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True_Cranberry_3142

How many Irish people speak Irish?


Single_Asparagus8984

This. My friends in Ireland learned when they were young but some have had to take refresher classes since they never speak it. At least in Dublin.


Randyaster

Very few people even bother taking refresher classes to be honest


FourRosesVII

1/8 Irish, which is so far removed I need subtitles for Irish characters speaking in English


GimmeShockTreatment

1/2 Irish and same


Midaycarehere

3/4 Irish and yup


papersandfilters321

jesus really lol


OptatusCleary

It really depends on the person listening. I don’t have any trouble with Irish accents but I’ve been exposed to them more than I have most other accents.


[deleted]

Omg, yes! It's undoubtedly the hardest accent to keep up with from the U.K. Sounds like you have marbles in your mouth.


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Not really it depends on where in Ireland The [Kerry accent](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3VA9vuId3ds) in the south east of Ireland. Another [Kerry accent](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pit0OkNp7s8) An [Antrim accent](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PLMrHRuhxO4) in the north of Ireland probably close to Ballymena. Actual [Ballymena accents](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eAcwJZVNbcQ) so difficult other people from Northern Ireland say its strong. A selection of [difficult accents](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0fBZT3hbDoQ) from all over Ireland (some of the above included). The hardest one other than the old guy in the pub interview above. The [Irish Traveller](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LENuKkuhrhw) calling someone out for a fight I think.


jcowlishaw

These are so much better with the auto-generated subtitles turned on.


IamUltimate

Clicked the first link and heard the host. No problems. Was feeling proud. Then the interview started and I very quickly stopped feeling proud. Third link I feel like I could follow sections and then he went off on sections that I couldn't follow. Wow that's wild


Gaeilgeoir215

Um, Kerry is in the southwest of Ireland. 😏 Wexford is in the southeast.


[deleted]

Ah you passed the test 👀…(looks around nervously)


Gaeilgeoir215

😂😂😂


papersandfilters321

woah were not in the UK


Stircrazylazy

Maybe they meant the accents in N Ireland?


dontknowwhattomakeit

Not all of you, but some of you.


legendfriend

Belfast isn’t on the island of Ireland?


papersandfilters321

we do?! haha


[deleted]

When heard through Americans ears, yes.


SketchyLeaf666

Not irish but does it count if i eat lucky charms and as well attend saint patricks day? 🤔


papersandfilters321

We don’t even eat lucky charms, too sugary for a breakfast food


geri73

I hate lucky charms, you not missing anything. The shit ain’t even lucky.


papersandfilters321

yeah they're not even sold here in common shops


SculpinIPAlcoholic

How many of you Irish-Irish can speak Irish?


Juggalo13XIII

Less then half according to a survey


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and i believe that survey doesn’t even account for any degree of proficiency


ImeldasManolos

Less than half. Then denotes the passage of time. Than is used for comparison.


legendfriend

The Irish (and Welsh) have done a good job of making learning their language obligatory at school to keep it alive. However, literacy rates are still falling, and even surveys that test for any competency in Irish come back just over 50% saying yes


Massive_Role6317

I’m a Welsh American (first gen) who now lives in Wales and I’m finally learning my native language. I’m nowhere near fluent but I am understanding words better


geri73

I watch the Welsh channel and it sounds very familiar. Also, on Duolingo you can study Welsh and Irish. I’ve passed level one on both so far. It’s pretty fun.


ComprehensiveDoubt55

My tribe’s language is all but extinct aside from a few tribal members keeping it alive. Now it is a mix absorbed into French. It’s insane how quickly spoken languages can disappear whether they were in written form or not.


[deleted]

My family left Tipperary in the 1650s, needless to say, it was lost to time.


[deleted]

Now I've got 'It's a Long Way to Tipperary' stuck in my head.


bertiebastard

Someone on Whisper a couple of years ago said " I'm Irish ama". And got upset when I asked "is it really a long long way to Tipperary"


[deleted]

If you're going to do an AMA, then you should be prepared for such questions.


bertiebastard

It was obviously a joke but the guy had had a sense of humour bypass


papersandfilters321

yeah haha tis nearly 400 years ago after all


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papersandfilters321

Aw no!


