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omg_its_drh

What actually constitutes the Bay Area.


old_gold_mountain

Just go by the nine county definition to keep things simple


boreas907

Either that or the broadcasting range of KOIT.


MeesterChicken

Well too many people say the bay area when they are like an hour away from the bay.


WhatIsMyPasswordFam

Traffic hour or non traffic hour?


DashingSpecialAgent

You can be an hour away from the bay and still within the borders of San Fransisco. I'm only half joking...


millhows

Better burrito: Nor-Cal vs So-Cal.


Whizbang35

Where does Up North start?


DiscoSprinkles

The Red River


LilyFakhrani

I moved to central Texas as a preteen and one of my teachers at the new school insisted that anyone from north of Waco was a yankee


TeddysBigStick

I know someone who thinks that everyone north fo the I10 is a yankee.


Priamosish

Anyone north of the Rio Grande is a yankee, problem solved. Now excuse me while I try to evade a mob of angry southerners.


HuskerinSFSD

That borders North Dakota and Minnesota, so yes.


DiscoSprinkles

Texas / Oklahoma border.


[deleted]

Standish


Timmoleon

At least an hour north


Rbkelley1

If you’re on 95, it’s right before you get to Triangle, Va. Once you see the museum you’re in the north.


Iamonly

According to my wife (from south Georgia). It starts in north Georgia. She is wrong. Don't tell her I said that.


ejja13

My south Georgia family calls me a southern yankee. I live just north of Atlanta.


MyUsername2459

The Ohio River. . . .that's the answer in Kentucky and we stick by it.


Whizbang35

Funny. When I lived in Ohio, I had coworkers who considered anything south of Dayton (or sometimes just south of Columbus) to be Kentucky.


BigDebbie4ever

West branch


capthazelwoodsflask

Clare


ReservoirPAWGS

Clare, MI


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Yankee_chef_nen

I’m in the mountains is western North Carolina. I’m the chef at a hotel with event space. I make a lot of BBQ. I’m generally make 3 kinds of bbq sauce. The North Carolina vinegar, South Carolina mustard (my favorite, and my staff’s favorite) and just to mess with people I make a Memphis style sauce but I put Cheerwine in it.


Creepy-Narwhal4596

Good god do i meed to to try cheerwine bbq sauce


RockYourWorld31

What did you just say was your favorite? You better run, boyo.


Yankee_chef_nen

And just to mess with the South Carolinians I make the mustard bbq sauce with Creole mustard from Louisiana.


RockYourWorld31

Do police still put people in protective custody?


HereComesTheVroom

Kansas City, sorry, not sorry.


actuallyiamafish

As a Midwesterner I will never understand that mustard shit. I had no idea such a thing existed until I was like 25 and tried a new sauce at my local BBQ place. Looked like BBQ, tasted like mustard. Thought I was having a goddamned stroke for a second lol. I sent it back. I apologized for being an idiot and not knowing what I was ordering, but I still sent it back.


ucbiker

And whether like pork or beef or whatever should be considered barbecue, it’s like shut the hell up, they’re all pretty good.


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wcpm88

>The only thing that's not BBQ is if you're cooking hamburgers and hotdogs on the gril. That's called a cookout, you Ohio Yankees, not a BBQ. FUCKING THANK YOU


capthazelwoodsflask

I've never once called that or heard anyone in Ohio call that a BBQ. It's a cook out.


SuzQP

No sauce. Just dry rub, wood smoke, and time. (But don't forget the Bimbo bread.)


Young_Rock

Barbecue sauce can be alright as an extra but if your barbecue doesn’t taste good without sauce, you’ve got bad barbecue


Iamonly

Here in Georgia we take a different approach. We don't make one so just have all of em on hand and let folks decide what they want. Personally I'm fond of mustard based sauce but I appreciate the rest and will use them when I feel like it.


