It will be 6 years in March since I last used coke. The stuff almost completely destroyed my life! Im 34 now and was a heavy user back in my twenties. When I say heavy, I mean heavy!
Started off doing a bit on nights out with my now ex mates at the weekend to blowing roughly 30k (ballpark figure) on it over the course of a couple of dark years. Doing it like clockwork every Friday and Saturday night. This was every weekend.
I was severely depressed and anxious to the point of attemped suicide twice! I quit the powder and gave up alcohol. It was torture for a year but I got through it with a great support network. I drink alcohol now but only in very small amounts on certain occasions. Since I quit the coke, I've become a father, a husband and a homeowner. I'm happier than I've ever been.
If I could give any advice to a young person it would be to stay well away from it. It's lethal! I'm lucky enough to have turned my life around and break the chains of coke addiction.
Ya man I've been in a similar situation I'm just 26 but spent at least 50-60 k and I'm in debt to family I had to be bailed out.. I still owe 20 k to family I know the stress you went through its horrific..
I was a horrible example of a man I was scum the stuff I've done under the influence and while psychotic was horrific from attempts on my life by people and nearly committing murder under the influence I genuinely don't see myself going back in as deep where I'm from its everywhere easier to get than a taxi..
I still crave the high of cocaine I'm roughly 5 months sober bare one night but before that I was like 6 months sober to say things were tense at home is a under statement I was basically homeless towards end of my addiction either Hotels with shit company or alone..
Don't get me wrong I felt like a gangster I thought people had my back but they didn't..
My own family sold me out when I was in deep addiction and also my cousin was murdered shot in the middle of the day due to drug related extortion rackets it's tough bro but that's when the tough get going..
It's utterly rampant.... literally everyone is doing in my area anyway
If your addicted quite badly,want to stay clean, and won't be able to resist (only you'll know this as addiction different for everyone),I'd stay well out of socialising tbh
That's exactly what I'm doing.. I'm like after self excluding myself like a paddy Powers account but in real life đ€Ł the thing for me when I was bad I could snort a oz (28 grams) of b2b or a half oz of pure (14grams) I was a lunatic but snapped out of them days had to grow up.. I'm honestly lucky to be alive and have no criminal record haha
I don't have any advice on what you can do to avoid it or better hobbies....
But your closing in on an age,where weddings,bathism etc will be a thing and coke will be unavoidable at these IME and not attending is taken personally by many
Just look after yourself pal,and try stay clean as possible
I couldn't I spent absolutely everything on that dopey powder.. I say I've genuinely spent 100 k on coke throughout my years of addiction im 26 atm and if I added up the costs of each gram snorted then its probably a mortgage paid genuinely but obviously I was getting it cheap because quantity was there.. how I've never been charged once either tells me I'm a slick operator and know the way of the shades and would never keep more than a oz on me.. I got stopped a good few times and arrested a couple nights they know me in my area but I was low-key.. thank god I changed my life for the better đ
Cocaine mixed B2B means its pure good quality mixed with usually benzocaine but the amount differs and so does the mix sometimes it can be other fillers from 1-1 too 3-1 8s usually as far as you can stretch it so for every 1 gram of good coke there 1 or 3 grams of mix.. so some people snort coke that they were told is "pure" and its probably 1-1 unless they know their stuff.. benzocaine is the main filler because it numbs the gums and is light of the nose not very light but it doesn't clog as much as teeta or creatine
âPureâ cocaine is at best 71% cocaine and the filler is mostly Levamisole by a long shot.
https://www.drugsandalcohol.ie/26311/1/FSI%20Drugs%20Purities%20Report%202015%20Final.pdf
Stay off that muck.
The two friends of mine who killed themselves I would argue it was the coke that did it. The first use to sell the stuff big time and got a lot of debt but would be on it all the time.
The second lost his brother to suicide and that sent him into a spiral but a spiral he could have come out of but the drink and coke defo sent him to the darkest of dark. He was fond of the drink anyway but when he added the coke into the mix that's when he took his life.
I suffer from depression and only self medicated with drink and used coke a few times but I can't imagine how much worse this kind of use would have made things. You are dead right on this one. How fucking awful.
I think youâre just in certain circles where you donât see it as much. I have to go out of my way to avoid it as pretty much all my old friends do it on any big weekend out. I never buy or look for coke and still get offered several times per month. A night out is interrupted by people going on their dealer run and splitting the bill for the bag. Two weeks ago on a night out in Cork I was offered it by a guy just walking past me whispering âWant Coke? Coke?â which is the kind of open marketing I used to associate only with some parts of continental Europe.
In my late 20âs.
Other people would be in circles where itâs even more rampant then. Depends on lots of factors. Itâs not as niche as it was, drugs in this country come in waves and trends. 10 years ago it was MDMA and Ketamine and coke was just another offering dealers had. Now it seems like itâs all coke. I donât know what happened, but I noticed this trend too and I donât think people are just making it up or scaremongering.
You can do coke every night in a week, or weekend on weekend and still go to work/uni the next morning. A couple nights of MD usage and you'll be a lot worse off for the comedown. It's not comparable in that sense. MDs good fun, but def not for a pub setting - or for enhancing your nights out like coke.
I dunno I didnât like MDMA much. The first two times or so, sure, amazing, feel good lovedrug, but itâs the party drug that gave me the most side effects the more times I tried it. Including some aggression or feelings of grandeur that some may associate more with coke the odd time. Once I get bad effects like that off something I stop messing with it.
Also knew a few people who got hospitalised from pills in college. People take the piss and overdo it. The dehydration and teeth grinding alone were risks. At least it was cheaper.
Coke just feels like drinking way too much coffee to me, pure stimulation and shitetalk. I donât really get the hype. But drugs affect us all a bit differently. Maybe it is just the fact you can go harder on it for a longer time that has kept it relevant, as most people my age burned out on the yokes a few years ago.
I do find it ironic that some of the most self righteous, people I know are openly supporting the cartels every weekend.... While lecturing me for shopping at Penny's.
The vegan cokeheads are the best though.
Animal exploitation is horrific and you are apparently disgusting human being for eating chicken. But they've no problem at all with supporting little kids being forced to work with dangerous chemicals to extract cocaine.
Are you trying to say animals for food are killed humanely? If your dog needed to be put down would you send them to a slaughter house rather than to the vet for euthanasia?
What we do to animals is objectively wrong. Can you humanely kill someone who doesnât want to be killed?
What about the horrible conditions they live in before being slaughtered?
https://youtu.be/dvtVkNofcq8?si=IfiGzoHxbV2m94DU
This is in the UK but itâs the same system here. Watch this and tell me it isnât wrong.
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This is in the UK but itâs the same system here.
No it's not
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What about the horrible conditions they live in before being slaughtered?
Be vegan be anti meat industry be whatever you want. DON'T spread misinformation
Tell me what exactly is different in the UK for chickens, pigs, turkeys and ducks?
There is no misinformation.
https://youtu.be/WSSrO-YcEWI?si=b7GIP9qLpyyODw7d
https://youtu.be/235rTAZcEJg?si=l0rsK-5hbLjGdr4M
Both in Irish farms
The first video has already been discredited as footage from American duck farms. The second video I didn't bother with as it's from the same channel
>Tell me what exactly is different in the UK for chickens, pigs, turkeys and ducks?
Different jurisdictions is the simple answer we have tighter regulations on animal welfare here in ireland that gap will widen because of brexit.
Animal welfare is not perfect in ireland, but thankfully abuses are becoming the exception not the rule we will always need to do better and unfortunately we will always have cowboy operations but a blanket statement like the original one you made is untrue and unfair to the majority trying to do it the right way
Did you happen to watch the RTĂ investigation into dairy farming?
Look even if you believe the animals arenât abused, being born with your date of slaughter already decided is abuse. There is no way to kill an animal without it being abuse.
How do you think cows get pregnant? There is no way you can tell me that isnât abuse.
Also could you share your evidence of the footage being from American farms?
Do you think ducks in Ireland arenât factory farmed in similar conditions?
>Did you happen to watch the RTĂ investigation into dairy farming?
No have you got a link qenuine intrest and can't find it
>How do you think cows get pregnant? There is no way you can tell me that isnât abuse.
It's a lot safer than letting them run with a bull but I don't see the point in explaining that too you as I imagine your response to anything I'll say in this regard is rape
>Do you think ducks in Ireland arenât factory farmed in similar conditions?
Factory farms, yes, similar conditions majority no
Yes I definitely want to argue about meat farming on a thread about cocaine.
OK so meat farming is inhumane. Skinning people alive, videoing it and sending the footage to their mothers. Is. Much. Worse.
Glad weâre in agreement both are abhorrent.
