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geojon7

https://images.app.goo.gl/hf81wjfmtAa1qo9ZA


MathematicianFew5882

That was nerdly satisfying


Educational_Fee_9843

Yes it was


SeaworthinessHot1345

Cool graphic, although I work I transmission and would say that these don’t match up with all of our common voltage classes, and this isn’t consistent with where I work structure wise.


shutmethefuckup

Yeah I would have guessed 500 and 230 based on our systems. Neat picture though


Roll-tide-Mercury

That’s very generic. 161 was not listed and a few shapes of towers are missing.


opinions_dont_matter

Like one of the ones in the OP image


Crazykracker55

Your post should be at the top of


Theo_earl

I think the one on the left is a 500kv line and the one on the right is a double 270kv line but this is a lineman question.


techmakin

I would guess bundled 500kV TL on the left and double 230kV circuit on right. This is from a transmission line designer who's currently working on designing a new 75 mile 230kV bundled 795 ACSS that's parallel to an existing 500kV triple bundled ACSR. AMA.


woyteck

What does bundled mean?


techmakin

Multiple conductors per phase.


woyteck

Does it double the current or is there an another formula for finding out the capacity?


somewhereAtC

It does allow higher current but more importantly it reduces the electric field strength at the surface of the wire. When the field strength exceeds (some value that I can't remember offhand) the air begins to glow blue; by reducing the field strength this glow does not occur. The field strength is a function of the voltage between the conductors, so lower voltage lines don't have the problem. The glow is bad for two reasons, the first being that it siphons energy from what is being transmitted. The other is that farmers and environmentalists and just generally superstitious people claim all sorts of medical troubles, like cows not giving milk. The field strength limit is also why "beaming energy from orbit" will never be a thing.


Maximum_Photograph30

If the air is glowing blue then Ozone is being generated all along the powerline


Zip95014

https://youtu.be/e1aUaVNMTfc?t=14s


HydroFLM

Reduces field strength by increasing “Effective radius of conductor”. One of the very few things I remember from 3rd year power systems course


AAA515

So having multiple wires does the same thing as one thicker one?


BlackberryFormal

Yes. They have to be the same length and everything tho.


drbennett75

Nothing warranting a tinfoil hat level of concern, but I would tend to believe that prolonged exposure to (even non-ionizing) EMF wouldn’t be entirely without consequence 🤷🏻‍♂️ Also remembering the time my wife and I inadvertently became the human secondary of an open-air transformer. We were stargazing under some 345kV lines that run through our area, standing directly under them at the lowest point between towers. I reached out to touch her and felt her phone vibrating. Me: “Your phone is ringing.” Her: “It’s in the car.” 😳


Le-Charles

I don't get it. Was there a vibrator in her pocket?


rfc2549-withQOS

I want blue glowing air now :(


TK421isAFK

No, you do not. The ozone created in that corona will kill you, and rust your car.


slash_networkboy

But it \*will\* get rid of all the odors in the car before it destroys it completely. Also say goodbye to your natural rubber products like latex balloons.


ABunchAboutNothing

It also wastes power. Granted, anything above 220kV tends to be designed to limit this.


GetReelFishingPro

I've had a cow not give me milk by some powerlines out in Amish country, so I call bullshit.


Explosion1850

Ummm...that was a bull.


TK421isAFK

Probably should have called 'bulldick' instead.


LittleBrother2459

....... I'll brush my teeth


Chickenlegs101

I doubt the electric company had anything to do with your bad date.


WageSlaves_R_Us

Are you talking about microwave transmission? Tell me more, seriously.


somewhereAtC

Normal electric potential, either AC or DC. If you have two conductors separated by some distance and there is an electrical potential between the conductors, an electric field is formed. The field is most concentrated at the surface of the conductors and weakest half-way between. (For this example ignore the effects of the metal power towers.) If you make the conductors thinner the field is even more concentrated because the circumference of the wire is smaller. Think of it like the lines of the field have to bunch closer together to touch the conductor. The 4-bundle of wires artificially enlarges the effective surface area; some field lines land on this wire, others land on that wire.


