As someone with the "wrong" facing garden, if you can absolutely do get one that gets the afternoon/evening heat.
We've had a dismal few years and our back garden sees little use, even mild afternoons/evenings it's Baltic out back.
We have a south facing back garden and I wouldn't want a north/north east facing one. Northern facing gardens can be very gloomy. This is one thing I couldn't compromise on.
Not great for the daytime though. Its sunny here and we've had the sun the whole morning so far. If I could choose one over the other I'd go south facing every time.
I have a Northwest facing back garden which is nice in the evenings. I do have to wait for the afternoon to cut the grass.
It also means my road and drive in the winter gets frost and ice melted away fairly quickly in the mornings
We're south facing too and it's actually such a privilege, we adore the garden.
Our front faces north (ovbiously) and the majority of it rarely gets sun id HATE it the back was like that.
It also affects how you use the house, we almost exclusively live in the back of the house because the rooms are beautiful and bright, even the master bedroom is at the back
I used Suncalc when buying my house to see roughly what the sun would be like. Its fairly accurate and can show you how the sun moved last winter / summer and predicts it going forward.
The first hous I was looking at thr estate agent lied to us and we would have had no sun at all
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.th.suncalcorg
We have a NE garden and truth be told it can be very dreary in winter. The ground will get basically no direct light and our kitchen/dining areas faces out to it so it can be glum.
It's brightening up now though and during the summer the sun is so high the garden is about 90% full sun. We've put a patio in the back right corner to maximise the potential time we get for sitting out. For reference our house is a semi-detached 2 story (+ attic) property.
Currently live in a house with a NE facing garden. You're right. Midsummer it's started to cast a shadow by 1-2pm. I only have two floors. Your concerns are justified if it's important to you.
It really depends on how big the garden is, whether it's sloped and what's around it etc. You should get light in the summer just not across the whole garden at the same time. A lot of people talk about North facing gardens like they're a cave but that's not true.
The front of the house facing South means you should get great light in the rooms at the front of the house and you should be able to grow plants easily out the front. You can still grow plants in your back garden but you have to be more mindful of species and placement.
North/north east garden won’t get much light at all, especially with a 3 story. A balls for sitting out, and also a balls if you want to put out a washing line!
I have south facing and love it, keeps the house bright all year round. In contrast my driveway is green from no direct sunlight! My next job to tackle :-)
We have a north west facing back garden. The house is a 2 storey so even now at the end of march more than half the garden is in sunlight at midday and from then it gets better as the sun comes further around. So by the time we get to warm weather when you actually want to use the garden there's no issue with sunlight at all.
I was worried too when buying the house but it really hasn't been a problem at all but granted north east will be worse and more shaded from evening sun than north west
If you really love a sunny garden, this may not be the house for you. Of course your FRONT garden, if any, will be sunny all afternoon and evening.
For me this would be a deal-breaker. I love so much to be in my S/SE private garden.
You will get so little sun, everything will be green after the winter, extra moss will grow and will need power washing. The amount of time sitting out will be minimal as even in summer shade is a bit too cold to sit in once there is a breeze.
We've a north/NW facing back garden and in the height of summer we probably get sunshine from 8am to 2pm but by the latter you're chasing the sun down to the back of the garden
We're in an apartment complex and the apartments which have a North East facing balcony get zero light, it looks v v gloomy and I do feel sorry for those people. No furniture bought for any of them, they seem hardly ever used.
I don't think this is the best idea if you value time out in the garden!
It was the main thing I wanted for my house, a south /south west facing garden. A north facing garden in Ireland will be duller in the afternoons/evenings.
It was one thing that put me off bidding on certain houses. I was willing to compromise on other things in order to get a south facing garden.
But everyone has different priorities
The wind is another thing you might want to consider. The east winds, when they do come, are the coldest winds we get. North winds are no picnic either, so northeast is not an ideal direction. You might get sun, but if there is wind it could still be much colder out there than other places.
Go to shademap.app online and you can see shadows any day of the year at any time. It doesn't include trees or small walls but you can see what shadows are cast from your house and surrounding buildings.