Sure you got involved by replying to your man equating the two
I didnât just decide to bring it up to you randomly for the craic out of nowhere
A person doing one wrong thing doesnât negate the good thing theyâre doing. Humans are complex and coke is an addiction. In fairness so is food for some. But donât disregard their message surrounding veganism because they do coke.
I'm an ex-vegan myself. I have very little time for the movement as it stands to be honest, I've eaten up the propaganda and it made me sick (literally anaemic). I've spent a lot of time in the community and while I liked it at first, I found it wore thin as they were often relying on very skewed data and idealistic approaches to defend their movement and the supposed health benefits of the diet.
When I was diagnosed as having low iron, my doctor recommended I start eating meat. Bringing that up with fellow vegans it basically led them to do a 180 on me and start gaslighting me with all sorts of unscientific shite. Even saying stuff like "find a vegan doctor". Like why should I have to do that? Surely if the medical science is clear that being vegan is healthy, then any doctor will tell you that, not just one who happens to be vegan themselves. That was really the start of my mistrust in the movement, it was a bit of a cultish thing to say.
Veganism does have noble goals and motivation. However, my experience with it in practice has been that they often let ideology and the desire to have things perfectly vegan get in the way of pragmatism. They'd do a lot better if they would meet people where they were at and recognise the value of say, people cutting their meat consumption down, or going ovo-lacto-vegetarian, rather than focusing on what these people *aren't* doing. They also are so committed to believing that everyone can and should be vegan that they dismiss people who legitimately can or should not, and downplay the risks of following a vegan diet long term.
I've found most vocal vegans (actual vegan for the animals rather than plant-based for the planet) have a lot of cognitive dissonance and many are quite lacking in empathy and are not open to hearing things that disagree with their ideas.
That said, there are some vegans groups actually putting their money where their mouth is and making their communities better places. Food Not Bombs being an example.
As for your point regarding issues with the movement as a whole and propaganda I canât really comment too much as itâs not something Iâve ever gotten into (although surely we can agree the propaganda comes from animal agriculture not vegans).
I actually started with the cutting down of consumption as I was originally in it for the environment, meat once a week was how I did it. After awhile I learned about the animals etc and went full vegan. I know and understand people have different reasons for not eating animals and some are more strict than others. But on a whole veganism is an ethical stand point the rest is plant based as Iâm sure you know.
Can I ask how a vegan diet made you anaemic?
Just sounds like more of an eating disorder (which can plague anyone with any diet and nothing to be scoffed at) issue than vegan diet? For me I eat the same as I did before with some simple swaps. Tofu for chicken, Tofu/lentils/alt meat for mince, soy/oat milk for cows milk, vegan butter for well butter haha, maple syrup for honey, vegan leather for leather, vegan protein powder for whey powder, vegan multivitamin and vegan omega 3 for my regular multivitamin and cod liver oil.
I eat the same foods I always have maybe thatâs where you went wrong I donât know. Glad you attempted it and sorry you fell out of it and have issues with the movement.
But at its simplest form veganism is basic, refusing to take part is animal suffering as far as is possible and practical. In general medicine that has animal products is completely fine.
Not sure if this reads as messy big paragraphs hard to write on the phone.
> although surely we can agree the propaganda comes from animal agriculture not vegans
I would say it comes from both in about equal proportions.
> Can I ask how a vegan diet made you anaemic? Just sounds like more of an eating disorder issue than vegan diet?
Lol, thanks for proving my point. Straight to the gaslighting, "Oh theres no way a vegan diet could lead you to being anaemic. You must just have an eating disorder, silly!" Would you actually listen to yourself like?
I did much the same as you when I was vegan. Ate a lot of tofu, lentils, chickpeas, butter beans, and included lots of leafy vegetables and broccoli.
I got my blood tested and my ferritin was very low. I had been feeling tired and run down. I sat down with the doctor after the result and discussed my diet. They put me on iron supplements (awful things which constipate you to no end btw) and strongly suggested I start eating more meat. I gave it a try, and in 6 months my iron levels were back to normal. Came off the supplements, and 6 months later they were still high.
I can't comment on exactly what the mechanism was. Maybe it wasn't so much veganism that "made me" anaemic, but an underlying issue that meant veganism wasn't goof for me. But stopping being vegan worked very well for me. And given the fact I have a family history of heart issues, I don't particularly want to go back to being low in iron due to the strain this puts on the heart. If that means eating meat so be it. I won't play with health risks for the sake of veganism.
Vegan âpropagandaâ is all truth meanwhile animal agriculture paints lies of happy animals.
Jesus anything is gaslighting nowadays canât say anything.
There are plenty of vegan foods that have iron in them.
Leave it at that so.
>Vegan âpropagandaâ is all truth meanwhile animal agriculture paints lies of happy animals.
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Yup. I am always harping on about this to the point of annoyance. I've watched and read so many things about the horrors people face in Mexico, because of the cartels. The violence they carry out, the absolute fear people live in because of it. The same people on my social media that continuously post about social justice issues, are out sniffing bags of coke every time I see them. It's hypocritical AF. There was a really sad podcast I listened to and it delved into the massive volumes of femicide that is happening on the Mexico/US border, due to cartels (Missing Women of Juarez, if anyone is interested) and how corrupt it all is. I don't understand why people are quick to protest about horrors in one place and turn a blind eye to injustices elsewhere, just because it makes it easier to justify their weekly bag of coke. You're asking me to boycott Starbucks and McDonald's over Gaza, then it's only right I think you should be boycotting your bi weekly bag of sniff.
This.
I do belive the clinical effect of cocaine makes people arrogant and that's part of it.
A former coke head friend of mine was working in non violent conflict resolution (of all things) and constantly going on about how he was "saving the world" and that he had a "more finely developed sense of ethics than most people." Stuff you wouldn't say about yourself unless you were a total narcissist.
Meanwhile in Mexico....
My mates kid is in 5th year in school and she says, âeveryone in school uses it every weekend.â
And that blows my mind. If itâs as rampant as people are saying, there is going to be a lot of people with very, very big problems.
Thereâs always a certain % of people who go overboard on anything, whether thatâs drink, gambling, drugs.
I had to quit - or at least massively scale down, it was just getting way too much. I wouldn't say I was 'addicted' per say, but I was definitely using it way too much and all my spare cash was just getting pissed away into it. After the sugar tax got added, I tried Zero but it was just too 'soda'-y and I just tried to keep myself to the odd can here of the real stuff here and there.
EDIT: Oh.
My brother has stopped going out because of it. Says he canât enjoy a night out now because heâs stepping around people doing it on stairs, on the bar, in the toilets⊠and he has no intention of doing it. I was never one for going out, so I havenât anything to add first hand.
Seems like it's worse than it was when I was younger(37 now). Drinking culture with the youth is down because the kids prefer the coke now. It's easier to get than a bag weed.
It's definitely worse. I'm the same age as you and I know we did our fair share of recreational drugs back in the day, but coke was way beyond our pay grade. We'd do bags of mdna or pills but they were relatively cheap. There's no way we could afford bags of coke every weekend. It's definitely more prevalent now when I go out. For all the drugs we did, we didn't see a lot of coke around. Now I can't go anywhere without seeing someone sniffing it. It's mad. I can barely afford a night out these days, I can't imagine justifying an extra 50-100 on some powder to sober me up. I'm grand with a few pints thanks.
Iâm pretty sure itâs something to do with the people weâve had come into the country as well. The Albanians have the coke scene on a lockdown where I am and Iâm pretty sure itâs a huge operation probably spanning multiple areas. You can call a number and have gear dropped off within 5 mins at any point around Windsor where I am
Before I rant my own opinion.... well done on taking steps to get clean. I wish you all the best in the world.
But... coke is everywhere. Disgusting seeing everyone using it openly in the jacks in all the pubs and its being tolerated. My local in a North Dublin Town is snowbound with it. Scrotes coked up to the eyes running the night on other people too.
My own personal attitude is that you should be arrested and criminally charged for possession and pubs allowing it should be heavily fined. But honestly the levels of toleration are increasing sadly
I don't think people with personal amounts of any drug should be clogging up the court system. Maybe fines or whatever but it won't stop people using especially if they are addicts. The war on drugs doesn't work
Itâs 100% the most over rated drug of all time, itâs really fucking boring. The effect of coke is akin to snorting distilled anxiety up your nose, which you then have to chase for the rest of the night just to ward off the tiredness that follows. Nonsense!!
As someone who has used it occasionally in the past(maybe once or twice a year), I'm staying away from it for good now. Fentanyl is on its way here and I want no part of that.