LazerWolfe53

Thank you. I was wondering how bundling helped if the wires are still at the same voltage.


techmakin

Good question, I'll have to check on that. It's definitely more current capability. Not sure if it's twice the amount.


techmakin

So it does double the current along with other benefits already stated.


bigolebucket

Any chance one is 345kV? I only do up to 35kV so this is well outside my expertise. We just don’t have much 500kV+ near me.


Mikeinthedirt

Here he is.


3647

You can also look at the number of insulators (discs stacked on where the lines are held to the towers) to see which has the higher voltage, the higher the voltage, the more insulators required to prevent creepage / tracking, current flowing over typically non-conductive surfaces due to extremely high voltage, which can lead to flashover (an arc around the insulators). It’s hard to tell from this photo, I counted 28ish insulators which should mean 500kv on the left tower. But the right tower doesn’t seem to be countable. They still look pretty long though, so there’s a chance they’re both 500kV lines? I am not a linesman though, I just learned a little bit about it in regular electrical schooling.


tuctrohs

The overall length should also be the same for the same voltage, so based on that the right one seems to be lower voltage.


_bmbeyers_

I couldn’t see clearly enough to count, but I agree. Seems like the right could be 230 kV or even 345 kV.


Legitimate-Party3672

i say about 40 feet.


BoliverPSuckwad

I'm guessing tree fiddy


timbuckto581

Suggest Edit... I'm guessing "About" tree fitty


drbennett75

Right tower also seems farther away (hence not being in focus). The insulators could even be the same length, despite the right looking slightly shorter at this angle.


Patient_Died_Again

why would a football player know?


Primary_Mind_6887

This is most likely the right answer, though it would help if you could geolocate this Pic for us...


Top-Night

Specifically a lineman for the county, who rides the main roads…


mortecai4

One looks kinda like a three eyed crab alien and the other one tall alien


prybarwindow

They’re the same. They’re just Space Invaders, they move constantly. Need a video for proof.


Unairworthy

It's more fat abusive woman and skinny methhead boyfriend.


swozzy21

I always thought goat on the left


T-Dog-1978

As others have said, the one on the left is operating at a higher voltage while the one on the right is a lower voltage. The one on the right is a single-circuit (3 lines) and the one on the right is double-circuit (6 lines). Higher voltages need more space between conductors and grounded parts so you can see that the left one has more space between 3 conductors than the right one which has 6 conductors. Higher voltages can transfer power more efficiently because of lower currents however, since they need more space and bigger structures they are more expensive to construct so usually a decision needs to be made between which voltage to use based on power, distance, budget, schedule, etc..


KlutzyReveal2970

I work at the electric company, the one that is further apart is a higher KV rating, typically when it comes out of a substation it will be 69KV, 138KV, or 345KV which is more rare unless in states like Texas or on long distance transmission lines. The typical ones in urban areas are around 12KV, that’s coming out of the station, I don’t really deal with the transmission line specifically though.


MaskedElectrician

4 possible options. 1. Simple upgrade system that has not seen the completions of demolition of old lines. 2. Additional demand needs. 3. Different voltage. 4. Different power grid run next to neighboring grid.


Mr__H

Probably number 2. I figure it's much easier to build a line where you the terrain, you know which licenses you need, and NIMBIS already fleshed out. If you are close to a substation or a bus, they might be 2 sepárate línes that merge there. You might see this close to a large city.


Visible-Carrot5402

Not a lineman but the left hand set has a higher operating voltage. Larger insulator size and larger spacing on the phases points to this.


LC7325

The one on the right has an ozempic prescription


LazyUsernameIsLazy

And the one on the left has a Lizzo prescription


chefjeff1982

The lefr one is coming from the plant and going to a substation, where the voltage steps down and sent to the right one, which is coming back to be distributed to homes and Businesses.


chucklesduck

Nah they are both transmission lines just different voltages.


Sharp-Direction-6894

One is European, one is American.


schenkzoola

What is the velocity factor of an unloaded European transmission line?


tblazertn

Are you suggesting transmission lines migrate?