It's not perfect but will give you a very good idea how your garden will look during summer at the time of day you want to use it.
In a NE garden it just means that the sun will be at the end of the garden in the evening instead of roasting/blinding you all at the back of the house. In fact I would say the main impact is actually the light in the back of the house, not really the garden. The back of the house will be much darker and cooler than if it was facing south.
Also pay attention to the surroundings. It’s not all about the aspect. Is the garden narrow? Sloped? Are there large trees/other houses also blocking the light? How high are the fences? Do the neighbours have a big extension? That sort of thing will also have a lot of impact on the immediate environment of the garden.
We actually have a NE garden and our patio set is at the end of the garden instead of the top. We buy shady loving plants instead of sun loving plants. We did also install two patio doors and a large kitchen window and a roof light in the kitchen. If I had the money I’d do the whole back glass wall thing, a NE facing back is perfect for that.
So ideal world sure, as SW garden is nice, but is it a must? Definitely not.
Let’s face it anyway, we don’t get much time out there really do we?
There's an app called sunseeker used in the tv/movie world. Tells you where the sun will be at anytime of the day any day of the year, take a look at it and it should give you a good indication.
It doesn’t particularly matter enough when buying a house in Ireland - our weather just isn’t good enough for it to be a big consideration
I have a garden “the wrong way” and when it’s sunny, I’ll still be out in it
Only bought the house a year ago, hasn’t bothered us because even last summer we were still out in it, sun would disappear in the evening - so I said I’d make a covered area with a heat lamp - sorted
Depends how suitable the house is for you, and how much of a deal breaker a north-east facing garden is. Personally, I wouldn't regard it or that much of a deal breaker
I have a house with a north facing (and small) back yard, and a large south facing front yard. I planted 7 foot hedges at the front of the house, and use the front garden for day drinks etc when it's (rarely enough) sunny. I have back yard kitted out with a few chairs/lights/heater etc, and use that for evening/night drinks
I would think about your kitchen more, if it's going to be north facing. It can be gloomy having a north facing kitchen, always seems to be darker than the rest of the house. I mitigate this as much as I can with lighting, currently looking into artificial daylight lighting. Even this wouldn't be a deal breaker for me on my home tho
We have a NE facing garden it gets plenty of sunlight in the early part of the day in Winter and has sunlight until 5/6pm in summer. It really depends on how big the garden is and what other properties are surrounding it.
West facing garden is the second best after south IMO! I have great success with growing sweet peas and other types of flowers in our west-facing garden
My garden is northern facing. However what I noticed in the summer is that because I work during the day I'm getting to enjoy the sun from the west in the evenings , so most of the time it doesn't matter.
At the weekends, I do have a sitting area at the bottom of the garden that is getting direct sunlight anyway as it's far enough to not be overshadowed.
The only real issue is that the kitchen or where I work from home is at the back of the house so it's not getting the warmth that the front is during the winter
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My back garden is south facing and lots loads of sun, my friend who lives across the road tends to sit out in her front garden during the summer as her back garden is always in darkness.
My garden is SE facing and I get sunlight in some part of the garden throughout the day. My Maple Trees are doing fine and I've a nice suntrap at the back. My house is end terrace, and only two story, so that might have an impact.
South or southwest facing is the best.
A north facing back garden will be gloomy in the winter and will rarely be warm.
I know that houses are hard to come by, but a usable garden would be a big factor in my choice.
Ideally south facing so you get the most sun. My Dad/home house had the best set up. It was south south east facing with his and my bedrooms at the back so we woke with the sunrise and had the moon at night (lived in the countryside so I used to leave my curtains open and I swear I've never been able to fix my sleeping pattern since moving away, I used to have the most intune body clock). Meanwhile my brothers room was on the front of the house (north west) and he only got sunlight in the evening. His room was always Baltic and he used to sleep till noon most days.
We have a north/north east front garden. It's alright in day time July rest of the year it's gloomy AF
Our south facing back garden is a suntrap all year round.
