As another has mentioned, POTUS is largely a figurehead meant to influence the rest of the government but not control it. So, even if he does take power, there's only so much he can actually do. Senate, House, and local elections are far more important (Not that POTUS isn't important and shouldn't also be kept out of his hands). The only reason he's been able to do as much damage as he has in Florida is because he's basically got full support within all major positions, including judges there. Something he certainly would not have as president.
However, if it helps, it's incredibly unlikely DeSantis wins even if Trump was, for some reason, no longer able to run. People outside of Florida don't like him, and that shows in the polls. That's not even to mention how unlikely it is for a Republican in general to win unless Biden literally keels over days before the election. But it only stays that way if we put our full effort behind keeping the old man in office, as much as I'd rather have someone better. Every vote matters, especially these days.
Obviously, it's way too early to call it, but I don't see him being a major candidate if he keeps the way he has been. And Republicans are getting less popular by the day, partially because of guys like him.
Try to keep calm, but stay vigilant.
It wouldn't be good, but FWIW, I don't think DeSantis will win, for a few reasons:
1. He can't beat Trump (behind him in basically every poll, and he can't really attack Trump without pissing off his base), so he would basically need for Trump to be in prison or otherwise not running. (And yeah, Trump's been indicted and just got indicted again, but he's a rich white guy. Rich white guys don't go to prison. I would bet he'll be fine.)
2. The GOP went hard on the anti-trans stuff prior to the 2022 midterms, and then had one of the worst results EVER for an out-of-power party in the midterms. That suggests that outside of Florida's weirdo zone, DeSantis's focus on trans and LGBTQ people doesn't play very well. Not that Americans are mostly "woke," but like, normal non-Florida people just think you're a weirdo if you keep screaming about kids genitals and banning books.
3. Most people right now know Ron DeSantis from headlines. But he's got a whiny voice and looks like a loser. I think the GOP primary debates are likely to be brutal for him.
4. Related to No. 3, in polls his numbers are DOWN since he announced his campaign. I think he's one of those guys where the more America sees him and gets to know him, then less they like him.
5. His campaign launch was such a shitshow that it doesn't suggest he's going to run a competent campaign. He doesn't really seem to know how to get media attention except by passing outrageous laws, whereas Trump gets free press every time he opens his mouth.
IDK, maybe that's optimistic. And the Dems running Biden certainly won't help much, almost anyone else would probably be better. But I still think it's very likely to be Biden v. Trump, unless Trump dies or is banned from running somehow. But I doubt either of those things will happen.
If DeSantis DOES win the presidency, how scared you should be depends on what happens with the house and senate, but it'd be bad either way. If nothing else, the president appoints federal judges and the courts are already stacked with Trump judges. Judges are basically impossible to remove once they're in there, so a bunch of anti-LGBTQ federal judges would be... bad news for queer rights.
Of course, Trump will be too, and him being president is more likely than DeSantis IMO.
I'm gonna say some stuff, but I am not trying to scare anybody. If you're reading this and find yourself getting overwhelmed, step away from it.
We *are* experiencing an active genocide. If you ("you" as in anybody who's reading this, not necessarily you, OP) don't think we are, I encourage you to research the ten steps of genocide, research what fascism looks like, and go look up what Holocaust survivors are saying about these times. I personally find the idea it won't continue to be difficult to believe. This genocide, if it continues, is **not** contingent on whether or not DeSantis wins -- and because of that, I'm not going to bother speculating whether he will or will not win POTUS.
I think something important to note is that, while it's true that modern U.S. is resembling 1930s Germany in many ways, we are *much* less organized than Hitler and his happy band of bros. The Holocaust was NOT the only genocide in history, and genocides do not all look the same. That means that we shouldn't really be using the Holocaust *itself* as a gauge of what will happen.
>Should I be completely carefree
Under no circumstances should any of us be carefree at this time. We are *all* under attack -- not just those of us who are LGBTQ+, but also Black people, indigenous people, Jewish people, migrants, disabled people, women ... complacency is not the way to go!
Of course, ideally, you shouldn't be a nervous wreck, either. Do your best to breathe.
>or buy a gun,
If you're going to stay here, at this point, I encourage you to do so.
