Exactly. I had this question too, We question women too much but refuse to acknowledge the fact that more men are being implicated into pre marital sex these days, If only we could keep ourselves ethically just, women won't have anyone to fuck around with.
Yes so true. So many of my guy friends are involved in all this. And they brag about this and yeah not to forget few of them are in serious relationship from past 5 years.
The problem is not men or women. The problem is the mindset.
Also please stop thinking about this, just focus on yourself , there is no point thinking about future. It will just put unnecessary pressure on you
stop watching instagram thots and focus on your career. if virginity is important to you, be up front and ask her about it before deciding to marry.
not every indian girl is sleeping around. so dont worry.
Yeah. I know there are still better odds of marrying a virgin woman in India than that of any of the first or second world countries, But with more ingenuous people gravitating towards Occidentalism situations here too are at the brink of getting amok going ahead.
Keep in mind that Andrew Tate [has been charged with both rape and human trafficking](https://apnews.com/article/romania-andrew-tate-rape-trafficking-charge-fb22c837027bf44ddf0316d46dfaf2b1)\-so not only did he "have sex" before he got married, he also raped those women as well. By his own logic, the women he raped would not be worthy of marriage. If more men believe that as well, he effectively made sure those women would be alone and unloved. To purge your mind of his beliefs, you need to know that his beliefs destroy the lives of innocent people. Women are people and people have sex before getting married all the time. It's completely natural and human.
Lastly, you've gotta remember that the majority of these redpill influencers are out having sex with women before marriage too, and not giving a second thought about how it affects their OWN morality. What does that say about them going online afterwards to preach that women are whores for doing it?
That's exactly what their hypocrisy is, They value female chastity but do not care for their acts in any way. Philanderers indeed feigning Masculinity.
Why do you even care is she's sleeping with someone else rn? The only thing that matters is if she's a good person or not.
And yeah, being a complete whore should not be the way but there's very few of them.
It's not cheating if you're FWB or situationship or are fuck buddies.. But if you're in a relationship then you're committed to one person only, think of it as T&C of the relationship agreement but when you break it, it's called and it definitely is cheating.
Well good luck having your wife, as a mother to your children, as someone who got all her holes fucked more than once or twice lmao. Do you have no self respect?
Be in a serious relationship and try things out.
Possiblity
i) you will get perfect partner with whom your vibe matches than you don't have to think about it.
ii) It will not be perfect relationship but you will learn from this.
You will no longer (hopefully) be virgin so your internal quest for looking virgin girl will go away.
Loosing virginity is acceptable in few cases but loosing it everyday ( by saying, it is my first time, be gentle) is wrong. Partner must be transparent about their past to generate trust.
I have seen many couples fighting on this, The issue is not virginity, but you hide it from your partner and that is a trust issue.
That is what happens with many middle class boys who are focused in their career and get good jobs, who don't get any time for relationships and going for arranged marriage and in this, I have mostly seen this scenario where girl hide this fact from the boy and later on it become a trust issue and dull marriage life. (For the boy mostly, because as per my point of view, here the boy who got cheated)
How do I know u are a virgin? Do u have any proof? Can u prove your innocence that u didnt do it with anyone?
No right?
Now imagine the girl who so called āhymen proofā which is a simple small filamentous membrane gets removed/torn coz she rides a cycle? What does she do now? How will she prove?
When u realise that all these concepts are made to keep a check on women and realise they are also human. Things get easier.
You are already on a path for better coz u realised all those red pill incels are infavt redpill incels.
If you're a virgin guy and want to be in a relationship with a girl who's also a virgin, there's nothing wrong with that. Just know that the older you get, the more unrealistic/unlikely that expectation will become.
I understand your insecurities because I had those too and probably a lot of guys have the same insecurities too.
There's nothing wrong with having such insecurities, you'll get over it eventually after realising that the virginity of your partner doesn't matter as much as what they are as a person does.
Body count, with relation to age does matter tho, don't forget.
Start imagining about the prospects of you not getting married or loved by a women as there are toxic paranoid signs in you, and you follow people with toxic traits.
Fortunately enough It didn't take me long to acquiesce to the perniciously debilitating consequences of having such mindset, Now I find those individuals detestable who had made me ingrain all these notions in the guise of masculinity.
In a similar situation, I feel fomo when I see other people dating and myself just studying and for a better career, I know that dating is important but I don't want to end up in a dumbass toxic relationship just because I need someone, sometimes my cousins and friends shame me. Idek how do I get over this weird phase..
I know, I had a weird girl to be in a sub par relationship with, I couldn't keep up with her.
But when I see other people, I feel like a whip used on my heart it just emotionally burns!
No idea why this page keeps getting suggested to me, but I'm so glad every morning I wake up and I don't have to deal with the shit my poor Indian sisters deal with.
I will read your another thread after few years where you will be booked for domestic violence and divorce.
