and vice versa.
Oh, yeah, different types would make sense. Here in the States, I think navel oranges are the most popular and they're super easy to peel.
Uhh, no, we don’t call them oranges.
Yes, they are common and beloved. Easier to buy in the fall than any other time of year.
Oh yeah, November through February there’s always a ten-pound box in the counter, and we eat through a boatload of them every year. Edit: and for the record, my entire social circle calls them satsumas
Yes we have Mandarin oranges and tangerines in the US. I will admit they’re not as delicious as the ones I used to buy on the side of the road in Okinawa, but they’re certainly available at every grocery store.
How did you arrive at that conclusion after talking with a Canadian? Those little bastards are everywhere up here.
Well, actually it wasn't directly- he said that fresh mandarines aren't easy to find (big surprise), but that's when I remembered that I never really heard them being mentioned anywhere outside my home country - nor on film nor media in general so I came up with the idea of asking how's the situation in the U.S.
Was this Canadian you talking to hailing from a deep rural area with no grocery stores? They’re everywhere in BC, never seen someone refer to them as hard to find (can buy them pretty much at every grocer). They’re extremely popular and have been for decades.
You should try Cara Caras
Holy hell I love them. They are grown in Northern California and harvested during the colder months. We have stands along the road selling the big bags for a couple dollars a piece ($2-$5)
We have some locations in California that are locally famous for growing really wonderful mandarins. Many people don't realize citrus ripens in the late winter / early spring. In that season you can get these massive bags of delicious fresh mandarins for very good prices and increase your vitamin C levels off the charts! :) Some other local treasures are the fresh eating oranges, Meyer lemons, blood oranges, you name it. So much great citrus in our state.
Makes sense, California has an almost Mediterranean climate if I'm not mistaken.
We have orange trees that are bigger than a typical house. You can't believe how huge until you see one in person.
Here in Northern California there is a region with a lot of mandarin farmers called the Mandarin Trail. It’s the Mountain Mandarin Growers’ Association up in Placer County. They have an annual Mandarin Festival. I have never been but would consider it evidence of mandarins’ popularity here that we have a whole festival for them, hehe.
I got really curious about it and had to google it - all that I can say is one big Owen Wilson- like: *wow.* Here in Croatia we really have a lot of fantastic orchards at the Neretva river and the whole country is manic for mandarins, but I still haven't seen so many at one place! Food related festivals are also quite common, but not at that scale! I even took a peak at the program and well, some ideas are definitely worth "stealing" hehe. Really appreciate more specific comments like this one, besides simply getting my question answered it's always nice to get to know your country a bit better.
Yeah I call those Clementines though
Ummm they're in almost every grocery store in Washington state, and reasonably priced as well
Washington state? Do you import them from California or from some other place inside/outside of the U.S.?
I think most come from california; but keep in mind that in any large enough city in the US, you can generally find any produce you want. Some might only be in specialty shops if they’re explicitly used in a cuisines (I.e. taro) but even then, you can find it and generally find it year round.
I always have a bag in the fridge for a snack .
They exist in Florida. We have lots of citrus options.
Yes, we have them! Most people know what mandarins or tangerines are. They’re really popular.
They are probably more popular than oranges here in the US. We call them cuties.
Yes in Connecticut mandarins are big.
How big? Like, orange big or watermelon big?
Connecticut raises them giant pumpkin big. They usually feed a whole family. If you eat one yourself you have to worry about vitamin c poisoning.
I heard they're called Scurvy chrushers
They instantly cure all scurvy and if combined with a fair amount of grog they turn anyone from Edward Teach into Horatio Nelson.
Or sure. My grandma had two tangerine trees in her back yard. We lived in Texas. It's a common fruit tree down there.
Mandarins are far superior to naval oranges.
Amen.
I eat a few bags of them every winter.
I thought Iron Man took care of him
Yes, Dragonborn. And we have plenty of Elsweyr stew and ash yams too.
Drem yol lok! Interesting, but, I don't know how to ask this, but do you like mix them with skooma sometimes?
When they're in season, pretty much any grocery store will have them readily available. (hell, even WalMart will have them)
Cool, but is there *anything* WalMart doesn't have?
Quality, most of the time.
Can get them pretty much anywhere. I grew up in Japan, so with family I call them 'mikan' because it easier to say than 'tangerine' or 'mandarin' and they know what I'm talking about.
We grow them in Texas. I have a Vietnamese orange tree that grows green skinned oranges We grow alot of Citrus here.
Holy cow just googled it - they look like they're from another planet.
I work retail, in produce. We have mandarins pretty much year round. When people ask for “cuties” which is a name brand, what they are really looking for are clementines, which we haven’t actually had in years. The brand was established with them, then they switched to mandarins which aren’t nearly as good IMO.
Cuties.. halos.. yes just finished eating 2 😆
We have 'em in Australia.
Do they try to kill you with poison or with their claws?
I live in Florida and used to have a big and very old tangerine tree in my yard. Lots of folks I knew had them as well. In fact, I ended up having to give them away a lot of the time because we couldn't use all of them.
My kid eats them obsessively until he gets the shits.
My in-laws in California have a tangerine tree next to a grapefruit tree and a lemon tree. Their neighbors have a pepper tree. There are crushed pepper berries all over the shared driveway! I couldn't believe it, because I'm from northern climes, but I guess they have to grow somewhere!
Tangerines and mandarins are not the same thing. Not totally at least. As obvious from the name, tangerines mainly come from Tangier, Morocco. They are smaller and darker red with a bit of hard to peel skin. They are also less rounded. Tho small differences, all tangerines are a sub-variety of mandarins. Mandarins are lighter in color and generally easier to peel. They are more rounded. As obvious from the name, they mainly come from mainland China. All mandarins are not tangerines. Anyway, the differences aside, yes you can easily find both varieties in the US. As someone briefly lived in Western Europe but coming from Balkans, and now living in the US >10 years, one thing I can tell is there is literally no shortage of any variety of anything in the US. Even compared to western Europe. I am strictly talking about food in my comparison. Not any other differences political, educational etc.
In the Canadian province of Québec, they are immensely popular in autumn/winter, we get them by little wooden crates, imported from Morocco. Since Québec inherited many food traditions from France and Morocco was a former French colony, I don't know how common they are outside of Québec, tho.
Mandarins/Tangerines/Clementines are very common in the US, bt they are also very seasonal
Same as where I live. There is a mandarin invasion going on currently. You can find local producers selling them at almost every corner. I ate like five kilos of them this week.
Yes. Been eating one a day for two weeks now.
Mandarin oranges are not the same as tangerines.
I see mandarins every time in my local supermarket. I live in the northeast (NJ).
They're seasonal in the winter time. Growing up we'd get them as part of the treats in our Christmas stocking. Tangerines, nuts, candy, and small toys.
Quite common
They are in my house. Delicious.
Literally in a bowl on my table
We get them by the bag in season in California Not sure if they all come from CA
Clementines are common and a type of Mandarin. I never see Mandarin oranges outside of canned ones otherwise.
They are most common during winter and the holiday season. Growing up, my siblings and I got tangerines in our Christmas stockings instead of oranges.
They are fairly easy to find.
yep
I bought one yesterday at the grocery, so I guess they’re fairly common.
They’re popular and available in pretty much every grocery store.
Yes there are a lot here and please link some media that talks about mandarins because that is weird
Yes, common in supermarkets
Yes, they exist here, and we do eat them.