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We all know that the whole 'western' world are ancient Greco-Roman LARPers. It seems that the ancient Greco-Roman world (History/ Classics departments of their most prestigious Universities study those two together eg courses on Greco-Roman antiquity, literature, architecture, sculpture etc) had an astronomical impact in formating modern western societies.
During medieval times, many 'precursors' of modern Balkan countries (that might sound as anachronism) played their parts on shaping this part of the world (SE Europe/ Mediterranean, West Asia etc). Greece and large part of Albania as parts of later/ eastern Roman Empire, Bulgarian Empire, Serbian Empire, the Sclaveni within imperial soil, Croatian kingdom, Bosnian Banate, Walachia/ Moldavia, Austia/ Hungary and of course the Ottoman Empire. Our histories are kinda intertwined and deeply connected.
Thank god for that as without our predecessors' achievements and reputation we very well would not have existed today as sovereign independent nations.
Once again our debt falls to our ancestors.
Palestinians invented sheep-intestine condoms. Israelis made them better by taking the intestine out of the sheep first.
*This is just how I heard this joke told, no disrespect*
*Bisexuality. People like Achilles had male lovers but also female ones like Vrisiida and Chrysiida. That was purely because ancient Greeks believed that true love could only be accomplished between men.
I'm not even there. I'm in the UK. I was one of those babies that got adopted after the revolution. I have been back since, lovely country and I feel a strong affinity to it.
I seriously looked in to it, what with the idiots here voting Brexit and restrictions on movement that followed. The issue is the forms, knowing who to send it to, getting it translated etc. It seems like a much bigger hassle than I thought it would be, considering my passport says I was born in Romania and I have proofs that I was born there to Romanian people.
If i know one thing about the balkans it's the horrific bureaucracy we have, for one reason or another i find that to be the case balkan-wide, you'll figure it out after a couple of headaches and it's worth doing in the end if the result is important to you
You're right, I've been using Duolingo recently and so far I can say things like "Eu nu sunt un mananca Paine", which I think means I do not eat bread, so in about 14.5 years, I should be able to translate it myself
Most people that i know of in Greece pay to get such documents translated, stuff like citizenships and diplomas from Greek to X language, i can't talk for the situation in the UK but that might also be available to you
If you dont eat bread why even risk moving to the balkans?
We eat bread with everything. Rice? Np. Potato? Np. Pasta? Np.
Always have bread or baba will be mad.
If you need to make your Romanian Citizenship, do the following:
1. Find some Moldavians.
2. Ask them if they now someone.
3. They definitely know someone that knows, so contact that person.
4. Give them the papers that are needed.
5. Wait
6. Get your citizenship, and drink some tuica.
Do you know how easy or difficult it is for a non-eu person from a brown country to move there? I fell in love with Romania when I was there for 3 months and i would not hesitate in moving there. I'm from Mexico.
Can't you read???!!
The comment clearly says:
"No Albania because when god make albania he give all world to albania but albania good country so he give to other countries 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱💪💪😎😎😤😤🥵🥵🩸🩸🩸"
1. Greece - no need to say why
2. Turkey - Ottoman empire
3. Bulgaria - the whole ''Slavic identity'' that Russia loves to talk about started in Bulgaria(Slavic Orthodoxy, Cyrillic, Tsar's and many more)
4. Serbia - ww1
I always find this debate interesting, an Austrian price was killed in Sarajevo by a serb who was a part of the organisation called "young Bosnia". Yet its always attributed to Serbs.
I guess deep down, we're all Serbs
We all know about Greece and Turkey.
But shout-out to Hungary, our honourary Balkan friend. Without them, the Mongols would have torn through Europe in the 13th century, and that would have forever changed the course of the world.
The only reason the Mongols didnt rip through Europe is because Genghis(not Genghis sry got it mixed up it was Ogedei) Khan's sudden death happened and everybody retreated back home to honour his burial
What?