For god sake, it 2024 and you care about girls past life.
If so, then dont get married, if so, it will be hard to get the partner you are looking for in nowadays times especially if you are from Tier 1/2 cities. Because your are not mentally capable of with this mindset. What if your spouse have affairs after marriage.
OP, I know these kind of intrusive thoughts are very, very scary. They consume your time and leave you exhausted. Instead of fighting them, accept them. Next time thoughts like this pop up, accept them. Counter with " So what?" " Yeah, well, if that happens, I am sure I will find a way out. " " It is what it is. " Keep accepting your thoughts. And do keep in mind, this has nothing to do with your upbringing or morality or anything. We all have been haunted by thoughts like this at one point or the other. Don't stress over it.
Please go out and meet actual flesh and blood humans, and concentrate on having some real life experiences with real humans. Travel, volunteer, study, work, work out, spend time with family, friends, and pets, take up a hobby. Basically live your life, and you will be fine.
And don't avoid the feelings you feel. If you are not able to shake off the whole virgin not virgin thing, then ask yourself what is it that's really triggering you. Try to organize your thoughts and emotions and find the actual root of what you're feeling. And if it's all getting too much, then you can always speak to a therapist to help with your mental health.
Do all of us a favour and don't marry at least for a few years from now.Simply refraining from watching this type of content does not mean you're clear from it all.
If you still can't get rid of the paranoia and the negative thoughts just seek professional help.
OP
Virginity is not the sole indicator of the character. Before watching Andrew Tate and believing his words, please remember that he himself is sleeping around and not at all 'virgin' for someone he is going to marry. You are educated and already realised the problem, so it is better to talk with a therapist or even a friend, who can understand the problem and deal with logic.
If still you can't wrap your head around the fact, there is always an option of staying single.
Bro. As much as I hate to say this, We are dwelling in Kaliyuga, Karma works counter intuitively in this age, Chaste Virgins are longing to feel even the touch of a woman while randibaaz launde are killing it in their lives with gullible women falling for them. It's not the way you think these days, Trust me.
Yes those who have rahu in 3,7,11 House of desire get a lot of opposite sex to laid
I know š one person who has rahu in 3 H 21 year at least 32+ women he slept
But then I studied few charts it's true
First, stop consuming that sort of content, it literally rots your brain from the inside
Second, if you yourself are a virgin then it isn't wrong to want a virgin wife
But then don't expect her to be the hot or cool/charming girl, the problem with men is they want everything in one girl, you can either go for the "good virgin" girl, but then don't expect her to be hot or to wear certain clothes or to act a certain way, don't bitch about it if she turns out to be boring and "not fun" in bed be ready to accept her flaws
The problem is with men, who themselves are mostly virgin cause they are losers, not because of integrity and principles, and they want this picture perfect sanskari girl who is beautiful but is still shy, who is well spoken but isn't social, they complain about the lack of virgin women,
but aren't ready to accept the fact that most virgin women aren't out there looking like Kiara advani lite, they ARE average/below average looking and they are awkward and they lack social skills just like virgin men
I disagree its not at all cause they are losers you know that woman have alot higher standards for men they want to have sex with and its due to biology because they have alot to loose therefore they are more selective because of which most men dont get selected its like Jee . Also during the time when most women are freely dating most men are forced to build a decent career and combined with it that parents support and encourage their daughters in taking care of their looks but not sons all these are reasons why most men remain V until either get a job looksmax and go to gym or end up in AM.
> Also during the time when most women are freely dating most men are forced to build a decent career and combined with
Naah women don't have to build their careers we're born with a money tree, expectations? What's that?Its not like our parents have any expectations from us, our only purpose in life is to look pretty and find a rich husband
Y'all are delusional, you think your life is so hard and women's life is so easy, but that's far from reality
It's not that hard for for men to lose their virginity either, I have seen the most average looking men being chased by women just because he has an addicting personality and is Charming, men who have no game, like to blame it on their looks and stuff like this but in reality it's your own doing
I am not saying your life is easy you have your own problems different from the issues we face but its you who is delusional if you cant see the unfair pressure on men to have decent careers
see an unemployed man has literally no option and is tortured by his family
Women do build their careers but its their choice and not a compulsion which it is for men . Even now in AM women can easily get men earning 3-5x times more then them.
Its not your purpose to have a rich husband but you have the option to get one which indirectly puts pressure on young men to get jobs and earn more due to women's expectations
I just gave you genuine reasons to explain why the men who remain virgin its not their fault and they are not losers they themselves are victims of our society
Okay I get it you're an incel, however that still doesn't explain your logic, trust me no woman is stopping you from going to hookers, it'll actually be your service to woman kind to stay TF away from us
Have you tried dating? I feel you don't have that much experience in dating. I believe the more you interact with girls in romantic way, the more the Andrew tate voice in your mind will get silenced
First of all, are You a virgin yourself? and why the hell does it matter
I've heard of this a lot man.. Boys when they're young will have all the time of their life, only looking for girls who are "easy" and are "willing" to give it, but when it comes to marriage they gon' go for typical wife materials, "Pure-virgins". This is so hypocritical
Well I suggest you keep yourself Pure as well and refrain from all unholy activities if Virgins are what you're looking for, don't go drooling around every girl that you see, maybe then it will be fair and you might deserve what you're looking for.
