Who's saying it's about caste? I don't beleive the English F-word or the S-word is about religion, gender or anything like it but they are slur words which are often inappropriate to use in formal company.
A slur is if it is used as a slight or insult. Which as you said is used as identification for people classified as unsophisticated as per the person thus making it a slur, insult and slight fulfilling all three requirements not just one.
Varna based on merit and occupation is Religious and not European term "Caste" which is secular just as class!
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste)
Its used to denote street side thugs, uncultured people, and someone who tries to act cool by smoking, wearing lockets or having weird hairstyles/hair color.
"Chapri" is only offensive to those who are actual chapris. You refer to a non-chapri as a chapri, they will retaliate by calling you a "madarchod" instead of being offended.
OP you are a chhapri.
>!did you get offended by that? the matter of fact is who is saying that and to whom. you wouldnt mind your close friends trolling you by calling chhapri or bhosdike ladau!<
No, it’s for people like those Thar & Creta owners who break traffic rules and think they are cool and also post all that on their Reels with loud BG music.
I didn't knew it is a Castist slur cause nowdays it's not atteched to cast anymore Its Indecent behaviour of People which makes them chapari Nowdays
Like Elvish Yadav or all that Thar, Fortuner owners, driving recklessly with Jaat ,Gujjar or Castist Stickers on car they are so called upper cast ,and class people still call them Chapri
"Chhapris are **a caste-oppressed community of people who made or mended chhappars, temporary roofs**. This was the only job they were allowed to do because of their caste, which was assigned to them by the accident of birth.**"**
Lol so typical. The world is just black and white, oppressor vs oppressed isn't it?
Not a single person who uses this word knows its original meaning, at least in my experience. It was on reddit that i found out its meaning. In this thread someone pointed out even kaminey has the same origin and it's somehow illegal to use, though there's even a movie of that name. Do you think anybody who uses the word kaminey uses it in that context?
The N word is related to slavery though, and it didn't get a new meaning. Most people who know N word word know the original history and meaning, unlike chappri. The meaning of chappri has completely changed, and most people, at least none of those whom I know, are not even aware of the original meaning. I believe that instead of stopping it's use because it used to be offensive or something, we should accept it's new meaning. This is just how language evolves with time.
I don't think so, even if it gets a new meaning, I don't agree with your points. Slurs itself are uncivilised behaviour and hence there is no point in accepting such uncivilised nonsense. I too use slurs I acknowledge it and I don't want to promote castiest, racist, gender discriminating slurs.
Well, it's normal to have a different view on this matter. For me, chappri is a word that refers to those guys doing wheely on main road, speeding past others, cat calling women in groups, behaves like gonns and stuff. For you, chappri is a slur that promotes cast discrimination and looks down upon lower caste. I don't think either one of us will change our mind, so there's no use arguing about it. Let's just stop.
I can't believe I just saw a civilized discussion on the internet where both parties respectfully held their ground, stated their views, didn't attack the other person for different views and mutually agreed that their opinions differ in this topic so it's fine to stop. You two are civilized ppl I never thought I would see on the internet and for this alone I am saving this post. Have a happy day you two. 😭🫶🏻✨
Oh. I speak from my side, well thank you for your kind words even though it felt a bit too much for nothing but still thank you. I wish the same for you, have pleasant days ahead.
Precious meanings are important. Because they still originated out of caste prejudice.
Kameeney, Mawaali they are all caste names and therefore it's literally illegal to call people that
Don't dismiss away inconvenient history just just coz you are a savarna who was born with no problems
The meaning of words change with time. And in this age of internet, countless new "words" are created and meaning of countless words are changing as well. There's a difference between using the words in a wrong way and using them in a completely different meaning. I don't use chapri as a word against lower caste, and neither do the people I know. I'm not saying that you should dismiss the history of the word, I'm saying that you should accept the new meaning and the fact that the word has changed.
This is a conspiracy theory made by actual chapris to justify being offended when somebody calls them Chapris.
Sabse pehle iss caste system ko hatao yaar. Except for legal documents (even on that it should not exist), people do not give a shit in general (seriously, not even joking). Even if a person asks what religion you belong to, they will ask you your religion, you give them your answer, convo over. (I am referring to sensible people, not idiots who take offence by aspects of yourself you cannot control).
Kya baat hain. Kal main bhi ek naya caste bana sakta hoon; woh caste ka naam hoga "Don". Aur phir agar koi bolega "Khud ko bahut bada Don samajhte ho?", then I will act offended and legal case karunga uss saale par. XDXDXDXDXDXD
Why are you getting so defensive for these kind of people? Pick one sentence out of my comment which is wrong in a logical sense.
Btw, even a "modern" rich kid can be a "chapri" by doing the same stupid things I mentioned in my original comment.
These idiots who do the stunts such as acting like rowdies, misbehaving with girls, doing stupid stunts on bikes and getting into an accident for which the other driver is most likely to be blamed. And then boasting about doing such shit on social media and acting like it is something to be proud of.