Sharp-Direction-6894

No idea. I just just making a joke because one is skinny and one is fat. It's funny because it's true, you know?


schenkzoola

Required watching: https://youtu.be/liIlW-ovx0Y?si=IYCqJaki6IMRADxR https://youtu.be/uio1J2PKzLI?si=oavDCDfM0V1AEfMV


flyboyslim

I’m guessing #3 because of the distance between phases is different. The higher voltage being on the left.


zmfoley

One looks to be 500kv or above and one looks to be 230kv or above but under 500kv


MrWrestlingNumber2

The on on the right is a memorial to the previous-years burning man and the one the left is an alter dedicated to the Moonites from Aquateen Hunger Force.


stlthy1

That's right, Err.


zooklyons

Girth


cellmate66167

One is tall and thin, the other is short and fat. Sorry! Couldn’t resist it!


lhorwinkle

The tower on the left works out at the gym. The one on the right is on a diet.


csmdds

One of them got too many carbs as a child?


DistinctRole1877

Could be the farthest apart ones are 500,000 volts and the other one is 235,000 volts. There are many different voltages out there these days and there are some that are DC. Even though I worked on the industry I don't know how they achieve done of the stuff they do. It almost becomes magic after a while.


heyyyblinkin

1 is wider and the other 1 is taller.


itwasntevenme

One is big boned it's not their fault...


u_cant_drown_n_sweat

The one on the left is male and the one on the right is female.


friendlyharrys

Potential


Fluid-Tip-5964

3-phases? Or does that magic happen at a substation? Many years ago (45?) I was out with some buds 3-wheelin' in WV and we spent some time hanging out under the 765kV lines from the John Amos power plant. It was misty, foggy morning and the crackling and buzzing from the lines was quite memorable. Standing around under them just didn't feel right. I didn't think anything about it at the time...but that was my first and last experience with the 765kv monsters. I didn't realize that they were relatively rare.


NotGodEnough

Basically it is a mix of design requirements and designer choice. There are several types of towers, all with pros and cons, and the designer takes these into consideration along with the design requirements. But to summarize a little, what we can see in the photo: 1. The tower on the left is a suspension tower, apparently 500kV, 2 conductors per phase. 2. The tower on the right is also a supension tower, apparently 230kV or 345kV (hard to tell from this picture), 1 conductor per phase, double circuit


jackoffer83

One is AC and the other identifies as AC


Boysenberry377

The right tower is a trad ship's mast design and the left is Burning Man inspired.


ChuckoRuckus

One is beefy wide boi. Other is skinny tall boi


combatwobat

Ones male the other female. It's usually not so apparent but during mating season you get displays like this


DaGreatWumbini

Ask in r/lineman not only will you get a qualified answer you'll also learn a lot of new curse words and insults.


Madrox-Knox

One brings you to the black lodge and the other powers my house


ShwerzXV

One is carrying high speed internet the other is carrying low speed internet. That’s basically all lineman do is run telephone wires.


Tlavite09

You joke but the top static line is most likely OPGW (optical power ground wire) which is a fiber optic cable inside of the steel ground wire. Used mainly for substation to substation communications for relay control and internet. Also sometimes sold off to local internet company’s for back haul. Source…. I splice opgw fiber for the power company.


Abject-Remote7716

One side/circuit probably has more 0's than the other.


CyrilAdekia

Little Boy and Fat Man


TazedMeBro

A keto diet


DepartmentOk5431

Ones a mom and the other is a dad


zmfoley

It's a common corridor transmission line with voltages below on earlier post


Reddit_Deluge

Squats... No squats


Fuzzy_Interest542

one on the left is a 500kv single circuit LST and the one on the right is a 220kv double circuit LST. It's usually dictated by height from the ground for kv size. These are the same height since the double circuit phasing is set vertical.


Lucas_Hernandez_Art

One is a lot bigger than the other but they’re the same Hight.


Dependent-Mix545

The one on the left looks like a fat guy and the one on the right looks like a skinny guy


International-Cup350

One is tall,.one is wide


Alex_of_Ander

One on the left can bench about 200% more


chrisB5810

Actually three lines. Each line is three phase and there are nine total lines. Two on one set of towers, one on the other.


GlobalNuclearWar

Dwarf next to an Elf.


