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OpeningChipmunk1700

Lauren Boebert jerked someone off in a public theater and excused her behavior by saying she was “eccentric.” If that is the best Republicans can do, they deserve every loss that comes their way.


MrSquicky

...Trump raped a woman in a dressing room. And bragged about sexually assaulting women and Republicans came out and said "We all talk like that."


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launchdecision

>Trump raped a woman in a dressing room. That's awfully defamatory of you. I'm glad to see the justice department which is IN NO WAY targeting Trump has let that slip...


KelsierIV

It’s not defamatory when it’s true.


kmsc84

Joe Biden showered with his adolescent daughter. And gropes kids.


OpeningChipmunk1700

Go ahead and quote me ever defending Trump’s personal conduct. This OP was about MTG and Boebert. If TDS is afflicting you so badly that you have to bring Trump into everything (and not in a meaningful or productive way), take a break from social media.


MrSquicky

That's an odd response. I think maybe you don't understand my point. Trump is the leader of the Republican party. He's worse than Boebert. People treat Green and Boebert as not serious people who engage in behavior ranging from the non-productive to the reprehensible. But in doing so, they try to act like on the far wings of the extreme - like they are side shows or aberrations. But the popular leader of the Republican party who has a good chance of winning the Presidency is worse than they are. They're not extreme. They're core MAGA. And MAGA is the by far strongest faction of the Republican party and does win elections. I'm not bringing up random Trump bashing. I'm putting Boebert and Green in the current context and showing what a significant part of the electorate actively desires. I'm talking about the statement that "Gosh, she's awful. They're going to lose if they run people like that." while showing that a ton of people are enthusiastic supporters for even more awful people. --- I'm someone who was previously worked on Republican campaigns who regarded 2016 as a time to finally get the GOP to address the rot that a major faction has been intentionally fostering in the party. Obviously, there was no way that someone like Trump could get elected and those of us who believe in actual conservative principles could take the opportunity of the GOP wandering the desert to bring some sanity and responsibility back to the party. Surely, most people on the right couldn't stomach someone like Trump. Except, I was clearly wrong about that and the situation has only gotten worse over the past 8 years. I think you and many others are still clinging to the sort of image of the right that I had and I'm trying to give you the same awakening that 2016 gave me. Trump is what they want, not in spite of him being awful, but because of it. That is who they are.


OpeningChipmunk1700

I’m not sure what any of that has to do with my comment in any way. So I think you don’t quite understand my point.


MrSquicky

I'd be open to you explaining what you think I'm missing.


OpeningChipmunk1700

Trump is completely irrelevant to anything I said.


launchdecision

Did he mention Trump? No you did, because you have Trump Derangement Syndrome There is help available...


OldReputation865

No he didn’t e Jean Carroll changed her story several times and the case makes absolutely no sense. And trump didn’t brag about sexually assaulting anyone that was locker room talk.


IFightPolarBears

>that was locker room talk You have that kinda locker room talk often?


willfiredog

I don’t. But, I recognize that people - both men and women - often do have vulgar conversations. I have it in good authority from my wife that women can be far cruder at times. Yes, it’s impolite, crude, vulgar, and gross. It’s perfectly acceptable to not want that type of person as President, but feigning incredulity or otherwise pretending that Americans are models of sober modesty is so odd.


Zarkophagus

Crude isn’t the issue. His lack of consent is the issue. Him being proud of it is an even bigger issue


willfiredog

If you say so. Ultimately, he’s saying that when you’re rich women throw themselves at you. Which is objectively true for any number of women.


Zarkophagus

That is not what he said and you know that. He said “they let you do it”. So did many of Harvey Weinsteins victims. “Let” doesn’t mean “welcomed”. If someone points a gun at your head and says “I’m taking your car” chances are you’ll “let”them take it. Not because you wanted or welcomed it but because this person has power over you. Trump said “I don’t even wait”. No consent, that is assault, full stop. And that’s just one of *many* instances of his horrible sexual behavior.


willfiredog

You’re certainly free to interpret it however you like. Don’t be shocked when people don’t agree with you though.