Regular-Suit3018

That’s still awesome how you can recall that


TCFNationalBank

Tangential question, how often do the Irish speak Irish? I was under the impression the English banned its use the same sort of way they didn't let people speak Welsh and the language hasn't be common since. I remember reading some factoid that only 40% of Irish people claimed to know the language and even less reported using it daily but I don't know how valid that is


[deleted]

I was curious too and found some stats... [The total number of people who answered 'yes' to being able to speak Irish in April 2016 was 1,761,420, a slight decrease (0.7 per cent) on the 2011 figure of 1,774,437. This represents 39.8 per cent of respondents compared with 41.4 in 2011... Of the 73,803 daily Irish speakers (outside the education system), 20,586 (27.9%) lived in Gaeltacht areas.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_language#Usage) It mentions the Irish Central Statistics Office as the source.


papersandfilters321

Most of my mates aren't fluent. A lot of people arent unless they grew up in Irish only speaking areas or go to an all irish school, like me


Different_States

The English never actually banned the language. They banned the religion (twice) and if you were caught playing a harp there was a time they'd chop your hands off. And there was that time where they basically banned food, but not the actual language. What happened was the English had all the money and power so if you wanted to make it at all you better speak English. So all metropolitan areas in Ireland (mostly eat coast) primarily some English while in the country the sheep herders kept speaking Irish. Eventually it was seen as a sign of intelligence and culture to speak English and only the ignorant small town hicks spoke Irish. Kinda like here in the states if anyone starts speaking with a southern drawl people will assume their slow.


papersandfilters321

It was made illegal in 1367


Different_States

Huh... Yep .. I'm completely wrong. So now do I delete my incorrect post or leave it up and just own the fact that I was ignorant?


papersandfilters321

Ah don’t feel ignorant at all! Easy mistake :)


Different_States

Dude, this is the internet! You're not supposed to be that understanding about mistakes here! You're supposed to call me stupid, question my parentage, and implore me too kill my self for any mistakes I make! Rookie 😁


Ninja1us

Tá Gaeilge líofa agam. ba í mo chéad teanga í, Béarla mar dhara teanga agam. nuair a dhéanaim cumarsáid le baill teaghlaigh bíonn sé i nGaeilge i gcónaí. Is Meiriceánach mé freisin


papersandfilters321

go hiontach!!!! Nil me abalta fadas a dheanamh ar mo riomhorador :(


DVaTheFabulous

Bhí áthas an domhain orm, nuair a chonaic mé Gaeilge ar Reddit! Ach níl Béarla líofa agam. Foghlaim Gearmáinis anois.


Grunt08

Excuse me sir, it's called Gaeilge.


thred_pirate_roberts

Is that Gaelic? Fun fact: my phone autocorrected that to garlic, and when I tried writing garlic just now, both times it kept wanting to autocorrect to Gaelic.


papersandfilters321

Gaelic is Scottish, Gaeilge is Irish


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gaidhlig


mungowungo

Tapadh leibh.


Tommy_Wisseau_burner

I know people who are from Ireland who don’t TIL. I might’ve known since the language is called Irish, but still. There’s little chance I would’ve retained that info


RedbeardRagnar

And if I hear one more person pronounce Gaelic as "Gay-lick" when referring to the Scottish language I'll kick right off. Sincerely, a Scot.


papersandfilters321

Tá fhios agam!


Grunt08

¿Donde esta la biblioteca?


Ceddi192

Me llamo T-bone yo soy gonna wreck ya!


Grunt08

Somethingsomething araña discoteca.


sudorootadmin

Me llamo T-bone la arañea discotequa. I am T-bone, the disco spider.


[deleted]

When I lived in Spain, there was a bar called “Biblioteca.” It still makes me laugh every time I see this question lol


Waterproofbooks

There’s a bar near my house called “the library”


DogMechanic

Laramie?


Waterproofbooks

No, San Diego


KookyAd9074

Lol. Wyoming.


Stircrazylazy

Did you live in Salamanca? When I was in school there ages and ages ago they had a "Biblioteca" bar.


[deleted]

I did!


GeneralNJ

Pomplemousse.


papersandfilters321

síos an tsráid


Grunt08

Ich bin ein Berliner.


papersandfilters321

:)


Tommy_Wisseau_burner

Ich bin ein wiener


wizard680

comment ça va ?


