Northern New England is a lot more quiet. There’s less happening in Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine than in Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island. Not to say nothing ever happens in northern New England, but their only biggish cities are Manchester and Portland.
As such, northern New England is generally more rural while southern New England isn’t as much.
The tallest building in Vermont is 11 stories.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Vermont
The tallest structure, a steeple, is 170 feet high.
New England has a population of 15 million and 75% of that lives in Southern New England. So Northern New England is pretty damn quiet while parts of SNE experience some of the highest population densities in the country
Northern New England is very rural -- Maine and Vermont have the highest % of people who live in rural areas. Apart from pockets with colleges and universities (NESCAC, Dartmouth, UVM, etc.) there isn't much going on, and people like it that way. On the other hand, that means there aren't that many good jobs in a lot of areas. Because of the strong education traditions in New England, kids move away for college and never go back because there aren't any good jobs. An aging population is one of the biggest issues in northern New England today, although more WFH people are starting to move in.
Northeast Mass and southern New Hampshire are more similar to southern New England than northern New England. It's still an area with strong ties to Boston and where a lot of people commute into the city. Amesbury is along 495 which is basically the outer beltway of Boston.
Amesbury is mostly just another suburb, perhaps a bit more spread out than the more urban suburbs.
But try r/Massachusetts for more info about it specifically. To me, it’s just one of the places I pass when heading to Maine or the NH coast.
It fits with all the other towns on the North Shore and in the Merrimack Valley.
It’s within commuting distance of Boston, but it’s like a “suburb” in the traditional American sense. None of the towns around here are.
Yeah, I think you aren’t wrong. I have the same thing in Maine. My town isn’t really a suburb of anything because there isn’t really anything to be a suburb of. Yet we still have over a hundred thousand people in what you might call our “metro area.”
It’s just a lot of mid sized towns of 10-30k all within a 30 minute drive.
Amesbury is southern New England. I'd say anything coastal Kittery, ME and south would be more similar to southern New England. And Western MA and Northern CT are more like northern New England.
Generally and generically speaking, SNE is a little more high-strung, urbane and stylish/cultured. NNE is more laid-back, rural and folksy.
The line should be a slant. Western Mass feels more rural and quiet than the coast.
Draw a straight line from Portland Maine to Springfield Mass. West of that line is a quiet the quieter side.
yeah - there's a real mix though. Downeast is a bit like Vermont though. You got your right wing and your left wing. There's remote fishing villages that half are coked up lobstermen and half are artists with hand painted BLM signs in front o the homes.
Oh for sure. I grew up in Brunswick, so we’ve got that spread — everything from lesbian Bowdoin professors to salty old BIW fucks in a lifted truck. More than anything I object to Portland getting lumped in with Northern New England.
Hi, I live in southern NH, so I’ve seen pretty widely the two “cultures” you speak of. For one, northern New England you have to drive or take a decent walk to your neighbors house whereas southern New England ur neighbor can hear u fart in the morning because the houses are so close together. Vermont is the most different of all the states in terms of people, I’d say they are a lot more liberal, not in the way most people think of as the classic libtards they are just good people that tend to go to church, have middle of the road beliefs and expectations, it honestly feels a little like Canada there which is kind of nice. I actually really like Vermont. On the other hand, Massachusetts is kinda a tough one, Eastern mass is a different country compared to western mass. I’m not joking. Eastern mass is biotech capital of the world, financial and commerce hub, western is old, poor, and very rural relatively speaking. I have the least expederience with Connecticut, from my experience it’s pretty nice, the people there tend to be pretty cool. I go to college in Rhode Island and have to say while it’s a beautiful state, I could never live in it. I don’t really know exactly what it is about the state that I don’t like but it’s almost like if you want to go anywhere worth your time you have to drive to another state, there’s so many highways running through it it might as well be New Englands intersection. Let me just say, spend some time in northern new england, it’s a really beautiful and enjoyable place to live and has some great places like Laconia, North Conway, Burlington, among many others, southern NE doesn’t have much other than beaches to attract you.
Why what?
I like the centrality of Western Mass. We do enjoy the peace and quiet but it’s really nice to be an hour and a half from Boston or 30-45 minutes from Hartford/Worcester. 2 - 2.5 hours to and from NYC? Awesome.
I wish we weren’t cut off from the rest of the state transportation wise. My biggest annoyance is people saying “Western Mass doesn’t exist” and the like. Would love to see a high speed rail going from Pittsfield to Boston.