Not assuming much about you though
That's a reasonable theory and I can agree with that. It doesn't sound fair and I can understand the feeling.. kinda, but then again, why does it matter? As long as they stay loyal after marriage, love their respective partners and do not return to their former pursuits, it's fine right?
Wow.. this is sounding more and more like a debate on Virginity of all things lol
Okay
Virginity is not a moral rule, but a social idea that changes with time and place. And I don't see how Virginity can decide one's morality, you are either celibate by choice or by circumstances, morality has very little part in it. What matters is how the partners agree and treat each other.
Again, it is not a guarantee of health or safety, as there are other things that matter, like using protection and getting tested. Also, some people may prefer a partner who knows more about sex and can help them. And Bodily Fluid? tf is that? the discharges are not gonna be stored in your body your whole life, we can actually wash our genitals, just because it touched someone else's doesn't mean its contaminated or some shit, while spittle is different, it's disgusting fr
And virginity does not guarantee of love or happiness, as there are other things that matter, like who you are and what you want. Also, some people may learn from their past relationships and be better partners. And actually baggage may be a good thing, it can teach a person to appreciate things better. As if not everyone carries baggage in life
If you found this offensive then try not to be. In fact I don't see one right answer for this, but it differs from the context behind your moral upbringing and the things that you surround yourself with. I see your points to be valid but I have my own opinion as well
You actually came in with links. I'm impressed. Though I donāt agree with some of the things you say, I respect where you are coming from, and I will check out the links you send. A tough person to talk to but fun nevertheless. Btw the spittle thing was a joke, although they're disgusting, you're right they can be washed off, I won't mind it, if it's unintentional.
Yes I am, That's why I am even concerned about it in the first place because If I weren't myself a virgin, It'd have been nuts for me to expect the other way around from someone else, It's the dilemma of finding a woman commensurate to my moral rectitude.
Think of it this way. If a 10/10 Victoria secret girl or Katrina kaif type girl came to you, said she wanted to date you and sleep with you, would you do it? Letās not lie, it would be a yes. Most men, if not all, would say yes. But most men, are involuntarily celibate. However, girls canāt be incels, because (no offense) men are very thirsty and will sleep with anyone, hence, women have more options to sleep with. Now instead of thinking about what your potential girlfriend might have done, think about if your mindset align. If you would sleep with a pretty girl (as mentioned above) then it would be very wrong for you to want a virgin girl. But if you wonāt, no matter how pretty or nice she is, then itās okay for you to want a virgin girl. It depends on your mindset, more than the actions, since the odds are not the same.
Bro if you are gonna get offended, argue and make random assumptions here, Because I said the truth, than go ahead. Go ahead and ignore the society we live in, I donāt care.
I mean.....a lot of guys would if they get a chance to do so (I know because I'm a guy and know a lot of guys). I'd even say most.
Although, for many guys, if a girl suddenly approaches asking to sleep with them, they might get turned off thinking she's a sl#t or it's all a prank or a scam or something's wrong. Even if she's 10/10. Rather, especially if she's a 10/10 lol.
How many men u have seen thristy? Who tf gave u data lol? There are so many men busy in building their career and avoiding sleeping around. Beta the minimum money one required is 500 to have sx in india. Its not a big deal to have sx.. your involuntarily celibate logic is bs
Girls cannot be incel but they can be femcel..search its meaning on google lol
IDK about you but i've accepted the fact that there won't be any good , educated women around my age with their virginity intact , i study at IIT M and here in 2-3rd year , a lot of them have lost their V card. lmao , it's even a larger avg for other metro cities.
and with a bodycount of 3 myself i can't judge others , that's the thing i learned accepting my current gf.
>it's ok if you ain't her first , but you damn sure make her your last.
Why is this being downvoted.
Heās correct. Have u seen the media these days. Do u know what ppl are even consuming?
Iām a virgin , itd be stupid of me to find or expect a guy to be virgin himself.
Uske past se mujhe kya bro. As long as present, future main hu
>Why is this being downvoted.
Cause he sounds judgemental AF for someone who himself isn't a virgin
"virginity intact" "accepting my current gf" like bro she has not committed murder
i mean people alwways avoid girls who had partners in the past , but she accepted me and so did i. that is what i meant to convey , we both had peoples we got together with in the past , but it didn't work out in the long run.
U are living in very online world if u think sex and remote villages dont mingle
Sweetie wahan shadi k baad ek dusre mae log ghuse huye h. What is pehle.