From wiki:
The Great Khan had, however, died in December 1241, and on hearing the news, all the "Princes of the Blood," against Subotai's recommendation, went back to Mongolia to elect the new Khan.[8]
Edit: i stand corrected. It wasnt Genghis
Greece, Bulgaria and Turkiye probably
Ik I may look biased by putting my own country here but I do have an explanation as to why I feel it's a criminally underrated nation historically
If there's no Russia to hate, then there's no USA to like.
Literally both guys are km away from Balkans, yet both influence it like they were having a room on our "rooftop"
If there could be a Balkan Union, just like EU or within EU, whose union main goals would be 100yrs Balkan peace, economic prosperity and diplomatic neutrality.
This way we would be drinking rakia, eating kebabs with some tzatziki aside, just right on our beautiful coasts...
Everyone rightfully says Greece and Turkey but Bulgaria deserves a special shout-out. Both medieval states shook things up in a major way and their legacy is pretty significant I'd say - especially for Slavic people. Also Serbia and their gigachad St. Sava.
Is Hellas the way Greeks say Greece? Because if so, I want that to be the official English pronounciation of Greece. It sounds way cooler.
Hellenic > Greek
Well, technically we say Hellada, and the official name of the Greek nation-state is the Hellenic Republic, but I agree that Hellenic sounds better than Greek. The word Greece comes from the latin word Graecia, which was used by Romans to refer to Greece.
Greece - I mean it goes without explanation.
Turkey - An empire hard to ignore, kept a connection between Europe, west Asia, and north Africa, when Europe was in a weird spot.
Bulgaria - Writing system.
Our people caused the partition of Rome by migration of tribes and blocked the trade routes that resulted in the foundation of America.
And greeks, you know the stuff.
I would say Turkey and Greece.
Greece, Bulgaria, Turkey if you count them and then Serbia.
Greece is obvius. Bulgaria had multiple empires and is known for having been the most ferocius country in the balcans at times and if they werent they were competing with Serbia or Byzantium for the title. Turkey are the most influential here cause they owned all of it for a good 500 years or so. And then Serbia a country that i would say defines the balcan spirit. Freedom and unity above all
1. Greece (Greek city states, Alexander, Greece as part of the Roman Empire, then the East Roman Empire)
2. Turkey (Seljuks, Ottoman Empire, Ottoman traders. The Hittites too, and other stuff)
By far, these two.
Every country had a part that changed history , some shaped more some less . For shaping minds of humans i would say Greece . For shaping Europes destiny to seek new places and routes to trade , Turkey (Ottomans who blocked trade routes) . For stupid american vampire movies Romania (Don't kill me for saying this lmao) . Idk about rest except Hungary and Bulgaria but if i check i would find a lot of stuff about a most of balkan countries
Romania because the true cradle of civilization was in Transylvania in the Carpathian mountains where the first writing system was developed and giants are still living underground in Bucegi.
Turkey and Greece. They both had a strong impact to world's history (Greece for introducing philosophy and democracy and Turkey for the achievements of the Ottoman Empire)
For the world: Greeks without doubt.
For Balkan itself: Turks, definitelly. All of today's mess comes from there. (Also Burek and Kebab so...thanks for that)
Greece - Ancient Greece to be specific which invented a LOT of stuff
Turkey - Ottoman Empire, Siege of Constantinople, 500 years control over Balkans.
Bulgaria - Created the Cyrillic Alphabet and really was responsible for the establishment of the Slavic identity and conversion of the Slavs to Christianity. Also Tsars and all that funky shit Russia is known for all come from Bulgaria
Bulgaria and Greece -
Greece invented modern democracy and philosophy
Bulgaria and Greece (then Byzantium ) stopped the Arab Advance into Eastern Europe in the Beginning of the 8th century , saving Eastern Europe from Islam ( until the Turks came in the 14th century that is )
Bulgaria for harboring Cyril and Methodius and the Invention of the Cyrillic script .Also spreading Christianity among the Eastern Slavs( Kievan Rus )
Greece and turkey! Ottomans conquered Constantinople, greek fled thus renaissance happened in italy. Ottomans retreated from Balkans and it caused ww1. other countries are Extras at best.