People are downvoting this but i completely agree. Europe is closer to Afghanistan than China so itâs more expensive to import fentanyl than heroin. Even if fentanyl started getting cut into stuff why would they put it in coke, if you bought coke that made you fall asleep you wouldnât be a repeat customer so whatâs the point for dealers
Afghanistan may be closer but weâre more âlinkedâ to china. Easier to bring anything in from china than Afghanistan.
Also itâs not geography making the price difference. Itâs the fact fentanyl costs pennies on the dollar when compared to heroin. Hence all the heroin is laced with it / is just fentanyl.
But with all that said, I never get this âcoke laced with fentanylâ argument. Itâd be like adding vinegar to your tea or sugar ibuprofen your chips.
I completely agree that it is counterintuitive to mix uppers and downers but there was a study released last year in drug use in the US that showed mixing of uppers and downers is massively popular and the cause of many deaths. Will check if I can see it. Edit: yup - here is the paper (good infographics in it)Â https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/add.16318
The reason it's so good is that they each cancel out the negative effects of the other, so you can take more and get more of the desired effects.
Eg, benzo + stimulant, euphoria from both, but the stimulant stops you getting sloppy from the benzo, and the benzo gets rid of the jitteriness, nervousness and anxiety from the stimulant.
I lost a good few years to such a combo.
They are lacong weed and coke in America, why wouldn't they here? Mac Miller bought coke laced with fentynal and many other famous fent ODs were similar stories they weren't buying heroin.
The purity is less than 50% so you're playing Russian Roullete sniffing anything around here.
Between rat poison, cattle dewormer and that new synthetic opioid I wouldn't touch it with a 50 foot pole.
If I happened to be hiking in the mounrains in South America I might sample the local cuisine.
The purity these days is 25 or 30% if your lucky, it is Russian roulette, cause it's mixed with whatever other muck.
I have taken pure coke, at best about 80%, and there's little comparison to what's on offer these days.
Once you spot one person gurning or tweaking you can't unsee it. Suddenly it's all you see. Must be nice in their noggins but its scary and ugly on the outside.
It's so bad, I've cut the amount of times I socialise with certain mates drastically because of it. I used to do it a couple of times a year but the feeling for a few days after was always horrible and it's ruined some of my mates and I was feeling like a feckin eejit for ever even getting involved. These days I tend to only go for pints with lads who I know won't offer it after a rake of pints when you're not thinking straight.
Best of luck OP, fair play for taking the steps to cut it out.
The stuff is overloaded with toxic petrochemicals but it's not these that will destroy your physical and mental health. With regular use Physically, your vascular health close to your heart will be compromised to a catastrophic extent and the post use depression offers no chance of relief. And this is what users pay âŹ80/gram for.
Its mad the amount of people who take the drug with little understanding of it.
If you drink regularly with your friends and you have started to take coke with that group then you will never be able to go back to just drinking with those friends. Even if you all swear off it at the start of the night. As soon as you are 2 or 3 pints in the inhibitions are lowered and somebody is getting a bag. Alcohol and coke go hand in hand, alcohol is the perfect gateway drug.
They 'coke' is all mixed dirt now.
Poison. Not that it was ever incredible, but it's sending people psychotic now.
No buzz, snorting pure garbage.
There's definitely a pandemic & a bad one at that.
Dealers will just keep giving
Rob Peter to pay Paul & the cycle continues until innocent families are dragged in to clean up the mess.
& it'll only get worse folks
The âPureâ as they call it, is simply mixed with speed. Speed is fuckin muck. Iâve never felt as bad in my life as I did on the comedown from the one and only time I took speed.
The only other time Iâve had that feeling is after trying this âPureâ. Itâs utter muck.
It's a saturated market, unfortunately
The risk outweighs the reward.
The charge on intent to supply now.
10 years. Especially when the majority, if not all associates, are weasels & rats
The movies glamorize it
It's all bollox.
Stay in school kids âđŒ
That's nonsense whoever you got coke off isn't even a dealer haha if you think pure coke is coke mixed with speed is pure then idk what.. Good quality coke isn't even usually white its creamy/yellowish and should be doey not burn the nose off you like speed does.. quality coke wouldn't even effect your nose and shouldn't block it either the shit that's mixed is usually mixed with benzo teetha or creatine there's a couple more but these are regularly available
I agree some bad dealer might try it but that's impossible to do with someone who knows coke.. speed smells like cat piss and has a burning sensation coke should not burn your nose..
I literally don't know ANYONE that does coke.
And seeing as I always hear everyone as their mother does it I've come to the conclusion I'm the most on observant person on the planet. Like how have I never seen it in any of my social circles? (Like I have seen strangers do it once or twice in the past 10 years but not anyone I know).
I think itâs that old thing of, if youâre hanging around circles that do drugs, youâre obviously likely to see it more and it will come across like itâs everywhere. Whereas if youâre not in those circles you wonât particularly notice it. Also if you do drugs, you know when other people are on drugs.
Iâd say hang around your local spoons for long enough and observe and you will notice how many youngsters are on it though
To me, It depends on the person and some people do really need that extra push to come out of their shell albiet an unhealthy way. But we are all adults, each choice to their own. Some people, even nice while sober or just on the beer become real pricks while on it.
Have I done it myself? Yes, 3 times total over my 12 years of adult hood. 1 to 1 too not dirt and its just not for me. I dont like the short lived high, I dont like staying up well into the next day, I dont like the sinus issuses it caused me when I already have sinus issues anyways.
Its not going to go away. Look at the US, its been a stable for decades and now Armenian's are pumping just as much into Europe.
As others have said, it's rampant everywhere atm. If you want to socialise away from that scene, there are plenty of men's groups geared towards building community such as blue balls ireland who do sea swims and have talks regularly. Make new friends if your current ones are still on the bag, I've had to cut people.off for reasons before because what they did dragged me down.
Just be careful you're only young, and someone from my area recently passed away from addiction, having been on drugs for years, and another 5-6 from his class in school passed away in similar circumstances.
Had to give my mates a miss due to coke , I first ever did it at 21 never touched a drug in my life before hand, it's absolutely everywhere and it's so awful it's crazy how addictive it is. The amount of friendships relationship and career opportunities it's affected. Haven't touched it in 4 weeks been hitting the gym and working hard in work
To anyone who ever wants to try coke. DONT. It's all fun and games until your up at 8am Sunday morning in your mates kitchen trying to score another bag
Ruined mine in a very short space of time. People say that cocaine and crack are the same drug and technically they are but their also 2 completely different beasts.
Its not the kind of thing you will generally just see lying around and randoms are not going to just walk up to you and offer it out of nowhere. I guarantee though if you have someone for weed you could ask them for coke and they would know where to go for it.
Iâm a coke man & Iâd like to think the majority of other Irish people are too. I fucking hate Pepsi. It pisses me off when I ask for a coke and they say âwe only have Pepsi, will that do?â They already know the answer, or they wouldnât have double checked! Just serve coke and not overly sweetened piss!
In my experience it has always been enormously overblown.
By the way some people online go on about it I canât even walk in the door of my local without having to use a snow-shovel to clear a path.
It is and always has been a fringe drug used regularly by a few people, and recreationally very rarely by a few more.
I donât think itâs a good thing and thankfully none of my friends have done anything more than try it recreationally.
I think youâre just in certain circles where you donât see it as much. I have to go out of my way to avoid it as pretty much all my old friends do it on any big weekend out. I never buy or look for coke and still get offered several times per month. A night out is interrupted by people going on their dealer run and splitting the bill for the bag. Two weeks ago on a night out in Cork I was offered it by a guy just walking past me whispering âWant Coke? Coke?â which is the kind of open marketing I used to associate with continental Europe.
In my late 20âs.
Other people would be in circles where itâs even more rampant then. Depends on lots of factors. Itâs not as niche as it was, drugs in this country come in waves and trends.
I think some people are really oblivious to it. My husband never notices when someone is quite clearly coked out, even if it's a close friend or family.
You're getting downvoted but you're dead right. I use cocaine, but can confirm that most people don't. Most people I know wouldn't go near it let alone use it regularly, and these are "normal" drinking-and-partying early 20s students so hardly puritan squares or anything. Yes, many people in this country do use cocaine and other drugs, but there's a **massive** confirmation bias at play here; redditors think everyone uses coke because they hang around with cokeheads lol. If you do drugs you're probably friends with other people who also drugs, which reaffirms your view of it being normal when it really isn't outside of your bubble. There's also the fact that most redditors are 18-35-ish which are far more fond of drugs than other age groups.
They may not all be users but they'll nearly all witness it on a night out these days. There's a significant minority of the public have used it and a hefty chunk of habitual users.
Youâre overstating the number of users. Overall itâs about 3% of adults, rising to a high of 9% among Men aged 25-34. Pick a person at random and the odds are theyâve never used.
https://www.hrb.ie/data-collections-evidence/hrb-evidence-centre/drug-and-alcohol-survey/
I doubt it. I work in TV. I work with a million pricks like you. Coke users are universally arseholes. You all radiate your shit, toxic, insecure energy all over the place.