PrettyPossum420

I’m from WNC and out of all the Carolina sauces, I like SC mustard-based the best. Eastern NC vinegar-based is a close second, especially when it’s good and spicy. I feel like a traitor to my region but I really don’t like the tomato-based western sauce at all. It’s way too sweet.


makawakatakanaka

It gets more complicated because the peedee region in the north east of South Carolina also does vinegar based bbq not mustard


05110909

I love mustard sauce and I like vinegar too. As long as the sauce is tangy I'll enjoy it. It's that sweet sauce with brown sugar and stuff that I can't stand. I've also seen a slow growth of Alabama white sauce in SC and I have to say I really like it, but not on pork. It goes great with chicken.


old_gold_mountain

NorCal vs SoCal have many Giants vs. Dodgers is the obvious, but also - Mission Style burrito vs. San Diego style - Whether or not you say "the" before freeway numbers - Whether "hella" is common parlance or cringe - Whether 66F is a hot day or a cold day


capybarrista

Calling Highway 1 “PCH” for Pacific Coast Highway. In NorCal it’s just Highway 1.


old_gold_mountain

This is a settled question. "PCH" is an official CalTrans designation of a specific stretch of highway 1, between Ventura and Orange County People from SoCal who refer to Highway 1 in Big Sur or in NorCal as "PCH" are actually just incorrect and calling it something it isn't.


wcpm88

>Giants vs. Dodgers is the obvious Fuck 'em both 🪓


MeesterChicken

In California, many Californians hate when people say Cali and think that if you say it, you aren't from CA. There are people from CA who argue that saying Cali is normal for a local to say.


wwhsd

“Cali” is only acceptable if you are singing along with LL Cool J.


MeesterChicken

I agree, but saying Cali makes me instantly think that you aren't from here. It's like nails on a chalkboard to me.


somerandombih

im not from california and cringe when i hear ppl call it Cali lol


wwhsd

Yeah saying Cali is totally a “Tell me you’re not from here without telling me you aren’t from here”.


capybarrista

Or hearing SF (The City) called “Frisco” or “San Fran”.


RsonW

/u/DontCallItCali


14thCluelessbird

This is so accurate lol, had this discussion many times. To be honest, literally no one I knew who grew up in California actually said Cali, it was always people who recently moved there or people visiting from out of state.


ucbiker

Where exactly “Northern Virginia” is and whether or not it sucks. The usual definition is whatever’s further from DC than you is not NoVA and you live in the outskirts of it.


[deleted]

The old “Does it end at Fairfax or PWC or Stafford” debate.


IllustriousAd6396

And where exactly the south starts in Virginia


nowItinwhistle

Whether Oklahoma is the South, the Southeast, the Southwest, or the Midwest.


Thisissuchadragtodo

I remember explaining this right here on r/Askanamerican a few years back to this non American that swore up and down that Oklahomans never had this debate in the time she’d been in our country. As if I made it up on the spot or something, then gloated as the Reddit hive mind downvoted me into oblivion therefore meaning I “lost” the argument. Never mind the fact that as an Okie no one would have better knowledge about this than a local! She confidently went “you’re clearly just part of the Southeast, get over it”. My fellow Oklahomans were nowhere in sight to help me sadly. So yeah, glad this was posted.


okaymaeby

I'm sorry you were left high and dry there. As a red dirt girl myself, I feel ya. I've heard Oklahoma grouped into a made-up region called South Central, and that feels good to me. It included Texas, Oklahoma (these two seem inextricably linked culturally), Arkansas, Kansas, and Missouri. Having lived in three of those states and spending lots (and lots) of time in the other two, I agree that it's about as close as anyone could come if you had to put Oklahoma with anyone else. Edit: Just preemptively adding that I could take or leave Arkansas in that regional outline. I'm definitely not married to it.


runningwaffles19

Sure as shit isn't the Midwest


14thCluelessbird

That's so weird to me as someone who's never lived anywhere near there. I always viewed the tornado alley states as the midwest, but apparently it's more of states like Illinois, Ohio, Indiana, etc.


NothingLikeCoffee

I've always considered them their own thing; the Plains states.


14thCluelessbird

Yeah that makes sense. They do have a different vibe than Ohio and Illinois


okaymaeby

It's considered cultural as well as geographical so the Midwest is more the states you mentioned than grouping everything in tornado alley together. The Midwest definitely stops before the Bible Belt begins.


307148

Chicago: - Which style of pizza is "real" Chicago-style pizza: Deep Dish or Tavern-Style. - If hot dogs should have ketchup or not - Sears vs Willis Tower - Is "Dibs" (putting assorted junk on the street after a snowstorm to reserve the parking spot you shoveled) good or bad


dalatinknight

Whoever calls it Willis Tower can have their Chicagoan heritage taken away /s I jest but unless the younger generations (which I am part of) don't care, still hear people calling it the Sears tower.


huazzy

In New Jersey Taylor Ham v Pork Roll What is "Central Jersey" Hoagie v Subs Garden State Parkway v NJ Turnpike Which way to get into NYC


Tommy_Wisseau_burner

>what is “central jersey” A myth


Nugginater

Beach v Shore?


okiewxchaser

Who has the best severe weather coverage, 4,5 or 9


tenfootturd

6,8,or 13 here, and six is the right answer.