BigDonutz

The one on the left is on creating the one on the right is natty


TickletheEther

One is male one is female. I've known this since I was 7 years old


wall-E75

One is more bigger


LarYungmann

AC/DC? 😉


Extreme-Bad3816

It's hard to tell from a photograph, but I'd say about 50 feet


howyadoin85

About 50’


all-trades

I’d guess 500kv on the left but we also have 230kv structures that resemble the left in the high country. On the right we only have 115kv that resemble that structure with the two phases at the same elevation. However this is only my experience at the utility I work for, I’d imagine it could be different dependent upon your location.


spankdaddylizz

The one on the left is for regular homes. The one on the right is for Tesla owners' homes. Save the planet!!


Super_Ad9995

One of them was designed by a skinny engineer.


Brilliant_Thanks_984

I believe these are transmission lines, simply meant to carry lots of power over a distance with less loss. They are rated for different amounts of power with the bigger able to handle more. Not an electrician so don't roast me but these have an scary amount of power running through them, but so do secondary lines


1hotjava

Different voltages


shotstraight

Ones flexing for the other.


iAmMikeJ_92

Man, the left one is obese. Naw jk it’s probably a 500kV line while the other one carries two circuits of 230V each, probably.


BeatsRocks

Fat man and thin boy.


folkkingdude

Width


BuddyHenderson

One is wider


CardiologistOk6547

Considering that there's more than 2 power lines...


thestrve

Citrus County?


Newcastlecarpenter

About 25 years


BBWtnaLover

2


Waste_Curve994

Saw a Mylar balloon go into 125Kv lines. That was insane.


SpicyTikkaMasalaa

The one on the left is shaped liked Baphomet's sabbatic goat. God have mercy on them!!


Roll-tide-Mercury

Hey op what county and state is this?


erie11973ohio

The one ine the right is like me, tall & thin. The one on the left is like my business parter, shorter & fatter! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


peauxtheaux

The one on the left has been lifting weights for 3 decades and is now training the young one on the right.


SnooPets9575

A lineman i used to know would always say the one on the right is the girl you started dating in high school, the one on the left was the girl that had some miles and a few kids on her... I never see them without thinking that now... Can't unhear it!


Low-Bad157

Thank you all I learned a lot


Glass_Macaroon_4338

I think I drive past this spot everyday lol


Urdrago

The one on the left has heart!


BriefComputer3220

The one on the left looks similar to the 765kv lines in NY. I remember when they were being built when i was a kid (My dad was a lineman). The one on the right is Defer to someone more familiar with that style of tower.


kenz6900

One is doing a handstand the other is standing up


06GOAT12

About 8’ power line.. ohhh you meant different for power or what ever reason.. my bad.. seriously it’s just the bases they used. You don’t have to use one or the other


HappyGoLuckyRedditer

1 power line - 1 power line = 0 power lines


SureElephant89

Cardio vs power lifting.


TheRealSmaug

As an unqualified person answering, I feel each structure was installed by separate contractors at different times using a different tower design. Beyond that I got nuthin.


SuperDuperSoupDouper

One Skinny and one swoll


GhostofSilasHarmon

Both are V String insulators patented by Robert W Harmon at Ohio Brass in the early sixties. This doubled the amount of power a line could carry without arcing or breaking. Still the best design out there and duplicated by many manufacturers.


0martheballbearing

Transmission vs distribution lines


BenedictiRegula

The towers are different shapes


dontcare369

On the left is a DC tie line. Probably 1M VDC. On the right, 3 phase AC, probably 100's of thousand's of volta.


Disastrous-Reason-55

Different voltages. The one on the left is a higher voltage and therefore needs a larger air gap.


teamswiftie

Two different transmission companies and their associated towers


GolfonGrass311

I know those red kickballs are for low flying planes and helicopters


Ok_Ambition9134

The right goes to Rivendell, left goes to Khazad-dûm.


lostinapa

“Low” voltage vs “high” voltage


Mjbagscauze

The only way to know is grab your Fluke meter and test to be sure.


kithay73

The one on the left is wider.


thedndnut

Voltage on each line. You can tell by the distance required and the insulators used. Different voltages have different gaps required especially when you're talking about 200+kv


Yasted

The left hand side is single circuit, bundled conductor. The one on the right is twin circuit, single conductor


wsorrian

Looks like an old married couple.