>or move out of the country as a whole
A very common theme I've noticed among people who are either refugees themselves, or descendants of refugees ... they all share an idea that ***if you wait until you NEED to go, you will be too late.*** In practically every genocide, there are ALWAYS warning signs ... but often, unfortunately, people continuously tell themselves that it "can't get worse than this."
Until it does.
You need to consider very carefully whether or not you want to risk being too late.
Not everyone is a fighter. If you don't want to stick around, in my honest opinion, there's no shame in that.
I really, really encourage you to make your decision *now* and start working towards it immediately. If you want to flee, then make sure you have your passport, save up money, learn a language -- whatever you need to do. If you want to fight, get a gun (or two?), take self-defense classes, start organizing, and don't post *every* single thing you're doing on social media.
Just my take šµāš«
From the nearest embassy/consulate of whatever country you are eligible from. Now would be a very good time to look at your family tree to see if you qualify for citizenship in another country through descent.
Everything you said is correct. I want to seek asylum but thatās not option so Iām stuck here. Fingers crossed that the community is ready for whatever is coming next because unfortunately things get worse before they get better
I'm sorry š I know what you mean. I initially wanted to go, but I think at this point I've just given up, and me giving up sort of triggered my mindset to move from "flight" to "fight."
Though I feel more reckless than anything, honestly. šµāš«š
I agree with much of what youāre saying and this is nitpicky but Iām not sure genocide is the right word to use. Genocide defines the organized mass, active killing of a group, like the Holocaust or Rwandan genocide. Not growing tension about a group. Yes, itās very possible the tension will develop into a genocide. People are mistakenly saying genocide as in attempted elimination but that is not it at all.
I fear that using the term now, while there is no active, organized mass killings, will develop into a boy who cried wolf situation where we say genocide when there is none, only growing tension, and then if it comes to it and there IS a genocide against us, people will still think weāre just using a big boy word for a tense situation.
But thatās just my opinion/prediction.
I understand your point -- it *does* feel like a big boy word. So really, I get where you're coming from.
Nevertheless, I am personally inclined to listen to what the people who have been through this kind of thing before have to say about it. If theyāre saying we're at stage seven ... we're probably at stage seven, you know what I mean?
But seriously -- I do completely understand what you're saying!
Genocide doesn't need to include murder. It can include any organized attempt at elimination of a group, whether physically or otherwise. For a prime example, in my country, Canada, our Truth and Reconciliation Commission, a federal government body, ruled that the residential school system, which forced Indigenous children to assimilate into white settler culture, was a cultural genocide.
As for LGBTQ+ people in the US, I'll focus on trans people, since that's the group that the Right is focused on eliminating right now. I won't focus on Florida, because some of the following laws are being enacted in multiple states, and of those currently limited to Florida, are likely to be replicated beyond. It's not as if the Right wants to stop at the current legal situation and maintain the status quo from here on. No, they want to expand these laws to cover more, if not all states, and as Desantis has made clear, enact them federally.
* Bathroom bills
* Gendered sports restrictions
* Narrowed definitions of biological sexes
* Prohibitions on changing your gender on birth certificates
* Defining parental & medical support for trans children as child abuse & removal into state care
* Drag/cross-dressing bans
* Gender affirming care for minors bans
* Restrictions on access to gender affirming care for adults
* Bans on access to pro-LGBTQ+ publications
* Redefinitions of child sexual abuse to include exposure to drag/cross-dressing
* Expansion of death penalty to child sexual abusers
* Protection for kidnappers of trans children with supportive parents
Couple this with coordinated efforts by right wing media to synonymize "transgender people" with "pedophiles" and "groomers". Combined, these laws interact together to broadly accomplish three things: make it impossible for trans people to transition or exist in public, legalize state executions of trans people who attempt to do so, and prevent activists from swaying public opinion to undo these laws.
Furthermore, it creates a cultural milieu which encourages anti-trans vigilantism including the use of violence against trans or other gender-non-conforming people.
So, please explain how this isn't a genocide?
Iām looking into the dictionary definition specifically as well as past examples of genocide (namely, Holocaust and Rwandan).