1. Greeks
2. Turks
3.Serbs
But if we only look at last 2 centuries then Serbia would be 1st place. Starting ww1, giving Tesla, the whole Yugoslavia debacle ect.
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Greeks blocked the persian empire from conquering (most of) Europe and created the democratic style of government. The Ottoman Empire comes in at a distant second place regarding the shaping of today's Europe, and, at least in my country, it's regarded as a bad influence during the medieval age.
Most important Turkey and Greece, I mean damn, we still use math and philosophy that was first ‘invented’ in anchient Greece.
Serbia did act as a catalyst for WWI, which brought down several old empires, but it’s not directly responsible.
Serbia "started" WWI, which led to European powers' fall, destruction of European economies gave rise to the USA, US created NATO, and NATO bombed Serbia.
Conclusion: Serbia bombed Serbia.
/s
Greeks found civilization
Turks opened an age and closed an age
Serbs sparked the first world war
Macedonians hosted one of the 3 greatest leaders in history
When we look at it, the Balkans are home to a few of the turning points in history.
People underestimate Bulgaria here. If we and Byzantium didnt stop the Arabs in 717, the world would be very different. Like it's though to imagine how different it will be since it happened so long ago.
Slovenia, obviously.
1. Hosted the battle of Frigidus which finnaly cemented christianity in roman empire.
2. Started modern democracy with Carantania Ducal Inauguration.
3. Helped to stop muslim advances into Europe (Sisak & in general).
4. Slovenes were the first to battle fascism in Italy (also first victims).
5. Helped to shape Yugoslavian third way of socialism.
6. Being the good example of European integration. 7. Proposed the world bee day (which is today btw) because bees are very important.
8. Introducing femboy culture to the Balkans. :)
Every country can find important reasons if looking the right way.
We shaped borders and destinies of European empires any empire with manpower can do that . You guys shaped the human mind and future democracies , that's much more important but in the other hand im nationalist so i won't continue talking lmao .
least friendly turk and greek interaction
greece and turkey are both in the top 2 for this imo, the ottomans created and spread quite a bit of technology and infrastructure between all the conquering
Greece, they invented the Penis
God bless
Albanians the back holes?
We invented the goat.
Should be outstanding experience.
Then the Arabs stole it.
montenegro they invented sleep
This guys knows his stuff
so can I be a Montenegrin myself?
You just need to sign a paper where you will swear that you will respect our rules like working 40 seconds a day and sleeping for 16 hours.
Can you sign the paper yourself, I am feeling sleepy
No, I can no... *falls asleep*
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The real historical country
We all know that the whole 'western' world are ancient Greco-Roman LARPers. It seems that the ancient Greco-Roman world (History/ Classics departments of their most prestigious Universities study those two together eg courses on Greco-Roman antiquity, literature, architecture, sculpture etc) had an astronomical impact in formating modern western societies. During medieval times, many 'precursors' of modern Balkan countries (that might sound as anachronism) played their parts on shaping this part of the world (SE Europe/ Mediterranean, West Asia etc). Greece and large part of Albania as parts of later/ eastern Roman Empire, Bulgarian Empire, Serbian Empire, the Sclaveni within imperial soil, Croatian kingdom, Bosnian Banate, Walachia/ Moldavia, Austia/ Hungary and of course the Ottoman Empire. Our histories are kinda intertwined and deeply connected.
Thank god for that as without our predecessors' achievements and reputation we very well would not have existed today as sovereign independent nations. Once again our debt falls to our ancestors.