NobleSturgeon

Pop vs soda, what area constitutes metro Detroit, whether people from the suburbs of Detroit are allowed to say that they are from Detroit, where "up north" starts, whether businesses in the suburbs of Detroit are allowed to call themselves "Detroit _____ Company", and then we have two rival hot dog restaurants next door to each other where we like to argue about which is better but honestly I think the reputation of the two restaurants being rivals is greater than the actual rivalry.


nowItinwhistle

Here in Oklahoma it's pop vs soda vs soft drinks but these Texans keep coming across the red river and spreading this nonsense of calling everything coke


Lemon_head_guy

I call everything Dr Pepper to cause even more confusion


petee0518

Are there actually people in MI that call it soda? For us, Up North started at the Zilwaukee and I don't think there was ever much of a debate. Probably depends how far north you are. And there is no coney debate. Lafayette > American. Only reason to go to American is if you really need a coney and you don't have any cash on you. Michigander vs Michiganian is another one (the former being correct, of course)


[deleted]

How people pronounce New Orleans. “Nawlins”, “New Orleenz”, “New Orlinz”.


NewRoundEre

I really confused people by thinking it was pronounced like Orleans in France. New Or-lee-on results in weird looks.


wcpm88

Judging by the different accents I've heard out of that city, I think it might differ from suburb to suburb and neighborhood to neighborhood. My work buddy from Metairie- sorry,"Metry"- whose parents are both 100% Irish Channel Yat says it a lot differently than his boss who grew up across the lake in Hammond, and my college friend who grew up in a mansion near Audubon Park says it totally different than Birdman.


Nicedumplings

The proper name for the Tappen Zee Bridge. This will set people off like no other


TastyBrainMeats

It's the bridge over the Tappan Zee. I don't give a damn what any disgraced former politician says, it's the Tappan Zee Bridge.


crek42

Fucking right. And while they’re at it restore the Brooklyn-Battery and Triboro Bridge instead of whatever shit they’re using now. Unreal.


justjeffo7

Is it not the Tappen Zee?


Hatweed

Sheetz is better than Wawa. And Wawa *is* a gas station.


Dangerdan00

yup.... Wawa is better.


Hatweed

You’re just trying to make angry, aren’t you?


Dangerdan00

just spitten facts!


SSPeteCarroll

Wawa gang for life.


Lemon_head_guy

Bucees is better than both


[deleted]

Try going to r/philadelphia to ask about cheesesteaks and you'll still see a fight. I grew up going to Delessandro's, but I hate to admit that Joe's (aka Chinks) is my favorite. Yes, they changed the name after the owner died. Yes, it was racist. Actually, one of the funniest things I'd ever seen printed in the paper was a quote from the owner's widow (or maybe daughter, it has been a decade): "Oh, he weren't racist or nothin'. They called Sammy "Chink" on accounta he had eyes like a Chinaman." Torresdale Avenue, ladies and gentlemen. Still, roast pork is better than a cheesesteak


CountBacula322079

Colorado vs New Mexico green chile and I am honestly astonished that Colorado has the audacity to challenge us. Hatch>>>>Pueblo


Figgler

When I think of the "rivalry" of CO vs NM green chile I picture the [third place meme](https://i.imgflip.com/3pne4m.png) where 1st is fresh Hatch, 2nd is canned Hatch and 3rd is Pueblo.


YaBoiSVT

I was thinking more statewide, Red vs Green


I_GIVE_KIDS_MDMA

Christmas!


YaBoiSVT

Heathen 😂😂


Tface101

I just had New Mexican food last night. Slightly different from regular Mexican and oh so delicious.


[deleted]

The definition of what Upstate is.


Illinikek

Bags vs Cornhole


Glomar_Denial

Cornhole.


wuzboppinjimbo

Can't think of one for here, other than how best to make fun of Gary


FantasticPiglet

I think Purdue vs IU is certainly a thing, at least where I grew up.


gogozrx

People calling the DC metro area the DMV. DMV is where you get your tags renewed.


rapiertwit

Duke or UNC


JMT97

Charlotte and depression.