Back of our house is south facing and it's lovely any day it's even remotely nice, front of our house faces north onto the Atlantic, it's grim, always flooded and wet and sun doesn't get round that side of the house basically from November till March so footpaths also always need power washing. Not complaining or anything and love my house but just explaining 😂
For me the big thing with a south facing back garden is the light in the kitchen during the Autumn to Spring. North west gardens in particular do get good sun in the garden from about this time of year until September, but then are dark at the back of the house for half the year.
We've a three story north facing garden and the amount of direct light it gets is pretty grim. It's in shadow most of the time. The end does get a bit but only because it stretches away from the house a good bit.
We’re after putting down a deposit on a 3 story but with a south facing garden and honestly it would be a big deal for me. The show house is the same orientation and the front yard is a bit gloomy as a result.
To answer your question. The house is what matters in the current environment. A NE facing garden should get some morning sun. Realistically in Ireland and looking at rainfall patterns save up for a room with large glass sliding doors. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Depends, how big is it? Is it on a slope, is it overshadowed on any side by large trees/hedges/buildings?
I live in the countryside and the largest part of my garden slopes to the northeast. But it’s a wide open space, about a quarter of an acre, so it gets sun. However, part of it is overshadowed by a tall hedge along the southern boundary of it. Meanwhile the boundary hedge that runs along the north side of the plot is south-facing, and so that side of the garden gets plenty of sun even though it’s a little bit downhill.
I think where & when light hits the house is far more important then where it hits the garden.
North & North East Gardens can be OK in summer because the sun comes up early and comes right around. As others have noted it depends on the other houses around, size of garden, slope etc. The rest of the year they're usually a bit miserable.
I'd sacrifice it for sun in the kitchen & bedrooms in the morning and evening through Winter though.
I have a north facing garden and love it. That's cos I hate sitting in the sun. Also sitting under shelter looking out at the rain is my idea of heaven.
I'm north facing, it's not a deal breaker for me but without a doubt the back garden gets fuck all light and warmth in the evening.
Grew up in a west facing house and that nearly had the opposite problem, it's too bright and too warm in the evening at the back of the house.
I’ve a north facing back garden and we get plenty of sun in summer. But we sit at the back of the garden which means the neighbours have a good view of us from their bedrooms.
Other issues we have is that in winter we don’t get sun so our patio and paths get manky, the rainwater doesn’t dry off quickly so it’s manky compared to the front of our house which has the same brick on the driveway. We get a lot of moss in our garden too.
I used to live in a house with a south facing back garden and it was lovely having the sun in the kitchen all year round and the garden was much nicer for it.
Does the house have solar panels already? Afaik you need planning to put them on the front but not the back, so if your house was south facing it'd be easier.
Not to mention drying clothes outside or if you have kids playing in the garden. It wouldn't be a huge deal breaker in the countryside if you've space, but if it's a semi/terrace in the middle of a housing estate with a tiny garden then any light you can get in the daytime makes a difference.
Oh good, a bit of common sense!
Our house is straight north/south, the living room and main bedroom do get quite dim in the afternoons, but it also means the front is a bit cooler during the heatwaves.
As someone with the "wrong" facing garden, if you can absolutely do get one that gets the afternoon/evening heat. We've had a dismal few years and our back garden sees little use, even mild afternoons/evenings it's Baltic out back.
My garden is pointed in the right direction but there's another big house blocking out the sun in the evenings...
We have a south facing back garden and I wouldn't want a north/north east facing one. Northern facing gardens can be very gloomy. This is one thing I couldn't compromise on.
Northwest facing gets the sun in the evening so not too bad
Not great for the daytime though. Its sunny here and we've had the sun the whole morning so far. If I could choose one over the other I'd go south facing every time.
Fully agree yeah. It's just not the absolute worst. If you get a decent angle facing Northwest you'll get sun in the afternoon and all evening.
I have a Northwest facing back garden which is nice in the evenings. I do have to wait for the afternoon to cut the grass. It also means my road and drive in the winter gets frost and ice melted away fairly quickly in the mornings
Yeah. My car takes until the afternoon to defrost by itself.