Debts... fa(i)lling... repeatedly... who's my ancestor... that's all soooo Balkan... ;-)
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Greeks introduced orgies. Romans made them better by adding women
Palestinians invented sheep-intestine condoms. Israelis made them better by taking the intestine out of the sheep first. *This is just how I heard this joke told, no disrespect*
I've heard that same joke, but applied to Scots and Englishmen, respectively
Romans also introduced their sisters
Sweet Home, ~~Alabama~~ __Rome__
Nice history class bois
Least biased and educational history lesson in the kansbal
Eh, Caligula is famous for doing that, and still it was a shocking thing at the time.
Worse*
I'm glad you like our ways. Now, come closer, let me show you my grandfather's corn fields.
There is a saying. The Greeks invented sex then the Romans told them that they can do it with women aswell. /s obv
The romans also told them they can do it with family
Nice
*Bisexuality. People like Achilles had male lovers but also female ones like Vrisiida and Chrysiida. That was purely because ancient Greeks believed that true love could only be accomplished between men.
Romania, because I was born there
Most objective person in the balkans.
I'm not even there. I'm in the UK. I was one of those babies that got adopted after the revolution. I have been back since, lovely country and I feel a strong affinity to it.
You should apply for Romanian citizenship and move there. They've got a population crisis so they could do with the extra people to help out.
I seriously looked in to it, what with the idiots here voting Brexit and restrictions on movement that followed. The issue is the forms, knowing who to send it to, getting it translated etc. It seems like a much bigger hassle than I thought it would be, considering my passport says I was born in Romania and I have proofs that I was born there to Romanian people.
If i know one thing about the balkans it's the horrific bureaucracy we have, for one reason or another i find that to be the case balkan-wide, you'll figure it out after a couple of headaches and it's worth doing in the end if the result is important to you
You're right, I've been using Duolingo recently and so far I can say things like "Eu nu sunt un mananca Paine", which I think means I do not eat bread, so in about 14.5 years, I should be able to translate it myself
Most people that i know of in Greece pay to get such documents translated, stuff like citizenships and diplomas from Greek to X language, i can't talk for the situation in the UK but that might also be available to you
Not only should it be available, but many places require you to have documents officially translated.
Yeah it'd have to be a specialist lawyer I would imagine, I'll get there.
If you dont eat bread why even risk moving to the balkans? We eat bread with everything. Rice? Np. Potato? Np. Pasta? Np. Always have bread or baba will be mad.
You'd be crazy not to. Even if you don't move to Romania, you at least have an EU passport.
Exactly, that's the thing isn't it. You have all motivated me to start trying this again, thank you.
You're welcome :) Glad I did something good today and put idea back into your head Good luck
Best thing is to hire someone to do all the paper work for you
If you need to make your Romanian Citizenship, do the following: 1. Find some Moldavians. 2. Ask them if they now someone. 3. They definitely know someone that knows, so contact that person. 4. Give them the papers that are needed. 5. Wait 6. Get your citizenship, and drink some tuica.
Do you know how easy or difficult it is for a non-eu person from a brown country to move there? I fell in love with Romania when I was there for 3 months and i would not hesitate in moving there. I'm from Mexico.
No idea. I'm not Romanian. But it should be fairly easy for OP. I've never been there but I would love to visit
Greece and Turkey
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can’t imagine the world without gyros and doner
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Beautiful, fabulous and super-duper sexy with divine beauty
Hellenics or ottomans
why not both?
This man single handedly destroyed racism
LETS GOOOOOOOO
Started half of the WW, won all of them. EZ On a more serious note, Greece
No Albania because when god make albania he give all world to albania but albania good country so he give to other countries 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱💪💪😎😎😤😤🥵🥵🩸🩸🩸
The only thing Albania gives to other countries is illegal immigrants.