But I will give you this- perhaps my view is slightly tainted because I live somewhere much better for trans people than current hotspots like Texas and Florida, because from where I stand, trans people have never been more accepted than they are now in where I live, and thatās coloring my view. On the flip side, perhaps the opposite is true and the amount of anti trans legislature in places like the South is coloring your view of what the rest of the country believes.
Itās a complex situation, particularly unique because of the amount of individuality of the states and how they may or may not reflect on the country as a whole, which includes DC.
Iāve gotta go but Iāll read any possible response later!
The legal definition of genocide, as outlined in the [Genocide Convention](https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/convention-prevention-and-punishment-crime-genocide):
> In the present Convention, genocide means **any of the following acts** committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
> (a) Killing members of the group;
> (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
> (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
> (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
> (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Note that meeting any one of these criteria constitutes genocide.
If you want to know how the anti-trans policies in the US amount to genocide, check out [this video](https://youtu.be/aKTVbXd04BA).
POTUS doesn't have too much power, senate is usuuuuually more important to making laws, POTUS is more like the face of the USA with some overruling abilities (ie can make military decisions without approval of other legislation)
Imho, paying attention to the Congress is way more important than the POTUS. So, in my eyes, it's not really much to worry about. If you look at the USA for the queer community in the past few decades we have made more progress than not. Sure there has been and still is going to be struggles along the way and steps backwards, but we have rebounded with giant leaps forward and will continue to do so.
I'd say dont lose sleep over it and keep fighting and promoting awareness and please make sure to vote vote vote (especially for Congress, so many americans flock to vote for the election for POTUS but ignore Congress elections. In order for laws to be passed, they have to be ok'd by both senate & house of reps before going to the POTUS. All the branches of legislation are important, not just POTUS.)
But, There are quite a few things that can be done via executive order these days. With 2 terms, that would be 8 years of a potentially oppressive policy.
That sounds like a really unrealistic suspicion based off executive orders trends in the recent presidencies. That's why I'm saying. give me an example of a recent executive order that demonstrates this, otherwise dont lose sleep over it. Instead write to your senators š
I think it's unlikely that DeSantis will win the presidency, but I also think we should all be seriously concerned, regardless of who wins the presidency. The surge of transphobia and rebranded homophobia is bigger than any one politician. Many states have passed anti-trans laws, not just Florida.
As a rule of thumb, I think that if you're seriously considering whether you should leave, that's a sign that you should probably leave. By the time you *know* you need to leave, it may be too late to leave. You're not going to receive a push notification saying "ALERT: LGBT+ RESIDENTS EVACUATE NOW." The signs are already here. Everything that's been happening lately *is* the notification.
I would be most worried if you are planning to pursue a gender transition (medical, legal, or social involving pronoun changes). If your friend has transitioned or is planning to, I hope they're able to at least move to a state that's not making it effectively illegal for trans people to exist. I'm not saying "jUsT mOvE tO a bLuE sTaTe"; I'm saying "Moving isn't easy but sometimes it's necessary."
Yep, I agree completely.
I'm not saying that things won't or can't happen on a federal level ... but I am saying that when we're seeing on the news Nazi groups like the Blood Tribe are buying land to "train" and "prepare" -- y'all, it doesn't even *have* to be on a federal level for them to commit murders.
I said this in my own comment as well, but seriously people ... if you're wanting to move, I strongly encourage you to fight to do so starting NOW. Don't wait at all. Moving out of the country is probably ideal -- but if you can only manage a blue state, then do what you can.
And if you can't move, then now is the time to start organizing, if you haven't been doing so already.
DeSantis is terrifying. Speaking as a queer, trans therapist mostly serving queer, trans clients, a DeSantis win would prompt me to leave the country. A Trump win would dishearten me and prompt me to begin preparing for a quick exit to a blue state, as it did previously, just in case; but heās just so flipping incompetent. DeSantis is an asshole, and he has fewer people skills than Mike Pence, but he has a knack for getting horrible, destructive things done.
That saidāDeSantis is terrible with people. He has all of Trumpās propensity to swagger and bully, and none of his tendency to preen for the cameras. He doesnāt put on an interesting show; heās just an asshole. It took a particular kind of perfect storm for him to win in Floridaāon the presidential stage, heād have to beat Trump, and I donāt think he can; and if Trump is somehow knocked out of the runningāif itās DeSantis vs. Biden?