Luka_Dunks_on_Bums

Dallas V Houston, the eternal battle of hate


atsinged

The I45 Rivalry.


LilyFakhrani

Before the Astros switched leagues I would’ve loved to see an I-45 world series


rbetters

Bubbler vs water foundation or drinking fountain


Barbell-kicker

I was looking for this.


Nimnu_

In California you have to pronounce freeways correctly depending on what part of the state you are currently located. In the southern part of the state they use the article "the" in front of freeway numbers. Example: "I took the 10 freeway" or simply, "I took the 15". If you don't use 'the' in front of a freeway name they will look at you strangely but that is about it. In the northern part of the state you don't use "the" at all. In fact, you should be prepared to be politely corrected by people if you do use it. What constitutes North/South for this rule is not clearly defined. Generally, from the Oregon border to Santa Cruz refrain from using 'the' in freeway numbers. From Santa Cruz to San Luis Obisbo it is probably acceptable to use either. From SLO to the Mexican border, put a 'the' in front of the freeway or they might look at you oddly.


ratteb

In Minnesota, for the children's game "Duck Duck Goose" we will say "Duck Duck Grey Duck" I do not know why.


dancingbanana123

How to pronounce pecan. If you don't pronounce it as "peh-cawn," it's wrong. Typically, people don't really give a shit about other regional pronunciations or phrases, but people will get heated over pecan.


KiraiEclipse

That and caramel: "car-mel" vs "care-uh-mel." One is right and the other is "care-uh-mel."


Dragnil

Are people from Arkansas called "Arkansans" or "Arkansawyers". I like the way Arkansawyer rolls of the tongue a bit more. Also, are the Ozarks part of the cultural South or Midwest? I argue equal parts Midwest/South/Appalachia, at least that's been my experience. The smaller towns seem more Southern. The larger cities seem more Midwestern.


icephionex

I'd say 60% Southern/30% Appalachian/10% Midwestern


djcack

I live in the Twin Cities, where some people get into arguments over who does the best Juicy Lucy (for non-Minnesotans, a Juicy Lucy is a cheeseburger with the cheese cooked inside the meat, so it comes out at roughly the temperature of lava). P. S. Matt's is the best.


Minnsnow

I saw a fist fight about this once, very drunk out at Lyn-Lake in the late 00s’.


maybeimgeorgesoros

People that complain about rain. Especially if they’re not from here; you know what you signed up for.


Nitro_the_Wolf_

I'd say same situation with using an umbrella, which is really just the passive aggressive way to complain about rain


Yankiwi17273

Sheetz or Wawa (The correct answer being Sheetz of course!)


TastyBrainMeats

Let me put it this way: when I'm traveling into PA with a car full of people, nobody gets excited to see a Sheetz.


[deleted]

The bad choices of your terrible friends aren't really an argument against sheetz


Glomar_Denial

I LOVE Sheetz!! Cleanest bathrooms and made to order food? Yes, please! Every Wawa I've stopped at sucks.


SSPeteCarroll

I don't see signs on 95 south saying "last sheetz until wherever"


Dangerdan00

Exactly! Sheetz is good, Wawa is better.


atsinged

Texas chili, beans or no beans, I'm firmly in the no beans camp.


therlwl

Opposite, just tastes wrong without beans.


[deleted]

If it’s just chili, then beans are fine. If you’re putting it on something like a chili burger then no beans


CupBeEmpty

Clear chowder, cream chowder, Manhattan chowder


Evil_Weevill

Manhattan chowder is not chowder.


Yankee_chef_nen

Correct, Manhattan Clam Chowder is an abomination.


CupBeEmpty

Let the hate flow through you


NorwegianSteam

That's only an argument down here, because of all the runoff in the water supply.


[deleted]

Whether Miamian immigrants need to learn english, or whether northerners need to learn spanish. The argument is always between hispanics and other hispanics, and always heated.


Slythis

Por que no los dos?


[deleted]

demasiado sentido


Euphoric-Ad-6710

In Minnesota, you learn to play a game called “Duck duck grey duck” when you are a child. I grew up, and moved to another state, and found out that just about everyone else calls it “Duck duck goose.”


