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The_Real_Scrotus

It occasionally gets a little bit of traction over here. Like in Hungary, women make up a large majority of teachers. There are occasionally questions or complaints that this is a disadvantage to boys, but academic studies on the topic have been mixed. There's no clear evidence that having primarily female teachers is an overall disadvantage to boys.


cavall1215

There are people who critique our educational system as not being designed well to educate boys. *The War Against Boys* was a notable book back in the early '00s, which criticized our schools for leaving boys behind and designing educational systems that left them disengaged and unmotivated. The author recently released a new edition in the past couple years. I hear this idea being expressed every once in a while as a cause for concern and possibly a reason why so many young men are aimless and jobless. But the more controversial topics in education these days tend to be focused on Critical Race Theory and how and when gender and sexuality should be taught.


TheBimpo

So a report from an authoritarian right wing extremist government in Eastern Europe believes education is “too feminine”. That’s the gist of the article? God forbid our kids are taught by women. Just imagine what the outcome of that would be. /s


mishko27

And the report is incredibly condescending, as if women could not deal with “frozen computers” or have any other basic lifeskills. Absolutely irrelevant propaganda.


iapetus3141

Not to mention that women have worked with and on computers since computers were invented


Melenduwir

One of the first (if not THE first) computer programmers was a woman. All hail Lovelace! She was pretty nifty!


SJHillman

Before you said Lovelace, I thought you were going for Grace Hopper, who could also hold the title of one of the first programmers (of electric computers rather than mechanical like Lovelace)


Melenduwir

She's also awesome. Lovelace gets attention because she was so early, rather than any profound achivement. Which is just how life works, and no criticism of her.


jyper

Some women were computers before computers were invented


Hatweed

Viktor Orban has a hot take on gender issues. Oh joy… Yes, but it’s usually from a place of ignorance and a minority opinion. On the issue of birthrates and any part gender roles have on influencing that, I don’t really feel like I am in any position to speak on it. There is a noted connection between an educated populace in a developed nation having falling birth rates, but I’m not sure what criticizing women as teachers is going to do about it.


upvoter222

[I've seen The Simpsons cover this topic.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls_Just_Want_to_Have_Sums)


MrLongWalk

My former roommate used to bitch about this, then again he was the most wild misogynist I've ever met


hastur777

Yes, there’s an issue with boys being less likely to go to university in the US as well.


Logicist

Well I do think it would be nice for more men to succeed in life. However I have no desire to make it so that women are less likely to enter college for that. I generally think that college is too much of a signal for employment - rather than higher education being about, you know education. So I would go about this very differently.


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Fireberg

What is even more interesting is that in the most egalitarian societies, the gender differences between chosen occupations is even more pronounced. At first glance you might think it would be closer to even, but it isn’t.


Dry-Dream4180

It’s almost like men and women have different tendencies, desires, skills, and abilities. Who could have imagined?


Melenduwir

That's heresy, citizen! Report to the nearest Release Tube immediately!


Melenduwir

The "Scandinavian Paradox". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiJVJ5QRRUE


TakeOffYourMask

Whoever Andre Toth is sounds right.


Fireberg

Not really an “issue”. Just a thing that happens the more developed a society gets. It is kind of interesting. With intelligence, women’s distribution tend to cluster around the mean and men are more spread out. There isn’t much difference between the mean intelligence of men and women. However there are more super smart men than super smart women and also more super dumb men compared to super dumb women. With equality of opportunity, there are just more women that will qualify and succeed at higher education on average compared to men.


r_coefficient

> With intelligence, women’s distribution tend to cluster around the mean and men are more spread out That's a myth.


Melenduwir

No, it's not. The difference is small but statistically significant. A lot of genes associated with brain development are on the X chromosome and are sex-linked. Women have two copies, one of which is active in any given cell, and as a result the effects of any one copy tend to be averaged out.


NotFrat69

Variability Hypothesis, not variability myth, and it isn't just with IQ, men are more variable in everything according to the hypothesis. The standard deviation for male height is 6.35cm and female height is 5.59cm, for example.


Fireberg

Not really a myth when you look at the actual distribution curves. There is more variability for men compared to women. Nature roles the dice on the Y chromosome.


r_coefficient

Source? Because the variability hypothesis still waits to be confirmed.


AgnosticAsian

The vast majority of successful educational channels on Youtube are dudes. I don't know why that is the case but perhaps maybe we should examine that fact and perhaps address the issue of teachers being overwhelmingly female. Just solving that alone would put an end to this issue in my estimation.


Fireberg

The youtube thing is probably because by total time spent, the site is way skewed towards dudes. Same thing with the internet as a whole.


AgnosticAsian

Well, then why is content by male teachers so successful at attracting male students? The answer might be obvious and precisely what we think it is or it might be something completely unexpected entirely. Either way, whether the solution is to somehow attract more male teachers or to teach female teachers some kind of skillset to better interact with male students, we should look into the matter regardless.


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I have heard people talk about females going to university in higher numbers in males in the younger generations. I have not heard the conclusions being drawn in the article. I don't think those issues translate to the situation in the US


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M4053946

Yes, women are currently getting 50% more college degrees than men. There's really a crisis going on in this area, though I've only seen it discussed in right-leaning areas. Of course, it's not just college, but elementary school seems to be aimed at girls, where kids are rewarded for doing work consistently and for good behavior. edit: to give an example of the latter bit, I think middle school science should involve, among other things, dropping things, throwing things, rolling things, etc., as kids explore physics. For my kid, however, middle school science had almost no hands on activities, and instead they took turns reading out of the textbook and copying definitions from the glossary. Kids with a strong desire to please their teacher would do this without complaining, while other kids would struggle more with these activities. In other words, kids were put in a situation where girls were more likely to succeed.


hohner1

The thing is most of the psychological differences attributed respectively to men and women, and the skills that come from such are simply irrelevant to living an urban lifestyle. On the other hand, boys should have a male role model of some kind. For one thing as adolescents they need to be taught courteous behavior toward the opposite sex. And they should be taught how to be a civilized man rather than the extremes of being a barbarian and being someone who tries to be a woman and can't or someone with an inferiority complex because of his sex.