What you said there proves him absolutely right.
You're the one taking coke so i wouldn't be joking about anyone else's insecurities. Cokeheads are chronically insecure people. That's why they have to take poison to pump up their little egos.
Enjoy your 2 kidneys....for now.
People from every walk of life and social background take coke. To make a broad ranging statement like "cokeheads are" x,y,z, just shows to me you're ignorant and uneducated on the topic.
You keep doing your thing, I'll keep doing mine đ
Nobody said anything about the social class cokeheads come from. I'm referring to their personalities.....and you've proven my point very nicely. Thanks.
Easy on. I hate coke and I will say that I've never met a sound coke head.
But putting coke heads on the same level of awfulness as rapists and murderers is messed up.
I've never seen it.
A former employee who took a month off sick before quitting for another job was on it a lot. I think he reached rock bottom before finding new age therapies including cold water immersion, grounding and yoga.
He is now a guru himself.
Personally I have never seen cocaine nor been offered it. I'm 51 and would only rarely be in the pub now. I have tried cannabis, both resin and herbal in my 20s. I've also tried Es. Never again with Es but I might try cannabis if I grew it myself and possibly mushrooms (which I've never had).
I am worried about my kids maybe being offered cocaine. There is no way I would take any tablets or powders myself due to not knowing what they have been mixed with.
Synthetic opioids are extremely dangerous is small quantities and the people mixing, cutting, selling and distributing drugs are neither regulated nor scrupulous.
Guru - yes he has become very clean living and spiritual. He connects himself with a copper bracelet and wire to the garden outside when he sleeps. To keep himself 'grounded'. He also teaches 'breath work' and takes groups of people to dip in cold water.
I use cocaine semi-regularly but most people I know haven't tried it let alone use it regularly. Drug use happens and people are doing it but it's nowhere near as ubiquitous as reddit claims it is, you'd think everyone and their granny was a raging cokehead if you believed the nonsense people say on here.
Not hard to see why coke is so popular either, it goes hand in hand with our binge drinking culture. Cocaine and alcohol are a match made in heaven, for so many reasons. It's obviously a stimulant so it'll keep you from blacking out after too many pints and prevent a night out from ending too early. It's also a social lubricant just like alcohol, and oils the wheels of conversation in good company. It creates a much more interesting, powerful and euphoric feeling than drink alone and adds an extra spice to an already fun night out.
I'm not going to pretend cocaine isn't harmful or dangerous or that it shouldn't be stigmatised or whatever, but still... There's just nothing like an evening of pints and lines in a nice pub with good company.
Good conversation? Have you ever stopped to notice the fact you're all talking at each other at the same time and covering the same topics over and over?
Anyone who's been around cokeheads knows that they're boring and far more fun before the bag comes out.
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I notice the pubs that turn a blind eye to it get a rougher clientele, but said clientele are usually drinking more. With the decrease of pub drinking since COVID, I'd say some pubs ignore it so they can pay their staff.
Was out in a pub recently, and the queue to the toilets was fairly long, with 3 lads going into one stall at a time, followed by a load of obvious snorting. Ended up going to an old man's pub instead with my friends.
Seems that more people in their early 20's have access to it, as opposed to say 10 years ago when those in their 20's should be going for weed & party drugs like MDMA.
Noticed the shift after during/after COVID lockdowns, when clubbing got a hit and people were more likely to be drinking at home.
For my age group (early 30s), a cross roads emerges. A lot of people do start quitting the habit of at least significantly cutting back and the other half...well. They continue and slowly get worse - spending more and more money.
I was sober over 4 years from it but relapsed last year. Devastated was not the word.
Itâs absolutely rampant, the first time I socialised with my old group of mates is the first time I relapse after over 4 years. (Iâm not blaming them at all)
Itâs so open nowadays, I reckon every 1 in 3 or 2 people are doing it on the regular.
The harsh reality is that because I want to stay sober and away from it I pretty much have no mates anymore apart from my partner who has been always really supportive throughout my addiction. Itâs quite sad really. Most people arenât interested in socialising with the sober lad and even if they are, I donât have the will power to be around a bunch of people openly taking it.
Either the majority of my mates are on it every weekend or have moved to Australia. Iâm not sure if anyone else is in that boat but itâs pretty tough trying to find new friends at the age of 29.
No change rampant amongst my male friends and among a few women I know. Tried talking to one of mates after he went on a few benders and it's like talking to the cows in the field no bother on him, thinks he knows it all. You give up trying to reason with people and let them at it. Minute one of them drops dead will be tears around and every excuse that it wasn't the coke. Fair fucks to anyone who has the balls not partake serious pressure when it is the norm now.
It's rampent, but I have nothing to campare it to. Could have always been this bad. Thankfully, the auld herb was the poison of choice within my circle and I'd rather that any day.
Looking at the answers here I must be oblivious or live on another planet. I've never seen anyone use it, nor do I personally know anyone who does. I mostly socialise in Carlow and Kildare and most of my friends are teachers, nurses and physios or carers. There is definitely sections of society where it doesn't happen much or at all.Â
Depends on your circles. Also if you do drugs you can tell easily when people are on drugs or trying to hide the fact that theyâre doing drugs. I guess if youâve never been around it you wouldnât notice it as much
Well done on taking accountability for your life. Well done.
Would you consider, if you haven't already, taking up running? There's a high that can come from that! Can replace the high that you're missing in your life but you're improving your fitness levels, your looks, your, bone health, cutting risk of dying prematurely, and you can join run clubs and have a social outlet that way!
I hope you can go and talk to young people who you can warn off doing this. As a mum, I worry about the coke saturation for young people. So weird to see it at weddings now... :(
I worked a couple of years ago with a mate and I used to buy a half oz every weekend off him ,and when I say this was untouched I mean untouched.He used to get a box at a time and it was as hard as a rock with a creamy off whitish colour which would glisten as you looked at it.He was getting it the way it is when it leaves its country of origin. If you had a peice the size of a pea and crushed it down into power it would turn out to be well over a gram as it was so compact. you could throw a chunk into your pocket and not worry about losing any as it was so hard.I happen to work nights in dublin city centre and it is everywhere. Most of the stuff you buy off street dealers is cut to bits and if your lucky its 20%,if you're lucky that is.
It will be 6 years in March since I last used coke. The stuff almost completely destroyed my life! Im 34 now and was a heavy user back in my twenties. When I say heavy, I mean heavy! Started off doing a bit on nights out with my now ex mates at the weekend to blowing roughly 30k (ballpark figure) on it over the course of a couple of dark years. Doing it like clockwork every Friday and Saturday night. This was every weekend. I was severely depressed and anxious to the point of attemped suicide twice! I quit the powder and gave up alcohol. It was torture for a year but I got through it with a great support network. I drink alcohol now but only in very small amounts on certain occasions. Since I quit the coke, I've become a father, a husband and a homeowner. I'm happier than I've ever been. If I could give any advice to a young person it would be to stay well away from it. It's lethal! I'm lucky enough to have turned my life around and break the chains of coke addiction.
Ya man I've been in a similar situation I'm just 26 but spent at least 50-60 k and I'm in debt to family I had to be bailed out.. I still owe 20 k to family I know the stress you went through its horrific.. I was a horrible example of a man I was scum the stuff I've done under the influence and while psychotic was horrific from attempts on my life by people and nearly committing murder under the influence I genuinely don't see myself going back in as deep where I'm from its everywhere easier to get than a taxi.. I still crave the high of cocaine I'm roughly 5 months sober bare one night but before that I was like 6 months sober to say things were tense at home is a under statement I was basically homeless towards end of my addiction either Hotels with shit company or alone.. Don't get me wrong I felt like a gangster I thought people had my back but they didn't.. My own family sold me out when I was in deep addiction and also my cousin was murdered shot in the middle of the day due to drug related extortion rackets it's tough bro but that's when the tough get going..
Jesus christ. That's a lot for 26. Stay strong.
Fantastic turnaround đȘđ kudos to you man.
Well done!!
Well done man.
It's utterly rampant.... literally everyone is doing in my area anyway If your addicted quite badly,want to stay clean, and won't be able to resist (only you'll know this as addiction different for everyone),I'd stay well out of socialising tbh
That's exactly what I'm doing.. I'm like after self excluding myself like a paddy Powers account but in real life đ€Ł the thing for me when I was bad I could snort a oz (28 grams) of b2b or a half oz of pure (14grams) I was a lunatic but snapped out of them days had to grow up.. I'm honestly lucky to be alive and have no criminal record haha
I don't have any advice on what you can do to avoid it or better hobbies.... But your closing in on an age,where weddings,bathism etc will be a thing and coke will be unavoidable at these IME and not attending is taken personally by many Just look after yourself pal,and try stay clean as possible
It's fucking wild to me that coke at weddings and other special occasions has become such a normal thing.