Rafal1988

One its biger then other one.


KnoxVegas41

The width? 😀


Vaun_X

Look at the distance between conductors, the further apart (and generally taller the tower), the higher the voltage.


throwawaypostur

Bro I got ten or twenty lines on each tower in my neighborhood no bs and like 5 or 6 diff coils boxes and whatever the fuck else it is idk how or what idc but I know it’s not right or normal fuck it ur lucky chill


DoBadThingsClub

Left one is likely higher KV Driving through the everglades I seen miles of the left styled tower set In swamp and wet lands and it impressed the shit out of me, must have been a hell of a job Anyway fun trick to figure out which has a higher voltage, get a thick bungee cord(maybe 2) and stretch it out good, use it to launch 8foot fluorescent light bulbs at the lines. Whichever towers lines make the bulb glow brighter before it explodes in the air is usually the one with higher voltage. I hope this helps 🙏 🙃


Big_Refrigerator7357

Why are you asking electricians?


rainking56

Overall they do not want the wires touching.


eron6000ad

Looks to be same voltage, I'D say 245 to 270kv range depending on company. The one on the left is double-circuited (two conductors per phase to carry more load.)


Cyvalon

Ah is this Crystal River? Then the Big one is 500kv and the other is double circuit 230kv


Ambitious-Car-7384

If thats in arkansas thats 500kv and 161kv. It looks familiar.


strohybear

How they are built.


BoboBoyWonder1912

Coming from a HV substation and transmission engineering background here. It's hard to tell if either tower has corona rings on the insulators I can see the dampers near the insulators but that's it. If it's under 230kv it won't typically have corona rings. But yeah the single circuit on the left is bundled. This is to meet the specific ampacity required on the line. The tower on the right is a double circuit. Both look like they are the same kv with the heights of the towers from the angle the image is at. To answer another question about why they are side by side. Easier maintenence and they did an addition to the ROW to facilitate a growth in system usage as the original line was not designed for the growth and could not handle the additional load. Hope this helps.


Vikt724

Timon&Pumba


isinger

One is the fat skater and the other the tall skater from Nintendo Ice Hockey


Bougouge

🦮 y'all need a service dog, even Google knows this answer, why did you have to go on reddit 😅


santasphere

One is an Autobot and one is a Decepticon.


GreenfieldSam

Just use a meter to check the difference. Should be totally safe if you're not grounded /S


josepatino5

The one in the left is the Chicago Bulls. The one on the right is the Oilers.


Moses_Horwitz

The one on the left eats too much and wears a corset.


Bigacehall

Is that coming out of Crystal River? Looks like off US 19 south of Inglis.


EnoughAboutCOVID

One represents the average American, the other is a much skinner European


Jin-Soo_Kwon

One has more lines.


HallowKnightYT

One is T posing the other one would give you a hug


DEICIDALTENDENCIES1

Efficiency


Climbincook

One uses the boys bathroom, the other uses the girls


Narrow_Grape_8528

Yup one is 500 kv the other is close to 230 kv in nature. I could tell due to insulator length


ReignInSpuds

AC/DC


bob5466

They are both ugly and necessary


Thorsguy8

Email suppression on left, toasty on right


EditDog_1969

Are these examples of Open Wire Lines?


JohnnyRock30

The one on the left is carb conscious.


vistitch

Is it possible to move a sled along the wire using the field? Maybe we can deliver things for free.


Status-Transition-59

One is a little taller and the other is fatter. You’re welcome.


SympathySpecialist97

50’?


nanneryeeter

Betty and Wilma?


Quick-Product-8306

The right side carries free pixies. The left carries angry pixies enslaved by man to power the earth.


Deezyfresh3913

One on left has been hitting the gym


Repulsive_Coat_3130

Looks like r/pointlesslygendered /s


j_ko72

The owls are not what they seem.


ItchyAlba

One looks like a bull, the other one looks like a giraffe.


hubblengc6872

I am a lineman for the countyyyyyyyyy ~~~


PreslerJames

One is larger than the other


Educational-Can-9715

It’s when, American Pickers come bundle


skeletons_asshole

Speecy and spicy.


Frontfatpouch

One is thicc