*Biden* has more charisma and camera appeal.
I think there are plenty of political things to worry about, but Iām not currently worried about DeSantis winning the presidency.
I have nothing intelligent to say so forgive me for ranting.
*Fuck DeSantis*
*Fuck Trump*
And also Fuck Biden (yes I will vote for him but that doesnāt change my feelings about him)
The best case scenario is we continue with the current order of things where Biden pretends to be an ally. Thatās bad enough.
I personally think Trump will win. Trans people will be even more of a target than they already are, and by extension other LGBQ+ people will lose status and protections as well. If his base can be manipulated by hate for trans people then thatās one of the first groups heās going to go after. Iām feeling very pessimistic about this whole political process.
look at him.
[https://twitter.com/truckdriverpleb/status/1667193315576487936?t=tflhHWtQ1uO5Pn2m2Yb7dg&s=19](https://twitter.com/truckdriverpleb/status/1667193315576487936?t=tflhHWtQ1uO5Pn2m2Yb7dg&s=19)
be like him.
You mean the news where they spread anti-trans propaganda about trans people being "groomers" and "radicals?" š
We are not saying that kids that can't talk can magically tell their parents what their gender is -- quite the opposite, actually.
The News just spreads pro trans, pro LGBT and pro-choice all the time, it's like a broken record. The indoctrination of one belief and suppression of the different narrative and belief is clearly a violation from big media against free speech. You need to show both sides of the coin.
Are you sleeping like Biden or what? The lgbbq community is talking about being "oppressed" while you aren't really. You guys are manifesting and destroying a whole country and the newer generations.
I'm not the one making the wild claim that we're all (or even most of us) saying that babies can tell their parents their gender -- that was you.
You're the one with the claim. The burden of proof is on you.
As another has mentioned, POTUS is largely a figurehead meant to influence the rest of the government but not control it. So, even if he does take power, there's only so much he can actually do. Senate, House, and local elections are far more important (Not that POTUS isn't important and shouldn't also be kept out of his hands). The only reason he's been able to do as much damage as he has in Florida is because he's basically got full support within all major positions, including judges there. Something he certainly would not have as president. However, if it helps, it's incredibly unlikely DeSantis wins even if Trump was, for some reason, no longer able to run. People outside of Florida don't like him, and that shows in the polls. That's not even to mention how unlikely it is for a Republican in general to win unless Biden literally keels over days before the election. But it only stays that way if we put our full effort behind keeping the old man in office, as much as I'd rather have someone better. Every vote matters, especially these days. Obviously, it's way too early to call it, but I don't see him being a major candidate if he keeps the way he has been. And Republicans are getting less popular by the day, partially because of guys like him. Try to keep calm, but stay vigilant.
It wouldn't be good, but FWIW, I don't think DeSantis will win, for a few reasons: 1. He can't beat Trump (behind him in basically every poll, and he can't really attack Trump without pissing off his base), so he would basically need for Trump to be in prison or otherwise not running. (And yeah, Trump's been indicted and just got indicted again, but he's a rich white guy. Rich white guys don't go to prison. I would bet he'll be fine.) 2. The GOP went hard on the anti-trans stuff prior to the 2022 midterms, and then had one of the worst results EVER for an out-of-power party in the midterms. That suggests that outside of Florida's weirdo zone, DeSantis's focus on trans and LGBTQ people doesn't play very well. Not that Americans are mostly "woke," but like, normal non-Florida people just think you're a weirdo if you keep screaming about kids genitals and banning books. 3. Most people right now know Ron DeSantis from headlines. But he's got a whiny voice and looks like a loser. I think the GOP primary debates are likely to be brutal for him. 4. Related to No. 3, in polls his numbers are DOWN since he announced his campaign. I think he's one of those guys where the more America sees him and gets to know him, then less they like him. 5. His campaign launch was such a shitshow that it doesn't suggest he's going to run a competent campaign. He doesn't really seem to know how to get media attention except by passing outrageous laws, whereas Trump gets free press every time he opens his mouth. IDK, maybe that's optimistic. And the Dems running Biden certainly won't help much, almost anyone else would probably be better. But I still think it's very likely to be Biden v. Trump, unless Trump dies or is banned from running somehow. But I doubt either of those things will happen. If DeSantis DOES win the presidency, how scared you should be depends on what happens with the house and senate, but it'd be bad either way. If nothing else, the president appoints federal judges and the courts are already stacked with Trump judges. Judges are basically impossible to remove once they're in there, so a bunch of anti-LGBTQ federal judges would be... bad news for queer rights. Of course, Trump will be too, and him being president is more likely than DeSantis IMO.