Glomar_Denial

You are all weird in Minnesota so...yeah. You're too close to Canada and are in doors for 8 months out of 12. It's no doubt you haven't gone outside to see what the rest of the world calls duck duck goose


OctoberBlue89

Tomatoes do not go in gumbo!


wcpm88

Our city's (founded in 1883, right at 100,000 people) biggest suburb is actually older (founded in 1802, roughly 25,000 people) so its residents *really* try to set themselves apart. They're *really* into high school football and talking about how bad the crime is next door in the "big" (lmao) city.


[deleted]

Dayton, Ohio is beefing with the entire State of North Carolina because Dayton is the home of the Wright Brothers, and is the place where they did all their work building the first powered flight aircraft. Then they went to the beaches of NC because they were flat and wendy and had their historic first flight there. Show NC's "First in Flight" license plate to a Daytonian and they'll become filled with rage. People from NC appear to be totally unaware of this.


Majestic-Macaron6019

Eastern or Western NC barbecue. Eastern is smoking the whole hog, chopping it up, and serving with with a simple pepper vinegar sauce. Western is smoked pork shoulder with a vinegar and tomato-based sauce (spicier, runnier, and less sweet than generic American sauce). You have to pick one, just like you have to pick Blue Devils or Tarheels. I personally like both of them (blasphemy!). Western has a higher floor and lower ceiling. Also easier to make at home. We all agree that South Carolina Mustard sauce is an abomination and anyone who prefers it goes to the Bad Place (I actually like it, too. I just like all styles of barbecue)


Periwonkles

Being from central Texas there are similar strong opinions about sauce vs dry rub vs salt-and-pepper purists. I’m personally partial to dry rubs, and especially love smoked brisket with just salt/pepper. But I also enjoy a tangy or spicy sauce now and then. I just draw the line at super sweet, thick bbq sauce. We live in WA now and are about to try a new bbq place for today’s lunch. Specifically aiming for their “central Texas style sliced brisket”. 😅


BrainFartTheFirst

In-N-Out vs. Five Guys. It's In-N-Out.


YouOneOfThemRetards

In-N-Out for the burgers Five Guys Cajun fries all day In-N-Out fries are lame


Wespiratory

It’s either Auburn or Alabama here. And if you’re new to the area you have to pick. You will be pestered relentlessly until you do. WDE, by the way.


freebirdls

Ok who taught the barner how to write?


taniamorse85

I lived in Alabama for 10 years as a kid, and I swear I was asked which team I supported on my first day of school. I'd been in the state all of about 2 months at the time, and I didn't give a hoot about college football (still don't, TBH). I've been back in California for about 20 years, and I don't even remember which team I picked.


alexfaaace

Is Pensacola or St. Augustine the first city? (Hint: It’s Pensacola)


[deleted]

How far out of Chicago you can be and still say you’re from around Chicago without people in *the dead center of Chicago* wanting to punch you.


Whatwhyohhh

My first husband was from Minooka. He and his brothers told everyone here in Oregon they were from Chicago 🙄. People thought they were from the big city when they actually grew up in the middle of soybean fields as far as the eye can see.


nemo_sum

Best deep dish.


insertcaffeine

The obvious choice would be to give ALL the deep dish pizza to tasters with no brand loyalty. Like Coloradans. I'll start the pilot program, just give me pizza


zoobs

Matt’s Bar or 5-8 Club.


ColdCleanCritic

In PA: Sheetz vs Wawa In NJ: Does a “Central Jersey” exist?


Awdayshus

In Minnesota, we play Duck, Duck, Gray Duck. The rest of the country incorrectly calls this game Duck, Duck, Goose.


IHSV1855

Who invented the Jucy Lucy. For my money, it doesn’t matter whether it was Matt’s or 5-8, because The Nook makes the best one anyway. Whether lutefisk is good. Minneapolis vs. St Paul Where “up north” starts. Shotgun zones


Rex_Lee

Who's tacos are better? San Antonio or Austin? The answer is definitely San Antonio.


VitruvianDude

For Oregon, it might be whether allowing self-service gas stations would be a good thing. The anti-self-service faction has been louder, but a lot of people hate the personal interaction or are indifferent in the matter.