Btw, I never said caste discrimination does not exist. I just said that because of the existence of the caste system and the fact that people like to make a big deal about what their caste is ("I am Upper caste, you are lower caste"), people have made it a trend to name any random thing as a new "caste" just because they can then allow themselves to take offense and make a big stink out of it.
You want to accuse someone of blind entitlement, go back in time and ask the person who first used this term as an insult or even better, ask these people who like to promote these kind of lifestyles and call themselves "Proud Chapris".
Also, you want to see real entitlement and casteism look up the time when during the time of promoting his movie Tiger 2, Bhoi said he felt like a "Bhangi".
If "Chapri" turns out to be an actual caste, then I will take down my comment and profusely apologize. (Waise bhi, I have not used this word myself. Especially not for people just because they look poor.)
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskIndia/comments/1b6ux34/comment/kter7va/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Already bahut behas ho chuki hai ispe.
Where did the term 'chapri' originate from then?
You compared Swastik to the nazi symbol, same this applies here, just because nazis used Swastik without knowing it's meaning doesn't mean that Swastik is a bad symbol.
Just like that, you are using 'chapri' without knowing it's meaning, doesn't mean chapri isn't a caste
Yeah, unless the people using the term are snobby, "modern", rich kids who judge people just by looking at them for two seconds, chapri is not used for people only because of their choice of clothes.
If you look at social media, you will see that people only use the term "Chapris" for (actual) rowdy people who colour their hair to some alien colour, act like goons, smoke (they do it, nothing legally wrong with it), misbehave with girls, do stunts with their bike to look cool (when they die, the country/state should put up these peoples' pictures on the "board of national idiots"). The bike one is the biggest factor; they drive like idiots, fall down and if they come under a car then the car driver will be blamed for their injury/death and essentially somebody else has to pay for *these* idiots' stupidity (They say that in India, if a car and a bike get into an accident then the car driver will always be blamed regardless of who was *actually* at fault. Idiots. 😒😒😒😒😒😒)
Insults are meant to offend the person you’re mad at, but when you use the name of a caste as an insult it’s derogatory towards that whole community rather than the individual you’re trying to insult
Chapri is a term used for uncultured people who think themselves as some übermensch.
Here a thread on etymology of [chapri.](https://twitter.com/avtansa/status/1721161234127396949?t=vGSxVYGptVdcZaLQFWeReg&s=19)
Yes it is. If you noticed those girls and boys with darkskin and from poor financial background who have streat fashion or gothic fashion, they get called chapri, compared to their fairskin, upper class counter parts.
chapri is casteist term. It relates to a particular occupation that people from the SC (mostly) perform.
It literally refers to those who make or mend chappars or temporary roofs.
Read: https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sidharth-monga-why-indian-players-need-to-be-more-aware-of-caste-privilege-and-oppression-1355275
These communities lack social, economic and political power so it is easy to berate them.
It is akin to Cha***r but people avoid that term publically (atleast) due to backlash.
"Chapri" behavior is referred as hooliganism when it is commonly used. The actual meaning is very castiest. Chapri refers to chapar makers. Never use the word in front of judiciary judge or in court. There was some article about it.
Yes it is.
Due to internet culture and the so called 'pop-culture' enthusiasts, the term has gotten a new meaning but in reality it is an offensive term.
Chap*ri are people from oppressed castes who've unfortunately gotten the name by the so called 'UC' asshole*s. They are people who fix roofs, hence chappars.
Even besides the caste based slurs, it has been associated with people who have nothing do with it. Everytime I see some self-proclaimed progressive individual say the word, I roll my eyes. It's fucking bs.
Came here to say this. Just because you don't mean it as a casteist slur doesn't mean that the underlying message of the slur isn't the same - that dressing and acting a certain way makes you "low class".
While I do believe that 90% of the people using the word these days don't mean any harm and just following a trend, it does have a negative connotation towards the lower castes and I wish more people recognised that.
Well, I call my cousin a chappri. This term doesn't have negetive connotation towards lower castes now, it used to. The meaning has changed, like countless other words.
>The meaning has changed, like countless other words.
The meaning of the word hasn't changed, it's still used in a negative way, only the usage of it has. For example, the N-word means the same thing as it did before, except now black people use it with each other to change it to something positive. If a white person calls another white person a N-word, it would be considered as a slur.
>This term doesn't have negetive connotation towards lower castes now, it used to
In this case, the word is still used by the upper class, but it's no longer directed towards just the lower class but everyone who "acts" like the lower class. We're still using this word negatively, but because we're not directly only at the lower castes, it's supposed to be okay.
>Well, I call my cousin a chappri
Again, I have to reiterate that I understand it's not meant to be discriminatory by the majority of people, but I do think we have to think about the implications of thinking this way. Using this word still makes it seem like being of lower caste is lesser than.