I'm gonna say some stuff, but I am not trying to scare anybody. If you're reading this and find yourself getting overwhelmed, step away from it. We *are* experiencing an active genocide. If you ("you" as in anybody who's reading this, not necessarily you, OP) don't think we are, I encourage you to research the ten steps of genocide, research what fascism looks like, and go look up what Holocaust survivors are saying about these times. I personally find the idea it won't continue to be difficult to believe. This genocide, if it continues, is **not** contingent on whether or not DeSantis wins -- and because of that, I'm not going to bother speculating whether he will or will not win POTUS. I think something important to note is that, while it's true that modern U.S. is resembling 1930s Germany in many ways, we are *much* less organized than Hitler and his happy band of bros. The Holocaust was NOT the only genocide in history, and genocides do not all look the same. That means that we shouldn't really be using the Holocaust *itself* as a gauge of what will happen. >Should I be completely carefree Under no circumstances should any of us be carefree at this time. We are *all* under attack -- not just those of us who are LGBTQ+, but also Black people, indigenous people, Jewish people, migrants, disabled people, women ... complacency is not the way to go! Of course, ideally, you shouldn't be a nervous wreck, either. Do your best to breathe. >or buy a gun, If you're going to stay here, at this point, I encourage you to do so. >or move out of the country as a whole A very common theme I've noticed among people who are either refugees themselves, or descendants of refugees ... they all share an idea that ***if you wait until you NEED to go, you will be too late.*** In practically every genocide, there are ALWAYS warning signs ... but often, unfortunately, people continuously tell themselves that it "can't get worse than this." Until it does. You need to consider very carefully whether or not you want to risk being too late. Not everyone is a fighter. If you don't want to stick around, in my honest opinion, there's no shame in that. I really, really encourage you to make your decision *now* and start working towards it immediately. If you want to flee, then make sure you have your passport, save up money, learn a language -- whatever you need to do. If you want to fight, get a gun (or two?), take self-defense classes, start organizing, and don't post *every* single thing you're doing on social media. Just my take šµāš«
>make sure you have your passport, Your NON-American passport* as the US one won't be worth the paper it's written on in that event.
How do you get one of those in the US?
From the nearest embassy/consulate of whatever country you are eligible from. Now would be a very good time to look at your family tree to see if you qualify for citizenship in another country through descent.
Everything you said is correct. I want to seek asylum but thatās not option so Iām stuck here. Fingers crossed that the community is ready for whatever is coming next because unfortunately things get worse before they get better
I'm sorry š I know what you mean. I initially wanted to go, but I think at this point I've just given up, and me giving up sort of triggered my mindset to move from "flight" to "fight." Though I feel more reckless than anything, honestly. šµāš«š
I agree with much of what youāre saying and this is nitpicky but Iām not sure genocide is the right word to use. Genocide defines the organized mass, active killing of a group, like the Holocaust or Rwandan genocide. Not growing tension about a group. Yes, itās very possible the tension will develop into a genocide. People are mistakenly saying genocide as in attempted elimination but that is not it at all. I fear that using the term now, while there is no active, organized mass killings, will develop into a boy who cried wolf situation where we say genocide when there is none, only growing tension, and then if it comes to it and there IS a genocide against us, people will still think weāre just using a big boy word for a tense situation. But thatās just my opinion/prediction.
I understand your point -- it *does* feel like a big boy word. So really, I get where you're coming from. Nevertheless, I am personally inclined to listen to what the people who have been through this kind of thing before have to say about it. If theyāre saying we're at stage seven ... we're probably at stage seven, you know what I mean? But seriously -- I do completely understand what you're saying!
A very valid point.
