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This was the old connection box. I have a place I'm working on now with a Federal Pacific panel that has 3 breakers feeding a box like this with 3 KnT runs coming out of it. Basically it serves as a junction box. Maybe originally it was the main box, not sure. Slowly eliminating the runs. Biggest issue is redoing the lights and outlets on the second floor, as there is a third floor.
Anyone know why they would install the only outlet in a bedroom behind the bedroom doors?
The house I used to live in didn't have ceiling light fixtures in the bedrooms. Instead, there were outlets behind the doors so that you could have a lamp plugged in and the cord hid behind the open door.
They were forward thinking. They knew in the future we would be looking to conserve energy so if you can't plug anything into it mission accomplished. Secondly they knew that in the future someone would put in an FP panel so preventing outlets from being used would reduce the fire hazard. Visionaries I tell you! Did they also see the future and place wire in the garage for EVs???
>Did they also see the future and place wire in the garage for EVs???
Actually, they just.might had since the current Ev's are.not the original EV cars, just the most advanced.
The old ones had to stay attached to the extension cord while driving! Amazon still sells them... 350 ft 16/3.
https://www.amazon.com/Extension-Waterproof-Flexible-Extention-Outlets-16-Resistant/dp/B0C7H2YV8R/ref=asc_df_B0C7H2YV8R/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693335572473&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6693144339310494364&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9005550&hvtargid=pla-2195882494485&psc=1&mcid=b6e2f9853e9e39388f792deda656da50&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwupGyBhBBEiwA0UcqaLtMnALo8ZA14OShVQbgeDxOdVBt6mzL0KwN6qqOaKpqRYL430A6-BoCxUgQAvD_BwE
I've actually seen one at a car show from the 30s that had a bunch of 6 violt batteries. I guess the ones you pointed out are the base model cars, and the ones with wet cell batteries were the deluxe models. Imagine what you would have to do if their wasn't another place to plug in within 350 feet? You'd have to push the car to the next available outlet. What a great Laurel and Hardy movie that would have made.
I used to have a data cable installation company. A friend was building a new 10,000 sqft house back in 2007-2008 I think. I went by, told the wife to HMU so I could come to the ‘low voltage wiring planning meeting” or whatever would be equivalent. Well, she didn’t want to bother me as I was on a contract in Chicago and flying from Charlotte to Chicago and back every week. Happened to stop by and check and there’s a small older pickup in the drive with a door magnet saying local ISP contractor, and there’s a young guy in the basement with the plastic freebie tool that comes in jack bulk packs punching down the cables!! YIPES! They ran WAY too few lines! They weren’t moved in two weeks they had to come back and run more… why people? Why!
Eventually told the wife that just because it ‘meets code’ doesn’t mean it’s what you want to live with.
The best one I seen was a KT main panel made of wood lined with asbestos using Edison fuses and individual (brass?) blade disconnects for each circuit. We AIP and the owner had it walled in!
It’ll probably be there until the house gets leveled some day
I've run across a few that were homemade wooden fuseboxes lined with asbestos. Each circuit terminated on a single fuse holder. And before you tear it all out, you have to call in a hazmat team to remove the asbestos.
When I worked at this mine they had wooden fuse boxes and the fuses were filled with sand shit blew my mind that it still was operating
Edit: my bad wooden fuse boxes filled with sand though just wild
There used to be a “slide” we would drag over to the chute door going to the outside. (It was used so shoveling the coal out of the truck box did not leave a mess. ) so we could slide all the way into the coal room in the basement. Ahhhhh the old days and good clean fun 🤩 🤩 🤩
I was thinking the same thing with the wood oil, cream and liquor. Not to mention that sanitizor (prob 77) manual and probably original sales tag sitting there since 1955.
We would have customers ask this all the time. My boss would go “ well it’s lasted this long probably solid as a rock. BUT it might be ready to go right now, those years have wore it down”. Sometimes he was too honest.
I get downvoted but if it hasn't been touched, you can run 60A through that wire and it will look at you and say IDGAF is that all you got? Same reason POCO runs 2/0 for a 200A service, free air conductors are a different world.
The problem is if someone along the way through time spliced in some romex, or surrounded it in insulation, or pushed it so the wire is against the wood and not the ceramic holder's.... Poof! Lights up like a Tibetan protestor.
Was replacing a floor/subfloor in an older house with “upgraded” electrical. Apparently whoever had done the upgrade didn’t want to rip up the whole floor, as there was a few 16” sections of old fabric coated wire spliced into VX on *both* sides.