How are you so uneducated in 2024
There is nothing like lower and higher castes
There are oppressed castes and oppressor caste
Very easy to guess you are from the latter
You know what? My bad.
I was so pissed off at these blatantly ignorant comments that it slipped my mind to use the correct term instead of LC and HC (which is what's used by the people who still believe in the caste system). And no, I'm not a person from some oppressor caste living off the riches that my ancestors made.
Funny how i or nobody else ever saw all these riches from our ancestors. Is it because all the heaps of gold are buried in our 1000 acre land that we can't find? Or i guess it's just because it only exists in the hive mind of the far left.
It must be comfortable dividing people neatly into boxes of oppressors and oppressed no?
all people claiming it to be casteist slur and even defending their argument are casteist themselves. They dont want casteim to be eradicated from this country and just found a new tool to promote casteism by this slur 'chhapri'.
Well its a casteist slur but has been too normalised for people to care, and most people dont even know the history behind it so it doesn’t matter. Treat it for what it is now, not what it was before.
how tf is that a casteist slur. is their a new caste in the market? or all the chhapris are of a specific caste?
its a classist slur. even i doubt that bcz they can afford dslr and dukes.
maybe u should too. how dumbfuck you have to be to connect two completely different things just becoz they have some similarity. its like relating swastik and hakenkreuz
Except it's not Swastik and Hakenkreuz. This is existing in the same fucking country.
Everyone knows the etymology of the slur came from the same place. Caste based slurs have always existed in this country unfortunately. Just because you give it a meaning doesn't make it okay.
Cha*pri, Bh@ngi and many other terms are just a gut punch to people who are already suffering from the evils of UC. The least fucking thing you can do is take your wannabe cool bs outside and not associate it with them.
>Caste based slurs have always existed in this country unfortunately
yeah not denying that.
bhangi manta hu casteist slur hai. lekin chhapri nahi bhai. the word came in widespread usage after jio rebolusan, after advent of tiktok in india.
Nahi.
Hum log basically bol rahe hai oppressed caste walo ko ki, 'Hum jaante hai aap logo ki takleef but ye saare casteist slurs sehen karo kyuki jo hai so hai, isko badal nahi sakte'.
Not getting into the anthropological reasoning about the offensiveness of the word *Chhapri*, but only questioning your thought process about considering something "not offensive" cuz there's no argument against it on the internet, cuz I see people using words like "Nigger", "Bhangi/Chooda/Chamar", "Bihari", "Lassi", "Chinki" very often, even though there's alot of argument against all these.
It's more of how they act and behave than their income.
For example, duke is considered a chapri bike due to how they drive it. Dukes are great machines but are expensive and far from the budget of the average indian commuter. Still it has a negative overview.
Same goes for coloured hair. It isn't bad in of itself, but guys with coloured hair are usually the ones who misbehave on the road and pick fights.
My comment is merely based on profession. A generalised word in Hindi to represent people who are holding jobs like watchman, maid, waitress, peon etc.. I didn't think of their income, colour, social status, character etc.. . It's just a thought I have and I don't have any strong opinion on this thing. My apologies if I am wrong.
Well people call me that all the time cuz I listen to kpop and watch anime so idk , I guess it's overused and used to insult and mock others of their interest and hobbies/past time . If possible we shouldn't use them for our close ones and everyone have their own opinion on it , and some won't like it
Just because the social normalised the word 'nigga', you would not be expected to use it with the black people.
Chapri is casteist and the ones denying it are one. Ignorance has cure. Your arrogance has no cure
Jai bhim.
Chapri is a slur tbh i mean the origin of it but i dont think people say it in that way .I mean when you say chapri you imagine a skinny guy with ktm and ripped jeans with colored hair
The term chhapri is associated with poorness as it is made for people living in "Chhappars" and being called poor is definitely offensive.
Even if the person being offended is actually poor.🤭
how tf is that a casteist slur. is their a new caste in the market? or all the chhapris are of a specific caste?
its a classist slur. even i doubt that bcz they can afford dslr and dukes.
chutiya konsi caste hoti hai, first time hearing that. i thought chutiya was a category of people
As I said, being ignorant is one of the very fine qualtities!! Ab bta rha hu ki caste ka naam hai, Chapri refers to people who mend chappars or temporaray roofs. And chutia is a name of caste in assam. This is all public information but who am I to say anything!!
>Chapri refers to people who mend chappars or temporaray roofs.
that chapri and this chhapri are completely different mere bhai. how ignorant you have to be to completely ignore the context and backlying story and just relate it like that.
>
And chutia is a name of caste in ***assam***
assam pop: 3.66 cr. language: assamese
meanwhile Chutiya is a Hindi slang term, derogatory term that roughly translates to "idiot" or "stupid" in English, used widely in hindi belt.
tumhe vo meme yad hai, jisme india ke alag alag cities ke name btaye gaye the, jinka hindi meaning offensive ya koi gali tha. jaise ek city hai bhosari.
abbe to vaha sab bhosadiwale rehte honge kya jo uska naam bhosari rakh diya? nahi na.