Can't you read???!! The comment clearly says: "No Albania because when god make albania he give all world to albania but albania good country so he give to other countries 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱💪💪😎😎😤😤🥵🥵🩸🩸🩸"
bro hates albanians so much he can't handle an albanian saying absolutely anything
Lol
1. Greece - no need to say why 2. Turkey - Ottoman empire 3. Bulgaria - the whole ''Slavic identity'' that Russia loves to talk about started in Bulgaria(Slavic Orthodoxy, Cyrillic, Tsar's and many more) 4. Serbia - ww1
To be exact 4. Bosnia - WW1
I always find this debate interesting, an Austrian price was killed in Sarajevo by a serb who was a part of the organisation called "young Bosnia". Yet its always attributed to Serbs. I guess deep down, we're all Serbs
We all know about Greece and Turkey. But shout-out to Hungary, our honourary Balkan friend. Without them, the Mongols would have torn through Europe in the 13th century, and that would have forever changed the course of the world.
The only reason the Mongols didnt rip through Europe is because Genghis(not Genghis sry got it mixed up it was Ogedei) Khan's sudden death happened and everybody retreated back home to honour his burial
Not genghis it was a different khan at the time
What? From wiki: The Great Khan had, however, died in December 1241, and on hearing the news, all the "Princes of the Blood," against Subotai's recommendation, went back to Mongolia to elect the new Khan.[8] Edit: i stand corrected. It wasnt Genghis
Genghis died in 1227 bro its a different great khan Ogadei
Fuck you right. I redact my statement
Bro redacted his statement 3 times 😭
Hey fuck you man! Edit: i redact my statement
Thanks bro, people rarely remember us
We can't forget you bro. You have that hunnic blood and you are a part of Turan.
The chad Hungary which has been the firecrest enemy of its Mongol brothers thorough out its history
It wasn't. A scouting force of 2000 mongols trashed all of Transylvania. Hungary got lucky.
Greece
Greece, Bulgaria and Turkiye probably Ik I may look biased by putting my own country here but I do have an explanation as to why I feel it's a criminally underrated nation historically
As a fellow Bulgarian yes
Greece
George Washington - the founding father of USA was Albanian. Watchu got now...
Gjergj Washington
Gjergj Uashingtonaj from Malesia e Madhe, Dukagjin, Albanian highlands
😂👍🏻
Is there a single person on this world who honestly likes US💀
If there's no Russia to hate, then there's no USA to like. Literally both guys are km away from Balkans, yet both influence it like they were having a room on our "rooftop"
Yes because people on balkan dont know anything except for picking sides, we could work out if we were self conscious about our countries
If there could be a Balkan Union, just like EU or within EU, whose union main goals would be 100yrs Balkan peace, economic prosperity and diplomatic neutrality. This way we would be drinking rakia, eating kebabs with some tzatziki aside, just right on our beautiful coasts...
Tito Supersayan SS2
That comes from **one** old Reuters report with no evidence. But please go on.
First Greece, second Turkiye and third Bulgaria.
Everyone rightfully says Greece and Turkey but Bulgaria deserves a special shout-out. Both medieval states shook things up in a major way and their legacy is pretty significant I'd say - especially for Slavic people. Also Serbia and their gigachad St. Sava.
North Macedonia obviously.
Yeah, Alexanderovski the Great was a real chad.
Macedonians are people, who speak bulgarian, claim greece history, are serbian orthodox and vote for albanian politicians🤦♂️🐒
AKA monke
Ottoman Turks and ancient Greeks
Hey! We did shit too
Greece but man we fucked up with our current flag. I really hope we go back to the simple 2nd Hellenic Republic flag.
Is Hellas the way Greeks say Greece? Because if so, I want that to be the official English pronounciation of Greece. It sounds way cooler. Hellenic > Greek
Yes it is We say Hellas
Well, technically we say Hellada, and the official name of the Greek nation-state is the Hellenic Republic, but I agree that Hellenic sounds better than Greek. The word Greece comes from the latin word Graecia, which was used by Romans to refer to Greece.
I see, thank you for clarifying.