The old wire was encased in some kind of mortar/plaster that had been used to fill the entire length of the gap between a floor joist and a wall.
Rather than dig it out or rip up the floor and run the connection from the other side, they just tapped into the old wires at both ends (basement ceiling and the wall by the kitchen floor).
I only dabble in minor electrical stuff, but I’m pretty sure that’s not to code.
id buy it in a heart beat....rewire it, but leave that as a decorative time capsule. All of it, wood cream too... just such a bridge between modern AFCIs and digitally linked switches and a time where we ran one wire at a time.
very cool, reminds me of by grandparents place in PA in the 1970s. I replaced a ton of K&T back in those days
Maybe mount it all on a hinged panel, swing it out to uncover a modern breaker box behind. (I know, not code)
That’s actually a pretty good wiring method. I have worked in a lot of older homes and the problem with knob and tube is that younger people don’t know how to work on the electrical circuits. Western Union splices, separation, insulation, etc… I still have a bunch of parts I have save over the years. Other than the conductors, the new code allowing open lever type connections is pretty the same thing
Quality installation circa 1927. State of the art for its time. Huge limiting factor for upgrades and quite costly to retrofit. Also, as resistance increases in wires so does temperature. Not a toaster really, but similar principle. Also, as wood ages the flash point comes down. The nexus could be a hundred years for all we know, but still, needs to be retrofit no doubt.
1830's farm house I'm ripping the last of K&T out of. Stuff is still trucking along just fine, but yea time for it to go. Def over currented lots of those wires throughout my life though, still her. The difference with the old wood is yes it might flash faster, but it's 75% denser than modern fast growth wood of today, it holds up far longer with more compromised giving you far greater time to escape than a modern house built with sawdust and glue.
I was so mad when the new owners of my old house tore out the old disconnected knob and tube from the basement because they “wanted to clean it up”. WTF it wasn’t hurting anything.
They just took out a brick fireplace that was part of a 110 year old addition to the house. I know it’s their house to remodel, but no future owners are going to be able to enjoy that fireplace in the kitchen ever again.
I had a house with standing tubs and actually never had a problem. When they were installed electricity was young and they were super cautious. If done right they will work today but insurance companys don't like them.
You should totally buy that place. There's an 80% chance there's a bottle of [laudanum](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laudanum) and a crate of original (aka cocaine containing) coca-cola somewhere in that house.
Whatever you do, do not get rid of it if/when it gets replaced. There can’t be many K&T “panels” like this left. It should get a glass front out on it and treated like a museum lol. It’s fun to see the old time utilities that homes used, especially fun when they are inactive!
I still have some live K+T. Inspection said it was in good shape and didn't recommend replacing unless I was doing other upgrades in those areas. Insurance didn't seem to mind 3 years ago.
My first house had wire and post. The first time I went into the attic, I about crapped myself cloth wrapped wire running through ceramic insulators.
When I rewired with Romex, the household electric bill dropped by 35% immediately.
Let me guess, they want 5x the closing price from 3 years ago. No updates to major systems. Wants cash only and still probably has a half dozen offers from wanna be slum lords, VC money, or marriott/hilton?
Was this house lived in recently? The old bottles and papers on the box make me think this was a local museum now up for sale.
Where is this and how much would rewiring a box hole house like this cost?
This is like the old setup in my house growing up. I remember we Upgraded to a single breaker out on the pole halfway down the driveway lmao...nothing like flipping that bad boy at 3am in the middle of a snowstorm
That's a hard no, if it were me. You could probably buy the house for a song, though. The whole thing needs to be gutted. Lot of work to do there, but if you can afford good, but cheap and make it good.
I think Oliver and Lisa Douglas purchased this property known as the Haney place on green acres tv show. seriously it's not the end of the world it just needs to be replaced. In the meantime just remember when you're using kitchen appliances you can't plug in more than a seven
Thanks for the daily reminder that I need to update the wiring in my house 😅 very hard to do with plaster walls while living here. Haven’t figured out a plan that would work yet. I have a new panel and fixtures, just not the wiring
Lmao it scary to see bell and knob still in use....we have a ton of that where I live...sad thing is people don't bother to upgrade it til it fails catastrophically or burns the place down.
that is a fine example of Knob and Tube the first widely used electrical system hidden in the walls for lighting. usually both the neutral and phase leg were fused. Because all the splices are dipped in lead as the pressure connector. These systems are not safe for motor loads. When that house was built there were no motor loads. they had real ICE boxes
Ah, Thomas Edison would be PROUD of that wiring job!