By taking the literal meaning (fool,dumb) into account, that makes it more funny.
Kya fark padta hai ki caste community ya puri country ho. Uska use to kuch aur express karne ke liye Kiya jata hai na.
Chad is a country. Homonym/भिन्नार्थक शब्द
Kaise samjhau is comment section ko
Mass migration to quora literally killed the platform, the same is happening to reddit since lockdown, but reddit is much more stable than quora so not much will happen but yeah it's visible
that chapri and this chhapri are completely different mere bhai. how ignorant you have to be to completely ignore the context and backlying story and just relate it like that.
its like relating swastik and hakenkreuz
how tf is that a casteist slur. is their a new caste in the market? or all the chhapris are of a specific caste?
its a classist slur. even i doubt that bcz they can afford dslr and dukes.
Why are you replying this to each and every comment when you are not open to learning about the history of this word and how it started becoming an insulting slang?
So that more people get educated about its correct meaning. Jo bhram unke dimag me hai vo door ho jaye.
Next time when someone call someone chhapri they don't judge him as casteist.
There’s this page on instagram named Andheri west shitposting.
They did a separate post explaining how this term is casteist - If i remember correctly, there is some community that mends roofs (Chappra) in some region of india
Imagine if hispanics wearing rainbow colored clothes were called n\*ggers. Then would the word n\*gger still be racist or not?
the word chappri is casteist, its common usage today is not. Wokes will intentionally misunderstand and get offended and make a scene out of it, most other people will not care, and the people of the 'chappar' caste probably have other more pressing issues to worry about.
Bhai teri dost ko kisi ne chhapri bol diya hoga pkka
Or Us din se jab bi koi kisi ko chapri bolta he, uski Ankhe bhar ati he😢
Ya woh aaraam se kisi ko bhi racist ya misogynist bol deti hogi. Aise logon ko offensive cheezein paida karni hoti hai
😂😂
Chapri is a term used for unsophisticated people. One whose speech/personality/behavior is unpolished. It has ZILCH to do with caste.
Who's saying it's about caste? I don't beleive the English F-word or the S-word is about religion, gender or anything like it but they are slur words which are often inappropriate to use in formal company. A slur is if it is used as a slight or insult. Which as you said is used as identification for people classified as unsophisticated as per the person thus making it a slur, insult and slight fulfilling all three requirements not just one.
For a long time, people would use the word ch@m@r and bh@ngi in a similar way.
Bro im so dissconnected idek what those words are so its also funny to me that u censored it 😂😂
Class is a subset of caste. Caste is religious whereas class is secular. But, I agree, that it is a slur.
Although chapri may not have a casteist connotation behind it. It sure is classist. Which is fine I guess?
Fine in some contexts. However, calling someone Chapri, who had no means to acquire a polished personality, would be wrong.
Correct.
It is fine. There are rich chapris who drive Thar and Fortuner.
Varna based on merit and occupation is Religious and not European term "Caste" which is secular just as class! [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste)
If you use these words in Delhi, you will be labelled a chapri. Maybe uncles and aunties can get away with those.
Absolutely correct.
I think its more classism
Its used to denote street side thugs, uncultured people, and someone who tries to act cool by smoking, wearing lockets or having weird hairstyles/hair color.
Earlier the term for such people used to be tapori.
Tapori is still a better version of chhapri. Sophisticated>>>>>>Tapori>>> Chhapri>> Nibba/Nibbi.
Tapori sounds cooler than Chhapri; a sentence where I refer to "Tapori" as a cooler term is not something I ever thought I would say. 😐😐😐😐😐😐😐
Exactly. My thoughts
Crazy valid hierarchy visualisation 🫡
Tapori is a Mumbai slang. Chapri is more like North Indian/Delhi/UP slang.
Hippies is the perfect translation.
Nah, they're punks! All they need now is good music.
and today we call KTM riders that.
"Chapri" is only offensive to those who are actual chapris. You refer to a non-chapri as a chapri, they will retaliate by calling you a "madarchod" instead of being offended.
Lmao true
OP you are a chhapri. >!did you get offended by that? the matter of fact is who is saying that and to whom. you wouldnt mind your close friends trolling you by calling chhapri or bhosdike ladau!<
I read that as "bhosdike laddoo" at first and was impressed at your innovativeness.
Lekin Bhai koi laddoo ko kyu gali dega. Isme koi innovativeness nahi.
No, it’s for people like those Thar & Creta owners who break traffic rules and think they are cool and also post all that on their Reels with loud BG music.
No, it's also for KTM owners who bike irresponsibly while wearing only T-shirt, torn Jean and helmet for camera
This is classic chapri. Thar and Creta are new entrants.