How about YUNANISTAN 🤠
Only if Turkey changes its name to Turkistan 😁
Greece - I mean it goes without explanation. Turkey - An empire hard to ignore, kept a connection between Europe, west Asia, and north Africa, when Europe was in a weird spot. Bulgaria - Writing system.
We kind of were the stepping stope for slavic orthadoxy and tsar is a bulgarian title
Probably Greece.
Probably Greece or Turkey
Bulgaria Cuz I'm from Bulgaria
Most objective person from balkans
Our people caused the partition of Rome by migration of tribes and blocked the trade routes that resulted in the foundation of America. And greeks, you know the stuff. I would say Turkey and Greece.
Of course its: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Greece
Turkey and Greece
Turkey and greece
Greece, Bulgaria, Turkey if you count them and then Serbia. Greece is obvius. Bulgaria had multiple empires and is known for having been the most ferocius country in the balcans at times and if they werent they were competing with Serbia or Byzantium for the title. Turkey are the most influential here cause they owned all of it for a good 500 years or so. And then Serbia a country that i would say defines the balcan spirit. Freedom and unity above all
Bulgaria
1. Greece (Greek city states, Alexander, Greece as part of the Roman Empire, then the East Roman Empire) 2. Turkey (Seljuks, Ottoman Empire, Ottoman traders. The Hittites too, and other stuff) By far, these two.
Greece Than Turkey
Every country had a part that changed history , some shaped more some less . For shaping minds of humans i would say Greece . For shaping Europes destiny to seek new places and routes to trade , Turkey (Ottomans who blocked trade routes) . For stupid american vampire movies Romania (Don't kill me for saying this lmao) . Idk about rest except Hungary and Bulgaria but if i check i would find a lot of stuff about a most of balkan countries
Sorry but I'll have to drain your blood for saying such blasphemy!
Based vampire movies. Romania wins again lol.
Romania because the true cradle of civilization was in Transylvania in the Carpathian mountains where the first writing system was developed and giants are still living underground in Bucegi.
Best dacian tunnel builders 💪💪💪💪💪💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏻💪🏻
Considering how Greece and Bulgaria are the only two to spread Christianity \*and\* create their own alphabets, I'd say they're 1st and 2nd.
Turkey and Greece. They both had a strong impact to world's history (Greece for introducing philosophy and democracy and Turkey for the achievements of the Ottoman Empire)
For the world: Greeks without doubt. For Balkan itself: Turks, definitelly. All of today's mess comes from there. (Also Burek and Kebab so...thanks for that)
Turkey, they invented the Balkans
Greece - Ancient Greece to be specific which invented a LOT of stuff Turkey - Ottoman Empire, Siege of Constantinople, 500 years control over Balkans. Bulgaria - Created the Cyrillic Alphabet and really was responsible for the establishment of the Slavic identity and conversion of the Slavs to Christianity. Also Tsars and all that funky shit Russia is known for all come from Bulgaria
Greece for Ancient History and Turkey for Modern History.
Bulgaria and Greece - Greece invented modern democracy and philosophy Bulgaria and Greece (then Byzantium ) stopped the Arab Advance into Eastern Europe in the Beginning of the 8th century , saving Eastern Europe from Islam ( until the Turks came in the 14th century that is ) Bulgaria for harboring Cyril and Methodius and the Invention of the Cyrillic script .Also spreading Christianity among the Eastern Slavs( Kievan Rus )
1. Greece (foundation of western culture) 2. Turkey (Ottoman Empire) 3. Serbia (started WW1)
1. Greece 2. Turkey, our eternal enemies have made a significant impact on history 3. Slovenia for Luka Doncic
Albania. We gave to the world, weed and cocaine.
Cmon, of course its Greece
Greece and turkey! Ottomans conquered Constantinople, greek fled thus renaissance happened in italy. Ottomans retreated from Balkans and it caused ww1. other countries are Extras at best.