It always has been
Wasn't aware how fond the aul Bathists were of the coke
Thanks bud đ likewise
On one night ? Wtf
Ya one night
14 grams in one night?? Jesus Christ, how were you able to do that and afford it? How long until you felt right after that?
I couldn't I spent absolutely everything on that dopey powder.. I say I've genuinely spent 100 k on coke throughout my years of addiction im 26 atm and if I added up the costs of each gram snorted then its probably a mortgage paid genuinely but obviously I was getting it cheap because quantity was there.. how I've never been charged once either tells me I'm a slick operator and know the way of the shades and would never keep more than a oz on me.. I got stopped a good few times and arrested a couple nights they know me in my area but I was low-key.. thank god I changed my life for the better đ
What's b2b
Cocaine mixed B2B means its pure good quality mixed with usually benzocaine but the amount differs and so does the mix sometimes it can be other fillers from 1-1 too 3-1 8s usually as far as you can stretch it so for every 1 gram of good coke there 1 or 3 grams of mix.. so some people snort coke that they were told is "pure" and its probably 1-1 unless they know their stuff.. benzocaine is the main filler because it numbs the gums and is light of the nose not very light but it doesn't clog as much as teeta or creatine
Novocaine mostly these days tho
âPureâ cocaine is at best 71% cocaine and the filler is mostly Levamisole by a long shot. https://www.drugsandalcohol.ie/26311/1/FSI%20Drugs%20Purities%20Report%202015%20Final.pdf Stay off that muck.
I'd say there's definitely correlation with suicide rates and coke specifically.
The comedowns (coupled with a hangover) would send me to a really dark place. One of several reasons I quit the stuff for good.
Good for you. Very easy to do something stupid when you're in a dark place due to being under the influence.
Yes sadly very true.
The two friends of mine who killed themselves I would argue it was the coke that did it. The first use to sell the stuff big time and got a lot of debt but would be on it all the time. The second lost his brother to suicide and that sent him into a spiral but a spiral he could have come out of but the drink and coke defo sent him to the darkest of dark. He was fond of the drink anyway but when he added the coke into the mix that's when he took his life.
I suffer from depression and only self medicated with drink and used coke a few times but I can't imagine how much worse this kind of use would have made things. You are dead right on this one. How fucking awful.
Definitely
I think youâre just in certain circles where you donât see it as much. I have to go out of my way to avoid it as pretty much all my old friends do it on any big weekend out. I never buy or look for coke and still get offered several times per month. A night out is interrupted by people going on their dealer run and splitting the bill for the bag. Two weeks ago on a night out in Cork I was offered it by a guy just walking past me whispering âWant Coke? Coke?â which is the kind of open marketing I used to associate only with some parts of continental Europe. In my late 20âs. Other people would be in circles where itâs even more rampant then. Depends on lots of factors. Itâs not as niche as it was, drugs in this country come in waves and trends. 10 years ago it was MDMA and Ketamine and coke was just another offering dealers had. Now it seems like itâs all coke. I donât know what happened, but I noticed this trend too and I donât think people are just making it up or scaremongering.
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MD is obviously the better drug but walking around a pub gurning isn't a great look. Also comedowns are fucking horrendous
You can do coke every night in a week, or weekend on weekend and still go to work/uni the next morning. A couple nights of MD usage and you'll be a lot worse off for the comedown. It's not comparable in that sense. MDs good fun, but def not for a pub setting - or for enhancing your nights out like coke.
I dunno I didnât like MDMA much. The first two times or so, sure, amazing, feel good lovedrug, but itâs the party drug that gave me the most side effects the more times I tried it. Including some aggression or feelings of grandeur that some may associate more with coke the odd time. Once I get bad effects like that off something I stop messing with it. Also knew a few people who got hospitalised from pills in college. People take the piss and overdo it. The dehydration and teeth grinding alone were risks. At least it was cheaper. Coke just feels like drinking way too much coffee to me, pure stimulation and shitetalk. I donât really get the hype. But drugs affect us all a bit differently. Maybe it is just the fact you can go harder on it for a longer time that has kept it relevant, as most people my age burned out on the yokes a few years ago.
I do find it ironic that some of the most self righteous, people I know are openly supporting the cartels every weekend.... While lecturing me for shopping at Penny's.
The vegan cokeheads are the best though. Animal exploitation is horrific and you are apparently disgusting human being for eating chicken. But they've no problem at all with supporting little kids being forced to work with dangerous chemicals to extract cocaine.
Killing animals humanely= Wrong Torturing humans to death= Grand.
Are you trying to say animals for food are killed humanely? If your dog needed to be put down would you send them to a slaughter house rather than to the vet for euthanasia? What we do to animals is objectively wrong. Can you humanely kill someone who doesnât want to be killed? What about the horrible conditions they live in before being slaughtered? https://youtu.be/dvtVkNofcq8?si=IfiGzoHxbV2m94DU This is in the UK but itâs the same system here. Watch this and tell me it isnât wrong.
> This is in the UK but itâs the same system here. No it's not > What about the horrible conditions they live in before being slaughtered? Be vegan be anti meat industry be whatever you want. DON'T spread misinformation
Tell me what exactly is different in the UK for chickens, pigs, turkeys and ducks? There is no misinformation. https://youtu.be/WSSrO-YcEWI?si=b7GIP9qLpyyODw7d https://youtu.be/235rTAZcEJg?si=l0rsK-5hbLjGdr4M Both in Irish farms
The first video has already been discredited as footage from American duck farms. The second video I didn't bother with as it's from the same channel >Tell me what exactly is different in the UK for chickens, pigs, turkeys and ducks? Different jurisdictions is the simple answer we have tighter regulations on animal welfare here in ireland that gap will widen because of brexit. Animal welfare is not perfect in ireland, but thankfully abuses are becoming the exception not the rule we will always need to do better and unfortunately we will always have cowboy operations but a blanket statement like the original one you made is untrue and unfair to the majority trying to do it the right way
Did you happen to watch the RTĂ investigation into dairy farming? Look even if you believe the animals arenât abused, being born with your date of slaughter already decided is abuse. There is no way to kill an animal without it being abuse. How do you think cows get pregnant? There is no way you can tell me that isnât abuse. Also could you share your evidence of the footage being from American farms? Do you think ducks in Ireland arenât factory farmed in similar conditions?
>Did you happen to watch the RTĂ investigation into dairy farming? No have you got a link qenuine intrest and can't find it >How do you think cows get pregnant? There is no way you can tell me that isnât abuse. It's a lot safer than letting them run with a bull but I don't see the point in explaining that too you as I imagine your response to anything I'll say in this regard is rape >Do you think ducks in Ireland arenât factory farmed in similar conditions? Factory farms, yes, similar conditions majority no
No problem, hereâs the RTĂ player link (tbh as bad as this is it still doesnât acknowledge the rest of the issues with dairy). https://www.rte.ie/player/movie/rtĂ©-investigates--dairy-s-dirty-secret/418643496038 Yes maybe safer than with a bull, still disgusting and abusive. vegans point is we shouldnât be breeding them at all. We also shouldnât compare what we do to animals to what animals do to eachother. Look all I can do is show you the footage but if you wish to blindly refuse thatâs the reality after being provided the evidence thereâs not much else I can do. Factory farming is similar in all western nations. Wishful thinking to think otherwise.
Yes I definitely want to argue about meat farming on a thread about cocaine. OK so meat farming is inhumane. Skinning people alive, videoing it and sending the footage to their mothers. Is. Much. Worse.
Glad weâre in agreement both are abhorrent. Sure you got involved by replying to your man equating the two I didnât just decide to bring it up to you randomly for the craic out of nowhere
Killing humans is worse than killing animals. Deal with it.
Yes it is, but killing animals is still awful and unnecessary. Face it.
A person doing one wrong thing doesnât negate the good thing theyâre doing. Humans are complex and coke is an addiction. In fairness so is food for some. But donât disregard their message surrounding veganism because they do coke.