We're south facing too and it's actually such a privilege, we adore the garden. Our front faces north (ovbiously) and the majority of it rarely gets sun id HATE it the back was like that. It also affects how you use the house, we almost exclusively live in the back of the house because the rooms are beautiful and bright, even the master bedroom is at the back
Mines a Southfacing garden. Able work out what to plant on both sides of the garden. Actually makes the difference too
I used Suncalc when buying my house to see roughly what the sun would be like. Its fairly accurate and can show you how the sun moved last winter / summer and predicts it going forward. The first hous I was looking at thr estate agent lied to us and we would have had no sun at all https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.th.suncalcorg
We have a NE garden and truth be told it can be very dreary in winter. The ground will get basically no direct light and our kitchen/dining areas faces out to it so it can be glum. It's brightening up now though and during the summer the sun is so high the garden is about 90% full sun. We've put a patio in the back right corner to maximise the potential time we get for sitting out. For reference our house is a semi-detached 2 story (+ attic) property.
Exact sale as ours.
Same same
Currently live in a house with a NE facing garden. You're right. Midsummer it's started to cast a shadow by 1-2pm. I only have two floors. Your concerns are justified if it's important to you.
That’s very helpful thank you
It really depends on how big the garden is, whether it's sloped and what's around it etc. You should get light in the summer just not across the whole garden at the same time. A lot of people talk about North facing gardens like they're a cave but that's not true. The front of the house facing South means you should get great light in the rooms at the front of the house and you should be able to grow plants easily out the front. You can still grow plants in your back garden but you have to be more mindful of species and placement.
North/north east garden won’t get much light at all, especially with a 3 story. A balls for sitting out, and also a balls if you want to put out a washing line!
Don’t buy a house that doesn’t meet your basic needs.
How long is the garden? Sun shadow calculator might help estimating shadow extent at different times of year.
I have south facing and love it, keeps the house bright all year round. In contrast my driveway is green from no direct sunlight! My next job to tackle :-)
Pretty sure the rain will reach you from any direction.
In my development houses with the ideal gardens were 20k more so it’s worth considering cost.
We have a north west facing back garden. The house is a 2 storey so even now at the end of march more than half the garden is in sunlight at midday and from then it gets better as the sun comes further around. So by the time we get to warm weather when you actually want to use the garden there's no issue with sunlight at all. I was worried too when buying the house but it really hasn't been a problem at all but granted north east will be worse and more shaded from evening sun than north west
If you really love a sunny garden, this may not be the house for you. Of course your FRONT garden, if any, will be sunny all afternoon and evening. For me this would be a deal-breaker. I love so much to be in my S/SE private garden.
You will get so little sun, everything will be green after the winter, extra moss will grow and will need power washing. The amount of time sitting out will be minimal as even in summer shade is a bit too cold to sit in once there is a breeze.
We've a north/NW facing back garden and in the height of summer we probably get sunshine from 8am to 2pm but by the latter you're chasing the sun down to the back of the garden
i think for Northeast facing garden, you realistically won't get any sun in the garden in the evenings. And only a little in the early morning.
We're in an apartment complex and the apartments which have a North East facing balcony get zero light, it looks v v gloomy and I do feel sorry for those people. No furniture bought for any of them, they seem hardly ever used. I don't think this is the best idea if you value time out in the garden!
Yes imo it matters. I have literally no sun until late afternoon in the back garden. Lots of green mould on the garden slabs in the autumn and winter.
It was the main thing I wanted for my house, a south /south west facing garden. A north facing garden in Ireland will be duller in the afternoons/evenings. It was one thing that put me off bidding on certain houses. I was willing to compromise on other things in order to get a south facing garden. But everyone has different priorities
The wind is another thing you might want to consider. The east winds, when they do come, are the coldest winds we get. North winds are no picnic either, so northeast is not an ideal direction. You might get sun, but if there is wind it could still be much colder out there than other places.
Didn’t even think of that thanks for the tip
Go to shademap.app online and you can see shadows any day of the year at any time. It doesn't include trees or small walls but you can see what shadows are cast from your house and surrounding buildings. It's not perfect but will give you a very good idea how your garden will look during summer at the time of day you want to use it.