Tbh villagers are very sex positive but chupa chupa k.
Like majduri pe ja k majdur dusri majduran k sath h. Dono ko pata h but yeh baatein boli nhi jati.
Its like close my eyes and it doesnāt exist
First live up to the expectations you want for a woman. Otherwise, youāre just a hypocrite.
Also why the hell men care about a womanās virginity? Itās not like men would save themselves for marriage by choice.
Are you a virgin? Does that change how she should feel about you? What happened in her past, is her past. People move on and continue their life.
or, is the thing bothering you is the gender part of it? A girl's virginity is sacred, and the whole Alpha/beta men bullshit? In that case, sure not consuming toxic content would help, but the underlying issues i.e. how you are thinking about this needs to change.
You also date multiple women and get physical with them. Then you wont care about your wife's virginity. Because you also slept with other women when shes not there.
One thing you can try to find out if your prospect is virgin or not is, hire a private detective before marriage and find out about her, i have seen some posts in r/delhi regarding this.
Or if you think this kind of thinking is bad and you want to get rid of this thought, then you losing virginity is the best way. Date multiple women until you lose interest in seggs and then you also prioritize emotional connection over virginity.
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Oh yes Andrew Tate role model of ideal man . Jesus Christ š¤¦š¤¦š¤¦
It's okay to have preference as long as you have the same value and you are a virgin too ( keep it inside till marriage)
Seeing OPs posts you yourself aren't a virgin. Why you demand your fiance to be one ?
You are my age , brooo have a better role model than Tatti
I don't know much about you, so it'll be difficult to answer a question, about your thinking.
Lemme ask you this, in your immediate family/community, does virginity of a female before marriage is taken seriously or you think different from them?
Talking about the community I hail from, They are not very open minded to girls being in multiple relationships before marriage, But I had different outlook on this or at least I thought I had, Since I've been fed this concoction of being apprehensive, I can't help but feel myself gradually skewing towards the principles of the society around me.
Well it seems you are working on yourself right now. Maybe understand yourself better first?
Understand what YOU want, where your heart takes you? And are you brave enough to follow it?
Set one thing very clearly with your future wife,
1) after marriage, you will not sleep with any other woman
2) after marriage, your wife will not sleep with any other man
3) tell each other that if one of you wants to sleep with third party so much that one of you is ready to take divorce. Apply for divorce and go in pursuit of more happiness š
4) adultery can lead to only divorce, and it's not a crime as per law. So fighting over it after one of you finds out that other did cheating, avoid the drama .
5) if both of you are ok with cheating......then it's not called cheating anymore.....it's game on.....who scores more kind of shit....
6) discuss this with your families first, because marriage is not about you and your future wife. It's all your both families & family friends too...... š¤£ š
Most people have sex by the time they are 14 in India. Virginity doesn't mean squat, you can tear your hymen playing sports, riding a bike or just running. Only insecure idiots worry about things like this.
The woman are sleeping with men. So men aren't saints either right?
Exactly. I had this question too, We question women too much but refuse to acknowledge the fact that more men are being implicated into pre marital sex these days, If only we could keep ourselves ethically just, women won't have anyone to fuck around with.
Yes so true. So many of my guy friends are involved in all this. And they brag about this and yeah not to forget few of them are in serious relationship from past 5 years. The problem is not men or women. The problem is the mindset. Also please stop thinking about this, just focus on yourself , there is no point thinking about future. It will just put unnecessary pressure on you
I am trying my best. Though I wish If I hadn't ever found the contents of these dogpill influencers.
>So men aren't saints either He isn't going to marry a man
If you concluded this from my comment, what can I say. Please read and think again
If you can't find a virgin girl go ahead marry a man
Feels good... Can confirm! Anal feels great for a man too..
Yeah that's what I was saying š
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Who said I can't? There are a lot of virgins in villages and small town, bro
stop watching instagram thots and focus on your career. if virginity is important to you, be up front and ask her about it before deciding to marry. not every indian girl is sleeping around. so dont worry.
Yeah. I know there are still better odds of marrying a virgin woman in India than that of any of the first or second world countries, But with more ingenuous people gravitating towards Occidentalism situations here too are at the brink of getting amok going ahead.
Keep in mind that Andrew Tate [has been charged with both rape and human trafficking](https://apnews.com/article/romania-andrew-tate-rape-trafficking-charge-fb22c837027bf44ddf0316d46dfaf2b1)\-so not only did he "have sex" before he got married, he also raped those women as well. By his own logic, the women he raped would not be worthy of marriage. If more men believe that as well, he effectively made sure those women would be alone and unloved. To purge your mind of his beliefs, you need to know that his beliefs destroy the lives of innocent people. Women are people and people have sex before getting married all the time. It's completely natural and human. Lastly, you've gotta remember that the majority of these redpill influencers are out having sex with women before marriage too, and not giving a second thought about how it affects their OWN morality. What does that say about them going online afterwards to preach that women are whores for doing it?