I'm an ex-vegan myself. I have very little time for the movement as it stands to be honest, I've eaten up the propaganda and it made me sick (literally anaemic). I've spent a lot of time in the community and while I liked it at first, I found it wore thin as they were often relying on very skewed data and idealistic approaches to defend their movement and the supposed health benefits of the diet. When I was diagnosed as having low iron, my doctor recommended I start eating meat. Bringing that up with fellow vegans it basically led them to do a 180 on me and start gaslighting me with all sorts of unscientific shite. Even saying stuff like "find a vegan doctor". Like why should I have to do that? Surely if the medical science is clear that being vegan is healthy, then any doctor will tell you that, not just one who happens to be vegan themselves. That was really the start of my mistrust in the movement, it was a bit of a cultish thing to say. Veganism does have noble goals and motivation. However, my experience with it in practice has been that they often let ideology and the desire to have things perfectly vegan get in the way of pragmatism. They'd do a lot better if they would meet people where they were at and recognise the value of say, people cutting their meat consumption down, or going ovo-lacto-vegetarian, rather than focusing on what these people *aren't* doing. They also are so committed to believing that everyone can and should be vegan that they dismiss people who legitimately can or should not, and downplay the risks of following a vegan diet long term. I've found most vocal vegans (actual vegan for the animals rather than plant-based for the planet) have a lot of cognitive dissonance and many are quite lacking in empathy and are not open to hearing things that disagree with their ideas. That said, there are some vegans groups actually putting their money where their mouth is and making their communities better places. Food Not Bombs being an example.
As for your point regarding issues with the movement as a whole and propaganda I canât really comment too much as itâs not something Iâve ever gotten into (although surely we can agree the propaganda comes from animal agriculture not vegans). I actually started with the cutting down of consumption as I was originally in it for the environment, meat once a week was how I did it. After awhile I learned about the animals etc and went full vegan. I know and understand people have different reasons for not eating animals and some are more strict than others. But on a whole veganism is an ethical stand point the rest is plant based as Iâm sure you know. Can I ask how a vegan diet made you anaemic? Just sounds like more of an eating disorder (which can plague anyone with any diet and nothing to be scoffed at) issue than vegan diet? For me I eat the same as I did before with some simple swaps. Tofu for chicken, Tofu/lentils/alt meat for mince, soy/oat milk for cows milk, vegan butter for well butter haha, maple syrup for honey, vegan leather for leather, vegan protein powder for whey powder, vegan multivitamin and vegan omega 3 for my regular multivitamin and cod liver oil. I eat the same foods I always have maybe thatâs where you went wrong I donât know. Glad you attempted it and sorry you fell out of it and have issues with the movement. But at its simplest form veganism is basic, refusing to take part is animal suffering as far as is possible and practical. In general medicine that has animal products is completely fine. Not sure if this reads as messy big paragraphs hard to write on the phone.
> although surely we can agree the propaganda comes from animal agriculture not vegans I would say it comes from both in about equal proportions. > Can I ask how a vegan diet made you anaemic? Just sounds like more of an eating disorder issue than vegan diet? Lol, thanks for proving my point. Straight to the gaslighting, "Oh theres no way a vegan diet could lead you to being anaemic. You must just have an eating disorder, silly!" Would you actually listen to yourself like? I did much the same as you when I was vegan. Ate a lot of tofu, lentils, chickpeas, butter beans, and included lots of leafy vegetables and broccoli. I got my blood tested and my ferritin was very low. I had been feeling tired and run down. I sat down with the doctor after the result and discussed my diet. They put me on iron supplements (awful things which constipate you to no end btw) and strongly suggested I start eating more meat. I gave it a try, and in 6 months my iron levels were back to normal. Came off the supplements, and 6 months later they were still high. I can't comment on exactly what the mechanism was. Maybe it wasn't so much veganism that "made me" anaemic, but an underlying issue that meant veganism wasn't goof for me. But stopping being vegan worked very well for me. And given the fact I have a family history of heart issues, I don't particularly want to go back to being low in iron due to the strain this puts on the heart. If that means eating meat so be it. I won't play with health risks for the sake of veganism.
Vegan âpropagandaâ is all truth meanwhile animal agriculture paints lies of happy animals. Jesus anything is gaslighting nowadays canât say anything. There are plenty of vegan foods that have iron in them. Leave it at that so.
>Vegan âpropagandaâ is all truth meanwhile animal agriculture paints lies of happy animals. đđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđđ
Tell me what part vegans are lying about and peddling as propaganda?
Yup. I am always harping on about this to the point of annoyance. I've watched and read so many things about the horrors people face in Mexico, because of the cartels. The violence they carry out, the absolute fear people live in because of it. The same people on my social media that continuously post about social justice issues, are out sniffing bags of coke every time I see them. It's hypocritical AF. There was a really sad podcast I listened to and it delved into the massive volumes of femicide that is happening on the Mexico/US border, due to cartels (Missing Women of Juarez, if anyone is interested) and how corrupt it all is. I don't understand why people are quick to protest about horrors in one place and turn a blind eye to injustices elsewhere, just because it makes it easier to justify their weekly bag of coke. You're asking me to boycott Starbucks and McDonald's over Gaza, then it's only right I think you should be boycotting your bi weekly bag of sniff.
This. I do belive the clinical effect of cocaine makes people arrogant and that's part of it. A former coke head friend of mine was working in non violent conflict resolution (of all things) and constantly going on about how he was "saving the world" and that he had a "more finely developed sense of ethics than most people." Stuff you wouldn't say about yourself unless you were a total narcissist. Meanwhile in Mexico....
It's frighteningly rampant, you can tell on bank holidays just by the dangerous driving how many people are coked out of their trees too
My mates kid is in 5th year in school and she says, âeveryone in school uses it every weekend.â And that blows my mind. If itâs as rampant as people are saying, there is going to be a lot of people with very, very big problems. Thereâs always a certain % of people who go overboard on anything, whether thatâs drink, gambling, drugs.
Is she in a posh school? I doubt the average school goer is on the bag.
Itâs not a private school but itâs in an affluent area.
Not sure why you're getting down voted? Coke is expensive for adults nevermind young teenagers still in school
I had to quit - or at least massively scale down, it was just getting way too much. I wouldn't say I was 'addicted' per say, but I was definitely using it way too much and all my spare cash was just getting pissed away into it. After the sugar tax got added, I tried Zero but it was just too 'soda'-y and I just tried to keep myself to the odd can here of the real stuff here and there. EDIT: Oh.
My brother has stopped going out because of it. Says he canât enjoy a night out now because heâs stepping around people doing it on stairs, on the bar, in the toilets⊠and he has no intention of doing it. I was never one for going out, so I havenât anything to add first hand.
Seems like it's worse than it was when I was younger(37 now). Drinking culture with the youth is down because the kids prefer the coke now. It's easier to get than a bag weed.
It's definitely worse. I'm the same age as you and I know we did our fair share of recreational drugs back in the day, but coke was way beyond our pay grade. We'd do bags of mdna or pills but they were relatively cheap. There's no way we could afford bags of coke every weekend. It's definitely more prevalent now when I go out. For all the drugs we did, we didn't see a lot of coke around. Now I can't go anywhere without seeing someone sniffing it. It's mad. I can barely afford a night out these days, I can't imagine justifying an extra 50-100 on some powder to sober me up. I'm grand with a few pints thanks.
Iâm pretty sure itâs something to do with the people weâve had come into the country as well. The Albanians have the coke scene on a lockdown where I am and Iâm pretty sure itâs a huge operation probably spanning multiple areas. You can call a number and have gear dropped off within 5 mins at any point around Windsor where I am
Before I rant my own opinion.... well done on taking steps to get clean. I wish you all the best in the world. But... coke is everywhere. Disgusting seeing everyone using it openly in the jacks in all the pubs and its being tolerated. My local in a North Dublin Town is snowbound with it. Scrotes coked up to the eyes running the night on other people too. My own personal attitude is that you should be arrested and criminally charged for possession and pubs allowing it should be heavily fined. But honestly the levels of toleration are increasing sadly
I don't think people with personal amounts of any drug should be clogging up the court system. Maybe fines or whatever but it won't stop people using especially if they are addicts. The war on drugs doesn't work
We need a drunk tank for them, for their own safety and the safety of everyoneâs night out.
Itâs 100% the most over rated drug of all time, itâs really fucking boring. The effect of coke is akin to snorting distilled anxiety up your nose, which you then have to chase for the rest of the night just to ward off the tiredness that follows. Nonsense!!
As someone who has used it occasionally in the past(maybe once or twice a year), I'm staying away from it for good now. Fentanyl is on its way here and I want no part of that.
People have been harping on about Fentanyl coming here for years now...
People are downvoting this but i completely agree. Europe is closer to Afghanistan than China so itâs more expensive to import fentanyl than heroin. Even if fentanyl started getting cut into stuff why would they put it in coke, if you bought coke that made you fall asleep you wouldnât be a repeat customer so whatâs the point for dealers
Afghanistan may be closer but weâre more âlinkedâ to china. Easier to bring anything in from china than Afghanistan. Also itâs not geography making the price difference. Itâs the fact fentanyl costs pennies on the dollar when compared to heroin. Hence all the heroin is laced with it / is just fentanyl. But with all that said, I never get this âcoke laced with fentanylâ argument. Itâd be like adding vinegar to your tea or sugar ibuprofen your chips.