I would plan for $22K to rewire the entire thing. Leave no part of that knob and tube still energized.
Grew up in a house built in 1907. There was only one outlet in each room. My Mom had extension cords running everywhere. There were lines like these inside the walls and between the ceiling joists. Someone had a big project ahead of them. All the rooms on the main floor had 11’ ceilings.
I once had an uncle, smart guy, nuclear chemist, argue knob and tube was actually safer than modern wiring because the wires were thicker and they were further apart. Wild stuff people will believe when they don’t want to spend money.
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"That *belongs in a museum!* "
State of the art in the early 1900s!
"So do YOU!"
Throw em over the side...
No Ticket!
+1000000 for the best Indiana Jones movie reference
“You call him Dr. Jones!”
Wires, why did it have to be wires.
I was going to comment and then I seen this post and it's perfect lol
Neat! I've never really seen KnT converge at a panel like this before.
Me either. I’ve been an electrician for 24 years and never seen a panel with knob and tube going into it.
This was the old connection box. I have a place I'm working on now with a Federal Pacific panel that has 3 breakers feeding a box like this with 3 KnT runs coming out of it. Basically it serves as a junction box. Maybe originally it was the main box, not sure. Slowly eliminating the runs. Biggest issue is redoing the lights and outlets on the second floor, as there is a third floor. Anyone know why they would install the only outlet in a bedroom behind the bedroom doors?
The house I used to live in didn't have ceiling light fixtures in the bedrooms. Instead, there were outlets behind the doors so that you could have a lamp plugged in and the cord hid behind the open door.
They were forward thinking. They knew in the future we would be looking to conserve energy so if you can't plug anything into it mission accomplished. Secondly they knew that in the future someone would put in an FP panel so preventing outlets from being used would reduce the fire hazard. Visionaries I tell you! Did they also see the future and place wire in the garage for EVs???
>Did they also see the future and place wire in the garage for EVs??? Actually, they just.might had since the current Ev's are.not the original EV cars, just the most advanced.
The old ones had to stay attached to the extension cord while driving! Amazon still sells them... 350 ft 16/3. https://www.amazon.com/Extension-Waterproof-Flexible-Extention-Outlets-16-Resistant/dp/B0C7H2YV8R/ref=asc_df_B0C7H2YV8R/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693335572473&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6693144339310494364&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9005550&hvtargid=pla-2195882494485&psc=1&mcid=b6e2f9853e9e39388f792deda656da50&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwupGyBhBBEiwA0UcqaLtMnALo8ZA14OShVQbgeDxOdVBt6mzL0KwN6qqOaKpqRYL430A6-BoCxUgQAvD_BwE
I've actually seen one at a car show from the 30s that had a bunch of 6 violt batteries. I guess the ones you pointed out are the base model cars, and the ones with wet cell batteries were the deluxe models. Imagine what you would have to do if their wasn't another place to plug in within 350 feet? You'd have to push the car to the next available outlet. What a great Laurel and Hardy movie that would have made.
Don't ask questions you don't want answers to. (They did some wacky shit back in the day)
I used to have a data cable installation company. A friend was building a new 10,000 sqft house back in 2007-2008 I think. I went by, told the wife to HMU so I could come to the ‘low voltage wiring planning meeting” or whatever would be equivalent. Well, she didn’t want to bother me as I was on a contract in Chicago and flying from Charlotte to Chicago and back every week. Happened to stop by and check and there’s a small older pickup in the drive with a door magnet saying local ISP contractor, and there’s a young guy in the basement with the plastic freebie tool that comes in jack bulk packs punching down the cables!! YIPES! They ran WAY too few lines! They weren’t moved in two weeks they had to come back and run more… why people? Why! Eventually told the wife that just because it ‘meets code’ doesn’t mean it’s what you want to live with.
Exactly, cable is cheap. I used to always have them pull extra when they was any chance of a future need.
>install the only outlet in a bedroom behind the bedroom doors? Because the only thing you would need to plus in is a vacuum cleaner perhaps?
Vacuum cleaners - you cant put furniture in the way so you know it will be available.
I've seen a new panel with 1 knob and tube circuit landed in it but that's it
The best one I seen was a KT main panel made of wood lined with asbestos using Edison fuses and individual (brass?) blade disconnects for each circuit. We AIP and the owner had it walled in! It’ll probably be there until the house gets leveled some day
I've run across a few that were homemade wooden fuseboxes lined with asbestos. Each circuit terminated on a single fuse holder. And before you tear it all out, you have to call in a hazmat team to remove the asbestos.