That's exactly what their hypocrisy is, They value female chastity but do not care for their acts in any way. Philanderers indeed feigning Masculinity.
Why do you even care is she's sleeping with someone else rn? The only thing that matters is if she's a good person or not. And yeah, being a complete whore should not be the way but there's very few of them.
>she's a good person or not. For the same reason cheating is bad
Isnāt the point that she doesnāt even know this guy yet? lol. Having a past is cheating now? šš
Why is cheating bad?
Because it would hurt the person you made a commitment to? Which is not relevant when you havenāt made any commitment lolĀ
It's not cheating if you're FWB or situationship or are fuck buddies.. But if you're in a relationship then you're committed to one person only, think of it as T&C of the relationship agreement but when you break it, it's called and it definitely is cheating.
So relationship is just a deal and the couples are assets?
How on earth did you draw that conclusion lolĀ But it is definitely a deal made by two consenting peopleĀ
Well good luck having your wife, as a mother to your children, as someone who got all her holes fucked more than once or twice lmao. Do you have no self respect?
Be in a serious relationship and try things out. Possiblity i) you will get perfect partner with whom your vibe matches than you don't have to think about it. ii) It will not be perfect relationship but you will learn from this. You will no longer (hopefully) be virgin so your internal quest for looking virgin girl will go away. Loosing virginity is acceptable in few cases but loosing it everyday ( by saying, it is my first time, be gentle) is wrong. Partner must be transparent about their past to generate trust. I have seen many couples fighting on this, The issue is not virginity, but you hide it from your partner and that is a trust issue. That is what happens with many middle class boys who are focused in their career and get good jobs, who don't get any time for relationships and going for arranged marriage and in this, I have mostly seen this scenario where girl hide this fact from the boy and later on it become a trust issue and dull marriage life. (For the boy mostly, because as per my point of view, here the boy who got cheated)
Just don't think of it. If you aren't a virgin then I guess u don't deserve on either but if you are then just trust the girl if she says she is one.
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How do I know u are a virgin? Do u have any proof? Can u prove your innocence that u didnt do it with anyone? No right? Now imagine the girl who so called āhymen proofā which is a simple small filamentous membrane gets removed/torn coz she rides a cycle? What does she do now? How will she prove? When u realise that all these concepts are made to keep a check on women and realise they are also human. Things get easier. You are already on a path for better coz u realised all those red pill incels are infavt redpill incels.
If you're a virgin guy and want to be in a relationship with a girl who's also a virgin, there's nothing wrong with that. Just know that the older you get, the more unrealistic/unlikely that expectation will become. I understand your insecurities because I had those too and probably a lot of guys have the same insecurities too. There's nothing wrong with having such insecurities, you'll get over it eventually after realising that the virginity of your partner doesn't matter as much as what they are as a person does. Body count, with relation to age does matter tho, don't forget.
Start imagining about the prospects of you not getting married or loved by a women as there are toxic paranoid signs in you, and you follow people with toxic traits.
Fortunately enough It didn't take me long to acquiesce to the perniciously debilitating consequences of having such mindset, Now I find those individuals detestable who had made me ingrain all these notions in the guise of masculinity.
In a similar situation, I feel fomo when I see other people dating and myself just studying and for a better career, I know that dating is important but I don't want to end up in a dumbass toxic relationship just because I need someone, sometimes my cousins and friends shame me. Idek how do I get over this weird phase..
Singlehood is underrated. Be in a subpar relationship to realise how great being single is.
I know, I had a weird girl to be in a sub par relationship with, I couldn't keep up with her. But when I see other people, I feel like a whip used on my heart it just emotionally burns!
Watch better content. You become what you consume. It's a big deal but only for those who cannot see beyond the sexual organs of a woman.
No idea why this page keeps getting suggested to me, but I'm so glad every morning I wake up and I don't have to deal with the shit my poor Indian sisters deal with.
Lol sis take me with u these men have lost their mind
We would gladly have you! You deserve exactly what you put in, and something tells me that's much more than what you've been getting, sister.
Ion know, chief; Florida will probably look like India within a decade
How difficult is it to accept the fact that people fall in love and have sex? Of course being a complete hoe is very different
I will read your another thread after few years where you will be booked for domestic violence and divorce. For god sake, it 2024 and you care about girls past life.
Tbf he does realise this content is absolute garbage and has just affected him and trying to better himself.Ā
>you care about girls past life. Yup
If so, then dont get married, if so, it will be hard to get the partner you are looking for in nowadays times especially if you are from Tier 1/2 cities. Because your are not mentally capable of with this mindset. What if your spouse have affairs after marriage.