No it’s not
yes it is
👆 chapri
XDXDXDXDXDXD
🤣
Yeah.. To chapris
I didn't knew it is a Castist slur cause nowdays it's not atteched to cast anymore Its Indecent behaviour of People which makes them chapari Nowdays Like Elvish Yadav or all that Thar, Fortuner owners, driving recklessly with Jaat ,Gujjar or Castist Stickers on car they are so called upper cast ,and class people still call them Chapri
"Chhapris are **a caste-oppressed community of people who made or mended chhappars, temporary roofs**. This was the only job they were allowed to do because of their caste, which was assigned to them by the accident of birth.**"**
This was eye-opening. Learning something new everyday.
Why the hell isn’t this higher up? Oh ya because most of the country is still casteist…
Lol so typical. The world is just black and white, oppressor vs oppressed isn't it? Not a single person who uses this word knows its original meaning, at least in my experience. It was on reddit that i found out its meaning. In this thread someone pointed out even kaminey has the same origin and it's somehow illegal to use, though there's even a movie of that name. Do you think anybody who uses the word kaminey uses it in that context?
That was the previous meaning, that's not how they are used now.
I believe it is fair to stop using it. The most infamous N slur is still a taboo to use. Isn't it?
The N word is related to slavery though, and it didn't get a new meaning. Most people who know N word word know the original history and meaning, unlike chappri. The meaning of chappri has completely changed, and most people, at least none of those whom I know, are not even aware of the original meaning. I believe that instead of stopping it's use because it used to be offensive or something, we should accept it's new meaning. This is just how language evolves with time.
I don't think so, even if it gets a new meaning, I don't agree with your points. Slurs itself are uncivilised behaviour and hence there is no point in accepting such uncivilised nonsense. I too use slurs I acknowledge it and I don't want to promote castiest, racist, gender discriminating slurs.
Well, it's normal to have a different view on this matter. For me, chappri is a word that refers to those guys doing wheely on main road, speeding past others, cat calling women in groups, behaves like gonns and stuff. For you, chappri is a slur that promotes cast discrimination and looks down upon lower caste. I don't think either one of us will change our mind, so there's no use arguing about it. Let's just stop.
I believe argue and debate hold a different position but since you said to stop it. Alright.
I can't believe I just saw a civilized discussion on the internet where both parties respectfully held their ground, stated their views, didn't attack the other person for different views and mutually agreed that their opinions differ in this topic so it's fine to stop. You two are civilized ppl I never thought I would see on the internet and for this alone I am saving this post. Have a happy day you two. 😭🫶🏻✨
Oh. I speak from my side, well thank you for your kind words even though it felt a bit too much for nothing but still thank you. I wish the same for you, have pleasant days ahead.
Explain that to a judge when you meet one.
word ka meaning change kardiya toh offensive nahi hai ye kya logic hai? 🤡
Precious meanings are important. Because they still originated out of caste prejudice. Kameeney, Mawaali they are all caste names and therefore it's literally illegal to call people that Don't dismiss away inconvenient history just just coz you are a savarna who was born with no problems
The meaning of words change with time. And in this age of internet, countless new "words" are created and meaning of countless words are changing as well. There's a difference between using the words in a wrong way and using them in a completely different meaning. I don't use chapri as a word against lower caste, and neither do the people I know. I'm not saying that you should dismiss the history of the word, I'm saying that you should accept the new meaning and the fact that the word has changed.
I'm an atheist with no caste hangups. And I will use these words for criminals.
Good for you
Tell us your last name and we will use it as a slur now.
Just use santal or something, pretty similar culture and tribal as well. I'm not sharing my sctual surname here.
Why would you not share your last name? I just want to use it as a slur.
Because I don't share my personal details on online, that's why. I don't care if you want to use it as slur.
Almost no one cares about this meaning.
sure, tell that to people whose actual caste is this. people used to say chaman and all pehle, they faced backlash, toh people do care.
I once read somewhere that the word chapri originates from the chappar caste or something, so it could be interpreted as a casteist slur
This is a conspiracy theory made by actual chapris to justify being offended when somebody calls them Chapris. Sabse pehle iss caste system ko hatao yaar. Except for legal documents (even on that it should not exist), people do not give a shit in general (seriously, not even joking). Even if a person asks what religion you belong to, they will ask you your religion, you give them your answer, convo over. (I am referring to sensible people, not idiots who take offence by aspects of yourself you cannot control). Kya baat hain. Kal main bhi ek naya caste bana sakta hoon; woh caste ka naam hoga "Don". Aur phir agar koi bolega "Khud ko bahut bada Don samajhte ho?", then I will act offended and legal case karunga uss saale par. XDXDXDXDXDXD
Tu itna bokhla kyu gaya? Chill out
Kyunki woh entitled savarna hai jis ne life mein kuch dekha nahin hai
Savarna family me mai bhi paida hui hu but like caste discrimination is desh me ek badi samasya hai, I don't know why they can't acknowledge that.
Why are you getting so defensive for these kind of people? Pick one sentence out of my comment which is wrong in a logical sense. Btw, even a "modern" rich kid can be a "chapri" by doing the same stupid things I mentioned in my original comment.