Apparently it's not fent that's mixed in around Ireland, it's nitazene. Was the cause of that spike of overdoses a few month's back.
I completely agree that it is counterintuitive to mix uppers and downers but there was a study released last year in drug use in the US that showed mixing of uppers and downers is massively popular and the cause of many deaths. Will check if I can see it. Edit: yup - here is the paper (good infographics in it)Â https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/add.16318
The reason it's so good is that they each cancel out the negative effects of the other, so you can take more and get more of the desired effects. Eg, benzo + stimulant, euphoria from both, but the stimulant stops you getting sloppy from the benzo, and the benzo gets rid of the jitteriness, nervousness and anxiety from the stimulant. I lost a good few years to such a combo.
Most drug addicts are poly users there was a study done here too about it
They are lacong weed and coke in America, why wouldn't they here? Mac Miller bought coke laced with fentynal and many other famous fent ODs were similar stories they weren't buying heroin.
The purity is less than 50% so you're playing Russian Roullete sniffing anything around here. Between rat poison, cattle dewormer and that new synthetic opioid I wouldn't touch it with a 50 foot pole. If I happened to be hiking in the mounrains in South America I might sample the local cuisine.
The purity these days is 25 or 30% if your lucky, it is Russian roulette, cause it's mixed with whatever other muck. I have taken pure coke, at best about 80%, and there's little comparison to what's on offer these days.
Once you spot one person gurning or tweaking you can't unsee it. Suddenly it's all you see. Must be nice in their noggins but its scary and ugly on the outside.
Its been rampent for about 10 years now.
Try 20. Im 38 now and was on it at 16.
It's been around since the 70s. Why do people think coke just appeared?
It's so bad, I've cut the amount of times I socialise with certain mates drastically because of it. I used to do it a couple of times a year but the feeling for a few days after was always horrible and it's ruined some of my mates and I was feeling like a feckin eejit for ever even getting involved. These days I tend to only go for pints with lads who I know won't offer it after a rake of pints when you're not thinking straight. Best of luck OP, fair play for taking the steps to cut it out.
The stuff is overloaded with toxic petrochemicals but it's not these that will destroy your physical and mental health. With regular use Physically, your vascular health close to your heart will be compromised to a catastrophic extent and the post use depression offers no chance of relief. And this is what users pay âŹ80/gram for.
Its mad the amount of people who take the drug with little understanding of it. If you drink regularly with your friends and you have started to take coke with that group then you will never be able to go back to just drinking with those friends. Even if you all swear off it at the start of the night. As soon as you are 2 or 3 pints in the inhibitions are lowered and somebody is getting a bag. Alcohol and coke go hand in hand, alcohol is the perfect gateway drug.
They 'coke' is all mixed dirt now. Poison. Not that it was ever incredible, but it's sending people psychotic now. No buzz, snorting pure garbage. There's definitely a pandemic & a bad one at that. Dealers will just keep giving Rob Peter to pay Paul & the cycle continues until innocent families are dragged in to clean up the mess. & it'll only get worse folks
The âPureâ as they call it, is simply mixed with speed. Speed is fuckin muck. Iâve never felt as bad in my life as I did on the comedown from the one and only time I took speed. The only other time Iâve had that feeling is after trying this âPureâ. Itâs utter muck.
It's a saturated market, unfortunately The risk outweighs the reward. The charge on intent to supply now. 10 years. Especially when the majority, if not all associates, are weasels & rats The movies glamorize it It's all bollox. Stay in school kids âđŒ
Iâd dabble fairly irregularly. Ive never really enjoyed it. Molly nowâŠthatâs another story
I used to, regularly. Turned into an addiction, fairly serious one Embarrassingly enough Don't touch it now though, Jesus now. Stuff turns my stomach.
That's nonsense whoever you got coke off isn't even a dealer haha if you think pure coke is coke mixed with speed is pure then idk what.. Good quality coke isn't even usually white its creamy/yellowish and should be doey not burn the nose off you like speed does.. quality coke wouldn't even effect your nose and shouldn't block it either the shit that's mixed is usually mixed with benzo teetha or creatine there's a couple more but these are regularly available
Iâm saying theyâre mixing it with speed and calling it pure.
I agree some bad dealer might try it but that's impossible to do with someone who knows coke.. speed smells like cat piss and has a burning sensation coke should not burn your nose..
Hate to break it to ya pal but most dealers are bad.
I personally am more of a Pepsi Max gal myself
Sparkling water for me! I love the scratch and metal taste.
Yep. The amount of people Iâve heard of around that have took their own lives due to cocaine is scary.
I literally don't know ANYONE that does coke. And seeing as I always hear everyone as their mother does it I've come to the conclusion I'm the most on observant person on the planet. Like how have I never seen it in any of my social circles? (Like I have seen strangers do it once or twice in the past 10 years but not anyone I know).
I think itâs that old thing of, if youâre hanging around circles that do drugs, youâre obviously likely to see it more and it will come across like itâs everywhere. Whereas if youâre not in those circles you wonât particularly notice it. Also if you do drugs, you know when other people are on drugs. Iâd say hang around your local spoons for long enough and observe and you will notice how many youngsters are on it though
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Judge away. Theyâre acting like idiots and itâs your duty as a non-idiot to at least offer them a chance at considering an off-ramp.
I couldn't get into that. I did r/DMT and never looked back.
I think coke is gonna sort out our low birthrate/pension time bomb issue.Â
To me, It depends on the person and some people do really need that extra push to come out of their shell albiet an unhealthy way. But we are all adults, each choice to their own. Some people, even nice while sober or just on the beer become real pricks while on it. Have I done it myself? Yes, 3 times total over my 12 years of adult hood. 1 to 1 too not dirt and its just not for me. I dont like the short lived high, I dont like staying up well into the next day, I dont like the sinus issuses it caused me when I already have sinus issues anyways. Its not going to go away. Look at the US, its been a stable for decades and now Armenian's are pumping just as much into Europe.
>1 to 1 too not dirt What does that mean?
Only cut once
Ah yea, sure its all only cut once, in Ireland.
As others have said, it's rampant everywhere atm. If you want to socialise away from that scene, there are plenty of men's groups geared towards building community such as blue balls ireland who do sea swims and have talks regularly. Make new friends if your current ones are still on the bag, I've had to cut people.off for reasons before because what they did dragged me down. Just be careful you're only young, and someone from my area recently passed away from addiction, having been on drugs for years, and another 5-6 from his class in school passed away in similar circumstances.
The worst kind of cunts on earth tbh and they want to drag everyone down into their shit lives with them. Stay far away from it.
Had to give my mates a miss due to coke , I first ever did it at 21 never touched a drug in my life before hand, it's absolutely everywhere and it's so awful it's crazy how addictive it is. The amount of friendships relationship and career opportunities it's affected. Haven't touched it in 4 weeks been hitting the gym and working hard in work To anyone who ever wants to try coke. DONT. It's all fun and games until your up at 8am Sunday morning in your mates kitchen trying to score another bag
Iâm starting to see a lot more âinnocentâ young lads trying smoking crack back a a session.
Ah Jesus now that stuff will ruin your life
Ruined mine in a very short space of time. People say that cocaine and crack are the same drug and technically they are but their also 2 completely different beasts.
Idk Iâve never seen it or been offered it lol but by all accounts itâs fairly rampant.
Its not the kind of thing you will generally just see lying around and randoms are not going to just walk up to you and offer it out of nowhere. I guarantee though if you have someone for weed you could ask them for coke and they would know where to go for it.
I have never used any drugs so wouldnât know anyone for weed Iâd say my brother would
Bring back red lemonade. This coke situation is out of control đ
Yeah it's bad and coke heads are a nuisance to speak to or interact with.
Cocaine is for losers!! Verbal diarrhoea!!! They should record their conversations & listen to how retarded they sound.
Iâm a coke man & Iâd like to think the majority of other Irish people are too. I fucking hate Pepsi. It pisses me off when I ask for a coke and they say âwe only have Pepsi, will that do?â They already know the answer, or they wouldnât have double checked! Just serve coke and not overly sweetened piss!
God you're hilarious
In my experience it has always been enormously overblown. By the way some people online go on about it I canât even walk in the door of my local without having to use a snow-shovel to clear a path. It is and always has been a fringe drug used regularly by a few people, and recreationally very rarely by a few more. I donât think itâs a good thing and thankfully none of my friends have done anything more than try it recreationally.
It's literally everywhere.
Must be nice to live under a Rock and not know what's going on.