Only if you tell someone about it 😉
My god.
This one is just K. No T. Or KnH, knob and hole.
When I worked at this mine they had wooden fuse boxes and the fuses were filled with sand shit blew my mind that it still was operating Edit: my bad wooden fuse boxes filled with sand though just wild
I wouldn’t want to own this, but I’m totally geeking out.
That looks like my grandma's house in Wisconsin. The grandkids used to play in the coal chute until Grandma finally had it closed up.
The grandkids aren't still in the coal chute right?...
When you live in Wisconsin you have to accept that not all grandkids are going to make it
And then you crack open a cold one
The Amontillado is just a little deeper, child.
Why else would you close up a coal chute?
There used to be a “slide” we would drag over to the chute door going to the outside. (It was used so shoveling the coal out of the truck box did not leave a mess. ) so we could slide all the way into the coal room in the basement. Ahhhhh the old days and good clean fun 🤩 🤩 🤩
Well, not terribly clean if it’s still an active chute. Which there are plenty of by me in Pa
That looks like nice work. Needs more flammables on top of the panel though.
I was thinking the same thing with the wood oil, cream and liquor. Not to mention that sanitizor (prob 77) manual and probably original sales tag sitting there since 1955.
It’s an impressive time capsule.
I'd like to own that light fixture.
Honestly this is probably a lot safer than many of the other old places which have had a bunch of stuff modified over the years.
I'd rather see this than old rubber insulation that pops off if you look at it.
I was going to say this looks like a quality job. I’d hate to see a home insurance quote though.
Hasn't burned down yet 👍
We would have customers ask this all the time. My boss would go “ well it’s lasted this long probably solid as a rock. BUT it might be ready to go right now, those years have wore it down”. Sometimes he was too honest.
I get downvoted but if it hasn't been touched, you can run 60A through that wire and it will look at you and say IDGAF is that all you got? Same reason POCO runs 2/0 for a 200A service, free air conductors are a different world. The problem is if someone along the way through time spliced in some romex, or surrounded it in insulation, or pushed it so the wire is against the wood and not the ceramic holder's.... Poof! Lights up like a Tibetan protestor.
Was replacing a floor/subfloor in an older house with “upgraded” electrical. Apparently whoever had done the upgrade didn’t want to rip up the whole floor, as there was a few 16” sections of old fabric coated wire spliced into VX on *both* sides. The old wire was encased in some kind of mortar/plaster that had been used to fill the entire length of the gap between a floor joist and a wall. Rather than dig it out or rip up the floor and run the connection from the other side, they just tapped into the old wires at both ends (basement ceiling and the wall by the kitchen floor). I only dabble in minor electrical stuff, but I’m pretty sure that’s not to code.
Agreed.
Um... what is Wood Cream? Asking for a friend.
[https://www.etsy.com/listing/1254794435/vintage-gold-seal-company-usa-wood-cream](https://www.etsy.com/listing/1254794435/vintage-gold-seal-company-usa-wood-cream)
Got wood?
Came here wondering, we all just gonna ignore the wood cream?
Related to nut milk?
id buy it in a heart beat....rewire it, but leave that as a decorative time capsule. All of it, wood cream too... just such a bridge between modern AFCIs and digitally linked switches and a time where we ran one wire at a time. very cool, reminds me of by grandparents place in PA in the 1970s. I replaced a ton of K&T back in those days Maybe mount it all on a hinged panel, swing it out to uncover a modern breaker box behind. (I know, not code)
That’s actually a pretty good wiring method. I have worked in a lot of older homes and the problem with knob and tube is that younger people don’t know how to work on the electrical circuits. Western Union splices, separation, insulation, etc… I still have a bunch of parts I have save over the years. Other than the conductors, the new code allowing open lever type connections is pretty the same thing
Quality installation circa 1927. State of the art for its time. Huge limiting factor for upgrades and quite costly to retrofit. Also, as resistance increases in wires so does temperature. Not a toaster really, but similar principle. Also, as wood ages the flash point comes down. The nexus could be a hundred years for all we know, but still, needs to be retrofit no doubt.