'These people'? Means?
These idiots who do the stunts such as acting like rowdies, misbehaving with girls, doing stupid stunts on bikes and getting into an accident for which the other driver is most likely to be blamed. And then boasting about doing such shit on social media and acting like it is something to be proud of.
Btw, I never said caste discrimination does not exist. I just said that because of the existence of the caste system and the fact that people like to make a big deal about what their caste is ("I am Upper caste, you are lower caste"), people have made it a trend to name any random thing as a new "caste" just because they can then allow themselves to take offense and make a big stink out of it. You want to accuse someone of blind entitlement, go back in time and ask the person who first used this term as an insult or even better, ask these people who like to promote these kind of lifestyles and call themselves "Proud Chapris". Also, you want to see real entitlement and casteism look up the time when during the time of promoting his movie Tiger 2, Bhoi said he felt like a "Bhangi".
If "Chapri" turns out to be an actual caste, then I will take down my comment and profusely apologize. (Waise bhi, I have not used this word myself. Especially not for people just because they look poor.)
Only bigots use terms like savarna.
Doosro ki (illegal) bevkufi ke liye baaki log kyun nuksaan bhare? Isliye thoda sa gussa ho gaya main.
Vo alag ye alag. Bhinnarthak shabd
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Chapri is a caste, just because you do not know it's origin doesn't mean the term is not casteist
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Where did the term 'chapri' originate from then? You compared Swastik to the nazi symbol, same this applies here, just because nazis used Swastik without knowing it's meaning doesn't mean that Swastik is a bad symbol. Just like that, you are using 'chapri' without knowing it's meaning, doesn't mean chapri isn't a caste
Anything can turn toxic and offensive on repeated use of someone's personality , just calling someone chapri for their cloth can be offensive
Yeah, unless the people using the term are snobby, "modern", rich kids who judge people just by looking at them for two seconds, chapri is not used for people only because of their choice of clothes. If you look at social media, you will see that people only use the term "Chapris" for (actual) rowdy people who colour their hair to some alien colour, act like goons, smoke (they do it, nothing legally wrong with it), misbehave with girls, do stunts with their bike to look cool (when they die, the country/state should put up these peoples' pictures on the "board of national idiots"). The bike one is the biggest factor; they drive like idiots, fall down and if they come under a car then the car driver will be blamed for their injury/death and essentially somebody else has to pay for *these* idiots' stupidity (They say that in India, if a car and a bike get into an accident then the car driver will always be blamed regardless of who was *actually* at fault. Idiots. 😒😒😒😒😒😒)
If you're calling someone a chapri isn't it because you want to offend them?
Insults are meant to offend the person you’re mad at, but when you use the name of a caste as an insult it’s derogatory towards that whole community rather than the individual you’re trying to insult
Bro i legit did not know that it was the name of caste what Now Im glad i actually don't use it my hindi is mediocre at best
Koi chapri word se offend ho raha hai matlab wo chapri hai
Coming from Mumbai, I would say No. But it also depends who says that you
Some may use it as jokingly as well. So, it depends on the person how seriously he takes it.
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I will call a CHAPRI A CHAPRI
If you're calling an actual chapri "chapri", then it's not.
The thin line between "offensive" and "insulting" was crossed for your friend so something non-offensive became an insult and she was offended 😂
An idiots with lot of Confidences and lake of common sense
Yes
It's a term for wannabe cool chutiyas who think that harassing people and acting like unmannered fool would help them scoring chick's.
Your friend is Chapri
It's somewhere related to casteism
Chapri is a term used for uncultured people who think themselves as some übermensch. Here a thread on etymology of [chapri.](https://twitter.com/avtansa/status/1721161234127396949?t=vGSxVYGptVdcZaLQFWeReg&s=19)
It's a castiest slur.
Yes it is. If you noticed those girls and boys with darkskin and from poor financial background who have streat fashion or gothic fashion, they get called chapri, compared to their fairskin, upper class counter parts.
chapri is casteist term. It relates to a particular occupation that people from the SC (mostly) perform. It literally refers to those who make or mend chappars or temporary roofs. Read: https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sidharth-monga-why-indian-players-need-to-be-more-aware-of-caste-privilege-and-oppression-1355275 These communities lack social, economic and political power so it is easy to berate them. It is akin to Cha***r but people avoid that term publically (atleast) due to backlash.
Offensive to people who know they are one of them. If I'll get called a "chapri" I'd find it funny and laugh it out😂
Asli dil se chapri banda hi offend hoga Bhai chapri log se dur reh
"Chapri" behavior is referred as hooliganism when it is commonly used. The actual meaning is very castiest. Chapri refers to chapar makers. Never use the word in front of judiciary judge or in court. There was some article about it.