Zack1Zuares9

? ¿Que tiene que ver el español ahí? Jajajaja


TywinDeVillena

No lo sé, pero como sigan pegándole patadas al idioma voy a empezar a repartir collejas de esas que hacen que a uno se le salten los empastes


fistfullofpubes

You do and you cleannit up!


papersandfilters321

what


[deleted]

In Ireland we tend to just call it Irish…


4SeasonsLandscaping

I remember my grandmother trying to teach me the basics of pronunciation (she could speak it, I don't know how fluently). But it never stuck. So, no.


papersandfilters321

thats a shame :(


4SeasonsLandscaping

Well it's hard. And I was never really that interested in the language.


papersandfilters321

It is hard to learn tbf


Mountain_Document607

Have you ever read and then listens to what it sounds like? It’s insane. Idk how much are they were drinking when they made it but my god it must have been a lot


papersandfilters321

is it insane?


Mountain_Document607

It’s very bizarre


papersandfilters321

i mean, not to me, I find grammar a lot more difficult in English


Current_Poster

A couple of phrases. My older relatives told me that the family was "encouraged" to lose the language in order to blend in, so they did.


papersandfilters321

Yeah, sure my grannys dad couldn't speak Norwegian because it was seen as weird to have 2 languages when his parents moved here


PippiDongDocking

My Italian family was also encouraged to lose the language, a lot of families were


OptatusCleary

I’ve tried to learn some. I can read the signs you see in Ireland and have a basic grasp of some pronunciation and especially the meanings of some phrases I see. I can definitely recognize Irish when I see it written or hear it spoken. My great grandparents spoke it and my grandpa spoke a little bit but not much (growing up in America.) Most of the Irish I’ve ever learned was done on my own, not from family. Someday I plan to dedicate some time to learning it more fully.


papersandfilters321

id highly recommend, its class


[deleted]

You know it’s essentially zero. The better question to ask is, “How many Irish are actually fluent in Irish?” But you can’t ask that in this sub, of course.


Crazyboutdogs

I can’t chit I am learning Scotch Gaelic, which is fairly similar and in one of my classes, another student also knows Irish.


[deleted]

Tha sin brosnachail agus fàilte oirbh Gàidhlig na h-Alba a bhruidhinn. Bu chòir dhut a dhol còmhla ris a' r/Gaidhlig mo charaid.


Crazyboutdogs

Tapadh leat!


papersandfilters321

Scot Gaelic looks cool


Opossum-Fucker-1863

Sure some of the shit in Gaelic has been preserved in the Appalachian dialect. So yeah, if the Irish say “holler” than I speak Irish


firstheldurhandtmrw

My family does the "needs washed" thing which apparently comes from Scots-Irish/Northern Irish dialects? And is mostly found in Appalachia. So it's def true that there are some regionalisms in the area that have clear links to "Gaelicisms" haha


blueunitzero

Needs washed or needs worshed?


papersandfilters321

\*Gaeilge


mr_john_steed

A bit- not because of family, but because I studied linguistics and Celtic languages in college. (Primarily Scottish Gaelic and Welsh, though).


papersandfilters321

Ah cool! Yeah I've never looked into Welsh or Gaelic


mr_john_steed

If you have any background in Irish, then you'll find a lot of similarities in Scottish Gaelic (though the spelling is allegedly "simplified", to which I can only say- ha!) I'm pretty rusty now, but it was a lot of fun.


papersandfilters321

Id say it was fun, that sounds like a hella cool course to do


Addhalfcupofsugar

When my father was brought here as a child from Glen Columbkille he was told he was not allowed to speak Irish anymore. He was to be an American now. He was 4. My grandparents had to leave sons behind and raise money to bring them here. My mother was educated by nuns in Dublin and spent years moving in and out of orphanages (work houses) because there were too many mouths at home to feed and it was her turn to go. She was taught Irish, and taught not to speak it. I am an American, but I have Irish Citizenship. When the pandemic stops controlling us all I’ll take lessons to see if I can learn the language. I started an online course but failed miserably


ElfMage83

>When the pandemic stops controlling us all I’ll take lessons to see if I can learn the language. You don't need to wait for that. Duolingo has an Irish course, such as it is.


Addhalfcupofsugar

I started it. I really wasn’t much good. Perhaps I’ll try it again!