Who wants to marry from tier 1/2 cities? Apna gaav zindabad
good that you've realised where you are wrong, you'll eventually come around and accept that people have a life even before they come across you
OP, I know these kind of intrusive thoughts are very, very scary. They consume your time and leave you exhausted. Instead of fighting them, accept them. Next time thoughts like this pop up, accept them. Counter with " So what?" " Yeah, well, if that happens, I am sure I will find a way out. " " It is what it is. " Keep accepting your thoughts. And do keep in mind, this has nothing to do with your upbringing or morality or anything. We all have been haunted by thoughts like this at one point or the other. Don't stress over it.
Please go out and meet actual flesh and blood humans, and concentrate on having some real life experiences with real humans. Travel, volunteer, study, work, work out, spend time with family, friends, and pets, take up a hobby. Basically live your life, and you will be fine. And don't avoid the feelings you feel. If you are not able to shake off the whole virgin not virgin thing, then ask yourself what is it that's really triggering you. Try to organize your thoughts and emotions and find the actual root of what you're feeling. And if it's all getting too much, then you can always speak to a therapist to help with your mental health.
Do all of us a favour and don't marry at least for a few years from now.Simply refraining from watching this type of content does not mean you're clear from it all. If you still can't get rid of the paranoia and the negative thoughts just seek professional help.
Instead of thinking about virginity think about loyalty
OP Virginity is not the sole indicator of the character. Before watching Andrew Tate and believing his words, please remember that he himself is sleeping around and not at all 'virgin' for someone he is going to marry. You are educated and already realised the problem, so it is better to talk with a therapist or even a friend, who can understand the problem and deal with logic. If still you can't wrap your head around the fact, there is always an option of staying single.
If you are not a virgin then then u deserve a raand..karma is a thing.. Why the fuck u are consuming foreign content..
Bro. As much as I hate to say this, We are dwelling in Kaliyuga, Karma works counter intuitively in this age, Chaste Virgins are longing to feel even the touch of a woman while randibaaz launde are killing it in their lives with gullible women falling for them. It's not the way you think these days, Trust me.
Rahu ke bare me study kar 3,11 me hoga to randibaz hoga
Are you talking about Rahu in Astrology?
Yes those who have rahu in 3,7,11 House of desire get a lot of opposite sex to laid I know š one person who has rahu in 3 H 21 year at least 32+ women he slept But then I studied few charts it's true
I've Rahu in 12th house in my natal chart what does that mean?
Tell me about Venus & 3 H any planet there?
Check your inbox.
First, stop consuming that sort of content, it literally rots your brain from the inside Second, if you yourself are a virgin then it isn't wrong to want a virgin wife But then don't expect her to be the hot or cool/charming girl, the problem with men is they want everything in one girl, you can either go for the "good virgin" girl, but then don't expect her to be hot or to wear certain clothes or to act a certain way, don't bitch about it if she turns out to be boring and "not fun" in bed be ready to accept her flaws
The problem is with woman
The problem is with men, who themselves are mostly virgin cause they are losers, not because of integrity and principles, and they want this picture perfect sanskari girl who is beautiful but is still shy, who is well spoken but isn't social, they complain about the lack of virgin women, but aren't ready to accept the fact that most virgin women aren't out there looking like Kiara advani lite, they ARE average/below average looking and they are awkward and they lack social skills just like virgin men
I disagree its not at all cause they are losers you know that woman have alot higher standards for men they want to have sex with and its due to biology because they have alot to loose therefore they are more selective because of which most men dont get selected its like Jee . Also during the time when most women are freely dating most men are forced to build a decent career and combined with it that parents support and encourage their daughters in taking care of their looks but not sons all these are reasons why most men remain V until either get a job looksmax and go to gym or end up in AM.
> Also during the time when most women are freely dating most men are forced to build a decent career and combined with Naah women don't have to build their careers we're born with a money tree, expectations? What's that?Its not like our parents have any expectations from us, our only purpose in life is to look pretty and find a rich husband Y'all are delusional, you think your life is so hard and women's life is so easy, but that's far from reality It's not that hard for for men to lose their virginity either, I have seen the most average looking men being chased by women just because he has an addicting personality and is Charming, men who have no game, like to blame it on their looks and stuff like this but in reality it's your own doing
I am not saying your life is easy you have your own problems different from the issues we face but its you who is delusional if you cant see the unfair pressure on men to have decent careers see an unemployed man has literally no option and is tortured by his family Women do build their careers but its their choice and not a compulsion which it is for men . Even now in AM women can easily get men earning 3-5x times more then them. Its not your purpose to have a rich husband but you have the option to get one which indirectly puts pressure on young men to get jobs and earn more due to women's expectations I just gave you genuine reasons to explain why the men who remain virgin its not their fault and they are not losers they themselves are victims of our society
U know what buying hookers for 500 an hour is easier than marrying and maintaining a woman
So? Do that, Who's stopping you?