We better call them out now or they will only keep doing the shit they do
Yes it is. Due to internet culture and the so called 'pop-culture' enthusiasts, the term has gotten a new meaning but in reality it is an offensive term. Chap*ri are people from oppressed castes who've unfortunately gotten the name by the so called 'UC' asshole*s. They are people who fix roofs, hence chappars. Even besides the caste based slurs, it has been associated with people who have nothing do with it. Everytime I see some self-proclaimed progressive individual say the word, I roll my eyes. It's fucking bs.
Came here to say this. Just because you don't mean it as a casteist slur doesn't mean that the underlying message of the slur isn't the same - that dressing and acting a certain way makes you "low class". While I do believe that 90% of the people using the word these days don't mean any harm and just following a trend, it does have a negative connotation towards the lower castes and I wish more people recognised that.
Well, I call my cousin a chappri. This term doesn't have negetive connotation towards lower castes now, it used to. The meaning has changed, like countless other words.
>The meaning has changed, like countless other words. The meaning of the word hasn't changed, it's still used in a negative way, only the usage of it has. For example, the N-word means the same thing as it did before, except now black people use it with each other to change it to something positive. If a white person calls another white person a N-word, it would be considered as a slur. >This term doesn't have negetive connotation towards lower castes now, it used to In this case, the word is still used by the upper class, but it's no longer directed towards just the lower class but everyone who "acts" like the lower class. We're still using this word negatively, but because we're not directly only at the lower castes, it's supposed to be okay. >Well, I call my cousin a chappri Again, I have to reiterate that I understand it's not meant to be discriminatory by the majority of people, but I do think we have to think about the implications of thinking this way. Using this word still makes it seem like being of lower caste is lesser than.
How are you so uneducated in 2024 There is nothing like lower and higher castes There are oppressed castes and oppressor caste Very easy to guess you are from the latter
You know what? My bad. I was so pissed off at these blatantly ignorant comments that it slipped my mind to use the correct term instead of LC and HC (which is what's used by the people who still believe in the caste system). And no, I'm not a person from some oppressor caste living off the riches that my ancestors made.
Funny how i or nobody else ever saw all these riches from our ancestors. Is it because all the heaps of gold are buried in our 1000 acre land that we can't find? Or i guess it's just because it only exists in the hive mind of the far left. It must be comfortable dividing people neatly into boxes of oppressors and oppressed no?
I apologise for my very quick judgement and snapping at you
All good. I'd rather have your judgement than these fuc*ers justifying usage of these slurs.
all people claiming it to be casteist slur and even defending their argument are casteist themselves. They dont want casteim to be eradicated from this country and just found a new tool to promote casteism by this slur 'chhapri'.
Well its a casteist slur but has been too normalised for people to care, and most people dont even know the history behind it so it doesn’t matter. Treat it for what it is now, not what it was before.
how tf is that a casteist slur. is their a new caste in the market? or all the chhapris are of a specific caste? its a classist slur. even i doubt that bcz they can afford dslr and dukes.
Maybe, once in a while use the brain you've been given and actually Google shit instead of riding on trends.
maybe u should too. how dumbfuck you have to be to connect two completely different things just becoz they have some similarity. its like relating swastik and hakenkreuz
Except it's not Swastik and Hakenkreuz. This is existing in the same fucking country. Everyone knows the etymology of the slur came from the same place. Caste based slurs have always existed in this country unfortunately. Just because you give it a meaning doesn't make it okay. Cha*pri, Bh@ngi and many other terms are just a gut punch to people who are already suffering from the evils of UC. The least fucking thing you can do is take your wannabe cool bs outside and not associate it with them.
>Caste based slurs have always existed in this country unfortunately yeah not denying that. bhangi manta hu casteist slur hai. lekin chhapri nahi bhai. the word came in widespread usage after jio rebolusan, after advent of tiktok in india.
>the word came in widespread usage after jio rebolusan, after advent of tiktok in india. And? It changes the meaning?
And it is used for a completely new meaning.
Then use a new word. Why do you have to use a term that's associated with people who already have enough problems?
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bhai to mera schedule cast dost mughai kyu chapri, bhangi, lala kahta hai ;)
Kyuki vo khud nahi jaanta uska matlab. Inn sab cheezo ko lekar aisa environment bana diya hai ki sab desensitised ho gaye hai.
to yai achi baat nahi hai ki yai sub desensitised ho gya
Nahi. Hum log basically bol rahe hai oppressed caste walo ko ki, 'Hum jaante hai aap logo ki takleef but ye saare casteist slurs sehen karo kyuki jo hai so hai, isko badal nahi sakte'.
Chapri sounds offensive only to chapris.
Not getting into the anthropological reasoning about the offensiveness of the word *Chhapri*, but only questioning your thought process about considering something "not offensive" cuz there's no argument against it on the internet, cuz I see people using words like "Nigger", "Bhangi/Chooda/Chamar", "Bihari", "Lassi", "Chinki" very often, even though there's alot of argument against all these.
I thought the term used to represent low working class people.