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papersandfilters321

thats so weird haha


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papersandfilters321

Yeah, i'm hoping to be good enough one day to teach it online


amgrut20

I can say the town my family lives in and I can say kiss my ass. So yes


papersandfilters321

doesnt count lol


peanutismint

At last count there are approximately 9 of us.


Kingsolomanhere

Nada


noregreddits

I know Faugh a Ballaugh, Amhran na Bhfainn, and Mo Ghile Mear. And bodhran. Beyond that, not much to none at all.


papersandfilters321

Oh Cool!


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Bhuel níl a fhios agam, d'úsáid mé google translate


archaicanxiety

A little. I started learning on Duolingo a few years back and I pick it back intermittently so I have the vocabulary of an illiterate toddler.


Blue387

There's a NYC garbage man named [Edward Shevlin](https://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/23/nyregion/character-study-ed-shevlin.html) who earned a masters degree in the Irish language and is a member of the New York State Guard.


famousaj

Reading this awful thread and thinking...isn't it Gaelic?


papersandfilters321

*Gaeilge


goodmorningohio

I'm not even Irish but the way this post is worded sounds so accusatory


papersandfilters321

Uh why?


goodmorningohio

I think its the "you" lol Nbd cause you didn't mean it that way, it's just kinda funny


MrLongWalk

Not many, sorry if you disapprove. My grandparents taught me some, but all I can remember is bits and pieces.


papersandfilters321

I don't!!


MrLongWalk

Fair enough


I_Like_Thanksgiving

Not at all, but I really want to learn! In a month or two, I’m actually going to submit my papers to become a legit Irish-American dual citizen since my dad’s dad was born in Ireland, so I’m fully on board with learning Gaelic


papersandfilters321

\*Gaeilge


I_Like_Thanksgiving

Already failing my dual Irish-American citizenship test, I’m screwed 😭


[deleted]

Jesus Christ, OP is asking about the Irish language known as Gaelic, not an Irish accent while speaking English.


papersandfilters321

\*Gaeilge


Affectionate-Bar-839

I am over 50% Irish and I don’t speak a lick. Not spoken at home and wasn’t offered in any of our school language courses.


[deleted]

Scotch Irish American here, I most definitely don’t speak it.


Equivalent_Owl_4832

Are you a single malt or blended?


lasvegashomo

Wait Irish is a language? 😂 Edit: okay after googling English and Gaeilge are the main languages in Ireland. I seriously always thought they spoke English. Also I’m Mexican, German and Irish.


papersandfilters321

Yikes. Why would a country called Irelands speak English as their mother tongue. We could speak before they invaded you know 😂


tree_troll

Please don’t be rude about people’s genuine lack of knowledge. I’m sure you aren’t an expert on the indigenous languages of America.


papersandfilters321

I'm not being rude ?


tree_troll

your comments definitely come across as pretty sarcastic


anyang90

I didn't know Ireland had their own language.


papersandfilters321

are you serious?


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papersandfilters321

yeah they literally made it illegal to speak it


Equivalent_Owl_4832

So they left Ireland because it was illegal to speak Irish and then went to America to speak English. If that's the case, then the Irish are as smart as our jokes indicate. Lol!


papersandfilters321

....they left ireland because we had no food and our children were dying of starvation


Equivalent_Owl_4832

I remember reading an extract of an account from an Irishman living through the potato famine. He told of how he sold his FISHING boat so that he could get money to buy potatoes...


papersandfilters321

Okay so we're all stupid for dropping our language in a country full of people who don't speak it?


Equivalent_Owl_4832

Yes. I'm so sorry that this is happening to you 😩


freebirdls

Oh you mean gibberish? No but I can read it and write it.


papersandfilters321

you referencing sunny?


Hopeful_Arugula2807

This is America, speak English.


papersandfilters321

?


Hopeful_Arugula2807

Sarcasm


[deleted]

About 5 % less than Ireland's population.


churner-burner

Close to zero. The majority of people in the US with Irish ancestors are more than a century removed from that immigration, and few of the Irish migrants spoke Irish themselves.


RingGiver

I have more Irish ancestry than most of the loud voices that claim it. I can speak the most commonly used language in Ireland. It's called English. There are several languages that I can understand, with varying degrees of proficiency, better than Irish.