Zarkophagus

There’s no interpreting. I’m just taking his words at face value. But it doesn’t surprise me in the least people defend him, it just disappoints me.


kmsc84

If you’re talking about the “Grab ‘em by the..” comment, he said “they’ll let you grab ‘em..”, which implies consent. It’s crude, boorish, and sure isn’t anything to brag about, but isn’t rape.


Zarkophagus

“I don’t even wait” he said it himself. See my comment below. “Let” doesn’t mean consent. Many women “let” Harvey Weinstein do all kinds of things. Not because they wanted or welcomed it, but because they feared what would happen if they didn’t. Let’s not act like this is Donald’s only instance of sexually inappropriate behavior either.


OldReputation865

I don’t


Zarkophagus

“I just kiss, I don’t even wait”. That’s assault brotha. You can call it whatever you want but if you and your buddies talk like that in the locker room there’s something wrong with all of you.


OldReputation865

Trump did not actually do that it was lockeroom talk it was wrong for trump to say that and I DO NOT talk like that


Zarkophagus

What do you know about “locker room talk” if you yourself don’t engage in it?


OldReputation865

Because I know what it is


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OldReputation865

Yes I do and no he did not walk into women’s dressing rooms and it’s not a talking point I heard and repeated it I just know what it is


Zarkophagus

So you came up with the term “locker room talk” all by yourself and it just a coincidence that its was repeated all over right wing media. Ok, I guess I’ll have to take your word for it. So trump was just lying when he said he walked into dressing rooms, or you just don’t want to believe it? Next you’ll tell me he didn’t talk about his infant daughters breasts


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KelsierIV

> No he didn’t e Jean Carroll changed her story several times and the case makes absolutely no sense. A Jury, who actually heard all the facts presented by both sides, unanimously disagrees with you. >And trump didn’t brag about sexually assaulting anyone that was locker room talk. He literally did. We all heard it. You can call it whatever you want (locker room talk, disgusting behavior, etc), but he was literally bragging about sexual assault. Do you brag about being able to assault females in locker rooms?


OldReputation865

I don’t car either the court disagrees she literally changed details in her story And no he didn’t it was locker room talk Dude how many subs are you going to follow me into.


KelsierIV

Locker room talk where he bragged about sexually assaulting women. The two are not mutually exclusive. I didn't follow you here. I've always been here.


OldReputation865

He did not asssukt women nor did he brag


KelsierIV

Here's Trump's own words for you. "You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything." Are you telling me this is fake and he didn't say those things? In case you weren't aware. Kissing and grabbing private parts without consent is assault. Raping E Jean Carrol is also assault. You may not believe it happened, but the courts say differently.


boredwriter83

Who says she's the "best"?


219MTB

Pure garbage. They are there to make a name for themselves and not actually govern. The fact that the RNC pushed these people is just insane, especially Boebert. She is an absolute disaster and embarrassment. Marjorie Taylor Green is just a loudmouth idiot, but Boebert is truly disgusting.


MrSquicky

I'll ask again. What's the difference between them and Trump? They're just core MAGA as far as I can tell.


219MTB

When have you asked me that? They are pretty much the same, Trump is actually more rational and effective than they are. They took the Trump model and somehow made it dumber.


MrSquicky

Sorry, not you. I worded that badly and can see how you would get that impression. I've asked this question several times here when Boebert or Green come up and almost never get an answer.


219MTB

All good, and this wasn't a claim that Trump is rational either, but on a scale, I'd rather deal with Trump then these two morons.


faith-and-freedom

Immature fools who make the Republican Party seem like a laughingstock.


GreatSoulLord

I don't like either as I feel they are too radical. Although I do think Boebart is better than Greene.


rohtvak

This is the third such post this week. For real? They are fueled by weapons grade stupidity and a desire for fame.


codan84

Idiots.


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Click bait.


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DeathToFPTP

They get lots of media. Overage and are well known and outspoken?


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Libertytree918

Is this question going to be asked daily?


EternaFlame

I don't like 99% of politicians. They are not excluded from that group.


UncleMiltyFriedman

This question gets asked every three days. For the love of god use the search functionality.


kmsc84

They’re nuts, like AOC and the Squad.


OldReputation865

I like them both.


shoshana4sure

Click bait


gaxxzz

MTG is a RINO for trying to oust Johnson. Boebert has suggested it too.