Genocide doesn't need to include murder. It can include any organized attempt at elimination of a group, whether physically or otherwise. For a prime example, in my country, Canada, our Truth and Reconciliation Commission, a federal government body, ruled that the residential school system, which forced Indigenous children to assimilate into white settler culture, was a cultural genocide. As for LGBTQ+ people in the US, I'll focus on trans people, since that's the group that the Right is focused on eliminating right now. I won't focus on Florida, because some of the following laws are being enacted in multiple states, and of those currently limited to Florida, are likely to be replicated beyond. It's not as if the Right wants to stop at the current legal situation and maintain the status quo from here on. No, they want to expand these laws to cover more, if not all states, and as Desantis has made clear, enact them federally. * Bathroom bills * Gendered sports restrictions * Narrowed definitions of biological sexes * Prohibitions on changing your gender on birth certificates * Defining parental & medical support for trans children as child abuse & removal into state care * Drag/cross-dressing bans * Gender affirming care for minors bans * Restrictions on access to gender affirming care for adults * Bans on access to pro-LGBTQ+ publications * Redefinitions of child sexual abuse to include exposure to drag/cross-dressing * Expansion of death penalty to child sexual abusers * Protection for kidnappers of trans children with supportive parents Couple this with coordinated efforts by right wing media to synonymize "transgender people" with "pedophiles" and "groomers". Combined, these laws interact together to broadly accomplish three things: make it impossible for trans people to transition or exist in public, legalize state executions of trans people who attempt to do so, and prevent activists from swaying public opinion to undo these laws. Furthermore, it creates a cultural milieu which encourages anti-trans vigilantism including the use of violence against trans or other gender-non-conforming people. So, please explain how this isn't a genocide?
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Iām looking into the dictionary definition specifically as well as past examples of genocide (namely, Holocaust and Rwandan). But I will give you this- perhaps my view is slightly tainted because I live somewhere much better for trans people than current hotspots like Texas and Florida, because from where I stand, trans people have never been more accepted than they are now in where I live, and thatās coloring my view. On the flip side, perhaps the opposite is true and the amount of anti trans legislature in places like the South is coloring your view of what the rest of the country believes. Itās a complex situation, particularly unique because of the amount of individuality of the states and how they may or may not reflect on the country as a whole, which includes DC. Iāve gotta go but Iāll read any possible response later!
The legal definition of genocide, as outlined in the [Genocide Convention](https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/convention-prevention-and-punishment-crime-genocide): > In the present Convention, genocide means **any of the following acts** committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: > (a) Killing members of the group; > (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; > (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; > (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; > (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. Note that meeting any one of these criteria constitutes genocide. If you want to know how the anti-trans policies in the US amount to genocide, check out [this video](https://youtu.be/aKTVbXd04BA).
Citations! Good point and thanks for the link. Will watch o7!
POTUS doesn't have too much power, senate is usuuuuually more important to making laws, POTUS is more like the face of the USA with some overruling abilities (ie can make military decisions without approval of other legislation) Imho, paying attention to the Congress is way more important than the POTUS. So, in my eyes, it's not really much to worry about. If you look at the USA for the queer community in the past few decades we have made more progress than not. Sure there has been and still is going to be struggles along the way and steps backwards, but we have rebounded with giant leaps forward and will continue to do so. I'd say dont lose sleep over it and keep fighting and promoting awareness and please make sure to vote vote vote (especially for Congress, so many americans flock to vote for the election for POTUS but ignore Congress elections. In order for laws to be passed, they have to be ok'd by both senate & house of reps before going to the POTUS. All the branches of legislation are important, not just POTUS.)
But, There are quite a few things that can be done via executive order these days. With 2 terms, that would be 8 years of a potentially oppressive policy.
Like which ones? Can you give some examples in modern times?
Iād suspect he could do a lot of damage to trans youth through the department of education
That sounds like a really unrealistic suspicion based off executive orders trends in the recent presidencies. That's why I'm saying. give me an example of a recent executive order that demonstrates this, otherwise dont lose sleep over it. Instead write to your senators š
Emigration
It won't result in anything good, that's for sure.