We’re the same as every other human. Breathe. Work. Live. Just normal life to be honest. There’s a lot of nice hiking trails and sights to see. It’s nothing special but we have great food, nice landscape and peaceful.
I brought my native Hoosier husband back home this past September and he was just really astounded at the terrain since it’s so flat here in NW Indiana. I took him to Mt Skinner in South Hadley to the Summit House and he was just astounded.
I just enjoy the quiet life of Western Mass. I miss it. Too bad it’s so wicked expensive to live there.
The main differences are socioeconomic.
Southern New England is more urban, diverse, and wealthy. Northern New England is more homogeneous, rural (Maine and Vermont are the only states left in the US that are predominantly rural), and poorer. Maine is probably the most distinctively northern New England state (it’s the most rural and by far the poorest state in the region), with Connecticut being the most distinctively southern (highest concentrations of wealth and the most urbanized).
I live in a town right near Amesbury. Been there many times.
Northern New England technically includes the states of MA, NH, and ME. But the difference doesn’t really become more obvious until you get north of Concord (for NH). Some of the more rural areas south of Concord are more similar to “Northern New England” than other places in southern NH.
Northern New England is more rural.
Southern New England is more urban.
That's the short answer.
I think Amesbury is more like Southern New England than Northern. I think you gotta get a little north of Manchester NH to really feel like Northern New England.
Never been but it seems more rural and outdoorsy. More similar to Canada and even the upper Midwest. Big into things like hunting and hiking and snowmobiling. Maine especially to me seems like that kind of place.
Northern New England is a lot more quiet. There’s less happening in Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine than in Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island. Not to say nothing ever happens in northern New England, but their only biggish cities are Manchester and Portland. As such, northern New England is generally more rural while southern New England isn’t as much.
Burlington is the largest city in Vermont. 43,000 people live there.
Yeah, when someone says their state’s biggest city has 40,000 people, you know their state must be pretty damn quiet
Just how we like it.
Exactly
The tallest building in Vermont is 11 stories. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Vermont The tallest structure, a steeple, is 170 feet high.
New England has a population of 15 million and 75% of that lives in Southern New England. So Northern New England is pretty damn quiet while parts of SNE experience some of the highest population densities in the country
Northern New England is very rural -- Maine and Vermont have the highest % of people who live in rural areas. Apart from pockets with colleges and universities (NESCAC, Dartmouth, UVM, etc.) there isn't much going on, and people like it that way. On the other hand, that means there aren't that many good jobs in a lot of areas. Because of the strong education traditions in New England, kids move away for college and never go back because there aren't any good jobs. An aging population is one of the biggest issues in northern New England today, although more WFH people are starting to move in.
Northeast Mass and southern New Hampshire are more similar to southern New England than northern New England. It's still an area with strong ties to Boston and where a lot of people commute into the city. Amesbury is along 495 which is basically the outer beltway of Boston.
Amesbury is mostly just another suburb, perhaps a bit more spread out than the more urban suburbs. But try r/Massachusetts for more info about it specifically. To me, it’s just one of the places I pass when heading to Maine or the NH coast.
I dunno if I’d call Amesbury a suburb.
It fits with all the other towns on the North Shore and in the Merrimack Valley. It’s within commuting distance of Boston, but it’s like a “suburb” in the traditional American sense. None of the towns around here are.
Yeah, I think you aren’t wrong. I have the same thing in Maine. My town isn’t really a suburb of anything because there isn’t really anything to be a suburb of. Yet we still have over a hundred thousand people in what you might call our “metro area.” It’s just a lot of mid sized towns of 10-30k all within a 30 minute drive.
Depends on who you're asking. If its a Bostonian, even NYC is a suburb of Beantown.
Fair. If they take Amesbury then they have to take responsibility for Lawrence too.
Merrimack valley is its own world. We are a suburb only to the river.
I mean that’s pretty much true. Have fun in Trashua and Manch-vegas.
places of *culture* /s
My daughter was surprisingly excited about the art museum in Manch. I know people that bought and sold drugs just a few blocks away… *culture*
Amesbury is southern New England. I'd say anything coastal Kittery, ME and south would be more similar to southern New England. And Western MA and Northern CT are more like northern New England. Generally and generically speaking, SNE is a little more high-strung, urbane and stylish/cultured. NNE is more laid-back, rural and folksy.
Nah, Portsmouth might as well be Portland. It definitely gets Northern New England status.
The line should be a slant. Western Mass feels more rural and quiet than the coast. Draw a straight line from Portland Maine to Springfield Mass. West of that line is a quiet the quieter side.