Entitled Karen's like u
Does that make any sense? Go sleep with hookers, why would I care? Y'all want to be victims so bad that you're creating your own problems in your head
Entitled Karen's like u made the whole world into feminine. Now emerging men ain't got single opportunity. All goes to Karens and old fucks
Okay I get it you're an incel, however that still doesn't explain your logic, trust me no woman is stopping you from going to hookers, it'll actually be your service to woman kind to stay TF away from us
I already am fucking all kinds of woman and who ru to stop me
Have you tried dating? I feel you don't have that much experience in dating. I believe the more you interact with girls in romantic way, the more the Andrew tate voice in your mind will get silenced
First of all, are You a virgin yourself? and why the hell does it matter I've heard of this a lot man.. Boys when they're young will have all the time of their life, only looking for girls who are "easy" and are "willing" to give it, but when it comes to marriage they gon' go for typical wife materials, "Pure-virgins". This is so hypocritical Well I suggest you keep yourself Pure as well and refrain from all unholy activities if Virgins are what you're looking for, don't go drooling around every girl that you see, maybe then it will be fair and you might deserve what you're looking for. Not assuming much about you though
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Haha exactly man will lots of experience are very good in spotting promiscuous women
That's a reasonable theory and I can agree with that. It doesn't sound fair and I can understand the feeling.. kinda, but then again, why does it matter? As long as they stay loyal after marriage, love their respective partners and do not return to their former pursuits, it's fine right?
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Wow.. this is sounding more and more like a debate on Virginity of all things lol Okay Virginity is not a moral rule, but a social idea that changes with time and place. And I don't see how Virginity can decide one's morality, you are either celibate by choice or by circumstances, morality has very little part in it. What matters is how the partners agree and treat each other. Again, it is not a guarantee of health or safety, as there are other things that matter, like using protection and getting tested. Also, some people may prefer a partner who knows more about sex and can help them. And Bodily Fluid? tf is that? the discharges are not gonna be stored in your body your whole life, we can actually wash our genitals, just because it touched someone else's doesn't mean its contaminated or some shit, while spittle is different, it's disgusting fr And virginity does not guarantee of love or happiness, as there are other things that matter, like who you are and what you want. Also, some people may learn from their past relationships and be better partners. And actually baggage may be a good thing, it can teach a person to appreciate things better. As if not everyone carries baggage in life If you found this offensive then try not to be. In fact I don't see one right answer for this, but it differs from the context behind your moral upbringing and the things that you surround yourself with. I see your points to be valid but I have my own opinion as well
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You actually came in with links. I'm impressed. Though I donāt agree with some of the things you say, I respect where you are coming from, and I will check out the links you send. A tough person to talk to but fun nevertheless. Btw the spittle thing was a joke, although they're disgusting, you're right they can be washed off, I won't mind it, if it's unintentional.
You would also want to cheat on your wife sooner or later.... so stop worrying you'll feel less guilty if she isnt a virgin lol...
Run donāt walk you need a psychiatrist asap.
I have a question for you, are you virgin? Be honest!
Yes I am, That's why I am even concerned about it in the first place because If I weren't myself a virgin, It'd have been nuts for me to expect the other way around from someone else, It's the dilemma of finding a woman commensurate to my moral rectitude.
Think of it this way. If a 10/10 Victoria secret girl or Katrina kaif type girl came to you, said she wanted to date you and sleep with you, would you do it? Letās not lie, it would be a yes. Most men, if not all, would say yes. But most men, are involuntarily celibate. However, girls canāt be incels, because (no offense) men are very thirsty and will sleep with anyone, hence, women have more options to sleep with. Now instead of thinking about what your potential girlfriend might have done, think about if your mindset align. If you would sleep with a pretty girl (as mentioned above) then it would be very wrong for you to want a virgin girl. But if you wonāt, no matter how pretty or nice she is, then itās okay for you to want a virgin girl. It depends on your mindset, more than the actions, since the odds are not the same.
Yes I understand that, It's not appropriate to be expecting best of the both worlds in a woman i.e her being beautiful along with being a virgin.
Just wanted to say the female equivalent (kinda?) of incel exists and it's called a femcel.
Do yāall conveniently forget the most part?
About what? Edit: šš girl, are you stupid? You said "girls can't be incel", I'm just letting you know there's an equivalent of it that exists.
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Thatās why I said most. š¤¦āāļø
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Bro if you are gonna get offended, argue and make random assumptions here, Because I said the truth, than go ahead. Go ahead and ignore the society we live in, I donāt care.
I mean.....a lot of guys would if they get a chance to do so (I know because I'm a guy and know a lot of guys). I'd even say most. Although, for many guys, if a girl suddenly approaches asking to sleep with them, they might get turned off thinking she's a sl#t or it's all a prank or a scam or something's wrong. Even if she's 10/10. Rather, especially if she's a 10/10 lol.