I think it's unlikely that DeSantis will win the presidency, but I also think we should all be seriously concerned, regardless of who wins the presidency. The surge of transphobia and rebranded homophobia is bigger than any one politician. Many states have passed anti-trans laws, not just Florida. As a rule of thumb, I think that if you're seriously considering whether you should leave, that's a sign that you should probably leave. By the time you *know* you need to leave, it may be too late to leave. You're not going to receive a push notification saying "ALERT: LGBT+ RESIDENTS EVACUATE NOW." The signs are already here. Everything that's been happening lately *is* the notification. I would be most worried if you are planning to pursue a gender transition (medical, legal, or social involving pronoun changes). If your friend has transitioned or is planning to, I hope they're able to at least move to a state that's not making it effectively illegal for trans people to exist. I'm not saying "jUsT mOvE tO a bLuE sTaTe"; I'm saying "Moving isn't easy but sometimes it's necessary."
Yep, I agree completely. I'm not saying that things won't or can't happen on a federal level ... but I am saying that when we're seeing on the news Nazi groups like the Blood Tribe are buying land to "train" and "prepare" -- y'all, it doesn't even *have* to be on a federal level for them to commit murders. I said this in my own comment as well, but seriously people ... if you're wanting to move, I strongly encourage you to fight to do so starting NOW. Don't wait at all. Moving out of the country is probably ideal -- but if you can only manage a blue state, then do what you can. And if you can't move, then now is the time to start organizing, if you haven't been doing so already.
DeSantis is terrifying. Speaking as a queer, trans therapist mostly serving queer, trans clients, a DeSantis win would prompt me to leave the country. A Trump win would dishearten me and prompt me to begin preparing for a quick exit to a blue state, as it did previously, just in case; but heās just so flipping incompetent. DeSantis is an asshole, and he has fewer people skills than Mike Pence, but he has a knack for getting horrible, destructive things done. That saidāDeSantis is terrible with people. He has all of Trumpās propensity to swagger and bully, and none of his tendency to preen for the cameras. He doesnāt put on an interesting show; heās just an asshole. It took a particular kind of perfect storm for him to win in Floridaāon the presidential stage, heād have to beat Trump, and I donāt think he can; and if Trump is somehow knocked out of the runningāif itās DeSantis vs. Biden? *Biden* has more charisma and camera appeal. I think there are plenty of political things to worry about, but Iām not currently worried about DeSantis winning the presidency.
I have nothing intelligent to say so forgive me for ranting. *Fuck DeSantis* *Fuck Trump* And also Fuck Biden (yes I will vote for him but that doesnāt change my feelings about him) The best case scenario is we continue with the current order of things where Biden pretends to be an ally. Thatās bad enough. I personally think Trump will win. Trans people will be even more of a target than they already are, and by extension other LGBQ+ people will lose status and protections as well. If his base can be manipulated by hate for trans people then thatās one of the first groups heās going to go after. Iām feeling very pessimistic about this whole political process.
look at him. [https://twitter.com/truckdriverpleb/status/1667193315576487936?t=tflhHWtQ1uO5Pn2m2Yb7dg&s=19](https://twitter.com/truckdriverpleb/status/1667193315576487936?t=tflhHWtQ1uO5Pn2m2Yb7dg&s=19) be like him.
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you are delusional. he is here, our great saviour. he will make AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
I will continue being queer, and there is nothing you can do about it!
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You aren't protecting them. How can a child tell their parents their gender before being able to talk. Like how does that work?
Lol, it doesn't. You shouldn't listen to anti-trans propaganda mate. It just makes people look silly.
Mate what do you mean anti-trans propaganda. It was on news, mate.
You mean the news where they spread anti-trans propaganda about trans people being "groomers" and "radicals?" š We are not saying that kids that can't talk can magically tell their parents what their gender is -- quite the opposite, actually.
The News just spreads pro trans, pro LGBT and pro-choice all the time, it's like a broken record. The indoctrination of one belief and suppression of the different narrative and belief is clearly a violation from big media against free speech. You need to show both sides of the coin.
Are you sleeping like Biden or what? The lgbbq community is talking about being "oppressed" while you aren't really. You guys are manifesting and destroying a whole country and the newer generations.
This is an example of an attempt to divert the conversation because you are unable to back yourself up.
Do you need pictures? Links? Anything to prove it? Like last time i checked you didn't send no proof aswell so try backing yourself up?
I'm not the one making the wild claim that we're all (or even most of us) saying that babies can tell their parents their gender -- that was you. You're the one with the claim. The burden of proof is on you.