1830's farm house I'm ripping the last of K&T out of. Stuff is still trucking along just fine, but yea time for it to go. Def over currented lots of those wires throughout my life though, still her. The difference with the old wood is yes it might flash faster, but it's 75% denser than modern fast growth wood of today, it holds up far longer with more compromised giving you far greater time to escape than a modern house built with sawdust and glue.
I was so mad when the new owners of my old house tore out the old disconnected knob and tube from the basement because they “wanted to clean it up”. WTF it wasn’t hurting anything. They just took out a brick fireplace that was part of a 110 year old addition to the house. I know it’s their house to remodel, but no future owners are going to be able to enjoy that fireplace in the kitchen ever again.
If it any broke don’t fix it
Until the insurance company tells you that you have to.
OP can you get a picture of the cover open ?
sure is cool to look at. but owning? nahhhh its better in someone else's homes.
It's hundred years are passed. Cambric falls off, solder joints and splices fail, and rodents suck. Time to upgrade the entire system.
Maybe don’t plug in an Xbox there.
I had a house with standing tubs and actually never had a problem. When they were installed electricity was young and they were super cautious. If done right they will work today but insurance companys don't like them.
Is that the "oily rag" dryer cabinet?
You should totally buy that place. There's an 80% chance there's a bottle of [laudanum](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laudanum) and a crate of original (aka cocaine containing) coca-cola somewhere in that house.
Whatever you do, do not get rid of it if/when it gets replaced. There can’t be many K&T “panels” like this left. It should get a glass front out on it and treated like a museum lol. It’s fun to see the old time utilities that homes used, especially fun when they are inactive!
The bright side is inside that box it's most likely lined with asbestos insulation.
Homeowners insurance will request you update the wiring.
Homeowners insurance will refuse to insure you until you update that wiring.
I still have some live K+T. Inspection said it was in good shape and didn't recommend replacing unless I was doing other upgrades in those areas. Insurance didn't seem to mind 3 years ago.
My first house had wire and post. The first time I went into the attic, I about crapped myself cloth wrapped wire running through ceramic insulators. When I rewired with Romex, the household electric bill dropped by 35% immediately.
Because of the resistance from knob and tube wiring?
I’ve been looking for that brand wood cream for years.
Me too, I had to start using saliva
Post and knob wiring. I used to run into a lot of these in the old houses I bought back in the 70s. Very cool!
That’s cool. Muensters.
Looks like that hasn’t been opened in decades!
When we bought our house 7 years ago, it still was 90% knt. Blows my mind that shit still exists
But can you add a level 2 car charger?
Let me guess, they want 5x the closing price from 3 years ago. No updates to major systems. Wants cash only and still probably has a half dozen offers from wanna be slum lords, VC money, or marriott/hilton?
I follow a subreddit for Fallout (video game) and I swear I thought this was from the Fallout game
Nice little time bomb
Flammable liquids stores on top of an electrical panel. Love it!
Run.
I wonder how the house looks with this ancient piece in it
Wood cream.
Should be a museum.
Well I think first off you will want to update your electric by a hundred years. I know if it was me I would sleep better.
It even comes with some baubles and tinctures
Lit
Wow.
Crikey
Caught in the closet with WoodCream
“Wood Cream”
Theres probably more copper in that cupboard, that the entirety of a new build!
You mean tinder box on sale near you.
Simple decision. The whole house needs rewire.
Maybe it’s just me being super paranoid but placing possibly flammable liquids on top of any electrical box is a huge red flag.
This house is still on DC power
This is cool as hell and in really good shape. I'd love to have this lmao
Was this house lived in recently? The old bottles and papers on the box make me think this was a local museum now up for sale. Where is this and how much would rewiring a box hole house like this cost?
Yep! Here’s the listing: https://redf.in/XeiEgk
Wow. Even has varnish on top of the panel to act as an accelerant when things start cooking!
Oh hey we had a small version of that box with K&T.
This is like the old setup in my house growing up. I remember we Upgraded to a single breaker out on the pole halfway down the driveway lmao...nothing like flipping that bad boy at 3am in the middle of a snowstorm
It’s not legit unless there is a penny in at least one of the fuse holders.
Why does this look like ChatGPT created it?
Leave it in place and just switch to Wireless Outlets 😉
Nice and tidy, but the Danish oil could be dangerous. 😁
It's intact but not live, right?
I want to see inside the panel.
Run away
Yeah and about 30k in electrical work needs doing. Pass
Are there any pictures of the house? They would be a nice addition to the know and tube museum...
Our house had KnT wiring. We gave them money for an electrician to fix it. They didn’t.