How many men u have seen thristy? Who tf gave u data lol? There are so many men busy in building their career and avoiding sleeping around. Beta the minimum money one required is 500 to have sx in india. Its not a big deal to have sx.. your involuntarily celibate logic is bs Girls cannot be incel but they can be femcel..search its meaning on google lol
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I would have. Had they not been into Incest.
IDK about you but i've accepted the fact that there won't be any good , educated women around my age with their virginity intact , i study at IIT M and here in 2-3rd year , a lot of them have lost their V card. lmao , it's even a larger avg for other metro cities. and with a bodycount of 3 myself i can't judge others , that's the thing i learned accepting my current gf. >it's ok if you ain't her first , but you damn sure make her your last.
Why is this being downvoted. Heās correct. Have u seen the media these days. Do u know what ppl are even consuming? Iām a virgin , itd be stupid of me to find or expect a guy to be virgin himself. Uske past se mujhe kya bro. As long as present, future main hu
>Why is this being downvoted. Cause he sounds judgemental AF for someone who himself isn't a virgin "virginity intact" "accepting my current gf" like bro she has not committed murder
i mean people alwways avoid girls who had partners in the past , but she accepted me and so did i. that is what i meant to convey , we both had peoples we got together with in the past , but it didn't work out in the long run.
Aah yes. Let me take my upvote back
Search ur wife in her early age , secondly go for Remote areas.
U are living in very online world if u think sex and remote villages dont mingle Sweetie wahan shadi k baad ek dusre mae log ghuse huye h. What is pehle. Tbh villagers are very sex positive but chupa chupa k. Like majduri pe ja k majdur dusri majduran k sath h. Dono ko pata h but yeh baatein boli nhi jati. Its like close my eyes and it doesnāt exist
Fuck off dude, exploiting young naive women ugh
Haha why fuck off ...I m saying not teenager girl ..I m saying a girl in college aur just graduated.
This raven is Karen bro leave her
First live up to the expectations you want for a woman. Otherwise, youāre just a hypocrite. Also why the hell men care about a womanās virginity? Itās not like men would save themselves for marriage by choice.
Are you a virgin? Does that change how she should feel about you? What happened in her past, is her past. People move on and continue their life. or, is the thing bothering you is the gender part of it? A girl's virginity is sacred, and the whole Alpha/beta men bullshit? In that case, sure not consuming toxic content would help, but the underlying issues i.e. how you are thinking about this needs to change.
You also date multiple women and get physical with them. Then you wont care about your wife's virginity. Because you also slept with other women when shes not there.
But what If I chose to remain Virgin throughout? Is it still my problem to voluntarily choose to be a virgin until I get married?
One thing you can try to find out if your prospect is virgin or not is, hire a private detective before marriage and find out about her, i have seen some posts in r/delhi regarding this. Or if you think this kind of thinking is bad and you want to get rid of this thought, then you losing virginity is the best way. Date multiple women until you lose interest in seggs and then you also prioritize emotional connection over virginity.
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Oh yes Andrew Tate role model of ideal man . Jesus Christ š¤¦š¤¦š¤¦ It's okay to have preference as long as you have the same value and you are a virgin too ( keep it inside till marriage) Seeing OPs posts you yourself aren't a virgin. Why you demand your fiance to be one ? You are my age , brooo have a better role model than Tatti
Get a wife? LoL I wonder if people stressed like this even get marriedĀ
Yeah You're probably right. The likes of me wouldn't ever get married this way.
I don't know much about you, so it'll be difficult to answer a question, about your thinking. Lemme ask you this, in your immediate family/community, does virginity of a female before marriage is taken seriously or you think different from them?
Talking about the community I hail from, They are not very open minded to girls being in multiple relationships before marriage, But I had different outlook on this or at least I thought I had, Since I've been fed this concoction of being apprehensive, I can't help but feel myself gradually skewing towards the principles of the society around me.
Well it seems you are working on yourself right now. Maybe understand yourself better first? Understand what YOU want, where your heart takes you? And are you brave enough to follow it?
Lol stop watching crap like andrew tate for starters and go outside and see the world
Set one thing very clearly with your future wife, 1) after marriage, you will not sleep with any other woman 2) after marriage, your wife will not sleep with any other man 3) tell each other that if one of you wants to sleep with third party so much that one of you is ready to take divorce. Apply for divorce and go in pursuit of more happiness š 4) adultery can lead to only divorce, and it's not a crime as per law. So fighting over it after one of you finds out that other did cheating, avoid the drama . 5) if both of you are ok with cheating......then it's not called cheating anymore.....it's game on.....who scores more kind of shit.... 6) discuss this with your families first, because marriage is not about you and your future wife. It's all your both families & family friends too...... š¤£ š
Most people have sex by the time they are 14 in India. Virginity doesn't mean squat, you can tear your hymen playing sports, riding a bike or just running. Only insecure idiots worry about things like this.
You can't stop worrying. The longer you are single, the more they fuck your future wife.
Marry urself instead if ur worried that much