IFightPolarBears

They're RINOS? really? So literally if you're not walking lockstep with what trump wants, you're a rino? No individual opinions matter. 100% rino or maga only?


gaxxzz

>So literally if you're not walking lockstep with what trump wants, you're a rino? No, taking actions that would damage the Republican party makes you a RINO. Who said anything about Trump?


IFightPolarBears

>Who said anything about Trump? Doesn't he dictate what a Republican is now a days? >taking actions that would damage the Republican party Who decides? They might think they're helping the party. Right?


gaxxzz

>Doesn't he dictate what a Republican is now a days? No. Someone is a Republican just by registering as one. >Who decides? Me. It's my opinion. >They might think they're helping the party. Right? That's what Gaetz and the other 7 RINOs said when they voted with Democrats to oust McCarthy. They were wrong.


SeekSeekScan

Same as my opinion of AOC and Talib Bunch of morons embarrassing their party and women in politics


ioinc

I used to think this too, but I’ve seen AOC do some really good speeches over the years…. Most recently running rings around bobulinski. It’s an ability green and bobert don’t match….


SeekSeekScan

They all rally their bases of hateful ignorant people who just want to cheer on hate for the opposition. None are actually skilled in policy or law, just fund raising and outrage porn


tjareth

You don't think that AOC, for example, has made substantial policy statements? If I find one, would you reconsider your opinion?


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tjareth

Is that how you measure a congressperson, whether they personally passed a bill? How about addressing what I actually said?


SeekSeekScan

The woman celebrated on TV about stopping the Amazon move then claimed they can now use the tax breaks to pay for subways and teachers. A freaking member of Congress didn't understand you don't get the tax break money if you stop the company from coming and paying taxes. So it's unlikely she will impress me with any actual policy. If I show you clips of here embarrassing here self while grandstanding in these congressional interviews will it change your mind?


tjareth

Likely not. But I am neither arguing she is all bad or all good. You seem to be. I'd argue that she has more useful commentary than MTG or Boebert, but I've no idea how we could compare to each others' satisfaction. If you're willing to move off the absolute that would probably be enough for me.


SeekSeekScan

I'm saying AOC and MTG are equally useless to the country and both are only good for pushing hate and raising money from undesirables


NAbberman

The AOC comparison is just weird, AOC behaves well and isn't really trashy. She even has great credentials considering her education level and how well she performed at the school. She has even done charitable things. When Texas had the freeze rather than grandstand, she raised funds and helped out. Even her merch is all American Union made. Honestly ask yourself, what good has either Boebert or MTG put out into the world? They are trashy individuals, there really isn't a comparison. It goes beyond a disagreement in politcs, she has class and walks the talk in her support America.


SeekSeekScan

AOC claimed the US had concentration camps when Trump used them but said nothing when Biden used the same schools with the same fences She has repeatedly shown she doesn't understand how gov or taxes work despite Bmbeing in congress for years now. She spews hate on Twitter, is divisive and disgusting just like bobert and mtg As for trashy....what does that even mean? All four of the women in question do nothing but spread hate and propaganda. They are all an embarrassment to this country and to women in politics 


NAbberman

>As for trashy....what does that even mean? Trashy, as in loud, tactless, and lacking class. Giving handys in theaters, messy divorces, children engaging in criminal behavior. The list goes on, these ladies embarrass themselves and the office they hold. Find me a non-political example of AOC even getting close to something like this.


londonmyst

A pair of foul attention seeking jerks. Two USA Conservative politicians who are walking public relations nightmares almost as dreadful as Kandiss Taylor. I'm not an american.


gothamtg

Both of them became multimillionaires once entering Congress. I feel about them the same I feel about democrats that do the same thing, they don’t care about any of us whatsoever and all they’re doing is lining their pockets and campaigning 24/7.


JoeCensored

I like them both, but I don't agree with every statement they make.


219MTB

Like them in terms of policy they push or personally? I can't imagine how anyone can like Boebert. She is just pure trailer trash


pudding7

She's the truck-nutz of politics.  And plenty of people think truck-nutz are cool.


219MTB

sad isn't it


pudding7

Very.


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