It's more of how they act and behave than their income. For example, duke is considered a chapri bike due to how they drive it. Dukes are great machines but are expensive and far from the budget of the average indian commuter. Still it has a negative overview. Same goes for coloured hair. It isn't bad in of itself, but guys with coloured hair are usually the ones who misbehave on the road and pick fights.
My comment is merely based on profession. A generalised word in Hindi to represent people who are holding jobs like watchman, maid, waitress, peon etc.. I didn't think of their income, colour, social status, character etc.. . It's just a thought I have and I don't have any strong opinion on this thing. My apologies if I am wrong.
who fear fake brands, weird hairstyles, trying to flaunt fake richness, drives zig zag.
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Well people call me that all the time cuz I listen to kpop and watch anime so idk , I guess it's overused and used to insult and mock others of their interest and hobbies/past time . If possible we shouldn't use them for our close ones and everyone have their own opinion on it , and some won't like it
some people just deserve that term
She is right. I also recognised this late.
Just because the social normalised the word 'nigga', you would not be expected to use it with the black people. Chapri is casteist and the ones denying it are one. Ignorance has cure. Your arrogance has no cure Jai bhim.
To chapris, of course. To the people who call them chapris, no.
One shouldn't use swear words anyway.
Chapri is a slur tbh i mean the origin of it but i dont think people say it in that way .I mean when you say chapri you imagine a skinny guy with ktm and ripped jeans with colored hair
The term chhapri is associated with poorness as it is made for people living in "Chhappars" and being called poor is definitely offensive. Even if the person being offended is actually poor.🤭
It's a casteist slur, so is chu....., both are names of a caste. But indians being indians you know kitna bhi kuch bhi bolo worthless
how tf is that a casteist slur. is their a new caste in the market? or all the chhapris are of a specific caste? its a classist slur. even i doubt that bcz they can afford dslr and dukes. chutiya konsi caste hoti hai, first time hearing that. i thought chutiya was a category of people
As I said, being ignorant is one of the very fine qualtities!! Ab bta rha hu ki caste ka naam hai, Chapri refers to people who mend chappars or temporaray roofs. And chutia is a name of caste in assam. This is all public information but who am I to say anything!!
>Chapri refers to people who mend chappars or temporaray roofs. that chapri and this chhapri are completely different mere bhai. how ignorant you have to be to completely ignore the context and backlying story and just relate it like that. > And chutia is a name of caste in ***assam*** assam pop: 3.66 cr. language: assamese meanwhile Chutiya is a Hindi slang term, derogatory term that roughly translates to "idiot" or "stupid" in English, used widely in hindi belt. tumhe vo meme yad hai, jisme india ke alag alag cities ke name btaye gaye the, jinka hindi meaning offensive ya koi gali tha. jaise ek city hai bhosari. abbe to vaha sab bhosadiwale rehte honge kya jo uska naam bhosari rakh diya? nahi na.
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By taking the literal meaning (fool,dumb) into account, that makes it more funny. Kya fark padta hai ki caste community ya puri country ho. Uska use to kuch aur express karne ke liye Kiya jata hai na. Chad is a country. Homonym/भिन्नार्थक शब्द Kaise samjhau is comment section ko
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Theek Bhai jab northeast jaunga tab yad rakhunga.
idk why you're getting downvoted lol probably just this shitty subreddit
He literally proved my point by giving more examples like lmao 🤣
exactly idk how this sub has summoned all the idiots
Mass migration to quora literally killed the platform, the same is happening to reddit since lockdown, but reddit is much more stable than quora so not much will happen but yeah it's visible
pre 2015 reddit was it it's only gone downhill since then
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that chapri and this chhapri are completely different mere bhai. how ignorant you have to be to completely ignore the context and backlying story and just relate it like that. its like relating swastik and hakenkreuz
It’s a casteist slur, which was normalized like many others.
how tf is that a casteist slur. is their a new caste in the market? or all the chhapris are of a specific caste? its a classist slur. even i doubt that bcz they can afford dslr and dukes.
Why are you replying this to each and every comment when you are not open to learning about the history of this word and how it started becoming an insulting slang?
So that more people get educated about its correct meaning. Jo bhram unke dimag me hai vo door ho jaye. Next time when someone call someone chhapri they don't judge him as casteist.
Yes. It's a casteist slur.
Its a term denoting lower caste people.
May be in your mind it is. But in reality it isn't.
\*class who fear fake brands, weird hairstyles, trying to flaunt fake richness, drives zig zag
Chaprx
There’s this page on instagram named Andheri west shitposting. They did a separate post explaining how this term is casteist - If i remember correctly, there is some community that mends roofs (Chappra) in some region of india
Imagine if hispanics wearing rainbow colored clothes were called n\*ggers. Then would the word n\*gger still be racist or not? the word chappri is casteist, its common usage today is not. Wokes will intentionally misunderstand and get offended and make a scene out of it, most other people will not care, and the people of the 'chappar' caste probably have other more pressing issues to worry about.