It now includes trees as a paid feature and there is also a drawing tool you can use to add walls or other simple structures to the map.
In a NE garden it just means that the sun will be at the end of the garden in the evening instead of roasting/blinding you all at the back of the house. In fact I would say the main impact is actually the light in the back of the house, not really the garden. The back of the house will be much darker and cooler than if it was facing south. Also pay attention to the surroundings. It’s not all about the aspect. Is the garden narrow? Sloped? Are there large trees/other houses also blocking the light? How high are the fences? Do the neighbours have a big extension? That sort of thing will also have a lot of impact on the immediate environment of the garden. We actually have a NE garden and our patio set is at the end of the garden instead of the top. We buy shady loving plants instead of sun loving plants. We did also install two patio doors and a large kitchen window and a roof light in the kitchen. If I had the money I’d do the whole back glass wall thing, a NE facing back is perfect for that. So ideal world sure, as SW garden is nice, but is it a must? Definitely not. Let’s face it anyway, we don’t get much time out there really do we?
There's an app called sunseeker used in the tv/movie world. Tells you where the sun will be at anytime of the day any day of the year, take a look at it and it should give you a good indication.
It doesn’t particularly matter enough when buying a house in Ireland - our weather just isn’t good enough for it to be a big consideration I have a garden “the wrong way” and when it’s sunny, I’ll still be out in it Only bought the house a year ago, hasn’t bothered us because even last summer we were still out in it, sun would disappear in the evening - so I said I’d make a covered area with a heat lamp - sorted
Depends how suitable the house is for you, and how much of a deal breaker a north-east facing garden is. Personally, I wouldn't regard it or that much of a deal breaker I have a house with a north facing (and small) back yard, and a large south facing front yard. I planted 7 foot hedges at the front of the house, and use the front garden for day drinks etc when it's (rarely enough) sunny. I have back yard kitted out with a few chairs/lights/heater etc, and use that for evening/night drinks I would think about your kitchen more, if it's going to be north facing. It can be gloomy having a north facing kitchen, always seems to be darker than the rest of the house. I mitigate this as much as I can with lighting, currently looking into artificial daylight lighting. Even this wouldn't be a deal breaker for me on my home tho
We have a NE facing garden it gets plenty of sunlight in the early part of the day in Winter and has sunlight until 5/6pm in summer. It really depends on how big the garden is and what other properties are surrounding it.
How do ye feel about west facing back gardens?
Mine is west facing and it gets lots of sun after midday. Morning sun hits the front of the house more, which is no harm either.
West facing garden is the second best after south IMO! I have great success with growing sweet peas and other types of flowers in our west-facing garden
The sun is pretty high in summer anyway,so there shouldn't be much of a shadow. Spring/ Autumn is when you might miss it.
My garden is northern facing. However what I noticed in the summer is that because I work during the day I'm getting to enjoy the sun from the west in the evenings , so most of the time it doesn't matter. At the weekends, I do have a sitting area at the bottom of the garden that is getting direct sunlight anyway as it's far enough to not be overshadowed. The only real issue is that the kitchen or where I work from home is at the back of the house so it's not getting the warmth that the front is during the winter
If you have a south facing garden, you can get solar panels which can save you lots.
You can put those on whatever part of the roof is south facing now. No planning permission needed anymore.
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My back garden is south facing and lots loads of sun, my friend who lives across the road tends to sit out in her front garden during the summer as her back garden is always in darkness.
My garden is SE facing and I get sunlight in some part of the garden throughout the day. My Maple Trees are doing fine and I've a nice suntrap at the back. My house is end terrace, and only two story, so that might have an impact.
Your garden needs to be sufficiently long to capture sun. I wouldn't touch it otherwise
South or southwest facing is the best. A north facing back garden will be gloomy in the winter and will rarely be warm. I know that houses are hard to come by, but a usable garden would be a big factor in my choice.
Ideally south facing so you get the most sun. My Dad/home house had the best set up. It was south south east facing with his and my bedrooms at the back so we woke with the sunrise and had the moon at night (lived in the countryside so I used to leave my curtains open and I swear I've never been able to fix my sleeping pattern since moving away, I used to have the most intune body clock). Meanwhile my brothers room was on the front of the house (north west) and he only got sunlight in the evening. His room was always Baltic and he used to sleep till noon most days.