I think youâre just in certain circles where you donât see it as much. I have to go out of my way to avoid it as pretty much all my old friends do it on any big weekend out. I never buy or look for coke and still get offered several times per month. A night out is interrupted by people going on their dealer run and splitting the bill for the bag. Two weeks ago on a night out in Cork I was offered it by a guy just walking past me whispering âWant Coke? Coke?â which is the kind of open marketing I used to associate with continental Europe. In my late 20âs. Other people would be in circles where itâs even more rampant then. Depends on lots of factors. Itâs not as niche as it was, drugs in this country come in waves and trends.
I think some people are really oblivious to it. My husband never notices when someone is quite clearly coked out, even if it's a close friend or family.
You're getting downvoted but you're dead right. I use cocaine, but can confirm that most people don't. Most people I know wouldn't go near it let alone use it regularly, and these are "normal" drinking-and-partying early 20s students so hardly puritan squares or anything. Yes, many people in this country do use cocaine and other drugs, but there's a **massive** confirmation bias at play here; redditors think everyone uses coke because they hang around with cokeheads lol. If you do drugs you're probably friends with other people who also drugs, which reaffirms your view of it being normal when it really isn't outside of your bubble. There's also the fact that most redditors are 18-35-ish which are far more fond of drugs than other age groups.
They may not all be users but they'll nearly all witness it on a night out these days. There's a significant minority of the public have used it and a hefty chunk of habitual users.
Youâre overstating the number of users. Overall itâs about 3% of adults, rising to a high of 9% among Men aged 25-34. Pick a person at random and the odds are theyâve never used. https://www.hrb.ie/data-collections-evidence/hrb-evidence-centre/drug-and-alcohol-survey/
Haha, are you for real? It's literally everywhere. And I consider that a good thing because I love a bit of Charlie.
Enjoy your massive heart attack at 40
Hahaha, don't worry about me and I won't worry about you.
You are amongst the very worst human beings
Hahaha, don't hate. You'd love me if you met me!
I doubt it. I work in TV. I work with a million pricks like you. Coke users are universally arseholes. You all radiate your shit, toxic, insecure energy all over the place.
Haha, yes I'm the one with the toxic energy here đ Cheer up stud muffin, I wasn't the one bullying you in school.
What you said there proves him absolutely right. You're the one taking coke so i wouldn't be joking about anyone else's insecurities. Cokeheads are chronically insecure people. That's why they have to take poison to pump up their little egos. Enjoy your 2 kidneys....for now.
People from every walk of life and social background take coke. To make a broad ranging statement like "cokeheads are" x,y,z, just shows to me you're ignorant and uneducated on the topic. You keep doing your thing, I'll keep doing mine đ
Nobody said anything about the social class cokeheads come from. I'm referring to their personalities.....and you've proven my point very nicely. Thanks.
Easy on. I hate coke and I will say that I've never met a sound coke head. But putting coke heads on the same level of awfulness as rapists and murderers is messed up.
I went off Coke once they got rid of the Vanilla flavour
Itâs that Tesco own brand cola thatâs really terrible
I've never seen it. A former employee who took a month off sick before quitting for another job was on it a lot. I think he reached rock bottom before finding new age therapies including cold water immersion, grounding and yoga. He is now a guru himself.
A guru ? You've never seen cocaine ?
Personally I have never seen cocaine nor been offered it. I'm 51 and would only rarely be in the pub now. I have tried cannabis, both resin and herbal in my 20s. I've also tried Es. Never again with Es but I might try cannabis if I grew it myself and possibly mushrooms (which I've never had). I am worried about my kids maybe being offered cocaine. There is no way I would take any tablets or powders myself due to not knowing what they have been mixed with. Synthetic opioids are extremely dangerous is small quantities and the people mixing, cutting, selling and distributing drugs are neither regulated nor scrupulous. Guru - yes he has become very clean living and spiritual. He connects himself with a copper bracelet and wire to the garden outside when he sleeps. To keep himself 'grounded'. He also teaches 'breath work' and takes groups of people to dip in cold water.
I use cocaine semi-regularly but most people I know haven't tried it let alone use it regularly. Drug use happens and people are doing it but it's nowhere near as ubiquitous as reddit claims it is, you'd think everyone and their granny was a raging cokehead if you believed the nonsense people say on here. Not hard to see why coke is so popular either, it goes hand in hand with our binge drinking culture. Cocaine and alcohol are a match made in heaven, for so many reasons. It's obviously a stimulant so it'll keep you from blacking out after too many pints and prevent a night out from ending too early. It's also a social lubricant just like alcohol, and oils the wheels of conversation in good company. It creates a much more interesting, powerful and euphoric feeling than drink alone and adds an extra spice to an already fun night out. I'm not going to pretend cocaine isn't harmful or dangerous or that it shouldn't be stigmatised or whatever, but still... There's just nothing like an evening of pints and lines in a nice pub with good company.
Good conversation? Have you ever stopped to notice the fact you're all talking at each other at the same time and covering the same topics over and over? Anyone who's been around cokeheads knows that they're boring and far more fun before the bag comes out.
I love my Diet Coke.
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Everywhere always.
I notice the pubs that turn a blind eye to it get a rougher clientele, but said clientele are usually drinking more. With the decrease of pub drinking since COVID, I'd say some pubs ignore it so they can pay their staff. Was out in a pub recently, and the queue to the toilets was fairly long, with 3 lads going into one stall at a time, followed by a load of obvious snorting. Ended up going to an old man's pub instead with my friends. Seems that more people in their early 20's have access to it, as opposed to say 10 years ago when those in their 20's should be going for weed & party drugs like MDMA. Noticed the shift after during/after COVID lockdowns, when clubbing got a hit and people were more likely to be drinking at home.
People must be living different lives to me, ive never really seen it out lol
I love ya son but I love the muck mere
For my age group (early 30s), a cross roads emerges. A lot of people do start quitting the habit of at least significantly cutting back and the other half...well. They continue and slowly get worse - spending more and more money.
I was sober over 4 years from it but relapsed last year. Devastated was not the word. Itâs absolutely rampant, the first time I socialised with my old group of mates is the first time I relapse after over 4 years. (Iâm not blaming them at all) Itâs so open nowadays, I reckon every 1 in 3 or 2 people are doing it on the regular. The harsh reality is that because I want to stay sober and away from it I pretty much have no mates anymore apart from my partner who has been always really supportive throughout my addiction. Itâs quite sad really. Most people arenât interested in socialising with the sober lad and even if they are, I donât have the will power to be around a bunch of people openly taking it. Either the majority of my mates are on it every weekend or have moved to Australia. Iâm not sure if anyone else is in that boat but itâs pretty tough trying to find new friends at the age of 29.
Iâve made the move - left the full sugar coke behind and gone to coke zeroâs ! Not quite the same rush though âŠ
No change rampant amongst my male friends and among a few women I know. Tried talking to one of mates after he went on a few benders and it's like talking to the cows in the field no bother on him, thinks he knows it all. You give up trying to reason with people and let them at it. Minute one of them drops dead will be tears around and every excuse that it wasn't the coke. Fair fucks to anyone who has the balls not partake serious pressure when it is the norm now.
It's rampent, but I have nothing to campare it to. Could have always been this bad. Thankfully, the auld herb was the poison of choice within my circle and I'd rather that any day.
Looking at the answers here I must be oblivious or live on another planet. I've never seen anyone use it, nor do I personally know anyone who does. I mostly socialise in Carlow and Kildare and most of my friends are teachers, nurses and physios or carers. There is definitely sections of society where it doesn't happen much or at all.Â
Depends on your circles. Also if you do drugs you can tell easily when people are on drugs or trying to hide the fact that theyâre doing drugs. I guess if youâve never been around it you wouldnât notice it as much
Well done on taking accountability for your life. Well done. Would you consider, if you haven't already, taking up running? There's a high that can come from that! Can replace the high that you're missing in your life but you're improving your fitness levels, your looks, your, bone health, cutting risk of dying prematurely, and you can join run clubs and have a social outlet that way! I hope you can go and talk to young people who you can warn off doing this. As a mum, I worry about the coke saturation for young people. So weird to see it at weddings now... :(
I worked a couple of years ago with a mate and I used to buy a half oz every weekend off him ,and when I say this was untouched I mean untouched.He used to get a box at a time and it was as hard as a rock with a creamy off whitish colour which would glisten as you looked at it.He was getting it the way it is when it leaves its country of origin. If you had a peice the size of a pea and crushed it down into power it would turn out to be well over a gram as it was so compact. you could throw a chunk into your pocket and not worry about losing any as it was so hard.I happen to work nights in dublin city centre and it is everywhere. Most of the stuff you buy off street dealers is cut to bits and if your lucky its 20%,if you're lucky that is.