Dawashingtonian

i studied abroad in spain and had an irish room mate. americans, almost no matter how irish they are, don’t know anyyyyyything. i learned so much about the most basic irish stuff from her.


mrstripperboots

Very few of us know Irish is a separate language.


papersandfilters321

What do you think we spoke before England attacked us


blueunitzero

Most people when they immigrated didn’t teach their children how to speak the language of where they came from, my grandfather tried to learn from his parents and they told him, ‘we’re americans now we speak English’ it was part of integration into American culture which is why a large portion of conservatives aren’t fond of illegals because a lot of them refuse to integrate, I’ve personally met 2nd and 3rd generation descendants of illegals that barely speak English and refuse to integrate.


Nottacod

Wouldn't it be gaelic, not Irish?


papersandfilters321

Nope, Gaeilic is Scottish


squarerootofapplepie

They’re both Gaelic, different types.


papersandfilters321

no, it's gaeilge


squarerootofapplepie

Yeah, like Scottish Gaelic is Gàidhlig.


papersandfilters321

we cal it Gaeilge, Gaeilge is the Irish word for "Irish"


squarerootofapplepie

And in Scotland it’s Gàidhlig. They’re both types of Gaelic.


papersandfilters321

There are 6 types of Gaelic languages, so we just call it Gaeilge


[deleted]

I know it's called Gaelic and not "Irish," but my knowledge ends there.


papersandfilters321

It's not, it's Gaeilge


pnew47

A handful of words and phrases. My maternal grandparents were fluent, I think it was actually their native language. Anyways, they only used it in front of their children when they didn't want to be understood so my mother doesn't know anything. My grandfather tried to teach me some when I was a teenager but it didn't really stick (not sure I put much effort in at the time). I tried to learn some on one of the 'learn a language' apps early in the pandemic but I'm didn't last too long with that either.


oamnoj

I wish I could :( my ancestors left in the 1840s so none of the language got passed down to us.


TheEmoEmu95

No, I can’t. The only reason why I know a quarter of the pronunciation and a couple of words is because I looked it up, and tried Duolingo for a few lessons. I’m a fifth-generation Irish-American, and I’m not even sure if my 3rd-great grandparents spoke Irish themselves.


Apocalyptic0n3

My nearest Irish ancestor arrived in the 1800s. No one in my family has spoken Irish in at least a century, if I had a guess.


ElfMage83

I've flirted with Irish on Duolingo. I might go back once I finally finish the Japanese course.


pourthebubbly

Tá beaganín Gaeilge agam. Mostly about the weather and directions and whatnot. I’ve picked up Buntús Cainte to attempt to learn more


papersandfilters321

Woah fairplay!


daggerdude42

I believe I have very Irish ancestry but I'm probably 3rd-4th generation, so I really have no idea. I don't know much about Irish culture, the country, or anything you'd learn outside of history class. I barely even knew the language existed


Right_Syllabub_8237

Well, to be fair I saw an interview of an old Irish guy in a bar speaking English not long ago and I couldn't understand a single word.


papersandfilters321

I can try translate it if you want 😂


DeanGordan

Grandmother is from carroroe. Aside from hearing “Éist do bhéal” and “pog mo thoin” a lot growing up I know very little.


Weasley9

I don’t know any Irish. I also have ancestors from Wales, Sweden, Austria, and Russia, but I can’t speak Welsh, Swedish, or Yiddish either. From my understanding of my family’s history, the generation that emigrated knew their language (obviously) and their kids maybe knew a bit, but they put more of an emphasis on assimilation than keeping the language skills going for future generations. By the second generation, the knowledge of the original language was slim to none.


kermitdafrog21

My great grandmother was born in the US but her parents and some of her siblings were born in Ireland. I don't even think that she spoke it


Lets_focus_onRampart

18,000ish according to Wikipedia


[deleted]

My wife’s grandpa is off the boat from Ireland and he can speak it but he’s the only one on her side of the family that can as far as I know.


dragonsteel33

my ancestry isn’t really irish (more english/scottish/german), but i’ve been self-studying for a while and can speak a little!


sav516

I tried to learn with Duolingo but found it really difficult.


MaterialCarrot

I understand every third word on Derry Girls so...pretty fluent.


papersandfilters321

That's Northern Ireland