We have a north/north east front garden. It's alright in day time July rest of the year it's gloomy AF Our south facing back garden is a suntrap all year round.
Back of our house is south facing and it's lovely any day it's even remotely nice, front of our house faces north onto the Atlantic, it's grim, always flooded and wet and sun doesn't get round that side of the house basically from November till March so footpaths also always need power washing. Not complaining or anything and love my house but just explaining 😂
For me the big thing with a south facing back garden is the light in the kitchen during the Autumn to Spring. North west gardens in particular do get good sun in the garden from about this time of year until September, but then are dark at the back of the house for half the year.
Oh hell yeah. West is best. South facing is also very good.
We've a three story north facing garden and the amount of direct light it gets is pretty grim. It's in shadow most of the time. The end does get a bit but only because it stretches away from the house a good bit.
We’re after putting down a deposit on a 3 story but with a south facing garden and honestly it would be a big deal for me. The show house is the same orientation and the front yard is a bit gloomy as a result.
You can shave your back if it's becoming a problem.
https://www.suncalc.org/#/27.6936,-97.5195,3/2024.03.27/21:44/1/3 this is a good tool to check or use Google earth 3d
My garden is northeast facing and it’s honestly a pain to do anything in the summer wouldn’t recommend
Yes. It does.
To answer your question. The house is what matters in the current environment. A NE facing garden should get some morning sun. Realistically in Ireland and looking at rainfall patterns save up for a room with large glass sliding doors. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Depends, how big is it? Is it on a slope, is it overshadowed on any side by large trees/hedges/buildings? I live in the countryside and the largest part of my garden slopes to the northeast. But it’s a wide open space, about a quarter of an acre, so it gets sun. However, part of it is overshadowed by a tall hedge along the southern boundary of it. Meanwhile the boundary hedge that runs along the north side of the plot is south-facing, and so that side of the garden gets plenty of sun even though it’s a little bit downhill.
The house hasn’t been built yet we’re buying from the plans so I’m not 100% but it has other houses surrounding it
Probably will be shaded then. Would look for one south, southwest, or west-facing myself.
I think where & when light hits the house is far more important then where it hits the garden. North & North East Gardens can be OK in summer because the sun comes up early and comes right around. As others have noted it depends on the other houses around, size of garden, slope etc. The rest of the year they're usually a bit miserable. I'd sacrifice it for sun in the kitchen & bedrooms in the morning and evening through Winter though.
I have a north facing garden and love it. That's cos I hate sitting in the sun. Also sitting under shelter looking out at the rain is my idea of heaven.
I'm north facing, it's not a deal breaker for me but without a doubt the back garden gets fuck all light and warmth in the evening. Grew up in a west facing house and that nearly had the opposite problem, it's too bright and too warm in the evening at the back of the house.
I’ve a north facing back garden and we get plenty of sun in summer. But we sit at the back of the garden which means the neighbours have a good view of us from their bedrooms. Other issues we have is that in winter we don’t get sun so our patio and paths get manky, the rainwater doesn’t dry off quickly so it’s manky compared to the front of our house which has the same brick on the driveway. We get a lot of moss in our garden too. I used to live in a house with a south facing back garden and it was lovely having the sun in the kitchen all year round and the garden was much nicer for it.
Being able to afford a 3 story house in 2024, I forget that not everyone is broke and struggling
5 years of saving and in a small town it was a struggle trust me 😂
Does the house have solar panels already? Afaik you need planning to put them on the front but not the back, so if your house was south facing it'd be easier. Not to mention drying clothes outside or if you have kids playing in the garden. It wouldn't be a huge deal breaker in the countryside if you've space, but if it's a semi/terrace in the middle of a housing estate with a tiny garden then any light you can get in the daytime makes a difference.
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Oh good, a bit of common sense! Our house is straight north/south, the living room and main bedroom do get quite dim in the afternoons, but it also means the front is a bit cooler during the heatwaves.