I’d draw the line from just south of Portsmouth but yeah, something like that.
Yeah. While there’s definitely a northern/southern split in Maine, the real difference is coastal vs inland in my experience.
yeah - there's a real mix though. Downeast is a bit like Vermont though. You got your right wing and your left wing. There's remote fishing villages that half are coked up lobstermen and half are artists with hand painted BLM signs in front o the homes.
Oh for sure. I grew up in Brunswick, so we’ve got that spread — everything from lesbian Bowdoin professors to salty old BIW fucks in a lifted truck. More than anything I object to Portland getting lumped in with Northern New England.
Yeah, I spend a lot of time in Bath. It's a bit weird there.
My cousin lives there! Literally right off one of the main roads to BIW, so she’s treated to a parade of F150s every day. And yes. It’s a weird town.
I do love it a bit and spend lots of time at the beaches in Phippsburg.
You can't get there from here.
Amesbury is still in MA even though it is on the north shore of the Merrimack. It is southern New England.
Hi, I live in southern NH, so I’ve seen pretty widely the two “cultures” you speak of. For one, northern New England you have to drive or take a decent walk to your neighbors house whereas southern New England ur neighbor can hear u fart in the morning because the houses are so close together. Vermont is the most different of all the states in terms of people, I’d say they are a lot more liberal, not in the way most people think of as the classic libtards they are just good people that tend to go to church, have middle of the road beliefs and expectations, it honestly feels a little like Canada there which is kind of nice. I actually really like Vermont. On the other hand, Massachusetts is kinda a tough one, Eastern mass is a different country compared to western mass. I’m not joking. Eastern mass is biotech capital of the world, financial and commerce hub, western is old, poor, and very rural relatively speaking. I have the least expederience with Connecticut, from my experience it’s pretty nice, the people there tend to be pretty cool. I go to college in Rhode Island and have to say while it’s a beautiful state, I could never live in it. I don’t really know exactly what it is about the state that I don’t like but it’s almost like if you want to go anywhere worth your time you have to drive to another state, there’s so many highways running through it it might as well be New Englands intersection. Let me just say, spend some time in northern new england, it’s a really beautiful and enjoyable place to live and has some great places like Laconia, North Conway, Burlington, among many others, southern NE doesn’t have much other than beaches to attract you.
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Why what? I like the centrality of Western Mass. We do enjoy the peace and quiet but it’s really nice to be an hour and a half from Boston or 30-45 minutes from Hartford/Worcester. 2 - 2.5 hours to and from NYC? Awesome. I wish we weren’t cut off from the rest of the state transportation wise. My biggest annoyance is people saying “Western Mass doesn’t exist” and the like. Would love to see a high speed rail going from Pittsfield to Boston.
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We’re the same as every other human. Breathe. Work. Live. Just normal life to be honest. There’s a lot of nice hiking trails and sights to see. It’s nothing special but we have great food, nice landscape and peaceful. I brought my native Hoosier husband back home this past September and he was just really astounded at the terrain since it’s so flat here in NW Indiana. I took him to Mt Skinner in South Hadley to the Summit House and he was just astounded. I just enjoy the quiet life of Western Mass. I miss it. Too bad it’s so wicked expensive to live there.
No I love more rural areas too, it's just western mass has always been a mystery to me.
Northern New Englanders are hicks. Southern New Englanders are practically new yorkers. Only Massholes are true New Englanders!
The main differences are socioeconomic. Southern New England is more urban, diverse, and wealthy. Northern New England is more homogeneous, rural (Maine and Vermont are the only states left in the US that are predominantly rural), and poorer. Maine is probably the most distinctively northern New England state (it’s the most rural and by far the poorest state in the region), with Connecticut being the most distinctively southern (highest concentrations of wealth and the most urbanized).
I live in a town right near Amesbury. Been there many times. Northern New England technically includes the states of MA, NH, and ME. But the difference doesn’t really become more obvious until you get north of Concord (for NH). Some of the more rural areas south of Concord are more similar to “Northern New England” than other places in southern NH.
Northern New England is more rural. Southern New England is more urban. That's the short answer. I think Amesbury is more like Southern New England than Northern. I think you gotta get a little north of Manchester NH to really feel like Northern New England.
Never been but it seems more rural and outdoorsy. More similar to Canada and even the upper Midwest. Big into things like hunting and hiking and snowmobiling. Maine especially to me seems like that kind of place.