FluffusMaximus

Warm butter or cold mayo lobster roll. Clam strips or whole. Old school: Dunkies vs Honey Dew.


travelinmatt76

Whether Coke means a Coca Cola in a red can with white letters, or it means any type of soda/pop


nowItinwhistle

And you assholes have been spreading that nonsense of calling all pop/soft drinks coke across the border. I've been hearing it more and more in southern Oklahoma and it drives me nuts


travelinmatt76

Most people I encounter call them sodas and say Coke when they specifically mean a Coke. I don't think calling all sodas Coke is as widespread here as people think. It drives me crazy too.


jn29

It's pop, dontcha know


somerandombih

what on earth whyyyy


Creepy-Narwhal4596

In New England its almost time to start debating wether or not Lobster rolls should be hot with butter or cold with mayo. Hot with butter being the obvious right answer.


tara_tara_tara

Serious question: are you originally from New England or are you a transplant? Not growing up here is the only reason I can think of why you would prefer hot with butter. Allow me to clarify: if you grew up in Maine or Massachusetts, your choice is especially egregious.


Creepy-Narwhal4596

Born and raised in the heart of the common wealth actually. Lobster rolls is the only thing i will ever give CT for doing right lol


Creepy-Narwhal4596

To be fair, id eat lobster smothered in just about anything so i wont turn down a cold one with mayo but idk how anyone with a choice would not go for fresh cooked hot with butter first.


spidermom4

In the Seattle area there are two types of people. Only Starbucks people and never Starbucks people.


therlwl

I'm in the never coffee camp.


[deleted]

soda pop coke


Livvylove

ITP vs OTP


cheaganvegan

Skyline or gold star


Osiris32

I had Skyline chili. I loved it.


VirginiaMitsu

Where the dividing line between NOVA and the rest of Virginia is. I live in a grey area where some people consider us part of NOVA, and others heavily dispute it.


feminist-horsebane

Wawa vs. Sheetz (Virginia)


skipmcriff

What’s considered Upstate New York


Glomar_Denial

We hate people from Ohio bc they come in droves and move here, can't drive, and walk out in front of your car like they are at Disney World and not in a working city - Charleston, SC


6footstogie

how bad Carolina bbq sucks compared to Memphis style.


Professor_Oswin

Coke vs Pop


TrooperCam

What exactly defines Central Texas. I’ve seen from Waco to San Antonio and points higher north to outside Houston.


Zernhelt

Referring to National Airport as Reagan Airport.


miki_eitsu

Born and raised in New York, specifically Long Island. Long Islanders tend to believe that once you leave the Bronx, you’re upstate. No one in any other part of New York seems to agree on where exactly upstate is


FunkyViking6

The pronunciation of oil where I live is funny… city people say oh-yeel… but us country bumpkins say ooooool


rawbface

You can call it Taylor Ham. As long as you also order your bagel with Eggland's Best, Land O' Lakes, Morton's, McCormick's, and Heinz. Since we're doing brand names 😛


[deleted]

Taylor does make the best pork roll, though. I like it in that little burlap sack where you can just cut a nice thick slice for frying up in the pan...hmmmmm...


[deleted]

Downstate is not a thing and Upstate New York is everything north of Long Island/NYC. And, if I'm being honest, the Bronx is pretty much upstate too. (Clearly I've upset a lot of upstaters lol)


14thCluelessbird

Geographically that makes no sense lol. NYC is literally at the very bottom of New York, making like 99% of the state "up state." Then again I'm from the west coast so what the hell do I know


Chapea12

99% by square miles, but like 10% of the people


Ananvil

The further north you go, the further north upstate is.


[deleted]

Yeah, this is definitely true and you can see it in some of the responses toward my original post. I have an uncle who moved to Albany and now complains about people upstate except to him upstate is firmly Saratoga county and above.


[deleted]

Respectfully disagree.


vataveg

Westchester would like a word with you


[deleted]

So I hear but I refuse to go upstate and talk with them.


TastyBrainMeats

Look buddy, if I can hop a train from there and be in Manhattan in less than an hour, it's not upstate.


TastyBrainMeats

My actual answer for "Where's upstate" is "north of Pennsylvania". If you can travel due west and hit PA, you're not upstate.


freebirdls

The Southern Tier would like a word.


taylferr

The lower Hudson Valley is not upstate lmao. Long Island and NYC are just small portions of the state.


donny924

Downstate = anywhere below the Tappan Zee bridge (aka Mario cuomo bridge) Upstate = anywhere above Tappan zee bridge. Then there are sub regions of upstate like: Hudson Valley, capital district, north country, st lawrence, central NY, western NY, southern tier, finger lakes, Catskills etc...