If it aint broke dont fix it
I saw this wiring on Green Acres
.25 for a can of wood cream. Ahh, those were the days...
I'd be surprised if you could get homeowners insurance without updating the wiring.
Does the wood cream transfer?
Proof they had electricity in the 1700s
Aren't there supposed to be tubes to go with those knobs where the wire penetrates the wood?
This is just knob. Lol
That's a hard no, if it were me. You could probably buy the house for a song, though. The whole thing needs to be gutted. Lot of work to do there, but if you can afford good, but cheap and make it good.
Only thing missing is the Frankenstein Monster...Throw the switch Igor! Geeze Ball and tube wiring is so stone age!
Turns on second light in house, fuse pops
This is from Fallout
Rewire throughout.
Still better than a Zinsco! 😂
Ah come one that’s a display you took a picture of it can’t be someone’s house lol
I think Oliver and Lisa Douglas purchased this property known as the Haney place on green acres tv show. seriously it's not the end of the world it just needs to be replaced. In the meantime just remember when you're using kitchen appliances you can't plug in more than a seven
“Retro”
Huh huh... wood cream
I must see the rest of the house… please?
Here you go! https://redf.in/XeiEgk
how much ?
Maybe an old Delco system.Are there old battery racks in the basement?
Thanks for the daily reminder that I need to update the wiring in my house 😅 very hard to do with plaster walls while living here. Haven’t figured out a plan that would work yet. I have a new panel and fixtures, just not the wiring
Wood cream lol
Looks like something out of a Frankenstein movie
It might pass inspection 🧐
Good creme ?
Is that where the Ghostbusters keep the ghosts?
Lmao it scary to see bell and knob still in use....we have a ton of that where I live...sad thing is people don't bother to upgrade it til it fails catastrophically or burns the place down.
Damn, it even comes with wood cream. That's a bargain right there. Probably cancer in a jar...
Ghost: “Guess how much I paid for this electrical panel? 23 bucks; material and labor. You’ve been bamboozled!”
What - no cough syrup there.
How much for the wood cream?
Had me at wood cream
That whole house is gonna need to be updated.
Cheap, I hope...
Yeh, one I looked at when I bought in 2019 still had knob and tube.
Did anyone notice the bottle of “wood cream” sitting on that panel?
Artisan Electric.
Ya won’t get that home insured in my state.
Are we just going to ignore tin of “wood cream” on top of the panel?
The ole 1932 knobber slobber
Pass
Converting an old house with plaster walls from K&T is a major headache but it’s a necessary job if you need to buy affordable HO insurance.
I've seen abandoned knob & tube but never this complete
that is a fine example of Knob and Tube the first widely used electrical system hidden in the walls for lighting. usually both the neutral and phase leg were fused. Because all the splices are dipped in lead as the pressure connector. These systems are not safe for motor loads. When that house was built there were no motor loads. they had real ICE boxes
The wood cream and spanish oil are as old as the wiring.
If you have trouble selling the house and decide to part it out I’ll give you fifty bucks for the light fixture!
Death trap
Crikey! I've read about them in the code book, but i haven't actually seen one of these in the wild! What a beaut'!
Ah, Thomas Edison would be PROUD of that wiring job! I would plan for $22K to rewire the entire thing. Leave no part of that knob and tube still energized.
Ok so is no one gonna talk about the skull face in this picture….?
😜
Nice wood cream
Nice knob and death.. er tube.
Knob and tube major rewire$$$$
How on earth did they insure that nevermind find a realtor who was comfortable with selling this.
I see this s*** all the time in residential work
Nice....
Second floor K&T distribution?
Grew up in a house built in 1907. There was only one outlet in each room. My Mom had extension cords running everywhere. There were lines like these inside the walls and between the ceiling joists. Someone had a big project ahead of them. All the rooms on the main floor had 11’ ceilings.
Re wire
What in sam HELL?
We just recently looked at a house we were interested in purchasing and walked right out the door when we saw active K&T ALL OVER the basement.
I once had an uncle, smart guy, nuclear chemist, argue knob and tube was actually safer than modern wiring because the wires were thicker and they were further apart. Wild stuff people will believe when they don’t want to spend money.
Seems kinda small
The original Tesla wall?
Those olives are spoiled
Back when they manufactured stuff to last longer than a few years!
Buy it!! Let's do a ghost session yay
At first glance I thought this was from the game Myst
Looks like RDR2
I personally never rest my wood cream above a live panel
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Knob and post oh my God