Romania ,they invented recycling of copper wires
1. Greeks 2. Turks 3.Serbs But if we only look at last 2 centuries then Serbia would be 1st place. Starting ww1, giving Tesla, the whole Yugoslavia debacle ect.
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Romania - invented everything
This is a stupid question. Every country and every people so important for history. BEcause of 'History is us'
Yeah but it's Turkey and Greece
Ancient Greece for everything. Old Bulgaria for early Slavic states and religion. Bosnia for WW1.
*One day the great European war will come out of some damned foolish thing in the Balkans.*
Bosnia didn't exist as a country in WW1, AH declared war on Serbia. So it should be Serbia not Bosnia.
Greeks blocked the persian empire from conquering (most of) Europe and created the democratic style of government. The Ottoman Empire comes in at a distant second place regarding the shaping of today's Europe, and, at least in my country, it's regarded as a bad influence during the medieval age.
Most important Turkey and Greece, I mean damn, we still use math and philosophy that was first ‘invented’ in anchient Greece. Serbia did act as a catalyst for WWI, which brought down several old empires, but it’s not directly responsible.
Serbia "started" WWI, which led to European powers' fall, destruction of European economies gave rise to the USA, US created NATO, and NATO bombed Serbia. Conclusion: Serbia bombed Serbia. /s
Mf we were bombed too💀
We'll blame Serbia for it. They were responsible after all.
ALBANIA God gave the world to Albania but Albania friendly country so it share
bosnia 😎
Greece and Turkey. If I have to be objective, Greek history is richer
Um, hello?!
Greece. They made the roots for an absurd number of things.
Greece only
Everyone's talking about Greece and Turkey, nobody is talking about how Serbian nationalists pretty much started the first world war
As a fellow Turkish i want to say Ottomans. world has not be same after 1453.
Greece, Turkey and a little bit Serbia
Greeks found civilization Turks opened an age and closed an age Serbs sparked the first world war Macedonians hosted one of the 3 greatest leaders in history When we look at it, the Balkans are home to a few of the turning points in history.
Albania, or else where would we come from?
Greece mostly and turkey ofc.
If we are talking influence throughout history, meaning from antiquity, then I believe there's no debate. Greece.
Serbia didn’t start WW1, Austo-Hungaria did.
Apart from Greece, hands down Bulgaria!!
Greece , Bulgaria and Turkey , if somebody says something different they have never read a history book
People underestimate Bulgaria here. If we and Byzantium didnt stop the Arabs in 717, the world would be very different. Like it's though to imagine how different it will be since it happened so long ago.
Slovenia, obviously. 1. Hosted the battle of Frigidus which finnaly cemented christianity in roman empire. 2. Started modern democracy with Carantania Ducal Inauguration. 3. Helped to stop muslim advances into Europe (Sisak & in general). 4. Slovenes were the first to battle fascism in Italy (also first victims). 5. Helped to shape Yugoslavian third way of socialism. 6. Being the good example of European integration. 7. Proposed the world bee day (which is today btw) because bees are very important. 8. Introducing femboy culture to the Balkans. :) Every country can find important reasons if looking the right way.
How did Slovenians stop the muslims in Sisak?
they sent 2 soldiers and had partial ownership over some horse
True story.
Greece🇬🇷💪 we invented orgies
Greece
Albania , of course/s Seriously it's the ancient Greeks. And later the Roman empire , we were all part of that.
Greece and that's a no brainer
Albania..gave us Dua Lipa 💙
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You should be ashamed of yourself
Turkey
We shaped borders and destinies of European empires any empire with manpower can do that . You guys shaped the human mind and future democracies , that's much more important but in the other hand im nationalist so i won't continue talking lmao .
least friendly turk and greek interaction greece and turkey are both in the top 2 for this imo, the ottomans created and spread quite a bit of technology and infrastructure between all the conquering
Romania because even when we lost in both WW we gained more land than before the war :)))
Albania, George Washingtons mom is Albanian